The Mangrove Snake Bite Conclusion - How Bad Was It? Do Not Replicate!

I allowed myself to be fully envenomated by a Mangrove Snake, for Science! 🤔 Here is what happened over 9 days.
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[@trabash505]

I truly hope people realize how important this video is! Thank you for putting yourself out there like this, for documenting it, and furthering the education of these amazing animals we love! ❤

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yes!!!! Now we know not so bad with a bit of understanding. Just don’t let them chew on you and it’s fine.

[@caughtafaygo]

Very surprised at how bad it looked visually. Glad it wasnt too bad. Very cool to know tho. I want a melanota in the next year or so. Thanks for everything you do Kevin! Seriously I appreciate you and all your efforts to help animals and inform humans. Much love brother

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Kindness

[@Darren-xd1yo]

Is there any difference with a hog ?​@@NewEnglandReptile

[@YochevedDesigns]

@@NewEnglandReptile So smart to take Tylenol instead of Naproxen. NSAIDs will just make the bruising worse. Most people don't know that.

[@insanity101manga]

I was honestly expecting the venom to cause more necrosis, glad it wasn’t as bad as I thought, but still nothing to make light of! Glad you’re ok Kevin, the herp world is lucky to have you!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Appreciated

[@speeddemon8977]

Even if kevin wasnt ok who gives 3 shits, he volunteer TO GET BITTEN SO IF HE DIED HE DIED IT WAS HIS CHOICE

[@user-xs5vz6be1w]

I was getting worried. What a totally realistic consequence of encountering or mishandling Boigas. I expected maybe a small injury and headache. Wow. That is scary. The 2 different bite sites really showed that it is the prolonged chewing that does damage. A beautiful snake, but not for me. I think you may also be used to snake bites and have a high pain tolerance. I would be in the fetal position for days lol. You're always taking one for the team. Another contribution to science. So glad you can still play the guitar! Greatest appreciation ❤

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Very kind. Thank you.

[@elainembla]

I think I said the same thing, I just posted . I did not read any comments before I wrote it . Apologies.

[@nancyreid8729]

NGL, I was a little worried when I didn’t see an update a little quicker; I was afraid KZbin had thrown you out! Good to see you post again.

[@Me_1983-]

Appreciate you taking one for the herpetology world. Love how detailed and composed you kept through the process, thoroughly documenting. You're the best!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I appreciate your thoughts! Thank you.

[@rickjason215]

There is a South African snake that is rear fanged that has venom more potent than a Mamba. The Boomslang. I doubt you would be brave enough to be chewed on by that snake.

[@victoriacleaveland3465]

Thank you for the update and relieved you do not plan to do so again. Learning about the animals you keep, your ability to explain the techniques that you do, in a language and manner that communicates your honest love and understanding of animals is a gift.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I love that!!!!!! Thank you.

[@heatherbrunner2165]

I remember when Brian got bit by his he did his usual smile and laughing LOL❤😊

[@NewEnglandReptile]

One thing I forgot to mention the arm that was bitten had a 10f temp increase compared to my other normal arm. It was noticeably Hot!!!! Lasted until the swelling went down.

[@tonycardone990]

That's quite a big difference. Glad to see it wasn't too bad. Worse than I expected as far as visible changes, but a bit of discomfort, swelling, and a thermal change to the affected limb is worth having a better understanding of what others could possibly expect from a bite. Thanks for the sacrifice to get the knowledge, brother 🤘🤘 Now I'm kind of wanting to try it out too, to see how similar or different the experience is. You know, for scientific data collection. If you're ever around the Greenwich CT area, bring the snake along and we can do a second reaction test 😂

[@jernisharichard5032]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@henryisnotafraid]

That turned out so much different than what I thought it would be compared to my hognose bite. 😬 Good on you the post and all this and making it a bit of a series to something that is very educational after all.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad you liked it too.

[@tjrichards3505]

Very good vid. Loved seeing this information. I'm allergic to wasps, yellow jackets, and possibly other "bee" type stings. Never had them broken down so I'm always assuming the worst. So very informative for me, though I have huge doubts I'll ever have a mangrove snake. Keep them coming. I've been on a binge of your med vids. So fascinating!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

More med videos coming. That’s the plan.

[@goatmealcookies7421]

thanks, Kevin... just snorted soda throu the nose. choking and laughing at the same time is disconcerting

[@trala8911]

Thought that was a euphemism for a minute and thought it was kind of an odd thing to admit to in a comment section. Re-read it and realised it was literal lol.

[@willd639]

The voices crack my shit it up Kevin…. Keep spitting knowledge in the faces of fools. Much love bro!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Love the encouragement. You might like the redline Brian kusko video I did too.

[@hyper8545]

I remember Brian saying he got very sick from a mangrove bite at your place. I didn't expect this tho wow 😮

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I don’t think I realized that.

[@reelburke]

What's interesting is that it seemed like that 1st bite followed the ulnar nerve path with the destruction and sensitivity both above and below the elbow. I wonder if that has to do with neurotoxicity.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I love to hear other ideas. I bet you know more than I do about me anatomy and reaction.

[@beastmaster3419]

wow i would have never thought that much damage would have come from a mangrove bite.very interesting

[@NewEnglandReptile]

It really is interesting but now we know!

[@jakebrouillette8268]

@@NewEnglandReptileI’ve heard of unconfirmed Death(s) in Malaysia, thanks for my pair Kevin! ♥️ 2 years I purcahsed

[@helenehlers9800]

Going above and beyond to educate. So glad you're ok! Also, you DO NOT suck!!!! I like ALL your content.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Appreciated.

[@RTTGuy45]

Nobody could give an answer if these were poisonous back in the 80's when I kept these. The couple I had was 150 - 180 cm, bred in captivity, very friendly and it was really impossible provoke them to bite. I figured that it would not be good to be caught off guard being bitten if they were poisonous so with some serum on hand, a friend and I put this to the test. Set up a good deep bite on the muscle between my thumb and index finger and held it there for a minute or two, I also had one of them to "chew" my thumb. I pretty much had the same experience as you just had. Bleeding, sore and a swelling for half a day or so. Cleaned up the mess with some disinfectant. Discolored, "bruised" skin for a few days. Really good that you documented this. These snakes are pretty and make good pets!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Sounds like you did better either way a bit than my long bite results.

[@RTTGuy45]

​@@NewEnglandReptile Perhaps. "Experts" at the time claimed their poison could be as potent as that of a Boomslang. (think that came from a book we had) But there were no recorded fatalities as it was very unlikely to get poisoned thru a bite them rear fanged. Hobby herpetologists at the time mostly regarded them as harmless, but "risk of a nasty infection" if bitten. Nevertheless, one of the best "tests" I've done. No more worries about what would happen if I got bitten. For the 10 years I was into the hobby I never kept poisonous snakes, the mangrove snakes being the exception. The only reason I got them in the first place was because, at the time, I was told they were harmless. Your video certainly triggered memories of a great period of my life!

[@MantoothCaptiveBredReptiles]

This is very similar to my Hydrodynastes Gigas envenomation. It was a 2.5” juvenile and held on for about a minute, minute and a half on my pinkie. I knew I was taking it on when it felt like a wasp sting. Within 45mins half of my hand was swollen. The swelling never left my hand, but I could feel tingling in my elbow. 12-16hrs later the swelling was gone, but the joints in my hand and wrist ached for about 2-3 weeks. I’m not allergic to anything, so the effects weren’t as severe as yours. Good research!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yes. That sounds interesting and the soreness after all swelling etc I can appreciate!!!! I think we can easily avoid the problem of envenomation but not allowing the long bites/chew and get them off quick. It’s the chewing that does it.

[@MantoothCaptiveBredReptiles]

@@NewEnglandReptile absolutely avoidable, but research and real world experience is needed. It’s not something we need to repeatedly pursue. There is just sooo much incorrect information regarding the animals.

[@Valyndris]

Yes, the book readings! I love story time. I love how giant all the snakes are in that book. I'm glad you didn't have any signs of necrosis. It looked pretty narly at 48 hours, glad it's healing well now. So the lesson here is don't let boigas chew on you, so stick to letting kingsnakes eat your fingers then? 😋

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yes, you got it perfect!!!!!

[@KimSpurre104]

That book: whole WRITES this stuff!?

[@KimSpurre104]

Very informative; thanks for educating us and being so willing to share this experience.

[@paused_optimism]

Very interesting experiment, glad to see you're ok. Keep an eye on the symptoms, especially for cellulitis &worsening neuropathy. From the view of a former medic, - keep an epi-pen, benadryl, hydrocortisone cream, & drawing salve on hand. Motrin is also a good idea to take for the inflammation. Stay safe 😉

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Thank you. Goooood ideas!

[@paranoiarpincess]

Back when my partner and I first moved in together, he brought 3 cats with him and one of them kind of went insane after a few months in. She started hating her sister that she had previously always gotten along with, and definitely didn't get along with my cat. They've all since passed, but back when they were still with us, and my son was around 2 years old, she just went nuts and lined at him. I have kinda superhuman reflexes, so I noticed, grabbed my son of the floor, lifted him as high as I could into the air safely, and turned my back to her to shield him from any potential attack, and attack she did. Either she was pissed I had taken her target, or I was so fast that she got me instead, but all I felt was a searing pain in my calf and a hiding and growling cat. She let go and I out my son in his room for a moment while I went to assess the damage. After my leg finished bruising, my partner (who was at work at the time) and I deduced how I ended up with a bruise the size of my entire calf. I knew it was right to because I heard her land... The cat had attacked my leg and clung on. Her weight and gravity worked to separate some of the layers of my skin. It was super painful and looked almost exactly like what your arm looks like in this video.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

That sounds terrible!!!!!!! Was it a puncture as we know cat saliva is very tough on us in some cases. Damn

[@paranoiarpincess]

@@NewEnglandReptile it was all claws. I know infection is a real possibility because cat claws are super dirty, but I disinfected the punctures and the bruise appeared pretty much immediately so there was no time for any infection to set in. It was also only bruising, no swelling, which would be super abnormal for infection.

[@leesaneyman8304]

Excellent video. TY for allowing your body to be used as a example to show this beauty isn't bad. Snakes need respect They don't want to hurt us. They basically just want to live their life.❤❤

[@NewEnglandReptile]

On point!!!! Thank you.

[@Sreyam86]

Kevin/team, your commitment to wildlife is incredibly inspiring. The readiness to experience a snake bite showcases exceptional bravery and passion to educate. I've employed a similar approach with ball pythons, using rats to illustrate that the bites aren't as painful as feared, as well illustrating what causes the bite by allowing their scent on my hand. It's not the bite itself that instills fear, but rather the anticipation. By confronting this fear directly, my niece now confidently interacts with the snake, even hand-feeding it. She received the snake for her 11th birthday from me, and she's excelling in caring for it. In life, I've come to understand that many problems stem from a lack of information or understanding. When people aren't properly informed, it can lead to misunderstandings and complications. If everyone embraced the opportunity to educate themselves on various subjects, we would undoubtedly see improvements across the board. Knowledge has the power to bring about positive change and foster better outcomes for all. What I admire about nerds is your commitment to accuracy. You may not always rush to post, but that's because you prioritize ensuring your facts are correct. You and your team are truly remarkable, and I find great joy in watching your videos. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@nicolewilleford749]

You are one my favorite people to watch, thanks for always being out there in front with teaching about these beautiful creatures

[@StLMikie]

Thanks for the class Mr. Kevin!! Thanks for putting yourself out there like this!!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

My pleasure!

[@davidbowes5097]

Thanks for making this video. I've always been enamored by dendrophila. I think they are such a beautiful snake and its one ive been debating for quite some time. I'm also severely allergic to yellow jackets and they almost bested me last year, because of that ive been hesitant to add one to my collection. Seeing this gave me the confidence to do so. You're an incredible ambassador to the reptile community and I'm grateful for all that you do🤘

[@loisjones2158]

Very useful info. Thank you for doing this. ❤

[@BuffNerdInCa]

Talk about taking one for the team. Thank you for your sacrifice in doing this for the sake of educating us hobbyists.

[@gingernorman5663]

Thanks, very informative, I really love to watch ur videos, mainly cause you are so real💯

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I appreciate that!!!!!

[@michaelmartini1401]

I loved it! Thanks for showing this experiment and sharing your experience!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lindaburcher3908]

Thank you for putting your self through it so we can know how to deal with our snakes that are prone to bitting.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yessss

[@CravenD15]

This was a very interesting video, and also, thank you for mentioning the hog nose bite you've experience too. I always see hognose snakes, even on state websites designated as not venomous, which I think is not wise to misclassify them. It's like with Dingo, and some work he did in South America, (forgot the location,) but having a snake down there similar to the hog nose in toxicity, etc. to the hog nose, and then him having a serious allergic reaction to it's venom. So really glad you brought that up, and love the information this video also provides.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Appreciated. Thank you.

[@lethafaey4544]

Thanks Kevin, I so happy that you have recovered. I have a question. Is it true or just a misnomer that you will have a worse reaction to the venom if it happens again? Lisa

[@bkm2797]

Good question, Dinko has said something like that, but Kevin should know as well.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Great question. So It depends how my body took it. It was tissue trauma more than body system so I expect I’d have less reaction But, I could be entirely wrong!!!!

[@cariadbach]

Wow! I was completely taken aback by the colour of your arm a few days in, Kevin!! I'm glad you didn't react any worse! As always, you know I absolutely love these wonderfully educational videos. Cheers mate 👍🏻 😊

[@NewEnglandReptile]

It was even worse looking in person my phone not the greatest with colors.

[@cariadbach]

@@NewEnglandReptile I bet!!

[@EastBayRealtor-]

Awesome video. I was looking for a reptile basics discount code a couple weeks ago 😫

[@tinadavis43]

We did learn. Thank you for sharing your gift of knowledge and honesty

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yessss we did. You are welcome.

[@laurarawlings2861]

Loved the beggining of this video hilarious kevin 😂😂😂😂😂 x

[@lindad1195]

My brothers and sister played with garter snakes all the time when we were kids and they did get bitten but they must not have been invenomated because they never had any problems, no swelling or anything.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

They really would need to commit to chewing.

[@julianwilkerson7744]

This was an awesome video. Letting that guy chew for over 2 minutes was definitely intense. I'm glad I can see what this boiga is capable of. I was curious to let mine bite me when he gets older to see how I react to the venom. Now I think I will pass on that. But if he ever does tag me, I won't be super worried as I won't allow me to sit and chew on me for a prolonged period of time. Thank you for taking such a good one in the name of science and herpetology!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yes and I’d say don’t bother letting him bite you good. You won’t like it one bit! Haaaa

[@MelSparrow]

Thanks Kevin. Love your videos, and you insight. Talk about taking one for the team! You took two. Glad all is well now.

[@davidheinz6124]

Hey, of all the snakes that you have been bitten by, where do you rank the bite of the Mangrove snake? I loved the video. It will really teach people what to expect if they get bit by a Mangrove snake. Thanks for taking one for the team. Keep up the awesome work. I learn a lot from your videos.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

As far as tissue trauma this was it. As far as damage from actual bite a retic and pain….. a monitor bite for sure!

[@JustAnotherWolfDragon]

Thanks for taking one for the team! ❤ I've seen more concern over rear fang snakes lately, with a few research studies looking for participants to provide their experiences (mainly for hognose snakes, but any colubrid welcome). I keep two rear fang snakes, Egyptian False Cobra and a Rufous Beaked Snake. The EFC is sometimes compared to Boiga for venom effects. One report for the Beaked Snake compared it to a Rattlesnake for pain, without the damage. Long sleeves and soft leather gloves when handling, for me 😅

[@TheRonjhet]

thank you, kev for putting these videos together to help educate others regarding these beautiful animals... helps us explain to others the importance of these animals to nature., people fear the unknown so when there is an unfortunate encounter, people just bash and kill these. glad to see you up and decided not to do it again😀

[@TwiztidPain]

I'd reach out to a venom expert and let them break down the effects. I have heard most rear fang bites tend to have neurosensitivity.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

That!!! Neurosensitivity might be what I still feel. At some point I might to hear an experts breakdown on this. Very good point.

[@J-_-]

I've always been curious about things like this as far as the rear-fanged venomous snakes. Thanks for being a guinea pig and "taking one for the team" Kevin. It was interesting. Would you ever consider doing this with one of the venomous monitors? I recall Brian got a little bit sick from an envemonation by one of his (I think it was a black-throat or white-throat, I don't recall the exact species with perfect recollection).

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I’ve already gone through stuff with monitor bites and nooooo. I know what they can do, infection!!!! Already been through all of that.

[@J-_-]

Thanks for the insight and response Kevin.

[@jimmaule1388]

Great Video Kevin, as usual very informative. I have a question. I kept thinking about the boomslang another rear fanged snake. Does the boomslang have a pressurized delivery system, or does it have to gnaw on you too? The venom toxicity make these to snakes in a totally different class but delivery systems seem the same to me. Thanks in Advance.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I believe that is pressurized and very much, bad news!!!!

[@melvingrimes7886]

The western hognose definitely have a more painful bite in my opinion. I got hit about 25 years ago by a large mangrove and really just a little bit of swelling and light bruising nothing more.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yep. Just let it chew for awhile and you may get more of a reaction. Hognose had that stinging to it.

[@aurieamoore5823]

Wow! That's super awesome to see! I currently keep a boiga melanota, and i love him to bits, attitude and all. I haven't gotten bitten by him yet, and i don't plan on it. 😅 But with the lack of well documented bites, I've always been curious what the extent of their venom would do to a person. I think this is especially helpful when it comes to realistically understanding what kind of safety risks he poses in situations where other people are involved. I'm curious to see if there's any long-lasting tissue damage issues post resolution... definitely keep an eye on it, and throw us another video if you experience any semi-permanent change in sensation! Thank you for this experiment.

[@user-sq7km3cq5n]

Am I correct being rear fanged the mangrove snake needs to chew in the venom needing to be in contact for a long time did this fact help you? Please reply thank you always enjoy your content keep it up mate🎉

[@imperialgirl4858]

Fascinating! Definitely not a breeze, but not likely a hospitalization. Also, YAY for the reptile basics...I need a new thermostat! 😁

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yessssssss

[@ChiaraMainolfi]

Kevin thank you for showing that it wasn’t horrid! By making this video you are proving that, yes there is a reaction but they don’t need to be restricted. With more and more reptiles being proven venomous I’m foreseeing more restrictions.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad you see my point.

[@ChantalsCritters]

Great video as always

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Appreciate that

[@Paula-sw2tt]

I love your videos. I have a male anaconda morph western hognose snake. I handle him frequently, but never worry about being bitten. I would have to seriously injure him in order to make him bite me. I have handled lots of different snake species in my 68 years and Aspen is the chillest snake that I have ever interacted with.

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

Wierdly mine bit me out of nowhere a few days ago. Never been the slightest aggressive/bitey/defensive . It just randomly bit me. No idea, why. I got it off me in just a few seconds, so there can't have been much venom. There were almost no effects at all, other than (it got me on the fleshy heel of my hand) maybe a bit of muscle twitching for maybe an hour or two. But that might have just been coincidence or psychosomatic. I'm more annoyed because it was always my chilled animal to get out if anyone wants to have a closer look at one my scaley freinds. My GTP's are not for visitors, lol. But now i can't do that as i can't trust it again. I dont care about a bite, but others certainly will. Awkard bugger, lol.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

They really are wonderful. My hognose bite was purely I want to eat the world.

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

@@NewEnglandReptile After a few days of reflection i reckon mine had also decided i look very tasty indeed. Have to admire ambition!

[@karyannfontaine8757]

Cytotoxin is present. Interesting reaction. Seemed to intensify over time. I am glad Kevin tested this Mangrove Snake venom. I am sure we were more comfortable than Kevin was. Neurotoxin is what you feel, yet not see. I don't think I would like it, although it is tolerable.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Those are interesting points to me, noted. Thank you!

[@Filywardo]

thanks for the informative upload kevin, youre the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jmalexander131]

How did you handle the wound(s)? Wash (plain water, soap, antiseptic lotion)? Did you use cortisone cream? NASIDs, asprin, Tylenol ?

[@NewEnglandReptile]

No I did not wash it. I wanted to see full reaction. I took two Tylenol the next day once. That’s about it.

[@jmalexander131]

Thanks for the response. ​@@NewEnglandReptile

[@Ibaneddie76]

Great video Kevin!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@grindy24]

Damn this dudes voice at the beginning was hitting all kinds of unexpected notes lol

[@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural]

I was not expecting that! Actually pretty gnarly. If they had a pressurized system they would be pretty scary. Can I get those in MA?

[@juliaboeck8110]

Wow thank you for taking one for the team, that was interesting and excellent information and there is no way you suck,you are very knowledgeable and very interesting to listen to, I feel we learn a lot from you so come on everyone let's like everything he does and comment on it and for gosh sakes make sure everyone is subscribed.

[@ziggy4465]

Interesting outcome. Your allergies to other types of venom could explain your reaction. I’ve been bitten by several different snakes, but only had a reaction to rattlesnake venom (which is typical). Thankfully, it was only a mild envenomation, 24 hours in the hospital, two vials of antivenin, and a bit of a scar was the end result. I do remember a fair amount of pain and some swelling, but it was also 38 years ago. I find that your channel provides a decent amount of education and I’ll chalk this one up to “what not to do”. There are always the unforeseen situations that are not planned for and we deal with them as they arise. Knowing that you were already allergic to another venom did make this a little painful to watch. Glad that the reaction was not worse.

[@maelstrom200018]

Great video! Always wanted to know

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Sofia-n-Stella]

I live in New England, do you guys have a store here?

[@sharonkaczorowski8690]

I remember seeing the after effect of a rattler bite on a store owner in the Southwest when I was a child. I’ve wondered since if he kept the hand. When I saw it it was a week or so after the bite. He sought no medical treatment and his hand was black and at least 3-4 times the size of his other hand. Nasty.

[@seanbaros-qe1rp]

Thank you for everything you do!! You kick ass!!🤘🤘

[@NewEnglandReptile]

My pleasure!!

[@snakestationuk]

Did you use a dendrophilla dendrophilla for the bite?

[@pigimiceli]

lol the school teacher impersonation is so spot on

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Thank uuuu

[@pigimiceli]

@@NewEnglandReptile lol you make me crack everytime. Love the little Boigas, I will get one one day.

[@shelleoshelle7252]

Thank you Kevin for sharing this experience. I’ve often wondered about this snake’s venom. Have you been bitten by a hog nose? What kind of reaction did you get.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yessss. Hand swelled up some but went down within 24 hours. Burned.

[@Mr.Liam.]

That first mangrove snake has an awesome coloration to it, love it.

[@LoneLupine]

The goofy voice got me 🤣 omg

[@beverlyjensen443]

All in all, it was a really interesting. But I'm happy you don't plan to do it again. However, now I know cat-eyed snakes really can't hurt me, so I'm more interested in keeping one! Thanks... ya big nut! And I'm glad you're fine.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Thank uuuu

[@BarbaraHopkins-ji8lf]

Thank you for taking your time to properly and thoroughly document your findings. Although it was worse than what you anticipated, the amount of damage looked horrific. I am just glad the effects are not permanent. Thanks to you being a Guinea Pig, we now know we won't die from their bites. Love you Kevin. LOL

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yessssss. Appreciated I’m quite fine and now we know.

[@jdmahle]

The voice made this so good. I laughed so hard. Great video, beautiful mangrove snake. So much pain and suffering.... lol

[@kathleennickell1974]

Kevin! Glad you’re okay! Question? Are my blue tegus venomous?

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Nope!

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

Like I said on Instagram, it was super fascinating and surprising, but we need a full on data set to form any real conclusions, so line up folks! Lets get the EpiPens ready and roll some dice! Lol (I will say any necrosis or cellulitis youd have gone to hospital. Ive had it, lost an entire finger and almost a hand, and it was the worst pain ive ever felt. And ive had Endocarditis, embolisms, multiple cases of Staph abcess etc. inflammation and adema is a bit different tho also painful of course)

[@NewEnglandReptile]

That does sound scary and terrrible. Hmmmmmmm……. A bit of discomfort now and tender.

[@faithmothergoddess7055]

Wow kevin you are nuts xxxx thankyou for your self experimentation xxxx just dont make a habit of it plz xxxx keep healthy!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I won’t!! Nope.

[@laurakelly3929]

I had some slight swelling for about 3 days on my knuckle from my Garter that got a pretty good bite on me .Benadryl did the trick .I was more worried about bacteria so kept it washed several times a day with antibacterial soap.

[@ResisterOfEvil]

I have always wanted to know how bad a bight is, very thorough documentary, thank you!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Glad it was helpful!

[@FeatherstoneApothecary]

try this..tear up a paper bag or brown craft paper into large strips soak in iced apple cider vinegar. apply and keep doing so til it's gone because it should be cold. it stinks...but works on swelling. cold cabbage, too!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I’ve never heard that. Apple cider super acidic. Hmmmmmmm Interesting

[@sarahmcgregor6006]

Remember the rhyme Jack and Jill? Jack and Jill went up the hill To fetch a pail of water. Jack fell down and broke his crown, And Jill came tumbling after. Up Jack got, and home did trot, As fast as he could caper, He went to bed to mend his head, With vinegar and brown paper. A home remedy that's been around since at least the 1700's!

[@brucebrazaitis321]

I had these back in the mid-80's. I remember that when given live rats that they seemed to subdue them more by constriction than by envenomation. Anyway a friend of mine borrowed then for a show he was going to do. When he returned the snakes he asked how "hot" these were supposed to be since he was bitten by them several times when he was handling them. I don't think he ever had any symptoms like you had mind you he had bitten by cobras way before this so could he had some immunity, IDK.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

They have to chew!!! A glancing shirt bite is nothing.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Yes, constriction for sure

[@brucebrazaitis321]

@@NewEnglandReptile The standard rep;y to they need to chew is ask Karl P Schmidt about that. Really your story makes me think to be a little more respective of these snakes. BTW I had some "flying "snakes from that importation that would take hopper mice. They showed neurotoxic symptom s when bitten. One of those snakes is shown on page 228 of Merrtens LIVING SNAKES OF THE WORLD in Color. I remember John telling me he wished I told him I had some mangroves since the only photo he could get was one with a nose rub. Really wanted to set up a paladarium with my elephant trunks in the aquatic part and mangroves in branches over the water but the state of Florida has decided to ban all Boigias.

[@Gizathecat2]

Did you have somebody with you while the snake was chewing on you just in case your experiment went sideways?

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Nooooo. I decided to do it as it was happening.

[@Aaron613V]

Would a garter snake have done the same damage?

[@ikkeschopkont]

Wow that is quite a reaction! 😮 Didn't imagine it to be that bad 😅

[@SammyTeal]

That looked painful, autch! But knowledge is good. Great job!

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Thanks!

[@boho_reptiles]

Wow now THAT’S commitment to a species/to the hobby! 😅 Mad respect to you Kevin! 🫡

[@NewEnglandReptile]

I wanted to know. Thank you.

[@sugar-spice38]

New subscriber I’m glad that you’re okay don’t try no more had Me nervous 😬 but I’m so happy you’re ok it was very educational and informative That snake is no joke no snakes are no jobs

[@Lanny-io9bi]

I'm not much of a snake person as in having any myself, but I have to say that these snakes are absolutely beautiful!

[@honeyman71962]

Does the mangrove snake require a venomous permit or is it exempt like other nonvenomous snakes?

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Generally no.

[@wesrines7421]

😂 kevin you need to stop getting bored. Haha I loved this video. Your awesome.

[@karaleeann1211]

Oh goodie! Let’s try a Gila Monster next! Tyler Nolan just had a super close call with a Mangshan viper in his collection 😬

[@seanbennett7916]

What would you recommend for a mid lvl plus snake keeper to start on boiga they ate all so great green heads, mangroves and dog tooth i like them all.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Boiga are a good one. I’d suggest cyanea or Melanota.

[@seanbennett7916]

I want a larger one like gets ivrt 8 fy but also lets you handle it.

[@RobRockit]

Thank you for this video Kevin. I've always been curious about the mangrove venom. This has been helpful.

[@davidbeardsley264]

How can you not love kevin he is a trip

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Kindness ❤

[@marybeth4518]

Is Donny not doing your videos anymore?

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Nope. He’s doing cop vids.

[@easternbrown]

This video got me googling Karl Patterson Schmidt. Thanks for putting yourself on the line for the sake of our education!

[@jimmystockton6404]

Love you brother you're doing great I really like these better than I do the scripted shit with Donnie

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Keep watching!!!!! More to come.

[@kellyanderson7572]

Coolest video I’ve seen in a long ass time. Thank you so much. I love Mangroves

[@NewEnglandReptile]

Love it. Thank you. ❤

[@mikealnutt360]

How different are these than the mangroves tyler has that are green

[@scottfay3553]

i got nipped on my elbow and i got pretty sick for an hour. worst headache of my life omit as well. It didnt chew it in either . i was handling it and it just nipped me with 30 seconds a was really sick.