Neverwinter in 2023 - Is this Free-to-Play MMO Worth Playing?

Neverwinter is a MMORPG based upon the popular fantasy board game Dungeons and Dragons. It was once Josh Strife Hayes favourite MMO to play and even boasts over 2 Million Players. Released in 2013, it is now nearing 10 years old, but the question remains, is it still worth playing in 2023?
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{0:00} Neverwinter Intro
{1:47} Neverwinter Gameplay
{3:04} Is Neverwinter Still Popular?
{5:45} Is Neverwinter Over Monetized?
{9:42} Final Thoughts
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[@owellorge1868]

go to www.youtube.com/@NeverwinterGame and watch some of the video from 6+ years ago.. THAT was neverwinter! 10s of thousands of players. It just pisses me off what they did in just the last 3 years alone that chased off so many players.

[@theiran]

The game USED to be experience based. But when they did the level crunch (max level used to be 70), they made the game more in accordance with the Pencil & Paper's game mechanic of level 20 being max level. In the process, it was decided to change it to a milestone system rather than experience based.

[@RPrice_OG]

In my experience free to play games are always more expensive than pay to play games.

[@luxs_beast2799]

Depends on which games. I've played neverwinter for years and only ever spent 10 dollars

[@BlazeBuds]

Ff14 isn't one of those games. Mostly because its half half. Spend way more on that than Eso, Eso I can sub when I want and still play if I don't

[@clayandros2038]

I disagree with this generalization as I've played free to play games where its not too aggressive but over time its gonna worse

[@valgilson6504]

I agree I simple cannot afford free to play games, they just cost to much.

[@cloudsstrife2587]

Imagine how dumb you have to be To put money in a free game 😂😂😂 i dont know what To say hoppeless....

[@SakuraRyokoMusic]

In order to feel like your starting to get somewhere in Neverwinter with your gear; you have to grind WAYY OUTDATED quests for seemingly (literary too perhaps) decades to try to avoid the paywall in order to simply get better gear after topping out your level; and go into the marketplace and sell sell sell; then BUY BUY BUY in order to get anything done with the character. It's wayyy too much Pay to Win BS for my liking; so I dumped it like a bad habit after playing for a while with some friends.

[@Pulsed101]

Thanks for your review, the old tab-targeting system is nice. Dodging red circles on the ground to support action-combat breaks world immersion so D&D Online might be the go.

[@kutaru1389]

I actually played the Beta in this game and also remember when you could make your own quest for other people to enjoy which was unique and amazing and the community created some stunning content for this game! I also remember it changing over time and getting very frustrated with the monetization. I think it's still worth enjoying the stories but I also would not recommend trying to do endgame or engage in the predatory systems.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Yes, The Foundry had some good adventures, many were better than the actual game. They got rid of it a few years ago. {:o:O:}

[@JanMartinBrenden-st4xh]

I remember creating some dung. Was fun times.

[@bailz5277]

The game used to have an S Tier build system, but hey nerfed it to the dirt, then scrapped it. It wound down to be just too much money and I moved on. Great world and classes, but not for long term.

[@mookfarr]

As a former hardcore MMORPG gamer who now has a little time to play, I enjoyed getting back into Neverwinter recently. Like most people say, the combat system is really fun and engaging. And I'm not at a point in my life where I can really invest in deep stories anymore. So I don't know, it scratches an itch for me. The monetization thing doesn't really bother me, because I'm not really interested in "being the best." I literally just enjoy the gameplay.

[@tf2noah]

Exactly bro i haven't spent any money on neverwinter and i just enjoy the gameplay and not trying to be the best. Thats the real way to enjoy games.

[@mookfarr]

@@tf2noah Glad to hear another person say that. It's a great game for an an RPG fan who doesn't have a ton of time. Feel free to add me in the game - I mostly solo stuff because no one else is around, but I do enjoy group play when everyone is around similar level. Username is Dagithil.

[@mylifeizrock]

You forgot the “gotta make the right friends” part.

[@forsak3n749]

@@mookfarr If you do not mind me asking, why do you have such little time now? I am just curious. I realize that I will reach a point in my life where I am in a similar situation to you, where I do not have a lot of time to play games. I do not look forward to that.

[@mookfarr]

@@forsak3n749 For me, it's because I now have a child, and my wife and I both work, so we have to share the childcare duties. Honestly, It's all about what you're replacing gaming with. Sure gaming is entertaining, I still enjoy it, but there's nothing lasting about it. You're not actually accomplishing anything. Being married and becoming a father has given me a deeper purpose in life to where I'm not really missing the fact that I can't game as much. I do sometimes wish I could play more, but ultimately I don't regret the trade.

[@EraZero250]

I'm going to go against the general consensus in here. I'm a 3 year deep long term player. I have a 72k item level and that's not item level chasing. That's Primal boots, Demo set, journal artifacts, serene hood of the dragon etc etc and so forth. I have good gear, my stats are good, my enchants are mythic, I have the du jour companions, I have probably 100 VoS completions, ToMM, Master Tiamat, CoK (yes thats a real trial abbreviation for the non players reading.... watching callouts when it was new was hilarious).... and so forth. Only dungeon I haven't touched is MToS. And still it is a very lonely game unless you are sweaty dps or have a clique to play with. I'm not finished my T3 dragon hunts because I literally have spent hours, yelling into the void of my zone, alliance and "looking for group" chat.... and I can count on one hand how many times I've gotten picked up. Also if you are a DPS role be prepared to wait a long time to get into higher level content, they're a dime a dozen and getting picked up for anything without an "in" connection, has only slightly better odds than finding a needle in a haystack. Oh yeah and you'll be waiting anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour or more to get a random queue to pop. So yeah if you can rub elbows with the elite and schmooze enough to make friends, you could go far. Also be prepared for everyone to have something critical to say about your build... even if you follow all the guides and critiques you get from people trying to help you, even if youre pulling decent damage.... you will still get some elitist telling you that your build is all wrong. Honestly I love the questing part and the dungeons are fun, there are good people on the game.... but it also can be a really toxic community full of bullies and middle aged people running guilds like exclusive clubs.

[@457Deniz457]

Perfect timing, thanks ! :)

[@billy_cross5580]

I must’ve played through leveling at least 15 times on different classes in and races. I never once felt like I had to buy anything and all the excess loot boxes. I just put them on marketplace and sold them know you don’t have to buy anything to be good at that game you just have to grind.

[@turdferguson6379]

The monetization is less than others out there, but I can see where some may be turned off by it. I used to spend about $30/year for VIP and to support a title I enjoyed. When they did the major combat changes (mod 15?,) I quit spending any money on it. I actually got much better when I had to grind out AD and am now a solid end-gamer for the last 5 mods. My problem with the pay-to-win folks is that they don't know the content and end up screwing up runs. I think this has caused a serious decline in public queues. As far as voice goes, I am one that mutes players with their mics on. I use Discord for voice. Great video, well balanced review.

[@Hamburglar009]

So much potential but utterly destroyed by outlandish monetization. I swear, if the monetization doesn’t slow down a bit it could be the end of enjoyable gaming for the majority of people. If everything ends up like neverwinter or Diablo immortal people will just stop trying games with ANY monetization due to a bad taste from these lousy products

[@laimcelloptc7791]

I have played Neverwinter a LOT in the past, as F2P and knowing exactly how the game works (and lot's of grinding) made it possible to be maxed in gear for many years. I didn't play for an entire year, I just logged and I could still max my gear with all the currency I have saved in the past (not considering of course the gear you can obtain only grinding). Also: if you spend in 1h enough to max your character, still that doesn't mean you will be good, cause you might not know how to play it. Grinding the content was the thing that gave much expirience and make me change my rotations as I noticed something worked better. The battle engine is fun, I can suggest the game if someone doesn't necesseraly want to be competitive and just run missions and explore until you get bored

[@TheMystacal]

the voice chat in neverwinter is for when you are in a party other then that it is text base

[@davidanderson7459]

its really fun the combat its better than a lot of mmos soo thats that. but hey the monetization really fucks it up the game

[@Diamura]

trying to run this game on my old pc was nostalgia

[@rayclawicefire2503]

I used to love playing this game, then I took a long break and played some other games. When I came back I eventually felt disgusted with my self for playing it, so I uninstalled and have never touched it since

[@kuja5809]

😅😂 I just saw it today for free haven't downloaded it yet what was disgusting besides the graphics

[@Broftw]

actually just got to 20 in that game and it was a pretty fun leveling experience. there seems to be ALOT to do even at a lower power level which is pretty great

[@joey2765]

Is there still a paywall at level 30

[@forsak3n749]

@@joey2765 max lvl is 20. They reworked the leveling system.

[@geminimojo8019]

I just started playing this game a bit, and I definitely agree it seems a bit crazy the way they try to get at your wallet. I personally don't care about being super competitive so I'll probably get what fun I can out of it for free then find something else.

[@denisedarland3345]

I have been playing Neverwinter for 5 years. Let me just say... as a long time player, without spending a TON of money I am only just starting to consider myself end game worthy. You do get a free key everyday if you buy VIP. And you can (in theory) buy VIP with in game currency. Getting in game currency has become nearly impossible. I usually spend about 10 bucks a month to keep my VIP updated. Meanwhile, you grind and grind and grind to get the astral diamonds you need to do anything. At some point it just gets very tedious. That said, I am obsessed and addicted to this game. The community does have some toxic people in it... like all games for the most part, but I have found some very good gaming buddies that I love running content with and the campaigns are fun. So, for the most part, it is worth it. :)

[@Peter-ny4mu]

You can do it if you plan ahead. It's easy within 3 months to get enough Astral Diamonds to exchange for enough Zen to buy 3 months VIP. It just takes a few months in the exchange. I put AD into the exchange when I get the Zen out. This means I've always got VIP. No actual money spent.

[@SaintsXIV]

Do you think it would be worthwhile for the type of play you do without VIP? What are some of your favorite parts of the game?

[@denisedarland3345]

@@Peter-ny4mu This is what I do mostly, but I also put a little money into the game. I am not rich, but I do feel like... yeah... I should be giving back when I can.

[@denisedarland3345]

I played the game for 2 years without VIP. When I started to buy VIP it was nice, certainly, but I decided to drop my VIP one time and I really found that playing without VIP was annoying. I had gotten so used to it. lol. So yeah, I think you could. For a good long while anyway. :) My favorite part is playing with my guildies. I like that I have made some friends. :)

[@Peter-ny4mu]

@@denisedarland3345 I agree, and I have spent actual money on Zen. I have purchased a couple of race packs. I've probably spent about as much as I would have done if I purchased the game (on disc) in a shop. I just don't think you need to continue to spend to enjoy the game. Either play casual without VIP (which if fine) or do what I do, if you play a lot.

[@D3R3LICTRECORDS]

Nice usage of the FF8 tune!

[@TheShlumpo]

honestly as long as its like warframe where u can do anything in the game but its like pay to speed up or like skip certain grinds i dont mind it at all and lootboxes don't tempt me as im a adult and dont cave into things like that

[@hughejass9461]

Great review. As a long time STO player I am aware of Cryptic, and now Gearbox's, predilection with trying to monetize everything. I've never played it and thought Neverwinter might be fun but the reviews are all over the place so I guess I'll look elsewhere.

[@xxninjasniperxx197]

ive been playing neverwinter since 2016 and i haven't spent any money in this game but what i like about this game is you can get any item in the game and you can grind and get pretty much anything without spending money and i got a friend that spent money on the game but didnt play a whole lot where as i grinded the game and im still got more item lvl and am just farther also you can only talk to people that are in your party but also you can get lockbox keys from the battle pass from time to time but for a new player you want to open the older lockboxes bc they give you trade bars every time and you want to wait for a trade bar discount event and then spend all on companion coins also recommend spending astral till epic and then upgrade coins i would only use from epic to mythic but if you do end up spending money in this game and you play it enough i would get vip bc its more worth you get a key everyday as long as you get on and you get assess to other things depending on how much vip you've bought but will say that you do kinda need to keep on getting vip to keep your vip rank so thats really how they milk yeah

[@SoulMythology]

Being an end game player of this game, I will admit that ranking up in this game can indeed feel lonely. But if you have a friend group or a guild that will level up with up, this game is soooo fun. I’d do anything to go back in time to experience this game as a beginner with my friends. End game is where most people are and once you get there the social world will open up and the community is really nice for the most part. Lastly, this game is pay to win UNLESS you are willing to Grind super hard. If you’re going to buy anything, just buy VIP because it gives you store discounts and a free lockbox key per day.

[@digweedrocks]

It's not even play to win, there are so many gotcha RNG curses that even hundreds of dollars in upgrades can be nullified by other group members who did something cryptic deems a "balancing element" before they even entered the dungeon with you Such things can include crafting, participating in events, claiming rewards from progress, changing companion powers, etc etc. A completely unprofessional approach to online gaming and most definitely a reason to never spend a dime on this online claw game

[@bobsheriff4756]

I'm a 8 year player. 2-3 years ago I would say the game was not pay to win, it was pay for convenience. Today the game is definitly pay to win. Hiwever the comment about I can spend enough and be more powerful then you within the hour isnt true at all. Most end game gear has to be earned. There is now way to buy them as they are bound to account on pick up. You could buy yourself up to the gear score needed for advanced dungeons but being that it will have to be earned. I dont play the game much anymore. I check out and run through the new modules. I would say if it's a world you're interested in and dont care about running the absolute end game content sure go ahead. Just know if you plan on running the hardest content you aren't doing it without spending a fair amount of cash.

[@bobsheriff4756]

@@digweedrocks The RNG is definitly what burnt me out. I was 75+ hard core vault of stars in trying to get a ring, the band of air. Never did get it. That ring alone at the time was 30-40% of your overall damage in long fights, like the end game trials. That was enough for me. I had to take a break. I definitly miss the the people I used to play with. Someone always had an open party with 10-15 people in there bullshitting and busting each others balls.

[@joshuamcdowell1460]

​​@@bobsheriff4756paying for it is still earning it lmao. Different grind, but a grind nonetheless.

[@joshuamcdowell1460]

That being said, I've soloed world bosses multiple times without paying anything other than time and concentration. Just git gud and build the right build. Hint: health stealing gear and self healing abilities are absolutely broken, can not recommend more for free to play solo playthroughs.

[@longlivefelix]

Anyone here can help me find the name of the track that is playing in the "is Neverwinter over monetized?" part?

[@alexprist2345]

i dont play any mmo atm but dam i enjoy your vids from when you were still playing eso till today, i quit eso for the same reasons more or less... do WOW next that would be fun !!! XD

[@112Firedragon]

to be honest ? i would leave a like for the final fantasy 8 infirmary / sad or love moments song in the background while explaining everything. that alone got my attention xD

[@Invoke9000]

@sawmanUk Voice Chat only works if you're in a party so it won't work in common area just anywhere otherwise there will be too much sound traffic. So literally you're talking into the void and no one can even hear you. It's like you talking into discord without being in a server or channel.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Yes, player base has plummeted. I remember there'd be hardly any room at the Invoking Circle in PE. Now, I am always alone. They banned an awful lot of people in several waves and various mods caused waves of mass quitting. {:o:O:}

[@siriusbizniss]

If you’re ok with grinding. Look no further. This is grind heaven.

[@jonathanwesley5189]

that title still belongs to bdo

[@Pulsed101]

@@jonathanwesley5189 bdo?

[@jonathanwesley5189]

@@Pulsed101 black desert online

[@shadeseph8817]

I play this game from time to time and I've never spent a dime on it yet. I've gotten many mounts and companions off the auction. Good ones at that. That being said... If you plan on playing hardcore, min/maxing and all that then yes, you will have to spend a Couple dollars to get the best mounts and companions (as far as I can tell) still... Its a fun game.

[@froshty6324]

A couple dollars lol

[@taemien9219]

Neverwinter was ahead of its time. It was based on Fourth Edition D&D but had the monetization of OGL 1.1 I think its safe to say to stay far away from anything associated with any IP from Wizards of the Coast.

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

Ever since Diablo I have been impressed with that gaming engine. Neverwinter back when it first debuted changed all of it with the 3D rendering. Vastly. Sure enough there were not nearly enough static characteristic & appearance based mechanics. This despite the charisma attribute. Same issue as in the graphics model engine prior in fact. 🤸

[@bmatt2626]

Coming from DDO's acrobatics the stop-and-cast thing felt like a straightjacket.

[@JohnSmith-sx8dx]

I'm playing enhanced edition for Android on a tablet right now. I'm in the docks district. This game is sweet.

[@kingkushezio2581]

Bruh I played this for 2 years and ended up playing it like this is a single player game never played with anyone never talked to anyone and I joined a guild and there Moto was we help our members with group content etc . But when I needed help they had an excuse that they were to busy with other so I left the guild and this for me is a pay to win or you will have to grind forever . And the best races are locked behind a pay wall . Great video.

[@RuneRealmRPG]

I wanna enjoy ESO but i can't bc i actually fell into trap of buying high isle and I was so disappointed man , so many things locked behind paywal and the sub inventory advantage that comes with sub which for some reason is actually defended by many folks it fucking should not even be there, its like creating problem and selling solution. l all I'm hoping for is their new class is not locked behind new chapter ( which I'm not gonna buy) it will be tho, ig new world was only game which kinda is okay but then it has its own problems like recently how they introduced battlepass. Ig stick to coop or single player games bc they know we need good mmorpg but instead of giving a good mmorpg they wanna leech us off for their pockets. Its really hard for me to keep with so many DLCs especially when I'm not from west. And I ofc can't do monthly subs too. So I guess I'll stick with single player games that don't infest trillions of DLCs for future. damn lmao u really hit the nerve their with ESO in me

[@benjiminjune5459]

I have over 1100 hours in the game. And I can confirm that you will not be able to be top tier competitive without spending hundreds of dollars. On top of that you really do need vip which if you buy it monthly is pretty expensive, but if you buy the 6 month pack it’s idk a little less. Honestly, I love the game but the feature creep that forces you to both grind and spend a lot of money is very tough for me to continue with. I really don’t mind a reasonable subscription and cosmetics for a game. But I don’t like wards that cost like $10 each that are absolutely required to upgrade your gear and there are so many prices that need to be upgraded multiple times you will end up spending ridiculous amounts of money. I know, I did it back in the day. I just decided to quit for a second time because I was grinding for hours a day on all my alts and was still nowhere near having enough astral diamonds to afford the wards I needed in the auction house. Sad, but I won’t spend that much real world money on a game that is losing popularity consistently over time.

[@Seracs]

wards are free by just invoking on all your toons

[@marshallodom1388]

@@Seracs I Invoked on all 30 of my toons religiously, pardon the pun, day after day and after 6 months I finally got my first coal mote! Yippie! Now, even with account wide mythic enchantments, for my gear I need, 5*11*30 -1 = 1649 more coal motes, and I'll be long dead (around 800 years) before I can earn that many from just invoking

[@Seracs]

@@marshallodom1388 If this is real then you are the unluckiest player who ever touched this game and by a mile

[@Goddisz]

10.377 hours playing this game since 2014 and still playing

[@froshty6324]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're in a cult.

[@JebesNikove]

Had fun with this game a while back, but never going back. Great video :)

[@MrVivi0001]

this had so much potential. good fun combat, player created content support , and they f it up completely

[@babyyoda2219]

How did they f it up?

[@MrVivi0001]

@@babyyoda2219 mostly monitization. You cannot play the game without paying thousands of dollars for everything, from more bag space, to upgrading your equipment so you can do the content. It's a p2w shit pile of shit now. But when the game was in beta and right after release it was extremely fun and had a few interesting ideas.

[@Drock7749]

Sawman I played this game through alpha, beta, and for about 2-3 years after launch. My biggest complaints was the old mandatory monetization, they have upgrade mechanics that made you have to buy certain things from the cash shop to upgrade enchantments I mean technically you could upgrade without the CS items but it had a chance to fail that was MUCH larger than success. You basically had to buy the CS item or risk losing the enchantment. You could and still can use real money currency to gear out with nearly top gear immediately after hitting max level. My Biggest complain and what ultimately drove me away from the game was Time Gated DLCs, it made you run and rerun a daily quest (3 days in a row) before you can advance to the next step of the story of the DLC, and there was like 5-6 steps to finish the DLC story. I hated it, it was such a let down! Recently though my young son wanted to play a fun D&D based video game, so I loaded this one for him and I realized they have overhauled almost the entire game. Gone was the time gated content, and the monetization was there but way less required but not obnoxiously in your face that you HAD to pay the money. Anyways I decided to give it another go and I'm liking it so far and may end up playing it at least until Baldur's Gate 3 releases.

[@terrymills810]

They did away with that system and then did away with the replacement system. They now have a system where you rank up your enchantment (still very expensive either on wallet or time spent) once the enchantment is mythic you can turn in it and get an account wide version. The biggest drawback to this is you cant sell it once you trade it in to be account wide version,.

[@Nickersons-Theme]

I started playing it a few days ago, following the quest line, had some random interactions with people on the same quest, it's f2p so it is what is! Can't really see me spending anything on it tbh, I'll just take whatever gear/armour I'll pick up! Just wish you could remove the vip/store ad on the right hand side of the screen

[@Peter-ny4mu]

The reason this game gets bad reviews is it is being played by gamers not D&D players. They are not interested in the gameplay/journey, they just want to "win". I don't mean they want to work with you to win. I mean they want to beat you. In a co-op game? That is why they are not chatting or letting you (a new player) join in, in a group dungeon. I would have to say, at least on Playstation, if you just start talking to everyone in a Dungeon, you will get a conversation. So many people have the mic on and just don't talk. I would also say, it is truly weird to have a game that is free to play, but costs you money if you don't want to play it. Who was in that marketing meeting and how did they make that work?

[@wildejagd]

I tried this out on ps when I was on my first eso exile (yes, i have had several) and I lasted maybe 3 hours.

[@sawmanUK]

😹😹 it’s not bad but jeeeez the micro transactions just get shoved in your face

[@KaisersGB]

I enjoy D&D but as for this game I remember It was a bit too stiff in its gameplay for me. Monetization is a blight upon all MMOs. Another fun vid! 🍻

[@sawmanUK]

I thought the combat wasnt the worst I've played and considered its age i was impressed. But yea, the evil corporate greed seems to be all over this mmo

[@honestlynate7922]

I played this game like crazy and the stopped in 2015 when somebody's scammed me out of all of my good gear with the filling up the inventory list and then removing it quickly before clicking accept crap that was going around.

[@InternetAccount1134]

I’ve been playing this game off and on since 2015 and still literally no idea what I’m supposed to be doing. I tend to wander around doing whatever seems to be near me ..

[@bohemyus]

was worthed 4 years ago when the content was more and better (they keep eliminating old content to recycle it later) and the classes more balanced (they promise a rework of 1 class every 4 month leaving other classes to wait years even to fix major bugs)

[@rhinosblades4205]

The mount system killed me in that game I loved it with the customization and the character selections but your mount weren't shared between your characters

[@sawmanUK]

I didnt even realise that, that seems pretty dumb

[@rhinosblades4205]

@sawmanUK yea it is what killed the game for me

[@rhinosblades4205]

@sawmanUK I had a mount that was cool wanted to switch to a new toon and the game wouldn't let me the toon had no mount so I had to either play the one toon or open the mount on my new toon

[@razi2004]

The new system add account wide mount.. or companions..

New mounts and companions are account wide, so there is that.

[@gusarcher5446]

This is enjoyable. Always enjoy hearing the opinions of players who haven't played the game yet. Keep it up.

[@thegrubbyone]

Or players who don't know much about games at all. Only 2 Dungeons and Dragons games? Neverwinter Nights and Baldurs Gate ??

[@undeaddave9671]

Fanboys got their panties in a bunch 😂😂😂😂😂I played for years (PC and console) and quit because of the pay to win monetization system. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[@froshty6324]

Playing now as I type this. Game is pay to win and extremely aggressively predatory. Very fun and classic feeling with action combat but it p2w dogshi these days. Over 900 hours btw

[@kumanaz2765]

@@thegrubbyonehe said two MMOs. Not game in general.

[@thegrubbyone]

@@kumanaz2765 I listed 2 MMOs both are D&D and let's not forget D&D online

[@felipeborba2692]

A lot of people saying this game is P2W, that’s completely wrong. You can grind and use your brain to make money in the game. But usually people are lazy enough to think. Also, being an end game means you know mechanics and master the class you are playing. But again, people are lazy enough to use the brain.

[@JuniorLima-ft6qh]

Pay attention!!!

[@DOAM1234]

Just for my own curiosity, I'd love for you to try FO76 with Voice turned on and try to talk to people. I only ever had 2 people respond to be over the course of 2 months, maybe more. That was aussie servers though.

[@sawmanUK]

I played FO76 when it was in Beta and for 3 months straight after launch. I wouldnt mind going back to it and giving it another go. Voip honestly makes games more enjoyable

[@DOAM1234]

@@sawmanUK yeah... when people use it. i can have fun in damn near any game if ive got people to join me in the game and talk to them.

[@tannertiffey3250]

I remember playing Neverwinter religiously in 2013 to mid 2015. I had quite a bit of fun and honestly pvp was a freaking blast. I played as a great weapons fighter. I just got bored of it. Haven't played it since. Honestly probably never will. Pay to win is just annoying.

[@terrymills810]

IT isnt the same game call it Neverwinter 5.1. They just dont have enough money to rename it

[@NobushigeAzai]

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[@jennyflurlynn]

No, Nefas makes better.

[@NobushigeAzai]

@@jennyflurlynn you're Nefas.

[@Carbabydoll]

This game was great back in the day the first Mmo i went to level 60 hand tons of wealth then i came back to it in 2017 and was like what happened to my character and felt very weak. Then I found out they changed the game, nerfed my character so bad and felt the same way in Star Trek Online. So I don't understand and just felt I can't play both these games again nor wanted to start over. I hate when developers have to change their games.

[@soulserver127]

Was playing for about 2 years until the Leveling rework was added. Yeah the rework is great for your first run through... But for alts it just burns you out like it did me...

[@mzawadzk]

I'm the person leaving Neverwinter years ago to ESO. Because in ESO you don't have gear threadmill and devs listen to players :) ...

[@Seracs]

The actual problem with the Zen market is the fact that nothing in it is good , nothing has value in the cash shop except VIP witch is like your average subscribtion to a game , like 9e/month , + about 90% of BiS items cant be bought , you have to play the game ( and play it a lot ) to get the best stuff in the game , the Josh argu is wrong . You can pay to be stronger , but after like 500e there is nothing else you can buy to be stronger . And trust me even after thoses 500e your character will be dogshit. Neverwinter is more a cash bait than a pay to win game , if you are stupid you will probably fall into the bait , then you will use a lot of cash , and then you will realise that your character is still useless and nobody wants to play with you because they know you are a whale , then you will just quit the game and say everywhere you can thats its a pay to win game

[@rahatpradhan7913]

I have eso rn but I don’t see any players in eso seriously. It took me 14 mins to get a dungeon so I’m thinking I’ll get neverwinter before investing myself in eso

[@StrongArmEntertainment]

People are everywhere. Dungeon queue are broken

[@JnEricsonx]

You can have a displacer beast as a pet? Anything close to Drizzt's girl Guen?

[@Karakla08]

I played the game since Beta (April 2013) and stopped playing around 2017 because of the monetization and direction it was going with it. I played many other MMORPGs and at the end. I returned now to Neverwinter. The reasoning behind it was, like all MMORPGs are a Monetization Cesspool. I played World of Warcraft and that game wanted 40 € upfront and 13 € per month in addition had an ingame shop and many problems that Neverwinter actually doesn't have. The positive on Neverwinter is that i can now just play it. There is no money involved. Yes i progress way slower. But at the end, i can decide to spend, even with all the monetization shenaningans.

[@mickhoward3954]

Fuck, is that a rendition of the main theme from Balamb Garden in FFVIII!? Nice.

[@Madtazzio]

As a newer player only for 2 yrs, yes you can buy you way through but you can grind for everything also. I have a few friends that do just that an have never spent a cent on the game as I have a dew that have bought their way to the top. Yes it is linely starting but when you find the right guild an friends you can get lost in the game for hrs.

[@IIcultivatorII]

Wait till u hit end game, that’s where the pay to win starts

[@sawmanUK]

I could tell it was coming just because of all the stupid little monetization's going on.... shame really

[@hrmmmmmmable]

I just found out about this game. I was super excited until I saw it was owned by Arc. They have a pattern

[@jayden4086]

The thing is I’ve played neverwinter for a year I’m IL 72k and havnt spend a dime on items. Only thing I buy is vip but it’s a 1000 zen which is 750,000 AD with takes a week so a week of 2 queues a day gets me a month of vip. You don’t need to spend money to get higher it just makes it convenient

[@_Super_Dad_]

Well,you are spot on.. you have to spend money here.. but show me the game were we don't :)) eso is 120 euro a year just for subscribing:)) And you have to spend a good bit money before you get to endgame . But then you not to bad,you can start playin and enjoying for very minimum spendings.. and it's worth it,the power and skills,and all that game play it's very hard to find even today in any other mmorpg...

[@FlowerBot]

I no-lifed this game for 10k hours and eventually broke my addiction a couple of years ago to play something else that didn't treat me like garbage for all my efforts.

[@MS-eb8cf]

10k hours... thats literally an entire year of your life.. I could never.

[@yourhelpfulstoner6876]

bro thought he could put the hardest background music for the intro and nobody would notice

[@Godsnotreal]

You can trade to get diamonds to get zen to open loot boxes

[@billy_cross5580]

That is your mouth. Your entire stable gives you abilities, which isn’t necessarily unique, but it’s not very common companions, too.

[@rahee9482]

You think ESO is over monetized? The only things in eso shop is cosmetics....Many of the cosmetics are easy access to ingame stuff you can get anyway...

[@DivelhenDpA]

I was looking at the Neverwinter review and I saw Squall, Quistis, Selphie, Rinoa and Zell... I went haywire like pinball machines 😵

[@cekcpresso]

I used to love playing this game in 2014-2016 with my friend everyday. We mostly played pvp, and yeah we are russians)))

[@Cyrx686]

I guess I shouldn't complain as I used to play $15-20/mo for a few MMO's years ago. In the early 2000's. This game is actually a TON of fun but I do think you really do have to spend a few bucks, not a lot to really get everything out of it. I chose not to and eventually quit after most people chose not to and quit as well. There's no free lunch really and that's okay. There's value in that game or at least there used to be when it came out many years ago.

[@anantisocialsinsight]

Isn’t Neverwinter the same mmo as Neverwinter Nights? Edit- You took me back to a nostalgic trip when I heard that Balamb Garden theme, even if dub step

[@MrCaptainRoscoe]

I'd like for you to review DC Universe Online once it has its graphical update

[@sawmanUK]

I’m listening ….

[@fourth80]

I just started playing it last night on PS5. It's enjoyable, I am kind of tired of ESO... There isn't a lot of choice for console fantasy MMO. I am waiting for Diablo 4 and Baldurs gate 3.

[@Nara.Shikamaru]

Honestly I’ve been looking for an Xbox-aavailable fantasy multiplayer game for the boys and I because after 2-3 years, we’ve finally started to lose motivation in Halo. I play warframe with one of them and recently hit CP in ESO, so I’m thinking about getting them into those, but does anybody else have suggestions?

[@mullenio4200]

I hate that many online games have no social atmosphere and effect feel like solo games.

[@titusbojan4271]

Neverwinter and Star Trek Online have the same shady system, both published by Gearbox, free to play but really more fee to pay. Been playing Star Trek Online since it came out and if you don't spend any money in the game for Zen it's just impossible to play at high levels. Also in STO the elite queues for space missions aka elite / mythic dungeons are not frequently joined by anyone, have to wait about 2-3 hours to pop and when you do, the other players will be 2 shot by the enemy because there are no gear checks or item lvl requirements. Probably in Neverwinter you also need to buy some mount just for the trait that will be later used combined with something else from the store, for STO each ship has a trait that will make your beams, torpedoes or exotic damage hit harder, proc additional effects etc, so I'm guessing Neverwinter probably uses the same system. Best thing to avoid all them Gearbox online casinos.

[@Marc142000]

I miss ESO too...

[@sawmanUK]

I think ESO will end up like this...

[@FoundaPeanut]

I hear they are going to be implementing cross play, if they allow me to move my profile from Xbox to PC, I might consider logging back into ESO, I don’t know how long I would stick around though.

[@kevinrodriguez5981]

I play this on my ps5, haven’t paid anything so far. But at the moment , I’m enjoying this game more that back then.

[@deadfist0159]

I don't understand why so much people bash eso on monetization but everyone is like I cool if it's just cosmetics ,but that's it in eso besides xp scrolls but technically you can make xp pots so what does it matter I feel eso suffers from a lack of rewards to be earned in game like doing a Trifecta ( like f a title give me a pet or mount ) but when it come from monetization I look at the other games and company's out there , blizzard , Activision, ea , Terra, neverwinter, destiny, black dessert online , and even (final fantasy online ) compared to others the monetization doesn't look that bad ...I think eso suffers from a list of other problems lack in pvp meaning like new zone or etc , dynamic meta changes every 3 mth which forces people to farm new gear and learn a whole new rotation which could change to a dynamic roto or a static , when less experience players can't even la weave good . My personal opinion I think bringing oakensoul to game was a huge mistake now even why learn a roto just heavy attack . But monetization no I don't agree , I will agree that it does suck that most of the best cosmetics are in crown crates and shop , but there is nothing in that shop that could make you a more skilled player over another ..I've played eso since you could pre-order and have over 12000 hrs in game

[@RDGAMES96]

Recently watch the new dungeons and dragons movie so i thought to download this game to give it a go.

[@marzatplay]

Do an Age of Conan review 🤔

[@markom1164]

Synergy and essence of aggression... damn that brings back memories being rekted by them

[@marshallodom1388]

I can hear the booming voice of God echoing across Protector's Enclave "'Ello! Can ewe 'ear may!? I'm the new avatar of a fallen God. Can ewe 'elp may!?" and, yeah, be met with dead silence.

[@mylifeizrock]

I recommend you wait for throne and liberty to come out.

[@FoundaPeanut]

Most of these monetization systems are set up by people who not only don’t play video games, they probably hate people who do.

[@billy_cross5580]

Yeah, it’s unfortunate but it’s been my experience and almost any game that actually has that capability especially in games where it works really well when when fallout 76 came out everything was broken but the one thing that always worked really well and it was surprising was the boy that the proximity chat worked and people talk to ran up on people and you could talk to them But over the years not just an acting but in many games people don’t like to talk anymore they shut their lights off or if they are talking it’s in an external chat with just their friends people don’t it’s ironic as hell because the whole point of these games is the social aspect MMO‘s only exist as MMO‘s for Socialization Otherwise co-op is fine I mean you play by yourself and then you going to a queue to queue up for a dungeon and three other players join you you do your dungeon and then you go back to what you’re doing but in Evo or PG talking to other players and interacting in the game it is half the fun but nobody does it anymore in any game anywhere And seriously fly you to point the game that has some kind of proximity chat that people actually use

[@dezusa]

played this game for a year (alongside planetside 2), now it feels like an abstract painting and dont know whats going on. already left it for good

[@ayrkebraga2626]

Fourth MMO actually. Eh. NWN (1991) and Dark Sun Crimson Sands where the first 2. Then DDO. Then Neverwinter. Could be some other, but those are the only that come to mind.

[@mrhouse5133]

Came back to the game today(XBOX), my old characters are still there from 2015/16, game's gone through some changes! Like I swear max level before was like 60, now everything is 20... Don't plan to spend a penny, just want to experience a decent rpg whilst casting magic as a wizard lol

[@JohnnyWalker1077]

Started yesterday also on Xbox.

[@jackplague9803]

As someone who has been playing since 2014 I feel they shouldn't have messed with the level system I used to be a level 80 (max) drow rogue with the perfect move sets now I'm a level 20 rogue with only half the moves

[@RusuAlexander]

this is how they killed the game

[@billy_cross5580]

That’s the way dungeons are dude everybody rushes if there isn’t at least one person in there that can carry everybody through the dungeon then the game is probably broken. Dungeons are always a rush. Everybody wants to just complete the content. Get the reward once you’re done it once or twice. The fun is over, and it’s just grinding

[@realdhop]

If you think the monetization of the crown store from ESO is bad… Never winter’s monetization is 20 times worse 😂

[@sawmanUK]

Oh for sure, but all these MMO’s start their monetisation greed somewhere and then slowly get worse. It’s just a case of whether you see it coming or not 😹

[@Guitarjammerjoe]

You will drive yaself crazy trying to keep up when mods go to fast and forces you to spend money.. you don’t have to spend money but you will never be caught up without doing so ..

[@razi2004]

This is really weird. When I play ESO im gated from many contents due to need to pay or subscribe to unlock maps/contents. Some locked contents give BIS gears or classes n latest arcanist u need pay both class n unlock map. This never happen when I play NW and why I return to NW after playing ESO.

[@mismismism]

Sadly, I quit because of the over monetization as well. Same with ESO. It always trips me out when people will turn their nose up to games like FF14 because it has a sub fee but you can actually get the vast majority of things in game without constantly being funneled to a store, inconvenienced only to be pushed to pay for basic QoL, and no one can just swipe a card and be stronger than you. These F2P games actually tend to be more expensive in the long run and it's less fun. Once you get invested, you get more pushed to spend, single basic things are usually so overpriced, a skin can be more expensive than a sub or the price of a regular game. And all to play a game that's developed to purposely make you feel worse if you don't keep spending. ESO fell down that rabbit hole and it's just as sad.

[@saintlucyyyy713]

The problem with Josh strife's claim that he could buy his way to the top is he conveniently ignored that all the bid gear is stuck behind grinding the new campaigns and master trials/dungeons. Paying for stuff in the game will not get you to endgame 😂