Why Are Some Records Worth More Than Others? How To Determine the Value of Vinyl Records!

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[@briantooze3415]

Don't worry about how much your collection is worth, just enjoy the music.

[@walterpen6979]

Also you will never have the biggest or ultimate collection because it really is a bottomless pit. Almost every week you will come across something new and undiscovered.

[@stephencastro1437]

AMEN! For me, the "Value" in the record is how long it took me to find it and where I found it. It's not monetary. It's in the hunt and it's purely subjective.

[@mrhoffame]

Well I guess that kind of depends a bit. I don't think people have to be consumed with value if it doesn't matter to them, but in many cases we tend to forget that there are many vinyl collectors who are "music fans" as well as "collectors". I mean there are so many people who like to collect rare coins, stamps, baseball cards, or a million other things were value/rarity are a key piece because they are collectors. I just always found it odd that vinyl record collectors are often "forbidden" from being collectors in the eyes of so many people. I once had a friend who thought it was stupid that I had sealed records in my collection. He said...what is the point of having a sealed record if you don't listen to it. So my response to him was....would you tell a guy who has a baseball bat that was used in the last world series by his favorite team hanging on his wall..."What is the point of having a baseball bat if you don't play ball with it" or tell a stamp collector who has rare stamps "What is point of owning these stamps if you don't mail letters with them". LOL Finally my friend was able to see that there can two different aspect to record collecting. The love of the music and the collector joy of finding and owning valued collector pieces just like the baseball card or art collector.

[@escaton74]

true, but nearly every record collector - unless rich - finances his collection with dealing stuff

[@philipturner55]

Nagaoka mp211

[@chillepalmerz]

another reason: records released in the 90s are more rare because vinyl was such a niche at the time

[@jon4139]

Yeah this one threw me for a loop, after all my collecting of original records from the 60s my 1991 US pressing of Slint - Spiderland remains my most valuable one according to discogs.

[@mtache12]

Yup and that is when I started my collection :)...Discogs says my collection is worth $$

[@willywonka3050]

My jaw dropped when I found a 1997 pressing of Squirrel Bait's self-titled 12" EP in a tiny record store selling mostly 50s/60s records. I thought it would be worth a ton but apparently Squirrel Bait is quite unpopular compared to their contemporaries like Fugazi.

[@dawnpatrol700]

In the 90s, sealed new vinyl was just so rare, you grabbed it. I saw new vinyl so seldom, I always wondered why they would bother pressing so little.. Right now, I'm making a living selling records I bought as recently as 2012. Even some recent stuff is worth huge money, cause the band has since become famous, but 10 years ago, they only pressed 500 or whatever. I just sold a band called Blue October vinyl called Sway, not even 10 years old for $400. I bought all these indie bands vinyl and I was working 80 hours a week, so I never had a chance to open and play them. Now that I have the time, I'm terrified to open them, cause I'm finding out I'm sitting on a small fortune lol

[@timwilcox9600]

Very spot on video. Here’s my example. I have 3 vinyl copies of Black Sabbath Vol.4 - one of my favourite albums of all time. I have owned 4. My first was around 1976 when I was 15. It was the gatefold with the booklet which I played on my parents’ system off a Goldring Lenco deck through Scan-Dyna speakers. Tastes changed I needed money and it was sold. Maybe 5 years later bought a Nems label copy for maybe £2 -creased sleeve but vinyl fine: sound quality godawful which I then assumed had always been the case. Fast forward and I bought a Universal gatefold release with the booklet kind of half reproduced on the inner sleeve with some history. Made for the resurgent vinyl market and (playing this copy now via Rega deck, Creek Destiny amp and Epos speakers) clearly ‘mastered’ from digital sources and still flat. Then 3 years ago I was in Birmingham, England and toured the record shops. At Swordfish Records was a 1st press of Vol.4! Woo. Not only that it was mint. Guy in the shop said ‘we see hundreds of these but they are almost always bashed up and scratched’. Well being careful with records wasn’t really the way: taking them to parties, skinning up on them, dropping them, drunk people skating needles over them etc. But this was peachy. I paid £80. I had my youth back at a price. BUT even better when I put it on the LP I had come to think was crapily recorded it was actually a total musical production and pressing MONSTER. Worth every pound spent :) Now I’m taking this Universal release off and playing the real deal...

[@oddboxTopper]

I have a friend that would scour thrift stores, junk shops, yard sales and antique shops looking for strange private pressed gospel albums. In particular, albums that had some of the most gaudy looking cover photos. He would either sell or trade them to a few private collectors for good profit. What a few of these private collectors considered valuable is something most people would probably not spend a quarter for. I enjoyed this video Dillon. Hope you can reopen the store soon. Thanks...

[@noblerecords]

Thanks man!

[@polo7155]

The Master Of Reality album on Vertigo also had a folded poster inside...It hung on my wall as a teenager in '71...

[@johndeaux3703]

That Lynrd Skynrd album can safely be used as a coaster or oil catch under your old car.

[@nclare7]

BLASPHEMY! ;-)

[@marcinasia1731]

i purchased a copy of the beatles yesterday and today at i think sears in 1966 or 1967 i was 14 at the time ! the boys with the plastic dolls i thought was cute!! i then took my new record to a beatles concert and my dad was able to take me back stage! i was so excited to meet the boys and asked them to sign my new record! they all agreed and i was the happiest kid ever !!! i wonder if my like new signed by all the boys record is worth something?? i dont think i would sell it ... mary

[@SantosLHalper33]

I appreciate this a lot. I used to work at a record store and had to field a lot of the same questions and scenarios. No, Elvis records usually aren't worth a ton. No, that Street Survivors isn't particularly rare. One thing I would tell people is that typically local stuff is what we would like them to bring in. If they had a friend who was in a Garage band in the 60s and pressed a few 45s, we'd like to see it and not the beat up Sgt. Peppers album. (Boy, the amount of times people would try to sell us beat up copies of that record for 50 dollars is too much) It's pretty simple, it's just supply and demand. If they're a huge selling artist like the Beatles or Michael Jackson, more likely than not it's not some crazy expensive thing.

[@statictraveller]

Great video again Dillon. You're right about drum breaks- that's a whole underworld of collecting, like library records. Hard to navigate. My signed og Highway 61 by Bob Dylan is worth a lot- super rare. But that is an exception like you said. Most autographs aren't worth a great deal. You're getting a lot of hits for these videos: keeping it interesting and fast moving- the perfect combination! Cheers, Alan

[@noblerecords]

Thanks man!

[@jenniferleigh383]

Always enjoy your videos! You know your stuff! 👍👍

[@robertesensee3494]

Added or deleted songs from various pressings can make a big difference. The first version of the KISS' first vinyl did not have "Kissing Time" on it and it is worth considerably more than one with it. If you have one without it, you have a first pressing. If you one with it, then you have a second + pressing. I might be wrong, but based on what I read, I think I am correct.

[@noblerecords]

You right. That’s a tough one to find, I’ve have a few over the years

[@nicktherecordlover1969]

@@noblerecords A rare Kiss Self titled is one with a pink promo Warner Brothers sticker on it. Warner Brothers distributed Casablanca for a very short time.

[@stephenprimrose1396]

My Father in Law brought a crate of 78's home one day that he had picked up from an friend who was throwing them away. He was all happy thinking that since they were old, they would be worth a lot of money and that he could sell them a buy a new car. I researched the titles for him and had to tell him that the most expensive record he had out of the 30 records was only worth about $12. All the others were worth only $1 - $3 dollars.

[@AndyKaufman3000]

the street survivors album with all the inserts can go for more than $20 easily because most of them aren't complete. But you're right the black album cover which is just the back of the album cover blown up seems to be more rare than the flames. It's just an interesting story surrounding the album. Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, Cassie Gaines and Dean Kilpatrick are the people with the band who died in the crash. It's amazing more people didn't die.. the plane wasn't a tiny plane at all. I know some of the survivors and even have a tiny piece of the plane cut out into a guitar pick one of them gave me. It's a bit weird but since one of the survivors gave it to me I will cherish it in my collection of music history items. Another thing to note the plane ran out of gas so there was no fire which is why they all didn't die but the Gaines family wanted the cover changed because Steve is engulfed in flames on the cover of the album. Lynyrd Skynyrd was one of the most popular band in the WORLD at the time not just the US when that plane went down. Had that plane not gone down they would be remembered so much differently it's a shame they don't get the credit they deserve. No thanks to the guys who still tour under the name doesn't help their legacy at all. These guys were amazing and deserve more recognition for the music they made. I'll leave it at that because I could go all day :)

[@happyhippythevinylguy]

This was a good one!! We would get people coming into the antque shop with stuff thats not worth anything and think its worth $$$$ its something their mom or dad at at sears in the 70s and is just not an antque. Take care man

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

What determines the price of newer records and reissues are labels pressing in "limited edition" numbers and flippers that buy them up and inflate the price online.

[@dcdc148]

Damm bro turn up the volume I rocked hard in the early 70's I'm 63 now.

[@chriswingrove7656]

I found a copy of elvis moody blue on black vinyl at a flea market for 2$ and i have the skynyrd flames cover on 8-track lol.

[@nigelstansfield1644]

Fab.Good luck finding a machine to play it on.

[@VCCassidy]

In the punk/hardcore world, there are often limited pressings on small labels that just don’t exist anymore. If there has never been a reissue it can be quite expensive. Especially if the band got famous later on a major label (Jimmy Eat World, Nirvana etc) or if they grew a cult audience by word of mouth after they broke up (Indian Summer, Teen Idols, SOA etc). A current white whale for me is the first album by the band The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower. First record had small pressings and discogs only shows 2 VG+ copies from Germany for over 70 bucks, even though they were an obscure San Diego punk band that existed from 2003 to 2006.

[@awotnot]

for me, the wonderful thing about music / collecting is the continual stream of new stuff - old stuff but not heard / newly discovered ... it's like finding a new seam of gold in the ground anyhow, i joined a thred on Twitter just last week and someone cited a classical LP worth £600 / $800 + - and so i did a bit of research and discovered a few other LPs worth £100 + and because i do boot fairs (people in a field selling old stuff) i will keep my eyes open - along with the gold buyers and antique dealers etc etc .... amazing what comes out tbh - i bought some lovely early 70s funk just last week .... but my main point (and i stand to be corrected) is that said classical LPs were all from the same label and all 1958 - 1960 ish ... the point being they all had stereo written in large letters along the top of the front covers i thought stereo began in 1962 - hence that first Beatles LP being worth a shed load of cash ... and maybe these LPs were for a certain market ie people with a lot of money to spend on stereo equipment when everyone else bought mono just googled it and sure enough - 1954 - first records sold were 1958 - hence the value ... and it dates to earlier in other formats as well

[@kurtanglerookieyear]

Hey bud, you're clear, you're concise, you've got visual examples - you're a great resource for newbies and engaging for those in the middle of the pack (like me). You're doing a great service for the hobby/biz! I have in my possession a flawless copy of the Atom Heart Mother vinyl. Purple Capitol labels, US release. It showed up with no sleeve or jacket! Someone out there might be looking for a vinyl upgrade. How would you price such a piece given rarity, condition, but lack of packaging?

[@pn2543]

@8:01 Fairport Convention UnHalfbricking - wow flashback time for me!

[@richardsoffice9176]

Dillon - You are a Great Guy! Really Great! Nothing to point out! Except: PLEASE do not touch the vinyl surface, with your fingers! A sensitive, high quality, light tracking stylus / cartridge, CAN pick this up! Especially noticeable. with a low level intro, but a wide frequency range system, especially at loud volume, can reveal this under any circumstance! There is a small 'lead in' area, but it's hard to not touch the music area, as this is narrow. I enjoy your videos (If you listen to me, I may have to give you a early press of Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" with the genitalia on the cover! The dogs, NOT David's! Though this last, would be more valuable!) I enjoy your videos, but wince every time that you pull out an 'undressed' record, with your fingers! Please use a Vinyl Styl Archival Quality Inner Sleeve, or, perhaps better yet, the MoFi, Mobile Fidelity 'Non-Scratching, Anti Static.' You can see the disc through the non opaque, transparent side. Well worth it, for a clean copy of any real note! Some of us actually PLAY a few of the discs we collect, not just talk about them! There are pictures on old Columbia & RCA paper inner sleeves, illustrating how one should handle the disc by touching the inner label area and the outer edge. (Ha! If you revise all of your videos, I'll look for a time strip, promo copy, like new condition: Bob Dylan's first Columbia LP, first press with the "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues.")

[@ShamrocknRecords]

Some of those pressing errors are crazy. I have a Ryan Adams- Heartbreaker Record that the second LP is Edward Sharpe and The Magnetic zeros but has the Heartbreaker label on it. Cheers, Brian🍀

[@noblerecords]

Ha! That’s funny!

[@richardsoffice9176]

@@noblerecords As we know, anything can & has happened in the music / record business. Including mistakes / errors. Dunhill (The Mamas & The Papas) pumped out the hits, and had poorer quality control than Columbia, RCA or Capitol. When a pressing plant 'has' to get the 'product' out, no matter what, when units delivered is the priority, quality control can slip.

[@wolveriner8459]

That inside of the gatefold on the cover of the jacket is sooo RADD An that blank side on the other side of the other houses of the holy made me laugh that's great😂😂

[@rylotech907]

Last year I sold the first pressing of Street Survivors with insets and all MINT for $68. I believe at the time at least that was the most it had ever sold for.

[@noblerecords]

I sold a sealed one for $75. You did real good.

[@cravinbob]

Original James Gang Rides Again look for on one side the smooth area before the label has etched numbers also "Love from Jessica" written there also. Joe Walsh's Barnstorm also has "Thats No Banana Thats My Nose" There is another I forget which.

[@skinner321]

Duke Ellington at the Grand old Oprey is my second favorite album, next to Jerry Lee Lewis at the Apollo.

[@jamiehess4211]

Never heard the Apollo album, but always loved the Star Club album.

[@louisfgskater]

I have so much respect for you because you have Pieces of a Man in the background. One of my Favorite LP's ever.

[@claytonshank6871]

In a niche case like that of Vee Jay records, a disorganized, desperate label can skyrocket value decades later when they have content from a band like...The Beatles. I have a Stereo Ad Back of Introducing the Beatles in a Sears and Roebucks baggie...put out that way because the label wanted to rush the album out and therefore neglected track listings on the back slick. I spotted one in the wild at an Oregon record shop a couple years ago. Paid several thousand for it and folks, looking at the album’s selling history it was still a steal.

[@stonerdoom3481]

I wouldn't mind the son house album myself.

[@funk_konducta5174]

You said it my brother, supply and demand, people can have the "rarest" records in the world, but if people ain't buying them, I mean, also, record collecting it's a weird trip, I've seen records go down in value like the ernie hines joint, you always see it for 100 to 100+, nowadays, I've seen them for as low as 50 to 60. Great video fam, record collecting it's a bottomless pit indeed..

[@jacobmarkum610]

I was at a pawn shop one time that I knew had records and just wanted to see if I could get lucky. I found a Led Zeppelin II RL Mix that was absolutely COOKED and had no cover, you hate to see it.

[@richardsoffice9176]

I was attending the Navy Nuclear Power School in Vallejo, California when I purchased Led Zep II. The thing was, it was 'cut' very loudly, & skipped on my turntable. It did have more 'punch' & a better signal - to - noise ratio. I later replaced it, & it had been remastered, much lower volume. The first issue must of had a lot of returns. I did 'research' and later purchased the Shure V - 15 series cartridges, because they had more 'trackability' - were designed to navigate loudly mastered records. For example, the Styx, "Paradise Theater" album, A & M, is cut very loud, but didn't skip on my then equipment. I thought that it was distorted, didn't have to be mastered as loudly as it had been. Was very successful, though.

[@teenapittman4241]

I know that we all bought Street Survivor as soon as it was released and it was damn near worn out by the time they re-released it. But I gotta say..... My exes best friend borrowed our copy and never returned it. My ex has never forgotten it. He was also a tyrant about 45's. If you didn't listen to the album at our house, you didn't get to listen. He assured me that if I liked one song that I would like them all. I do thank him for teaching me to appreciate great music. Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull were his favorites.

[@richardfinlayson1524]

i have a Yes close to the edge with a plain atlantic label on one side, UK copy. i also have over 50 vertigo swirl LPs, amix of UK and OZ pressings and a few US, some of them are worth a bit too, and i went nuts on australian progressive and blues rock so i have a lot of rare early 70s aussie stuff...lately im getting into UK progressive jazz....;keith Tippet, Ian Carr, Nucleus, mike westbrook ,michael Garrick,mike gibbs,neil ardley, bloody great music! pretty hard to find too and sometimes expensive, but i love vinyl and i love to have my fave stuff on vinyl.

[@Namine1213]

A lot of good stuff here! When I was first looking into getting into this hobby and collecting I knew there was one album I had to have- ...Is a Real Boy by Say Anything. Favorite album from my all time favorite band. They were an underground emo/alt-rock band that had maybe one or two hit songs in 2004 before falling off the radar, couldnt be that hard or expensive to find right? Cheapest I've been able to find so far is $250, maybe 4 or 5 copies total. I checked discogs like you mentioned and it turns out there were 4 pressings of the album in large quantities so (to my understanding but I could be wrong, still new) it wasnt really that rare. Absolutely blows my mind that its that much 16 years later when Ive barely been able to find anyone else who listens to them

[@phyllishowell9941]

I don't know why my contact information is not allowing me to get subscribed

[@phyllishowell9941]

Where may I send a list of my collections?

[@francisanosissi1]

and sometimes you can even put them on yr turntable and enjoy them..woo hoo..

[@cogdj6452]

Just starting getting into jazz records….immediately Art Blakey and Hank Mobley stood out above the rest

[@toneyisaiah408]

I definitely agree with you on that.Enjoy your music.

[@alvinmarcus5780]

Love Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers.

[@chillepalmerz]

Speaking of skynyrd I have a copy of pronounced that I thought wasn’t worth anything because I figured it was common and the cover isn’t in good shape. Turns out it’s an original yellow label and the record itself is near mint, and they sell for a decent amount on discogs. Enjoyed the video a lot!

[@richardsoffice9176]

What label is this on? ABC? Had a yellow label, at times. First press.

[@OldeNorth]

I have a Foghat - Fool for the City - pressing that has a blank label on side one. Has the right music, right label, just nothing printed on the label. - I also have The Beatles - Revolver record with the right music, but is mislabeled with the Rubber Soul label on both sides. (Reissue from 2012)

[@RichAdams21]

I have an odd WB pressing of the first America album I discovered from my days in radio in the 80's. The America jacket & labels are all correct as is the music on side one but side two is 'Killer' from Alice Cooper, who was also on WB. I had just put this new copy in the studio and the first to play it on-air was a part-time DJ working our softer rock Sunday morning show. She cued it up on the first note only and ended up playing 'Dead Babies' instead of what she thought would be some America track. It's a funny story...now. Still have it in my collection.

[@anthonyg813]

I'll give you $50 for that Lynyrd Skynyrd Album right now. The one you showed!

[@martincoulter5477]

Fun stuff. Like your videos cause they are various types and styles of music. I do the Austin record shows and think you are more in line with the supply/demand aspect of the trade. Especially like your enthusiasm about the music and a little background on the artists.

[@noblerecords]

Thank you!!!

[@silverwood6705]

Great videos, getting back into records, after a LONG break!

[@videojeffrobetustak5129]

I have that Skynyrd Street survivors album and it still has the insert in it for the tour dates.

[@chillepalmerz]

If it’s the flame cover it’s worth millions :)

[@waynethera2712]

My favourite album of all time

[@nigelstansfield1644]

I love the idea of Son House doing a white label and some hip dj putting it in his set at the wrong speed.

[@Sparky68M]

I also own that Skynyrd album with the original cover ! Had it from new

[@leonbogdan1686]

Yeah me to, thought it was worth a little better than $20. Huh

[@ryan2stix]

Punkrock is my jam... I randomly look up some of my records on discogs, records I paid $15 for a few years ago are going for $100- $200 plus now...why? low press numbers, and people love their punkrock ;).. no idea how much my collection is worth, and that's fine with me, I play them nice and loud and I love them!

[@AB_Deck]

the Led Zepp NZ Houses of the Holy. Similar thing for the NZ Bowie Hunky Dory release being a different sleeve to the usual release in that the back picture was used on both back and front as they couldn't get the artwork to NZ in time, Did the same happen for Houses i wonder ?.

[@iaincowell9747]

Here's a weird one. Danzig III: How the Gods Kill & Danzig 4 are really expensive, but Danzig & Danzig II: Lucifuge are not

[@markschroeder5559]

What effect do reissues have on value of 1st pressings? It can create exposure but do collectors need that original copy? Sometimes in comics these reissues are actually a lot nicer quality, but that's a whole other story.

[@chillepalmerz]

Watching this again is making me nostalgic for just over a year ago when you could get standard editions of Zeppelin and Sabbath for 20 bucks or less in good condition :(

[@gh0s7sama]

Man I’d love to hear that Son House record.

[@bbwlover3982]

The amount of records went to the dump in the years cds was dominant is crazy

[@CaptCook999]

You forgot to mention cover art such as for the Beatles butcher cover. Sometimes it can make a very big difference in the value even if the record pressing is the same but with a different cover.

[@noblerecords]

I feel like that would fall under “rare editions” I spoke about, but good point!

[@richardsoffice9176]

The color on the label on the disc is important, sometimes. Capitol pressed Beatles LPs for many years, changed the color & designs on the disc labels every so often.

[@alekhidell3644]

@@noblerecords Yeah, "controversial" covers that get pulled can be valuable, especially if they get pulled quickly. You mentioned the Street Survivors cover which, as you note, is not very rare after all (and I own a copy too), but of course the Beatles' "butcher" cover IS rare and worth a lot (I don't have one lol). I also have Moby Grape with Skip Spence flipping the bird on the cover (later airbrushed away), a copy of Stand signed by Sly, and probably one or two others of similar note, but I'm under no illusions that they're worth any serious money. You also mentioned the Led Zep album with a blank label on one side. I have a 1973 repress of The Fabulous Charlie Rich with a blank side 1 label. But, again, not a highly sought-after record (fine as it is) and probably not worth much.

[@paulc5358]

I have that Duke Ellington album & the play bill for the live in Newport concert. My Big Question is This: I ordered Adele 30 album online and I got it for a really good deal for $15 bucks . Everybody else was selling it for $35-$40 by accident I ordered two of them. So I took one to my local record store near me & he scanned it & said it's only worth $15. I did find one in his bit for $38 Why?? I know he has to make money but why was the one I bought so cheap & others are so expensive??

[@theheadytimetraveler3864]

Awesome video Dylan! Always love seeing pieces from your collection....Did you end up getting rid of Lifun by Trubrot? Surprised you didn't show that one! Peace

[@noblerecords]

I don’t have that one! Never did! I wish!

[@theheadytimetraveler3864]

Huh.....maybe you showed a picture of it in one of your videos then....Heard about it from your channel, that album is so tasty but so pricey lol

[@pgh45rpms]

I've been looking for a still-sealed or near mint copy of the Uniques lp, "Happening--Now!!" Paula LP/LPS-2194, issued in 1967. Some used copies on eBay are being sold for under $100.00, but there is a still sealed copy (can't tell if it's mono or stereo) for $499.99. That's well beyond my price range. The seller provides free shipping, which doen't really thrill me. I purchased several albums while I was in the Air Force 1970-1974, assigned duty in Turkey, then England. The base exchange stores stocked lp's pressed mostly from Germany, Netherlands and UK. In some cases jacket design and music content are identical to US pressings, and some are different. Generally speaking is there a value difference between US and foreign pressings?

[@bohforme]

You should do a punk rock, hardcore version of this. Or recommend someone?

[@noblerecords]

I don’t know nearly enough about punk and hard rock, but Check out Vinyl Richie: kzbin.info/door/6IUI8Epkpqph-mafBUnbsw

[@bisket2003]

Peter Green is looking into my soul......

[@michaelmcgilvary9097]

I see Truth And Janey!!!

[@newriverratsam]

Love the Skynyrd info. Bought the Survivors LP when it came out ($8?), sold it around 1990 for $100. Not too shabby.....

[@GBCR]

Here, let me explain Blakey vs. Ellington in a few words: Motörhead vs. Journey. Same dynamic.

[@garyjdixon7282]

You had better check your Elvis Presley Vinyl records HISTORY as there is an extremely RARE RED CHRISTMAS ALBUM that is worth 15 to 20 STACKS and thats 20,000.00 USD CURRENCY if immaculate condition !

[@mike196212]

Bought a copy of QUADROPHENIA that did not feature The Who. I believe it was RAINBOW instead.

[@phillipanderson7398]

I was always told the the Robert Ludwig mastered LP was worth so much was because it was a " hot pressing". but I am not really sure just what that means. ps how much was the first Stooges original LP worth ?

[@mikeyii]

I’ve always heard it’s a loud mix, master, and pressing - louder than other pressings. So much so that people back in 1969 who used inferior turntables and styli found their equipment simply couldn’t handle the hot mix’s volume in the grooves and it skipped and/or sounded distorted to them. They returned it at at such a clip that Atlantic repressed it. However, it turns out that it’s just a loud mix that plays just fine on today’s turntables and gear and sounds fantastic with Robert Ludwig’s hot mix.

[@krystaltee9769]

Great video, man 👌

[@johnhpalmer6098]

A lot of great info there Dillon. Been watching your videos and just subscribed and just a couple of clarifications. I believe records MUST be both play and visually graded as some blemishes like swirl marks can not be heard on some systems and it all has to do with what stylus you have on your cart. Many older LP's from the 50's and 60's were played with carts that had a conical stylus on them and were not changed out as often as they should and thus were ragged and caused damage to the grooves, but put it on a table with say, an elliptical stylus and the damage nay not be heard despite the swirl marks say. An example, about 15 years ago, I bought a copy of Night Lights, Jerry Mulligan and it's the original Phillips stereo pressing from 1963 and at the store where I bought it in Seattle, it played fine and even with a cantiwampus cantilever on the record player, of which I think was a bottom feeding Technics from the late 70's or some such and again, it played fine. Got it home and crackle city, mistracking on my table. It was my cart it turned out being not aligned anywhere close to correctly but now, it plays pretty cleanly in so far as mistracking goes. But sometimes you get lucky with an album. One store here in Tacoma where I live now, they guy had a good, but not stellar condition copy of Kind of Blue by Miles Davis, mono, Columbia 6-eye that had a sticker of $30, I also picked up an original Portrait pressing of Dog and Butterfly by Heart (with a slight warp, but clean otherwise) that went for $15 and wound up paying also $15 for Kind of Blue! Also, it turned out to be a fairly early pressing as one, the label for side 2 was corrected (the two track titles were originally reversed) and other factors revealed it was pressed after Nov 1959 (date of correction) and before 1961 when CBS bought Columbia and the CBS nomenclature was placed at the 12:00 position on the label for 1961-62 until the 2-eye labels came out. It's not perfect as far as clean playing goes (it's mono too, they seem to find me even though I don't look for them specifically) but I'm sure most of that will be gone with a good cleaning. :-) And finally, an original pressing in good shape, LP AND cover of Workingman's Dead by the Grateful dean, on the olive green WB label, with a mistake on the cover that clues in that it was an early press, the back tip art was pasted upside down! Found it in the bargain bins for $13 locally last year. The only issue with the cover was a light bend on one corner, but intact otherwise. I often find this album and some of their earlier LP's with split covers going as high as $25 or so for less than good condition for the cover at least. But KOB is very common so it'll never sell for a huge amount. Early Blue Note records issued, and pressed between 1956-1966 are often worth big bucks as many never sold much more than 80K copies initially but often can be had for way less as a reissue. A case in point, Whistle Stop by Kenny Dorham (1961) has sold for as high as $600-1000, according to Popsyke but a UA/BN reissue can be had in near mint condition for $40 as that's how I got my copy, a late 70's most likely white B pressing, and it'd been sitting in the racks for about a year before I purchased it for $40. That was a couple of years ago now. It's fairly common knowledge that if you don't have a huge wad of bread in your pocket, for years the Liberty/UA reissues of many older BN records are often the best reissues to get, though BN, the current BN70, BN80 and Tone Poet are some of the best out there currently as reissues. I have the tone poet pressing of Lee Morgan's Cornbread (1967), a fantastic album and well worth the $35 price of admission for it. The same for the BN80 reissue of Jutta Hipp/Zoot Sims LP from 1956 is well worth the price of admission at $24.99, both mastered by Kevin Gray. Anyway, keep it up and hope you can survive and reopen. I'm hoping my local record stores survive too and next weekend when I get paid, will throw come cash to one in particular here locally to help them along a little.

[@hydroy1]

Give me them really sharp 20 dollar albums all day long ! The high dollar collectable's have the same songs on them and to me a music collector it's all about the music & art work of the jacket, leave the high dollar stuff to the album collectors as signed copy's , rare copy's over seas copy's and odd ball copy's still have all the same music as a perfect $20 no $10.00 dollar copy. Case in point I sold my numbered copy of the Beatles White album in VG+ shape and keep my brand new copy with no number for my collection. They both had the same songs and the jackets were both the same ( white ) However my new copy has zero back ground noise. So yeah, give me the new 20 dollar copy's every time . The only exception to that is if I really want a album that is very VERY rare , then I may pay extra or over look a bad jacket ( AKA Power Blues / Ten Years After ) as long as the vinyl is next to perfect.

[@markgrygielewicz8047]

Supply and demand!

[@walterpen6979]

Great video Dillon. You will always here about the holy grails that got sold or traded by big time collectors that had no knowledge until to late. My biggest mistake was years ago after finding many albums at a thrift store, there was one in the disco pile. It was in ultra mint condition, gatefold with two albums. I won't describe the cover. It was by Prince doing a tribute to Jimi Hendrix. Now at that time I had no clue about how talented Prince was and couldn't care much. For one more dollar it could of been mine! I found out about it through an expert who showed me proof in his book. He and many others never knew that a copy existed. By the way that very first album you showed, I met Marty Roth a few times years ago. Do you know the story about his original copies?

[@alvinmarcus5780]

I worked in a used book store and the same rules apply. I've had people bring in their paper back Stephen King books and say "what will you give me for these? Mint condition. And I would say " Nothing ". They would sometimes get mad as hell. I'd say " go back there and see how many mint King's you see " 10 - 12. Sometimes more. Then they would understand. Millions of them. Stephen King hardback first editions are a different story. Anyway. Peace Y'all.

[@daryltaylor9149]

I've got a copy of The Damned-Black Album that's mispressed and plays a Texas Rythm And Blues compilation instead. There's not too many out there apparently.

[@JJM3rd]

I got a copy of the Robert Ludwig pressing of Led Zeppelin II at Half Price Books in the clearance section for $1. Is it in amazing shape? No, it’s probably VG or so. But Good Plus copies still go for $50 on Discogs, and a Fair copy even sold for $10, so $1 for it is ridiculous! The oddest mispress I own is a copy of “Oh Good Grief!” by Vince Guaraldi. Side one is the Guaraldi as advertised, but side 2 is actually “Anthem Of The Sun” by the Grateful Dead. Both albums came out in 1968, and their catalog numbers are 2 apart - 1747 for the Guaraldi, 1749 for the Dead. Is it worth anything? Hell if I know, haven’t seen any mention of any other copy with that mispress, but it’s sure odd.

Wow - that's a weird one!

[@paulffake]

I think that records that are by influential bands that were “in” records by other musicians will garner more. Led Zep was very popular, but not as influential. A group like the Velvet Underground or Iggy and the Stooges or Eno for example are more prized and original pressings are gold. Another factor might be albums that were never re-released or released on CD, for example the first two Kraftwerk records. Autobahn was more popular, but worth far less than the first two.

[@erico888]

When folks find out i collect records, they always say, "oh, I've got some old records" I reply, 'yeah?' Yep, got some Led Zeppelin and Rolling Stones, I bet those are worth a lot. They don't like it when I explain they sold 12 million of those and they are worth 10 bucks, maybe.

[@elliottcrews4997]

And worth $10 is relative to where in the chain the record sits. If it is in a box in someone's closet and they want to sell the whole box I'd say it's worth $5 and most of the other records are worth $0.50 or nothing. If it is sitting at a used record store it might be worth $15. If it is sitting at a consignment shop it is probably worth $7.

[@erico888]

@ yep. I've hit some antique stores and there would be boxes of records that they priced like they were near mint and they looked as if someone had taken a file to the grooves. Someone was not reading their Goldmine guide very well.

[@madcreativer]

You forgot to mention beat up common Beatles pressings. People think there was the fortune.

[@Amishfish]

I see you Gil Scott heron

[@lupcokotevski2907]

1970's Japanese and Italian sax Muzak vinyl with beefcake covers can sell for 100's depending on the artist. Also 1960's.

[@noblerecords]

Yes

[@lupcokotevski2907]

@@noblerecords Yeah Dillon. I only discovered this a few days ago after I googled a few of these records that I had ignored in my collection for years!

[@northdevonwildlifewithandy788]

Does not having inner sleeves damage the disc?

[@markforster2794]

My best find was Faintly Blowing by Kaleidoscope (. UK Division) a near mint copy in a charity shop in the 80’s for £3. Also some reissues are becoming really expensive now- Creation of Sunlight is $50+

[@lordprotector3367]

Kaleidoscope was a good buy. Got to be worth £4-500 or so.

[@coreyoid9814]

I've found some of the weirdest, most obscure records call for insane prices. It's all about what different people value.

[@DocJJohnson]

Thank u

[@quintoncarroll4828]

What are matrix numbers, mono, and stereo?

[@biffboffo]

It’s not just drum breaks, but hip hop samples in general. If something was used for a popular track, it will be more collectible. It’s kind of a weird phenomenon because once a (non-drum) sample has been flipped, it’s *generally* off the table to be flipped again. Not always, but usually. Its uniqueness is lost.

[@noblerecords]

Yeah hahaha

[@djairjordan]

90s rea hip hop samples are probably the #1 reason blue note jazz records cost as much as they do now

[@dimebagdave77]

Hey man! I gotta copy of The Who's Live at Leeds with a legit contract from Woodstock and all sorts of other business papers and inside information inside...it was in my late uncle's record collection whom I think must have known someone in the band despite the fact he was from Eastern N.C. and run over by a street sweeper at 16...OH BOOOOY I'M RICH!!!😂😁😂😁😂😁

[@notvalidcharacters]

Hey lemme throw you a question about mispresses. I've got a very common Mamas and Papas LP, not particularly collectible, that has side 1 labeled on both sides (but pressed correctly, so you can't tell which side you''re playing until it plays). How many of those could have left the plant before somebody caught on and fixed it? Then I've got another LP of "Freddy Cannon's Greatest Hits" again not particularly collectible, and the labels are correct, but then if you turn the cover over the back is a completely different record from a completely different company with a completely different release year. Again, how many of those could have left the plant, let alone sat in stores where the cover would have been readily visible, and sold, before it was caught? Seems to me those would be rare. Btw another angle is records by then-unknowns who later went on to fame, e.g. you can find a 45 of Incense and Peppermints by Strawberry Alarm Clock on Uni and nobody cares, but find the same song by their previous name Thee Sixpence on All-American and you've got a deal. Or the Great Society or the Blue Velvets/Gollwogs. Gotta know your histories.

[@martinbishop5622]

Isn’t it funny how when selling records, the seller wants the prices to be HIGH, but when buying records they want the prices to be looooww 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[@uno99]

Hilarious. What an astute observation

[@miketomlin6040]

Not many vinyl sellers get rich, fools errand at times. Most shops struggle. So you have to try and buy well. A few 'got lucky' and brought a few houses with some tasty rarities. It's a labour of love, or should be.

[@remus3960]

On a certain point : all is said , i have a lot of vinyl ,but there are limits , i enjoyed the videos but for me the music is the topic, not the vinyl or the cd or the mp3,4 or waddever ....

[@michelleboucher6538]

I got a stack of about 50 Korean and Japanese 70s records from an antique shop couple years back. I have an account on discogs so been adding them to the database but still have no idea what they are worth as most of them have never been sold. I have seen some Korean albums go as high as 1500 and others for 10. I know that these are quite rare but like you said only about 4 or 5 are in high demand. So would you say my best bet is to try to auction them off on ebay?

[@terrywachter]

Might I add that if an autographed record is personalized, it will not be worth as much. The resale value of a signed item will be lower if it says "to Mitchell......" instead of just the artists signature. Unless your name happens to be Mitchell.

[@plasticsoundwavecult]

Do you play the really expensive records or do you just listen to a repress? I have “2nd State” Yesterday... And Today, and I play the record. I digitized it so I can hear it that way, but I really enjoy taking out the vinyl and giving it spin. I’ll be honest, I have an ATLP-60. I don’t plan on upgrading as I’m satisfied with the sound it produces. I want to listen to the record. It seems like it’s just taking up space if I don’t listen to it. Am I insane?

[@noblerecords]

I play every record I have. In my opinion there’s no point in having it if you don’t play it

[@plasticsoundwavecult]

Noble Records Thanks, I agree with you totally.

[@paint1955]

IfI find a record that is 40 or 50 years old, and it’s sealed, there’s little to no chance in Hell I’m gonna open it, I’m gonna sell it, or trade it, or just show it off!

@@paint1955 I collect those, too.

[@davidcarrington9458]

Living in England is so good for rare records.If you know what's rare that's is.Ive brought some peanuts.Some people have even given me them for free.i only own 2000 or so records but in my collection are some of the rarest.Just last year a guy gave me his led zeppelin collection for free.Im a joiner so I go into a lot of people's houses.A guy drove to my house with every Beatles 7" all original. In this black bin linner.A market in my town has this guy with a stall who only likes rock so he has no interest in funk jazz or hip hop.So when I ask him how much he says error two pounds please.ive cleared him out many times.oh and he sold me the Beatles white album for 10 pounds.

[@lordprotector3367]

I picked up a White Album in a charity shop (top loading, numbered) for £1 in a charity shop a few years ago.

[@rickbabcock6397]

Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here had two different covers I think.

[@stevehannon9979]

Thanks for the info I have a Original Master Recording The Chicago Transit Authority Is it worth anything?

[@sixfourrecords]

I have a copy of Houses of the Holy that has a Crosby Still and Nash label on side 2. I wonder if something went haywire with that batch?

[@nickh.4722]

Excellent and useful information, cheers! Love your channel, I learn a lot, but my Discogs Wantlist is getting longer and longer. Anyway, keep it up and stay healthy. Oh, by the way , I have a „Street Survivor“ with the flames. I‘m gonna sell it and buy me a new car.

[@noblerecords]

Hey, you could get several hotwheels for that! 🤣

[@NickP333]

Noble Records Haha! 🤣😷

[@nickh.4722]

Noble Records 🤣 Excellent! They have flames on them too, right?

[@dogpoundoatthetube7756]

I have well over 1000 records, a good majority being audiophile pressings, all much in mint condition, I Allways used high-end turntables and kept my stylus fresh but a lot of the records have that basement smell, how do you get rid of it?

[@djairjordan]

I'm always curious about some of the hip hop records I have are worth especially alot of the records I have from the rawkus, fondle em and eastern conference since those labels are dead but alot of classic artists and amazing cover art