this deck, while really great, really points out that maze's end needs its own animation on the win/kill. kinda like getting 10 poison counters, has a unique animation, cause this just looks like the oppont conceding and not you winning in some way.
@MTGGoldfish11 ай бұрын
Seriously, it's such a cool kill, it deserves an animation.
@Samst0n11 ай бұрын
There are a lot of really cool and unique cards that should have animation but I think the focus on those animations goes specifically to cards in standard sets. If it’s printed direct to explorer or historic they don’t care.
@Gattsu6511 ай бұрын
@@Samst0nUnfortunately wotc is under the thumb of papa hasbro and hasbro is gonna whip wotc/mtg into the dirt until they stop making money 😭 and standard is one of their big money makers... at least it used to be.
@servantofcygnus11 ай бұрын
@@Gattsu65 corporate trying to whip the game into money-making shape is why animations exist at all; otherwise they'd be putting that budget towards adding new cards
@davidhower709511 ай бұрын
If nothing else, all “win the game” cards and all “lose the game” cards should share a generic animation. Doesn’t even have to be on-theme. Just… something.
@fiskertonfero10611 ай бұрын
if you use one Hanweir Battlements you can give your titan haste with spelunking out to pull 3 other gates
@josecod7711 ай бұрын
I was just going to comment that, I did the exact same thing in my gates deck and it's pretty sweet
@MTGGoldfish11 ай бұрын
Ohh, that could be a good one-of. I like it.
@demarvinsroom11 ай бұрын
If this is spelunky then why isn’t there an Olmec fight?
@williamhayduk686511 ай бұрын
Or at least one angry shopkeeper
@trickster2064411 ай бұрын
Or an eggplant
@pretzschy11 ай бұрын
I need turkeys dammit
@cuddlequeen322511 ай бұрын
Spelunking*
@stupidstutesman244411 ай бұрын
@@cuddlequeen3225he's referencing a video game
@MasterCrvo11 ай бұрын
Im looking forward to trying spelunking with indestructible artifact lands, cleansing wildfire, couple other things, maybe troll-LD-saga?
@MTGGoldfish11 ай бұрын
Ohh, that sounds hilarious!
@DylanHunter6411 ай бұрын
'Good game to you, Rakdos! Good game to you!' lol such a sweet win
@jertlemiah11 ай бұрын
That air punch at 37:06 was perfect, that win felt so good
@cameronbulgin998611 ай бұрын
This is probably the final push i needed to give gates a try, ive really been enjoying the idea of running decks with wincons in the land base!!
@MTGGoldfish11 ай бұрын
The deck's a blast and cheap to put together, I would recommend.
@escapegrass11 ай бұрын
Try the cave budget deck, it’s actually p good and funny
@kbloSnack11 ай бұрын
This deck is such a joy to play, super fun and not too oppressive
@MTGGoldfish11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's one of my favorites, and cheap!
@josecod7711 ай бұрын
It's almost "fair" magic, it has good matchups, bad matchups, great ways to recover, when it goes off it goes off hard but you do things that can be interacted with before you go off, definitely one of the fun ones
@amossypile766511 ай бұрын
Druid class pops off absurdly hard with this deck, so glad to see this archetype making a swing back in historic!
@EffinChat11 ай бұрын
Seth's pop off at 37:00 was well deserved - some clutch playing/draws there
@philmelo46811 ай бұрын
Spelunking is essentially what Gond Gate does in formats its legal in, the difference is that Gond Gate is really easy to tutor. Really happy to see this effect in Arena
@AnonYmous-et4mz11 ай бұрын
Gond Gate doesn't untap your Mazes End, though. So while Spelunking my not be as easy to consistently find, it does more.
@zachgray476711 ай бұрын
I think Spelunking and Scapeshift are enough for their own Against the Odds video. You actually ramp mana while finding all your best lands!
@ianford922111 ай бұрын
scapeshift doesn't ramp unless the lands you get trap for multiple mana
@JackSears9511 ай бұрын
@@ianford9221it’s more like fast mana, you can tap all your lands and float the mana, scapeshift, get a bunch of untapped lands, and maybe do it again.
@zachgray476711 ай бұрын
Spelunking, Scapeshift, and that Valakut landfall card that exiles cards then deals damage for each exiled card at end of turn..... Sounds like a deck to me.
@freddejesus922211 ай бұрын
Scapeshift is great in gates. You can't tap all your mana, then sac all the Lands and when they all come in untapped you have even more mana. I play it Historic Brawl and have won several games with the combo.
@zachgray476711 ай бұрын
@@freddejesus9222I love Scapeshift in Brawl Gates. If you have Maze's End and any 9 other lands, you just win.
@artherfrain699911 ай бұрын
I built Gates after the last time they were on Budget Magic and have been having a blast with it. This is an amazing upgrade to the deck, can't wait to see how it goes.
@Vulpixon73211 ай бұрын
That mirror match at the end of the video was honestly a great closure for this video but also showed how strong *Spelunking* actually is here, assuming your opponent didn't had it in the deck from these 3 games.
@Irelandwalk11 ай бұрын
Great video. You could swap the 3 Flame-Blessed Bolt in the sideboard with 3 Torch the Tower (same rarity, but slightly upgraded effect). Rebel Salvo is functionally the same as Soul Sear in this deck. And all accounts have one copy (from the Rebel Armory starter deck), so this saves an uncommon wildcard. You could play one of each, to play around Meddling Mage and other cards that care about cards having the same name as each other. Three Maze’s End is probably too many; you need only one and can tutor it with Primeval Titan. You could replace two of them with an additional 1 Gruul Guildgate and 1 Izzet Guildgate. This would help with having the right colors for mana costs and making the deck even more budget friendly. Rebel Salvo {2}{R} Instant Affinity for Equipment (This spell costs {1} less to cast for each Equipment you control.) Rebel Salvo deals 5 damage to target creature or planeswalker. That permanent loses indestructible until end of turn. Torch the Tower {R} Instant Bargain (You may sacrifice an artifact, enchantment, or token as you cast this spell.) Torch the Tower deals 2 damage to target creature or planeswalker. If this spell was bargained, instead it deals 3 damage to that permanent and you scry 1. If a permanent dealt damage by Torch the Tower would die this turn, exile it instead. TLDR: Torch the Tower is strictly better than Flame-Blessed Bolt. One Rebel Salvo and one Soul Sear hedge against ‘choose a card name’ effects. Three Maze’s End might be excessive.
@a.artmaster873311 ай бұрын
The game against the Jund opponent with Kroxa was the single best game I’ve seen you play! 🎉🎉🎉
@yosoyelqueso11 ай бұрын
I’ve been having a fantastic time with your original Caves deck. I feel like this might be my next build 🤪
@TheDylls11 ай бұрын
NGL, I read "Spelunking Gates" and just assumed that Seth was calling "Caves" by the wrong name again... Still clicked on the video immediately 😅❤ Edit: "sir-KOOT-ee-us" andddddddd we're back 😂 Edit: Stone Brain naming Maze's End after T1 Gate is as funny as it is tilting ahaha Edit: Woahhhhh! Plaza/Baldur's Gate was some tech I didn't expect, either!
@fuzzmonkey6811 ай бұрын
I played the other gate deck starting from when you put it out and got myself to the rank below mythic, but stopped playing for a couple months due to life. I just played 3 games and this deck is way better!
@cuddlequeen322511 ай бұрын
Ive been playing this for the last little bit. Made my favourite arena deck wildly awesome.
@cuddlequeen322511 ай бұрын
This is not longer my favourite deck in the format.
@MelficeN78 ай бұрын
So what is your favorite deck now?
@cuddlequeen32258 ай бұрын
@@MelficeN7 lawl I still win most often with gates.
@swampybwoy11 ай бұрын
Hey Seth your audio sounded quite scratchy in the intro, I think you might have dislodged a wire or something! Great video much love x
@jertlemiah11 ай бұрын
Also no shade to Spelunking, but I think having a gates Nykthos (Baldur's Gate) is also a contender for MVP. It's not legal in any other format since it's a commander card, so it gives you a huge edge in this format vs explorer
@spoopymcspoop225311 ай бұрын
Few things in life are as satisfying and good as when they GG early and lose soon after.
@daktastik11 ай бұрын
was not expecting so much epic GG drama today
@12triproberts11 ай бұрын
If only we had the paper Thriving land versions of the most recent gates. "Seek" burns my eyes, but it's fantastic to see gates stomp.
@nobodyimportant7211 ай бұрын
Sure could be helpful to just fit those into the Pioneer version to give you more types of gates to run instead of wanting multiples of a few but mostly running singletons to get the 10 for Maze's End.
@jrjamesson11 ай бұрын
defeating the opponent after they give you the premature "good game" is so delicious
@Kingofnoodles11 ай бұрын
Always love new gate content
@olboe200811 ай бұрын
thanks for showcasing new gaTES DECK and yes maze end needs a build in gates counter
@thegameplayer12511 ай бұрын
safe to say your last opponent will be putting in spelunking into his gate deck
@megapixzel11 ай бұрын
Opponent: good game Seth: and i took that personally
@pablodiaz227811 ай бұрын
Great deck, had a similar idea for an explorer version with Crackling Perimeter, but arena didn't port It in. Algo, just a tip, you should not start taping baldur first. If you wait till the last possible moment, you could net more mana which would end being relevant to win faster.
@shabushaburo11 ай бұрын
Amulet of Vigor with Explore attached? I NEEEEEEED IT
@goncaloferreira642911 ай бұрын
Strange to see how gates started as a meme deck in standard and is now one of the best combo decks in historic.
@miguelfreitas534311 ай бұрын
It was just a matter of time until this video came... 😌
@rossbalch11 ай бұрын
Beating the early GGer jund player was the sweetest thing I've seen all week.
@JacoAmano11 ай бұрын
37:20 GG to you. Nice one. Too funny
@AceTrainerchannel11 ай бұрын
Hey does his audio sound choppy in the early part of the video
@tdstealthninja11 ай бұрын
Okay so I wasn’t the only one, I thought it was my headphones at first
@thechestrockfield11 ай бұрын
So I was looking for a new deck and always loved Gates, so this was perfect. Went from Bronze 4 to Diamond in two days. Thank you @SaffronOlive @MTGGoldfish
@DanAllen1175 ай бұрын
I love when my favorite deck gets new toys.
@domodoz11 ай бұрын
Seth vs ggs is even more entertaining than the deck itself
@jonathansnow2111 ай бұрын
"Good game to you, Rakdos! Good game to you!" Proceeds to hit "Good Game" emote. You love to see it.
@Keitaromar10 ай бұрын
Nice deck Saffron!! How about a Pionner Gates?? ^^
@jeremyobriant726611 ай бұрын
I love when you bring up your family's corrections history. I've worked in corrections for years. I think that, like anything else, you can't take a song too seriously, you shouldn't take a lifestyle too seriously, and you definitely shouldn't take your job too seriously (gotta have that work-life balance). 🤷♂️
@zachgray476711 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up. Seth's playing Gates
@samanthalouise6417 ай бұрын
Going to try this deck for the historic metagame challenge wish me luck!
@f8y11111 ай бұрын
You should play habiwar battlements. So that you can get it with prime time along with a red gate, give prime time haste since it comes in untapped now, and then get two more lands
@johnnyandthepnuemoni11 ай бұрын
Who knew an "Ohm-mu-let" with card draw attached to it would be good in gates?
@leemay778011 ай бұрын
there is NOTHING more satisfying in Magic than beating a premature 'Good Game' opponent!
@adamtobiasz879310 ай бұрын
I approve of the cheap paper cost of this deck brother Set.😊😊😊😊
@TheWorldsStage11 ай бұрын
Seth not throwing a "GG" back at the second opponent makes him a better man than me. I would have shown them the emote rotation until Karn ran out of crowds to surf
@WiLDRAGE77711 ай бұрын
I would hate losing to this but I love watching Seth win with it.
@Martin-qb2mw11 ай бұрын
Everyone early GG's Seth and he comes back and slams them. You love to see it.
@Goblintom11 ай бұрын
I have wanted to make a good gate deck forever, this one is fun. First game, easy victory.
@douglasarnett-arnold151611 ай бұрын
Pays for that gg when they thought they had lethal 😂😂😂 37:17
@Bigd2k11 ай бұрын
It’s always interesting to me to see a card I use well be outright broken with someone else using it.
@daviddent566211 ай бұрын
You know Seth I would be happy about this, I have loads of Gates and I know at least one person who would probably loan me some Primeval Titans if I begged enough but I only have one spelunking which I had in my binder for Cave Tribal in Standard lol You've driven up the price now so that's gonna be harder to get than the Titans or Plazas! XD I'm laughing but it's a sobbing laugh at how comical this is!
@WusigiDr111 ай бұрын
im glad i made the previous version because now i have basically all of this deck for best of ones! haha
@TheyCallMeDio11 ай бұрын
Spelunking has been in all of my Green decks ever since I got my hands on one
@legendaryrat11 ай бұрын
You probably want Basilisk Gate in there to pump your Titans as a plan B
@snekula535311 ай бұрын
Not historic legal
@TMidander11 ай бұрын
Yes, I was looking forward to this one! =)
@ElianaMCP11 ай бұрын
I'm making a budget 5c commander for gates and caves. I wonder if I'll get some ideas here
@imperialtutor868711 ай бұрын
No prime time in cmd is a big loss
@mysterygamer408611 ай бұрын
the flashbacks to amulet titan is real
@loganator32611 ай бұрын
Okay this is amazing and I will 100% be building it
@TypeGSiR11 ай бұрын
Makes me wanna play gates finally
@CasperGrimshaw11 ай бұрын
Wondering if Spelunking is better than Wilderness Reclamation for a gates deck now.
@OGNoNameNobody11 ай бұрын
This...was supposed to be my deck of choice after rotation(whoops). Now that *Spelunking* has made it *insane* , I think this is going to be my DEC path to Mythic choice!
@jarredbartley764210 ай бұрын
I just got to mythic using a variant of this deck!!
@MRJazzygameplay2711 ай бұрын
Please try the Orvar Roaming Throne combo!
@MaxMckayful11 ай бұрын
Feels a bit like "we have Amulet Titan at home". Any time you mess with features of cards meant to balance them "ignore enters tapped", always a decent chance for brokenness.
@chekl198211 ай бұрын
oh man, i thought my TV got black dot for minutes there. i am glad it wasn’t the case
@notimportant76811 ай бұрын
Theres this slight tilt from the greenscreen in the video that had me very concerned something was wrong with my phone. But it moves with the video and doesnt show anywhere else so i dont think its me?
@americanxlove11 ай бұрын
Find someone who loves you the way Seth loves gates decks.
@julixcvi11 ай бұрын
Spelunking ist my favorite word now
@isaacthek11 ай бұрын
Gond Gate did that too, but only for gates. This untaps all lands
@Korlis511 ай бұрын
Gates mirror might be the saddest matchup I've ever gazed upon. Oh well at least it's shorter than control mirror
@leonardodavinci590211 ай бұрын
seth watching this at 1 am after smoking af at bowl and eating a fat bowl of cereal to listen to you say "splunking" was the best thing i heard in years. i just miss the intros what happened?
@th3TwistedLight11 ай бұрын
I wonder if there's something to replace the Titans with while I cry amassing the wildcards for them
@patrice284711 ай бұрын
Turtle maybe
@th3TwistedLight11 ай бұрын
@@patrice2847 still a mythic D: Tho I , personally, do have 2 of them, so at least something to start with
@patrice284711 ай бұрын
@th3TwistedLight yeah I get that but I thought maybe if ya had a turtle or two it's better than nothing
@Duall811 ай бұрын
Cavalier of Thorns can block decently. Sylvan Scrying is available as a non-rare for just tutoring Baldur's Gate/Maze's End.
@jaxsonbateman11 ай бұрын
Enough green sources? First three games were all missing them from the starting hand.
@fedemza20079 ай бұрын
Is adding wilderness reclamation to this deck a good idea? or its just me wanting to play it everywhere?
@mh252511 ай бұрын
IDK what experience you have had playing this but I am getting stomped. No idea what decks you faced but in plat all I find are combo after combo most of which YOU are responsible for creating... or control. Deranked 4 tiers with this pile and I have played many many hours of gates. Don't know what this deck needs but it needs something.
@Llanowar_Kitten11 ай бұрын
I feel like this deck probably has bad matchups against the new discover and Amelia combo decks since instant speed removal isn’t online until turn 4 normally.
@WoodEl11 ай бұрын
Love it, thanks seth
@ElianaMCP11 ай бұрын
Protection from everything does not include emotional damage
@elitestar96311 ай бұрын
“Jenked us out with luminarch aspirant”- says the jank player
@uucue11 ай бұрын
"good game to you" should be a friendly phrase. I blame internet society, lol
@VictorHC65111 ай бұрын
Deck idea: Heliod, radiant down + a bunch of shuffle/draw 7, and kill your opponent by using blue zenith or something really big with an x or colorless cost
@breath425511 ай бұрын
Kinda funny to see opponent 2 live rent free in seth's head just b/c they had the gall to say gg lmao
@koumingma11 ай бұрын
is torch the tower not just strictly better than flame blessed bolt these days?
@tylerb264411 ай бұрын
Pretty new to the channel here. Can anyone explain the name SaffronOlive? Just wondering why such a unique name. Was it generated?
@feliperomeug11 ай бұрын
I know the idea is to have a budget friendly gates but, if we were to spend more, is there any consideradation for a Yorion version with extra Navigation Orbs and maybe Golos/Atraxa?
@ecoKady11 ай бұрын
As a combo deck, the number 1 priority is consistency. Going up to 80 cards reduces the ease of finding your combo pieces without adding much to the deck.
@feliperomeug11 ай бұрын
@ecoKady not necessarily, with orbs you can find extra gates as you would, but it also gives you extra lands to find (I'm testing with around 41) so you have more copies of mazes end and baldurs. Adding cards that tutor your lands and draw more cards shouldn't take much of the consistency in this specific case
@MitchPiotrowski11 ай бұрын
Honestly it's crazy that Protection from Everything doesn't include instant-win mechanics.
@syrelian11 ай бұрын
How would it? The Maze's End say the user WINS, not that the opponent LOSES, they're unaffected by the ability entirely they just lose as a consequence of someone winning, something like Door to Nothing doesn't work because they're immune to the effect that says You Lose multiple times over, so the only loss conditions open to a Prot All player are effectively caused by losing other Loss protection effects I'm pre'sure so that they die to negative life/maxed Poison they already have, or I guess milling yourself
@kirbi20011 ай бұрын
Gates in pionner with spelumking . I think coud be fun
@JoeKell36511 ай бұрын
i think one copy of The World Tree would be good for the mid-stages of the game after you have a bunch of lands in play so it isn't as important which ones you tap for mana plus, it makes for a decent scare tactic
@Divinorum23239 ай бұрын
I don‘t get it, why play 2 explore and 4 growths if Explore is the same card with easier mana cost?
@nicholasleyden212011 ай бұрын
Really thought my own screen was scratched for that mark on the screen 😂
@demonhunter228211 ай бұрын
does arena have amulet of vigor?
@russellforrest331911 ай бұрын
Does this give gates enough to do anything in modern, budget or not?
@zirilan339811 ай бұрын
short answer: no long answer: why not play Scapeshift or Amulete-Titan instead?
@cesarpiedra916511 ай бұрын
Also Baldur’s gate is not modern legal
@russellforrest331911 ай бұрын
Both fair points. I was mainly looking for something to shake up the local meta.
@zirilan339811 ай бұрын
@@russellforrest3319 if you wanna go with something that fucks around with the Meta try out something with Roiling Vortex and/or Vod Mirror Main
@bengrodsky792411 ай бұрын
Do you think that gates could be a viable deck in pioneer now? I know it lacks baldurs gate and prime time. Does the lack of those two cards make it too slow?
@ecoKady11 ай бұрын
Much too slow.
@Howaboua11 ай бұрын
Oh god. As if gates weren't annoying enough 🤣 you just can't come prepared for them. Thanks, at least I know not to dabble in historic 🤣
@7deuc2e3811 ай бұрын
Really wish you made more videos of decks in better formats (and by that I mean anything that isn't standard or historic)