NEW Ducati V4R vs BMW HP4 | The WINNER IS???

Another 650ib Comparison Video!!! In this video I match my 2013 BMW HP4 Race with my new, 2019 Ducati Panigale V4 R! We start the review at Nelson Ledges Road Course, one of my local (and very awesome) race tracks. After a review of how these motorcycles perform on the track, we take them to the street for a brief review and comparison of both bikes. Both the HP4 and V4R are beautiful bikes, and it was hard to pick a final 'favorite'!
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[@barryweaver8833]

650ib does NOT ride stock motorcycles - and you shouldn't either LOL ha haa haa haa Love it....

[@TheMacki95]

i was like you are goodmdan right !

[@Actionlutz]

Yeah that was when I thought his aftermarket turn signals are probably more than what is right now on my bank account

[@Tebaz8584]

Actionlutz ha reality stone attained. Lmao

[@barryweaver8833]

I love how you weigh the bikes, no one else is doing that... Awesome! I look forward to your review of that new BMW "M" spec....

[@650ib]

Thanks Barry!

[@mr-lc9wu]

I love how honest you are with your comparisons. The content you produce is 2nd to none.

[@650ib]

Thank you so much!

[@ShnZrr]

The sound of the HP 4 love the screaming inline 4 😍 thats what sportbikes sound like when im thinking of one😍

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

Gixxer-1K inline 4 has the best sound imo. They’re like f1 cars, love that scream.

[@ClutchFirst]

WOW, the Beemer won you over in the track comparison. Thats very impressive for a 6 year old bike.

[@650ib]

I totally agree Sir!

[@ivanmaserati7747]

@@650ib Love your videos man 👍.... I have a question for you... I have a 2013 BMW s1000rr stock (only thing done is a cat delete) and will like a quickshifter with the autoblip can you please tell me what brand is it that you have on the hp4. I mean that same quickshifter should work on the regular rr, right?

[@bernhtp]

Given the rate of technological progress in motorcycling, it's amazing that the now-old HP4 can compete with Ducati's brand new tour de force. BMW made something special here. I look forward to the new RR (have one on order). I am told by everyone that's spent considerable time on it that it's better in every way, at least relative to the previous base S1000RR.

[@650ib]

I'm looking forward to collecting mine too!

[@1micYT]

Nice video!!! Your editing skills have stepped up.

[@650ib]

Thanks so much Mike!

[@dougalmanzar]

Love the sound of the Bimmer with Brock pipe!!

[@JaretCampisi]

Ducati's are life...chalk up another for the V4R! I love it hahaha

[@5up614]

Hey I see you way down there in the comment section👀

[@sfcindia981]

I am rewinding this video again, and again, and again just to hear that pop between gearshifts of that v4r, and the sound is typical panigale.. Italian are a work of art, and i have a special place in my heart for these machines that no other bike can replace. Well, thanks for this video

[@650ib]

Thanks for the compliment!

[@Motosportnut]

21:30 for Ib's choice.

[@ChrisGodly]

i love these new review/comparison videos, keep up the good work brotha

[@williammartin5663]

The "Duck" reigns supreme across the board!.. including sound. 😉

[@williamwintemberg]

The video quality, editing along with sound and story line is absolutely top notch! You have definitely raised the bar! I have to say the V4R gets my vote. Having said that, both bikes are way beyond me in every category, even in my best years.

[@650ib]

Thanks so much for the compliment William!

[@01jimmyjazz]

Respect for your honesty about your track riding skill set . Can't wait to see you after some coaching. But at the end of the day I always believe that people should ride their own ride and be happy and safe and have fun in what they are doing. Thanks for sharing 650ib... The VR4 sounds AMAZING !! lol .... subscribed ...

[@beeweezee71888]

650ib awesome comparison and honesty. I respect that bro even at your skill set you are humble enough to know you can't put that amazing V4R to it full potential most guys won't admit that. I'm looking fwd for you to collect your new 1100 factor RSV4 Aprilia and new S1000rr M edition.

[@650ib]

Thanks man! Collecting my RSV4 1100 Factory tomorrow

[@LambChopRides]

Love the comparison, video quality is brilliant and I may have to invest in a set of those scales..

[@650ib]

Thanks so much LCR! I ❤️ your content too and have been enjoying your RSV4 1100 Factory content!

[@5up614]

Me also!!

[@LambChopRides]

@@650ib thanks man 👍

[@hfr8343]

That BMW sounds amazing. That track is only an hr twenty from me. Track days look like fun, I'd be nervous about having an agricultural experience though lol

[@650ib]

Please ride Nelson Ledges with me and don't worry about having an Agricultural Experience ❤️💪✔️

[@AF-nf4yf]

I'm one of those people who don't have favourites or know what they want to do... Although I do know my Dream bike is the HP4.

[@TheCTM124]

The Ducati sounds so good

[@taxi615]

Shame that BMW hasn't got the delivery process figured out yet last Monday they told me mid June to end of June and thats not 100% either what a nightmare...lol For all the lack of power, electronics and ergo's the HP4 has, it's still not bad in today's world. My biggest surprise is the 10lbs difference just shows how far ahead BMW was at that time with the HP4. the 2012-2014 generation of S1K's were not the best for track a bit heavy and turn-ins were a workout to do in chicanes but once all stripped down and race ready it becomes very light and a very good track weapon. I have been using them since 2012 and to be honest I only upgraded from my 2013's in 2017. I didn't feel the need to get the newer ones until they really changed it in the last generation. I still have a street version of the 2013 regular model with loads of upgrades but I use it only for my street stuff and it's got 65,000Kms never broke and still running like new. I will most likely keep it until it dies since I do maybe 5000kms a year on the street now and really don't need anything else it's still faster than 90% of the new bikes and does more than enough on the street. Honestly I think the new S1K will be a much better all around bike than the V4R since it's miles ahead in the road friendly tech much better track bike than before all the stuff you get with the M version for almost 1/2 the R's price. honestly I think the power will be very close since Ducati has a bad habit of putting high numbers on paper and BMW is the opposite I expect the 207hp to be very close to 200 WHP and if your like me and get the M power upgrade the bike will have close to 220 hp. Only bike I think that will beat both Ducati and BMW is Aprilia with the new 1100 factory even if it's got 77cc more in my opinion its not enough of a CC boost to really be the only reason it beat both bikes. I can't wait for you to do the 3 bike shoot out will be one of your best videos this summer for sure. Love the comparison videos its original and nobody else is doing it right now so good job and keep them coming. I hope you don't mind all this writing I do lol if so just tell me I'll stop saying what I think and telling you about my experiences. I don't get mad and you won't hurt my feelings I'm not one of those SJW WOKE pussy's Ride hard and ride safe!!!

[@taxi615]

oh and one thing maybe you feel more comfortable on track with the BMW (mentally) because if how much the R is excessively expensive.

[@grandtaino]

They told me the same thing about mid june..I order mine in Pensacola FL

[@taxi615]

@@grandtaino yep this is the third time I was told it would take more time and I have the bikes ordered since last December..lol I think they weren't ready and still aren't so it's taking longer to get all the network figured out. Not to sound like a dick but I race for BMW so imagine people having no ties to them at all. I know Ib is in the same situation he's got tie to them too so we are all getting delayed. But there are worst things in life so I'm not worried about it waiting just makes it that much better :)

[@650ib]

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this Jean! Please continue writing and congrats on your future S1000RR ❤️✔️💪

[@taxi615]

@@650ib thanks keep up the original content and looks like your getting more track time that will tune your riding to a much higher level. I should try to find time and go down there get some riding with you would be fun to meet you. I lived in Dayton back in the 80's

[@rianime9371]

I’m too young to ride motorbikes. Even though people might like the newer Panigale, I personally like how the BMW HP4 looks and sounds.

[@18lakhvinder18]

Im gonna be proud of the upcoming generation now

[@RandysReality]

Had to watch it twice! The cinematography and editing is ABSOLUTELY DOPE!!! I recently started my KZbin channel at the beginning of April. You have really motivated and inspired me to start my own channel. I’ve been at it for a month now and I really see the time and money that’s invested into it to make such great content! Keep doing your thing my man! 👍🏾👏🏾

[@650ib]

Thanks so much Randy!

[@slidernelson9747]

Glad to see Yur getting another Aprilia RSV4 RF I have two and have put a couple hundred miles on the new 1100 Factory. You won’t be disappointed!

[@eddiebrahm6468]

Any issues with tight valves? I've heard alot of negative reviews.

[@slidernelson9747]

Nope. Just don’t rev TF out of it and You’ll be fine. Just because it revs to 14,800 doesn’t mean it should be haha some people take things too literal lol but yea I shift at just a lil over 13k if I’m going after it. Great machine tho. I literally just spent the day on a ducati V4s... not even close to the new RSV4RF of 1100 Factory. IMO

[@kendrickh91]

I love the scream of a i-4 engine. But damn that V4R sounds menacing 😍

[@Motomillion]

Loving the content Ib! Great to see these beasts are being used on track and off track!...

[@650ib]

Yes Sir! Thanks for the compliment and for your awesome support!

[@KabatDaniel]

So I subscribe to the Blockhead KZbin channel because I'm interested in cruisers.. But 30 seconds into this clip and im subscribing. Such a likeable dude and personality. Good content!

[@650ib]

😜😜😜😜😜😜 Thanks 😜😜😜😜😜

[@NetMillionaire]

The V4R is by far the best track bike. Let’s be realistic a 5 year old bike against Ducati’s latest and best is no competition. Now of corse it depends who rides it. And the bike is obviously by far too good for you at this time with your ability. Now don’t take that in a bad way. I used to race bikes and it takes time and confidence to get and use a top spec bike at its best. Keep doing more track days and you’ll soon release the Ducati’s abilities. Watch world superbikes and take s loom at the guy who’s dominating every race. Great videos keep doing them.

[@RevItRalph]

You can't even use WSBK in comparison.... That comes down to skill of the rider. Look at BMW dominating in Isle of Man. Also understand the 14 HP4 gets out performed by the 15+ S1000RR's. I'm not saying you are 100% wrong but there's a lot more to Performance than the latest and greatest. Only Swapping Riders will prove that V4R is the BETTER bike vs the rest. I'm very interested to see the 2020 S1K vs V4R

[@BangAverageRider]

I'm hearing most 2020 BMW s1000rr's won't be delivered until October

[@shinobi211]

This dude cracking up laughing is why I come back ! Lol

[@johnkamola9563]

Love the dry clutch.

[@IanM2698]

The Ducati V4R wins it’s newer technology, looks absolutely stunning, sounds more amazing and its smashing the world super bike races.... PS the dry clutch is growing on me lol

[@tfuryrottie9060]

Not a great fan of the sound

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

It seems like people just like the v4 sound because it’s different. If v4s were standard amongst sport bikes then everyone would be RAVING over the beautiful sound of inline 4.

[@Turbo329]

Very nice! As Bayliss once put it, some bikes are like your favorite "armchair". You just go so much faster on it, even if it's not the latest and greatest technology.

[@ricardomorales4319]

That brock's speak louder than any exhaust!! reminds me when Vance & Hines was killing the exhaust game when i was younger!! But it also sounds like my Yoshimura Rs3 4 into 1 on my K4 GSXR 1000..

[@madmike5144]

DUCATI V4R, that look so sick, sound so epic

[@triedproven9908]

Oh my gosh... Love both bikes truly. Neither one can lose this battle. Sure the v4r would run the hp4 with that magnificently high reving engine. But because the hp4 is so comparable at its older age with less tech. Also in my opinion the hp4 looks a tad more my speed.

[@5up614]

Both amazing bikes. The BMW HP4 is definitely a classic already. And paved the way for what are super bikes do today. but I am still sticking with character and I do feel the Ducati is still a better track by in the right hands. But even if I go slower around the track on my Ducati and am excited the whole time that is a winner for me.🏁🏁

[@redrice589able]

5UP do you think your specialé is worth a comparison? Or does it’s bolder midrange power make it more comforting? I miss IB and yourself doing smack down videos!

[@motorcyclegarage2307]

Love the dry clutch - have one my self

[@FernandoLopez-yo3uv]

I really like the third person footage .. I think it would be a good addition to the channel . Keep up the good work 650ib

[@650ib]

Thanks man! Will do.

[@shahidtariq9663]

love from Pakistan.. stay blessed brother

[@650ib]

Thanks Shahid! You too ❤️❤️✔️✔️

[@charlesm.8807]

How do you not have more subscribers! This is exactly what dreamers like me need!

[@650ib]

Thanks so much Chuck!

[@Csirkefoga]

Love the humility 😎👌🏻

[@lucasggpeixoto]

where is your great buddy donny brasco? miss his smackdowns

[@650ib]

He's NOT my good buddy anymore. He turned out being the worst person I've ever encountered in my life. You'll never 👀 him again on my channel.

[@kranioo0]

Hey ib, I just read the guys from the 44teeth say that Ducati does not allow journalists to compare the V4R side by side with rivals on reviews. What are your thoughts on that?

[@650ib]

If that's true....it sucks for the journalists but it's GREAT for me!

[@corteezyrt]

dam i never noticed how great you are at presenting in your videos

[@650ib]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@quinonesm]

Another great video and I really appreciate your honesty with regards to why the HP4 is the better bike (based on your skillset). That level of transparency is key for explaining your results, when I'm sure most were expecting you to obviously give the V4R the win. Keep up the great work and content Ib!

[@650ib]

Thanks so much for the awesome compliment Marcus ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍

[@d.m.2223]

Hi Ib, you gotta keep the HP4 Carbon and never be tempted to sell it (or give away). I know it's the best bike I've EVERRRRR owned, and NEVER plan to change it. In fairness, I've never owned a Ducati Panigale and certainly not the V4R which is a beautiful powerful machine, but I just adore my HP4 Carbon far too much to even consider any change. Great video as always Ib. Thanks for sharing.

[@bmack1000]

These are still my 2 favorite of your all your bikes followed by the H2 and the R1M, but I feel your HP4 is still iconic to this channel love it 👍

[@Brenton1000]

I love that V4R!

[@theoracleprodigy]

I almost bought a HP4 that was about like the one you have... I ended up with a 2015 panigale R. Love it on the track hate it on the road. It's not horrid on the road though just really works best on the track.

[@650ib]

I agree

[@brettonmorrison1195]

"15:07" Can't fake that joy :)

[@ankushnabh]

Cheers Ib for finally weighing the HP4, always wanted to see how it compared to all the rest. Great video as always👍🏻

[@BOOSTEDH2]

awesome comparison.

[@oneonlyxram]

Damn dude, track all too yourself! That's how I like it at Inde here in az!

[@650ib]

It was tons of fun Chris!

[@infinityrider261]

My previous ride BMW S1000RR . Now, I own Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 factory. I prefer the Sound of V4, it is amazing, gorgeous...it has no comparsion. Thanks for this good videos, I enjoy them!!

[@pavelczech]

I’m one happy owner of HP4 👌 Awesome bike

[@Captndarty]

Sweet bikes indeed but what’s even more impressive to me is the fact my 15-year-old 05 ZX-10R is 375 pounds dry and only 25-ish horsepower less then the regular BMW model. Besides The electronics and a bump in horsepower there hasn’t been that much of a leap in 15 years as compared from 1990-2005.

[@casey2732]

If you think that leap wasn't that big you should take a ride on new ZX-10R and I don't want to even mention to try Panigale V4 here because this bike is in another league. I think that You will rewrite your opinion immidiately.

[@Captndarty]

Casey 27 Ducati’s have always been a step up in some respect. I wasn’t referring to the Panigale as I feel it’s in “Ferrari” territory compared to most other bikes and those of Japan. Besides the Ducati is 300cc’s more so there’s another reason it’s not in my point. I’ve ridden the BMW, Aprilia and the new ZX10R. Yes they’re impressive and faster but not much and they’re also heavier and full of intrusive rider aids. If you haven’t ever ridden an air/oil cooled and carbureted GSXR1100 or first gen CBR900rr (which you likely haven’t) you wouldn’t understand my point on the leap from 1990 to 2005 vs 2005-2019...

[@rogase68]

Refreshingly honest reviews. I guess when you own both you can be. Man I love the sound of a screaming inline 4. Can’t believe the BMW was so close in weight. Amazing.

[@chathurangaprasad7919]

Hp4 sound is amazing

[@isaacanderson8428]

As a cruiser rider my opinion should be the benchmark against which all others compare...lol jk I love the sound of an inline four and the HP4 is hands down one of the sweetest sounding i4's I've heard. However I absolutely love the sound of a V4 as well, although I think hearing that dry clutch clacking away probably doesn't translate over a video too well so I will reserve my auditory judgement until I hear one in person. Another exceptional video.

[@650ib]

Thanks Isaac! Well said.

[@dwlee67]

In my opinion sound wise it's going to be a very long time before there's another motor cycle that hits the market that even comes close to the V4R. That thing is insane. MotoGP on the streets. Love it.

[@polarbear111000]

650ib love your videos. Some things you might want to consider for your street comparison: maintenance costs; insurance costs; mirror usibility; pillion viability; ease of use regarding TC/WC/riding modes etc; gas mileage in city and road trip; comfort zone (i.e. 1/2 hour/3 hours?); turning radius......things people will deal with on a daily/monthly/yearly basis as part of their ownership experience. Cheers.

[@Taitea_____]

V4r is sooo dope, the sound is soo filthy baasy it grunts like filthy dragon.

[@michaelstewart3042]

He's baccck at a track manny what up ib bringing it hard to the people

[@mikeCupra]

I subscribed you when you had few subscribers and I was sure that your channel due to.your passion you have be awesome. Continue the great.job!

[@BOOSTEDH2]

Look at you throwing up Celsius for the rest of the world hahaha

[@650ib]

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 I'm trying to learn the metric system ✔️✔️

[@charlieryan1736]

Thanks for another honest review video 👍🏻

[@650ib]

You're welcome and thanks for watching ❤️🎥✔️

[@tylerfloyd8036]

I think if you had some race rubber on both and pushed harder the duck would shine a little better maybe, never rode either bikes so just a guess but I favor motors with torque, I assume the torque is on tap with that v4, and if you were in cali I would definitely run a track day with you any day that would be awesome. keep up the vids buddy!

[@650ib]

Thank you!

[@waynegriffiths9978]

Both beautiful motorcycles, but Ducati V4R for me! 👌👍🏻

[@raptorsean1464]

BMW s1krr M soon to take the crown once again. But damn ducati makes beautiful bikes.

[@matthewcregojr.2326]

I finally caught a vid on time

[@basit50cent]

Great music choice 👍

[@The_Real_SlickDaddy]

Thank you for all the comparisons IB I have been out of the riding game since 2014 and I’m thinking about jumping back in but not sure what to get. Currently looking at the New CBR, R1 and RSV4 but it’s really hard to pick because they’re all so close. I want to thank you for the content because I haven’t been this entertained in a long time and you lit a dead fire in me. I had no idea how much I missed a motorcycle. One I Pick one I will update you. In the mean time thank you for the Content.

[@BlackHeart_YouTube_Channel]

They are not close. The RSV4 is just on another level

[@rudedog3529]

RE: Weight: My 2014 HP 4 Competition weighed 446 with a full tank of gas. ___ Has full TI Akrapovic, stock, and blue OZ forged aluminum wheels. __ Looked so good that I kept the OEM OZ wheels, which were a bit heavier than the BST I put on most bikes. ___ My 2014 S 1000r nekkid bike comes in at 432 Lbs with Full Akra, BST, and Lithium battery.

[@dennischapman7884]

WoW! A honest camparo!

[@twistn-grips]

Gave the thumbs up, but definitely not for the haten of the dry clutch. Freaking LOVE it!!! Another AMAZING bike fella. I WILL meet and ride with you one day!!! 😉 great video.

[@mrBIGego]

Can’t wait till you get the new s1000rr!!!

[@Honda1k]

Ib do you have any black merch hats that I could purchase I see your T-shirts but I like that hat you wear and some of your videos.

[@bal4av]

Nice vid, ib! They both sound ridiculously good but the BMW has a dark side to it. For me, and I'm a Ducati lover, the BMW sounds better. But hey, a one mile long tunnel in any of those and that will be a hard on guaranteed! #dreambikes💪

[@parthasarathy5450]

Nice point of explanation and truth

[@aminajmi2273]

Beautiful bike 😊👍

[@The5nowman]

I Got to sit on an s1000rr recently....they are so comfortable and sound amazing! Defo going to add one to the stable now that I got the Ducati 😎. Great vid @650ib

[@nympholepticmonkey352]

HP4 sound wins hands down! But i do love the way the panigale looks :)

[@JayDonII]

Good video and comparison.

[@650ib]

Thanks man!

[@Moicc]

Very high quality!

[@davidlowe4889]

Love the dry clutch!

[@jefflorenz1604]

Hey 650ib hope the best for ya, Best sound for me is the Duc but I do not know how you do it the beemer is an awesome bike and I agree with you the Duc would be the bike for me I just can't let go of my zx14r, good day Bro

[@650ib]

Thanks Jeff!

[@jefflorenz1604]

650ib thank you bro and still lovin the vids you do great work

[@dennischapman7884]

You never said a word bout yer 100 v-4 Aprila,,,

[@650ib]

Picking it up tomorrow, stay tuned

[@Gambantein]

Great channel! 👍

[@raptorsean1464]

The new BMW S1KRR M just put out 206 at the REAR WHEEL STOCK there's a video on KZbin. Sorry I didn't provide a link but it's easy enough to find. BMW is going to make sure they stay on top. Best bike for road and track!!! In my opinion of course. You know you make an awesome machine when you don't have to inflate numbers.

[@650ib]

I've seen the video. We will put all of the bikes on the dyno.... Back to back and see.

[@raptorsean1464]

@@650ib Yes sir, keep your videos coming! And your up beat attitude and laugh has me giggling every time.😜👌

[@Furrylicorice]

Both bikes look great. I would get in to much trouble on both 😁

[@jeffwatts8887]

Another great video, I totally agree with you about all you have said, me being of similar size and riding ability, I too would favour the BMW at this point in time. but I am sure as you become more track oriented in the near future you will exploit the Ducati to the max.

[@jonnozx10r32]

Jeff Watts I highly doubt he’ll exploit any of these bikes to the max? I’d bet diamonds to a penny that he and 99% of people would run out of talent way before any of these two bikes or any modern super sport or super bike would.

[@williamtravis9283]

Imagine the day when 650ib buys a piece of property large enough to build a track in his own backyard!

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

I’ll always love the sound of the inline 4 they sound amazing like they scream higher even though they are not. The one thing I don’t like about the Ducati is how they have shortened the tail section and it has a aggressive upward angle as well. To short in my opinion making it look as though the swing arm has been extended. I hope other manufacturers don’t follow this. Now the new R1 tail I love the flow through design. I also love the tail on the older R1s nice and fat but not to fat like the old gsxr strad. I couldn’t think of a better time to be alive!!! The best of the best bikes ever. Next generation will be riding electric I’m sure. Previous generation was cool to but we are in the thick of the epitome of superbikes!!! Thank you Jesus!!!

[@rudedog3529]

Before watching the video, I was going to root for the HP 4. _

[@zoomjoo]

Maybe could make a racing team and have up and coming racers ride your bikes in series..

[@leeandrew2682]

trackday : V4R filthy streets : HP4

[@650ib]

Agreed

[@1482man]

This dude is amazing , he does what I WISH ....

[@arielfrancisjataas8300]

2 superbikes I can't afford but ducati v4 r my dream bikes someday I can get it 😊😊😍😍😍😍

[@dennischapman7884]

H-P-4 ANY DAY!

[@tariqorozco43]

for someone who puts a lot of race parts on race bikes, why haven't we seen your TC of ABS lights flicker on the track? Do you still have chicken lines after a trackday? i'd love to see a video of you dragging knee and having the TC light flashing. Utilize the fancy gizmos the bikes came with.