Old And New Testaments Are Consistent

[@lanokr]

6:54 - 7:30 Johnny: “I wanna hear you say, Johnny there was a talking donkey” Caller: I do believe that snakes and donkeys were talking Forrest: “Wild… So Shrek might have been a documentary turns out” Fucking GOLD 😂😂😂😂

[@MovieMakingMan]

Didn’t Johnny say ‘donkeymentary’? The crew and audience laughed at that gem ;)

[@lanokr]

@@MovieMakingMan Thanks for telling me. I did not hear the 'donkeymentary'. But now that I know, it makes this bit even funnier. 🤣 A Gem indeed!

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Donkey is the true Messiah. It’s proven that he’s a Talking Donkey & the Old Testament mentions of Dragons at least 21 times

[@ilovethe80sNW]

Forrest: "If God sent you, then God is dumber than we thought. " I'm dead. 💀 Forrest rules!!

[@neal.karn-jones]

"God can do anything..." anything except prove he exists, I guess.

[@B0Z0606]

My magical invisible dragon can do anything too, he and god aren't too different

[@Nocturnalux]

The mysterious ways are mysterious~~

[@grantwing4942]

He probably can but doesn't want to. It means more fuel for the fires of hell.

[@neal.karn-jones]

Why do you think god is so insecure that all he cares about is if YOU believe in him? Who is he trying to impress? Why does he care about what his "creation" thinks of him? He could just make us think whatever he wants if he's really that powerful.@@grantwing4942

[@lh1673]

Even if does exist, doesn’t care ANY apologist even the insane ones to speak for him😅I wonder why can this God if truest will ALLOW any cult leaders too, to use His NAME😮So sad about the Kenya Christian group, the innocent children had to starve for Jesus, thinking Jesus is watching😢and this supposed true Jesus didn’t appear and STOP it😮

[@rayxav]

My mostly anonymous book has told me I can only get off of my bed if I give offerings to the monster under the bed. If I don’t give an offering, there’s a greater than 0% chance that the monster will get angry, pull me into his realm and torture me forever. Therefore I live my life in fear of the monster under the bed that I have never seen or heard (although there are sometimes strange smells…) Amanuel, THAT’S what you sound like!

[@henrypadilla7973]

@6:42 - Forrest: "He has a conversation with a donkey!" I would argue that the greater astonishment isn't that a person had an argument with a donkey. It's that a donkey spoke and no one SHIT THEIR PANTS!!!

[@nosavepoints]

Amanuel is the perfect theist caller. Its not about trying to convince him, but show those theists who are beginning to question, how crazy the things they were made to believe are once you confront it with logic.

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

"I hope someday we'll see you in person, so we can tell you that we don't believe you in person." 😂 I love it.

[@romankvapil9184]

I love the part where the hosts got Ammanuel to literally say on air in front of thousands of viewers that he believes that snakes and donkey’s can talk.

[@shoulders-of-giants]

Off topic: They can talk, just not in the biblical or strictly human sense.

[@wabbajack2]

Literally, "I trust the Bible because it's consistent with reality," followed by, "God can change reality on a whim."

[@robertlentink5300]

@@shoulders-of-giants They can communicate, not talk.

[@wwlib5390]

why do you love that part?

[@holstatt6896]

@@wwlib5390 because things held in private are not subject to the same scrutiny by oneself as when one vocalizes their belief; gives that information a comprehensible form that others can understand. Saying your absurd beliefs has a power to disspell bad thinking in oneself provided one is trying to actually understand reality.

[@brandonshea4366]

Wow.. the intellectual dishonesty of saying you believe in talking donkeys rather than just admitting you’re wrong.

[@MasterSpade]

10:34 caller says: "if you start with the premise that god can do anything..." He is trained to START with the Conclusion... that right there is the problem. Hopefully he and all others Break Free from that crap. The sooner the better.

[@FakingANerve]

Good on you three for FINALLY staging a bit of an intervention for Amanuel. This is looooooooo... [takes breath] oooooooooong overdue!!

[@joshsheridan9511]

Well it's easy to write a sequel when you have full access to the original script, yet there are errors in the new testament.

[@michaelmay5453]

There are errors in the old testament as well, mainly that it describes a completely incoherent idea and calls that God. It describes things that are directly contradictory and cannot be true.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@michaelmay5453 true but my point was though the writers of the new testament had full access to the old, they still managed to get things wrong.

[@wwlib5390]

@@joshsheridan9511 Maybe they were given a new, more contemporary understanding of what God's word meant from the words written 1400 years before. Anger being subject to the same punishment as murder? Picking heads of grain and eating them and healing on the Sabbath is ok. Summing up ALL the Law and Prophets into 2 simple, easy to follow and remember commandments - love God and love others? Are people so dense today that they misunderstand what 'love others' means, that we had to be given a concise definition in 1 cor 13:4-7 to refer to and check our behavior and attitude? Apparently, God felt the time had come 2,000 years ago to bring a New Covenant with those who will believe - a Covenant that based forgiveness and redemption simply on what Jesus did for us - not anything we could possibly do to earn that? Maybe our lives have become so complicated, so full of distractions that we forget how simple God's Way that was given to us through the NT really is.

[@ajclements4627]

@@wwlib5390 The hoops you lot jump through to try and justify the crap in the Bible. 😂

[@ministryofarguments3525]

@@joshsheridan9511 Happy firstie

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

I love how the new testament tries to retroactively have jesus fulfill prophecies that didn't exist by misquoting random and unrelated old testament passages like Isaiah and jeremiah.

[@jasons8479]

Doesn't even do that very well. The very first chapter of the New Testament quotes Isaiah saying that his name would be called Emmanuel, yet there is no record of him being called that anywhere! If they couldn't even get his name right, how can we trust anything else in it?

[@snooganslestat2030]

​@@KentuckyBradIts a symbolic name.

[@jasons8479]

@@KentuckyBrad What difference does it make what a name means? The name Jason means healer. Does that make me a healer? And what difference does it make if it's a name or a title, when either way he still wasn't called it! By the way, the verse says his NAME shall be called. Where did you pull this "title" business from?

[@benjovoli]

​@@jasons8479I think he's getting the 'title' argument from Isaiah 9:6, it lists a number of 'names' that the Messiah would be given, all of which are really titles as we would apply them in the English language, and they seem to be provided to describe his character rather than explicitly state what he would be called. That's why I think Immanuel's meaning is something @kentuckybrad brings up in his argument, as it also has a meaning which could be applied to Jesus. The Messiah or Christ seems to have many names, but colloquially he was called Jesus in the Greek Scriptures, the name his mother gave him.

[@juanausensi499]

@@KentuckyBrad All names in Hebrew are also titles. Laughing emoji. Laughing emoji. Laughing emoji. Laughing emoji. Laughing emoji .Laughing emoji.

[@stratahawk_1]

I replaced God with the Flying Spaghetti Monster in all of Ammanuel's responses. Now he has to accept the FSM as his new god and this one doesn't have a torture pit so it's a step up.

[@smochygrice465]

😋

[@jasons8479]

I heard the FSM will throw you in a big pot of boiling marinara or alfredo, but it could just be a rumor.

[@Columbiastargazer]

that "loving" god sure hates a lot

[@FellVoice]

His followers damn sure do.

[@FellVoice]

@@KentuckyBrad have you read the bible, lol, god's love is that of a criminally abusive parent and his followers are really bad about using "the word" to justify their own bigotry. The children usually learn it from the parent and this isn't any different.

[@JorgeFCR2502]

Yup, very much 'a hater' as his human creators.

[@allouarn4060]

Ammanuel : Donkeys talk. I'm living proof.

[@wilberwhateley7569]

The only way you can argue that the two testaments are consistent is if you cherry pick select portions, remove them from their original context and force them together in ways that no legitimate scholar would ever support.

[@dsp6373]

Just on the Messiah alone the two utterly inconsistent. That’s not taking into account all other topics of inconsistencies. The Hebrew Bible (HB) requires the Messiah to be of an unbroken patrilineal line back to king David. But according to the New Testament (NT) Jesus had no blood father, so it is claimed. Big inconsistency of the NT with the HB. The Hebrew Bible requires the Messiah to be born from a young female (almah) NOT a virgin (betulah), because the Messiah must be conceived by a human father. Yet the New Testament makes the claim that Mary was a virgin. The last time I checked, being young doesn’t mean you’re automatically a virgin (just ask unwed teen moms or grape victims), and being old doesn’t mean you’re not a virgin (just ask nuns and spinsters). The writers of the Bible understood this distinction in words which exist in Hebrew as they do in English. The word for virgin would’ve been used if that was the characteristic important to the Messiah’s mother. The Hebrew Bible prohibits succession to hereditary patrilineal positions by non-patrilineal descendants; the preisthood positions, Cohanim, Leviim, the Monarch position (Melech), the Messiah position (Moshaich), membership into one of the 12 Israelite tribes is by the father’s tribe, if you have no father or unknown father you have no tribe, you lose patrilineal membership. There are so many inconsistencies between the NT and the HB just as relates to the basic pre-requisites of being elegible to be the Messiah which Jesus didn’t possess, that it becomes irrelevant to even go into figuring out whether it’s a problem that he didn’t fulfil the prophecies of what the messiah would accomplish while on earth. Finally, the Messiah according to the HB will not be divine, just an ordinary human being, not a part of any triune god. On this the NT doesn’t actually make a claim of god being a trinity, that’s actually an invention of the church. It is contained in extra biblical decrees of the church fathers. It is dogma.

[@pallejensen9484]

Well not quiet. They are consistenly bad both of them

[@loganbradford2343]

The cut to the live audience was such a hilarious suprise.

[@F34RZCH4N]

I'm sooooo glad I found this channel

[@MovieMakingMan]

Me too. I discovered the channel two years ago when I had Covid. Since then I’ve discovered many other atheist channels, all the great hosts and went on a bat cruise a year ago. Listening to people using logic & reasoning to dismantle the Bible and countless fallacies has greatly boosted my knowledge. All the best to you.

[@Mark73]

"If you regard evidence as a constraint and seek to free yourself, you sell yourself into the chains of your whims." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, _Twelve Virtues of Rationality_

[@MG-ot2yr]

Its only consistent if the main character suffers from paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and needs some serious anger management.

[@wizardsuth]

Don't forget malignant narcissism. "Worship me or I'll torture you forever. Exterminate those who don't worship me, along with their families, and destroy all temples and altars build in honour of any other gods."

[@monodescarado]

Every time I hear his name, I just feel bad. The guy needs to break free from his abusive relationship with God. Edit: glad Johnny called it out towards the end. He nailed it.

[@alisonjones8861]

He gives TONS of examples of his beliefs, but they are all from that book which there is still no external evidence to support the claims made in it.

[@loganbradford2343]

I can't imagine being so deep in these weeds. Imagine citing magical spells to prove Harry Potter was real

[@gabrielesimionato1210]

​@@KentuckyBrad😂😂😂😂

[@gazzas123]

In my state we still have blasphemy laws but only protecting the Christian god. Could someone explain why a god who is all powerful needs men to protect him/her?

[@phillgornall2296]

He may be powerful, But he’s still a sensitive boy.

[@MrCanis4]

"Old And New Testaments Are Consistent" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@FellVoice]

If by consistent you mean it's all a myth that crazy people cling to like a life raft, then yeah.

[@iannuckols8876]

Probably my favorite panel of all time.

[@madamsloth]

Agreed 😂

[@duckarse11]

Congratulations Amanuel, you win my TOOYA Award, well done....( TOOYA stands for...Talking Out Of Your Arse ).

[@fdoe9184]

Curious why Emmanuel (?) doesn't believe in Zeus, Odin or Jupiter? They were written about in a book - probably as old or older than the bible. So it MUST be true. The same with gospel of Paul Bunyan and his giant blue ox.

[@Glasschin2.0]

1600 years older than the Bible

[@fdoe9184]

@@Glasschin2.0 forgot how much older. I was very young in those days. :- )

[@youarnb]

I seriously love how graceful the team is when they encounter someone out of their depth. Religion is absolutely a mind virus.

[@neal.karn-jones]

I'm not an expert but I was taught the Jewish messiah was supposed to save us all while he was here. He was not supposed to die and come back. That's why Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

Not to forget that Jesus didn't even fulfill all of the prophecies that foretold the coming of a messiah.

[@neal.karn-jones]

Yes, I'm sure you're correct. I've heard some other reasons, like you said, but I forget them. The fact that he was not supposed to die always stood out to me though. @@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

@@KentuckyBrad What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34).

[@wizardsuth]

You might be able to prove that no one is delivering Subway sandwiches to Forrest's closet, but maybe the goblin is teleporting them there. He's magical, after all. : )

[@karapalmer7228]

Praise Roland the closet goblin!

[@owenoulton9312]

Oh, c'mon Amanuel, you know the old testament isn't even bloody well consistent with *_ITSELF_*

[@budd2nd]

I feel soo sorry for the mental damage that has been done to your critical thinking skills Emmanuel. It has really demolished your reasoning abilities, but I do hope that it’s not a permanent disability. But the first step of rehabilitation will require you to erase the mental shackles that you are wearing and that’s incredibly hard. I wish you luck going further.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

Amanuel must actively enjoy embarrassing himself with his nonsense, given the amount of calls he makes. 😂

[@sohu86x]

Emmanuel probably

[@Finckelstein]

I don't even think it's embarassing more than really, really sad. Amanuel is trapped in his own personal hell. He's the poster boy for how abusive religion is.

[@graffic13]

Jonah and the whale is my favorite... image his resurrection after being a chew toy for orcas 😂😂😂😂

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

He's applying typology discussed in church as EVIDENCE. He's not realizing that JUST given Jonah, you wouldn't conclude Jesus, but in hindsight you can see things as typology. I had a Catholic once tell me about the Mary typologies in the old testament. Protestants never talk about those, but apparently they prove Mary should be venerated like Catholics venerate her, right? You start with your beliefs FIRST, and then you go looking for any pattern that supports it.

[@Onganana]

Hosts: Show us evidence The guy: I believe that… …skip to the effing why and provide evidence!! Stop this madness and make a difference, theists!

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

I think he's so right that it's a way to escape being honest with yourself. So much for the "truth"

[@tommyvictorbuch6960]

A reminder: Have you talked to your donkey today?

[@Vurbanowicz]

The New Testament writers actually made an effort to be consistent with the Old Testament, at least to the version they knew, which was the Greek Septuagint version. They presented Jesus as the Messiah of the Old Testament.

[@stephenpatterson8056]

Forrest missed a golden opportunity to refer to Shrek as a donkumentary and that upsets me 😂

[@nicksykes4575]

A one word definition of Amanuel is........gullible.

[@robby7499]

This is embarrassing.

[@michaelmay5453]

Well, yeah. It is, however, your everyday Christian representing.

[@liberalinoklahoma1888]

It is refreshing to see open minds looking at our religious beliefs and fact checking them , most that have come before were afraid or plain dishonest to question them .

[@pallejensen9484]

Because even to this day many of us nonbelivers would get killed many many places all over the world. Im not sure what dishonesty u have met on ur way so i cant really speak to that. Even if any god was proven to be real (specially the christian one) i still wouldnt follow him. Hes a monster, and there is no 2 ways about it. Im a 4th generation atheist and i do just fine on my own. And every time something good or bad happens in my life i take ownership of ALL of it to the degree its me whos doing it. Belivers tent to blame their god for specially the good things in their lives. Insted of taking atleast some of the glory for the work they do them selfs. Witch is really sad

[@henrypadilla7973]

@10:33 - Amanuel: "If you start with the premise that God could do anything..." But... why? Why would I start with this premise? What is compelling you to start with this premise? I would argue that, if you start with the premise that God could do anything then... why bother doing anything for yourself? Why discover? Why invent? Why... bother.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

Now here's my thing too, guys. If his calls or some of them were bullshit calls for attention be it trolling or anything else, Amanuel _strongly_ fails in that area as well? Because not only is he _not_ attracting Theists, but i'm extremely confident that with every logical blow he's taken has actually welcomed more nonbelievers during his times of "shining". So either way, it's a thanks to him.

[@robwilkes3351]

Maybe it's confirmation bias, but I love how often you get theist callers in who's chosen topic of discussion results in "maybe they didn't listen to the earlier part of the show". It's a demonstration of both the fact that they don't listen AND that all of their arguments are so recycled.

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

Amanuel our favorite comedian🤣🤣

[@brucewilliams4152]

The old and new testament are inconsistent with in their own texts.

[@bobmasters9871]

I havent had time to watch the full episode, was there something earlier in the episode about marvel that I missed? Theres a lot of references going around. Secondly: Is this the culmination of the Emanuel arc? I THINK I've seen all the calls hes made, and this felt hopefully like where everything was leading, maybe the best conversation you've had with him throughout this time

[@Gdwmartin]

Now I'm not a biblical scholar of any stripe. So PLEASE correct me if I am mis-informed. Isn't the Bible a constructed anthology of 66 books in most versions? Wouldn't it make sense that within that anthology of books that it be constructed to agree with itself? Wouldn't that be a resonable goal of the constructors of the anthology to be that way? It's no wonder it agrees with itself. It was made that way.

[@wizardsuth]

That was the main purpose of the First Nicaean Council: to assemble a version of the bible that was reasonably consistent both internally and with what the clergy were preaching at the time. It was... not entirely successful.

[@nealjroberts4050]

The Synod of Hippo established a canon of 72 books.

[@arjunrajendran4826]

We all should feel sorry for Amanuel, he will rethink and will soon be a Rationalist. I wish him luck..!

[@akrulla]

I think is my favourite AXP team. ❤

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

Mormons could have a verse in their Book of Mormon that says "The old and new testaments prophesied of the book of Mormon in everything that they say." Does that make the book of Mormon legit?

[@padre764]

I cannot wait for the episode where Forrest shows us the closet goblin

[@o-hogameplay185]

both old and new testaments are full of BS, and impossible crap, so we can call that consistent

[@jesuslopez-fe7dv]

If the gospel is the word of God like Catholic Church teaches it wouldn't matter who wrote which gospel, it should always be exactly the same or God is telling different people different things when talking about the same thing.

[@499PUCK]

He thinks science has no effect on his life? I guess he never goes to the doctor. And what is he talking on? A phone made thru science. How delusional can a person be?

[@AnimeLuver0604]

✨Cognitive dissonance✨

[@PeteOtton]

Perhaps he is an example of what Sagan or Asimov said about advanced enough technology appears magical. Honestly, I don't think most people really give the tech in their lives a second thought.

[@joseoliveira3691]

These three guys are amazing

[@blueredingreen]

If he is calling because he's waiting for that one argument that will finally convince him... he won't find it. He needs to look inwards and ask himself those difficult questions that the hosts have asked him over the years, and reflect on those. He needs to face his fear of hell to be able to really question whether he has any good reason to believe any of this, and to then hopefully accept that he has no good reason and then stop believing it.

[@toddcott9510]

As a talking donkey, I'm with Emanuel all the way.

[@arnoldfossman1701]

For callers like that you might try offering the lyrics of: Reason To Believe Song by Rod Stewart

[@redmed10]

Normal people don't call. So you are left with the zealots who never answer a straight question with a straight answer.

[@ajclements4627]

A troll trying to call out those with low IQ. 🤨

[@amontrealpaul226]

@@JimCastleberry Well, you certainly don't play that game- you never support anything you say rationally, let alone prove it, even as you demand that others prove the contrary... hold on, is Seditious Edith a master projectionist?

[@joshsheridan9511]

The callers tend to be pentecostal/evangelical, normal Christians know their beliefs are subjective so don't consider pushing those beliefs on others.

[@PeteOtton]

If it weren't a religious book the bible would be rejected by publishers for being bad writing and editing. The violence is appalling and the sex is not even enjoyable (other than one of psalms.) As a book of morality it isn't.

[@pamelashook1987]

I love Johnny... hahaha he's so sarcastic in such a funny way ahahhahaha

[@coreymurdoch5915]

Emanuel, bless his heart, truly believes he’s doing the Lord’s work by calling in to convince you guys. He really has no idea how ineffective he is.

[@bitofwizdomb7266]

Should have asked him if since the caller believes that donkeys talk and other biblical nonsense then he must also consider that Muhammad split the moon in half and flew to heaven on a winged horse. Can’t have double standards

[@wizardsuth]

The Qu'ran claims that salt water and fresh water don't mix. Has any Muslim tried combining them to see whether they remain separate? All you need is half a glass of each and a spoon.

[@jackwestofficial]

When it's written in the NT that this or that was prophesied or that the prophets of old bore witness, you'll find no such reference in the OT. It's either misquoted, misapplied, taken out of context or just plain doesn't exist.

[@brianray2614]

Outstanding!

[@jaybirdjetwings7516]

It's like forrest tries not to laugh when dealing with these people

[@utes5532]

Ah, Amanuel. Just hearing that name makes me lose brain cells

[@doneestoner9945]

Yea !

[@stultusvenator3233]

Amanuel puts up the kind of argument that helps smarter people start to really question and get out of religion. He is an Atheist Asset.

[@craigkelly4278]

As for snakes talking to people If one came towards me I run if one started talking I think I was mad. I would also crap myself 😂😂

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@KentuckyBrad the original just says serpent, because a talking dragon is way more believable than a talking 🐍 /s

[@craigkelly4278]

@@KentuckyBrad it can either be a serpent or a snake both can be used as they are important in Greek and Hebrew Egyptian culture. Word dragon is also used. Which just makes it sound all the more crazy

[@garymiles484]

You've been watching too much Dave Allen. Can't blame you, he was a very funny comedian.

[@craigkelly4278]

@@garymiles484 good somebody got the reference 😆 🤣

[@craigkelly4278]

@@KentuckyBrad you really are not making a very good case here you are providing more ammunition to AE. You first have to prove God exists in order for any of what you claim can make sense. Perhaps it better you say nothing until you can provide. Real evidence of Sin and God ect..

[@atrution]

If a god is willing to threaten you, what makes you sure they wouldn't lie to you? Violent retribution seems less immoral than lying. How can you trust they wouldn't torture you even if you did what they said? If they have any desire to torture people after death, you can't be sure you will be exempted. How can you trust they can torture you if you ignore them? Many of these religions have a tempter with lesser power than they claim, with no proof the main god is not similar.

[@atrution]

@@KentuckyBrad two points I'd like to make. 1st) In your belief, our god made a system where there is a good after life and a bad afterlife separate from each other. That is coercive, easily understood principal when compared to Jewish view of a singular afterlife. That not withstanding though, "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” - Matthew 25:46 those don't sound like simply absence. 2nd) If an all powerful universe shaping deity wanted to disallow an action, it should not be possible to perform. Best exemplified by video games like Skyrim where sex crimes aren't possible and you can't kill children, because the programmers denied those possibilities. Just as you are denied the ability to walk through walls or walk on air, their already exist constraints on what you can and can not achieve.

[@atrution]

@@KentuckyBrad I want to explain why you think that is a logical trap, and why it is not. Your question do I think evil men should go to heaven, requires I think there is a heaven and that I think justice is handled on a cosmic scale. This is a similar "trap" question to do you think the starving should be able to steal food? In both instances, the problem lies elsewhere. For your question, why in a universe with a cosmic judge with great power are such evil men allowed to achieve such terrible feats? For my parallel, why are people starving when there is an abundance of food? To answer your question, I do not believe in evil people, I believe in those who are mislead, untreated, or under-educated. Hitler believed what he was doing was for the benefit of humanity, and he killed less people than your god did with a single flood. Bin Laden believes in a similarly cruel religion, that is just a bit more expressly militant, those who know Islam exist and don't choose it are infadels and they should be converted or killed, just as the Abrahamic god smote any nonchosen who looked at his arc. John Wayne Gacy (I assume you don't mean the actor), who commit sex crimes and murder was a sick man living in a country that stigmatizes therapy and privatizes health-care to be unaffordable, mean while your god approved daughters forcing themselves on their father to have kids, and enslavement of people. If your after life of Heaven and Hell exist, your own god belongs in Hell.

[@atrution]

@@KentuckyBrad It would seem you read very little of what I wrote, but we have made progress as you have admit Hell is bad and it is a threat. To be clear "punishment" is a threat, and is negative reinforcement. This as is discussed in the video, is the pressure that keeps the caller subscribed to the faith, and normally Pascal's Wager is debunked by bringing up other contradicting similar faiths. But in effort to alleviate pressure and not just apply counteracting ones, I say consider the character of this position, Would an almighty being that has good intentions use such a tactic?'

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

​@@KentuckyBradyou just admitted that God tortures his creations, he's not real though. You believe In a genocidal pedophile

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

​@@KentuckyBradAccording to the bible, Hitler would be in heaven for being catholic. You're an ape

[@L_o_c_a_l_G_u_y]

I wish this was the climax of the Emmanuel phase of the MCU. I wish this was the movie where he said "Ohhh... wait a minute... What I believe doesn't make sense!"

[@k45207]

So shrek was a documentary 😂😂😂

[@jonnowds]

Every call from Amanuel is a cry for help 😣

[@nezz0r]

The donkey story gets even worse if you consider that he wasn't even suprised that his donkey suddenly started to talk. I mean let's assume you pass by a donkey and then that donkey suddenly starts speaking to you. Would you then just look at the donkey and speak with it like you would with a human, like it is nothing special at all? Like not being suprised at all? Numbers 22:27-30 "27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat it with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?” 29 Balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now.” 30 The donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your own donkey, which you have always ridden, to this day? Have I been in the habit of doing this to you?” “No,” he said."

[@xlink316]

Roland the Closet Goblin can do anything

[@TheTruthKiwi]

These 3 are absolute goats 😊

[@craigkelly4278]

Has this guy been on before??? His voice sounds familiar. Please for the love of others stop giving this man air time

[@chrisdraughn5941]

Yes, he calls in a lot. I’m tired of hearing from him.

[@joshsheridan9511]

Yep Amanuel is a repeat caller, with bugger all to say that's worth listening to.

[@martin2289]

@@joshsheridan9511Seems to be a hobby for him to call in every week, forever asking the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible.

[@ajclements4627]

@@martin2289 Chris Massey is the Amanuel of the threads.

[@philzeo]

The call for Amanuel's conversion to a less damaging form of Christianity is really funny to me.

[@nathanpitts5297]

JMike’s hair and beard are majestic.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Ammanuel, The perfect religious lemming, On his way off the cliff.

[@gazzas123]

The sacrificed lamb does not rise from the dead.

[@yep_2431]

If you stick around on these shows long enough you'll run into a emanual countless times. He doesn't do coherency, and he doesn't listen. Time after time. interesting that this guy just doesn't wise up

[@Mark73]

Not only did the donkey talk, but the guy takes it completely in stride like it's a normal thing.

[@beatdownblackjack]

It's sad Emanuel is only stuck to faith out fear alone. I hope he can cone to terms with reality.

[@davidhurst100]

Oh, my dog talks. I wait 'til he goes to sleep and move his bottom lip whilst I do my ventriloquist act. If I did it while he was awake he would bite me...

[@amtlpaul]

Dandruff is now also claiming to be an expert on what true Christianity is. If any of the other trolls here qualify as false Christians by his reckoning, perhaps they think likewise of him. If that is so, let them fight it out while I get some 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿

[@rubenwilliams.]

01:40 this was funny 😅😂😂

[@amtlpaul]

Dan-dy3ft keeps preaching that we need to stop thinking independently and just accept the demands of his ideology that we wall ourselves off in a closed epistemic system. This is what makes particularly cultish ideologies, religious and otherwise, so dangerous.

[@amtlpaul]

​@@Dan-dy3ftThis is my response to your post. What do you think?

[@amtlpaul]

So, ​@@Dan-dy3ft, I copied your posts in an attempt to be fair to you when I could do it easily. On my phone, I can't, so I just give my interpretation of what you said, because if you can't be bothered to leave your original post up, I reckon I needn't be too worried about being unfair to you. So long as you leave your post up, people can see for themselves how fairly I am representing what you are saying. If you don't, tough luck to you.

[@joshsheridan9511]

It wouldn't surprise me if dandruff is also run away Bradley, they're both cowards who delete their posts after making complete tits of themselves.

[@amtlpaul]

​@@Dan-dy3ftIt's your business whether you want to leave your posts up.

[@ajclements4627]

@@joshsheridan9511 Brad whines that others are deleting his threads and comments, Danny boy is at least honest in that he knows he’s deleting any record of his ignorance.

[@AdalbertPtak]

Yes, they are consistently irrational and unbelievable !!!

[@AntitheistHuman]

Emmanuel needs some real mental aid. Cannot believe we have people with this mindset in the XXI century smh.

[@raymondnelson9193]

Lol the guys’ reaction when Katie’s name was mentioned.

[@JazerNorth]

Snakes talk! Read Harry Potter!

[@BootBizarre]

Please, for the love of non-existent god... stop giving time to this obvious troll.

[@michaelmay5453]

I don't think he's a troll at all, in fact I think he's your everyday honest Christian who believes whatever he's told and when he reads the bible he likes the interpretations he's told are true. I think it makes for pretty good calls.

[@BootBizarre]

​@@michaelmay5453 This isn't his first time calling, he's a regular troll and it's really getting old. On one of his other calls, he literally made the point that god is good because he's good to some people even though he tortures others. By that logic, Hitler was a good person if he was nice to his friends. Amanuel is a troll.

[@BootBizarre]

@@michaelmay5453 My response was blocked, maybe you can see it in your notifications.

[@wwlib5390]

Yes, they should just allow atheists to call in and share their personal experiences and benefits of living totally free of all-things God. Sort of like 'no talk of God or the Bible allowed."

[@BootBizarre]

@@wwlib5390 How does my comment of banning obvious trolls (which they have done before) mean they should ban ALL theists and ALL talk of god and bible? Go on, explain...

[@humps678]

Forrest's hair ❤❤❤❤

[@backinblack03]

I think i was about 6yo when I started noticing discrepancies and canning bs