OLD HOLLYWOOD SCANDALS - Roger Troutman!😯😯😯

[@AshleySaysSo20]

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[@CoriNicole19EightyTree]

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[@carolyndye2615]

You did it again Ashley I learned alot and I'm from Ohio and didn't know this scandal Chile!!!

[@deloresremy2929]

Hey Ashley saysSo! 💕 Love your content 💞. God bless you!!!

[@deloresremy2929]

@@CoriNicole19EightyTree I 💕 love those too

[@nettnettwarren1432]

Be sure to check out my book coming soon to Amazon. Girl in the Band: 1st Lady of ZAPP 🥰

[@nreynolds75243]

Moral of the story: NEVER do business with family or friends. It rarely goes well.

[@bernicesmith4248]

Nope the real moral is,separate business from personal and family life. Business is business, family is family, and fun is fun, you just can't do them all at once, that's what never works.

[@timmy841212]

@@bernicesmith4248 ^ This.

[@eigna8914]

I dont think thats it. The moral of the story os stick together no matter what. Learn about making and leaving legacies for your own family!

[@timmy841212]

@@eigna8914 No, OP is right.

[@quintonfauntleroy]

I can understand where a lot of this went wrong or how it can go wrong. I am very involved with my family and would really hate to think that we would do anything like that to each other. Hearing stories like these and also adding other aspects into the equation such as the industry, egos and other factors can make a person lose one’s self if they allow it. In this case, however it has gone, I wouldn’t say that you should not ever do business with family because as we all know families come in many different forms and shapes; you just can’t always trust everyone. I would like to personally think that I wouldn’t let a dollar change me and turn me against my family, if that were the case in this story and so many others that I’ve heard. So I don’t think it’s so much don’t do business with family, I think it’s more so of just making sure that you are trustworthy and also able to trust the people or persons that you are in business with and not lose who you are in that process.

[@kevinlawrence8580]

Roger Troutman. An underrated genius.

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

He's not under rated, ge is a legend and kids today still know there music

[@user-ls5so2ug2g]

@@kayshawnsimmons6822 Yes he is known. But not for being a legend. He's known bc of using the synthesizer in his music. It was he who introduced us to Shirley Murdoch. Probably one of the greatest vocalist of the 80's. He wrote his music. But when you say his name.... All people think of is the synthesizer.

[@robinlight]

Maybe to you.

[@jaewilliams9685]

Roger inspired a whole generation and genre that came decades after he debuted. That's influence. Besides their own Funk, Zapp influenced GFunk, Techno, House, Alternative R&B, & Trap Music.

[@timmy841212]

Definitely. Roger was a pioneer and trailblazer.

[@gnosferatu667]

George Clinton and Bootsy Collins gave them that whole sound

[@Nocturnal11Guy]

Movies as well.

[@PlayaPotna1984]

They also influenced new jack swing to an extent in the case of Teddy Riley.

[@donniewebster7041]

Zapp went on tour with Prince, The Time, and Vanity6. Those had to be some good concerts , I wish I had seen one.

[@boydgreg8468]

No vanity 6 was there

[@kamelhamlaoui9983]

You can find a great picture of Prince & Roger together!!!!💕☔️😉😎

[@1963teddybear]

I went to that concert

[@juliemarshall7913]

That was really tragically sad. What a waste. Sometimes you can never know what's going on inside someone's head.

[@JustSayin-mz9jb]

It's downright heartbreaking. I remember when the news hit the radio. I cries as if I knew them. So many beautiful memories of mine have their music in my soundtrack.

[@jeromeosills6522]

The sad part is..Roger didn't care about what was going on in his brother's head. That's why he got what he got!!!

[@slseym07]

That whole family has been through it! Roger’s son, Roger Lynch, passed away four years after his dad from a mysterious head injury. And I recently found out that Lexi Alajai (not sure of the spelling), and up and coming rapper who passed of a drug overdose last year, was Roger Lynch’s daughter and Roger Troutman’s granddaughter. It’s just a whole messed up situation…

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Omg are you serious she was 21 a baby I knew she looked familiar it was in the eyes she was talented too

[@auntieeva4098]

Sadly it sounds like a generational curse.

[@modgafr1852]

R.I.P Roger Lynch 😢

[@liljroc4620]

Yeh it’s definitely a generational thing…..

[@lauraveney1412]

Junior had moved to Minneapolis and was killed in a fight at a bar. I do not think they ever caught the person who did it.

[@ttopbugatti9430]

I once danced with Roger.. at one of his concerts, he came up to me with his guitar 🎸.. flirted with me but I didn’t take to his advances.. I missed that Train ie: the story of my life🥴 …I love me some Roger to infinity and beyond ‼️❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@auntieeva4098]

You were saved from tragedy and trauma.

[@arleatriceburroughs1455]

I met Roger Troutman at a record shop in Charleston SC when computer love first came out I begged my mom to take me to meet them she did we took a pic together that night they had a show my sister & I went we had so much fun! The audience noticed how the band was all over us. The next night we went to see them again this time we met Shirley Murdock she was so sweet we came to the show about an hour before the show started, Shirley Murdock stepped down off the stage introduced herself to us & told us that her album would be out soon. When the show started Roger Troutman stepped off the stage and came over to our table the spot light followed him & when he came over to our table girls & guys we knew from our neighborhood mouths were hanging wide open those haters couldn't believe it! It's more to this story you have to read my book🤭

[@Tornado1994]

I wish you got to meet his son. Roger Jr. He co founded Mint Condition.

[@alexaashley9066]

What's the name of the book

[@arleatriceburroughs1455]

A Ghetto Story.

[@alexaashley9066]

I read it good read 😊

[@arleatriceburroughs1455]

@@alexaashley9066 thank you for your support 👍

[@amircollins8065]

You should do Madame Cj Walker. She’s not Hollywood but she’s definetely a huge apart of media and The Black Mecca

[@camarz8517]

Ohhh Yeah!!! That would be a Good one!!

[@valr1260]

Yeah that Netflix movie did not get it right.

[@kevinrichmond6513]

Yes indeed

[@marquitashiver6141]

Yes and then her daughter.

[@gloriousjohnson1807]

How her only child (daughter) tricked off her fortune.

[@Truth-Teller414]

I Wanna be Your Man’ my all time favorite Zapp& Roger❤️❤️❤️

[@sheberry9512]

I love how she tells a story!👍🏼

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

Yes, she's like a friend who comes over to give you all the tea👀🍿☕

[@kve1247]

I was literally just watching Roger Troutman on Sinbad’s summer of soul!! Omg!! Such a talented man & so sad what happened to him & his brother! Very tragic! Thanks Ashley for covering his story!!

[@Jaheartsjonas]

@@coryrogers846 why are you leaving this comment as a reply on every unrelated comment? That is spam at this point.

[@jordashi]

@@Jaheartsjonas just dislike it and flag it so KZbin will remove it

[@sharonsimmons7824]

Well done Ashley on Rodger Troutmam Story. Enjoy your videos. Much love always.

[@weldamalone6161]

You ain't lying about some folks just being lazy my brother tried to start a housing community for people who said they needed help to get started. Well guess what? They got the help and then just never started🙄 he built two houses and then stopped because he wasn't making enough money from rent from the ones he built for people. He almost went under trying to help folks who didn't want to be helped. I'm not saying it's all people but it's definitely alot that are like that. It's sad.

[@AHMAD-2324]

Kane and Abel all over again...SMGDH such a sad ending for something that started out so beautiful. RIP Roger and Larry Troutman.

[@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879]

RIP Roger troutman he was the best from the 1980s and 90s

[@fancydani]

Home of funk- Dayton OH. Troutman is a legend in our city. He was way before his time, I’m surprised the song Computer Love 💕 wasn’t really talked about on this video it’s a classic! I hate that his brother killed him 😓

[@freestateofgrizzy1937]

Alot of musical legends came from Ohio

[@marthettalewis5107]

@@freestateofgrizzy1937 I use to think that Zapp & Roger, was from California.🤣

[@themagicians1122]

@@freestateofgrizzy1937 They. CALL US THE HOME OF THE FUNK, ZAPP, SLAVE, LAKESIDE, OHIO PLAYERS, HEATWAVE, SLAVE, FAZE-O ( RIDING HIGH), THE ISLEY BROTHERS, DAYTON/ CINCINATTI AND LEVERT . YES WE OWN &R&B AND FUNK MUSIC OHIOOOOOOOOOO BABY!!!!

[@freestateofgrizzy1937]

@@marthettalewis5107 You would think that huh but back in the day you never really knew where an artist was from

[@capricornqueen3139]

Yess Dayton Roll Call Townview❤ Aka The Gem City✊🏿👑💎

[@pinkaurianna8876]

One of my dad's favorite stories to tell is how in the eighties he was in the club and how he was so fine, he took Roger Troutman's woman he brought and they almost had a fist fight lmao. Who's to know if it's true or not but I love that story. Love ya Ash!

[@wilbyscomfortomahaneownerc2463]

😂😂😂

[@garyprater8139]

That's not hard to believe because Roger didn't treat his women well and he was very arrogant.

[@alexaashley9066]

@@garyprater8139 elaborate please about the arrogance and awww how u know he didn't treat them right

[@luzluna6808]

😂😂😂

[@alexaashley9066]

@@luzluna6808 girl I am shocked 😯😳

[@lorriekelly964]

So sad the way Roger left us. Will always miss Him especially the music He would have made. But one thing is real Jealousy is real ! Even with Family. Bless Him to have made It to Heaven. ❤

[@lucyall1898]

So sad. Money between friends and relatives create a thinner line between love and hate. Family equals entitlement and emotions. Roger was still being a little brother when he got in his big brother's car. Roger couldnt' grow up. Love him. His music is alive! Thank you for this story.🥰

[@taragraham6628]

Roger could not how Up no Larry Yoko things to far you can rebuild a bussiness talking soneones life is not be undone

[@TC-firstclasscloser]

Sadness overload, because Larry really needed lots of therapy, a financial literacy program to teach him how to recoup from real estate (which is generational wealth when done right), (business LLC’s for the empire especially one for Roger & his children) and a stress management outlet (exercise, writing, meditation etc.). Well could’ve, should’ve or would’ve but never did and that’s a tragedy for Roger and Zap Enterprise. Remember you can’t afford to help everyone if you can’t help yourself first.

[@jeromeosills6522]

So your basically blaming Larry for everything huh? What about the fact that it was a family business starting out then when financial strains come along from trying to help the community everybody abandons ship and leave one holding the bag.

[@luzluna6808]

Very wee said.

[@missvida6251]

@@jeromeosills6522I don’t think Larry was to blame for everything. I truly believe he wanted to keep the band together and I don’t think he was stealing money. He was broken at 37:02 the end.

[@goldenlady3495]

"They had their pick of the litter, honey! And yes, by 'litter' I mean 🐱litter..." I AM THRU 😂😂😂

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

I hadn't heard about this until years later. My suspicion is Vietnam messed Larry up in the head. I've seen it firsthand with my Uncle and my mother's ex. War is no joke! I feel equally bad for both of them. But 'Computer Love'? Gurrrl that is STILL the jam!

[@user-ls5so2ug2g]

The funny part is when that song came out, no one had a 💻. 😂 But it did go well with the synthesizers. I loved "I wanna be your man". We were lil kids and my boyfriend sang it to me after he gave me some strawberry now &layers. 😂It was true love. 😂

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

@@user-ls5so2ug2g Awwwww...that's cute! If he buys you candy, he's that into you! 🤣🤣🤣

[@slim420-e8v]

Maybe someone else killed both of them.

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

@@slim420-e8v Explain😅😅😅👍🏾

[@bernicesmith4248]

Vietnam massed him up terrible. He had no real family support in that aspect of his life.

[@leamcclain1648]

Doo Wa Ditty ( Blow That Thing) is my favorite Zapp and Roger song!

[@TortoiseJames]

Mine too!!!

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

Computer Love was legendary, I remember being in grade school an the boys making the beat on the tables an the whole lunch room would go up. 🎼🎼🎼💃💃💃💃💃

[@chrisisslick]

Who remembers their unsung episode? Just sad smh. I'm about to tune into Ashley and see if she sheds any new light.

[@jholliday424]

I do it was so sad.

[@lorrainejohnson5461]

I do. I couldn't believe it! How sad 😢

[@tyardovdabulldht2340]

I heard Larry had a tear rolling down his face when his body was found.

[@tyardovdabulldht2340]

@Keisha Few That's so sad.

[@timmy841212]

Yeah I heard that too. In fact it was Shirley Murdock who said it. 😢

[@gwenstevens1963]

Hey Ashley 🌹RIP ROGER I REMEMBER WHEN THIS FIRST AIRED I CRIED 😭😭 Family and money investment don’t mix !!! Thanks Ashley

[@dahmeneekah]

Family and money investment apparently does mix. Almost Every corporation out here is family. We work for families (if you have a job). There just needs to be others included while doing business that isn't close in emotions - which is what helps keeps things going.

[@kennethfuquaii469]

If Larry was on drugs, he definitely was stealing money from the company. No doubt about it. Also, if he was desperate enough to kill his own flesh and blood and himself, you know he was responsible for the bad decisions of the enterprise. So sad. Many blessings to the Troutman family

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

The sad part is that if Larry was allegedly on drugs, it sounds like self-medication. Like I said above, Vietnam messed him up. Most of the military suffered from PTSD. And alot of soldiers of color suffered even worse because there were no resources like therapy offered to them unlike their white counterparts. I'm not excusing him for killing his brother, but it sounded like Larry wasn't able to go through the proper channels for help. Js....

[@user-ls5so2ug2g]

@@IJustCant-jj2rv War cripples many. I'm not talking just physically. I'm talking emotionally and mentally. You don't go through something like war and then come home and not be harmed emotionally and mentally. No one's that strong. No one.

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

@@user-ls5so2ug2g Precisely! If anyone comes back from war and is a-OK, look out! They may look okay on the outside, but I can only imagine how they are behind closed doors.

[@user-ls5so2ug2g]

@Michael Davis 😂😂😂 Yeah, we know😂It was the dark forces of voodoo and/or that illuminate😂OMG! I get so tired of people who don't have ish, making themselves believe that the only way others have anything is bc they made a deal w/t 😈. All to justify why they don't have ish and others have so much.😂God forbid they worked hard to get it. 😂Oh no. They made a deal w/t 😈. How ignorant.😂

[@timmy841212]

Him being on drugs makes sense considering many Vietnam veterans were addicts.

[@arranarei]

I met Zapp & Roger band when they use to do the Old School blues festival in Harvest, AL. I actually sang for Shirley Murdock one time and she said I made it sound “different” 😂😂. Oh and Big Robb too! But I always heard Larry was jealous.

[@Jaheartsjonas]

@praise Yah! praise Yah! this dude is spamming this comment for some reason, pay no mind to him

[@jordashi]

@praise Yah! praise Yah! flag and dislike his comments so KZbin can remove them.

[@tiffanyjohnson8119]

The Unsung done on Roger showed how divided the family became afterward this situation ended badly.

[@ThriftedDadHat]

“Musty, crusted up record label” got me weak!!! 😂

[@productamadeus8745]

She do be coming up with funny spiffs!

[@4DIMAGESS]

"I'm not a rapper" honey, we knoooooowwww. Cause what was that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lolarose2423]

I listen to “Computer Love” regularly…love that song!!! Amazing video!!!

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 hush 🤐 🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

I'm with you 💯

[@belizegal29]

Lovvvvve that song.💜🙏🏾

[@Oottee207]

I was shocked to find out Roger was killed by his own brother...it so sad. The family was a talented bunch under the guidence of Roger. I used to go to clubs and listen to them play. Roger is continuing to influence music today. He had his head on straight he had a vision and dream...so sad 😭

[@tammygouletschrader8785]

I found out years ago that he was killed by his brother and was sad. Loved his solo album

[@jeromeosills6522]

Everybody blaming Larry. Larry was hurt by his actions enough to take his own life...that means alot.

[@antwanwilson7228]

@@jeromeosills6522 Or he didn't want to face what he done.

[@fredkelley]

Yeah that still is a heavy subject. You dont even have to be in there family to feel how painful it is. Man I hope they are able to resolve and come back together as a family. Time heals things

[@countzacula0121]

Roger was the front man for Zapp, wrote/produced all of the songs, played almost every instrument on all of the tracks. Along with all four of his solo releases The Many Facets of Roger, The Saga Continues, Unlimited and Bridging The Gap.

[@bonnietaylor-williams5112]

Yes Stevie Wonder is the first artist that was approached with the pitch “This device will change the life of your music Stevie, it’s going to make you a lot of money”. More Bounce To The Ounce is still a Jam, I still listen to it! Roger made listeners really take note of the the talking box. Honestly, we real, true music lovers and fans noticed it when Stevie used it. In all fairness we always expected genius from Stevie… It was a given, it was Stevie Wonder. Roger pumped it up when he did the entire song with the talking box, layering it with that electrified super FUNK! Great video Ashley!

[@johnburrows5444]

Sly and the Family Stone did it before all of them. The song" Don't Call Me N#gger Whitey!!" And " Sex Machine" in the late 60s and the early 70s

[@themagicians1122]

Y'all also FORGOT THEM EUROPEANS KRAFTWERK MADE ALL THEIR SONGS WITH A TALKBOX TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS!! * NOTE I AM FROM THE GEM CITY OF DAYTON OHIO THE HOME OF THE FUNK ROGER AND ZAPP WELL THE GROUP ZAPP STILL DOES TOURS THERE TOUR BUSES ARE IN A GARAGE ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM ME AND TRUST ME THEM TROUTMAN BROTHERS STILL GET IN IN TO THIS DAY, I SEE THEM BUSES MOVE IN AND OUT ALLLLLLL THE TIME, ITS NEVER SITTING STILL JUST PARKED

[@themagicians1122]

No one. WORKED THE TALKBOX " THE WAY ROGER DID HE CHANGED PART OF THE R& B FUNK ERA FOR SURE

[@SJanez91]

#SaySoSquad For many years I never knew Roger Troutman was dead until I watched their Unsung episode a few years ago. I just hate the fact that their family chose to bury them together and gave them a sharing headstone. I can't imagine how Roger's children feel to know that their father is buried with his killer, their uncle. This was a really sad tragedy.

[@MauvaisetBourgeoise]

I agree with you! I saw that episode years ago and you can tell their is still division between Roger's kids and Larry's kids; Larry's kids were disrespectful because they expected Roger's kids to mourn for Larry, even though he murdered their father. Larry's kids were crying that they lost their father too.

[@nigerjenkins6372]

Oh wow

[@timmy841212]

Yeah that was so weird. I get that there are those in the family that sympathize with the both of them but that was... too much. I guess it was their way of coping?

[@gabriellew.1164]

Yes, but they had so much history besides that one moment. The killer also killed himself, what a moment of torture! And as for the parents, they love both their children to the end, no matter what. Of course they would bury them together.

[@Tornado1994]

If only you knew about his SON, Roger Jr who co founded Mint Condition. or his Granddaughter.

[@stickshiftdriver1832]

Larry was a Vietnam vet who suffered from PTSD. I doubt that Sug Knight would had been able to simply grab Larry by the collar without a fight or being hurt himself

[@sophienunley4766]

I agree

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

Idk...Suge is a BIG, ex-football player.

[@stickshiftdriver1832]

@@IJustCant-jj2rv a trained soldier especially a Marine could take down a big football player twice his size. They are trained to fight and kill

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

@@stickshiftdriver1832 Oh,....okay. I believe ya!

[@timmy841212]

I agree. That story sounds weird.

[@sjackso256]

This was so tragic, and I'm sure it caused some hard feelings between their children

[@christyglamr2951]

Yassss I was so ready for this one. Ashley Says So never disappoints hunty. The SCANDAL CHILE. THE SCANDAL. THE BEST STORYTELLER ON KZbin HANDS DOWN 💜💜💯💯.

[@RowZeeGee]

💯0% accurate 😂😂😂..

[@foxyboop4164]

Absolutely 💯

[@Nichiel]

Right!

[@SweetJustice]

Families that are blessed with extraordinary gifts seem to also carry extraordinary burdens.

[@GregoryW_NC71]

This is definitely one of my top 3 favorite KZbin channels. I wait for these videos!!

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 quiet Cory

[@AnovaLisaDragonfly]

I'm with you, Gregory. This is one of the very few channels where I actually wait and look for the videos to come. :-) And I love when she drops them on Fridays 'cause I know I'll be chillin' and watching that same night.

[@GregoryW_NC71]

@@AnovaLisaDragonfly right lol. Definitely helps with my boredom

[@GregoryW_NC71]

@@jordashi it's funny when somebody else comments and "knows more" than the one that made the video. Especially when they can't spell Berry Gordy's name right, but gonna say she don't know what she talkin about

[@ivyteacherwilson]

We loved Roger Troutman & Zapp growing up! My uncles would play their albums all the time..they thought Roger's voicebox was genius!😄 When Tupac released 'California Love' and we heard Roger Troutman, chileeeee, it was instant love!! I was pumped Roger was working with someone as cool as Tupac! I remember when the news broke about his murder--just awful. Another great job Ashley!🙂💯❤

[@michaelaccardofrontczak]

11:15 The first person who ever used a Talkbox is a steel guitar player "Pete Drake" after that it was Peter Frampton, Stevie Wonder, Roger Troutman and Teddy Riley who all used the Talkbox.

[@timmy841212]

Todd Rundgren and Sly Stone also used it too.

[@donnastanley8536]

Wow Ashley reliving that day again. That anoucment on the radio that day was unbelievable i was in shock!!! And the black community was too. But thank you for the story Ashley it cleared up alot of details. I hope God heal the family on both sides. Happy Thanksgiving !!

[@jasminepearson1496]

When I tell you I was just thinking about when ashley was going to drop a new video 😍. Yasssss Ashley thank you girl 🥰🥰

[@ACaliluvJones]

Me too chile (in my Ashley says so voice)!!!

[@yonie8094]

Yessss i be rewatching like 👍🏾 pleaseeee hurry up!! Lol

[@jasminepearson1496]

@@yonie8094 yasss hunny. Take your time but hurry up

[@GAPEACHSESSION]

I know. I was thinking about her too

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 😁 yay!!! Guess what time it is??? Flag time 🚩🚩🚩

[@bdr5518]

Ashley I’m addicted to your channel keep them coming ☕️

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 dude seriously like why are you spamming this? Chill out, honestly I’m just going to flag every last one of these.

[@foxyboop4164]

@@coryrogers846 Ex-lax is your friend, sir

[@stevenporter1170]

Ashley this was a very sad story because Roger Troutman had just been reintroduce to a younger audience because Rap music was just blowing up and with Rapper's sampling Roger's music the Rapper's was reintroduced to the voicebox . I do believe that Roger Troutman should have retired Larry from Troutman Enterprises because the business was not going to survive. And Roger Troutman should have brought them all together and told them that he was considering going solo as an artist.

[@user-ls5so2ug2g]

For this to have happened, I don't think no matter how he did it, things would have still ended badly. No one just wakes up one day and decides on a whim to off his brother and then himself. (smh)

[@jeromeosills6522]

Roger was selfish and arrogant...and it's sad what happened next.

[@breannaqueen.593]

I am so glad you told us about him it has been a long time since I have heard about him and I love to hear you talk

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 you will be stopped

[@ashnicole9354]

Now do Charlie Wilson!!!!!! Keep this one going!

[@TheBigmont1975]

I'm about listen to Zapp and Roger's greatest hits right now!

[@MarkHallOfFame]

I definitely heard that Suge Knight and Larry Troutman story!!!😂😂😂 one of the producers from Death Row told that story. There’s literally a Suge Knight story for everything.🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@AndreaClinton]

When you have a company, the money goes to the company 1st. So Larry couldn't be too wrong. How do you steal money when its not coming in anymore? Money kills relationships.

[@amircollins8065]

You should do Madame Cj Walker. She’s not Hollywood but she’s definetely a huge apart of media and The Black Mecca. You would literally kill it

[@quang6864]

Facts

[@nikotademetra1016]

Yes!!!

[@paxtongay5703]

Ashley, you left out some info Baby. Roger did indeed release another solo album between ZAPP 3&4,It was the solo album The SAGA Continues, ZAPP III was a Banger,but IV that's when the group was starting to go cold until 1987 when Roger came out the album Unlimited with the hit single I Wanna Be Your Man, a Platinum Banger.

[@AquariusSoul]

What a talent! So sad how everything unfolded in the end. I hope his family is at peace they have endured a few tragedies.

[@ubermenschen3636]

12 children without a father.

[@Regina.Michelle]

Money can cause so many problems. This was heartbreaking between brothers. Larry was very disturbed

[@xowhitox]

9:20 …the kitty litter💁🏾‍♀️ MOVING ON!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣♥️

[@sandramorris420]

Zap and Roger were awesome musicians, “ A Class Act.” Ashley, Amazing Commentary as usual !!!

[@shaydeebee]

Someone who is high end, in the industry, told me, Larry was jealous of Roger, because, when they went broke, there were a lot of stars, that would put money together for Roger, for projects, and he got big money, and didn't have to share it with Larry. Larry felt Roger was leaving the family business hanging. He wanted to touch some of every penny, that Roger made, or had given to him. The industry was taking care of Roger, because Larry was spending all of the money, but Roger was the star. 🤞🏾😬

[@leonatorres624]

“Go home Roger” … I caught that sister sister reference 😆…

[@AnovaLisaDragonfly]

More Bounce To The Ounce and Computer Love... Chicago rollerskating music back in the day!

[@Mr.Miami305dadecounty]

He Did Hit That Note at The end of "California Luv"💯💯

[@queenkaili3243]

This one was pretty low in “scandal” but definitely still a sad story.

[@hiphopjewels]

It’s high on scandal actually, the womanizing, the alleged breach of contract, people being assaulted over music samples, sibling rivalry leading in death, and a family torn apart as the result. How much worse can it get?

[@audracollins3634]

I didn’t know Peter Frampton used the “talk box” … love you Ash, always happy to see you, and 💙 your platform… keep bringing it sis 🥰

[@gwendolynbien-aime1536]

Yep. Peter Frampton . The album was “Frampton Comes Alive” and the song was “Do You Feel (Like I Do)?”

[@Godisgreat-b4e]

@Mr. No Weapon (The Prince Of The Talkbox) And Kanye ain’t even sometimes 😂😎❤️💯

[@garytaylor8344]

So did Joe Walsh who also used the talk box.

[@isiskittyify]

@@gwendolynbien-aime1536 YES, that album was HUGE. It is a great album, and it blew my mind when it came out. Peter Frampton , legend. Roger Troutman, brilliant artist.

[@KoreaMojo]

Herbie Hancock used it before him in '78. He's the one that I first heard from his songs "I thought it was you", "sunlight", and "come running to me". His stuff was a year before Roger's release. It's interesting that Stevie did in 1972 and Peter in 1974.

[@AndreaClinton]

And Herbie was still using it when Roger was out.

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

Yep Stevie did it first but The Roger took it to another level made it popular...

[@KoreaMojo]

@Mr. No Weapon (The Prince Of The Talkbox) That's why I never commented on her saying that. Popular music and good music aren't synonymous. Even in good music there are levels. So what people know from ubiquity might be robbing them.

[@KoreaMojo]

@@steviecritiquenewby7874 He made it popular, but Zapps music is not as complex on any measures. The rhythms, the melodies, the instrumentation, the movement... so when you say another level... maybe we're thinking different directions.

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

@@KoreaMojo A lot of rappers definitely in the mid 90s used the TalkBox and collaborated with Roger Troutman... Teddy Riley used it to as a producer in the 90s definitely New Jack swing era also

[@KDUncensored]

I remember watching the Unsung version of this story. It was a really sad turn out! Let me tune in cause I know you’re gonna make me. Laugh 😂 Love you Auntie 🖤

[@duddydud]

Ashley thank you for giving both sides that is very admirable.

[@thettarobinson5009]

Ashley you make me feel like I’m your auntie that you laugh & gossip with. Gurl yo husband is a handsome bearded man & ur a cute couple. I always look forward to you talking to us. Thanks for the inside scoop on Roger! U always dig deep.

[@debraburrows8435]

The Sylvers. Just found out Jody Watley's daughter is by Leon Sylvers. Leon Sylvers married Nidra Beard from the group Dynasty. He wrote songs and played bass for both Shalamar at and Dynasty. Lots of tea going on at Solar records. Leon Sylvers was that dude in the 1980's

[@ccfunk1]

Roger as he got older wanted to do things on his own from what i heard. earlier the rap group EPMD used the Zapp song "more bounce to the ounce" on they record "you gots to chill". later Roger worked with Tupac on the song california love.Larry had some business difficulties and was maybe looking for help with it or whatever.

[@ladarionaustin2179]

I remember when they announced Rogers Death as a Kid my father had to pull over and collect himself So sad Rest In Peace 🙏🏾

[@kishahooks8947]

Awesome job Ashley!! This was well worth the wait. Continue to take your breaks honey your self care produces excellent content for us!!🙌🏽

[@opulence_prime]

Whew! Ashley you did it again. This was a good one. I went to school w/a kid who said Roger was his Dad. I heard he was a rolling stone. I didn’t know his brother killed him though. I don’t think this was sibling rivalry either. They were both on extreme ends of the spectrum and sadly things just came to a head.

[@tammysummers1092]

Loved Roger! He was so talented and my fav song was "I wanna be your man", among others. I used to have his album Bucket of Blood. RIP Roger🙏

[@yonie8094]

🗣🗣🗣MUSTY CRUSTED UP RECORD LABEL!!! I can’t! 😂😂😭😭

[@Creole164]

Zapp was on the lineup for the homecoming concert in 2004 of my Freshman year at Southern U. I remember us being like, “who is that?” Then Computer Love started! The whole mini dome went crazy! Fun! 💙💛💙💛

[@williebarrett7198]

Great video. I believe the Suge Knight rumor. He closed a lot of business deals bullying people.

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

Which is why he's still locked up😒

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

Didn't he have Vanilla Ice dangling outside a hotel balcony by his ankles?

[@williebarrett7198]

@@IJustCant-jj2rv, Yes, That is how Suge got the songwriter royalties for the original songwriter for Ice Ice Baby.

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

@@williebarrett7198 Suge is simply using Mafia tactics. That's the ugly (but very true) side of the business.

[@kayshawnsimmons6822]

@@IJustCant-jj2rv yup

[@angiemcgee2156]

Seen him in person back in the 80s or 90s it was great performance. That man was crazy too pulling his pants down on stage 🤪

[@e-maginne]

I’m sitting in the car in the parking lot at Walmart waiting for my sister to finish shopping. I’m sure glad to see this video 🙌🏽

[@PeppyLuv]

What’s even sadder…Roger and Larry share the same cemetery plot & headstone…

[@m.woodsrobinson9244]

😱😥😥😥

[@AmbersDashcamDiaries]

It always makes me shake my head when the family does that. I usually see it when a married couple has a murder suicide and they bury them together with shared headstone 🪦 and marriage date etc. it seems so off to me.

[@rosajohnson5212]

Maybe, their mother looked at it from a mother's point of view. You two need to get past this and make up. You're brothers and nothing should come between you. At the end of the day, forgiveness is key.

[@shamonevictory]

@@rosajohnson5212 Comfort for the mother yes...they are gone and forgiveness didn't happen.

[@rosajohnson5212]

@@shamonevictory , since they didn't die immediately, they may have forgiven. I'm inclined to believe that Roger understood why Larry did it and he knew that Larry's mind was already bad. I'm from a large family and I have seen my siblings forgive one another right after an argument. I'm the only one that took longer to let things go. That's probably because I am the baby, nine years behind the youngest prior to me. I saw them let go what to me was serious. That's the way my mother raised us. It is sad that the children are at odds.

[@shunniepoo3110]

Wheww chile, I almost broke a finger nail clicking on this video .. thank you girl !!! 😆❤️💯

[@Danyelb12]

Omgoodness Ashley’s back !!!! I’m ready for this!!!!

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 psst...🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@renerevere]

I’m from Dayton.. it shocked the entire city💯

[@alexaashley9066]

Any knowledge on what he was like in 🛏️

[@konstanceclark276]

I’m weak😂😂😂🤣love your animated self introducing rap

[@redbone8844]

Omg grabs AirPods and tune in while still on the clock at work 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Ashley I love your storytelling honey!!!

[@suzycarmichael933]

Agreed, she is very entertaining!!!!!!!!! I enjoy listening to her stories .

[@foxyboop4164]

Ain't she the best??? I remember listening to her awhile ago and got hooked! Lol

[@redbone8844]

@@suzycarmichael933 yes she is it’s like she’s right there in the room with you she brings so much life to the stories it’s almost like you’re there!

[@redbone8844]

@@foxyboop4164 me too I came across her looking up old Hollywood tale’s and been hooked every since!!! I can listen to Ashley storytelling all day lol!

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Ok messy boots 👢🥾...don't so me sir ! Lol, Ashley is so entertaining 😃

[@TheNatashaNicole]

I live on the outskirts of Dayton and I had a cab driver tell me he drove Roger around to all types of women's houses. Even married women. The driver said maybe that's what got him killed.

[@oholm09]

Its long time ago

[@RowZeeGee]

I love for you to say “ YOU’RE DOING TOO MUCH SIR!” 😂😂😂❤️💪🏼😇🙏🏼..I have a list of YOUR quotes you should turn into T-shirt’s just love this channel!! 🤗🤗…

[@niasiafields5219]

Ashley, Roger was still alive when he got to the hospital, but he died during surgery...so sad😢😢😢

[@lovemelawanzaj]

Whew Chile! This is right on time! I love your videos👏🏾👏🏾 you are amazing!

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 today’s special is a lovely meal the French likes to call “🚩🚩🚩” enjoy spammer .

[@alexiagoko9384]

I really love your channel!! You are amazing telling all the stories and scandals!! Lots of love and blessings from London! ❤️❤️

[@jordashi]

@@coryrogers846 hey Cory? 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@LeolaGlamour]

12 child support payments. Lord even at 1000 each it’s 12000 a MONTH.

[@RubiPearl560]

My mama told me stories of him wanting her. It was hilarious 😆

[@yndiaeverywhere]

I was just jamming Roger Troutman & Johnny Gill Your Body. Thinking how amazing his music had been

[@KariTheBarb]

But in my opinion I think Larry killed Roger over Jealousy and greed

[@stephanie3506]

Nah, Larry wasn't really like that but he was trying to live an old dream and stuck in the past, he couldn't move on from the way they had done things in the past......he was just very depressed and felt abandoned.

[@KariTheBarb]

@@stephanie3506 hmmmm

[@iamprettyblackcutiepie5979]

He did I agree 👌🏿Sad but true 😭

[@stephanie3506]

@@KariTheBarb My spirit just tells me the way things went down he wasn't greedy or jealous cause it would have come out before then. The way he was trying to help everybody in the city proves he wasn't selfish. He just wasn't a smart business man and he got bitter and felt used and abandoned in the end. Plus add mental effects of the war.....It's just sad all the way around! Do you know any more that may add some different understanding?

[@vincentharris2259]

@@stephanie3506 I didn't know that his brother Larry went to Vietnam You put that plus the craziness of the industry together and mix money and fame in and you have a dangerous combustion.

[@viodo5895]

I love how you tell these stories Ash. You don't present anything as the truth you ain't talking about receipts you are a pure gossip channel and for some reason I respect that. I like that more than someone trying to prove facts. You just lay all of your gossip down and say this is what's out there. I respect that.