Onions and Tomatoes Put to the Test for Osteoporosis

[@broddr]

I’m glad I love salsa: onions, garlic, and tomatoes all in one tasty bone preserving mix. In addition to traditional uses, I sometimes use salsa as an oil free salad dressing.

[@liviacotto7647]

Awesome!!! Salsa is the answer!!!!

[@jimmienoble7914]

Homemade salsa?

[@TheDulcifer]

@@jimmienoble7914 Homemade Salsa: Salsa Mexicana (Pico de gallo) Tomatoes, Large White Onion Large Bunch of Cilantro Jalapeno peppers Lemon juice, Lime Juice Finely chopped up (not pureed) for "pico de gallo" Season salt Garlic Pepper Avocado oil Any other Mexican spices to taste. Sometimes I will puree some of the Cilantro if I want the salsa to be more wet. I never measure, but make it to taste. When I taste it, I think I am in Mexico at the Bazaar Sabado.

[@Albopepper]

5:22 I can't believe you omitted the data from Figure 2, ignoring something useful, that the study actually showed. It clearly reports: "C-terminal telopeptide of type I collagen (CTX) decreased significantly in the women with increased bone loss (osteopenia) in group (B) compared to the other two groups of women (A, C) with osteopenia." "The main finding of our study was a decrease in bone turnover markers in Group B osteopenic women consuming the Scarborough Fair dietary mix of vegetables/herbs and fruit. Resorptive activity (CTX) in osteopenic women and formation activity (P1NP) decreased in all women in this group, reflecting lowered bone turnover. The decrease in P1NP was considered biologically significant. The decrease in CTX in Group B women with osteopenia differed significantly from intervention Group A women with osteopenia" This is messed up! Where do you get off saying "the specially concocted diet of bone-preserving produce did no significantly better than the diet packed with non-bone preserving produce, or a diet with just six servings of fruits and veggies a day"? 😡 If there was a significant difference for subjects with osteopenia, then don't you think that's something that we deserve to know???

[@paulmaxwell8851]

My wife and I grow lots of onions and garlic, so of course eat lots of them. We like onions raw in salads, but do cook them sometimes. I'm in my sixties, my wife in her seventies, and neither of us take pharmaceutical drugs of any kind, not even over-the-counter ones. Of course, we combine our healthy diet with a fair bit of physical exercise (we have a small farm) and eat meat only once in a rare while.

[@deepakhiranandani6488]

Fascinating especially the ending. Thanks.

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

Well at least unions also add flavour and store well! Thanks for the info doc!

[@g.e.boroush5176]

I read through the comments and I agree. A C- to a D- for clarity. When you leave your audience scratching their heads trying to figure out what you are trying to communicate, you've failed in your mission. :-( I, too, have no idea what Greger is trying to say. :-(

[@urban9361]

Thank you 😀👍🏻. Great information as always, delivered with a pinch of humour (blended not stirred please) 😁🙏

[@AndrewPawley11]

I love this channel!

[@misterx3188]

Same

[@nazokashii]

Fascinating! Thank you for sharing

[@Scottlp2]

Almonds have been mentioned here previously.

[@trevorregay9283]

Wait........so, essentially these help but no better than just eating any form of fruits and veggies??? Is that the takeaway from this or am I mistaken. It still seems like tomatoes and onions do have a beneficial effect against osteoporosis more so than others........or did I just get gaslit by all these studies that he preluded before the final Australian study???

[@GiusyAloe]

Al final una dieta plant-based es la verdadera clave para el osteoporosis.. entendiste bien 👍

[@jaimeayala4231]

This is my interpretation of the data; in order to decrease your risk of bone fractures if you eat from 6 to 9 or more servings of fruits & vegetables, you don't need to look for specific plants. However, if you eat less than 6 servings then you need to focus on those vegetables that are more helpful like alliums (onion, garlic), cruciferous (arugula, broccoli), tomatoes, prunes and some herbs (rosemary, sage, thyme, parsley and others). Of course, in the biological sciences there's always something better (or wrong) to be found later.

[@JudiintheKitchen]

@@jaimeayala4231 Well said!

[@oskariKN25]

The takeaway from this is that, while tomatoes and onions might be more helpful than other common vegetables, you should not favour them specifically just for hyper focusing on bone health. Vegetables are good for your bones either way so eating all kinds is for the best benefit and already known plants to have powerful beneficial health effects like garlic and cruciferous vegetables plus leafy greens like kale should be eaten for the safe assumption of giving the biggest benefit. They also didn't control the overall diet in the onion study so it could be that they benefit from the extra plant compounds in somewhat animal product filled diet. a whole food plant based eater might not see any special benefit from onions (not that you should not eat them).

[@thesushistudios867]

I’m confused too

[@peaceloving5298]

Cooked or raw onions?

[@laurieparis2203]

What I remember Dr Greger saying about onions is to chop them no less than 20 minutes before either cooking or eating bc the cutting causes a beneficial compound, Allicin, to form. Now Im going to listen to the rest of the video to see if this is mentioned, or if it's been proven false since this was last stated several years ago

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, @peaceloving5298! The video does not specify whether the onions were raw or cooked, and I do not have access to the full-text article cited in it. I have requested a copy, and will try to get a better answer for you. Meanwhile, in this article about benefits of onions and garlic for platelet activation, raw onions were more effective: nutritionfacts.org/video/inhibiting-platelet-activation-with-garlic-and-onions/ That doesn't necessarily mean they are better for osteoporosis, though, because the benefits seem to be from different compounds in those plants, but we don't really know for sure. Crushing or mincing the garlic 10 minutes before cooking may give you the best of both worlds, at least for platelet activation. Quercetin does not seem to be diminished by cooking, and may support bone health. I think the best bet is to eat both raw and cooked onions and garlic, and to let them sit for 10 minutes between cutting and cooking. I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS®, LDN, MPH, CHES®, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@peaceloving5298]

Thank you Christine for your detailed response to my question. I really appreciate it. Definitely your answer given me a lot of other information that I didn’t know. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@botzer8817]

​@@laurieparis2203Garlics*

[@jgreen9361]

Studies have shown that tomatoes should be eaten both raw and cooked to get the full list of health benefits. Therefore it wouldn’t be surprising to discover that eating onions both cooked and raw in salads have a combination of health benefits too.

[@Misanthrop78]

So are Shallots good too ?

[@Julottt]

Thats onions.

[@ShazWag]

I'd have thought so, since they're from the onion family

[@lous3772]

PLEEEEEEEZE: IDEA FOR FUTURE EPISODE. Would you present an episode on the pseudoscience of nutrition! I am especially interested in the concept of Metabolic Typing (Walcott and Fahey)that is promoted by many nutritionists. I saw a nutritionist who gave me an obviously poorly constructed and apparently unvalidated written self report assessment, and based on that, concluded that I was a Mixed Oxidizer and am supposed to eat a certain way. I scoured the peer reviewed published literature and the only thing I could find was an article debunking it. A lot of “nutritionists” are promoting this on their on-line web pages and KZbin channels. They sound smart, because they’re using scientific words, but reading/listening with a critical eye, it sounds like a bunch of bull, and not one provided legitimate sources. I absolutely believe that there is a wide diversity of metabolic processing, but the specificity of recommendations doesn’t seem to have a basis. Maybe it’s good stuff. But if not, these types of claims create so much confusion in a field that’ they need to be called out. It would be a valuable public service to focus on this topic of pseudoscience in nutrition in an episode or two.

[@ecofriend93]

There are some religious groups who avoid onions and garlic. I wonder if this means they are more prone to developing osteoporosis?

[@kungfutzu3779]

perhaps they can do some tests on asafoetida

[@showkatkhan8461]

hi does eating red raisin/kissmiss same as eating red grapes? thank you.

[@MichaelToub]

Great Video!

[@funth0m]

👍

[@arlene1212]

What about dates?

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, @arlene1212! We have several videos about dates, but I don't see any that are specifically about dates and osteoporosis. You can find everything on our site related to dates here: nutritionfacts.org/topics/dates/ Everything related to osteoporosis may be found here: nutritionfacts.org/topics/osteoporosis/ I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS®, LDN, MPH, CHES®, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@arlene1212]

@@NutritionFactsOrg Thank you!

[@ShazWag]

Whilst I appreciate these study evaluations, the conclusion is rarely clear from these videos (as can often be seen in the comments). My interpretation with this one is that veggies generally are good for your health overall, and tomatoes and mushrooms in particular were shown to improve bone health. Not sure if I got that right 🤔

[@pmw3839]

So, the take away is: onions and tomatoes do not help more than any other plants. Am I right?

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, @pmw3839! Not exactly. I would say the take away is that we have good data about allium vegetables and tomatoes, so they have demonstrated benefits for bone health. Many other plant-derived foods also seem to support bone health, but we don't have data of the same quality for many of them. An overall dietary pattern that is high in fruits and vegetables seems to be the best bet. I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS®, LDN, MPH, CHES®, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@pmw3839]

@@NutritionFactsOrg Yes it does. Thank you very much. And thank you for all the great work you do.

[@kati-ana]

I eat 1/2 onion or a full shallot a day, mostly raw, but sauté too and baked. I love onions but not so much tomatoes.

[@AstonAcademia]

Tomatoes ftw. Cruciferous vegetables vs. Soy products for prostate cancer. Turmeric vs. Ginger for inflammation. Legumes vs. Nuts and Seeds for heart health. Berries vs. Leafy greens for cognitive decline. High-fiber foods (beans, whole grains) vs. Fermented foods (tempeh, kimchi) for gut health.

[@fernando749845]

The name "GREGER" means "WATCHFUL" 😍😍💪💪

[@franzvega5281]

Dear Dr. Greger: I would like to know what your scientific opinion is on this whole concept about glucose and diet that Jessie from GlucoseGodness is promoting? Thanks

[@misterx3188]

1:38 - Oats... wtf?

[@robertaxelrod6303]

The every single day for so many months design of studies for foods does not make sense. In real life, people do not dose themselves with spinach the way they might with penicillin. Are there food studies where people consume something three times a week or twice a week? That might be more realistic, both because of human behavior and because accommodative mechanisms for day to day variations might either increase or decrease the effectiveness of certain foods as health vectors. And the benefits or disadvantages of absolute daily consistency might vary from food to food, both for good and bad. I am willing to be a subject for the ice cream experiment! But seriously, it does seem that food taken as medicine doses is unrealistic both from a behavioral and a bio-systems adaptation point of view.

[@AstonAcademia]

1. Hot Dogs vs. Bacon: Nitrate Nightmares & Heart Disease Hell! These "breakfast delights" are artery-cloggers in disguise. Hot dogs are nitrate-laced mystery meat, while bacon's saturated fat and sodium are a recipe for high cholesterol. Skip these processed perils for a plant-based breakfast that fuels, not clogs! 2. Red Meat vs. Processed Meats: Carcinogen Circus & Colorectal Cancer Calamity! Red meat might be linked to colon cancer, but processed meats are the carcinogen champs. The WHO classifies them (hot dogs, bacon, hello?) as a major cancer risk due to the unholy trinity of red meat, nitrates, and cell-damaging processing methods. 3. Whole Milk vs. Ice Cream: Growth Hormone Goo & Weight Gain Woes! Cow's milk is basically growth goo for baby cows. While safe for them, these hormones may not be ideal for us. Ice cream takes the "healthy" out of dairy altogether - a sugar-laden, fat-bomb nightmare with unwanted growth hormones. 4. Fried Chicken vs. Barbecued Ribs: HCA Havoc & Potential DNA Damage! High-heat cooking creates HCAs and PAHs, linked to DNA damage and cancer. Fried chicken, with its crispy breading, is a champion of these harmful compounds. Barbecued ribs aren't much better. Ditch the carcinogenic char for plant-based alternatives that sizzle with flavor, not DNA damage. 5. Raw Oysters vs. Smoked Salmon: Bacterial Bonanza & Foodborne Frenzy! Raw and mishandled fish are a recipe for disaster. Raw oysters are notorious for bacteria, while smoked salmon is a gamble if not sourced responsibly. Foodborne illness can lead to dehydration, kidney problems, and worse. Positive stuff: DNA Damage Fighters: Berries (blueberries, raspberries, strawberries) are packed with antioxidants that help combat free radical damage. Apoptosis Activators: Cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, and kale contain compounds that may promote the death of unhealthy cells. Endothelial All-Stars: Leafy greens (spinach, kale) and beetroot are rich in nitrates, which convert to nitric oxide in the body, promoting healthy blood flow. Oxidative Stress Slayers: Tomatoes, oranges, and other fruits rich in vitamin C are potent antioxidants that combat oxidative stress. Blood Pressure Buddies: Potassium-rich foods like bananas, potatoes, and lentils can help regulate healthy blood pressure. While a plant-based diet offers a wealth of health benefits, it's important to be mindful of potential pitfalls within this way of eating. Here are some things to consider: Acrylamide Formation: High-heat cooking of starchy foods like french fries and potato chips can create acrylamide, a compound with potential health concerns. Consider healthier cooking methods like baking or air-frying. Saturated Fat in Vegan Cheese: Some commercially available vegan cheeses are high in saturated fat, often from coconut oil. Making your own vegan cheese with ingredients like nutritional yeast, nuts, and avocados offers a healthier and more customizable option. Sodium in Condiments: While some condiments like soy sauce and pickles can add delicious flavor, they can also be high in sodium. Look for low-sodium options or use them sparingly.

[@LAKSHMIANGELES]

GREAT! "JUST STUFF YOUR FACE WITH FRUITS AND VEGGIES"😋😊

[@alejandroruiz7473]

Do you have any information on Alzheimer's?

[@DashingPartyCrasher]

His website and KZbin channel have lots of info about Alzheimer's. Do some searches there, and you'll find it.

[@DashingPartyCrasher]

For more Alzheimer's diet related info, I also recommend Dr. David Perlmutter and Thomas Delauer, both on KZbin.

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, @alejandroruiz7473! Yes, we do have information about Alzheimer's disease, and you can find it here: nutritionfacts.org/topics/alzheimers-disease/ I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS®, LDN, MPH, CHES®, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@ShazWag]

Fruit and vegetables containing high levels of _anthocyanins_ (e.g. blackberries, blueberries, purple sweet potatoes) and good quality sleep have been found in many studies to help protect against Alzheimer's disease, since these things help dissolve the brain plaque known to contribute to memory neurodegeneration. 🫐

[@DashingPartyCrasher]

@@ShazWag Yes, great tips for improving brain function! I'd like to add that amyloid plaques have not been proven to cause Alz, which is why recent plaque-clearing drugs have been mostly an expensive disappointment. While some people with Alz have lots of plaques and tangles, others do not. And vice versa. So the jury is still out if they are a symptom, or one of the causes.

[@firemipspy1198]

Have there ever been any studies asking as to whether deoderant is the root cause of breast cancer. I realize that the western diet makes it worse. However, I often wonder if it is being caused by our own actions to reduce the smells associated with the bodies natural process to expell toxins from the lymphatic system. One way to start an initial test to the hypothesis would be to compare breast cancer rates in women who shave vs those who don't (do women shave in France?) which should correlate to the reason why women get it more then men.

[@yt-qg8ui]

deoderant is not so harmful, but antiperspirant is.

[@YD-uq5fi]

Turkey? I don't see an unusual amount of onions in Turkish cuisine. The country with a cuisine that is all onions all the time is India.

[@StrangerDanger491]

India also has 15x the population of Turkey and 5x the land, and cuisine in India varies from region to region. There are likely regions of India that consume more onions per person than all of Turkey, but nationwide are balanced out by the regions that don't.

[@siddiqui49]

Apparently, this study is biased. The majority of Indians consume onions in almost every dish. Yet this study excludes India

[@FelisStella-HappyStar]

Indians don't eat much raw onions. Also, they often replace onion with asafoetida in cooked dishes.

[@siddiqui49]

@@FelisStella-HappyStar probably you have never had dal tadka. I frequently have raw onion and green chilli with my meals

[@laurar9748]

Oye! Just saw kiwi was best fruit for osteoporosis on another touted ‘science based’ you tube channel. Whom do we believe???? Or, maybe cover all bases and eat both?! 🥝

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, @laurar9748! As Dr. Greger said in the video, there are many foods that can support healthy bones. I don't think it is very helpful to find "the best" one, and load up on that. A better idea is an overall eating pattern that is healthier, with lots of fruits and vegetables, as mentioned in the video. You can find everything on our site related to osteoporosis here: nutritionfacts.org/topics/osteoporosis/ I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS®, LDN, MPH, CHES®, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@yt-qg8ui]

what channel is that from?