My Parents Are Furious At Me For Keeping A Secret After Being Low Contact With Them r/Relationships

[@HaleyJo1992]

Story 1: Can almost guarantee the grandparents will show favoritism. I was one of the "lesser" grandkids. Your kids will notice the difference.

[@nataliereeves3594]

That happened to me. Ime the child of the scapegoat daughter and my cousins, the children of the golden child. When I was the only grandchild, my grandmother couldn't get enough of me. The second my first cousin was born, it was like I didn't exist. Op should not let her kid near the parents.

[@sup9441]

Mom: 'How could you keep such a big secret?!' Also Mom: Doesn't tell her the sister is getting married or that she is in town.

[@briansmaller7443]

Open relationship story - Once opened, that Pandora's Box cannot be shut. She did not want an actual open relationship -she wanted to shag her ex. I am betting he got bored and moved on. She also made opening the relationship an ultimatum. She will make closing it one too and will paint OP as a cheater etc etc. We all know how this one goes.

[@kratkartan1486]

And once the open relationship is mentioned, her story will fall apart.

[@helixxia9320]

So true

[@Russman67]

Story 2: it took OP being seen as attractive to other women for his girlfriend to see him as someone she wanted to keep. Just end this one. The genie is out of the bottle.

[@randomusername3873]

This always blows me away. Like, you are together with this person, you must think they are attractive right? Unless of course they were never attracted in the first place and the relationship was out of convenience, which wouldn't surprise me since they asked to open it

[@jennilynne1977]

I love it when some partners will put you down, but when you find someone better who makes you feel good about yourself all of the sudden they change their tune. My ex was like that. For the last 5-10 years we were together he would do nothing but call me names, accuse me of cheating ( I wasn't, but I knew he was because I found messages) and put me down. When I started hanging out with my husband, I started feeling better about myself, broke up with my ex, started dating my husband and have been happy ever since. Of course there are some days where it's not necessarily happy, but there are going to be some bumps in the road in a relationship, but 99% of the time, I'm happy in my relationship.

[@JDKT002]

it's a tale old as time. One person insists on opening up their relationship as a means to cheat guilt free. They don't think of anything past the person they already have lined up. These people are always too self-involved to realized they are literally setting themselves up for their partner to finally realized how little they are actually valued in the relationship when they finally get to see how other intimate partners will treat them.

[@onurkneezb]

It was over as soon as she proposed the open relationship. Also, whenever anyone suggests one, its always one of 2 things, they already cheated, or they have someone lined up.

[@BersealiaDreamheart]

Yeap, she wanted to cheat and it backfired on her. And it give her pride a free one-way trip to the ER.

[@johnowen9349]

Mom's main points: "Our relationship has been good lately!" Because your daughter told you nothing about her life that you could use to make her miserable. That is to say, your relationship wasn't good you just lacked opportunity to ratchet up the misery supply. "Selfish to have all this space while we rent a storage room!" Somebody answer that phone... cause OP called it! Not your space, she didn't want to deal with your expectations, you immediately proved that she was right to be cautious about that. "I'm hurt you don't include me in every part of your life!" And OP is hurt every time she does.

[@yozarahirvi4750]

"Our relationship has been good lately but we've been around for a month now and hadn't even contacted you to tell you about it or arrange a dinner or something, let alone discuss about your sister wedding which is the real reason we're around, but appart from that, our relationship have been good" "I'm hurt you don't include me in every part of your life but we don't even bother to tell you when we're around although we live oversea and the chances to meet up are pretty rare already"

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

So the parents are back in town for a month and don't say anything. Sister got married, no one said anything. And why the hell are the parents keeping anything in storage when they live in another country now? Why should OP be forced to litter her house with their crap-- which they will doubtless complain if anything happens to their precious stuff. OP is truly the black sheep, but she needs to tell them to "flock off".

[@owl7072]

Story 1: "We know we essentially kept it a secret that we're in town as well as how we found your address and that we were gonna come by but how DARE you keep things from us!"

[@geraldgrenier8132]

in town for Sister's wedding that she knew nothing about

[@AndyyWithAY]

It is ridiculous to expect to store all your crap in someone's house. If you cannot store everything in your home and don't want to pay to store it, SELL IT!

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

10 years? Unless the stuff is antique, it's likely dry rotted.

[@trixmania]

Well op was right, they wanted the house for storage. And why not store at sister house? They don't like op and hubby but want favours 🤷‍♀️

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@trixmania because the OP is the child they inconvenience.

[@trixmania]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles of course, cos the sis is the favourite. If anything happened to that stuff, op would never hear the end of it. Unless they coming back to live there is no reason to keep it

[@t.matthies3049]

It doesn't hurt to ask, but I do agree it shouldn't be an expectation (I had a bunch of my things stored at parents' respective homes while I was living overseas, which they were both ok with, so I may be a bit biased on that front).

[@blacbamboo284]

I always enjoy hearing stories where the "open relationship so I can cheat"-partner gets karma'd the f up

[@thecoolgrandma7208]

Good ending.

[@sliceofpizzainspace]

I don't know if you remember me, but I made a comment last year around Christmas. I was in the hospital having my first baby. I just wanted to say that my daughter loves watching your videos with me. We have waffle and cuddle time everyday. Thank you for being awesome!

[@sar9998]

Congratulations

[@ms.andeedill280]

That's so sweet.

[@shadowm2k7]

Wholesome 😭😭😭💘💘💘

[@Sunnyside55]

That's so sweet! Congrats on the baby! Savor it, it goes by so fast!

[@hughg.rection1421]

Hey, congrats on the baby!

[@Boreas-]

If any Tom, Dick or Harry told you that they're looking for their estranged adult child DON'T BRING THEM RIGHT TO THEIR DOOR.

[@jennilynne1977]

The thing is that the parents lied and said they were already going to see OP later on in the day and OP didn't really let her friend know that she didn't want her parents over. I'm not blaming OP because she didn't think that her parents were in the country, so she didn't have any reason to mention that she didn't want her parents to know where she lived.

[@randomusername3873]

The person that asked for an open relationship getting mad when the other partner sleeps with somebody is absolutely disgusting to me. It just shows that they don't think that their partner is attractive enough to find someone else. Which means that they were never attracted to them in the first place, and they were just using them for the all relationship

[@amerhamad4577]

It's usually the woman who thinks the husband can't find anyone. All men know that women would have no problem getting sex in an open relationship.

[@ginathecookie]

@@amerhamad4577 wrong

[@ginathecookie]

@@amerhamad4577 there's some women who won't (either do it or be able to) or some men who think their woman won't be able to

[@locusxe1411]

@@ginathecookie from what I’ve seen it’s mainly women. Sure some men do it to but mostly women

[@lalithrockz]

@@ginathecookie they are always those fboys who need their daily fix.

[@beansquee2383]

I don’t see how a relationship with them is worth it. Their daughter can afford a nice home that she can raise a family in. They should be thrilled.

[@katrinschirmer8018]

I'd also have a talk with D. who invites someone to someone else's house without asking if it's okay first? edit: oh, so they lied to her, to get her to take them to the house. that makes her less of an ass, but still, knowing how theive treated OP she should have double-checked with OP first.

[@AngelaVEdwards]

That's what I was going to say. They could have been excited for their daughter and son in law instead of screaming crap at them. That's idiotic.

[@Callimo]

@@katrinschirmer8018 Yeah D sounds super naive...but she's too old to act so baby brained. And the fact that both D AND OP shut down when the parents started to rage...OP needs friends as strong as her husband

[@JustinAdamson270]

My egg donor got me fired for making 15 cents more an hr than she did lol

[@datmanydocris]

Story 2: Wanting to open up the relationship because "it would be good for the two of us to get some experience" is code word for they want to cheat and get ran through without the guilt.

[@canadalovesanime3137]

story 1: OP better be prepared to send the moving truck away when it shows up. Then when the parents start with the guilt; "but we canceled the storage unit, and have no where for our stuff. You HAVE TO keep it now". I would say "not my problem", and put that "friend " on an info diet as well.

[@Raaslen]

Story 2: well, we see this story every so often, sometimes the genders are swapped, but it's always the same tale.

[@BruinPhD2009]

Yup, the person who wants an open relationship gets jealous when their partner ends up having more fun. Be careful what you ask for...

[@groofromtheup5719]

This is slightly more hypocritical than most "we both need to get more experience" **proceeds to only hook up with her ex** I also doubt she stopped completely with the ex. She just claimed she did so he could push him to cut off his quality lay.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

@@groofromtheup5719 GF was trying to rekindle with the ex and it flopped. She was just trying to monkeybranch back to OP.

[@Cel3ere5]

*Story 1:* Who the hell is D? They're the asshole, who brings people over as a whole surprise!?

[@laraq07]

Put D on a no contact list as well especially once the baby comes cause I wouldn't be surprised if she feels the grandparents should know about their grandchild/see pics et. No one is THAT naive.

[@PinkMarshmallows]

D was lied to by the parents. Not her fault.

[@topazcoyote5482]

@@PinkMarshmallows there's "being lied to" and then there's knowing that they're terrible, choosing not to call to give a heads up, not defending your friend when they start bullying their kid and straight up dipping like a coward.

[@topazcoyote5482]

Also, D is an adult. No matter how naive she is, it does not take away from the fact that she still chose to do what she did.

[@aynuralbek6474]

@@topazcoyote5482 it’s awkward to invite ppl to someone else’s house like that without calling em

[@thefallennero5265]

"Opening the relationship would be good for the two of us to get some experience, that way we wouldn't get bored of each other?" If that isn't the biggest indication that not only is she already bored of OP and she has either already been cheating on OP and wanted to use the open relationship as the reason to keep cheating while not feeling guilty or she already has someone in mind

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

If you wanted to spice things up, there's a million ways to do it without bringing someone else into a relationship. GF was just monkeybranching.

[@khaleesireyna731]

My response to the parents in story 1's comment about how a "true daughter would never keep secrets like this" would be "and a true parent wouldn't treat their child like the damn maid". Honestly, parents like this deserve every ounce of humiliation. They won't learn a damn thing until everyone knows exactly what a POS they are.

[@floraposteschild4184]

I hope D has been cured of inviting people to someone else's house to "surprise" them, or any other reason. Because, though she is naive and means well, that is never cool.

[@nilianstroy]

She didn't tho, the parents lied that they had been invited by op on the very same day for a dinner...

[@joimumu]

Dee is a moron because there is no way Op never told her that her parents hate her Edit ether Dee is close enough to know about this or she isn’t to invite Op parents

[@thatjeff7550]

Well there definitely was a surprise involved....

[@bunnyslippers191]

Even if someone is renting the place where they live, it's *still" "their roof," and they have every right to tell someone not to yell and scream at the people who live there under their roof.

[@aliciarae8726]

Story 1 : Who invites someone to someone ELSE'S house without saying anything ? I could never imagine doing that.

[@joimumu]

Agree only dumb ass of the year does that

[@dawndoe11]

OP clarified in a later comment that her parents told D that they were invited for dinner later the same day, so D thought it would be a nice surprise if they showed up a bit earlier. If we want to give D the benefit of doubt, I can believe that OP's parents would lie about that. They didn't have OP's address, and if they wanted to snoop, D gave them an easy way to do it.

[@ZomBeeQueeen]

She literally explained why ….

[@BW022]

They aren't someone, they are her parents. If my friend's parents were in town and I was going to their son's place, I wouldn't think twice about 'inviting' them over as a surprise. I might be a bit confused why they didn't know his address, but the assumption is they aren't estranged.

[@PardonSylver]

​@@BW022That just makes you WORSE. Friend's parents don't know where friend lives and you decide to invite them over 'as a surprise?" At least in the story D was told by parents that they were invited for dinner and probably didn't know parents were kept unaware. Inviting people to your house to surprise them is all fine and dandy but you don't bring someone over to someone else's house without knowing if they were okay to be there!

[@rosefriday4287]

I think that OP in the second story handled the breakup very well. Good idea bringing a witness and doing it at a public place. And also very satisfying to hear that he let her have it

[@djdomain]

Story 1 : I wish OP had the courage to read the riot act to her parents. Story 2 : Ahhh there's the riot act :D

[@dm9078]

OP needs help. She thinks it’s unfortunate that her husband came home and stopped them abusing her? If she just told them this could have been avoided. How sad is that kind of thinking?

[@TailsFan]

She thinks it's unfortunate that he clued them in on them owning the place.

[@PrismCasillica]

I can understand OP being in denial, I use to be like them. You never want to believe that your parents dont love you and only see you as some thing that either has a use or not. It hurts so much when you realize that. It changes you forever.

[@philwill0123]

Problem is OP in her mind has "managed" the parental relationship, which involves the husband biting his tongue and being made to be treated ike shit like the AP. OP is in denial about the extent of her toxic parents.

[@toysruskid5074]

Story 1: It's no coincidence they had an easy story to convince OPs friend to take them to OP. They know they're on an info diet. They PLANNED and tracked down old friends to get information and managed to manipulate an invite.

[@rylashadow18]

Just remember people who value you will never take you being treated poorly by anyone including family. I hope the OP in story 1 enjoys her new shiny spine with her real family. Dude in story 2 needs to realize his relationship was over the moment she gave an ultimatum. The rules are if someone say "Open the relationship or else I leave" You go to the door and say "Glad you want me to be happy with someone who values me. I want the same for you as well. This is the only answer I have for you. Best of luck in your future."

[@ashlaraque4135]

Story 1, as someone who has insane parents that I have gone no contact with, it’s wild to me how people will go all the way into their 30s dealing with this shit. I am 23 but I cut her off when I was 21 and I will never re-introduce that psycho into my life. At a point you just realize Who they really are and it’s hard to have any respect or to give a damn about getting validation from them. Story 2, RIGHT ON!!!! Enjoy yourself!

[@Mewse1203]

Story 2: end it. She had zero respect or love for him and didn't want him at all really until she realized he was actually hooking up with others and not just saying he was. This is about her jealousy, and the moment that is gone so is her newfound desire. People need to know when to end relationships which have run their course.

[@OracleThunder]

Story 1: even if D believed the parents were invited to dinner she had no right to bring them to the house. I don’t know how it is where she lives but if you are invited to dinner you don’t invite yourself or others to lunch. It is rude to the host and makes it so they have to choose between preparing for planned event and ignore the uninvited guests or fail to prepare for the event and be a good host to the interlopers.

[@FootLucy1013]

I would assume D is not estranged from family. many who have healthier relationships, or at least active relationships, cannot fathom keeping family at a distance. So unless op detailed what happened with parents, and even then that might not work, D might have thought distance was the issue and op wouldn't really care

[@meadowsong8560]

Highlight of the day: Learning about the term Pillow Princess.

[@standinthegsp6858]

A quote from a movie I once saw: “...there’s only one thing a woman wants. What another woman has...” OP, either the ex exbf broke it off with her or she suddenly realized someone else wanted you & you were no longer her little obedient lap dog.

[@SakuraMoonflower]

The same is absolutely true for men. It's the human condition, not a gender based thing. XD

[@JasperCatProductions]

I would just go no contact with them. It’s none of their business, if you keep them in your life it is just a lifetime of BS. Don’t get roped into storing their junk or dealing with any of their nuts. Stop your to old to let them treat you this way.

[@stefaniebraun3319]

If her parents were twenty years older, a little less healthy and it was nice stuff, OP might just go along with it. I doubt they consider her doormat daughter worthy of an inheritance and it might be a clever way to secure one for her child.

[@TheIronwil]

If a friend of mine gave out my address without asking they’d no longer be my friend. Don’t care if it was OP’s parents. If they wanted her address, they could bloody well call her and ask. Giving contact info out without leave is messed up.

[@jennilynne1977]

I always ask before I give out someone I know's information. I realize that not everyone is like that though.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

@@jennilynne1977 They should be! I understand why it’s not necessarily applicable in this case, because the parents basically tricked the friend, but no one should _ever_ give out anyone’s personal info, especially of a female. Actually, female or not. I once had a roommate give out my phone # and our _address_ (why??) to a man I did NOT want to know my personal information! He wasn’t even a friend or family member, just someone we had met out who I felt was kind of “off.” I just don’t understand that level of cluelessness.

[@heathermiller5765]

@@mkuti-childress3625 You stated exactly the way I feel about it. They should be!

[@itazuranakisu]

Opening a relationship rarely works out because someone’s feelings usually gets hurt when the relationship started out monogamous and it becomes a derailed train because you might as well be single at that point. And usually the people who do suggest opening already had a mental list and don’t want to be seen as the “bad person” if they end the relationship or cheat instead.

[@Tammohawk1]

1. So parents are in town, don't tell OP, and are upset that OP didn't tell them about her new house. Hmm... Seems to be quite a bit of not telling going on around here. And how dare OP not tell them so they can use her for storage reasons. Didn't even tell her that they were in town for OP's sister's wedding. They have a lot of nerve. 2. It's been my experience in life and observing others, if you don't have an open relationship from the beginning, it's not going to work. You can't bring in a third party even without repercussions generally.

[@user-fg4tn8ot6b]

Story two: Then, end the relationship. For good. And enjoy your life. Because it's baffling that she becomes affectionate and open-minded to s*x when she has competition. When *she* decided to open the relationship. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@aaroneisenman6873]

Happens in 90 percent of open relationships.

[@ceeshnia]

@@aaroneisenman6873 I think it's more so the ones opened after the marriage/relationship was established, not so much the enm's who start off that way, because one already has an established monogamous base, and the other, a different kind of base. It's not something I can ever see myself doing, but I can appreciate that there is no one size fits all with relationships.

[@jakeand9020]

Yes, if one side has to pressure their partner into making it an open relationship, it's already over. If both parties go into a relationship with the understanding, and desire for it to be, an open relationship, that's entirely different. It is possible for a relationship to become open and still work, but again, both sides need to want it, not just agree for the other person. It's actually saved relationships in these cases on rare occasion. Personally, it's not for me, but it's not inherently bad nor wrong.

[@wordforger]

It's weird, but apparently men who already have a GF/wife tend to be more attactive to other women because they've been vetted.

[@Rose_Bride]

D is NOT "the sweetest person." She thoughtlessly stirred drama and conveniently "slipped away" without trying to help stand up for OP for a situation that SHE caused by inviting people whom she KNOWS were @bu$¡ve to OP. Why wouldn't she call OP first to check? Personally I would cut D out of my life. I'm glad OP at least has her husband to support her.

[@audreym3908]

Because not everyone is good with confrontation nor had lived a life of abuse from family. Not to mention it was an awkward situation. I don't think she was malicious at all. Also, D was TRICKED, have you ever thought of that? No because you are a cynical person.

[@joimumu]

@@audreym3908 people like Dee should not be allowed to vote

[@ScooterBond1970]

I don't think I've ever seen a story about a relationship being "opened" that didn't end like this. It's really just a license to cheat.

[@ettinakitten5047]

You should read More Than Two by Eve Rickert and Franklin Veaux. It sounds like you're getting a skewed perspective of non-monogamy by only reading about it on forums where people go to talk about problematic relationships.

[@jordanwardle11]

Only when it's open during the relationship. When it is done from the get go with consenting adults, it doesn't happen as much

[@josh4601]

@@ettinakitten5047 Why is it non-monogamous people feel the need to proselytize to people. man, you guys are almost worse than vegans for this haha

[@davidkermes376]

hey, resident'_alien; if i've learned one thing about being the black sheep of the family, it is: OWN IT ! once i got out on my own and proved to myself that i was worthwhile, my family was stunned to learn they had no power over me. i have never been a fan of the "open relationship" stuff, but you might want to remind princess starfish that wanting something and getting it are often two different things. your relationship is now on thin ice, through nobody's actions but hers.

[@poohbear4515]

Earlier, Mark read a story about an OP who was incredibly stupid enough to continue wanting a relationship with her toxic, and heartless mother. This one is almost the same, but with two toxic, and heartless parents. Now that she and her husband will be having a baby, she’ll hopefully stop being so idiotic and put her child’s needs first than trying to find any sort of “love” from them. NTA, but she will be a very big one if she doesn’t stop contacting, or seeing them.

[@lifewithlee6298]

It’s hard to cut off people you grew up with who are supposed to love you.

[@chromaticHermit]

Its not accurate to call it idiotic. Being emotionally attached to parents isnt born of stupidity, its human. Its hard to pull away from that, even if its the smart thing to do. Likely she knows it would be. I dont disagree with you, but Id be careful with throwing that word around to describe people stuck in abusive relationships.

[@jacobsmith1997]

@@chromaticHermit Their idiots

[@BruinPhD2009]

@@chromaticHermit I agree. Blind, maybe naive, but OP is not idiotic.

[@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh]

Toxic Mah dude

[@TryniaMerin]

Sounds like the parents in story 1 are angry because they cannot stick their noses into OP's life anymore.

[@HM-rw7ly]

Story 1: tell the parents anything they want left in the house will either be thrown out or sold depending on the condition of them. That should stop them from doing anything most likely.

[@giantcat4354]

The guy from the last story handled that break up like a pro.

[@helema23]

i giggled at the image of D mouthing "im just gonna go" and runnin out the door.

[@PrismCasillica]

This situation is exactly why I went NC with my folks

[@zoe9190]

Unless its like it from the conception of the relationship, open relationship is code for “i have someone i wanna bang or already started banging and dont want to be caught or outed as a cheater if the relationship ends”. Dont recall hearing a story of an “open relationship” of an established monogamous couple ever really ending well, and those that do are the exception to my reason

[@ceeshnia]

I think there have been a couple of ones that decided to try swinging, but that's a different dynamic.

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@ceeshnia even swinging probably kills 80% of the relationships it is brought into, but an open relationship is absolutely caustic. I can only ever see that remotely working if the relationship is completely sexless and the asexual one says "go off and have some fun. I'll be here waiting for you to return." And even then, most likely going to kill it.

[@Swnsasy]

How dare you not tell us you moved into a house? How dare you not tell me you actually bought it? How dare you not tell me you've been here for a damn month? How dare you not tell me my sister was getting married and that's why you're here? They literally proved exactly WHY they are on an info diet.. This is a house, not a storage unit... Their behavior is what dictates the relationship is what I would have told them... Their hypocrites and overbearing!! Story 2: The moment someone wants to open your relationship, it's over period.. There is nothing to save and nothing to keep..

[@civivva4501]

Open relationship fail Number 769 🤣

[@johannaweichsel3602]

More like 769,000

[@brandyb2931]

I would've told my parents that my buying a large home has zero to do with their storage unit because none of their crap is going inside of my home. But then again my parents would never behave this way as they are adults with their own home who never expected anything of me.

[@J_e_s_s]

Story 1 - the comment about the friend inviting the parents was essentially my thought. Does she not know that OP is not close with her parents? My friends all know I'm not close with mine so I find it kind of hard to believe.

[@mifphilip]

That C U Next Tuesday was hilarious Mark. Had a good laugh.

[@fhuber7507]

2... OP's GF wanted an open relationship until OP enjoyed it... Bye Felicia!

[@justinchristoph3725]

It feels like I've been reading the same story, with slightly different details about the girlfriend/wife wants and open relationship, talks the reluctant boyfriend/husband into agreeing to that. The boyfriend/husband either starts getting really popular with the ladies or gets a lover that makes him happier than he was before. Then the girlfriend/wife gets upset about that and wants to close the relationship. I've seen the same thing with different subjects on Reddit. After the original post, several other posts pop-up that seem almost identical with minor details changed. Frankly, I'm strongly suspecting that perhaps 80% of the relationship stories on Reddit are exercises in fiction writing.

[@brokenmask333]

1st story: NTA After the update: the bio parents just want a life long punching bag. Someone they could make miserable for their own sick amusement. They’re gonna try to make contact again when the sister has children, and op should be a “good aunt”.

[@sxatcychan1988]

Can you imagine the meltdown they'll have upon learning that OP also has children?

[@brokenmask333]

@@sxatcychan1988oh no. They’ll be thrilled. More playthings for them to abuse

[@warjdani]

1 story get cameras and security for your house once that baby comes your so called family will try to get in your house to see the baby because they will say it's their right.

[@shereebuckley7208]

The girlfriend wanted the open relationship for herself as a way to hook up with her ex without " cheating." Now it's back firing on her.

[@kuno3336]

People from healthy families have good intentions, but they tend to not understand unhealthy family situations

[@iyaayas]

10:30 - My husband helped me see my Mom as abusive toward me. He helped me shut her out, re-establish some old boundaries, establish new ones, and establish good boundaries with people in our lives (I was a doormat). Mom and I went a long time LC. We're still LC but less so. All interactions involve surface level discussions or my kids. Glad OP's hubby is doing the same.

[@slick8086]

story 1, some one needs to tell OP that you don't grow families in the garden.

[@mpmansell]

Story 2 sounds like the old poly sarcasm of ' Relationship broken. Add more people', meaning it's a real dumb idea. I agree that the gf used opening as an excuse to (not) cheat. OP should call it a day on this relationship.

[@marsalwin5101]

Open relationships only ever really work if its open when the relationship begins. Opening it up later is just asking for disaster.

[@joimumu]

Agree when one of them wants to open the relationship up it’s only fun while the there is a rush when that over they have the same root problem

[@kerribottriell-baxter7345]

I heard the story on another channel and it is extremely telling when you hear the update. Sad when you think about it. Why do parents end up being such morons? Not all obviously, there are sane people, it's the ones like OP's parents, (among the others we've heard in the past), that makes your mind boggle half the time.

[@groofromtheup5719]

s2; the second a person asks about an open relationship, the relationship is over, but you might ask "who is the guy?" There is always a guy. she is already cheating (85%) or has someone in mind (14%). Even in the remotest chance that it isn't the case, she still is saying that "You aren't enough for me." In this case, it is obvious that she has been lying about it from the very beginning (hooking up with an ex isn't experiencing new things) and there is no reason she would keep on cheating no matter what she says. If OP closes the relationship, it should be monogamous with the new girl.

[@WillTw12]

I’m in online theatre class and it sucks rn but now I have something to keep me company :)

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

Last story, guy got it right in the end. The relationship was over when she asked to open it. Good for him.

[@youarehere594]

I think the only one who didn't see the relationship falling apart was the ex, she thought that she could cheat and not have any consequences, but she never thought about him being able to do the same thing. As he said, maybe she'll figure it out with the next guy and I hope she does for her sake and the guy she ends up with.

[@maurer3d]

Story 2 (before update): NTA, she wanted an open relationship to cheat on you...Open relationships almost never work and this is exactly why, the party asking doesn't really want an open relationship they just want to cheat without the guilt of hiding it and assume the other party will just stay home and wait for them.

[@Dimensionalalteration]

Once you open up a relationship,all of the relationship leaks out. It's a slow and painful breakup

[@yagirlchoco20]

It has been a long time since I have written up a comment. Probably because when I feel shitty your videos always make it better and it's then I type things down. Thank you Mark, it helps me to get away from some trouble in my mind. Have a great day!

[@Spyrodelta]

These damn open relationship is literally the phrase "play stupid games win stupid prizes"

[@mulqueen2023]

Literally the only time an open relationship is healthy and well received on both ends is if both people entering the relationship clarify that they WANT an open relationship! Not just dropping it in four years in because you're "bored" and TOTALLY not just cause you wanna cheat. Literally just be upfront at the very beginning, search only for people who also want an open relationship. It never ends well any other way because its so often done as a blanket for cheating.

[@TheMimiSard]

Story 1 - As someone who lives with a family member's stuff stored at our place (my brother, Noddy, most of his stuff is in the carport), I don't blame OP for not wanting that, especially when OP has a troubled relationship with them. I get on with Noddy well enough that it is okay, but OP has things worse. I am glad D is innocent in this, she is quite forgivable. I hope OP and D's relationship stays good. I say the NC with parents and sister is valid, especially since it seems they were keeping secrets from OP.

[@TheMimiSard]

Story 2 - GF wanted permission to cheat, but doesn't want OP to have other people. I think this relationship is already broken and OP needs to end it totally.

[@NightcoreNewbie]

2nd story. When are people going to stop being stupid to not realize that once a relationship is opened, you can't just close it again and expect that the relationship will go back to normal? OP should just break up and be with the other girl who makes him feel good rather than the current gf who made him feel like crap. He sounded so much happier with the other girl anyway.

[@mr_cool5923]

when someone says lets do an open relationship that is code for i am cheating and want to have a clean conscience

[@carolscott9330]

getting your own place? I kind of feel like someone told your parents about your house. They came to town because they knew you had the house and wanted to see it. then wanted in it.

[@dindog22]

these "lets open the relationship" stories always end the same way

[@johndoe1059]

It’s been my experience that the second opening up a relationship it’s over. The partner already has someone in mind and just doesn’t want the stigma of being a cheater

[@theseawriter]

Eating rice and waiting for band camp to start. Feeling much better, but still a bit ill. How many people here know how to use chopsticks?

[@carolroberts4614]

Not me! I might as well have 10 thumbs, so with chopsticks I would starve!

[@LisaApril]

I’ve known how since I was very young. My father was in Korea during the Korean War and a Korean family took him under their wing. He taught us with rice when we were young.

[@golden_leader9227]

Me! I went to South Korea and Japan for a long time and i'm passionate about some of their traditions (and food, especially japanese!)

[@browniewin4121]

1) Nope, your parents suck.If they get mad and stay out of your life, all to the good. NTA They are such entitled hypocrites. After update: So glad you found support from comments/ I'm also glad your husband speaks sense and that you finally decided to stop trying to get blood from a stone. Congrats on you pregnancy. Best wished. 2) How weird. Your girlfriend really doesn't want to have a relationship with you, she just wants security of someone she felt she could fall back on but also wanted to have her fun until she realized you might move on and then got scared of loosing her security blanket. Don't close the relationship, end it. You are young, be single and have fun til you feel ready to make a commitment and settle down. After update: Glad you found out how manipulative she was and decided to break up with her.

[@helenbontje15]

As soon as someone wants an open relationship, the relationship is over! EVERYTIME someone wants to open a relationship they already have another relationship going or have one lined up, they just want to have a sure thing by keeping the current one going!

[@AndyyWithAY]

I don't understand what an open relationship is and why people are so eager to have them. If you want to sleep around, just do that. Why do you have to have "an open relationship" in addition to that. And that is not what a pillow princess is.

[@1tiptip187]

Parents are in country and don't tell her. Parents yell about her keeping secrets? That says a lot in and of itself.

[@FearMyLadyBits]

Story 1, I guess that friend's not a friend anymore. Yikes.

[@mainegardenguy703]

NEVER SHOW UP UNNANOUNCED AT SOMEONES HOUSE, ESPECIALLY FAMILY!!!!!!

[@jeancarbonneau6966]

In story 2, whenever someone wants to open up the relationship, that person is usually the one cheating on their partner. OP found this out when he met his girlfriend and broke up with her. It's despicable how people who are interested in opening up a relationship want it so badly. When things don't work for them, here comes the manipulation of the situation. All my ex-girlfriends that I had sex with, they were all dead pillow princesses. They would lay on their backs and just let me do my thing without any sound. Not once did I ever felt good having sex with them. Now I'm single and I will not be able to find a woman who will enjoy having sex with me. Prostitutes and escorts are just as bad as my ex-girlfriends. So, I'm gonna be single.

[@ChrisMaxfieldActs]

It sounds like the problem might be you and your technique, and not the fault of women who failed to be aroused by your "lovemaking."

[@quinhoprimeiro1049]

first OP, Drop that friend... I don't care if they met your own personal goddess, they DO NOT get to invite someone to YOUR house, WTF!

[@philwill0123]

Exactly. Abusive parents have been "invited" and not even a text or call to check? Replace naive with "thick as shit"

[@quinhoprimeiro1049]

@@philwill0123 OMG YES! this exactly this

[@veezopolis]

"I realized the other guy wasn't as good as you." The other guy is her ex, she already had that information

[@sabbby100]

Story 1 NTA you had your reason not to tell your parents that you bought a house.

[@saldiven2009]

This was one of those situations where the person who proposed the open relationship had someone specific in mind they wanted to cheat with, but didn't want to be "cheating." Probably, if he had declined the open relationship, she would have slept with her ex anyway, and then accused him of being controlling if he found out about it. Also, she probably never really thought he'd find anyone else. It probably really shocked her to see with her own eyes that other women found him attractive and that he enjoyed their attention. This is one of those "F around and find out" situations.

[@mrmadness2699]

Thank you Mark, on behalf of open relationship people, for not denigrating us in this video. There’s far too much of that flying around Reddit!

[@maurer3d]

Story 1: NTA, you didn't tell them, for the very reason of exactly what the said when they walked in. For some reason they think your house is somehow theirs to do with as they like. They knew all the info they needed, you moved into a new place.

[@charlesjohnson4332]

That friend is not a friend. The parents are manipulating and controling

[@annabethsmith-kingsley2079]

hey, stop crapping on pillow princesses: that's what some of us like.

[@standinthegsp6858]

If their stuff shows up at your place, tell them your contacting the police... you’ll keep what you want & sell or donate the rest.

[@dustysimpson7864]

Who brought your parents to the house? Cut off contact with that person.

[@Clyde-S-Wilcox]

Story 2: Sounds like she whored around and found out.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

Why is it when partners ask for an open relationship, it’s only fair when they do it, not both of them. It’s almost like they’re asking for permission to sleep around/cheat on their SO without feeling guilty. They honestly give those in open relationship/polyamory a bad name Like we don’t already get enough of that

[@samalvarez8776]

HEY HEY WAFFLE GANG!! I'm at work, listening to Mark to pass the time

[@hilarymurray8741]

Open relationship story : GF asked to open the relationship so she could sleep with her ex. Trouble is, once a couple agree to open a relationship, it is the beginning of the end and there is no going back, really. You might find yourself in an open, close, open, close situation, depending on who one of you wants to sleep with. Fidelity is a given for a loving relationship as it is bound with trust. All that went out the window when you both agreed to sleep with other people. Put it down to experience and never enter into an open relationship with someone you want to stay with.

[@dancing0nthe3dge]

Story 1: omg op, are you me?