Never-before-seen footage from ‘Rust’ set obtained

[@linkjourney422]

I don’t know how this goes to proving that Baldwin was reckless. In fact you could argue that based off the footage when Baldwin knows the gun is loaded he is very precautious. He at one point ask the DP (I’m presuming) if she would stand on the opposite side from where he would shoot his prop gun. All I’m seeing here is that Baldwin when aware of his gun being loaded tries to make sure people are in a safe location.

[@TheSpr90]

Yea that's weird I don't get it I was thinking the same thing.

[@Bsavvymusic]

It’s a very strange situation of a real bullet being on set and then you as an actor having to shoot the gun and someone gets accidentally killed. It’s hard to believe someone can be found guilty

[@linkjourney422]

@@Amanda-lw9kq the “I don’t want to shoot you” moment was on a different day, on a different scene, and was in an instance when Baldwin was fully aware that he carried a loaded gun. The incident in question was on a day that Baldwin was told by his armorer and his 1st AD that the gun was not loaded. On top of that he was told by the director and the DP to aim the gun at the camera so they could frame the shot correctly. In other words simply screaming “BuT hE PoINtED tHe GUN aT HEr” does absolutely nothing in proving that he acted recklessly. Especially when Baldwin believed the gun was not loaded bases off of what the gun expert on set told him, and that fact that he was directed to point the gun at the camera. If your gonna continue with the whole “he aimed a gun at someone” than I’m just gonna say your arguing in bad faith and have nothing else to say to you. Period

[@coltenh581]

I agree with your general analysis. Maybe they are arguing for intentional murder then is my thought? But this presented it as retrying the manslaughter charges so that wouldn’t make sense at all.

[@sudehakhatri6338]

It was at the initial videos. In latter videos, he stopped doing it.

[@powertothetubers456]

This was the ultimate hiccup that costed a cast member their life and someone needs to be held accountable. The biggest question is how did a live round even get loaded into a prop gun on a movie set? Smh absolutely mindboggling!!

[@YernBelfus400]

Why would you think that matters?

[@mrose3468]

Crew member not cast member but whatever

[@powertothetubers456]

@@YernBelfus400 What do you mean?

[@powertothetubers456]

@@mrose3468 "Tomatoe" "Tomytoe"

[@mrose3468]

@@powertothetubers456 tommy toe

[@adamseidel9780]

How on earth does footage showing him being careful and following professional precautions make him MORE guilty?

[@YernBelfus400]

You didn't see all of the video. All you saw was a few seconds of it.

[@TheHikingLion]

I believe it has to do with safety protocols in place in the “Movie Industry”. There’s a standard of safety and if it’s broken then criminal negligence might be at play.

[@lmoneydizzle]

It shows that he was well versed in gun safety on the set. on the day in question, when there just happened to be a real round in the gun, he aimed the weapon directly at the crew and pulled the trigger.

[@jeffgross6102]

Quite simple, It shows that he knew better.

[@guylanctot4395]

It shows he perjured himself when he stated that he never pulled the trigger when the gun “went off”

[@manza19cm]

I stand behind Alec Baldwin. Standing in front of him is way too dangerous. 😂

[@stefaniacontessa]

😂😂

[@kamoteph273]

🤣

[@justincase5272]

I'd rather be three states away. Every time he visits NM, I start getting nervous. He really should keep himself locked up tight in New York City.

[@brianalbee4153]

The biggest question I have, is how did a live round ever get on set or near a prop gun? If a gun is a prop, it shouldn't ever be used otherwise. Did someone take the props out and "play" with them? Or was this something more sinister? I think Baldwin is a colossal clown but I have more questions here than answers

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

They were all shooting for fun during the whole filming. You must have short term memory loss.

[@hollywoodcole3678]

Plus they had a woman checking the firearms before shooting 😂

[@andrexbeta2575]

​@@spiritualawakenings6251you are saying that the team of the movie were playing with live rounds during the filming of it? You are kidding??

[@time4me2fly94]

Props are different from actual real guns. The person in charged of the real weapons is called an armorer. Props provides the holster. In this case, the armorer was not informed Alec was using the real gun. The man who lied about inspecting the gun took a plea deal. Alec neglected to visually watch the inspection as he was required to do. Had both men done their jobs the bullets would have been discovered. Had Alec not forced Hannah to work 2 jobs she would have been able to inspect all the bullets and find the live ones. She has all of this in writing. Alec failed on many levels, especially as producer. Hannah is going to bury him at her trial. Then he'll bury himself at his own trial. Justice for Halyna.

[@andrexbeta2575]

@@time4me2fly94 come on! You cant just really think someone like Baldwin its really gonna face some kind of serious consequences by this isnt? I mean, if by "justice" you mean 1 year top on a low security jail... maybe, yes. MAYBE. Thats all the "justice" you could expect be fall upon an actor like Baldwin.

[@takashiross8553]

Based on Alec’s not wanting to fire blanks in the direction of the crew it leads me to think if he pointed a gun towards the camera he’d have done so believing the gun was empty. Still, if he’s that conscious I wonder why he didn’t check the weapon, or why the prop manager didn’t check the weapon before handing it off. Gun safety 101 says to always assume a gun is loaded until you know it isn’t.

[@williamswilliams8164]

There’s no until you know it isn’t You don’t point a loaded or unloaded gun at anyone ever Hunters safety course mentions this 100 times and is the golden rule

[@JennyLouLou]

Exactly. It's a horrible tragedy that should of and easily could have been prevented. I'm sure he will carry the regret forever.

[@takashiross8553]

@@williamswilliams8164 I don’t disagree but in a movie you have a reason to point a “gun” at the camera. Still, it’s weird that they didn’t use a prop for that shot.

[@michaeljung4398]

This happened at the movie set. Guns are supposed to be pointed at the people. That is the prop guns. Not the real gun.

[@sandozdelysid]

All guns are always loaded.

[@ChipSkylark696]

I don’t ever intend to protect any murderer but this doesn’t seem like a chargeable offense, it seems like a very poorly mismanaged props department who handed someone a loaded weapon and told him he could shoot it? It’s not like this happened outside of a film set. If anyone should be held responsible its the one who prepared the weapon for filming

[@fungdark8270]

Exactly, people acting like this happened on the street or in someone’s house are insane

[@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting]

I agree, but I think the point is that he’s being prosecuted more for his role as a Producer of the film (who is responsible for things like the culture of overall safety on set) as opposed to merely his role as the person who pulled the trigger. As a Producer, he’d be responsible for ensuring his staff - including those in the Props department - have ample safety measures in place. I agree that this footage doesn’t reveal any further evidence of negligence (to my eyes anyways), but I think that’s how prosecutors are framing the case

[@JTMaster]

Y'all need to learn what involuntary manslaughter means.

[@michaelplunkett8059]

Why live ammo, not blanks on a movie set? You can shoot the bullets hitting dirt by prop people as it is a reverse angle.

[@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting]

@@michaelplunkett8059 Right, that's the question at the center of the entire case

[@iride4425]

To be honest, what you just show to us proves that he was very cautious and considerated of the people working around him. He even said he didn't want to shoot towards people and for them to move.

[@bonanzatime]

That means he killed that poor woman On Purpose. That's called Murder.

[@bunnerrean]

​@@bonanzatimeit wasn't his gun or his job to load it, how can you intentionally murder someone if you don't think the gun works

[@brandonlanois1734]

@@bonanzatime It means exactly the opposite. :D

[@skoy21]

@@bonanzatime You a flat Earther? You sound like one...

[@karlhans6678]

@@bonanzatime go hug a grizzly bear.

[@bobcat3842]

Alec said it himself… he was told the gun was empty… that was the fatal mistake that he made. He threw a cardinal rule of gun handling to the way side. Never take anyone’s word for it, check the gun for yourself… always

[@YernBelfus400]

You are correct. And then after failing to check the gun, Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety by pointing a firearm at innocent people, manually cocking the hammer all the way back, putting his finger on the trigger, and pulling it. If Baldwin had done any ONE thing correctly, he wouldn't have killed his victim.

[@j-dub8399]

I 100% agree with your point. Was the gun “empty” as Baldwin claims? Or were there blanks in it? If it was supposed to be 100% empty then you are right. If he was handed a gun with blanks loaded, then that’s a bit trickier as most people when checking their firearm wouldn’t be able to discern the difference between a blank and a regular cartridge without taking them all out for inspection.

[@kevkeisha]

The gun shouldn't have the ability to fire a bullet. This was the fault of the person or people in charge of the props. Simple.

[@YernBelfus400]

@@kevkeisha Baldwin was the producer. Baldwin specified that a real firearm be used.

[@bobcat3842]

@@kevkeisha did you catch the hairdo on the armorer? 😂

[@RhinoStompin]

Prop guns should require triangular shaped charges not cylindrical.

[@Chris-717]

Even though the gun couldn't be fired without pulling the trigger, he actually said he did not pull the trigger. Unbelievable..

[@jpwiggo]

Very possible. I have and worked on this same model of pistol It's a simple single action and if he pulls the hammer back it's possible that it dropped. Especially in movie props where they sear down the trigger to give it an easier pull. Yet IMHO he was probably holding the trigger back when he pulled the hammer and it dropped on him.

[@YernBelfus400]

​​​@@jpwiggo Wrong. Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills with firearms. Pietta revolvers use a transfer bar safety- unless the trigger is pulled, there is nothing you can do with the hammer to cause the weapon to fire.

[@chaddompierre5779]

​@@jpwiggo You're ignorant

[@israelarana5283]

Sometimes guns can fire on their own, especially if firing pin has been over oiled. I think this is a management issue. The gun safety crew should've been there advising. This can easily happen and I don't think anyone had any malicious intent.

[@chaddompierre5779]

@@israelarana5283 with that logic. He was still pointing the weapon in someone's direction, AND didn't check to see if the gun was loaded with the proper equipment. Also Pietta revolvers (the one he used) has a safety that requires the trigger to be pulled. He failed multiple rules of gun safety and it cost someone their life. HE'S responsible

[@Squirrel-Chaser]

Why is there any live ammo on a set... This is straight up Idiocracy.

[@YernBelfus400]

Why would you think that would matter?

[@Squirrel-Chaser]

@@YernBelfus400 if you don't understand that simple comment, you may need to reevaluate your thought processes.

[@YernBelfus400]

@@Squirrel-Chaser Stop deflecting. Why would you think that live ammo mattered? I have live ammo with me everywhere I go, and I've never shot an innocent person.

[@Squirrel-Chaser]

@@YernBelfus400 deflecting what? If you can't understand that live ammunition should not be on a movie set where guns are being fired, you're delusional. Cool bro, you carry ammo with you everywhere, aren't you "awesome". Your personal choices have nothing to do with movie set safety 🤦

[@YernBelfus400]

@@Squirrel-Chaser I didn't say that live ammo should be on movie sets. Stop deflecting. Why do YOU think it would matter?

[@dianedavis324]

He said i don't want to shoot towards you!

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

THEN WHY DID HE SHOOT TOWARDS HALYNA???

[@Heroball299]

No, he said I GOING to shoot you. It was a total power play

[@AndrewDaniele87]

​@@kentuckybowl-o-sticksthese could have been practice scenes where they used guns with blanks just to get a feel for the scene. In production the guns could be completely empty and the smoke / fire / sound added in after, in that case if the gun is empty, why not aim it wherever? (There's an assumed chain of responsibility too, the actor doesn't even need to question the gun he's holding)

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

@@AndrewDaniele87 "why not aim it wherever?" Because of the FIRST RULE. I was given my first rifle at age four... nearly SIXTY years ago. And I have NEVER pointed a firearm... loaded OR unloaded... at ANYONE. Being an actor in a film doesn't exempt you from the RULE. A true "prop gun" that is inert/incapable of firing? FINE. But not an actual, functional FIREARM.

[@AndrewDaniele87]

@kentuckybowl-o-sticks I'm sure you've seen a film before where both actors are in the same shot, the shooter and the one being shot, and the shooter is pointing directly at the other actor. How can we explain that? I.e. John Wick films, if you look at the behind the scenes, he's pulling that trigger and that gun is pointed right at the stuntmens' chests

[@masonkanterbury3007]

Gun "experts" saying that you never should hold a gun without checking if it's loaded, that's flawed logic because you're not supposed to point it anyone either. This was a movie set not a firing range. There are not supposed to be any bullets, just blanks. Actors have to point guns at cameras all the time. The one at fault was the stage manager.

[@cosmoplakat9549]

Agreed. There wouldn't be guns in movies at all if the actor is left responsible for checking. What they need to do is use actual fake guns (surely SOMEONE can make a real-looking fake gun on a 3-D printer) with a smoke-filled pellet that pops when they pull the "trigger." Then, dub in the sound later. Voila, nobody would ever die from that.

[@SassyDramaQueen123]

Correct the stage manager and the prop masters

[@RC-qf3mp]

Wrong. Actors are not above the law when it comes to gun safety. Imagine these were college kids making a crappy amateur film. The same law applies. Imagine it’s a gang just screwing around to make a KZbin video. Same laws apply. A gun is an “inherently dangerous” weapon and special laws apply. A gun is not a toy. The state of New Mexico did not sign Alex Baldwin’s agreement with movie producers. In fact, Baldwin IS a producer so he has extra accountability as an actor and producer. People who know nothing about guns or the duties of handling a firearm defend Baldwin. Totally clueless about the law. Baldwin not above the law. The video shows Bladwin’s complete disregard for basic gun safety. It’s his duty to make sure the gun isn’t loaded with real bullets regardless of whatever private contracts he has with other people on set. Civil contracts do not trump state criminal law. You obviously aren’t a lawyer or a responsible gun owner. And Baldwin has the audacity to lecture other people about gun safety when he has no clue himself. The arrogance.

[@NameIsDoc]

Blanks are lethal at that range. And it is required to check.

[@NameIsDoc]

⁠Actually yes Alec is lead producer on set. His job is to ensure everything goes smoothly. In prior cases where similar thing happened the highest authority can be held liable...and as acting producer on set that can be him. Now it isn't like he can't deligate these tasks to others however the individuals themselves must also take part in the safety process

[@jamesmacarthur6104]

He is solely responsible for that killing

[@YernBelfus400]

Bingo.

[@alec6583]

He sounds so consciously safe in the clip. I want to know more about the armorer's credentials.

[@YernBelfus400]

The armorers credentials have nothing to do with Baldwin choosing to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointing a loaded firearm at innocent people, manually cocking the hammer all the way back, putting his finger on the trigger, and pulling it.

[@gavinhay6627]

The armourer doesn't have credentials other than she's the daughter of a popular film armourer. Total newb.

[@alec6583]

​@YernBelfus400 ... uh, no, but the fact that he was shooting a movie does have to do with him breaking every one of those rules.

[@YernBelfus400]

@@alec6583 Firearms safety rules apply everywhere, all the time. Movie-making is not some alternative universe where firearms safety rules don't apply.

[@AlyxCoe]

Watch the police interview with the armorer Hannah Gutierrez.

[@michaeljung4398]

Why was there real bullets at the set? At the set. Not to mention the gun. Why would anyone want to have a real gun at the set? Prop gun somehow became a real gun? Firing pin could be removed. Why real gun?

[@dbadagna]

Members of the crew and cast had been "plinking" beer cans for fun in the desert near the film set, using live ammunition (and some of the weapons used on set).

[@springbloom5940]

Because the Producer and Director failed to implement and enforce industry safety protocols.

[@time4me2fly94]

​@@springbloom5940Producer Alec Baldwin and his friend Dave Halls the AD. The same Dave Halls who admitted he lied about inspecting the bullets prior to handing Alec the gun. The gun Alec did not visually confirm was properly inspected as he was required to do. Yes, you're correct. Those 2 were the worst at following all IATSE safety protocols. They put everyone's lives at risk. Crew walked off due to fear for their lives. Halls was smart to take a plea. Hannah is going to trial so her depositions will be very interesting. Alec will end up in prison. Exactly where he belongs.

[@time4me2fly94]

Alec chose the gun himself. It was an antique Colt revolver with no modifications. He knew exactly what was in his hand. People make mistakes. That's why the gun and each bullet must be inspected by the armorer before and after the use of the weapon. Alec forced the armorer, Hannah, to work 2 jobs, against regulations. She repeatedly told him she can't do that, it's not safe, and she must focus on weapons 100%. He ignored her concerns. Had he let her do her job she would have discovered the bullets. Had Dave Halls actually inspected the gun he would have discovered the bullets. Had Alec visually watched the inspection he would have discovered the bullets. Halyna would be alive if Alec had just done his job properly as actor & producer.

[@dbadagna]

@@time4me2fly94 Also, dummy rounds make a distinct noise when shaken, whereas live ammo is basically silent.

[@Detvanliga]

The armorer did not do her job. Simple as that! .

[@darrylg3861]

My dads words " don't ever point a gun at someone unless you plan on killing them."

[@DortonFarb]

Your dad was a smart man.

[@The_Ballo]

SAG rules: Don't point a gun at someone.

[@GanymedeXD]

@@The_BalloWhat nonsense … did you read them! It also says to follow directions of the armorer and responsible crew members. The gun line has a complete different relevance if the gun is specifically prepared for a scene where the gun is pointed at the cam and cocked … SAG also says about lifting heavy objects to clear the path and never jump obstacles with it … but this becomes irrelevant if you are shooting exactly such a scene!

[@The_Ballo]

@@GanymedeXD SAG has exacting rules when it comes to a scene that calls for pointing a gun at someone. The reason is because there have been many gun-related accidents while filming movies and serials.

[@cernst29]

Alec baldwin should not be charged at all, this is absolutely ridiculous

[@fdodmanmunad5534]

She probably knew something he didn’t want other people to know.

[@YernBelfus400]

What the heck are you talking about?

[@Spacecrust]

​@YernBelfus400 I think they've already said to much....end this transmission

[@benjaminreynolds3780]

qanon nonsense.@@YernBelfus400

[@chaddompierre5779]

#1 treat EVERY gun as if its loaded. He should have checked himself, it would of taken 20 seconds, and she would still be alive. Such a shame that actors apparently are too important to follow gun safety.

[@YernBelfus400]

It would have taken about six seconds to verify that it was empty. Even then, Baldwin chose to ignore every single basic rule of firearms safety by pointing a firearm at innocent people, manually cocking the hammer all the way back, putting his finger on the trigger, and pulling it.

[@BrandonBiek]

He had this concern on Those days maybe, but lacked that same concern the day of the shooting. We've convicted parents for not properly handling and checking the safety and location of their weapons inside and out EVERY day. All it took was the one time they didnt. Alec didn't perform the proper gun safety procedures on the day and pointed and "pulled" the trigger in the direction of people.

[@abdulnorthamericanvlogs8017]

She had just one job to check the gun and she didn’t 😢

[@otismcdrunknstuff6875]

“I was told, I was handed an empty gun? “ I assume he’s never had a basic gun safety course.. Every gun is loaded until you check yourself. Feel a little bad he’s so ignorant. That’s involuntary manslaughter.

[@hotman718]

Live round in a gun while filming a movie should never happen under any circumstances. This stuff needs to be double, triple checked for safety. Fatal accidents happen because of extreme negligence. It's extremely tragic yet very easily avoidable. Someone didn't do their job and someone paid the price with their life as a result.

[@DortonFarb]

Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it, killing his victim through his own negligence.

[@JojosOasis]

Honestly, a life was taken which is the saddest part of it all. I do however believe that he acted with precaution and the standards he’s being held to, we don’t even hold our own law enforcement to it.

[@MountainBikeTx]

LE know they have a loaded firearm. They check and ensure they are. Alec should have checked to ensure he wasn’t

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

Law enforcement protects and serves. Alec Baldwin acts and has a known temper.

[@jeffpatterson8633]

Had he acted with precaution she wouldn't be dead

[@toddsmith1969]

He's there to read lines, isn't a propmaster.

[@MountainBikeTx]

@@toddsmith1969 then he shouldn’t be handling potentially dangerous items, should he? The fact is, he bears responsibility both because of his position in the production, and the fact that it was literally in his hands.

[@eddiebulan5634]

Rule number one when handling a firearm you check to see if theres one in the chamber or if it's loaded

[@chaddompierre5779]

Treat EVERY gun as if it's loaded.

[@GanymedeXD]

This makes zero sense! It’s a revolver! And Baldwin was not able to see if dummy’s for closeups, blanks or live. As was said … the dummy’s and live ones are identical, the shaking sound is different it’s no shooting range and it’s not about checking if empty or not.

[@tripjet999]

Try making a film WITHOUT guns and ammo, which should be BANNED EVERYWHERE!

[@dianedavis324]

I don't care for celebs. If anyone is charged the one who's job it was to control the guns should be. Not him as this video proves he took precautions. Unless this was shot after the fact. I mean you just never know!

[@audreymai2773]

There was no after the fact. All filming stopped when those 2 people were shot that day.

[@tonymarino1730]

The person responsible of loading the gun is responsible. Not the person firing it. And I really don’t like this actor at all but it’s not he’s fault. It’s the person that put the bullets in it. Clearly it shows blanks where used.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol. Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area. Loading a gun is not a crime. Killing someone through negligence IS a crime. Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it, killing his victim through his own negligence.

[@ceciliaSF-TX]

Alec, as producer, ignored basic protocols around using guns as he refused to do the training & cuz he was the boss (he just ignored the protocols). The first armourer quit cuz of that. This lady is the second armourer. And she was ignored, too. So, as producer and the person who refused to do a gun training, ignores protocol, and pulled the trigger, yeah - he should be charged.

[@sleepnomore6065]

Well, when you put it THAT way.... you just swayed THIS fake juror! Case closed!

[@davidallen3895]

I don’t care about anything, he should have checked the firearm himself

[@dbadagna]

There's no footage of the crew members "plinking" beer cans in the desert near the film set, using live ammunition (and some of the same weapons used on set)?

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

Uhhh not yet

[@VirginiaWolf88]

It’s his job to check the gun regardless of who hands it to him or what anyone says.

[@robertstein6247]

Not when ur handed a prop gun dude. Come on

[@VirginiaWolf88]

@@robertstein6247 With all due respect. I stand by what I wrote. I have friends in this field and we talked about this extensively. It is up to the person with the gun to check it Again. They are trained in this. The reason that the training goes over checking the gun repeatedly is to prevent this scenario. It never should have happened.

[@tw8464]

Exactly same for all of us he's NO "exception"

[@tw8464]

​@@VirginiaWolf88you're absolutely right. And if he couldn't check a gun himself he had absolutely no business holding a REAL gun. I still don't know why on earth they're using real guns. In this day and age, it's totally unnecessary. We need to question the entire decision making process and hold those in charge of the mess all accountable. They shouldn't be using real guns. Even if they handed him a prop he's responsible for checking it to make sure no one snuck in a real gun.

[@YernBelfus400]

​@@robertstein6247 Wrong. Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area.

[@aalfonso1981]

I don’t see how these clips prove he’s guilty. If anything it’s the opposite. I still firmly believe it was the armorer

[@YernBelfus400]

Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area. The job of an armorer is to inventory and maintain firearms, which she did just fine- Baldwin's gun didn't get lost, and it operated perfectly. Armorers are not RSOs (Range Safety Officers). And neither armorers nor RSOs are responsible for what other people choose to do with a firearm. Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety by pointing a loaded firearm at innocent people, manually cocking the hammer all the way back, putting his finger on the trigger, and pulling it, killing his victim through his own negligence.

[@trevorhodges5232]

The real question in this case is whether you charge someone with murder for a tragic accident they obviously didn't intend on committing. It was reckless for the gun to be pointed at another person but to put someone away for a considerably long time for a common mistake is the real debate here.

[@trevorhodges5232]

@@_not_sure_ Agreed

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

Manslaughter...

[@starjen222]

That’s what manslaughter literally is

[@nerfgunner2327]

Common mistake? Do you shoot people on a regular basis? Lol

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

If it were your daughter killed you would be singing a different tune.

[@tomstevenson1396]

The case has to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. Even if he knew the gun was loaded it’s proving it that will be impossible. So he will get away with murder literally. Acting irresponsibly with firearms isn’t illegal so this is pointless fuel to the fire. The only person who will get jailed is the armoury woman who gave him the gun that was loaded. There is zero reason to have live rounds on a movie set and that was her mistake

[@Jasonlords]

We need a "Baldwin law" that would make hunter safety a requirement to move passed elementary shool. It's insanely scary how many people are so completely ignorant when it comes to firearms...

[@dwil0311]

Hunters safety would have changed nothing. The rules of wielding a gun don’t apply on a movie set. You necessarily are going to break the rules on a movie set.

[@Jasonlords]

@@dwil0311 No. There is never a necessary moment to not be safe with guns. People will die as a result, which is exactly what happened. Are idiots getting away with thinking in such an asinine way? Clearly. Anyone with a conscience, brain, and good upbringing (with respect to guns) would refuse to point a gun at anyone just because they're filming a movie (which they weren't btw, just setting up the lights, which a stand in normally does. No need for a gun whatsoever let alone for him to pull the trigger).

[@dwil0311]

@@Jasonlords I agree that there is never a moment to not be safe with guns. But you can be safe with guns while breaking gun safety rules, assuming everyone is song their job. One of the gun safety rules is “treat every gun as if it’s loaded.” Would you ever fail a movie with a gun loaded with live ammo? I’m assuming your answer is no, I’ll give you the benefit of doubt. So then we agree that by necessity, filing a movie requires you to break gun safety rules. Case closed.

[@YernBelfus400]

​@@dwil0311 Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area. Basic firearms safety rules apply everywhere, all the time, even in movie-making.

[@dwil0311]

@@YernBelfus400 Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in the area of movie making. What you just said is untrue. What's the number 1 rule of gun safety? Treat every gun as if it's loaded. Would you make a movie with a gun loaded with live ammunition? No. Therefore, by the simple fact of a gun existing on set, you aren't treating it as if it's loaded, thereby breaking one of the rules of gun safety. Yet movies are still made with firearms. Basic firearm safety rules don't apply everywhere, all the time.

[@SerLebronOfHouseLakers]

I’m gonna say it. I don’t think he should be charged for this. I don’t see how this is anyone else’s fault other than the armorer’s.

[@DortonFarb]

That's because you know nothing. The job of an armorer is to inventory and maintain firearms, and she did that just fine- Baldwin's gun didn't get lost, and it functioned perfectly. Armorers are not RSOs (Range Safety Officers). And neither armorers nor RSOs are responsible for what other people choose to do with a firearm. Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it, killing his victim through his own negligence..

[@tylagarcia4091]

Sad situation 😢

[@lettycontreras7074]

Finally justice for Helena.

[@ericwooten2882]

Did anyone think about using fake guns? Using a gun that can shoot is stupid. It’s not necessary.

[@whoisharo4689]

I dont get it... if he said things like "i dont want to shoot towards you", then wouldnt he be vindicated?

[@FriedGatoraid]

I would rather be the one gone than having to deal with this crap. What a nightmare.

[@Millymollymandy121]

You should have checked it anyway pal!!

[@mattmarzula]

The fact that it was all caught on film and no one has been found guilty after all this time is astounding.

[@alricthered226]

What does the film show? It shows Alec Baldwin wielding a gun that had blanks in it. What this film is showing is not the same time of the accident.

[@chaddompierre5779]

​@@alricthered226 you're OBVIOUSLY wrong... she got shot with a bullet 😂

[@alricthered226]

@@chaddompierre5779 : That video is _not_ of that time of that scene. At the time of the death of the cinematographer, they weren't filming. They were setting up a shot.

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

​@@alricthered226Even more reason for him to be charged, if they weren't filming then he should not have pulled the trigger

[@alricthered226]

@@MentokTheMindTaker: Let's face it, you're partisan stupid and logic has nothing to do with your thinking. There's no rule about not pulling the trigger during a set-up shot. The idea is to examine the dramatic impact of it. You people want to move the bar around and make Baldwin guilty of something.

[@RallyWrex]

He knows nothing about gun safety he needs to be charged. You always check. And why fire a firearm when you aren't even filming. It's still a gun. Unloaded, loaded , or filled with blanks. I keep my guns unloaded but I always always check before ever pulling a trigger!

[@damienkearns3654]

A gun expert said very early on in this case - "the gun is incapable of firing "WITHOUT" pulling the trigger. He's lying about that part.

[@randomsthingsandstuff9285]

I'm confused on why he's getting charged. He was doing his job and unfortunately the gun was loaded and that poor woman lost her life. But wasn't it an accident?

[@YernBelfus400]

Yes, you are confused. Baldwin is being charged, because he chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it, killing his victim through his own negligence.

[@MrRufusjax]

Send him to prison.

[@thehotone12]

He needs to be charged! Needed to check it you fool! Killer

[@3644Darrell]

Just leave it already. He didn't know the gun was loaded. He wasn't on a firing range. Why was there any real bullets on the set in the first place? Maybe place the blame on that individual. He is just an actor; he's not an armorer or a firearms expert. If a gun has blanks in it, you have to take the shells out and look at every single one of them to see if there is a projectile on the end. They both have shell casings. It wasn't his job

[@RC-qf3mp]

You are confusing “his job” with respect to his private contracts with the movie producers (incidentally, he’s a producer) and his duties under state criminal law. The state of New Mexico did not sign a contract with Baldwin allowing him to disregard the law. He’s on the hook for his reckless behavior.

[@3644Darrell]

@@RC-qf3mp how did he break any laws when he was told the gunhad blanks in it? There shouldn't be any live rounds on a movie set. It was just an accident.

[@YernBelfus400]

​@@3644Darrell Baldwin broke the law by killing an innocent person through his own negligence. Baldwin chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it, killing his victim through his own negligence.

[@FernandoGonzalez-ub9iw]

That killer has to be in jail time already... no justice for his crimes...why he's not ? because he is a "celebrity" give me a break...

[@rorymcgrath4282]

Basic gun safety says regardless of a guns status, it should always be treated as if it were loaded, and kept pointed in a safe direction. This is negligence on a lot of people’s parts, but still Baldwin is mostly responsible. Especially considering everyone is responsible for every bullet that comes out of the gun they are holding, whether you are a citizen, police officer, or famous actor, the rules apply to everyone the same

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

It depends on your political affiliation and donations to which party.

[@chaddompierre5779]

I wholeheartedly agree, but airforce pilots apparently get a free pass🥴😵

[@tw8464]

Exactly the charges of manslaughter are accurate

[@TheHeliman9]

" I was told I was handed a unloaded gun" and the problem with that is you didn't check it yourself as you should have rule number one..

[@DortonFarb]

Bingo.

[@cjbeast1998]

Always treat a gun as if it is loaded is the number one rule of gun safety. It's the first thing they teach you in a fire arms class.

[@frogsong100]

Not in this constant filming setting. He asked and got a negative answer from the prop girl.

[@treyedwards2914]

This is for a firing range. It’s a movie he has to point the gun at people

[@cjbeast1998]

@@treyedwards2914 no this is for anytime handling a gun. They can easily use clever angles or mirrors. They are supposed to be movie experts they don't need to point real guns at people

[@time4me2fly94]

​@@frogsong100WRONG. Prop girl?? The person who handed Alec the gun was Dave Halls, the AD. He admitted he lied about inspecting it. This is why it's REQUIRED for the person using the gun to visually confirm it's safe to use. Alec did not watch the inspection. There was no inspection bc again, Dave Halls LIED. Hannah wasn't even there. She wasn't a prop girl. She was the armorer who was forced, by Alec, to assist props which is against regulations. Armorer is a dedicated job due to the dangerous nature of guns. She repeatedly told him she can't safely do both jobs but he ignored her concerns. She has all of this in writing. She will bury him at trial. Alec Baldwin is responsible for Halyna's death. Nobody shot and killed her but him.

[@time4me2fly94]

​@@treyedwards2914Yes and for that they use fake guns and CGI. When real guns are used there are safety shields, off site camera work, blanks or dummy rounds, and the armorer right there to repeatedly inspect the gun in front of the crew & actor using it. Alec didn't follow any of these protocols and didn't even need the gun for this camera set up. They weren't filming. He didn't watch Dave Halls inspect the gun, as he was required to do. Dave Halls admitted he lied about inspecting the gun. Had either one of those stupid men done their jobs the bullets would have been discovered and Halyna would be alive.

[@alexh887]

Lock him up

[@alecisback1]

I would have more sympathy for him if he just would man up and admit, he pulled the trigger. It’s a single action revolver. It literally cannot fire without a trigger pull

[@ZBostOneR]

You never know but he might be following advice from legal and branding experts on what he should and shouldn't say. It never works to be 100% honest or always prior integrity, it's how social interactions work. I like what you say but it's not the same for an average Joe than it's for a celebrity of some short, bc the second is exposed to a huge amount of interactions and ppl won't take the time to check the context of what it's said, specially if it's about someone we've never seen in person and we'll probably never meet. So, easier to take things out of context. Imagine all the news headers "Alec said that he pulled the trigger on purpose", so again he might be doing what he has to do, is the world that we live on.

[@ZBostOneR]

Now that I'm thinking, in fact I just assumed what you said about a revolver not firing without a trigger pull it's true bc me ain't have much knowledge about weapons and you kinda presented yourself as an expert, somewhat at least, by being so confident in that statement. But actually I don't think it's true that a revolver won't fire under ANY circumstances without a trigger pull, even though I think he probably did pull the trigger. So imagine the importance of the subject for someone that famous 😂😂

[@michaeljung4398]

Single action recover requires that the hammer being pulled back. Then, the trigger being pulled. Sometimes some revolver fire bullets without the trigger being pulled back. One of KZbin video showed a revolver shooting without the trigger pulled back.

[@ZBostOneR]

@@michaeljung4398 the hammer or the trigger?

[@Gage_Preston_OroGrandeG]

Boycott this movie of you think celebrites should not get away with murder...

[@91coronas]

Real, fake, loaded or unloaded, its the responsibility of the person handling any firearm to check. If it goes thru five different people its supposed to be checked each time. Never EVER take anyone word!

[@domsan3222]

He still should have checked it as soon as it was in his hand.

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@lpr5269]

He had 2 people supposedly check it. I really don't like that argument. Actors really aren't supposed to inspect the gun. If they do, then the protocol is that the armorer must check the gun again. The fact is that both those morons weren't qualified. You could make a case for that he was reckless in pointing the gun toward Halyna cocking it and pulling the trigger because the was no reason to do so since it was simply a rehearsal.

[@newyork4198]

Somebody inadvertently killed due to negligence of an employee. If it’s ok to charge cops, why not this guy??

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

Cops aren't charged because they have a tough job and need to have a little fun.

[@brian_atc]

This was a horrible accident and no way should Baldwin be charged. The prop person messed up by having any live rounds in set.

[@YernBelfus400]

Lol. When there's a drunk driving fatality, do you blame the person that put gas in the tank instead of blaming the drunk driver?

[@jeffrooo9606]

You always check the gun. Never take someones word. Also that gun you can see if there are rounds in it.

[@stephaniewilliams168]

Agreed

[@YernBelfus400]

Amen.

[@tw8464]

The number one cardinal rule. Check your weapon. They were using real firearms.

[@famisheddendon]

I just don't understand why they aren't charging the person who told Alec the gun was empty

[@JesusTreez]

Three rules of touching a firearm....

[@DavidReyes-vr3sg]

Selfish man that needs to go to prison for his negligence, simple as that.

[@the-rob-effect]

Based off what evidence? This clip of him being cautious around the crew when he knows the gun is loaded?? Pack your bias up and look at the facts and not your feelings

[@anthonyocarroll5630]

And so he should be charged

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

Nonsense total absolute nonsense! Did anyone get arrested for Bruce Lee's son?

[@BobbyGeneric145]

No because social media clout didn't exist back then.

[@darrylramsey6232]

Great point

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@BobbyGeneric145 This has nothing to do with clout. Are you out of your mind?

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@BobbyGeneric145 Antonio Velasco Gutierrez Aug 27, 2003 - Antonio Velasco Gutierrez, an extra in Mexico's direct-to-video film industry, died shortly after being shot Aug. 16 in Cuernavaca, Mexico,

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@BobbyGeneric145 What is so different about this one? It's just Israel trying to take away some of the attention so they can keep on with their ritual human sacrifice

[@ep1417]

Nothing changes the fact that she was in the line of fire and she did die.

[@mazzee]

Yes but he's got the money and fake tears and that's all it takes to be free

[@stephenpatton8690]

None of this will bring her back. This was an accident; a tragic accident.

[@timrobinson3972]

He should be charged Empty or not you never point a gun at anyone my 10 and 12 year old grandsons no better

[@ruslanamelnyk4263]

He killed a talented person. Mother and a wife. He is an adult - has to face consequences of his own actions.

[@mrock828]

He should be charged. Not murder but Involuntary manslaughter. He was acting irresponsibly with potentially dangerous tools on a job that he is ultimately in charge of.

[@tlk0216]

Ironic an anti gunner kills someone with a gun

[@thewebstylist]

Anyone else ever wonder how ‘footage’ only comes up months, years later in major cases like this? HOW is it not always days weeks later?

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

It happens with democrats all the time. Or it's called miss information, someone else's fault, or my favorite Trump did it.

[@dustyrhodes2717]

Because Baldwin has power

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

@@dustyrhodes2717 I know. I went in the bathroom right after him once, power isn't the word

[@TerrenceSmith-r9z]

Its weird, because as someone that never really cared for Alec Baldwin,.. I almost feel like he may of actually been set up in this whole situation, who knows 🤷‍♂️

[@UnOeufff]

Hannah Gutierrez Reed is the sole person who is responsible for the death of that camerawoman.

[@IvanRossS]

Yes !! her and only her !!! I do not understand why nobody talking about it

[@BobbyGeneric145]

Why would anyone trust firearms from someone with green and purple hair!?

[@BobbyGeneric145]

@@Amanda-lw9kq good thing you aren't in a position of authority.

[@IvanRossS]

@@BobbyGeneric145 definitely!!

[@because813]

Wrong, as soon as he took control of the firearm, he was also responsible.

[@truckcamper5751]

Lock him up for killing that girl

[@hankrhill324]

This is a rough case. It was a tragedy but I don’t think he is guilty of manslaughter. Criminal negligence perhaps but I don’t think manslaughter is gonna happen. He’s gonna lose millions in civil court and the movie itself is gonna be a bust. As for criminally I could see him getting a couple years in a country club at most, but more like probation or some sort of short suspended sentence.

[@Erik-R]

I don't disagree with you, but I just want to point out, if he were charged and found guilty, it would likely be of criminally negligent manslaughter 😉

[@Erik-R]

What I'm curious about though, do double jeopardy laws not apply here?

[@hankrhill324]

@@Erik-R double jeopardy doesn’t apply to a person who never was found innocent. They dropped the charges before a trial but can always refill them as long as he wasn’t found innocent.

[@Erik-R]

@@hankrhill324 ah I haven't been following too closely, I thought he already had a trial!

[@hankrhill324]

@@Erik-R there hasn’t been any trial other than the trial of public opinion. The criminal charges were originally dropped but he’s still on the hook for civil liability which could have a trial or get settled. Now he could be looking at criminal charges again plus the civil liability.

[@tebohomakopo1200]

He was told it was empty… to me it sounds like someone else should be taking the blame

[@YernBelfus400]

Lol. If someone handed you a real gun and told you it was empty, would you put it to your head and pull the trigger? Baldwin is the only person who chose to violate every single basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded gun at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it.

[@teamcynical725]

Nothing about those clips seem like carelessness to me. He was actively promoting safety, including not wanting someone to fall and break their neck.

[@TheRusticLoon]

I knew at age 7 to treat all guns as they were real and loaded. He knew better too.

[@PenskePC17]

New Mexico has already kissed its burgeoning movie industry goodbye by charging him in the first place.

[@alankillian4962]

So when was he placed on trial? NEVER HAPPENED !!!

[@PenskePC17]

@@alankillian4962 Jesus, he was already charged before this 🙄

[@alankillian4962]

@@PenskePC17 Do you understand the difference between charged and tried?

[@PenskePC17]

@@alankillian4962 do you understand I never said tried, genius?

[@itopdon]

He killed her!

[@nellybutton]

This could prove that he knew what he was supposed to do (not pull the trigger in anyone's direction) but he did it anyway & is lying to all of us. Who pulled the trigger then, Alec?!

[@Mr_Zimm]

Of course he is lying

[@ellatino55]

I think another prop master did a video on this and how a prop weapon can misfire. It was basically how far the trigger is squeezed and it’s possible to believe you didn’t fire the weapon and still have it fired. Even if he did pull the trigger? So what? Hollywood has STRICT unions and it shouldn’t be his job to check the weapon for a live round. The prop master is entirely in charge of that and it should be that ANY competent actor with 0 gun experience can do their job, act. I believe where Baldwin and other producers do have responsibilities is how they treated the crew and weather it created a rushed and dangerous working environment. Small problems usually lead to bigger problems. I crashed a car in 18 due to the high stress of a terribly managed production. We were working 16 hours and our manager made a very hostile and confusing work environment. Multiple issues happened that set and it did a toll to our health. Id like to add I am not an expert on weapons, I just worked on sets.

[@Fukuimold]

About time he gets held accountable

[@lorigoudreau5203]

I'm going with the conspiracy, that trump was mad at Alec for playing him on snl

[@darrylramsey6232]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hey never know

[@Heroball299]

How the tables have turned 😂

[@patrickthomas8890]

There’s frequent mentions of the “prop” gun. Prop is just short for “property”…as in it’s the movie studios property. It isn’t synonymous with fake. Could be fake sometimes, but not always.

[@J_NYC]

I thought you can't be charged twice for the same thing?

[@joshuacornelius25]

Double jeopardy refers to being TRIED (convicted or acquitted) twice for the same charge, not charged. People are often charged multiple times for the same crime for a variety of reasons (including mistrials) before being tried or the charges ultimately dropped or dismissed. Because of dual sovereignty, a defendant can also be charged in different sovereign jurisdictions (Federal and state courts, or two different states if both have jurisdictional claims) without violating double jeopardy.

[@DerWaidmann_]

You can't be retried for the same offense after a full acquittal

[@alankillian4962]

@@DerWaidmann_ He was never charged & tried. Only investigated but not charged by the DA at the time. Also there's no statute of of limitation on murder or manslaughter. If the Grand jury returns a true bill charging him the DA will file charges and a trial date set.

[@DerWaidmann_]

@@alankillian4962 He was charged at one point and the charges were dropped

[@memarks]

Is everybody crazy? A prop is made harmless so that an actor can safely fake doing the things that would be dangerous if it were real and loaded. By what possible logic can he be held guilty? This is one of the things that shake my faith in the basic sanity of us humans.

[@YernBelfus400]

Then seek competent professional mental health care. The word "prop" doesn't mean "fake", it is short for the word "property", meaning it is the property of the production. Productions are run by producers. and Baldwin was the producer. It was Baldwin's decision to use a real firearm as a movie "prop".

[@waitandhope]

Lol

[@junebug8715]

For the love of God, do you really think Alec, would want to shoot another person on set!!!! This is so sad. And America wonders why some people end it all!!! This world is so convoluted and unbearable. Alec my heart goes out to you, and the Director who sadly passed away because of this tragic shooting on set. God speed!

[@JennyLouLou]

I don't like this any more than you do. Unfortunately it is the very definition of involuntary manslaughter (aka accidental death that could have been prevented).

[@aware24]

Giving people free passes just because you know their fake characters they play

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

@@JennyLouLou BINGO.

[@66reeves]

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

[@GavinTaylor01]

This was so sad and should never have happened but I see nothing but him verbally stating safety issues and concerns. No I am no super fan but this was a sad tragedy. I see nothing in these shorts that would state otherwise. He was certainly super cautious in every aspect.

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

Super cautious but someone is dead and another injured. It was intentional because she wasn't bowing low enough to the king.

[@time4me2fly94]

He was absolutely NOT super cautious. One scene is different from the other. Halyna died because Aled did not do his job or follow the written IATSE protocols for weapons on set. In fact he straight up ignored 12 of them. The camera work with Halyna was just a set up to see how the light shone through the church & how best to position the camera. It wasn't scheduled and no gun was necessary. Alec wanted to use the gun. He did not inform the armorer, as required. He did not watch the inspection of the gun, as required. He aimed a real loaded Colt revolver 18" away from his coworkers and pulled the trigger. There were 2 misfires on set he did nothing about. He did not attend the required safety classes. He forced the armorer, Hannah, to work 2 jobs, against regulations. She repeatedly told him she can't do that and must focus 100% on weapons. He ignored her concerns. 'Super cautious' are not words that coincide with Alec Baldwin. He will be prosecuted and convicted for the death of Halyna Hutchins. There's no way out of this for him. Justice for Halyna.

[@warrenitsuks9580]

​@@time4me2fly94Can you source any of that? Not saying it's b.s. but unless you have verified sources to back up all of that, you're just some anon on the internet with an opinion..

[@vafito44]

He should be charged to the fullest extent

[@chubsnubber4867]

Oh come on! This was an accident and Alec is deviated!

[@bonololo3748]

First rule of gun handling. Always know the condition of the firearm. He f'ed up just as much as the armourer did.

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

You better check those rules again or get a knowledgeable instructor.

[@bonololo3748]

@@spiritualawakenings6251 "Always treating a firearm as if it's loaded" is basically what I was trying to say, if you want to narrow it down to the 4 basic rules of safety.

[@spiritualawakenings6251]

@@bonololo3748 But rules don't apply to leftists like Baldwin who wants to take everyone's guns but make millions from violent movies.

[@Joeys_Viewbox]

Alec Baldwin thinks he is above anything and everything. He deserves to be charge.

[@trevorhodges5232]

I think you just don't like the guy.

[@ZBostOneR]

No one deserves being charged for a murder they didn't do

[@LindaBarham]

Leave the poor guy alone, it was unintentional.!

[@YernBelfus400]

Liar. Baldwin INTENTIONALLY chose to violate every basic rule of firearms safety, pointed a loaded firearm at innocent people, manually cocked the hammer all the way back, put his finger on the trigger, and pulled it.

[@MONKMIKE]

I hope n Pray that her family gets Justice, since he Did pull a trigger to a loaded weapon !!..