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The new MacBook Pro's with M2 Pro and M2 Max chips are great machines, but are they enough of an improvement over their predecessors to be worth the extra cost? Let's take a look at what your best option is.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:33 The sweet spot is sweet...
1:10 ...but which is sweeter?
1:38 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro Benchmarks
2:00 A HOT take on the M2 Pro
2:29 The new one has some solid improvements!
2:52 But also some downgrades
3:29 Thanks Squarespace
4:03 The new 14" has a few other tricks up its sleeve
4:52 It's a hard choice, but...

[@macaddress]

Correction: The graph at 1:45 should say "MacBook Pro (M2 Pro)" for the second laptop from the top. Having trouble finding the original comment which pointed this out, but thank you! M2 Pro or M1 Pro? Which MacBook would you choose? Let us know below! Check out the 14" MacBook Pro M2 Pro: lmg.gg/jL7Zq Check out the refurbished 14" MacBook Pro M1 Pro: lmg.gg/6r0D1 Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.

[@DizmusT]

1.5 months with my new M2 Pro 14 (16/512). Got it as an addition to my Desktop (Ryzen 5850X, 64GB RAM, 3080TI). I am a developer: .NET API, Android, iOS, VueJS. My Ryzen seems to be still faster in some dev tasks, especially for Microsoft related technologies. 16GB for Mac seems to be not enough if you plan to run Android/iOS Emulators. My plan is to switch to 32GB/1024 in 6m-12m, probably, it will be already an M3. As an Windows user: MacOS UX objectively sucks ) but I accept that for the performance and versatility of this machine

[@pumpuppthevolume]

xD man I love those scam replies ....it's an account with pic for a completely different youtube channel

[@DenOfTimbsllc]

I will say that I got the M1 Pro this year and it is the best laptop I’ve owned so far! It just works honestly!

[@alberto5147]

Question. Since you're a Canadian channel, why do you list the prices in USD?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@Alberto because big part of the audience is from the US

[@SuperSumalu]

I love the increase in upload frequency lately! Hope the team is settling in well! Keep up the great work!

[@buusucks]

This channel is criminally underrated

[@CJonestheSteam72]

Because they have increased performance from their Macs 😏

[@kavivarman]

Linus probably puts more pressure on him to do so

[@Tintergames]

@@kavivarman On a recent WAN show he mentioned that they have hired a lot recently for Mac Address, it's not just Jonathan anymore but a full team

[@toranshaw4029]

Hopefully it'll only improve, with their upcoming move to the lab!

[@corgistaniel1150]

I feel like it's worth noting that in a lot of places, the M1 Macbooks are still available brand new at a lower price, just not from Apple directly.

[@TheDirge69]

yes this could have been mentioned.. thank you.

[@a1white]

Often cheaper then a refurbished version too

[@thedon1907]

That's how I got my new Mac. Considering the price difference between M1 and M2 Max, so I got an M1 max macbook pro because I saved a ton of money. 1 quarter actually of the M2 max price.

[@cchalogamer]

Yeah I just bought a 14" M1 Pro 10 Core 16GB/1TB in Silver for just a few USD over $1600 from best buy as an open box excellent condition. Random note, I had bought the Space Gray version and received the day before in the same condition looking 100% like new for $310 more after taxes on both so checking colors and all specs for the best deal for YOU is important. Maybe they'll drop the price on the space gray when they get mine back again tomorrow. I felt the money was worth it for the upgrades for my planned use, but the 8 core/512GB M1 was of course cheaper last I looked. B&H had some great deals about an month ago that I missed on new sealed models and I've had solid luck out of BBY's OB offerings.

[@vicruptly8701]

M1 Macbook Pro 16" 16GB RAM and 512 SSD at €1999 is a good deal ?

[@benjisqt]

I have the 14" base M1 Pro model, and I do not regret it a single bit. Knowing I was only like 2 months away from the release of the M2 Pro was a bit gutting, but given that basically the only improvements have been incremental, I'll be sticking with this M1 Pro for years to come!

[@marcocatano554]

Ditto

[@MacGuy3135]

Don't worry, I bought mine the week before the M2 Pro came out as I was *absolutely sure* apple would not reduce the price of the M1 Pro as they did to the M1. I was wrong... It became _£160_ cheaper, an absolute steal...

[@jacdan502]

I have a base M1 mini. It's fine :)

[@Whiskeyj456]

I purposely waited for the M2 pro models to come out so I could score an M1 Pro for a deal. Like new open box at bestbuy for $1400 and I have zero regrets. Came with everything minus one of the Apple stickers and this machine absolutely kicks ass! I could care less about hdmi 2.1 and am happy to have a faster ssd than the M2 variants.

[@benjisqt]

@@Whiskeyj456 100%, I just can't believe apple did the exact same exact thing they did with the M2 Air and Pro, on their highest end laptop as well. Wi-Fi 6E isn't that big of a difference compared to what I've got now, as my internet is plenty fast for what I'm doing with it, and HDMI 2.1 is useless to me given i don't have any 4k 240hz monitors or 8k tv's in my house, as I would assume most people don't either.

[@divadsn]

Honestly I was in the same spot when getting the MBA M2 with 16 GB RAM upgrade last year, but in the end I don't really need the power of a M1/M2 Pro and rather need it to have a long battery life for an entire day, which the MBA definitely has, and with the updated design it was a good purchase in the end.

[@bobbyhinner3225]

I'm leaving towards the air for that reason as well. I have my desktop for power. I need battery life and portable in a laptop

[@divadsn]

@@bobbyhinner3225 exactly, the 14” MBP would be a good option if I wouldn’t already have a high spec desktop at home, to which I can remotely connect from anywhere

[@Two-Stack]

I don’t know a single person in my life that would benefit from a pro over m2 air

[@mbvglider]

@@Two-Stack Never mind performance, you don't know a single person in your life that would benefit from having a much better screen and speakers?

[@User-cb4jm]

@@Two-Stack And? All it means is you probably know non tech savvy people that would be fine on a M1 Air. That’s fine, doesn’t mean the rest of us are like that. OLED level contrast from the miniLED screen, 120hz scrolling, HDMI, SD card reader, better speakers and mics, an actual cooling system, extra USB-C ports and on both sides, slimmer bezels all mean something, beyond just raw performance and graphics. The base M1 Pro 14in frequently went on sale to $1600, which at that price you’d be stupid to buy the 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD M2 Air for the SAME price.

[@illusivedestroyer909]

The m1 air and the M1 Pro 14” are great choices especially since they’re very very often on sale for $799 and $1599

[@XeZrunner]

I got an M1 Air in December for around ~850€ and it's awesome!

[@flashxcate]

In the us 😿 Here in Europe the pro is very expensive

[@rogerlong8493]

I got mine from Costco at $1599

[@ArtyI]

I got my 14" MacBook Pro at that price brand new. It's my first Apple Computer and despite my gripes with the software I absolutely love the hardware

[@adredy]

[@sk8erdude88]

Just came here to see if Mac addressed was hacked yet. God speed to the ltt team today

[@Husleek]

thank god Mac Address isn't banned

[@pumpuppthevolume]

nah mac address is the one we can live without :P .....but they will all be back

[@TerruvianPuff]

@@pumpuppthevolume blasphemy

[@raymondm.3748]

Why would it?

[@abatall]

@@raymondm.3748around this time a bunch of ltt channels got hacked and banned

[@JRJ2000]

Great video. This is exactly what I did. I got the base M1 Pro 14" MacBook Pro when the M2s came out. It was a huge price cut for the thing I was saving for anyway. It's a massive upgrade from my 2015 MacBook Air that I did everything from web design to video editing on. I know I am not using the full potential of this machine, but I love knowing that it will be fast enough for years to come! I strongly reccomend getting the refurbished M1 Pro. It's killer.

[@xPorkchops007x]

Base model M1 Air is still value king. Maybe until 15” MacBook Air comes out things might change.

[@jennwang9666]

I have additional storage at 512gb ssd and if I were to go back I might upgrade to 16gb; but that's cause I play games on my MacBook. Otherwise day to day 8gb ram is more than enough

[@jackcalow2430]

Please change that profile pic 😭

[@SrSpetock]

mac adress remains untouched for now lol

[@daltonblankenship6495]

Came here to check the same thing!

[@ben-vo9wy]

"its their backdoor security"

[@summerslider2487]

What about the others?

[@Dankpodsfan60]

​@@summerslider2487 they might also been hacked, i tried searching techquicke and the results were that linus tech tips got hacked

[@cullenherrera3976]

STAY STRONG MAC ADDRESS THEY CAN'T TAKE YOU ALL

[@summerslider2487]

This one is not gone. For now 😮

[@offroaders123]

Can't believe there's a video for this one out there, it really is a great find at the current moment! Just got the M1 Pro refurbished myself, about two weeks ago. Writing this on that one right now. It's been an outstanding upgrade from my late 2015 iMac, which I think was mainly starting to slow down either from the SATA drive, or GPU aging (random kernel crashes around the sleep-awake cycle). If you're reading this when it's still available to get from the Apple refurbished site, I definitely recommend it if you are currently in need of an upgrade. I didn't realize how great the larger screen is compared to the 13" models either, a nice bonus over the M2 Air if you are debating between that one too. It's the same thing with the ports too, also a nice bonus. I also haven't heard the fans kick up yet, so haven't had to worry about that.

[@Raprada]

How is this channel still haven’t crack 1 million subscribers is baffling. I know that Apple contents aren’t quite suitable for average LTT viewer but John and the rest of Mac Address team made really great content that are pleasant to watch. You guys deserve a lot more 👏🏻

[@Ryan-ct3rv]

I think Linus said Mac address is still exceeding expectations for growth

[@mbvglider]

It's a Mac content channel that doesn't review Apple products or discuss Apple rumors or news. It isn't really trying to appeal to Apple fans. With that in mind, to have more than 500k subscribers already is a lot. That's more than Luke Miani, for instance, and he's a top Apple KZbinr in my book.

[@wta1518]

@@mbvglider Mac Address is also one of the only Apple channels that doesn't just simp for Apple.

[@mbvglider]

@@wta1518 I dunno, most Apple channels are hypercritical of Apple a lot of the time because that generates clicks, too. Anyway, sure, Jonathan "doesn't just simp for Apple," but given that he doesn't even cover Apple releases at all, it often feels more like a lifestyle channel than a tech channel at times. It's an interesting premise for a channel because it tries to cover Apple in a way that basically no tech channel tries to cover tech.

[@mbvglider]

Like imagine if Dave2D, Hardware Unboxed, or Jarrod's Tech just started covering hardware mostly from a long term lifestyle perspective and rarely unveiled new stuff or did full reviews and benchmarks. It could be cool, but you'd have to admit that it would ultimately limit their appeal.

[@MarbsMusic]

Last summer we needed another laptop, when the specs were released for the M2 Air we decided to spend a little more and get a 14" Pro base. In December another old laptop bit the dust so we bought another... a few weeks later the M2 came out. We evaluated the "estimated" increases and my son felt like having to reinstall everything would be more of a hassle and the M1 Pro base was more than fast enough for what he was doing (school work and light Final Cut at school). Another son will need one this summer but the case then may be a 15" MBA vs the 14" M2 Pro... we shall see. To me, and I have a 16" M1 Pro I got at release, the 14" Mx Base is the best bang for buck laptop. The screen alone to me is worth the price over the air and the size is perfect... big enough but not as large as the 16" which is more cumbersome than expected.

[@Charos131656]

I recently went through this exact dilemma and landed on the refurb largely because of your video talking about how good the refurb store is. I would have loved 1 tb but it just wasn’t feasible. I briefly considered a new MBA but felt like at the price, especially with storage upgrade it just didn’t make sense. I also really wanted the new form factor. Realistically an M1 air with the nice new design upgrades to 1 tb probably would have gotten my buy too.

[@bubblesnopemporium5880]

I got a 1TB m1 14" on black friday for the price of a base m2. Personally, the extra storage eases the pain of buying right before the refresh. And even though the m2 has better battery life, which is super important to me, the m1 still runs miles around my previous windows machine in that regard

[@listentojt]

I did the same in January of this year, I think 2k for the M1 1TB brand new is still a good deal.

[@julienliminal7528]

Windows laptops catched up quite a bit since 2020

[@davidschaub7965]

Great coverage of the options people have. I have a base SKU M1 MBP 14", and I find it a stunning machine. Personally I've had pretty good luck with refurbished; so if I was buying today, I would probably go for that M1 MBP 14". It's a great deal for what you get (something that can't always be said for Apple's prices)

[@matthartstonge]

Got myself the 14” M2 Pro, 32GBs RAM and 1TB of Storage for virtualisation and development work 🎉 It’s a wonderful device ❤ Though I probably would’ve gone with the Air if it supported dual display out as I dock my laptop to use dual 24” screens at home

[@MonkRX]

Interesting format. I prefer the story telling and cinematography and b roll of the longer formats. But this is a good format as well, still feels way higher production quality than LTT. Great video, guys.

[@MineTwine45]

Still rather fond of my 13" M1 MacBook Pro, picked it up a few years ago and it's taken what I can throw at it and given me some spare change back. Sure it's got the quirky touch bar but in my use with it I've just gotten used to it.

[@awgonin3622]

I've had a base 16" M1pro since maybe a couple months after launch. when my sister was starting her music course and needed a laptop, we where initially looked at the macbook air, I quickly found that configured with what i would consider reasonable Ram and storage, it became slightly more expensive(aud) than the m1 pro from the refurbished store. It was a no brainer. cooling, faster base storage, 16gigs of ram, better and bigger screen and speakers for less money.

[@syedalihashmi1788]

Just here to see if this was hacked too

[@stevengrey1948]

Well timed video. I am thinking of using the savings in the refurbished store to get the 16inch M1. The attraction is the extra vertical screen real-estate. Also, I am used to lugging around a Dell Precision laptop which has nearly the same footprint as the 16inc, so I am blissfully ignorant to the benefits of the lighter 14inch.

[@JoshuaHults]

Apparently if you run the m2 chip in power saving mode, its performance is identical to the m1 pro 10 core, but in power saving mode lasts longer on battery and has less heat. Then when you need that 10-20% more cpu performance just turn power save mode off. I personally went with m2 for power consumption advantages, going with the 10 core model. 6 efficiency cores 4 performance cores. My thought was this will increase battery the most, plus reduce heat which should prolong the lifespan of the computer. In music daw’s there are ways to reduce cpu usage, such as freeze tracks, bouncing to audio, and buffer size. So i went for the slightly slower multi core from m1 option with 20% efficiency gain route!

[@markslima1557]

Great video, and reallly enjoy this mac-oriented series! For me, after years and years of lugging around laptops of different, large sizes and pounds of weights, I finally settled on the macBook Air M2, and I couldn't be happier. It is plenty fast and powerful for my needs, yes I spent a lot for 16GB and 1TB space, but at last I have the most beautiful ultraportable with the all the power and battery life I need. The only way to go for me.

[@liketheduck]

The switch in audio quality is jarring, fyi. Great channel! Keep the videos coming!

[@NeverGiveUpYo]

Really nice video! I can confirm everything you're saying in this video. I've never been an apple fanboy or hater, but after a month of deep analysis and research, it was clear what I need. I ordered the 14' M1 Pro and I don't regret it. I have it for about three months now and never had any issues. It simply works and it really is a pleasure to work on it. The screen, speed, design, touchpad, speakers, battery, wifi, ports.. everything is just blasting! With the M chipset apple did something great and I'm definitely not regreting the purchase of this device.

[@rosmanpositivo]

I'm using the M2 Air + iMac 5K combo at the moment (sold the M1 Pro 16" for this) but the M2 Pro 14" is indeed tempting.

[@DaveAdams222]

I wound up selling my 2019 Intel iMac and upgrading to an M2 16" MacBook Pro. I truly understand when you mention how the disparity between desktop and laptop is now gone. That thing is much faster than I'll ever need anytime soon.

[@airman_85uk]

As a software developper with multiple VMs and docker applications, the M2 pro and its extra cores would be nice

[@CompoundsAdventures]

I am looking on upgrading to the 4tb, 64gb ram, 16inch M2 Max MacBook Pro. I am currently in college and I am pursuing a degree in video production and I do a lot of video production on the side as well. I am upgrading from and i7 Alienware m15 laptop with 1660ti from 2019. I have looked at all of my options and I think this is the upgrade I need, especially since my schools curriculum uses mac based software.

[@bolttracks]

I would've gotten the 14" but as someone working out of their home studio and doing sound design, post production, and mixing, I wanted a Mac that just doesn't run its fans, and that's basically what the 16" M1 Max model is giving me. The only time they turn on is when I run a spectral de-noising pass on a 30 minute high-res field recording in Izotope RX which literally maxes out every single core. Even then, the fastest fan speed I've seen was 1700 RPM which is still inaudible with this MBP.

[@forrest225]

I went with the 16” M2. I watch a lot of movies, the larger screen is incredible! It’s not quite OLED, but you do get nice ultra black bars and the screen gets super bright. With just the m2 pro it’s plenty quick and the battery life is fantastic.

[@vaidik03]

Why not invest in a good TV for watching movies?

[@dennvenger]

​@@vaidik03Maybe because he won't be bringing a TV to work or school bro.

[@vaidik03]

@@dennvenger Work or School is also not the place to watch movies “bro”.

[@forrest225]

@@vaidik03 I'm not at home when I'm watching.

[@christian4271]

How are the fan noises on the 16”, thinking i’m gonna pick one up but does it ever get you know, obnoxiously loud?

[@dexter2433]

always enjoy the vids and appreciate the information big time

[@StaceyAyodele]

When I was in the market for a new system, I went with the M1 MacBook Air because I figured all the kinks were worked out by the time they released the M2 MacBook Air. I was right. The M1 MacBook Air for me has been a beast of a system for my use (web browsing, anime watching, KZbin, retro gaming [AetherSX2 and Dolphin]) So yeah, I'm glad I bought the M1 MacBook Air and in 10 years I can see myself constantly going for the Airs in the future. light, powerful, and power efficent. Something I couldn't say about the gaming laptop I replaced this M1 MacBook Air with.

[@Jonny-317]

Preach brother

[@TimmyM56]

I agree, I needed a good laptop for going back to school, and looking at it, the M1 Air is more than enough for most people. I think it hurts the M2 Air when it came out, because while the M2 Air has a better screen, keyboard, and so on, the M1 Air continues to do everything very well, and for under $1000. The price for it can be even lower if you're savvy with it, like sales on B&H or even Best Buy Refurbished, for as low as $670. It's light, powerful enough, and just works and for a price like that it is a no brainer.

[@StaceyAyodele]

@@TimmyM56 Yep, it's a glorious computer. Only way I get a newer MacBook Air is when this one kicks the bucket. And I've never had a Mac kick the bucket, they're like tanks. Light, power efficient tanks. So glad the Apple Silicon MacBooks exist.

[@anshagarwal]

Should I wait for the 2023 MacBook Air or get the 2021 MBP 14' base

[@alltheotherhandlesaretaken]

The base model 14" is on sale right now for $1599 at best buy, brand new. This is the best, all rounder macbook to buy. It goes on sale for this price very often in the past, though I doubt this will be the case for much longer since they have stopped production of the M1 pro macbooks now.

[@bigsean6045]

I’ve got the M2 Macbook air 16gb/1Tb - got it for 1500 and I’m very happy with it. For music production it’s a perfect laptop, and I do realise m1 pro is more powerful laptop, but the convenience of this air and how small it is is just perfect for me

[@ORG4Runna]

I just bought the M1 Pro refurbish last week. Loving it so far!

[@carsonj100]

The M1 Pro is such a great laptop. Been using it for a year now and I think buying it refurbished is better than a new m2 pro

[@tinaavantis6900]

Thanks! Considering this as my very first MacBook

[@Evie0133]

I'm a very happy base 14" 2021 MBP user since it came out, it's the best Mac I've ever owned, and I'm glad to see the line getting a lot of love :D

[@arzfan08]

It's worth looking at 3rd party retailers also. Many retailers are still selling their M1 Pro 14" stock and at a decent discount also, to get rid of inventory. Then you have the benefit of buying it new.

[@DanJQue7]

Best Buy had the 14 in M1 Pro on sale in September of last year for $1,599.

[@ShadyVectors]

Went for the refurbished mid spec M1 Pro 15”. Couldn’t be happier. $1000 less (for me) and exceed expectations in everything I need it to do. Love that it runs cooler, hope to keep this thing for a while.

[@JoesZone]

Are there any plans to look at retro apple tech, like the adjustable keyboard and other quirky devices?

[@Pennerman]

Well I was due for an Upgrade and I was ready to get the refurbished base 14" MBP once my exchange semester in Japan started. Yes it would have a Japanese keyboard (which would be quite cool in my opinion) but I would save 300€ (1400€ compared to 1700€). But then I found this local listing for an M1 MBA with upgraded RAM for 600€ and I just had to get it! I'm currently typing this comment on it using it with a dongle connected to a monitor and mechanical keyboard and this is as good as it gets! Yes, ProMotion would be nice and the new design with MagSafe and a dedicated HDMI port is sweet, but thinking that I was ready to pay 800€(?!) more to still have just one computer sounds crazy to me right now. Though I have to say that the deal I got is insane, I still think that people don't have to go for the 14", even though it is tempting and I was about to do it as well. For me as a student the Air seems like the perfect solution!

[@KleiberM]

I literally pulled the trigger on that exact refurbished Pro model yesterday night 🤣 it was between that or the M2 Air with 512 sad and 16gb ram. I prefer the extra ports, better cooling, and bigger and brighter display.

[@coleharring]

Same conclusion here when the 14” launched and I was still working for Apple. For me the deal breaker was the screen, which I was surprised you didn’t touch on. That alone made it worth the jump from the air. Then you factor the SSD and RAM jump baked into the price and it seems like a no brainer. No, they aren’t the $599 Mac Mini or the $999 MacBook Air which make for good headlines but frankly you get a much more capable computer. Apples limited product stack definitely plays into this for sure. When was the last time you saw a video titled “Which HP/Lenovo/Dell laptop is the sweet spot in their lineup.”

[@oliversdouglas]

Depends how painful those extra quids would be for me! If I could comfortably afford it, sure I’d get the better one, but back in reality I’d get the 14” M1; my work laptop is the 16” M1 Pro and it’s fantastic, I don’t feel like I’d need anything more recent

[@MickDavies]

Use my MBP14 base model everyday for coding, I've built probably 4-500k worth of client work on it since owning it. Work horse with docker and terminal. Runs logic pro great too. It's the sweet spot in the lineup.

[@julienliminal7528]

What do you usually code?

[@MickDavies]

@@julienliminal7528 well this would be higher now since this comment but it's AI, web development and database development plus o was testing the iOS app in the iOS simulator too. Laptop is still going well and I've since purchased a M2 Max Mac studio with 64gb to help with the AI stuff

[@acubley]

Not a Apple guy, but loved the iPod with the wheel, and hated iTunes for Windows. Realllly looking at the M2 minis as a home server, and would love to see a video on using it with Plex or Jellyfin.

[@ajfromca]

I made this decision last summer. I was replacing my 2018 MBP13. I considered the M2 MBA, and the M1 Pro MBP14. I went with the MBP14 and have no regrets after ~6 months. There are a lot of concessions with the M2 MBA, and I needed 512GB storage and 16GB RAM. So I got a slightly larger laptop, a much more powerful SOC out of the MBP14, and got it for about $1700 on sale.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

I really want one but I need it to have more RAM. I've currently got a loud and hot Dell Precision laptop for work... but it's got 80GB of RAM (16 soldered + 64GB RAM upgrade) and I'm use to running three displays with a bunch of VMs and Docker containers. I can make the switch from x86 to ARM much easier than I can make the switch from >=64GB to

[@hootcompute]

Short videos are enjoyable, but your long form content is also very compelling.

[@Iandmacb]

Newer HDMI + wifi are a wash for most users, I'd personally still be looking at the air for that sweet sweet silence.

[@StrifePulse]

The Pros are practically silent as well...

[@Mehffort]

Refurbished M1 Pro is by far the better deal

[@POVwithRC]

I don't know how you would arrive at 'most users'. Tell me more.

[@Banom7a]

the M1 Pro is also damn silent 99% of the time

[@Raprada]

Hey that's why they made both, ultimately value is subjective to each person 🙂

[@MoChuang343]

If you live in the US, the base M1 Pro MBP14 goes on sale new for $1600-1700 at Best Buy and Amazon often. Or at least while remain stock lasts.

[@doctorscoot]

well, I have used an m1 pro 14" MBP since they were released (work owns it) when I had the choice of 14" or 16" I took the 14 because I knew it was more portable, and I have never regretted it. I would buy the m2 if I was in the market I guess.

[@danielhrdy2592]

Finishing my bachelor thesis on MBP 13" from 2015 was not ideal at the later stages with 150+ tabs of research and procrastination open. But after finishing that, I treated myself to a 14" M1 Pro last September for my Master's. Could not wish for a better computer! I needed a new device for the semester anyways and there was a deal with the AirPods Pro 2, the sale wasn't that huge but there was no point in waiting for M2 Pro. Can't recommend this laptop enough.

[@piplup10203854]

I'm glad there are more uploads :) I like this channel a lot.

[@ashtonbrown4318]

As someone who works with audio, the sequential disk speeds are incredibly important when it comes to moving sound packs or exports. So I'd have to go with the M1; although my Asus Vivobook is perfectly capable today. Plus I tend to multi-task, meaning that 8gb of ram is not enough for me. I feel terrible slowdowns on a few years old iMac with a dual-core i5 and 8gbs of ram. It can take me almost ten minutes for everything to be come responsive.

[@mbvglider]

This model he's talking about has 16 GB of RAM, and even if it's a bit slower than before, 3460 MB/s is still more than fast enough, about as fast as any PCI-E Gen 3 drive, which still comes standard on many new laptops, by the way. That means that the entire 512 GB hard drive will take like 2.5 minutes to read or write in its entirety. It was a big issue on the base M2, but as most people have pointed out, on the M2 Pro, it's really not an issue.

[@alfredoaraujo9294]

The m1 pro 14 inch can be found also on best but open box sometimes for lime 1399 ish. I puchased mine for 1387 open box excellent from best buy which felt like a steal.

[@rye2]

still leaning towards the m1 air. no notch, don't need an hdmi port since most monitors i connect to have usb-c support, and you can use a dock anyway, and you can also get one of those magnet usb-c that converts a usb-c port to magsafe

[@myinterests3286]

I just started university and was looking at getting the air with 16gb over the m1 pro in January. While trying to get the best price, the m2 pro was released. I chose the m2 Pro base as it was coming to £50 difference from a 16gb m2 air. With student discounts. £50 more for just a better display was a no brainer

[@ben.harnwell]

Great question and I’m struggling as I want to get a MacBook Pro but still not wanting to push the button on either at this stage. Base model for each is fine for my use case but not the air it’s just not worth it.

[@AverageAspie]

Had to get a 16" MacBook m1 ultra(32 core. 32 GB. 1tb) for school before these came out. I have no TVs or monitors with 2.1, and routers at home or school don't support wifi 6E. Do wish I got 64gb but seeing how my colleagues run davinci flawlessly on the base models, I feel it's a sweet spot between fantadtic video editing while dabbling in little character 3D modeling and quick gaming(ffxiv). Has the same number of cores as my 7820x desktop with 2 more E cores, it's mind-boggling. The m1 is still a great option at refurbished or aftermarket if you can get applecare+. If I ever need a new MacBook, ill buy on refurbished store for the m4-5 imo

[@anthonybrigante9087]

Went refurbished m1 pro myself and I do not regret it at all. First mac and very happy

[@ScottLahteine]

The M1 Pro is still very viable and worth the price, especially with the refurb discount, and considering that a typical Mac purchase is a long-term buy -5 years or more- it's a machine you can be happy with until it comes time to trade up to the next big speed bump over the horizon.

[@harryisanoob9289]

I actually pick the exact M1 MacBook Pro in the refurbish store for the exact same reason shown in the video. With the extra 500 CAD saved, you can get a 2 TB SSD, some more accessories and headphone. To be honest, I really don't see why we should pay that much more for the 2 extra core. I think the form factor on the MacBook Pro 14 is the most crucial decision factor to me, mostly the speaker and the high refresh rate monitor. How about refurbished MacBook Air, will you consider them to be budget-friendly capable machine?

[@oddjobkia]

Well in my line is work it's about extra Screen numbers ( I work in theatre) for those who don't know The industry uses a software called Qlab. It only works on Mac, and yes there are non Mac versions, but they don't interface with the Lighting desks and sound desks so we are stuck with Qlab, it's not a bad software it's very good at what it does. But when your using it for multiple projection capability while the software can cope with multiple outputs it's down to the actual Mac outputs that leaves us all seething. A case in point at this moment we are running a show with three separate projectors. Now technically it can be run of the M1 macMini we have or the studio. But it can't. Se we are now running the old Trash Bin Mac Pro as the master and have the M1 Pro mini up in the lighting rig networked through a 1gb switch running one projector. And the Trash can firing the other two. Oh the life of a tech

[@ChosenLate]

I got M1 Max equipped MacBook Pro 16 on sale and couldn't be any happier with my choice!

[@lyndontadeo4073]

Mac Address lives!

[@mattaldridge]

Some feedback about the video... the audio of your mic sounds like it's phase cancelling... do you have multiple audio sources which are summing together? or perhaps you are recording stereo and summing to mono?

[@AyaanMudraRakshasa]

I was about to get the M2 Pro, but this video helped me decide between the two and I don’t regret it at all. The M1 Pro seems to be exactly as capable and I saved a ton of money on it as well. Instead of the $2400 retail price of the M2 Pro, converted from local currency, I got the M1 Pro for just about $1180 new, not refurbished. Couldn’t have gotten a more value for money laptop.

[@ast_rsk]

I bought an M2 Max a week after it launched. This is only my 3rd new MacBook purchase ever because the rest have lasted so long between purchases. I spec'd up this model and fully expect it to last as long or longer than my previous 2007 MacBook and 2012 MacBook Pro w/ retina. Given the average life, the price was easily justifiable and especially because of the deep ecosystem integration. It was worth the cost for what I do with it and has blown me away in every aspect of the hardware. The M1 Pro is also just as stunning, but being a 1st gen cpu, I was worried about the longevity as I adopted my 2007 MacBook just 2 years after the switch to Intel so I wanted to give them a generation to simmer on the switch to Arm.

[@stevenpaen3481]

holy moly the uploads!!! I LOVE IT, keep them coming!!

[@jamesminturn9866]

I’ve bought a 10.5” iPad Pro, a M1 16GB MBA, and most recently a M1 16GB Mac Mini all from the refurb site. All have been great purchases. I would recommend refurb anytime.

[@kenzie2191]

The mention of performance overall being the same across models made me think for a moment. I was considering getting a Studio and a MBP, but that’s not really necessary if I just max out a 14” and call it a day anymore, is it?

[@hisfatness522]

Editing error at 1:45? Both MacBook Pros are listed as having the M1 Pro.

[@mikecrane2782]

I had an ageing 27" iMac, and was looking for an Apple Silicon MacBook to replace my old Intel.MacBook. I knew the M2 was coming out in a few weeks, but the word on the rumour mills was it'd be incremental performance and cost 20% more, so I decided to get a year old M1 Max which had AppleCare+, more RAM & storage, which It hit my sweet spot for less than a M1 Pro refurb.

[@austinwatson5328]

just made the decision on an m1pro from apple refurbished section. so far it’s been great. definitely glad a saved the money

[@animatrix3k]

What I would like to see is a DIY project video from Mac Address, something like frankensteining a new M2 into an old G3 Desktop, or a Quadra.

[@Trillykins]

2:37 - this statement about the 7 and 8 battery life confuses me. I thought people kept saying that the M1 and M2 got superb battery life, as in the 18+ hour range. 6-8 hours is what I got out of my previous Lenovo workstation laptop.

[@agusorellana5551]

I ended up getting a new old-stock 16 inch pro with the M1 pro, I'm still impressed even though I've had it for three weeks, however, I'm still waiting for Graphisoft to make Archicad apple silicon native...

[@katanaboy4]

I realize voice over and the headshot filmed audio come from different places, but the transition between this is pretty jarring and noticeable. I thought my speakers had broken out for a bit there!

[@RaxIxor]

When I was considering a new laptop a year ago, Apple was one of my considerations; and I definitely would've gone with either 14" or 16" Pro if I had the budget for it and they were available at the time. But instead I went with an 8c16t AMD APU powered Lenovo; I do a lot of programming and play games that get throttled by CPU more than GPU.

[@muneerfaizal4073]

I still think the macbook air m1 2020 is the one to get if you use it for web browsing, content consumption and emulation

[@ezikhoyo]

I got the 14" M1 Pro exactly on the day of the 14" M2s release, as a refurbished from Apple. Conditition is brand new, just like the one year warrenty with the ability to buy Apple Care. I paid 1729€ (incl. Taxes), the M2 would have cost 2399€ or 2199€ with education. That 700€ - or 500€ EDU - more for 8k HDMI (I only got two 27" 2k monitors and a 4k TV) which was therefore not appealing, same with the WiFi 6E which no device (including my AP/router) has. I mean yeah, two efficiency cores more... but thats about it. It was my first apple PC/Mac and I'm so glad I made the change from windows. Its the best PC/laptop I ever owned. Can only recommend going this route - and Jonathan seems to think the same :)

[@oscarsanchez298]

Glad i got the m1 pro base when it was still new.

[@gustavkollingnystrm2002]

I snacked my macbook pro 2017 reburbished for 550 usd, and tbh it has been running great for casual use

[@crusadechong5476]

Am super tempted to go for a refurbished model of M1 Macbook Pro but sadly Refurbished Store isn't available in my country and the currency exchange rate isn't doing much of a favor to me either when it comes to Mac Mini (Budget Option 1) or M2 Macbook Air (Budget Option 2) or the entry M2 Macbook Pro.

[@theangryintern]

I just got a 16" with the M2 Pro. I like the bigger screen. I upgraded from the last of the Core i9 models.

[@stratonarrow]

Here in the US Best Buy has the M1 Pro 14" base model brand new for $1,599, which is the same price I bought it for on Black Friday. At $1,599, it's SUCH a good value it's insane.

[@Midicow]

The difference between them for non-power users is so minimal that a refurbished M1 is the better deal at stock prices. Maybe m3 will change that, but, m1 is such a good platform that I could see apple just keeping it and putting it into everything in the future, unless a new rev substantively improves the platform without an overly increased bill of materials or cost.

[@kniffin719]

I would probably get the M2 for future-proofing. A lot of Apple's first gen products seem to expire (lose viability or ability to update to current OS) faster than 2nd and third gen.

[@sonofjob]

You don't even have to get the refurbished one, a brand new m1 MacBook pro is on sale for $1599 at Best Buy and Costco. It's been at that sale price since last August, so I only expect it to get cheaper. I bought one on Nov and it's one of the best purchases I've ever made.

[@shaneholly11]

Hey I got a question for you i'm thinking about moving over to Mac for everything but gaming. What should I go for m1 m2 or imac i'm tired of all the wires that's my one of my biggest issues the other one is getting direct access to your program files. If you can help answer the question I would appreciate it. I do use an Apple phone and watch

[@Star-du2od]

I like this style of video! I have an ipad, love it but want an (inexpensive) extra screen. Which mac should I get?

[@krebsgewehr]

Both are great computers, take the savings where you can maybe you can use the extra to get some upgrades on ram and storage.