WTF Moments in Indycar (Part 27)

[@Caleferink1]

2002 Surfers Paradise was one big WTF.

[@DieKolkrabe]

Agreed, that race was total and utter WTF from start to finish. 2003 more than made up for it though. Kept the streak alive too. Consider that for 15 years nobody won Surfers twice, it was always the most intriguing race of the year IMO wondering if anyone was gonna win twice.

[@LCM2248]

CART post 1995, "Sometimes words just fail me."

[@Altamonteric]

I think 2000-2001 is more abt. That's when the really silly stuff started to happen.

[@GreatCdn59]

Salazar, Takagi, Mazzacane .... part 27 was like the "F1 rejects edition" lol

[@razburry8001]

I mean, at least Salazar won a race

[@villehursti]

@@razburry8001 Not in F1.

[@specialfriend578]

Indycar seems where former F1 drivers go to die

[@bclautz]

4:27 biggest joke in open wheel racing. I have ever seen.

[@AutoRockinRacing94]

King Takagi strikes again

[@wookiedog]

Every time i see Greg Moore my heart crys a little 😥

[@Zeghna]

3:30 the greatest future driver, maybe world champion!!! RIP Greg Moore

[@709mash]

I miss Greg Moore. Great driver, and genuinely nice guy. RIP.

[@DieKolkrabe]

For The 500 thing...it's not actually a WTF and more of a legal thing. Marlboro had a huge presence in CART at the time and their signage was everywhere but due to the Master Settlment Agreement, it couldn't be mentioned or shown on TV at all, hence CART went with The 500 instead and dropped the Marlboro name to comply with the law. Same deal with Michigan, Marlboro was the title sponsor for a long while but in the early 90s the TV networks simply called it the Michigan 500 to not promote cigarette firms. Go look at any post 1998 CART race, and note how many times a cigarette firm is mentioned. It's not as many as pre MSA. Also, the same MSA prevented Kyle Busch from running in the 2001 Truck race due to Marlboro's involvement, and once again they were never mentioned by name, but the signage was shown...however the argument there was it was newsworthy...which it was. So, no WTF moment for The 500. Also....actually, Marlboro sponsored the Miami race at Homestead for CART and Toyota was the official title sponsor on TV for The Grand Prix of Miami.Lastly...the Marlboro logos and colors were still on the event logo if nyone looked hard enough. And in 1999, Forsythe actually removed their Players cigarette branding from the cars in that race, and in 2000 too to comply with the laws on cigarette advertising. So there you go.

[@The52car]

I think the WTF is more related to the silver painted man.

[@BlackBlur14]

Of course King Takagi would enter pit lane like that...

[@TNNSports94]

Gidley seeking revenge on Papis for the Driven movie I see

[@dcpatmon]

1:30 how

[@stevemoore12]

"The 500" aka The "no title sponsor found" 500

[@DieKolkrabe]

Nope, it was down to the fact the title sponsor (Marlboro) couldn't actually be shown on TV due to the laws on cigarette firms after the Master Settlement Agreement took effect, it limited what the cigarette makers could or couldn't do on TV and advertising. Short version: Marlboro could put up their signs and fund Penske. Couldn't be mentioned on TV or have their signage shown on TV except on Penske cars. IIRC there was a rule in place for the TV networks stating they were not legally allowed to mention cigarette firms unless there was no other option. For instance, Marlboro Penske became Penske or Team Penske on broadcasts, or the red and white Penske cars. Same with Forsythe, they...wel....stayed Forsythe. Team KOOL green was Team Green, and so forth. Actually, the Team Green cars always looked awesome and simple, so did the Penskes. NASCAR got into a problem due to there not being any other Cup sponsor at the time so they had to mention Winstion, even thogh technically it was against the laws post MSA.

[@stevemoore12]

Ahh. I never knew that. It makes a lot more sense now. Thanks for sharing

[@mzxrules]

looked up the 2002 Honda Indy 300, had only 8 laps of green flag racing, average lap speed was 55.8 MPH.

[@ChucksPullingVideos]

All those people standing between the walls at 0:24?! Lol glad safety has improved since then.. wow.

[@nascargo19thesecond]

Charles Russell I don't know why anybody ever thought that was a good idea.

[@allied_forces_310]

Who are those people right there on the wall called.

[@The52car]

For most of Indy history, this is how you got information to the driver. Radios have since replaced the sign boards.

[@krzie18]

WHAT'S DA MATTA WITH YOU?

[@Chives5150]

God damn Salad Bar.

[@jraybay]

Chives5150 lol

[@MarkVerstappen93]

On what track is the incident of 3:34? I usually got an idea of the track it could be on but my closest guess on thia one is Road America which I dont think it is.

[@Mario_Ramirez]

Mark Verstappen it is RA

[@The52car]

Just after Canada Corner, the run up to turn 13 "thunder valley." It looks different today because the bridge is no longer there.

[@CanadaCornrow]

BlackCavalier52 I was there when it happened. The corner worker got a rather loud chorus of boos from the crowd. Everybody was screaming for the the guy to wave the yellow flag as soon as Moore spun out but he just sat there like a dunce.

[@nicolepowell7811]

1:29 he's like I'm a fucken tow truck duuuuuuu

[@111820nascar]

Biggest WTF moment from this video is the name of the race in the last clip. "The 500"

[@Altamonteric]

The "sponsor didn't pay the network" 500

[@SergioBello95]

You made my day hahahaha :v

[@DieKolkrabe]

No, the sponsor was a cigarette company that couldn't sponsor the race due to legal issues (see my comment aboe for more info) so CART had to rename the event to comply with laws on tobacco adverts. Basically in 1998 the cigarette firms were forced to cut back on advertising. Hence The 500. Dumb name, but completely and utterly understandable why when you understand the title sponsor and the law.

[@Altamonteric]

Yeah i actually completely forgot about that. The "potential lawsuit" 500 then. :P

[@AlonsoRules]

Gaston Mazzacane was one of the worst drivers in racing history

[@chofer205]

Anthony Kernich was? He still racing today, and still being a bad driver. pd: (problably i've spell everything wrong, sorry)

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Studio 404 De La Rosa did not drive for Prost in 2001, he drove for Jaguar

[@RACECAR]

"What is this? Sometimes words fail me" Pretty much nailed it after seeing that...sight. I was pretty fine not remembering that, lol.

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

Jesus, that wet race at Surfers Paradise '02 was a pure shit-show.

[@controlpadblues]

The slo-mo of the aerial view of the incident at 0:43 is messed up - you can clearly see Gugelmin's still-spinning rear tire catch Carpentier's helmet and whip it forward. It took them a while to get Pat out of the car, IIRC.

[@SpongeyTheEditor]

That Australia race shouldn't been run anyway. Postponed til Monday.

[@Caleferink1]

AntonyBlalock I remember this one well. They had to run that day because (a) I think the city required them to reopen the roads to regular traffic the following day and (b) CART was scheduled to race at Fontana the very next weekend.

[@MainMite06]

if u watch the replay of '2002 CART Surfers Paradise' you'll witness the broadcasters informing the viewers that this race could not be postponed the following Monday because CART signed a contract saying that they must deconstrct the course back into public road after the race was over... CART was so stupid in scheduling so much street courses that they have minimal control over!

[@Sacriphyx]

Huh?

[@SpectralUmbreon197]

Rice and Wheldon, How?

[@kevshearer1997]

What race was the 41-lap controversy?

[@Bubbles23XI]

LandonFandon38 Surfer's Paradise 2002

[@DavidLand91]

The race that started with an enormous 10 car pileup

[@Bubbles23XI]

David Land that was also CART's last straw

[@jeffgordonfan2462]

Ax44248 M last straw?

[@Bubbles23XI]

jeffgordonfan2462 CART screwed up big time in this event, a lot of inconsistencies.

[@UmpaX2]

Gaston Mazzacane was a WTF all by himself.

[@NokiaCupSeries]

#bringbackNashville

[@AlonsoRules]

#bringbackChicago #bringbackFontana #bringinCOTA

[@BeanDip96_]

#PleaseNoCOTA

[@ryang1591]

@@BeanDip96_ YA GOT COTA

[@BeanDip96_]

Ryan G And if they can make it work I will be overjoyed. But we shall see. Going to be hard to fill that place but if they find a good promoter you never know.

[@BlacktoothgrinUA]

What was the race where Takagi had spinned through the pits? Motegi? Cannot recall that moment.

[@NascarNixon]

2002 Fontana

[@jraybay]

Lol at the thumbnail

[@92_orsomething]

2:01 when the person standing in the car points forwards but the car goes backwards

[@pacecrosser4340]

I was thinking of a topic where a teammate blames another teammate in some kind of situation in NASCAR.

[@mariaampilova]

That last one I thought it was a dream

[@oderalon]

2:53 so Mazzacane left his mark on Indycar as well...

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

Greg Moore could have been Jeff Gordon for IndyCar.

[@devonmartinez780]

5:20 literally F1 this year

[@RebelTXWrestling]

Gaston Mazzacane has to be one of worst drivers in racing. His money took him far in F1 and CART. CART blatantly fixed the Australia race because the drivers and teams that were ahead before Mario Dominguez were leaving for Indycar or NASCAR the following season. They fix it for one of CART "guys" to win the race. More embarrassing that Mario Dominguez first words when he crossed the line was "Does that mean we win?" Mario can thank CART for gifting him the win. He couldn't qualify Indy 500 in several tries after the unification

[@stevennewman8276]

What does WTF stand for?

[@LuizFelipeVilela]

27? Oh yes!

[@Nxtl68]

That gold coast race should not have started.

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

Paul Page is the goat

[@Ibelikemj]

Wheldon was clearly at the wrong, where was Buddy going to go to?

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

Memo Gidley deserved better

[@Edlar89]

Indy car seems to be where F1 rejects go

[@adambradshaw86]

Salazar, Mazzacane, Takagi - no end of washed up F1 drivers.

[@juanmanuelbonzano]

I still don't underground how Mazzacane got a seat in ChampCar or any form of motorsport after he got his ass kicked out of F1. PD: I'm Argentinean too.

[@pvincent8100]

Gaston Mazzacane....

[@markdinkel9006]

Why not wth moments. Clean it up boys

[@BillehBobJoe]

i don't know anything about american open wheel racing, i keep hearing this saladbar man and his terrible driving, i'm shocked to see it happen

[@NickeyMouse]

First!

[@gone-sovereign]

*tosses blue shell*

[@degabruh_]

3rd

[@michaelcanney7218]

Weak