Jim Cornette on Kenny Omega Being Voted Into The Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall Of Fame

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@A_real_Ha_So
@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын
List of candidates for this year Kenny Omega Kenny Olivier Twinkletoes McFingerbang Harpo Marx Write ins will not be accepted
@maxand.1462
@maxand.1462 3 жыл бұрын
next year: the young cucks
@EliC09
@EliC09 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the other candidate: Jazz Hands
@user-wg6ik1wi6s
@user-wg6ik1wi6s 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're one of those bitter 50+ers :D
@A_real_Ha_So
@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-wg6ik1wi6sOh. I'm bitter and 50+ alright but not over this 😂 I can think of even 3 more current wrestlers besides Punk, Styles and Orton who deserves this more than this dude lol
@steveg2251
@steveg2251 3 жыл бұрын
Putz McGee?
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
FYI: Sting wasn't inducted until 2016 because Uncle Dave thought he was not at the level of other Hall of Famers when it comes to drawing power HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@saloz9483
@saloz9483 3 жыл бұрын
Just wow. Yet hes willing to put omega in. I'm sure if he could blow omega he would.
@siddhanth3044
@siddhanth3044 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer is a mark. Sting is a legend. Omega is not.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
@@saloz9483 you think he didn't already blow him at this point?
@themagnificentwhiskerbiscuit
@themagnificentwhiskerbiscuit 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the equivalent of QAnon in the wrestling news!😒
@BigDealDante
@BigDealDante 3 жыл бұрын
@@saloz9483 your acting like Sting is a better wrestler than Omega?🤣🤣
@paulroberts2879
@paulroberts2879 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing missing in this artwork is Uncle Dave with a shirt that has an "I voted" sticker.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 жыл бұрын
Sort it out, Travis!!
@jcaceres516
@jcaceres516 3 жыл бұрын
But he cant
@شمسالعبود-ه6ط
@شمسالعبود-ه6ط 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Amos_Huclkeberry
@Amos_Huclkeberry 3 жыл бұрын
People that vote democrat have 7 of those stickers.
@jdgustofwinddance.7748
@jdgustofwinddance.7748 3 жыл бұрын
The “Likes” should be off the roof on your comment, sir. 🤘🏼😡🤘🏼
@Saddler1944
@Saddler1944 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the future. WON headline: Kenny Omega only wrestler in history to make it into hall of fame and win a Major wrestling title in same year this is the greatest accomplishment in this history of wrestling. Dave wont be able to help himself.
@borednow5838
@borednow5838 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good discussion. I like the balance Brian brought to the discussion. I agree with him that no active wrestler should be inducted unless maybe or hers career is winding down or their on a part-time deal and their legacy has already been cemented.
@constablekennedy8227
@constablekennedy8227 3 жыл бұрын
When I first heard this News I thought of this Review from Jim Cornette and Immediately got the 🍿 Ready ........ 🔥
@moseman447
@moseman447 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone, check for Omega's induction to be the last thing Justin Roberts says on Wednesday.
@vincentvangogh2169
@vincentvangogh2169 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god.. please no.. hahahha
@hopdon9115
@hopdon9115 3 жыл бұрын
Balls To The Walls this is going to happen lmfao
@mr.c4p
@mr.c4p 3 жыл бұрын
I bet at least 20xs a day Meltzer rubs one out to to a piece of paper that says "KENNY OMEGA". The man is simply in love. Omega must be a pro at hitting that g-spot
@cherishpotluri957
@cherishpotluri957 3 жыл бұрын
Next year i would be disappointed if they wouldn’t induct The Young Bucks, Brandi, QT Marshall and Justin Roberts
@robint.t3538
@robint.t3538 3 жыл бұрын
He will Dave Meltzer is stupid
@ii9714
@ii9714 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget sonny kiss or nutella true icons of the industry
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ii9714 How about the legless guy?
@caseyherrin4559
@caseyherrin4559 3 жыл бұрын
Zach Gowan
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 жыл бұрын
@@caseyherrin4559 He was surprisingly decent in his role. The one in the AEW Battle Royal.
@jertoll4218
@jertoll4218 3 жыл бұрын
Anything Olivier related is an immediate click..
@MikeJr9284
@MikeJr9284 3 жыл бұрын
As if Dave Meltzer’s man crush on Kenny Omega wasn’t already obvious.
@FilmThePoliceFTP
@FilmThePoliceFTP 3 жыл бұрын
Ghey
@john82425
@john82425 3 жыл бұрын
@Edwin Juengel yeah idiots don’t know what they’re talking about
@eljuniorcen2675
@eljuniorcen2675 3 жыл бұрын
@Edwin Juengel haha yep.
@karikarisworld2693
@karikarisworld2693 3 жыл бұрын
So are you omega is actually a good wrestler. Anyone who is please show me what matches he's shown this because aew ain't seen it
@killdozerjr
@killdozerjr 3 жыл бұрын
@@karikarisworld2693 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIuodaaJpcp_gck
@kingston4313
@kingston4313 3 жыл бұрын
I think AEW really exposed Kenny. He was special in Japan because he is a gaijin and booked really well. He was white hot and could’ve gone into royal rumble and skip NXT. In AEW, he is just another high flyer and really bland.
@peterdame-meehan4718
@peterdame-meehan4718 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so wrong.
@FightM1lk
@FightM1lk 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterdame-meehan4718 he isn’t though, Omega has looked so bad in AEW, he can’t even cut a decent promo to save him, and he doesn’t even look like a star. Switching back to the cleaner isn’t going to save him since US fans who’re new to him will see him and just think his gimmick is a janitor since he doesn’t even look intimidating.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterdame-meehan4718 He's correct. John Laurinitus was "hot in Japan" cos "tall blonde Westerner". I thought Omega was a badass... til I found out he was Canadian
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 жыл бұрын
@@FightM1lk Having girls hold brooms as you enter isn't it, homie; I'm a cleaner
@DragONheart27X
@DragONheart27X 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterdame-meehan4718 He's correct, Kenny Omega specialized in big matches, and in AEW weekly TV he just bores, he feels like a more theatrical Seth Rollins, by that his moveset and match flow is so predictable. Is he a great wrestler? yes. But he's damn overrated. I like Pac and Hangman more so than him.
@mrhaag
@mrhaag 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Dave got his boyfriend in.
@ZoeW101
@ZoeW101 3 жыл бұрын
They really should just date at this point.
@wrestlingisdeadmoveonwithy8939
@wrestlingisdeadmoveonwithy8939 3 жыл бұрын
Those two are such f words.
@kovulion7777
@kovulion7777 3 жыл бұрын
"other famous wrestlers can't get there because they don't have much drawing power" when AEW can't even get 1Million viewers, that's such a drawing power within those trillion star matches they keep gettting
@Sunflowerchloe
@Sunflowerchloe 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you’re a kenny omega fan surely it’s far too early to be in any hall of fame?? At this point they must just be trying to give Jim a heart attack to stop him complaining about them😅
@7WalrusGaming7
@7WalrusGaming7 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Kenny Omega fan and I do think it's too early lmao
@totallykoolyeah
@totallykoolyeah 3 жыл бұрын
They know trolling and clickbait
@theothesir
@theothesir 3 жыл бұрын
Jim ain't worried about TTMcFB. This is just easy money to speak on.
@tacotom3492
@tacotom3492 3 жыл бұрын
@no name lol no, Jim doesnt have the views or subscribers to make much in terms.of on YT. Jim's also been out of wrestling for awhile now, doubt many under 30 knows who he is .
@Thebestoutthere
@Thebestoutthere 3 жыл бұрын
@no name nag olivier ain’t good and wrestling schools kicked him out. Dumb marks would defend this jabroni though.
@mjstory1976
@mjstory1976 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine some people going through life thinking Kenny Omega is the greatest wrestler of all time 😂
@Nediablo
@Nediablo 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny as, at one point, I was sure he was one of the best currently. His trilogy with Okada was awesome. Now though let's have a look..... Okada is still having amazing matches. Omega has had some average to not so good matches recently (Janela springs to mind). It seems to be a case of you're only as good as your dance partner. Do I think Kenny is terrible? No not at all. Do I think he's anywhere near as good as people thought he was just a few years ago? God no. Brian nails it why he shouldn't be in a hall of fame right now. He's in the middle of his career.
@coolyoungsparks7423
@coolyoungsparks7423 3 жыл бұрын
Omegas been playing Tag team for a year and just now really getting back to singles action.. his match with the bucks and Adam page should be considered match of the year.. his iron man match with PAC was fantastic (just before the pandemic). Recently his Match with Adam Page at full gear was outstanding.. What was the last match that Okada had that was better than what he did with Omega, I’m not being a smart ass either I really don’t know
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 3 жыл бұрын
I like Omega, but even I wouldn't say that Omega is the greatest of all time. Even from a pure technical wrestling standpoint, I would put Bret, Shawn, Rey, AJ, Bryan, Angle, Benoit, Okada, and Tanahashi above him.
@EliC09
@EliC09 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking he's a good wrestler...
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking what Olivier does is "wrestling"
@tacticalgengar420
@tacticalgengar420 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a joke. Kenny has barely done shit since he left njpw
@Nediablo
@Nediablo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@mja2317
@mja2317 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't even do anything as IWGP Heavyweight champion. By far the most insignificant top guy that they've had this decade.
@ZeroShaneBob
@ZeroShaneBob 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, he helped start and run a new wrestling promotion, but I guess that's nothing lol
@Nediablo
@Nediablo 3 жыл бұрын
@@mja2317 defences against Cody, Ishii, and Ibushi and Cody in a three way. Then lost to Tana. I agree. That's pretty bad as 2 of his 3 defences involved the same guy. And dammit I want to see Ishii with the belt before he quits!
@tacticalgengar420
@tacticalgengar420 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroShaneBob you mean Cody and the young bucks
@therealmaskedheel
@therealmaskedheel 3 жыл бұрын
That fact that Sgt Slaughter isn't in and Kenny Omega is just shows that this is a joke.
@SwaggaLeo
@SwaggaLeo 3 жыл бұрын
#preach
@crazehousekeeper247
@crazehousekeeper247 3 жыл бұрын
From what a hear the Steiner brothers are not in is a joke
@jbtreshawn
@jbtreshawn 3 жыл бұрын
omega has great matches. Slaughter had 1 good stint and was carried by his opposition dont do that bs
@SwaggaLeo
@SwaggaLeo 3 жыл бұрын
@@jbtreshawn you obviously don’t know much about wrestling or Sgt Slaughter’s history. I bet you think his world title run was his only run...forget Mid Atlantic, HIS FIRST WWF RUN, AWA???
@jbtreshawn
@jbtreshawn 3 жыл бұрын
@@SwaggaLeo not a fan of that era. Some matches were decent but im big on 94 to present
@patrickcampbell9445
@patrickcampbell9445 3 жыл бұрын
I said on Twitter how obvious it was that a group led by Dave Meltzer would vote for Omega and all his fanboys got mad at me. Lol.
@reubenelite
@reubenelite 2 жыл бұрын
Because they have brains which u don't Simple
@desukaful
@desukaful 3 жыл бұрын
Up until this year, I just thought Omega was a watch brand. Never heard of him until now.
@jdgustofwinddance.7748
@jdgustofwinddance.7748 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer is the DarkSydePhil of “wrestling journalism.”
@josiahcmiller
@josiahcmiller 9 ай бұрын
It’s only a matter of time before he gets caught on camera during a Old Cucks match.
@tsaicho
@tsaicho 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible the wrestling “journalists” are heavily “influenced” by Tony Khan, like how Harvey Weinstein influenced the Oscar voters?
@tomvu1470
@tomvu1470 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like the RollingStone Rock n Roll Hall of Fame....or the WWE HOF. Meaningless.
@DaewoOoOoOoOo
@DaewoOoOoOoOo 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomvu1470 No, it’s not.
@totallykoolyeah
@totallykoolyeah 3 жыл бұрын
Aew will start their hall of fame soon i mean its been a year already.
@DaewoOoOoOoOo
@DaewoOoOoOoOo 3 жыл бұрын
@Nathaniel Baxter Because of one guy? Please.
@DaewoOoOoOoOo
@DaewoOoOoOoOo 3 жыл бұрын
@Nathaniel Baxter Come on dude.
@Benjamin-lq1sf
@Benjamin-lq1sf 3 жыл бұрын
If people put aside that they don’t like his style, objectively he should get in. Since he’s still arguably in his prime, he shouldn’t get in NOW because he’s still in the middle of his career
@hia5235
@hia5235 3 жыл бұрын
"I voted because a bunch of other people voted" -Jim Cornette.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
Wait til 2021 when Balding Buck and Road Warrior Buck gets in 😂😂😂😂😂
@missellaneous5142
@missellaneous5142 3 жыл бұрын
I like Kenny Omega, but I also believe that his "Best Bouts" over in NJPW had more to do with Okada being amazing
@BigDealDante
@BigDealDante 3 жыл бұрын
Explain Omega vs Jericho, Omega and Paige vs Bucks then, they all couldn't have carried him through that
@Ivan_against_Cuisine
@Ivan_against_Cuisine 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe that he is already in, while Okada is not. Okada will be there soon, but still its kinda backwards.
@missellaneous5142
@missellaneous5142 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigDealDante I'm not saying the guy needs to be carried through matches, Kenny has a lot of positives, but I think that Okada is the guy who can elevate anyone to a star performance. I think Okada deserves more of the credit for the Best Bouts.
@JohnDoe-wr9ei
@JohnDoe-wr9ei 3 жыл бұрын
@@missellaneous5142 Omega got the praise because he was the top white guy. If Okada was a white guy, he would absolutely be praised more
@iamthedave3
@iamthedave3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ivan_against_Cuisine Okada isn't eligible yet. He's on ballot for the first time next year (too young right now).
@mattypaul87
@mattypaul87 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Kenny Olivier's post on Instagram and his fans were commenting "well-deserved" or "best wrestler of all time!" I assume these people have never watched any other wrestlers ever.
@A_real_Ha_So
@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын
@MemphoWrasslin1 Could you imagine these goofs reaction to watching a Lawler/Dundee program?
@bighuc
@bighuc 3 жыл бұрын
Corny has me forgetting Olivia' s wrestling name is Omega lol.I look at The Young Bucks the same way now.It's Balding Buck and Buck Hogan(RIP Road Warrior Buck)whenever they wrestle.
@Hoffanheim
@Hoffanheim 3 жыл бұрын
Same with me haha
@ryanwebb5082
@ryanwebb5082 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest wrestling artist of all time
@sirtoby4939
@sirtoby4939 3 жыл бұрын
"Buck Hogan"? You mean PieFace?
@ICHIBAN-cz8ih
@ICHIBAN-cz8ih 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't one of them Dick the Buck for a week?
@bighuc
@bighuc 3 жыл бұрын
@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih Lol...Yeah! That was one of the names Jim called him when him and Brian were going through replacement names.Dick The Buck may be better then Buck Hogan
@A_real_Ha_So
@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын
Confirmed: Unkie Dave will be added to the upcoming AEW videe game roster.
@theothesir
@theothesir 3 жыл бұрын
He's gonna have appear with a cut up AEW shirt and some yoga pants with the moveset of Sonny Kiss.
@johnnyzamora8190
@johnnyzamora8190 3 жыл бұрын
Quick, somebody get this shit made in WWE 2K20. 😆
@SuperNerdEntertainmentShow
@SuperNerdEntertainmentShow 3 жыл бұрын
The most interesting thing to come out of this for me, is the definition of "Hall of Fame" It seems there are 2 schools of thought, and a dictionary definition. Dictionary definition is a place where people who became famous in a specific field are displayed by a prominent body of that field to remember them and their fame. Then you have a grading system of: 1. They have to have done something of some merit over a long period of time and dedicated themselves to specific field. There must be some bench mark of excellence recognised by "experts" in the field. (in the case of wrestling the feats are artistic and thus subjective) 2. If they are remembered long enough after they are retired (deceased) they must have had some level of fame, and/or memorability to be included or a remembered fondly enough to think they deserve recognition. So Brian said that "that means you should put everyone in the half of fame" and he is right. There seems to be disparity in what some people think a "Hall of Fame" is for. For many it seems to be a place so hold up legends, to remember only the very, very best of a time or era and forget everyone else. For others it is just a place to remember old participants of a field that are remembered fondly enough. My own personal view is a sort of Venn diagram of the concepts. I think if you were largely consider as great by those in the "know" and fans alike, then you enter the HoF, but also I think there are especially in wrestling work horse characters that were never champion, never really hit the main stage but did a good job, were very good at what they did and were memorable enough to be put in to a half of records to record their name and achievements. Someone like Jake Roberts was never a real main event guy, but is certainly a legend in the industry for one reason or another. He should absolutely be remembered fondly in years to come by future wrestling historians and fans for the work he did. Other people can probably give 100+ examples of people that had a big enough impact on their entertainment/viewing pleasure to be remembered fondly enough to mark their career in some way. It would be interesting to see what other people think a HoF is and how entrants should be determined, Brian seems to be very much they have to be a giant of the industry and a HoF should only be a select few people. I can understand that idea, but I feel like sometimes people forget the greatest wrestlers, people like Mr Perfect, where not always main event guys and were not 500 times champion but still deserve to be remembered....would you really remember John Cena more fondly than Mr Perfect?....I don't dislike Cena at all and think he was a talent...but he was face of the company, main event, champ more times than hot dinners...but does that make him more HoF worthy? Just on that alone...seeing as Vince decided he was main event and champ that many times, despite some people not agreeing with the decision.
@erichshoup
@erichshoup 3 жыл бұрын
This pic is lacking the presence of 'The Dynamic Dude' Uncle Davey Meltzer
@1thenatural1
@1thenatural1 3 жыл бұрын
This dork's had like a 10-year career on the indies, five years major promotions, and isn't even retired yet and he's going into a HOF!? haha
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@The Natural 1, There's a reason why legends like Harley didn't like Omega, & it's because of the fact that Omega's not very good & Harley knew it.
@blackout8777
@blackout8777 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSportsfan35 when i trained a but at harleys school he used omega as what not to do...seriously
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackout8777 I worked for Harley as 1 of his refs, & Harley was always upfront, honest & to the point, you knew where you stood with him.
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Dave thinks having 'classic' flippy matches in some high school gym with 200 people & being carried by the best NJPW workers equals a HOF level guy now. The voters are running it like the F4W board-if you aren't 100% woke & saying how great the modern product (especially AEW) is then the little Hitler's modding there ban you without any warning or reason. If the ever decreasing age of voters drink the Meltzer kool-aid about somebody he spews out on Twitter, in his sheet & on the radio shows then they vote for them.
@rickytpb2164
@rickytpb2164 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guaranteeing right now The Young Bucks are going in this Hall of Fame in 2021.
@Willtendo2
@Willtendo2 3 жыл бұрын
Before Tully and Arn lmao
@obi-wankenobi917
@obi-wankenobi917 3 жыл бұрын
Got a big enough joint there Rick ?
@A_real_Ha_So
@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын
@@obi-wankenobi917 Normally I'd agree about this but if Omega got in ..
@johnbeer4963
@johnbeer4963 3 жыл бұрын
Jim calling them The Hardly Boys last week cracked me up, i think it should stick. Nick and Matt, the hardly boys
@chadk890
@chadk890 3 жыл бұрын
@@Willtendo2 That's sad. God I hope not
@Hush_Money2
@Hush_Money2 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this. Knew Jim would never disappoint.
@elijahchesterthomas5334
@elijahchesterthomas5334 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Lol. 1st thing I thought when I saw the vid.
@MrReganomics1
@MrReganomics1 3 жыл бұрын
They would catch him with Michael Nakazawa or Kota before they ever caught him with a woman
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 жыл бұрын
There's .3% chance for Omega to appear with a woman that's not japanese lol.
@theraginggamer095
@theraginggamer095 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandalfElVikingo .03% more accurately
@MrReganomics1
@MrReganomics1 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@derickmandigo2356
@derickmandigo2356 3 жыл бұрын
Does Meltzer's arm ever get tired working Kenny the cleaner's "broom handle"?
@iamthedave3
@iamthedave3 3 жыл бұрын
Most of Omega's votes came from Japan (which isn't a surprise). He had a big impact in his years in Japan and is basically why NJPW made any inroads at all into America. From a Japanese perspective that's a massive, massive achievement. Also the people in Japan look at his entire body of work, including DDT (where he mattered), his work with Ibushi etc. He probably shouldn't have gone in early, but he's far from the first person to get in after several years on the ballot (this is his third).
@alphagenetics6758
@alphagenetics6758 3 жыл бұрын
"I can't dance... I can't talk... Only thing about me is the way I walk" Should be his entrance music into the hall of fame
@Cabaret43
@Cabaret43 3 жыл бұрын
Why does anyone give a rats ass that Omega made Meltzers personal hall of fame? Am i missing something here? Pretty obvious from recent history that neither of them are credible at what they are supposed to be experts at.
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 3 жыл бұрын
Of Course Corny Refuses to believe Kenny Omega's election was legitimate. He Just needs to 'accept' that Verified Journos are a Superior Class and voice in whatever they talk about -The Smarks, Probably
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 3 жыл бұрын
Twinkle toes is a legend and one of the greatest
@Sweetestsadist
@Sweetestsadist 3 жыл бұрын
You would think that Cornette would be all for Kenny Omega getting inducted the way he claims considering Jim's political views.
@jedsteelwell2354
@jedsteelwell2354 3 жыл бұрын
His politics don't really have anything to do with not liking shity wrestling
@Sweetestsadist
@Sweetestsadist 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedsteelwell2354 Wow... You said something really profound there... No, really... your comment clearly shows you got the gist of what I was saying... ...Just look at that big boy response... Spelled almost all the words right and everything... Good job.
@reggiefields6551
@reggiefields6551 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sweetestsadist maybe you could explain your position in a clear manner rather than being rude to someone who made a valid point. what does kenny's politics have to do with jim not thinking he is HOF caliber wrestler? please explain your position
@Sweetestsadist
@Sweetestsadist 3 жыл бұрын
@@reggiefields6551 Not until someone responds with a comment that shows they have basic reading comprehension skills. At this point, I'm still waiting. I will say Jed got the point better than you, though.
@phantomdriver2010
@phantomdriver2010 3 жыл бұрын
The reason this is especially dumb is he is still active and in "his prime" you don't know how shit or great he can still become. He did it just because Kenny and The bucks worship Dave
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the first ballot HOFs next year: The Young Bucks hahaha
@Sparkledash1
@Sparkledash1 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many people that deserve it way more then Omega. Just a few examples: The Dubley Boys George Steele rick rude Jake Roberts Kendo Nagasaki The Faboulous Moolah Kane William Regal These are just from the top of my head. Some of them might never have been world champs, but these people really left their mark on the wrestling business.
@Run187
@Run187 3 жыл бұрын
Jake, George, Rick r and regal must already be in surely. Regal has to be one of the most underrated wrestlers evee..
@Sparkledash1
@Sparkledash1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Run187 I looked through the list and when i didn't made any mistakes, all the wrestlers i mentioned are not in it.
@lautheimpaler4686
@lautheimpaler4686 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sparkledash1 Jake Roberts isn't there ? Smh.
@retrokoh
@retrokoh 3 жыл бұрын
There IS a body that votes, and I appreciate Brian's open mind on Omega... as I am a fan of Omega's. But Omega in the Hall of Fame is completely ridiculous. Really, wrestlers shouldn't be eligible until they've retired for x number of years. But... problem is, some great wrestlers never retire. LOL At least, pseudo-retire once. Omega is still in his prime and hasn't done all that much outside of Japan.
@maxand.1462
@maxand.1462 3 жыл бұрын
10:37 RIHOOOOOO in the hall of fame confirmed...
@SwaggaLeo
@SwaggaLeo 3 жыл бұрын
IM not gonna say Big Daddy was the greatest in ring tactician...but he will INFINITELY be more popular than Kenny Omega any where in the world. AND BIG DADDY AINT IN THE HOF. That's reality! MILLIONS WATCHED BIG DADDY WEEKLY FOR DECADES!!!! Only 800,000 watch Kenny Omega on a weekly basis.
@janayroyster9968
@janayroyster9968 3 жыл бұрын
Can we stop saying AEW is in its infancy phase as a excuse for poor decisions. They've been up in running since their 1st show/ppv last year and considering the years of wrestling experience the four sets have shouldn't be a excuse for their flaws
@henrikschmidt3964
@henrikschmidt3964 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot say I've ever heard of 'Wild' Bull Currey, but I was shocked to learn that Big Daddy is not in.
@steveg2251
@steveg2251 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible wrestler but seriously over, Daddy that is.
@doylemurphy152
@doylemurphy152 3 жыл бұрын
If Kenny Omega wants in the HOF, any one of them, he needs to beat one man, John Cena. If he can beat Cena, then I believe he is HOF worthy.
@CrazyStevo
@CrazyStevo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 3 жыл бұрын
The match already happened and he won
@kenthegamer
@kenthegamer 3 жыл бұрын
I’m old enough to remember when people said Meltzers HOF was the most legitimate HOF
@Exiled_Rouge
@Exiled_Rouge 3 жыл бұрын
How and who determines the hall of fame for Wrestling Observer? From what I heard, I don't think it is Meltzer but a bunch different people in many roles. I did not know there was such a thing as a HOF for Wrestling Observer till relatively recently. I have never heard a negative word by anyone in the Pro Wrestling business other than from Cornette and Last about Kenny Omega.
@DAMELKEYON
@DAMELKEYON 3 жыл бұрын
"I won the Election"! - Olivier
@adriancarlos9155
@adriancarlos9155 3 жыл бұрын
Big Daddy Rollerball Mark Rocco Adrian Street & Linda. Kendonakisaki
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it ridiculous that because Dave listens to a bunch of grumpy old UK veterans & bases everything around workrate that the biggest star in the UK from the mid 1970's to the early 1990's-the man who drew millions of viewers every week to WOS, who kept the UK business going for 15 years & had annuals, comic strips, sponsored by a UK sauce etc isn't in, yet some guy who hasn't done a thing in the US, isn't even the top guy in AEW, has spent most of his career drawing flies in high school gyms is in purely because he was carried to some classic matches by the best workers in the business in a half empty Tokyo Dome is in?
@SwaggaLeo
@SwaggaLeo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hi-kq1vi EMPHASIS on the CARRIED TO CLASSIC MATCHES.
@azapro911
@azapro911 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Big Daddy shout-out. 👍
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, and AEW in general, are obliviously doing things just to screw with Cornette. The proof is Dave saying on Twitter that the reason Kenny is in but Sting still isn't, is because Kenny is a bigger draw than Sting. The sheer fucking delusion.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 2 жыл бұрын
Appropriate that this has 69K views
@cobainp9325
@cobainp9325 3 жыл бұрын
We have to get #TwinkleToesMcFingerBang trending on Twitter next Wednesday night!!! Spread the word to who has Twitter!!👍🏻
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
Jim's right. There's no way Omega's higher or on the same level as Verne Gagne, Lou Thesz, Dory Funk Jr or Harley Race.
@antwilder
@antwilder 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny omega was great in njpw but all the other greats from other Countries should get in too if thats the case
@EliC09
@EliC09 3 жыл бұрын
*Voter fraud*
@richardremick1639
@richardremick1639 3 жыл бұрын
Aster Jim calls it perfectly destroying everyone trying to argue with Jim you can’t argue with Jim you can’t be God 😇
@DXCenaWWE4life
@DXCenaWWE4life 3 жыл бұрын
You knew it was coming eventually. The Bucks are next in 2021.
@Ratmann8436
@Ratmann8436 3 жыл бұрын
As if the Wrestling Observer has any credibility to it.
@MetalShadowX
@MetalShadowX 3 жыл бұрын
I think most of its credibility died when he spawned a generation of internet smarks who think they know more about the business than the people in it. That and that Saudi Arabia fiasco where he claimed WWE were held hostage and somehow nobody outside the country, besides Uncle Dave, was willing to catch this report that would have been a huge media clusterfuck if it was even remotely true.
@adventuresinmodelrailroading
@adventuresinmodelrailroading 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone padded the wrong ballot box.
@alexanderwagner4587
@alexanderwagner4587 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently "fame" has a very loose definition within the Wrestling Observer, I guarantee if you asked the casual fan over 35 they'd probably remember Mantaur before they had a clue who Kenny Omega is 😂
@thelastmotel
@thelastmotel 3 жыл бұрын
Fame has always, and will always, work that way. If you are prominent in the moment, you are regarded as having high fame, even if your career is likely to be gone in a minute.
@Jayce_Alexander
@Jayce_Alexander 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelastmotel That's why a hall of fame generally doesn't focus on talents who are presently popular, but people who, in hindsight, are regarded as having the greatest legacy.
@coachmikesfilmroom3111
@coachmikesfilmroom3111 3 жыл бұрын
Sakuraba is in that hall of fame. Omega's is now held in the same esteem of the IQ Wrestler? Pro wrestling is not strong anymore :(
@LimaKiloRomeo
@LimaKiloRomeo 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with Kenny Omega (and no, I don't hate him nearly as much as Corny does) is that he goes out and just does moves.
@robmillergaming
@robmillergaming 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Dave gave last night's match between Jelly Nutella and Marko Stunted Growth on AEW Dark four stars. Would've been five if Sonny Kiss interfered...
@robint.t3538
@robint.t3538 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Alberto Del Rio is a better wrestler and always will be a better wrestler than Kenny Omega.
@BeaterCar
@BeaterCar 3 жыл бұрын
He accomplished more then him definately
@bled83
@bled83 3 жыл бұрын
Not that unpopular.
@robint.t3538
@robint.t3538 3 жыл бұрын
@@bled83 is why its not unpopular the total of championships of Alberto has in WWE are like 6 and in TNA like 3 those are 9 but Omega like 3 maybe
@maraviyoso8473
@maraviyoso8473 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular where????? Alberto Del Rio is a bonafide prick; but he'd kill Omega (kayfabe or shoot) without a sweat
@robint.t3538
@robint.t3538 3 жыл бұрын
@@maraviyoso8473 I agree
@natedogg1979
@natedogg1979 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to see why Kenneth is hyped so much.
@death-by-ego
@death-by-ego 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Dave mentioned that wrestling reporters thing and all I thought was "Oh... those wrestling reporters who report on what Dave says in the newsletter." We are knee deep in the self-fulfillment era
@rickydona919
@rickydona919 3 жыл бұрын
what is the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame and how is it relevant to wrestling?
@kidvillain188
@kidvillain188 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Kenny
@Smeeeeeghead
@Smeeeeeghead 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny is in the Hall of fame after 3 good years in NJPW. Edge and Goldberg aren't in the Hall of Fame at all. I rest my case. EDIT: I don't really care about Dave's opinion, but it is funny that Goldberg, and even Edge, have had WAYYYY more significance, drawing power, and notable matches than Omega has.
@Smeeeeeghead
@Smeeeeeghead 3 жыл бұрын
@Khalil Salam You saying "Stupid casuals" tells me all that I need to know about your opinions. As if Kenny and his NJPW are better than what the "Stupid Casuals" watch, as opposed to it being just your opinion. You think your a "better" fan than people who watched Edge and Goldberg when wrestling was huge in the attitude era, when in reality both groups like different things. Your comment reeks of elitism and "I'm too good for that CASUAL PLEBEIAN WWF! Stone Cold?! Pheh! I'd rather watch guys do flips in bingo halls!"
@Smeeeeeghead
@Smeeeeeghead 3 жыл бұрын
@Khalil Salam American markets are bigger than Japanese markets and Meltzer, AEW, and WWE are all based in America. This was talking about opinions in the first place if you actually read my initial comment saying how Meltzer has his opinion but my opinion is that Goldberg and Edge are way more significant, because they sold more tickets and had a bigger cultural impact.
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 3 жыл бұрын
"He is making a face, like he is pushing out a tu rd" - Jim Cornette
@AliSubhi-xs4rn
@AliSubhi-xs4rn 3 жыл бұрын
It's so entertaining to watch him making those face when he tries to sell.
@7WalrusGaming7
@7WalrusGaming7 3 жыл бұрын
If y'all looked at his achievements OBJECTIVELY and put your feelings towards him aside, then why doesn't he deserve this? - Involved in multiple matches that a significant number of people (not just Meltzer) consider to be amongst the greatest of all time. - No Kenny Omega means no AEW, once again put your feelings about him or the product to the side. AEW has changed the landscape of pro-wrestling, consistently defeated NXT in the weekly ratings, and has had massive success. - Kenny Omega could be argued as the main reason that NJPW became the 2nd biggest promotion in the world before AEW came along. He gave them big exposure for Western wrestling fans. - Bullet Club (most important faction in wrestling of the last decade) was at its peak in terms of popularity and business under the leadership of Kenny Omega and following his ascension to heavyweight in NJPW. - If you use championship success as a metric (not my most important but I'm sure some people will) then he is so far the only Gaijin in history to win the G1 Climax, and has won all the top titles in NJPW, top champion in Mexico (AAA Mega Champion), and will likely become the next AEW World Champion. For those who say him wrestling blow up dolls or whatever ruins any legitimacy he has, then you need to realise most of the greatest of all time have done something that is considered "silly". If you personally don't like that style of wrestling, then that's fine. But just because you or Jim Cornette aren't fans of it, then it doesn't make it "not wrestling" or whatever argument you say. I would say his accomplishments so far would warrant a HOF worthy career, but I agree with Brian Last in that I wouldn't vote him in yet as his career is still alive, and there's a lot of people not in that should be in already. I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't think he shouldn't be in the HOF for reasons that don't boil down to "I'm not a fan of him".
@RyanS881
@RyanS881 3 жыл бұрын
Nope nope, I don't see it
@7WalrusGaming7
@7WalrusGaming7 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanS881 If you don't see it based on this stuff then I respect that, wrestling has and always will be based on opinion. I just don't respect people that disregard his achievements purely based on their subjective opinions.
@johnnyzamora8190
@johnnyzamora8190 3 жыл бұрын
Even giving him that much, still... I gotta agree with Brian Last on this one. Omega is NOWHERE near the end of his career. Like him or not, it's too early to even consider him for any Hall of Fame.
@7WalrusGaming7
@7WalrusGaming7 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyzamora8190 Yup I agree
@elfuegojoereno
@elfuegojoereno 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@MetalShadowX
@MetalShadowX 3 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why a majority of wrestlers usually get inducted in the hall of fame at either the end or closing to the end of their career. Imagine if Randy Orton or John Cena was in the WWE Hall of Fame in 2010. And I also doubt many retired wrestlers give two shits about Dave and his newsletter. The only wrestlers that care are the ones who are marks for themselves and want to impress a guy who's an even bigger mark for himself
@steveg2251
@steveg2251 3 жыл бұрын
Cole twins and Pablo Crenshaw next year then.
@authorbandc8814
@authorbandc8814 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Cornie: Twinkle Toes McFingerbang 🤣😂🤣
@simonkeegan5580
@simonkeegan5580 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Jim, but as a British fan, I can tell tell you Big Daddy was a bigger embarrassment than anyone in AEW. As a younger Shirley Crabtree, he could work, but by the time he was famous as Big Daddy, he had the workrate of El Gigante and exposed the business every time he got in the ring. Jay Leno beating up Hulk Hogan was more credible
@ash12345195
@ash12345195 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling observer hall of fame has as much integrity as the WWE hall of fame now
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes
@camron147
@camron147 3 жыл бұрын
How so ? Everyone in the WWE HoF is deserved aside from celebrity and charity picks
@danwong7793
@danwong7793 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer is the new Pat Patterson
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
Pls correct me if im wrong, but their hof doesn't have Arn, Ole and Tully right?
@lucasoliver1123
@lucasoliver1123 3 жыл бұрын
Im curious about knowing the opinion of Jim about Stone Cold actually liking Kenny Omega jajaja
@MARTalks
@MARTalks 3 жыл бұрын
Either a disagree comment or mild-rant. Don’t think he’d go to Jericho-rant levels unless Austin does something “silly” during a wrestling appearance
@bpnk5237
@bpnk5237 3 жыл бұрын
@@MARTalks Austin's already taken a stunner from becky.
@TuMalditaMadre
@TuMalditaMadre 3 жыл бұрын
@@bpnk5237 but that wasn't during a wrestling match or a wrestling tv show, it was during his show and let's be honest, she was the hottest female wrestler in the business at the time.
@bpnk5237
@bpnk5237 3 жыл бұрын
@@TuMalditaMadre ya but she was no where near his level. and she was hottest as per smarks only
@danthemancushecan
@danthemancushecan 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting to hear this....*grabs coffee*
@MilkmanC
@MilkmanC 3 жыл бұрын
lets just say he never left Japan and retires there. So what. If he made waves across wrestling then he deserves credit. Not many can say that considering it was WWE or nothing for a long ass time
@MrStaley
@MrStaley 3 жыл бұрын
I'm slowly but surely starting to like Dave Meltzer. I like how he pisses people off without breaking a sweat
@eastwaters4082
@eastwaters4082 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy right? Meltzer lives in his own world forming his own opinions, and people just rain down and talk about him constantly. He's living good.
@hiddendagger7291
@hiddendagger7291 3 жыл бұрын
hangman vs omega was amazing match
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer's personal hall of fame is a bit odd anyway because it really should be for people when their career is over and their track record is there for all to see. Regardless of it it was for drawing power or in ring talent over either various years in the same promotion or across multiple ones. Not for people you want to promote as Omega while good in Japan for a brief time he hasn't really brought any drawing power to AEW and has been underwhelming at times. From everything said about him when he was in NJPW from Meltzer it was like he was the one single handedly putting on these amazing matches when in reality it was the booking and his opponents that made them good.
@insupportofjunhado
@insupportofjunhado 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody blabs about Okada matches. But is Okada Kazuchika in the WON Hall Of Fame? I don't care if you think Kenny is better than Kazuchika, Okada is objectively more successful. Okada was a golden boy of Toryumon from the start, he had a sucky stint in TNA but the rest is mostly gold. Kenny cannot say the same. What if I did care? If you like Omega's style, Kota Ibushi does it better. Is Kota Ibushi in? Why was Omega even on the ballot? Or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. Maybe since Meltzer has to live with the fact Carlos Colon got voted in he deserves to have his favorite wrestler in too. I just liked things better when his favorite wrestler was Mitsuharu Misawa. Perhaps I'm just blinded by nostalgia but damn I never got the Omega ball sucking! Low Ki was never ridden this hard. Christopher Daniels, Bryan Danielson, Prince Devitt, AJ Styles not even Davey Richards.
@raoulduke8725
@raoulduke8725 3 жыл бұрын
What’s Dave,Kenny,and the bucks going to do when TK gets board of his wrestling toys
@dejuans1328
@dejuans1328 3 жыл бұрын
We all knew it was inevitable but my question is what's the rush Dave? Normally this honor occurs once somebody retires.
@chriscornelius2518
@chriscornelius2518 3 жыл бұрын
Is Hulk Hogan in this Hall of Fame?
@danielreamer8382
@danielreamer8382 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Uncle Dave in real life but I guess that’s besides the point
@joshuabrown5123
@joshuabrown5123 3 жыл бұрын
I've never put much stock in Meltzer's "reporting" but this further erodes any credibility that he once held in this industry.
@jdgustofwinddance.7748
@jdgustofwinddance.7748 3 жыл бұрын
“Held”
@85wastedyears
@85wastedyears 3 жыл бұрын
3:12 I'm a huge Kenny Omega mark, but I have to admit the phrases Jim comes up for him are hilarious.
@vikkorheel9966
@vikkorheel9966 3 жыл бұрын
Jim should be in the hof
@vikkorheel9966
@vikkorheel9966 3 жыл бұрын
@Jim Cornette's Fart Fetish oh cool awesome
@96mrjones
@96mrjones 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually funny cause Cornette was in the inaugural class in 1996 while working in the wwf
@randyjohnson7734
@randyjohnson7734 3 жыл бұрын
no ole anderson though...cuz he never left georgia...where he was getting rich
@ronxxf
@ronxxf 3 жыл бұрын
Those that will be added to next year’s ballot include Nikki Bella Jon Moxley Seth Rollins Dorrell Dixon Bill Dundee Kazuchika Okada Hollywood Blonds (Buddy Roberts & Jerry Brown) Octagon La Parka (AAA version) Psycho Clown
@hipsterdoofus1332
@hipsterdoofus1332 3 жыл бұрын
People like Kenny Omega, why can’t Jim believe that. He doesn’t need to like him.
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