Our Dog Bed Coffee Table! (finally) S14E93

[@goliyth5134]

As a double dog, single cat servant; There was lot of smoke thrown here from people making furniture for people not pets. A little bit concerning. 1) Always drawers, period. Somewhere to put and secure the 15 toys that get "fetched" from the milk crate everyday is a godsend. Single large drawer with with ready to find handle. Don't get artsy. 2) A solid panel on one of the bed openings. This allows an "isolation" wall for the pet to feel more secure. 3) The open (door) wall should be an entire door. If a pet is seriously sick or infirm they will look for a place to disappear into. Forcing an owner, in an already stressful problem by trying to reach into a hole to retrieve some animal who doesn't want anything to do with the world. Good way to get bitten. 4) The top "cubby" needs to be lined with felt. To mitigate dropping sound to animal underneath. 5) Door side must be metal grill. Anyone who has had a teething puppy has had to replace "heirloom" furniture. 6) If still concerned about human storage take magazine rack from modular desk for end. Remotes wont be stored in the top, not easy enough access. 7) The door wall needs to be its own assembly and dropped in through the top cubby. Will add to durability to the door wall. Will also allow replacement if damaged. 8) Different height options. Not everyone has a purse pupper. Much rather give up a couple of inches for animal to make them more comfortable then having them squeeze into a bed. 9) Run a mag rail on all four sides to tie in accessories. Daddy and his buddies still need somewhere to put the refreshments. 10) Incorporate a plastic tray underneath the bed pad. Some pets get excited, nervous, anxious, in their own home and urinate. Sad to loose a piece of furniture to something uncontrollable. Sorry for the word wall. Just thought you fine gents might be going in a wrong direction. Not a coffee table looking like a kennel, but should be a kennel that happens to look like a coffee table. Otherwise pet owners might not give it a second look. Focus the pet = Profit.

[@hjewkes]

Another height options would be so nice. This is one of my favorite design projects from wyrmwood, but no shot at all that my dog would ever fit in there

[@DangerFieldProd]

I can't believe the one drawer option wasn't a discussion. It could hold leashes, lots of toys, dry rain jackets, treats, whatever. They already had the storage area under the top which would likely hold papers, pens, remotes, controllers. One drawer would remove Jason's concerns about it being hidden and provide a lot of functionality.

[@TheBlackClaymore]

Love the word wall as you articulated almost every point that came to my mind.

[@Apollotollo]

100000% agree with every point.

[@steelsunpi]

As a fellow dog slave, one of which is an old lady that likes to hide in her house and has urinary issues, you are spot on with all your points. Also as a woodworker that has made dog kennels, you have to think of some things: dog escape/play - make sure those panels can't be removed/popped-off by a dog either goofing around, pawing, or in distress. Cleanability - there will be accidents - both from the bottom of the dog and the mouth.

[@pudyg]

I think Matt´s input in the last couple of projects has been awesome!!! Keep up the good work

[@Dgow23]

Bobby with the New England accent on ‘drawer’ got me. Also, drawers are the answer, sorry Jason. My beagle, Athena, snoozes right beside me as I watch these videos every morning.

[@Boyskor]

Get Matt on the Design team. He is the voice of the people!

[@ljskizzle]

Doug making blanket statements about what people want is my favorite running gag

[@DarthPoyner]

His version of the "How do you do, fellow kids?" Meme.

[@Lavasioth]

Because he’s so often completely off the mark?

[@bunker1213]

He always has a favorite group or side and the other group can just go somewhere else. But sooner or later everyone ends up at least once in the wrong group. There will be no world domination for Wyrmwood. Best regards from Europe 😅

[@mpc148]

I like the modular idea, let people decide if they want drawers or shelves. It's the Wyrmwood way.

[@berrymand71]

AND.... put the rail system on the top drawer.

[@me0262]

Cats would absolutely love this actually! It's a small enclosed space with only one opening. Put a bed or blankets in there and they'll walk in and curl up instantly! Doggo bed, not just for doggos!

[@WildflowersCreations]

Yes, larger market and everyone needs a coffee table. Please offer both options: option 1 kennel doors on both sides, option 2 open pet bed area.

[@ivanisekonopka1509]

I know our cats would use this more than our dog 😂 I think a drawer shelf combo. Put the treats in the drawer so pets can't get them and toys on the shelf so they can pick them out to play.

[@connorlee2011]

​@@ivanisekonopka1509EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! Would love an option to get a front to back open shelf on top and a full extension drawer on bottom.

[@devsfan1830]

This is the first wyrmwood piece i might actually want, if the price isnt desk level outrageous. I too would be using it for cat bed. The pet bed and the lift top is exactly what i need, and it looks like a great coffee table as is.

[@carlll6101]

@@ivanisekonopka1509 or if the drawers would face the couch put the shelf's on the opposing site. Drawers would be too long anyway in this orientation.

[@cowkil666]

Matt needs to be apart of every meeting to have his ideas shared that no one else sees from that other view

[@bryonpope4622]

The modular desk idea is a good idea. It allows the customer to pick which option they like - drawers or shelves. The pull shelf that Ian offered was also a good idea. If memory serves, didn't Crazy Ed create a prototype where the panels slid into grooves and could be stored underneath of the table? Looking forward to see what else you guys come up with. Also, don't forget a rubber mat to put in the pupper area for when there are accidents - to protect the wood.

[@7scyther]

Another Idea is no draws or shelfs but make accesses to that space from above when you open for the rising shelf and your have a 2ft deep area where you can store more stuff from the top.

[@gmilam2]

Great idea! Love this!

[@adamtomlinson918]

Kelly was talking about how changing the shelves creates an orientation. but it already has an orientation with the top that comes up on one side

[@CRAZY-ED]

Thank you Doug. It’s always better to be fun

[@revmolter]

From Production standpoint...using the Modular Desk stuff makes a lot of sense.

[@Infernoblade1010]

Jason: I've never seen a well executed hidden drawer. Crazy Ed: Oh yea? Challenge accepted!!!

[@monkeytreey]

Drawer in a false shiplap wall hides the shadow line

[@ColinRichardson]

I would say Jason is ABSOLUTELY correct... But, rather than "He's never seen" it's more "He's unable to see a well executed hidden drawer" 🥁🥁

[@ScoopNoSlaw]

I like the ability of a modules side component. Allows for drawers to store dog toys/treats, open cubby looks neater and can hold coffee tables books like a little "library". Good idea Jason.

[@tangyboi6420]

Gotta do drawers, it keeps your junk hidden and your room cleaner. Side walls are not only more visible, but the mess inside becomes more visable as its likely going to face a doorway, hallways, etc.. Team front facing drawers!

[@millerliteman-2617]

I'd like to see this go the modular option. My dog is far too big to use this as a kennel, but if there were modular options to put shelves or drawers in the kennel section then Id be a buyer! Also, gotta go drawers on the end, but bobby is right, they need to come out the full length of the drawer.

[@strydderg5650]

I fully agree with Doug on this one, if Wyrmwood built a puzzle box/table I would purchase it and never leave my house!

[@fakjbf3129]

5:57 Maybe we could make a cubby system with baskets that are attached to the table by rails. Then we can pull these “baskets” out as needed to access the space and when they are closed it makes a flush surface. We could even make these “baskets” out of the same wood as the table so they match, maybe the top “basket” has the handle at the top and the bottom “basket” has the handle at the bottom. We would just want to make sure that these “baskets” are easy to get open and that they pull out the full distance.

[@hjewkes]

Now I really want to see Ed make a puzzle box in the form factor of an MGT

[@cpnfirestone]

The 'Kelly is a spy' meme is one of my top ten favorite running gags of wyrmlyfe, I've missed it : ) 2:36

[@henrikhendrickson2375]

YES

[@ttmcgee3357]

Watching Wyrmlife while sipping my Wyrmwood hot cocoa in my Wyrmwood mug at my Wyrmwood table. Life is good 💜

[@Outt63]

The issue with drawers facing you that are that thin and deep, is they won't be able to extend them out all the way with the couch, depending on how close they keep this to their couch. They could possibly do 3/4 deep drawers that open to whichever side the top pulls up to, and then 1/4 shelf/cubby opposite the door on the outside end. That's like a decoration area anyway, it's what everyone else sees when they come in your room.

[@yourLittleSinner]

I'm team side drawers. I hope they see this issue when they set it up next to a couch.

[@d_dave7200]

Everyone has good points here. I really feel Jason's pain, because the shelves on the side are a better piece of design and it just makes the whole coffee table look nicer as a piece of furniture. Also for my personal use case I would want the shelves -- I think a lot of people already have coffee tables with a lower level underneath, and may have things they want to store that won't fit if you do drawers. Additionally our couch is close to the coffee table, so side access makes more sense for us. That said, people do like hidden things, and drawers are maybe more unusually useful as storage. If you can offer both, that would be best. Also front access probably makes more sense for a lot of people too. This is one of those things where opinions of customers will vary wildly.

[@Unclebillyr]

You don't hide the toys away. You want the toys exposed. That way the dog has access to them anytime he wants. If you don't, the dogs going to know where the toys are at and he's going to tear it up trying to get to them. The toys are there to keep the dog occupied and entertained when you're not around. You should offer both options just like you do the desk. Personally, I'd like a shelf and a drawer. You should make the kennel wall a double door that slides one to the left and one to the right.

[@Hellyardsown]

Absolutely. Everyone's table is gonna get eaten hiding toys in drawers.

[@Cmal8900]

Not all toys are all the time toys. My lab loves soft toys with squeakers but she destroys them so we limit activity so she does not eat the squeaker. Never had an issue with dogs chewing furniture.

[@DarthPoyner]

@@Hellyardsown If your dogs eat your furniture then you are a bad dog parent.

[@Hellyardsown]

@@DarthPoyner right on

[@Unclebillyr]

@DarthPoyner Apparently you have never raised a puppy. Good luck not getting them not to chew it is how they learn and explore at a young age. It has nothing to do with being a bad dog owner.

[@trickster562]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they decide last time to have the panels store underneath the table. They would slide out from below making it easy to store them.

[@MrAgBack]

For the pup bed I’d love the option for a middle shelf on this instead of the pup area. Don’t have a dog. I don’t need another MGT but I would love the table and have storage for regularly played games. .

[@etherdark]

Id be good with 1 large drawer instead of 2. like 1 deep drawer for all the dog supplies. Cleaners/paper towels, treats, and yes toys, but there is more than just toys that should be close at hand.

[@lifecoachfordogs]

Im a trainer. I love this channel (it’s good small business inspiration) that being said im not sure that dogs would like this or be drawn to it. My suggestions would be 1. A place to put your feet so your dog is in some sort of contact/ comfort 2. A way to divide crate to adjust size. A crate should be big enough to stand up and turn around in and not much else 3. Does this thing soak up pee? I would ask a dog trainer or a behavioral expert in general

[@Absintheskiss]

I was going to say myself that it is time to get a dog expert involved. This could be a trainer or vet.

[@ScytheNoire]

As a pet parent, should look to see if the bed can be heated, both dogs and cats love them. Just requires a hole for the lower power heating pad, but if one could be included that fits into the bed, but removeable for washing, that would be ideal. Heated pet beds are a must for luxury furnitute.

[@tey272]

my 2 cents : i like the idea that customers should have an option of shelf or drawers. i also think facing the couch is important but that also makes the problem of which side the storage is on. sliding drawers is a win, jason is right with drawers that look like drawers. and bonus thought, have a mini fridge option, because why the hell not

[@monkeytreey]

In the shop and house I alwase like drawers over doors (and shelves) the stuff in the back of a shelf get lost.

[@banjofrogcomics]

Doug is on his full donald ark. "Sneaky drawers.... people love surprises. Wow"

[@miniwing]

Bottom Draw, top shelf so that you maintain the biggest selling point the magnetic rail. Edit: If its for dog toys or treats you don't need the drawers on the couch side.

[@eculhane]

The shelves look way better, the drawers are more functional for dog owners.

[@thesteadystone]

Jason, I agree completely with all of your observations! Thank you for continuing to bringing your perspectives!

[@ditdah]

Drawers FTW. The whole point of this thing is to be a coffee table option. I don't want to have a beautiful piece of furniture that is then filled with miscellaneous visible clutter and crap in the center of the room.

[@animemenga125]

the drawers on the dog bed also works for anything else you would put there then your dog cant get to it whether its remotes, toys, games, cords, batteries or anything. also please assume customer strength is bobby strength lolz

[@derekturgeon7397]

If you make the drawers go across the entire width of the table, it's going to hit the couch you're sitting on.

[@BabsEcho]

My Pug would happily sleep in there with no door as long as it has a nice pad and I'm sitting on the sofa next to him. My Husky would chew his way out, assuming I could get him there at all, then possibly pee on it just to make his point. The cat would sprawl out on top, knocking off anything not neatly stowed away in one of the drawers, (definitely drawers).

[@phicklep]

Question: how would you clean it? Inevitably, the dog will create some form of a mess and it will need to be washed or scrubbed. A standard wood finish will have difficulty handling urine, especially if it’s not discovered immediately.

[@JonTripp115]

It took too long for Doug to say "we need a couch". The whole front-drawer conversation, my thought was "How far away from the couch will it have to be to use those drawers?"

[@demonicbunny3po]

I like the Modular desk idea.

[@granpappy77]

I've got two mutts that are mostly pitties. Can't say this would work for me as a dog bed but with more modular options, I might still be interested. Shelving in the dog area would be GREAT for storing MGT accessories or other gaming supplies.

[@psych77777]

i don't even have a dog and this interests me. i'd just use the dog area to store blankets or such. haha

[@Phillosophy-w1r]

I didn't know I wanted something like this until the initial reveal. They look great!

[@ZorgoXorgon]

Ian's slide up and hide door is a great idea. And the tray idea too! Best of both worlds, shelf or drawer!

[@patrickkeehan9560]

I would also recommend grabbing different dogs to see what sizes/weights would fit in the kennel, how they would try to enter it, how the dog could damage the furniture, etc since that may also affect the design. Also, consider selling a waterproof liner on the inside in case the dog has an accident , so the table doesn't get ruined/absorb the smell. Depending on how close the table is the couch you may only be able to open a drawer so much. If you want to have that cubby area just be a dog toy throw bin, then you could cut the table top to have a mini topper that you could remove to throw all the toys in the table bin.

[@elgoobero]

When he said you need a couch all I could think was "What kind of features would a wyrmwood couch have"?

[@bencahill6441]

OMG Bobby's laugh at 9:28. I need this on repeat!

[@markwallendal]

How big of a dog do you think will be able to fit comfortably in there for an extended period of time? Maybe it’s just my eyes, but the one shown today looks like it would be for small dogs only. I don’t think a medium sized dog would be comfortable in there and definitely won’t fit a large dog. I think a video showing dogs interacting with this would be helpful to set expectations.

[@DarthPoyner]

A medium dog would be fine in there. If you leave the "walls" off a large-ish dog could fit. But your malamutes and stuff aren't fitting.

[@Reyn_Roadstorm]

@@DarthPoyner And you get to a point if trying to design for large dogs where the coffee table ends up larger than the couch. Great Danes and Mastiffs just get a large - but standard - cushion bed. Or maybe the human gets that when the dog takes the couch...

[@markwallendal]

@@DarthPoyner thanks!

[@TheRich4187]

I think the removable gate was unique but agree fighting to keep the dog in while sliding it in is gonna be hard. Maybe a slide it gate with a door that swings opened would be a nice comprimise?? You can still take it out and then drop it in for everyday use. That will make cleaning any possible accidents or enivitable mess in there easier too if that can slide out.

[@Chaosghoul]

I know these are coffee tables, but how about setting one beside a MGT? I know this will block one player's seat, but generally speaking how does the length of these compare to the width of your tables?

[@schwachoochoo]

I am eyeing this project with the mind that it may not interest my dog, but would still make a very nice coffee table. I bet there are a lot of people who'd want in on this, regardless of their pet circumstances.

[@matt-lang]

I think drawers facing the desk location makes the most sense overall. I had an old coffee table with drawers and it was more useful than the fully open shelf on my other coffee table.

[@keeleyclark1284]

I like the modular idea or just the shelves. If people want to store their stuff in a hidden way, get a decorative basket and put it in the cubby!!

[@leeyuna1823]

On drugs last statement, you know your tables can survive a house fire

[@Nomgoose]

Will you even be able to open the drawer fully without hitting the couch with the orientation you're talking about?

[@othsy2k]

1 big deep pull-through drawer with an optional drop in treat tray (something removable and washable).

[@katenawolfenstein9468]

Palooza daddy caught me so off guard

[@minishmew]

I have a Mittelspitz who may use it, but I see my cats using this more. Drawers all the way! It would be nice to have a hidden space for all of the toys. Love the top lift! Can't wait for this product to become available. I can foresee me ordering a black walnut variant now.

[@daethwing188]

You cant keep dog treats on a tray or shelf, you need drawers to hide treats, bags, etc.

[@CloudSurfer13]

I'd want enclosed drawers so I could put dog treats in them and not worry about the dog getting to them. Also, it's cleaner and I can store whatever dog or non-dog related items I want out of sight. Front drawers are more convenient but side drawers are ok if they're bigger and offer more space.

[@herolounge]

Oh wormwood puzzle box i would buy that on kickstarter.

[@TheAlmightyBracket]

the storage has to be enclosed if it's for an animal to sleep in, otherwise your pet is going to just yank everything out, and using the top for the storage of pet stuff means you can't use it for anything else, especially if it's dog toys, because they're going to be chewed up and smell like dog breath. Jason isn't thinking of the way people will use it.

[@MrJakzones]

Hot take, ditch the kennel function of the table. Let the table be a bed. Let the kennel be a kennel. I feel like the table should be a spot to facilitate the dog hanging out with the family during tv/movie time.

[@beantheben3130]

I think the drawers are a better solution, but one large deep drawer would be better

[@chrisroenicke8347]

Pass through shelves could work if you also sold baskets/crates that fit them perfectly. You could do 2 on each level, it could hide stuff like a drawer but would be far simpler to build. But it’s near impossible to find a basket that fits a specific space after you buy a piece of furniture, if you sold them as well the biggest pain of shelves would be gone.

[@BeardedWoodcrafts]

Matt always coming through with the best insight ever!!!!

[@PhoenixHate]

is this dog bed supposed to fall in with your prophecy line of furniture, or in your modular line of furniture, because if its modular, why wouldnt you utilize your already existing solution from the MODULAR desk, so that your customers can decide? Ive also been wondering if anyone had done any research into whether or not there is a recommended kennel size(square footage) for a particular size(weight) of dog, because it may be that having the kennel isnt worth the effort? If you can sell it as an open dog bed and any animal can utilize it, and you also dont have to worry about complaints of "my dog wont fit" or any lawsuits(not that we dont love Frank) concerning, "My dog was injured while in side the kennel feature" because of airflow, heat, or chewing on something that they shouldnt. like, there is a reason that Dog kennels are made the way that they are for safety and security of the animal.

[@amandawestbrook6848]

Let’s be real, the shelves are for the cats!

[@ScytheNoire]

Matt is once again correct. needs to be on the side where you sit and have access to it. Advantage of drawers is that people like to put things away. Shelves are easier to produce and get right. Does Wyrmwood do the easy thing, or the luxury thing? Ditch the kennel thing, that's just silly. No doors below.

[@KyleCorbeau]

12:09 German Sherperd Malinois Mix and a Golden Retriever. Polar opposite enegery but both the loviest/ cuddliest dogs I've ever had.

[@rullerr]

regarding drawers vs cubbys. Keep in mind if this is dog height, cubbies provide no protection from your dogs getting at the things. If I wanted to store treats or even something like my dogs' leads there, they'd be constantly pulling them down. Drawers while likely more work and expense in the form of hardware, provide protection for the things being stored from our furry little asshole friends.

[@WildflowersCreations]

Yes having storage for all the dog stuff and equipment would be great. Harness, lease, extra treats for walks, poop bags, and so on.

[@ScytheNoire]

Definitely. We have an ottoman with storage, and that's where all the treats, some toys, and nail clippers are stored. Just have to be sneaky when taking out the nail clippers so they don't see it, otherwise you end up with a chase around the house. :)

[@johnbanker456]

Another option for shelves would be to put them on both ends with the kennel centered in the middle of the table. That way you would have storage on both ends and it isn't too deep to reach inside. I agree with Jason, the current drawers look like a bad/damaged side panels and if you are keeping the storage on 1 side, make it compatible with the cubby, drawer, cabinet module for the desks. That would give max flexibility for customers.

[@NuclearNova_]

Definitely the shelf solution or what Ian said about a sliding shelf. Easier access, and more intuitive to me

[@Joshua_Tymchyn]

I'm pro pull out basket. I could tell my dog to go get a specific toy from his basket and he would bring it back. Side note: I don't have a dog or a cat. When is the sugar glider kennel coming from Wyrmwood?

[@CrookGerards]

If you are going to use this as a kennel how do you plan if the dog uses the bathroom inside. Do you have a removable tray slide on the inside to collect waste if it happens?

[@tatosauce4076]

Saw a similar comment before but I gotta say mvp for wyrmwood design, 100% Matt.

[@uniacke]

“Load it up, seal it up, set it on fire “ Hahahahaha ohhhh, thanks Doug I needed that.

[@dominickmanusos2121]

An alternative could be a lower hidden drawer, but the upper space is used/accessed when the lid is opened. For deeper storage options.

[@BritishTeaLover]

Question with the top storage, is that actually deep enough to have full size controllers in there?

[@lukcymann]

Drawers are best. Keep treats, toys, and other things you want to store. However, having the option is really nice for more possible orders.

[@willofthemaker]

5:46 YOU HAD YOUR TURN😂😂😂😂

[@Unclebillyr]

Good morning, Wyrmlings.

[@uniacke]

Good morning

[@WildflowersCreations]

Love the top, drawer(s) facing the couch / not shelves, permanent kennel doors on both sides or dog bed option please. If possible the railing system on all sides. Good luck this is a really hard furniture piece to design well.

[@justinhall13]

Is there any modularity to these? I know I would want my shelves in a specific direction and my lift in a specific direction to fit with my space. The one in the video would have my shelves opening into the wall or the laptop shelf opening away from the couch.

[@4Tankmp]

If you have to use a basket might as well use a drawer. The shelf/cubby is ideal for books or quick access but out of the way of main working surface.

[@RoseKindred]

I no longer have a dog but my cats would love this and I would like it just in general for the living room. Better than the ottoman I use.

[@leroyjamesc]

I love the modular idea

[@OyBoy413]

I like the sliding tray idea. As well as the modularity idea.

[@MrGuurn]

Doug all dressed up making design choices isn't as convincing as worker guy Doug doing the same.

[@jacobharvey2946]

Some good ideas in the comments. Overall I’m with Jason. And it’s not just cause my wife is getting a modular desk… Standardizing it on the modular system and allowing for options sounds like a great idea. Two drawers… yup. Two cubbies… yup. One drawer, one cubby… yup. One drawer, and a door for the cubby… yup. Etc.

[@jacobharvey2946]

Also, I wouldn’t use cubbies for random crap, it’d be things like books and magazines. We wouldn’t be digging around in there, getting aggravated like Doug implied.

[@lady_pumpkin]

OMG dog beds are back!!!!

[@wild_rux]

I love both concepts bit I also feel like combining the ideas would be a cool too. Hidden drawer on the bottom and shelf on the top.

[@unfairleyc]

What about bins that pull out (tip out) on each side, something deep for dog toys?

[@JackWumbo117]

What do you guys do with all the prototypes? I kinda really want them....

[@joesmoe4953]

Can you guys do top shelf in a tray style and keep a bottom drawer? That way you have the best of both, Keep rail access while keeping a drawer for pup toys. I also agree with front access. I would never use side access drawers.

[@chamexplores4652]

Matt needs to be on the design team if not already. Man is full of amazing ideas

[@LiLIrishSoutherner]

Hearing Bobby say Drawer… I had to rewind it to make sure I heard him correctly. 10/10