Orion Mid Range Bass XPM654MBF VS Deaf Bonce Arnold AP-M60A v2 car audio 6.5 Mid-Range Speakers Test

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Orion Only $108 for 2 speakers that's crazy deal Check the link on discretion

[@rennypersaud2923]

Yoo bro I need a pair Orion how can I get it

[@thehnic734]

I would love to get my hands on some Orion hcca midrange! I heard you play the neo's last week and they sound amazing! I wish I could post pictures of my build on here but I'm doing my biggest build I've ever attempted. Just to try to give you a idea I'm running 8 midrange, 4 midbass, 4 tweeters and 4 15 inch subwoofers. Subs and as amps are Orion, would love to run the whole system Orion.

[@mikeh9477]

LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels What is the best 8 inch mid bass for the money ? I curently have a hertz mpk pro 6.5 mid looking to upgrade to a 8 inch mid what do you recommend ?

[@arisk.ramosbautista1283]

Renny Persaud eBay o Amazon

[@mosestoledo9184]

Love the videos always make me laugh and very informative. Thanks bro!

[@xtrmbrazen6153]

Really like what you are doing here on the channel that no one else does. Thank you for that!

[@K9Drew1]

XTRM BRAZEN that is so true

[@thecman26]

Orion fan, and they never fail to amaze me!

[@gardenstateflatlandb]

Close battle here. I think it would come down to what sort of power output you plan on. It's definitely harder to find a full range amp that can push 400watts RMS per channel than it is to find one that can push 200. Also price increases as power goes up...for a quality amp that actually does rated power and does it cleanly. Personally, I'd run with the Deaf Bonce, cuz for 1, easier and cheaper to find an amp for them, and 2, cuz to me, they just sound better overall. Much more open and detailed sounding to my ears. I'm listening thru quality Audio Technica headphones thru a HiFi Quad Dac. I'd advise anyone installing either(or any speaker), to take your time and do a quality install. Sound deaden door panels around and behind the speaker. Secure them well...NOT with drywall screws like too many people are guilty of.(you know who you are.lol) Set your gains and crossovers properly and use a clean source signal. A speaker is only as good as it's install. I've seen $100 speakers outperform $1,000 speakers simply because of a better install on the cheaper speakers. I've always done my best to install as well as possible with whatever resources I have at the time and have traditionally had better sounding systems than many people who spent way more on gear, but did a poor install. Keep the good vids coming!

[@Davidszd-f1h]

Yeh deaf bounce is more cleaner but what’s your opinion on the bass from the Orion, if both speakers had tweeters Orion would be better aye?

[@pacomedina8698]

easy! Taramps

[@youareawesome420]

@@pacomedina8698 why do people buy good speakers only to cheap out on junk amps?

[@Autocreatorz]

DEAFBONCE gets louder with lower power that's why haveing a bigger coil to handle more power and heavier moving parts isent always good , that's why Arnold's you can do a direct swap in to a factory car

[@SIXvw]

not always. i had a issues in 2 of my cars because the magnet was so big it didn’t allow the window to roll down. simple fix though just made some 1.5 inch spacers.

[@lightbulb754]

The Orion have more bass that's why the Arnolds sound a bit higher but not that much clear. I would go with the Orion and add a good tweeter with it.

[@michaelsegarra2709]

That midbass on the orion is just killer bro i love it haha

[@jasonneal3933]

Your videos are sounding a lot better. Good job my friend. Thank you for all the time you put into these video. Saving people a lot of money on what not to buy 👍🏻

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Glad you like them!

[@kingwillie206]

It depends on what type of install you are planning. A lot of people think DB sounds better because it plays more frequencies, but if you have 8 tweeters and 8 mids you don’t need the DB’s. You can let the Orions kill the mids on high power with a dedicated amp.

[@chrismuniz8515]

I was surprised with Arnold very good for the price but when you put power too it.. it sounds greats but to the train ear... you hear it's a bit distorted so a regular set up would be great but the orion shines with power

[@keevincharles9389]

Watching from trinidad 🇹🇹 nice video

[@cryptojayq7963]

Keevin Charles them trini man love they loud music meanwhile in vincy even louder 😂

[@sgtgarcia488]

Thanks to u I purchased and installed the 8 in version of the Orion’s in my front doors let me tell they r stupid loud and clean not focal clean but definitely louder than them great job and thanks Semper fi

[@Shomare100]

I love mids that play strong down around 70 hertz teamed with subs. The sound is addicting

[@YohanathanD]

Addicting and painfully hard to get right

[@TheHyvoltage]

this gonna be good...... really want to hear the difference...... good job mike

[@antonyurchenko5951]

WOW HOW BIG IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM!!! ARNOLDS IS MUUUUUCH LOUDER!

[@charliefrancis6438]

I have a pair of Orion xtr 8 inch mid bass and a pair of Orion hcca mid bass and they sound the same , but the hcca handle about twice the power and are half the weight, the hcca have neodymium magnets and the xtr have much larger ferrite magnets, I think the hcca has a higher temperature glue on the voice coil, these are the loudest mids that I have ever owned and I have been into car audio since 1992,and have owned hundreds of speakers

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Yes bro hcca is a king so far

[@apostateabdool5972]

@@LIFEINSPEEDrecommended amp for the Orion's hcca sir?

[@jovannaleyva6820]

Orion sounds more natural deaf bounce sounds high pitch the Orion’s sounds like you would get more of a real sound I love when my Vocals sound more natural and has a little metal base in it versus being high-pitched like it has a whole bunch of trouble

[@jasonghering4389]

You smile alot more and seem alot more impressed with the Arnolds

[@MrHunterkill90]

Question Oridium o imán regular Hay diferencias de sonido o solo es tamaño de la bocina?

[@anthonybrown6143]

I cannot find any Orion competition mid's and midbass speakers anywhere bro!

[@LUTHANDOLUKHOZI]

But u just listened to one!!!

[@brandoyo9689]

Ya man the Orion’s sound overall better to me. The Deaf Bonce are so bright and I can’t hear any real mids from them. They sound like low tweeters or something. Very odd because they have that monster magnet, but no thump. I need to hear them in person I guess

[@joseulloa8135]

I'm old school so i rock went Orion all day i know the power they give

[@JaMarvelousjmar]

Loving what you provide to the community. Keep up the great work. Sad to say a consumer has more passion for a product then the producer, "what does that say about the companies" They do it for the money and you do it so we can invest wisely, THANK YOU. DJ Wraith sounds like DJ Rafe when spoken.

[@Autocreatorz]

if you want to test mid bass I would go with the W80 deafbonce, they are discontinued now aas a new one is coming mid year but the w80 was the mid bass driver for the last 3 years

[@TommyTrentonJr]

Orion is deff best for mid lows but I feel this compare video doesnt seem to be fair. Whats the freq response ranges on both speakers

[@djmikesea]

would be great if you told us what freq. your cutting as you go thru them

[@svenweller7818]

Orion is The best ever! I am very sad that these loudspeakers are no longer available! 😢😢 Greetings from Germany!👍👍

[@ICEMAN4471]

Great review bro... I've bought 4 orions I found them in stock 😎😎😎 so happy!! Running them with a pioneer Dsp!! Omg!

[@BallyramBettas]

Hello from trinidad 🇹🇹 the arnolds sound amazing!

[@emmanuelleso1640]

Best review ever Boss mike you've killed it!!!

[@GregoryStackingtons212]

Is it just me or how many sets of Orions were purchased due to Mike and this series of videos! Awesome work!

[@Deeepsound]

Let’s compare Arnolds ferrite ones against neo prv

[@pavelflores7555]

do they fit door speakers?

[@amanteapasionado6836]

I would pick the Orion over the DB. If you want a better sounding mids and highs you gotta go with Orion, yes DB gets louder cuz it plays higher but all you would have to do is add a tweeter to the Orion and boom, it's as loud as the DB. So if you put Orion with a tweeter in 1 door and the DB with a tweeter in the other door, which door is gonna sound better? The Orion because the frequency range is wider.

[@victorsantanpagay5811]

It's a great comparison, prefer the one on left since it's play a mid range and much clearer if our application is the mid range

[@kitisakmaneechay3838]

Orion speakers provide bold sound suitable for shows. While the competitor speakers.give a smooth sound.

[@SaltwaterBoogeyman]

Orion’s definitely sound all around better. A dsp will flatten some of the harshness from the Arnold’s. Which are the winner simply because you can actually by them still. Orion’s products have been slow to hit lately especially after good reviews

[@sansantos75]

I would install the Orion's in the front doors & the Arnold's on the back doors.. I think it'll be perfect with a subwoofer

[@basslife4evr772]

In my opinion the 2 ARNOLDS in the factory area because they gotta more high pitch to them so i think they will make the sound travel even in the factory area and the ORIONS some other part of the door and the same for the back doors if u have back doors and ur tweets and 6.9s do something else with those but i think they both sound pretty damn good for the price 💯👍🏼👍🏼 [✌🏽💪🏽🔈✌🏽💪🏽🔉✌🏽💪🏽🔊]

[@mikewhite4541]

Orions sound a ton more natural. Def bonce are way too high pitched. But the orions are nowhere to be found. If anyone knows where to buy please link it

[@FrankStPeter]

A lot of people are tuning their boxes much lower these days so there has to be something to catch between the low lows in the mid-range hence mid-bass

[@dusto18]

Love the vids bro!! Orion’s sold out everywhere!!

[@sansantos75]

This I really want to see.. I have 3 pairs of Death bounce Arnold's & I love them .. but if Orion sounds better I'll purchase them for my next project I'm working on..

[@realone960]

What amp?

[@sansantos75]

@@realone960 4 channel Skar rp150 1000wt

[@davidblalock1709]

Your videos are awesome. Plus theres a ton of information. Keep up the great work!

[@djmikesea]

the m60a doesnt seem to be available anymore - is the sql version just as good ?

[@MyBlowncobra]

Through my headphones the Orion sound far more natural..the Arnold's sound far to bright.

[@hulksmash8660]

I was thinking the same thing

[@ricardojuarez291]

The same.. orion for the win

[@eddieandreyev7975]

@@ricardojuarez291 nah deaf bonce all day

[@mrarivv0007]

Watch till the end. At full volume they're a lot more clear and round out that sharpness. In the beginning they sounded a little tinny but once the volume is up it's clear. They're meant to play loud anyways they're p.a. speakers.

[@billl2383]

thats because orion is a mid bass the arnold ia a mid range

[@MegaJohn334]

How can the Orion be midbass if the frequency cutoff is 230hz - 9khz? Is this just incorrect from Orion?

[@lovesick6637]

Hmm, both has it peak frequency different from one another. Treble are sometime great to listen to, depends on the type of music you choose to play. Could say that each speaker for different genre of music, for playing it at it's best frequency desired.

[@kevin10USA]

What about b2 audio? Against the best...... also I'm looking into buy 4 speakers. What top 3 speakers do you recommend personally?

[@mikebossenberry8794]

Love the videos just wish u played more songs with distinctive bass such as at 5:13

[@richardwilson5944]

Keepem coming bro!!! Close pick on those two. Definitley appreciate the vids..

[@rodneyeymanjr.285]

Are the enclosures the same size or the correct size for the speaker?

[@darwinlazo7367]

Great job big mike!! Mad props to you and your channel. I've been watching your videos from the start. I'm actually anticipating this battle of the best man let's go!

[@evanfield537]

I would run the Orion with the crossover set for more bass and run a Orion tweeter with it

[@nestobatista7911]

Hey mike have you ever compared or listened to orion HCCA64N vs HERTZ SV165.1 ID LIKE TO KNOW which one soynds better and louder

[@IIDontCareBro]

Song name @12:00 minutes?

[@euphorikfay]

orion hands down. but both are good

[@amanteapasionado6836]

Both are good but the Orion sounds more clearer. The Arnold has more background noise, that high pitch static shhhhhh sound that you don't hear as much in the Orion.

[@cesarcarofelix4096]

What type of amp needed for 4 orions like those?

[@deanknight7133]

What were your crossover points

[@lowisrichard8337]

Which is the loudest 6.5 speaker

[@jasonneal]

DB sounds really good, but the Orion sounds more full range. If you don’t have a lot of power or just swapping out factory speakers, I would go with the DB, but if you have serious power, go with the Orion

[@davewatson551]

Mike I'm needing to replace my Door speakers in my 98 GMC Truck and I have really gave it a Big thought would like a pair of ORION CT-M6 but what is your opinion on the DS18 PRO- X 6.4M 90HZ -15 KHZ 92DB Need a little advice really looking for low power nothing BIG other than a Budget Buy Good Sound

[@davewatson551]

Mike I also was looking at these can't find any info check these out 80 HZ TO 14 KHZ 95 DB 2 OHM DS18 PRO-SM6.2 6.5" Marine Motorcycle Midrange Speaker 400W Max 2 Ohm IP66 Rated THANKS MIKE .

[@hotskull226]

Thanks for the accurate comparison. I really appreciate the videos, although sometimes my interpretation or conclusion may differ to yours, Mike. What happens in the real world when you add other dedicated components with the item being compared?!

[@joearvelo7260]

Arnold is impressive with little watts but ..ORION Wins cause they take much more power They become more loud at higher volume then much better bass And highs are great.

[@jstrick9530]

Have you ever done crescendo audio pwx midbass speakers & UN midrange speakers?

[@W3BL4Z3D4NK]

Will you PLEASE do a video of the Xpm654mbf vs xtr654neo. Can't find the mbf series anymore and wanna know if the neo models are equal or worse?

[@Alllrise]

I feel like the DB would start to peak only by them already being loud and bright from the start. They kind of remind me of the timpano I had but I’d go with the Orion’s. I just switched my whole build to Orion’s lol

[@jordanrutherford1766]

Have a noobie question. Does the center bullet affect or change the sound compared to a dust cap?

[@motorax.service.motociclete]

PLEAAASE MAKE A REVIEW OF THE DB MACHETE LW654A. Even it.s a mid.bass not a mid.range. As i know is one of the few pro 6.5" bass speakers. Would be a great pair with one mid.range that you present in the videos. Orion is much more detail revealing in the begining. And also a lot pleasenr for the ears. Mid.range doesn.t mean high.range. Tweeters should not miss from a system. You really convinced me with the PRV and Orion. Now i don't know which will be best for me..mm hm

[@mattiacarradore4714]

I link non funzionano

[@nestobatista7911]

Those arnold's and the prv from the last video which one would you recomend for SQ

[@antonyurchenko5951]

Nesto Batista take Black Hudra for SQ

[@kngperbs2991]

Hey Mike, what is the best 3" midrange driver/speakers? I'm looking for loud and quality. Thanks.

[@zulubuzz8516]

Absolutely love your channe!!!

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Thank you Bro!

[@zulubuzz8516]

Still watching one of your other videos

[@Vic_714]

Nice videos man 😎😎👌🏻👌🏻

[@csj9619]

Both are absoloutely killer speakers. It's too bad the Orion isn't available, even when this video uploaded, they were always sold out everywhere. Maybe should've bought 'em when I had the chance.

[@bobbygarcia-garcia4871]

Orion sounds great

[@DeepSeaTadpole]

You have no representation for CerwinVega or Polk?

[@billl2383]

the orion is mid bass the arnold is clearly a mid range not really comparable

[@SamuelRodriguez-mo3kz]

It’s a mid range not midbass

[@edgarruiz978]

Cual tu me recomienda y donde puedo conseguirlas

[@aizartrevino8235]

Congratulation on your videos,always wait for someone to make comparison of different speakers,last year I was going to buy the Orion xpm654mbf,but I better buy Skar speakers and 2 twetters,but now that I see your videos I regret not having bought them,and now I can't find them,they are sold out.

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Check my links they available on ebay

[@normanmatura6769]

I want to see the comparison between they are ORyan and the ground zero red basket 6.5

[@erikgonzalez3722]

Amazing review!!!

[@travissapp4273]

I really like this comparison match up. Can you do one with the 2021 year models for comparison?

[@ricardojuarez291]

Orion sounds way better, the other one is way too bright, and you don't want that let that to the mid highs, that Arnold is not definitely not for midbass.. that's my opinion

[@mosessalazar7818]

Curious on why you haven't tried DD audio speakers

[@comaradelee]

will this orion fir 2010 suburban door mount?

[@richardg4944]

Deaf bonce the best for the money.ds18 and pioneer for the budget

[@davidspl]

Very good info on all those Speaker Mike check your 6.5inches orion a little bit of the magnetic is cracking but coming the good content video.

[@omarserna1732]

Orion for the win again

[@cbr1thou]

Not

[@jodyhodge7212]

Just started following, good stuff. What did you have these crossed over at?

[@x918xiiMODZzxD]

Hey Mike or anyone do y’all know if the Orion’s will fit in a 2014 Jeep jku sound bar?

[@teerackkss]

db is nice but, that orion a straight beast.

[@StepSiah]

Anyone else have some Arnold's tuned with a DSP? I have my low end set to 350hz and have my high up to 12000hz after I break them in I do plan on sending almost max RMS ratings to them. I just want to be safe as possible considering the power and I'm pretty sure I'm ok on the low end but not sure if 2 high of a frequency will damage it as well.

[@pureaudio6763]

Hello Mike, i've been watching every single video of yours and i use deaf bonce speakers too... Can you make video with Pride Solo v2? They are loud too, i'm curious to see how They play on the compare!

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Ok one day itll happen )

[@tolgadabbagh1877]

you could use a db meter at these reviews .

[@chukmorka8939]

you should do ORION VS PRV

[@lightgarlic4066]

Hola! Podrás hacer una comparación: CRESSCENDO PWX 8´´ vs HARMONY AUDIO 8´´ SERIES CARBON. Gracias!

[@alexo9468]

bose vs focal?

[@juanreynoso4930]

Saludos deesde Mexico, what difference is there between orion xtx654 and xpm654mbf?

[@ayrtonsoria6027]

Yo también quisiera saber eso bro