O'Brien's Plot Against Lady Grantham | Downton Abbey

[@amandaljohnson]

The main reason I could never ever ever ever ever ever ever like O'Brien. What pisses me off the most is that she got away with it and then she had the nerve to act like the most righteous person throughout the rest of her time on the show. love the actress hate the character

[@inarapatton1749]

Yes!! she got away with everything. Made me so mad. But when Mr Bates humbled her that made me happy. She was still a jerk though.

[@Harry-bn5mp]

Its not a baby at that stage...far from it

[@siobhanfinnerfan5846]

really O'Brien is my favourite character she's always so fiesty

[@demonhunter4423]

@@Harry-bn5mp Will you shut up. We're not here to discuss that, we're here to discuss the stupid O'Brien and how she got away with it.

[@demonhunter4423]

The actress is amazing at making you hate her character. That's how you know the actor is good as a vilian.

[@levinsonmannion7208]

I love the realisation dawning on O'Briens face when she realises that she is not being sacked!

[@jehannethompson1432]

I loved it

[@vanstan7929]

Siobhan Finneran is amazing

[@anniewallace3601]

And the fear she feels thinking gosh what have I done? If they find out I'll for sure be sacked.

[@DamnDemi]

Ms O'Brien really should've been brought to justice in some way. That was pure evil.

[@nina1522]

I like to think that being Susan's lady's maid and putting up with her was kind of her punishment. Besides, O'Brien really was remorseful about what she did, which is why she tried to take such good care of Cora when she had Spanish flu.

[@maxpower2093]

Why did she do that?

[@dustbucketau]

@@maxpower2093 she thought she was being replaced and acted out, then discovers at the end of the video the advert/conversation was about hiring someone for violet, not cora (and replacing o'brien). The actress quit the show in between seasons I believe, so they couldn't really do anything other than hastily write her out

[@priam9376]

This baby could've had a future, their parents wanted them, the parents are brokenhearted, and she did all of it for what ? Out of spite ? Because she BELIEVED she was going to be replaced. That woman is sick.

[@Rapunzel-pp5ec]

😍😍😍

[@zyxw2024]

It's fiction, dear.

[@alfiewood7978]

Don’t talk to Janice like dat

[@fanni24]

And Cora was never really bad to O'Brien, she was always respectful and kind towards the people who worked around them, she relied strongly on O'Brien when the baby was gone, too. O'Brien was a terrible person, she was willing to cause so much pain for two parents and literally the loss of a child because she misunderstood a conversation that she's overheard.

[@Macgyrl64]

It reflects some humans perfectly. People take vengeance on others based on similar occurrences, eg. half truths, outward lies.

[@ReggieGurl04]

“You are sailing perily close to wind O’Brien.” Said everything in that sentence and never raised her voice. 👑

[@ReggieGurl04]

@@Hannari-xt6nr Autocorrect can sabotage us sometimes. Just enjoy the quote and move on.

[@pacnwguy9056]

@@ReggieGurl04 Nah, I'll have more fun typing it out. perilously*

[@urnotreal420]

To be honest, ive never seen this show. It popped up in my recommended. The best 7 minutes and 33 seconds of my life. Im gonna start watching this.

[@subterraneanhomesickalien666]

That's what happened to me. I kept getting these videos recommended and still do. After watching so many I finally started watching the show. It's so good. Just started the 2nd season.

[@gee2541]

have fun. it's addicting lol

[@sybylo]

Oh how I wish i could be you and watch it for the 1st time all over again

[@Macgyrl64]

I binge watched it. I would watch an episode at lunch, right before and after dinner. It was mad crazy but oh so good.

[@vikinggoddess2126]

Watched all of them. One of the best period dramas on television.

[@bobbidazzler1343]

Siobhan Finneran is a brilliant actress. X

[@LucyLovettLestrange]

She enjoyed being on the show very much

[@ohdiggy8038]

She and Rob James-Collier are such brilliant baddies in this.

[@garethbowen9894]

I don't understand why she hasn't won a BAFTA yet

[@gingerbaker4390]

She's evil

[@sybylo]

@@ohdiggy8038 She said it in an interview.

[@brianwillard7044]

I love how Cora could rip someone to shreds and never raise her voice. Did Cora ever find out the truth about the soap?

[@veronicawatson2525]

No

[@lindaandersen5723]

No, the only one who knew was Barrow but he had secrets of his own and he knew O'Brien would not hesitate to tell if pushed into a corner. A few seasons later she left for a new family travelling overseas and never came back.

[@frozenchipmunk4]

I remember she left because I believe Barrow told Bates who used it against her. He whispered “her ladyship’s soap” to her, and snuck out that night.

[@ramsesdie9999]

frozenchipmunk4 I think not, O’brien left after the travel to the Highlands where she was hired by Lady Flintshire

[@junguoye5404]

no, never

[@Star-dj1kw]

I like the complexities of these scenes, specifically how we watch O’Brien move through the emotions of indignation, revenge, regret, and that ‘OMG face’ when the Dowager tells her the lady’s maid Lady Cora was looking for was for her!!

[@FannyDash]

when Cora is silent it is the most dangerous Situation. She never shouts she stays calm and puts people in their Place. I really love her and wish to be more like her.

[@safespacebear]

Robert: "sorry to embarrass you" Bates: "I'm not embarrassed" OUCH! That always kills me

[@rabiespuddings1735]

Safe Space Bear Everything hurts ;D .....

[@nina1522]

Bates is fiercely loyal to the people he loves.

[@DogeSpeaks]

This is how insecure people self-sabotage. Anger, unforgiveness, and pessimism ruin your potential happiness if you let them consume you. O'Brien learns this the hard way.

[@kimquinn7728]

Absolutely. O'Brien ASSUMED. You know what happens when you assume....

[@mzt8787]

Lucky for O'Brien, she got away with it. In reality, our self-sabotage truly does something harmful

[@nina1522]

Thomas did as well. They were two peas in a pod in that way.

[@AidiaP]

Did she? Learn it?

[@DogeSpeaks]

@@AidiaP To the day she was written off the show, she bitterly regretted doing that to Cora. She regretted it so much that she began to distance herself from Thomas when he threatened to expose Mary through Vera Bates and bring “shame to her lady”. She never again made a rash decision in the show solely on emotion or insecurity. It was always calculated and smart.

[@safespacebear]

O'Brien did a lot of terrible things, but nothing tops this. I think at times she wanted to be a better person but her nature always got in the way. I don't hate her but "her ladyship's soap" is not something one comes back from.

[@BlukeArt]

I think she more felt class conflict. And her anger at the system got the better of her, her and Tom Branson were kinda similar in that regard but Tom was an optimist mostly, whereas O'brien was nihilistic.

[@ohdiggy8038]

She really crossed the line there into sociopathy. I can see how Cora's delicate snobbery could have been beyond annoying for her but the "her ladyship's soap" incident is unjustifiable. It's not funny anymore.😦

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

I hate her.

[@luckycharms7572]

@@ohdiggy8038 what did the soap do?

[@ohdiggy8038]

@@luckycharms7572 It's been a while since I've watched Downton, but I think it was deliberately placed for Cora to slip on causing her to fall and resulting in the miscarriage of her unborn child. If I remember correctly it was also a boy which is significant because she and her husband had three daughters but no sons, so learning it was a male child complicated their grief. Grief, loss, Cora's physical suffering, death of the child. The point is this was no accident and wasn't a spontaneous abortion mother nature style. O'Brien deliberately made this happen. She had intent. Also, the punishment didn't fit the crime. O'Brien felt slighted by Cora sure. That's understandable and relatable. Her feelings are justified. But she chose to take things to a whole other level when she harmed Cora and murdered the child. And she enjoyed doing it. And she felt no remorse afterwards.

[@jazzycat8917]

As far as I'm concerned, this was attempted murder against Cora. She was intending to cause any harm possible, and the sheer possibilty that Cora could have hit her head on the tub or floor on the way down and been killed was clearly accounted for. Doesn't matter that she had second thoughts, in that moment she was perfectly willing to orchestrate Cora's death.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Not attempted. Intentionally causing someone to miscarry their child (when it isn’t an abortion they consented to) IS MURDER.

[@horsegirlb7120]

@@Edmonton-of2ec Agreed, but it can be both. Could press on both counts

[@brockreynolds870]

These people are rich beyond imagination, foolish of them to not have SOMETHING next to a tub to prevent slip and falls.

[@SapphireSloane]

Moral of the story: Watch your mouth and don’t jump to conclusions. You might always do something you regret while making impetuous decisions.

[@errrno1761]

o’brien: im sorry but i have standards o’brien’s hair: 👁👄👁

[@Jyotipal09]

😂😂

[@rolfkrajewski4975]

😂😂🤣

[@Person-by6vd]

Quite true.

[@zaqwanbadli9697]

But that's stylish! CURLY BANGS

[@pablovinicius2212]

yeahhhhhhh

[@CeltycSparrow]

She's a "treasure" alright. She just MURDERED a baby for no reason whatsoever. She thought she was being replaced and it was a COMPLETELY different position they were filling. Honestly, she should have been sacked for what she did. Poor Cora.

[@taroman7100]

No way slipping out of the tub would have "murdered" the baby. Babies float in water inside the womb. It would take a real hit for her to miscarry and how is it that she just happened to step down right on that bar of soap?

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@taroman7100 Are you seriously trying to defend O'brien?

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

@@taroman7100 Sybil was 18, so Cora was probably 40 or older, that itself is a big risk. Even a simple fall can cause a miscarriage in a young woman, so imagine the severity in an older woman.

[@arianebolt1575]

@@taroman7100 Hitting the baby isn't the only concern. Trauma to the placenta can knock it loose and kill both of them. Sheer force can break the waters. Concussions can shock the whole system and set off labor.

[@taroman7100]

In reality, the fetus is quite protected in the womb. It would take a much harder knock than that to bring on a miscarriage. It's only a 'soap' opera.

[@12classics39]

I cannot believe she seriously thought that getting fired justified murdering an unborn child. NOTHING warrants that! She knew how much Cora and Robert wanted that child, that they didn’t want to get rid of it. This was truly an abominable and unforgivable thing that she did. Thomas would never go as far as this; while O’Brien killed Cora’s would-be son, Thomas saved Cora’s daughter from a fire.

[@corsariocapitao]

In my opinion, I don't believe O'Brien fully grasped the severity of her actions in that moment or thought her actions were justified. She made the floor slippery, but she could not have known that it would lead to Cora losing the baby. I believe this wasn't a carefully planned act of revenge for being fired, but rather a spontaneous outburst fueled by intense anger. O'Brien is a proud and nasty person. I think she felt betrayed and had a momentary, impulsive outburst driven by her intense emotions. In her anger and belief that Cora intended to unjustly dismiss her, she made a rash decision without fully understanding the potentially tragic consequences. The regret she shows moments after highlights her realization, finally thinking rationally. Personally, I prefer this interpretation as it paints a more complex picture of human behavior under extreme emotional duress, where actions can have far-reaching and devastating consequences, even if not initially intended.

[@leoncarrillo89]

​@@corsariocapitaoagreed. However, there is already regret when she comes out of the bathroom and tells to herself "this is not you" when she saw herself in the mirror. She was coming into her senses.

[@katherinewilson1853]

@@corsariocapitao I agree. I think O'Brien echoes a lot of people, in that she echoes others' opinions, has occasionally shallow emotions, but can be both good and evil. She is impulsive and her actions show her as a very human person, like when the Dowager and Cora are looking for ladies' maids, she immediately concludes Cora is scheming to fire her, because it's something she would do.

[@tiwantiwaabibiman2603]

Evil people do evil things. Parasites do what parasites do. She killed her unborn child. Technically if she were in the states today, she'd more than go to jail...

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

@@corsariocapitaoUnfortunately we never see any evidence that O’Brien is anything but a selfish, impetuous and cruel person who doesn’t care about other people. Even most of her good actions are to assuage her own guilt or are directly to her benefit. Or just to spite someone else

[@GundemaroSagrajas]

i LOVE O'Brien's character. I mean, I didn't actually like her, but she adds such great drama to the series and the way she comes to bitterly regret her scheming and plotting is just masterful.

[@zerjiozerjio]

Thank you! Everyone should be so grateful that she’s there, full of spite and mean-spiritednesses. And then her redeeming herself (sort of) during the plague. Excellent drama!

[@narcissa6581]

Same! And the actress who plays her is simply brilliant in this role, I adore her.

[@JZHerrenberg]

Sterling writing, perfect acting.

[@InAnotherTimeGirl]

Every episode was perfection from start to finish.

[@jorgeclow]

1:45 I love how Anna manages to keep herself away from the evil plots. There is probably a lot of people who identifies with her behavior even nowadays in the corporate world. One of my favorite characters along with Sybil and Thomas.

[@aaa-kw4gt]

Anna doesn’t keep herself away from the evil plot here, she’s just going to work. Also what O’brien said was based on truth. As many employees viewed servants as a commodity that they could just toss aside

[@bellehogel8665]

It always bothered me that Cora never found out. It could have easily been put in the letter when O’Brian left.

[@bellehogel8665]

True. I still think something should have been done though. Bates and Thomas found out (not all the details in Bates case) but Kora never did.

[@ecaldwell9]

@@bloxybuildz5753 - because she can’t take the overwhelming guilt?

[@luciancombs4463]

O'brien was the perfect villain for this show. She did awful things and was completely self serving, but she knew her awfulness had boundaries. She acted too late on this one, but she truly regretted what she did, and tried to stop it seconds before it happened. And she almost destroyed Thomas, who had it coming, but him and Lady Edith had the best character development of anyone else.

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

Hugh Bonneville cries so convincingly :( excellent acting, all of his crying scenes moved me to tears. This one especially, and the one where Cora blames him for Sybil's death

[@leenaleewitch3731]

Free speech exist Mrs Hughes: "I don't think so!"

[@5iveshot170]

“Not when I’m in charge!” Hahahaha

[@ihavetwofaces]

I've always loved Cora's face when Mrs Hughes walks in during that first scene. She's like "✨🥰 here's the button we were missing ☺️😇" and then a moment later she's like "but I was shocked🔪🤬😤😠 at what I heard."

[@jeremymiller9582]

I think we’ve all been there once or twice. A moment - though perhaps not as grave as this - where we had already felt bad for having taken a petty revenge, hurt someone important to us out of carelessness, or said something cruel to a friend out of insecurity. Even though we see in hindsight that it was silly or shameful, we can still hold on to whatever motivated us to feel upset in the first place. They hurt us first. Then we realize one way or the other that we hadn’t understood the situation. That we betrayed that person twice; once when we refused to believe their story, and the second when we took that revenge. One of the worst feelings, as if ice is running down the back of your neck.

[@nina1522]

04:19 Yes, O'Brien, this is exactly who you are.

[@morbius109]

The Granthams were blessed with a son and O’Brien’s pettiness killed him. My greatest regret with the show is that Cora never found out. If she had, O’Brien would’ve ended up in a jail cell, not working for the governor’s wife in India.

[@taroman7100]

In reality that baby would not have been miscarried by a fall. The fetus is quite protected in the womb from jolts worse than a fall.

[@marionarda2790]

I never got why Thomas never told . Especially in season 3 when she was out to get him outed and sacked ( she technically did succeed , Robert just did not care )

[@jaccat4336]

@@marionarda2790I never got that either! When you have that kind of dirt on someone they can’t touch you. He knows her darkest secret and didn’t use that immediately to shut her down. Waited till his life was in ruins 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

@@marionarda2790 not sure what that punishment would be. Since it was done with a clear motive, she could've been hanged for murder. I'm pretty sure Thomas would not want her killed just because she tried to get him fired

[@marionarda2790]

@@бронза.вафля.конус not just fired , fired with no reference . Which meant unemployable. Especially if it became known . O Brien left the soap , she didn t stab a baby , she would not have been hanged

[@hemingway7952]

beautiful costumes, millinery, jewels, sets, fabulous acting superb, loved this series, totally addictive

[@nycot107]

Cora lecturing O'Brien about gossiping and talking about people and things that are none of her business is great, she always thinks she can say what she wants because she thinks no one is listening.

[@5iveshot170]

1:28 Thomas got told! 🤣 Go Mrs Hughes!

[@maryc2583]

why have you stopped posting I really want to see more of these videos please start posting videos again I really miss watching these

[@christina.v.]

Of course the victim here is Cora but I always feel bad for O’ Brien too. She made a decision which she regretted instantly, she tried to fix it but it was too late. And it becomes more tragic to me when I see how nicely she treats Cora after this incident, it just shows how awful she feels and that she never forgot it or forgave herself.

[@ork4661]

I believe people don’t realize the servants sacrifice everything for the family they serve. She doesn’t have a husband, a child she works long hours and have very few possibilities to get to a better position. Cora could have been a bit smarter and not ask her questions like « how long does it take for a maid to settle ». Cora being part of the Crawleys she doesn’t have the empathy required to see how hurt O’Brien was

[@christina.v.]

OR Cora appeared so careless obviously because it didn’t even cross her mind that O’ Brien could interpret the things she said like that. But yes, she could’ve thought about that.

[@Brioche16]

This is exactly it! But everyone wants to think that she’s pure evil while I don’t think she is totally. I felt bad for both of them.

[@jayt9608]

If you listen she says, "This is not you!" She then hastily calls out attempting to have her mistress wait, but it was too late. Her face is stricken with horror at the scream. It is then obvious that she is consumed with guilt for her crime, though she never confesses, and every statement becomes a further grinding of salt into her wounded conscience.

[@ladyrumn6403]

Cora look so beautiful here 💕

[@Diamondelle84]

0:45 Just shut up, O'Brian 🤦‍♀️

[@Ladypeace12312]

"Who says that".... "The law and parliament"🤣

[@5iveshot170]

“Not when I’m in charge!” 🤣

[@skyhigh33716]

She is not a happy woman...something happened in her story that she acts that ways...evil

[@Sol-fo2zu]

I agree. Watched all 6 seasons and was always hoping for more info on her backstory :p

[@patcola7335]

​@@Sol-fo2zuNone of us are"good" in the absolute sense. That's why we need the righteousness of Christ ! Believe the gospel of jesus's death, burial and Resurrection for our sins according to the scriptures and you shall be saved 1st Corinthians 15:1-4

[@naturalbby1722]

“Dear O’Brien, how sweet you are” I really hope Lady Grantham found out about the “her ladyship’s soap” incident! O’Brien literally killed Cora’s unborn baby

[@taroman7100]

She did not kill the baby because it would take more than a fall out of the tub to jolt a miscarriage. Read up about it.

[@naturalbby1722]

@@taroman7100 of course that may not have been the only reason but it definitely matters abs it doesn’t show compassion for others

[@l.a.3479]

Unfortunately, Lady Grantham didn't find out.

[@l.a.3479]

​@@taroman7100 I disagree

[@aperson22222]

Not really a plot, was it? Just an impulsive, spur-of-the-moment decision.

[@redhot654]

I feel like that's what makes it so realistic

[@aperson22222]

Emma Murty I don’t disagree, but the video should be retitled.

[@shaungordon9737]

It suits the story line

[@arianebolt1575]

Opportunity presented itself.

[@inarapatton1749]

I always wished she would’ve gotten found out cause babyyyyy she made my blood boil lol I couldn’t stand her 😩😂 I wish they would bring Downton Back 😭

[@karenax254]

O'Brian is an excellent actress. In fact all of them are.

[@TJD63]

Watching this again makes me realize how much the loss of this baby boy affected so much to come after e.g. the issue of the heir etc.

[@jgrab1]

Boy, this *is* fiction. If a servant had acted the way O'Brien does at the beginning of this clip, she'd be out on her keyster instantly. Even today, let alone the Edwardian era.

[@5iveshot170]

Well I guess Americans could’ve been more forgiving.. I wouldn’t be surprised as they were known for being progressive and soft! Plus O’Brien was an excellent and loyal lady’s maid to Cora who might’ve been hard to replace.. But she was very close to firing her!

[@aet5807]

I often thought that. I watched the original Upstairs Downstairs, and Mr Hudson wouldn’t have let any of that go on. Also there was no “we are friends” between servants and upper class.

[@amberanime]

I mean I would not sack somebody that worked for me for years because I catch hem gossiping in the servant hall, which is their place. Getting a whole new person is a whole lot of fuss. I would not want to go trough the process of getting somebody new unless I absolutely had too, and I do agree they are entiteld to their opinions and feelings, as long as it doesn't show. If they dont like my guest thats fine, as long as they be polite to my guest all the same. I dont believe for a second people where sacked in edwardian era's for one time being cought complaining. People complain all the time about all sorts of things. As long as they do their job and do it well, there is no reason to sack. Servants are still people. I dont think every noble would forget that just because they are rich. Convinience is worth something also, and having a steady face around is prefered over new faces all the time. This is not wallmart. Servants where not as often replaced if they did their job well and didn't leave on their own accord. As long as O'Brien wasn't rude to Crawly in his face she IS entiteld to her opinions on him. I dont like her, I dont agree with her opinion on Matthew, but I do agree with her that she has every right to feel what she feels and not be dictated on what her opinions can be. Cora can only judge her on her work and her profesionalism upstairs, not her more private behavior downstairs.

[@medusawitchful]

Nah my cousin can’t even raise her voice against housemaid who steal her things.

[@gamitaalfonso9999]

@@5iveshot170 I think you’re spot on! The dowager countess would’ve seen O’Brien off in an instant for that, but Cora’s Americanness made her slightly more egalitarian.

[@warrenk83]

Kinda chilling that even O'Brien herself realised the evil she had just started, but alas, it was too late to correct.

[@Luke-rm1kw]

I love seeing O'Brien realize she had been so wrong in her assumptions, that she had let her spite cloud her judgment so completely

[@christianbolze7092]

What an incredible actress

[@zerjiozerjio]

I love O’Brien. She’s one of the few complex characters in the show. She’s a fabulous villain, and yet is not a cartoon of a person. She has guilt and a conscience. She did wrong, but one could understand her motives (even if they’re still wrong). And what an excellent actress to portray her! I LOOOOVE her, and was not surprised to learn she’s the creator’s favorite character as well.

[@connormacleod7010]

Thank you for the Great video

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

Such beautiful acting. I'm sad the owner of this channel is not uploading anymore clips.

[@Eowyn3Pride]

It's addictive...I could watch the whole series and the movie from beginning to end! Fun fact...my gr gr gr grandfather was footman to a Duke in England! I am proud to know some of the family was in service!🥰

[@MarkT1700]

That's so cool!

[@DizzyKizzy64]

I keep watching snippets of Downtown on KZbin, but IV got season one downloaded and ready to become addicted to it and Binge away 🙂

[@KingGhidorah5464]

Bates’ reaction in the background when O’Brien didn’t relent said it all, wincing at her being her own worst enemy

[@harringt100]

This was one of the few times Mrs. Hughes made me kind of mad. "There is such a thing as free speech." "Not when I'm in charge." It also surprises me how much Cora cringes about her mother coming over.

[@coasterfrk100]

I know it would have been forbidden back then but it would have been nice if Bates could have given Lord Grantham a hug after telling him "it would have been a boy"

[@Richardsonprincess00]

Revenge might be sweet for payback, but the consequences for this maid is painful that the lady of the house lost this unborn child

[@jarrodbarkley9061]

The "miscarriage by soap" was very unbelievable to me. She'd have to be sure to step on it without looking, and most falls to the floor don't cause a miscarriage.

[@debra2700]

Not to mention the fact that Cora is righthanded when she holds silverware so she wouldn't have gotten out of the tub on the left side hoisting herself out with her less dominate arm. The whole thing was bizarre.

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

@@debra2700 You have the keen sense of a detective.

[@l.a.3479]

Jarrod: You've obviously never experienced pregnancy. I disagree.

[@Sunshine-zm1fx]

Sometimes you have to embrace your suspension of disbelief and just accept the story that the storyteller is trying to tell. All writers are not created equal. All directors, all actors are not created equal. Sometimes you just have to suspend your disbelief and accept the story that's being told.

[@Sliverbane]

It is a bit over the top. I had to consider she fell in to the side of the baths edge striking her pelvis violently. Which may have caused the growing placenta to detach from the uterine wall. Granted it probably would have taken several days for her to miscarry....but, alas. I kinda wish some internet sleuth could do a 3D reenactment of the possibilities.

[@ly9386]

DOWNTON ABBEY YOUR COMING BACK

[@connormacleod7010]

Keep up the Great work

[@SeanPatric_Colwyn]

I don't understand how O'brien got away with leaving the other half of the soap bar under the tub. Wouldn't that be carelessness in her work? A baby's death because of it, how was she not fired?

[@DogNamedWatson]

I mean, Cora literally told her it's okay to leave the other half under the tub

[@hollisjo4023]

I mean, as Dr. Clarkson spoke of, there was a broad chance she would miscarry anyways because of her age, so I was kind of just waiting for her to lose the baby honestly. But when I looked back at this scene and realized Obrian put that soap there so she would fall, I was absolutely shocked and saddened.

[@chanaberlove8720]

How old do you think she was ready? Sybil was 18, Mary was maybe 21. She was at most 42. Many people have babies at that age especially when they have had one before successfully.

[@DogNamedWatson]

@@chanaberlove8720 You have to remember the time period. Even today pregnancies in a person's 40s are termed "geriatric" and are treated specially + are watched more carefully. This is the Edwardian era, where maternal mortality rates were still extremely high, and they didn't have the same methods of care we have today. My mother had my brother at 43, and it involved taking medicine to increase her progesterone and months of bedrest. I can't speak for all women who have babies after 40, but it's almost certainly harder for them than it is for a woman who is younger

[@Celisar1]

There is not a „broad chance“ of miscarriage when you get older but of genetic abnormalities. That’s something different.

[@Celisar1]

@@DogNamedWatson Wrong. This nonsensical and misogynistic term hasn’t been used for decades anymore.

[@Celisar1]

@@DogNamedWatson PS The treatment and bed rest you describe in your mother is not representative

[@eharper7]

I never grinned as broadly as I did when O'Brien found out she screwed up.

[@HookedOnSonics518]

I loved seeing that she jumped to conclusions and that guilt eating at her.

[@betaniasebastianlopes6569]

And now you have become her

[@LifeinYellowknife]

I keep having these videos pop up on my feed and it breaks my heart that Downton Abbey is over! It’s by far the best show to have ever been made! Miss it so much!

[@levinsonmannion7208]

I love Cora! I love her standing up for her family, also I love when Mrs Hughes gets angry! Also, O'Brien deserves a slap when ever she insulted Cora, a really hard one! AND THE SOAP!!! I want to hit her so hard till she is begging for mercy, poor Cora and the baby! I cry when ever I hear that scream coming from the bathroom

[@aurorerich]

Wash she pregnant?

[@alextirrellRI]

@@aurorerich Yup. That's why Lord Grantham was crying and found out it was going to be a boy.

[@l.a.3479]

You're no better than O'Brien, wanting to slap and hit her. Physical violence is rarely the answer.

[@kauztuv]

O Brian you wretch, may you live forever

[@robinhartman6275]

O’Brien has blood on her hands.

[@Harry-bn5mp]

Its not a baby at that stage...far from it

[@logiciansvlog5800]

@@Harry-bn5mp shut up

[@Harry-bn5mp]

@@logiciansvlog5800 What? Am I wrong?

[@logiciansvlog5800]

@@Harry-bn5mp yes.

[@Harry-bn5mp]

@@logiciansvlog5800 Ok. Explain.

[@DarkSpells87]

But it is not much of a shock that O'Brien did what she did. First, if we look at her character, she is resentful and bitter. She is also not a very nice person. But I don't believe she was evil. What triggered her in bathroom was Cora asking about opinion on maids which at that moment O'Brien took as being ridiculed. If we take that, combine it with her thinking she will be sacked plus her overall personality it is no wonder she acted out at the moment of rage. She quickly realized her mistake and just as she wanted to rectify it Cora had an accident. Then she spent most of her time in Downton trying to redeem the unredeemable. Certainly a complex character, well written and overall added to the richness of the cast. I miss well written character in shows...

[@kerriethompson2073]

I'm rewatching the series and I HATED O'Brien from the start! I lost all respect for her the minute she kicked Bates' cane right from under him to make him look incompetent at his job. Who does that?

[@shan0997]

Same here! I truly despised her character.

[@ThatgirlL18]

Same!!!! What a nasty person to do something like that.

[@mycatsheenacashappid4240]

I love this show. O'Brien is one of my favorite character's, she's so cunning.

[@abhilashmishra3601]

when I watched the last episode of Season 1, I was so sure that the first episode of Season 2 will start with O'Brien jumping off from the roof of the Abbey 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@martinjenkins6467]

The guilt O'Brien must felt when the Dowager told her she was looking for A lady's maid, would have been unbearable.

[@lexsmith8689]

I can hardly imagine how shattered and distraught she must´ve been when she finally collected what she had done and on what basis.. and let´s not throw stones - we all have these moments when we did a "nasty nasty" to someone.. even if the grounds for doing it were unjustified and based solely on merely hints and overhearings.. her greatest mistake was to not being truly open to Cora and using her position to soothe her deflated ego and looking down on the others while tattling to Cora if she ever "discovered" anything "unusual".. sadly her calculative nature was stronger for those two minutes.. and of course she had been plaqued with remorse ever since.. the horror when she realized and the guilt must´ve been punishment pretty much itself.. and looking at it, she didn´t truly got away with it cuz she was forced to leave..

[@fanni24]

She left because Rose's mother was travelling to India and she invited O'Brien with her secretly. She was very envious of the hair styles Cora had and wanted to get it for herself. O'Brien left without notice in the middle of the night.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

I've never killed a baby. I'm disgusted so many people liked your comment.

[@lexsmith8689]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362 life is pain GET OVER IT!! and FYI it's just a serial.. Plus I didn't justify anywhere her wrong doings now DID I?!!

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@lexsmith8689 It's a series not serial. Life is pain and O'Brien should have suffered far more than what she did.

[@patriciaoconnor402]

O'Brien, you killed a baby for nothing.

[@pamelagrimes3453]

Love Elizabeth McGovern and how she played Cora ❤😊 Luv Luv Luv!!!

[@tfh5575]

"wuh yew discussing mista cruwlay?"

[@nina1522]

Can you please upload the clip when Robert sees Teo the puppy for the first time?

[@__seeker__]

The fact that the writers made O’Brien a smoker was quite meaningful. In those days, women generally didn’t smoke. It was considered masculine and expressly unfeminine. For women, it was considered a sign of loose morals and/or a gruff unrefined nature.

[@jazzycat8917]

Rose is a smoker as well

[@thesweatynoob7841]

Can post the scene where bertie and edith get back together at the ritz

[@olivia-jaynedeery331]

I am so sorry for your loss my darling love 💔

[@squireob]

1:48 Ah, but Anna becomes Mary's good friend, O'Brien, and it works out well for both of them. I'm disappointed in my kinswoman.

[@riyamorais9179]

Siobhan Finneran is an amazing actor

[@connormacleod7010]

They could make five more movies of Downton Abbey if they wanted to

[@gpg9516]

Finneran was so good in ‘The Stranger’ as well. O Brien’s arc does eventually reveal her tender side despite her abrupt departure.

[@amberanime]

Unpopular opinion but this is actualy the scene that made me like her. She showed a real human side, she did something she knew was wrong, and was on her way to stop it when it went wrong. It wasn't untill after it had gone wrong. Now it was before. She acted in a moment of pure anger, which many MANY people do. If you cant admit to yourself you never would have done something to harm somebody if given the chance in that moment of time after they badly hurt you your lying. We all have ugly moments. Some of us dont realise it's ugly untill way later, if ever. Some realise it the moment they've done something ugly. In my opinion, people who did something, then immidiatly try to undo it before real harm is done, show they are at heart good people who lost to an impulse in that moment. People are not their last act. People do amazing things, and ugly things. O'brian was a damaged and hurt women, but at heart she was not evil at all. She is very human, and maybe thats why people dislike her so much, She shows us a part of humanity we dont like to possess, but know we have in us. She and Thomas where not bad people. They where damaged people who sometimes did bad things. But it does not define them. O''brien looking in the mirror, telling herself thats not who she is, is a powerfull scene to me, as thats a step most people dont even take when they are in their ugly mode. Most have it later. She took control of it fast, sadly not fast enough for Cora but even so. Buisides, Cora should have watched where she stepped.. she is not a helpless child. She knows soap had fallen down there. You check before you step out of a bath! Even more, you hold onto the bath as you get out so you dont slip with your wet feet. Slipping on anything whilst getting out shows a lack of paying attention. That is your own responsibility. People could scatter 20 soap bars next to my bath before I got out and I would not slip because I actualy watch where I put my feet. Why wouldn't you? Especialy when pregnant come on..

[@saberthecoolest]

The thing is, even if one is careful, you can still miss something if you’re tired or thinking of something else. Blaming the person who got hurt FOR getting hurt because of someone else’s spur of the moment spitefulness is probably not the way to go…

[@ttselha64]

Rather a lack of compassion for Cora and the baby.

[@ginadisbrow9324]

I was elated when O'Brien left. She should've been sacked much earlier. Now she's Rose's nasty mama's problem. They deserve each other. I just wished Bates had let Mary know about the 'soap secret' before she got away. Mary would've been the go-to girl to give O'Brien the beat-down she deserved! 😂

[@ThatgirlL18]

That’s the scene we needed. O’Brien got off too easy.

[@morningdew2309]

Negative thoughts and suspicions about people always leads to these kinds of things. Now she's wronged someone in a way that she can't reverse.

[@robertsilva8097]

O'Brien that character was so stupid her ladyship was looking for another maid for another family member O'Brien. She was going to be replaced after 20-plus years then she felt dumb when she found out the truth the maid was for another person when her ladyship was sick with a 1918 flu O'Brien do not leave her side for 72 hours straight

[@gulliblegiraffe]

This was so evil, killing someones child is not in any shape or form a fair response to maybe being fired. Argh I hate her I get so mad about this scene

[@marionarda2790]

That s O Brien . She brings nuclear weapons to a fist fight. Thomas refused to help her nephew become a valet weeks after becoming à footman , she schemed for weeks to get him outed and sent to jail ( and it worked beautifully , as most her schemes did , lord Grantham just knew and cared very little about Thomas sexuality)

[@Line...]

ok so I guess you have posted the entire show now

[@swooningtree]

The only problem I have with this storyline is that it's a bit contrived to have us believe O'Brien knew exactly where Cora was going to put her foot when she stepped out of the bath

[@mia4224]

I hate that O'Brian involvement in the miscarriage never came out. I wanted her punished for her doing.

[@ollietwist9894]

I guess I need to watch this again, how did Bates find out?

[@connormacleod7010]

In the movie Downton Abbey when you see mr. Carson walking to the main house you could see the pride in His step you can see the pride in his eyes

[@paulchamvuthipreecha5997]

She is the best character in Downton.

[@zerjiozerjio]

By far!!!

[@anayadegani626]

When O'Brien tells Cora to wait after realising what she did wrong at that moment Cora slips was so heartbreaking for me. O'Brien realised what she did and wanted to stop it but it was too late

[@India.H]

When she looked in the mirror and went "Sarah O'brien, this is not who you are." I had a lot of respect for her. It's a pity her realisation came too late.

[@rayleigh8]

O’Brien got away with everything. Even when the lady catches her speaking badly of Matthew, she lets it slide even with O’Brien not showing any contrition about it.

[@marionarda2790]

Yep . Kick Bates cane : nothing . Convinces Thomas to steal the wine : he gets caught not her . Writes to Vera, gets Bates sentenced to death : nothing . Manipulates everyone so that Thomas gets outed and sent to jail : nothing . While he knew the truth ( and lord and lady Grantham cared way more about their future son than who Thomas wanted to kiss)

[@rayleigh8]

@@marionarda2790 I know!!!! She got away with everything and never suffered any comeuppance. At least Thomas got his comeuppance a couple of times and he changed for good. And when Thomas was confronted about something, he at least fainted contrition and a mea culpa. But with O’Brien even when she’s caught, her attitude is, so what, what are you gonna do about it.

[@marionarda2790]

@@rayleigh8 Thomas s schemes NEVER worked . O Brien s schemes always did . Even Sybill who loved everyone called her an odious woman

[@rayleigh8]

@@marionarda2790 some of his schemes worked. He wanted to harm the nanny, she got fired. But yeah a lot his schemes came to nothing or he got to pay for them. Big part of the problem with Thomas that he tried to manipulate and even blackmail people to gain power and stuff. People don’t like to be blackmailed or be pushed around, at some point they’ll fight back or not allow it. When he tried to push Tom into giving him a better sit in the car because he caught him upstairs with the teacher, That was just stupid by Thomas. Stuff like that really hurt Thomas a lot.

[@marionarda2790]

@@rayleigh8 hilariously the only schemes that worked were when it was for good , like firing evil nanny West or making sinderby eat his words .

[@WhatAUserName69]

Only came here cuz I saw this while I was watching television and I was like: "....wait my name's Abbey."

[@nanouklezaf4273]

She thought about it but also remade her mind. In the end, she's human. And I can understand that she felt desperate about being sacked.

[@connormacleod7010]

Can you imagine working at a house like this for 30-40 years and then retiring back then can you imagine working until you're 70 years old then retiring mr. Carson was a lucky I remember this one episode The Earl of Grantham told Mr Carson that he could retire live on the property and receive a pension from the state that was a great employer