Are Expensive Down Jackets a Waste of Money?

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@OscarHikes 9 ай бұрын

Hey everyone! I wanted to let you know that together with my wife, we make these minimalistic hiking posters for various thru-hiking trails. You can check them out over here ➜ trailgoals.com/ (10% discount code: oscarhikes)

@marci8435 9 ай бұрын

you have to compare the mt500 instead of the mt100. you can also treat your mtX00 with nik wax and it also gets a compared water repellant down.

@Dgb27 8 ай бұрын

Was actually thinking the same! It's just about 30/40 bucks more, but it's also rated for lower temps compared to the one he's reviewing. Been using both, the mt500 for winter and the 100 for spring/fall mainly. They're both quite nice, especially considering you'd spend 150 more for something with roughly the same lifespan😂

@kay-lee8571 13 күн бұрын

I just wear a fleece jacket I got from goodwill then add a wind/water resistant soft shell on top. I honestly feel like no matter what type of gear you have, mindful layering is really what will keep you warm.

@pleok08 9 ай бұрын

Sunday, February 11th: There are times when you pay for quality and times when you pay for the name. We don't always know. Happy Trails! Ross08

@alissa_thornton 9 ай бұрын

Just received my Decathlon puffy jacket for prepping my 2025 PCT thru hike!

@precambrian_rabbit 9 ай бұрын

it's an amazing jacket, unbeatable for the price + it goes on sale

@alissa_thornton 9 ай бұрын

⁠@@precambrian_rabbitYes I did get it on sale which is even better!

@bastogne315 Күн бұрын

U gonna die when it gets wet.😢

@liv-oi6vg 3 ай бұрын

the women's mt500 uses 850fp down ich makes it extremely competitive with the most expensive jackets out there. the main difference is the more robust fabric, which adds weight

@mrridikilis 9 ай бұрын

what I've done in the past is to treat my puffy down jacket with Nikwax wash-in waterproofing, made especially for down. I think it's a pretty good hack, but, honestly haven't actually done a field test, as I've never soaked my down jacket before. but buying the nikwax double pack (cleaner and waterproofer) costs probably only at 20-25 USD, so it's a considerably cheaper than buying a more expensive jacket.

@OscarHikes 9 ай бұрын

Yes, that's a very cheap and effective way to do it! :) I'll probably do a field test like that someday on my channel when I throw out my current Deccathlon Jacket and buy a new one. How long it's able to keep me warm when damp and not waterproofed vs waterproofed and damp. The difference should be huge I imagine!

@ToudaHell Ай бұрын

@mrridikilis it might be inexpensive now, but we'll pay a much bigger price later. Those chemicals are as dense as air. As it floats into the atmosphere, it will eventually accumulate in the arctic and antarctic, making those regions THE most polluted areas on the planet. I have a post grad in environmental sciences, and I avoid anything that can be sprayed.

@ToudaHell 9 ай бұрын

You kinda need a canvas outer protection layer to help maintain the feathers in the rain. I have a really good quality down jacket without a canvas outer layer and one that has the canvas outer layer. The one without canvas couldn't retain its warmth for more than 10 years. I'm on year 14 with the one with the canvas outer layer. In good quality down jackets, the thing that wears out most often is the zipper, which can be easily replaced. I still use my over 20yr old jacket, just in higher temperatures. Also, Sir Terry Pratchet have a great quote about the economics of buying good quality vs. Cheap things in his book Men at Arms.

@patrickbedruz6475 Ай бұрын

Will a quality shell outerlayer do the job?

@ToudaHell Ай бұрын

@patrickbedruz6475 absolutely. You just need something to protect the inner layer where the feathers are.

@patrickbedruz6475 Ай бұрын

@@ToudaHell Awesomee thank youu!

@petercourtney7125 9 ай бұрын

Bit unfair. The MT500 is a closer comparison.

@OscarHikes 9 ай бұрын

I looked into it and yes, that indeed would be a more fair comparison. The specs are really similar to the OV down jacket. It's just that I didn't have it on hand and I haven't used the MT500 before.

@camping_guru_uk 9 ай бұрын

Just bought it, £60 here in the UK, love it, packs up so small and weighs very little. Cheers

@rogerhoneycutt1697 9 ай бұрын

I’d wear two of the cheaper one and still be cheaper than the expensive one

@wonderfullife9585 2 ай бұрын

Bought too many cheap down jackets even some are not so cheap in Germany but doesn’t work at all 😩 at the end have to buy a good one

@daniel.konecny 9 ай бұрын

Sorry, but the OV jacket fit is just atrocious 😂 Looks very similar to Patagonia down sweater. MT100 is the winner for my hiking needs. Slimmer fit, higher neck collar, better shaped minimal hood and tbh I really don't think I need anything more warm than that.

@ParaBellum282 2 ай бұрын

I've used the decathlon for years, with a wool base layer and a fleece under and toggs rain jacket over, it can handle 10° F like a beast.

@OscarHikes 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, with enough layering I've been out in -10C and below temps with it as well!

@patrickdolan. 8 күн бұрын

I've been comfortable in -10 Fahrenheit with the outdoor vitals nova pro. I own both too. It's a beast of a jacket. The decathlon is amazing for the price too. The stichless nova pro really blocks the wind

@peterjohnson6273 4 күн бұрын

Always good. Thanks. How do you think it would work if you were to buy the Decathlon, a size that fits you, such as a large, and an extra large to go over the large? You'd be able to layer very well.

@samthompson390 6 ай бұрын

Just found your channel toda., great advice, obviously experienced and actually testing gear normal people can afford. 10/10 keep it up :) 👍

@BismarckMorales-j2e 23 сағат бұрын

They resist some damage? Like falls, branches?

@MarshallsLife 3 ай бұрын

If been using a $799NZD Macpac Phoenix Waterproof down jacket for a couple of months now, anddddd it’s one of my biggest regrets, at a certain point, your just paying extra for a tiny boost in quality. Would recommend paying anywhere from $200NZD TO $350NZD..

@edgartokman4898 3 күн бұрын

They are top 10 jackets very light too very well made

@jaypandya9661 2 ай бұрын

How well and unbiased Explanation given superb

@dark_antihero 7 күн бұрын

I have a $25 gap synthetic down jacket and it keeps me warm in nyc winter

@Fernando-qi3el 7 ай бұрын

Can you also talk about pants you use in your hiking in the mountains? Nice video though 🙏🏽 Thanks

@sebastianbjoernestad 2 ай бұрын

Hey Oscar, I'm looking to buy a Novapro here in Europe. Where did you get yours?

@_chimera_ 12 күн бұрын

It is not $50. Your own link brings up $99.99. Which is twice of what you claimed it to be

@flaxin 2 ай бұрын

where did you get the MT100 for only $50?

@buschlattes7066 4 сағат бұрын

Outdoor vitals loftek is the warmest jacket I've ever survived in

@Obi-Wan_Pierogi Ай бұрын

Couldn't you just treat your jacket with a product like Nikwax? That's whatI do with my Decathlon jacket.

@lbco5229 26 күн бұрын

$$ usually means better quality down, and $$ means more warmth.

@disartster 7 ай бұрын

Have you tried any clothing items from 4F? I find many of them to be pretty nice quality. A bit more expensive than Decathlon, but much higher quality (haven't tried down jackets yet though)

@OscarHikes 7 ай бұрын

Nope, not yet.

@patrickbedruz6475 Ай бұрын

Will these down jackets be ok in the pacific northwest where its wet a lot if you put a quality shell over it?

@ToudaHell Ай бұрын

@patrickbedruz6475 I've always had down jackets. My experience is that moisture is the worst thing for those jackets. The shell is absolutely necessary to keep it functional. I've had jackets with and without a shell. The one with the shell lasted much longer than the one without. Even though the one without was much better quality and more expensive. It was much lighter, but when new could withstand up to -25C. But the feathers lost their heat trapping capacity after only 10 years while I'm on year 15 with my lower quality shelled jacket.

@patrickbedruz6475 Ай бұрын

@ToudaHell wicked thats nice to know, I'd be happy with that performance.

9 ай бұрын

TNF Thermoball is on discount rn 🏷️

@Jordan__Sloan 2 ай бұрын

TNF makes trash products for people who don’t actually use them for outdoor sports, happened about 10 years ago

2 ай бұрын

@@Jordan__Sloan They make clothes. How and when one uses them is up to people who buy them. For me Thermoball has worked better that Micro Puff in DESERT MOUNTAINS. Very happy with Nuptse in the CITY. Planning to take it with me to Nepal. So there.

@moorejl57 9 ай бұрын

It looks like the MT100 is going for $99 US now.

@Brian-R 13 күн бұрын

No clothes, down jacket or not, is worth what they think you should pay at places like REI. Buy off brands direct and spend your money on more important things. Leave the money wasting to urbanites who don’t even need down jackets.

@sylvono 22 күн бұрын

Or use 2 cheap down jackets?

@maxywaxymus 22 күн бұрын

does anyone else get this effect where the decathlon keeps making a circular looking dent when it bends, looking like you have a gigantic belly button?

@Juanlu. 9 ай бұрын

Buen vídeo! Muy instructivo!!! Los que vivimos en la España mediterránea y sólo nos acercamos al Pirineo en verano, lo tenemos claro: la de decathlon!