OUR EPISODE OF EUPHORIA! - RELAX #55

This week Colleen and Erik pitch what an episode of Euphoria would be if it took place in their childhoods. Also Colleen thinks that Erik needs to Relax.
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[@KittyCatCarrie]

I really hope that Colleen and Eric have a conversation about this outside of filming this podcast to help open a Colleen's eyes about how common sex, drugs and alchohol are to the teenage experience. I never did drugs but when I drank or had sex I was safe because my mom was so open about it and knew how to keep me safe.

[@kimbrellcirrito756]

Yes this! I have the best mom ever and she did not shield me from anything and that helped me more than she knew. Being informed is so important

[@emilythorne4119]

Same, my parents are the best! They have the philosophy that if they tell us (me and my siblings) not to do it we'll probably do it anyway so it's better to just make sure we're doing it safely. I thought Colleen came off as quite judgemental towards anyone who has had sex in high school, especially since it's so common now. It isn't really seen as a bad or scandalous thing anymore (at least in my experience) and she's making it seem like it's absolutely horrible if you have sex in high school. I like Colleen but I think she needs to take some time to realize that just because it wasn't her personal experience, doesn't mean it isn't anyone else's.

[@stellaelectrahsky]

Same! My parents were teen parents, my dad is now a successful business owner and my mom a strong independent woman and they taught me about sex education very young and put me on birth control at 15!! I thank God everyday that I had a safe home to ask for contraception and to pick me up from unsafe parties! We loved going to parties but some would get hella out of hand so it was great to know my family would pick me up, not judge me, and make sure I wasn't driving with under the influence teens who just got cars

[@camryn3310]

You shouldn’t encourage that lifestyle. Keep your children safe but don’t encourage. Don’t helicopter parent, let kids experience and learn on their own, guide them, protect them, support them, but don’t encourage that behavior. It’s actually a very big issue that alcohol and drug use is very overlooked in college students because “it’s apart of the experience” but that is why a lot of college students who have an actual issue die from alcohol poisoning or overdose because their behavior is no longer seen as “dysfunctional” like it should be because we have made alcoholism and drug use a normal part of the college or teen experience. Not a great message to send.

[@bdfwhhsb]

Another thing is that she’s going on a tour across America whilst preaching about how safe she is during Covid. Something doesn’t add up 😬

[@KatherineJ1346]

Honestly the only unrealistic part of Euphoria are the outfits and them never once getting dress coded, everything else is pretty spot on

[@xjanetzy]

my high school does not care about how we dress, maybe it’s just a southern thing.😂

[@mayaseaver6448]

yep!!!

[@shaylincrosby3262]

I think it really depends on the school, I’m the class of 2021 and we didn’t have a dress code.

[@teamphelly5228]

I was ALWAYS given detention for stupid dress code lol!!! So dumb

[@catladymallory9242]

Maybe also the murdering part

[@smmarie1236]

Colleen is in for a rough ride when their kids go to school lmao

[@beatrice8853]

Nah she’s way too controlling to send the to school 🤣

[@smmarie1236]

@@beatrice8853 LOL you’re so right

[@diannesulman]

My daughter is in college and never will do that shit on Euphoria. I bought her up right.

[@smmarie1236]

@@diannesulman sure thing Dianne

[@diannesulman]

@@smmarie1236 truth. Nor did my eldest until she left school and the middle child, wild, she did it all.

[@robynehrlich9065]

I love Colleen and I've watched her videos for literally a decade, and I have grown to respect Colleen's mom in many ways, but I have no respect for the fact that she wouldn't allow her children to take health and sexual wellness classes. And I don't even think it's fair to blame it on the religious aspect. It's embarrassing that she wanted to shelter and shame her children to the point where Colleen can't even comfortably watch fake sex scenes in movies and television.

[@KW93747]

I don’t know that the last part stems from that. Maybe. My parents didn’t shame sex and I’m uncomfortable with it in films/tv.

[@letsgototoro3413]

They defo grew up fundie lite.. i mean look at how sheltered she is and how chris and jessica’s kids are - bailey acts as if she’s 8 years old, using toddler divider plates and not being treated like she’s turning 16 next year. I doubt Colleen will send her kids to school she’s too controlling or it’ll be some private religious one. She clearly has religious trauma

[@bdfwhhsb]

@@letsgototoro3413 let’s not bring Jess and Chris into this. It hasn’t got anything to do with them

[@katiescarboro248]

@@bdfwhhsb but they literally do the same thing as Colleen's mom. Like yeah, Bailey does act like she's 8. She's gonna get a huge shock when she gets into high school.

[@MadelineClaire]

Colleen is being extremely judgmental and her privilege is showing. The way that she talked about people who battle addiction was so gross. And the way that she promoted abstinence was gross. FYI Colleen, abstinence doesn’t work. Teens are going to have sex and we need to teach them how to do it safely.

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

promoting abstinence is dangerous and ignorant. I understand that she was raised like that but at this point she must know that it is a dangerous point to make. I hope she is more open with her children in conversations about these topics.

[@annewatkins8864]

@@giuliacacciatore4765 she does not need your advise ,on this subject. It's her business how she teaches her child about anything. She does not tell you how to be Accept and respect old fashion values ,it does work. Shell figure it out .she's very smart.

[@kaylamarie9011]

@@annewatkins8864 Get off of everyone’s comments. The majority of them are completely valid.

[@Jade-po1vy]

Colleen I’m 32, grew up in the Midwest, and can tell you Euphoria is completely accurate. And the theater kids were known for being crazy sexual at my school lol I would say to try to be more sensitive towards Rue’s drug addiction. It came across as judgmental and harsh… I have had friends and family struggle with drug and alcohol addictions. I would not simply label them as addicts. I hope watching more opens your eyes a bit. And listen to Erik! He had a lot of good points.

[@yelyahhayley]

Yes!! The bit about the theater kids. When she was like "I'm a theater kid!" My mind went to all the theater kids getting drunk every weekend and hooking up LOL band kids in American pie are the theater kids irl

[@kyleelol3256]

agreed

[@mars7143]

yes yes to all of this

[@oceangodwin8641]

Y'all, addict here who's been clean for 3 years.. laughed at this part of the podcast. She obviously wasn't trying to be offensive towards people who struggle with addiction. Lighten up guys, if youre not the addict, don't speak for them.

[@mars7143]

@@oceangodwin8641 there are former addicts in the comments who are genuinely hurt by this - just because you think folks are being sensitive doesnt mean all addicts agree with your perspective.

[@kambresims]

Colleen just being so sheltered that Erik is pretending that he didn't do typical high school things 💀 people 100% did drugs and hooked up all the time at my high school lmao

[@o0Theresa0o]

I wish she didn't make him feel shamed for it. He shuts down and won't admit to anything because she responds in a chastising manner. Also, it makes me feel bad for younger viewers who are currently experiencing it.

[@sallll27]

@@o0Theresa0o THIS!!

[@beatrice8853]

I wish she would stop acting like her fundie family are normal and everyone else is weird.

[@sallll27]

@@o0Theresa0o also her tone behind speaking about drug addicts… it doesn’t come across well.

[@alexandrastone3166]

Saaaaame

[@krispretzel]

I LOVE you Colleen and religiously watch your main channel, vlog channel, and this podcast, however I do notice that when you don’t agree with Erik or you don’t have the same experiences as him you completely disregard him and don’t listen to his side. You kind of make it out like he’s lying. I grew up in a town where drugs were/still are everywhere. Euphoria is very accurate to mine and I’m sure a lot of peoples high school experiences. I don’t mean this with any hate, just maybe listen to other peoples sides. You say yourself you grew up very sheltered which isn’t most peoples experience. Love you and will always be a supporter. ❤️ edit: also it’s a little hurtful to see you referring rue as only a “drug addict” in the show. Especially with such judgment. She suffered a lot of trauma in her life and is a person outside of the drugs. Please be more mindful when speaking ill about addiction. I’ve experienced so many family members and classmates slowly fade away from it and mourning the loss of someone who’s still alive is heartbreaking. Just remember even if you’re just speaking about a character on a tv show, it’s real for a lot of people and you’re speaking about someone’s family member or friend. Again no malice is intended with this just trying to educate. There’s always room to learn and teach! ❤️

[@Leiloke]

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[@user-py2fx5wp1o]

I agree she does do that a lot. If she hasn’t heard of a song, actor, movie or word etc. she treats Erik as if he’s lying or dumb and 90% of the time she’s the one who’s wrong. It’s super frustrating.

[@krispretzel]

B D i agree. I love her but it’s getting harder and harder to watch.

[@coolkid08]

Agreed. I think she does it for entertainment purposes, but I'd much rather listen to a coherent conversation where they each share their perspectives without the constant "No way! That isn't real. You're a crazy person" script 😕

[@sofiacastro499]

honestly, after listening to this episode i’m unsubscribing from all her channels

[@smcms12]

No hate intended with this comment just another perspective to add to the conversation :) My sister passed away 4 years ago from a drug overdose and if I were to hear someone call her a drug addict I would feel a little sad and offended. I think the off-putting part of the podcast for me was when Erik said “you are Rue” and Colleen said “ok so I’m a drug addict.” Erik was right to say there are more layers to her character. People with drug addiction are not drug-addicts- they are sisters, brothers, moms, dads, friends, and human beings. I love Colleen, just wanted to point out the language choice and how a small change to the way things are phrased makes a huge difference! :)

[@MySeasideRendezvous]

I’m so sorry for your loss 💜

[@smcms12]

@@MySeasideRendezvous thank you ❤️

[@supermom266]

I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. I really hope Colleen sees this comment. ❤

[@smcms12]

@@supermom266 thank you 💕

[@preppy2466]

I am so very sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how hard that must have been. You make a great point.

[@cstump2005]

This episode should be called “How sheltered can a woman in her 30’s still be in 2022” 😂 This was crazy to listen to! Erik’s experience is absolutely normal, then and now. You’re a great mama Colleen but please make sure Erik tells them the realities of life too!

[@MissSmartyPants1]

This entire episode is like so eye-opening for Colleen lol Like I am shocked that someone could grow up so sheltered like she did. Also, hearing that her mom signed her OUT of sex education, like organizations are FIGHTING for those classes, they literally prevent teenage pregnancy... everyone involved is shocked in this episode lol *Btw yellow school busses have AC/Heat/Radio, and are the best mode of transporting 50+ students to school everyday, they barely go over 40mph lol she acted like it is a race car or something lol*

[@Kaykay04822]

That’s why she doesn’t know that the word ‘menses’ is a real world. Her mom did her a huge disservice by allowing her to grow up ignorant.

[@letsgototoro3413]

She grew up fundie lite and her family do a great job at hiding how religious they are/were

[@AwesomeCat2012]

She maybe didn't have sex ed in school, but the way she talked about it, her mom DID explain sex to her. How much you wanna bet her friend who thought she got pregnant from cuddling did go through high school sex ed? And still didn't know how it works.

[@beatrice8853]

@@AwesomeCat2012 Christian conservative fundie parents don’t do a good job at explaining sex. They teach that you go to hell if you have premarital sex or masturbate.

[@annewatkins8864]

I don't think that's the message , and why is it your business how her parents raised her! She's for the better not worse! Teaching restraint to teenagers is not a bad thing. That's called living your child!!!! You teach ur children not to drink and drive . You also teach them the dangers of teenage sex and parties where young girls get raped. There's nothing wrong with teaching to respect your body and not let someone use you ,or for your child not to understand how sex is meant for mature minds and we believe in sex is meant to be a union spirituality., Not a drive on the highway drunk and high out of your mind.experience .

[@geopavon334]

Looking at the comments Colleen is going to be so traumatized next podcast lol

[@annewatkins8864]

She's stronger than u think. Lol

[@mariagrodriguez199]

She’s always worried about being canceled, I agree with you. I’m sure she will address it next episode.

[@OppositeofHATE7]

I might have to skip 2 eps in a row then cuz I can't have her guilty crying either lol

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

@@OppositeofHATE7 lmaooooo guilty crying

[@geopavon334]

@@annewatkins8864 I don't think she is weak, I think she will be traumatized because I don't think she expected to high-schools now being so similar to euphoria

[@cicijones4016]

I just graduated highschool in a small town like Erik and I can definitely say euphoria is similar to highschool today I think it’s more of a small town thing tho. Lots of sex, LOTS Colleen I’m so sorry lol. And lots of drugs so many kids got suspended for bringing them to school :(

[@heatherbillpotter1266]

True

[@nessa1608]

Spot on true

[@aleesiauh]

Same. The cops actually had constant locker raids at my school. People got arrested every damn time too.

[@bethschneider5223]

Me to I graduated 1978. Nothings changed. Lol

[@bailey8680]

There were so many drug searches at my middle school I was so innocent lol I didn’t know why we had to clap our shoes in the hallway

[@FrizziExRose]

Colleen: I'm not a jealous person Also Colleen: *loudly judging Erik's high school sex life 🤣🤣🤣

[@alyssatyree7271]

Being a Drug Addict doesn’t make you any less of a person. All circumstances are unique, addiction to drugs and alcohol are classified as mental illnesses’. Similar to the way depression and post traumatic stress syndrome are classified as mental illnesses’.

[@TLK9419]

Also dermatillomania

[@paddycakes.]

This comment gives me hope for humanity, thank you and love to you and your family

[@jordanscott2482]

As a member of the class of 2020 who attended high school in California, I can say Euphoria is insanely accurate.

[@Akeswill]

Wow really that’s crazy!

[@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

Its accurate for you and yours. Humble yourself, dont flex this.

[@sierracindrell5775]

I graduated in 2003 in a very small town, and it’s insanely accurate for back then too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@zozodioz]

Really?? Omg I'm glad in don't live in the USA lmao

[@Raindropsundropgumdrop]

@@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy why are you so pressed they were stating facts, not flexing.

[@jackie0926]

Gonna have to agree with Erik with the Euphoria thing... maybe not to the extreme extent but when i went to high school and graduated back in 2017--- i was like "holy crap TV didnt lie". but its different for everyone. i just happened to be in a role that saw that side of things. Partying, Drugs, sex, alcohol, (even in class) was a big thing. But there were those people, who were just simply naive and innocent, who didnt know or werent involved.

[@bellabean8554]

i graduated in 2020 & at my high school people used to put vodka mixed with gatorade and bring it with them to class. i went to parties and saw small groups of people sneak off into the bathroom with coke, saw and a few times participated in the party hookup scene. euphoria isn’t too unrealistic, the only unrealistic part is the aesthetics

[@ElevenDrops]

Exactly, people either didn't know or weren't involved. But yea, definitely drinking during class and taking shrooms & acid before you go to school. Plenty of weed. This was definitely a thing. Also, lots of people hooked up at parties. All. The. Time. No one cared, everyone was wasted and girls were not shy by any means. I think my town it was pretty average to lose your virginity at 15-16. Graduated '08.

[@Alltooamanda]

I graduated in 2017 too! I have to agree. A guy in my class was drunk at 9am and ended up throwing up everywhere in the middle of class!!!!

[@gurjy0t]

yea, its not as extreme, but everything else is really similar.

[@katharinethiery1312]

Yeah as super sheltered highschooler this is all wild (class of 2015)

[@413myranda]

we all have to thank erik for his patience

[@greenjeans7504]

The man is a saint.

[@kaitlynmarie3527]

Colleen saying "just say no" is so crazy lol, it does show how privileged and sheltered she grew up to be able to say "abstinence just say no" as if that's realistic for high schoolers lol

[@mayaseaver6448]

not to mention, a lot of people don’t even take “No” for an answer

[@everythingtv4875]

that’s why she laughed after she said it insinuating it was a JOKE istg yall r so sensetive

[@MyAverageVlog]

My god it was a joke

[@dean9824]

Man it's crazy to see how patient Erik with is Colleen. From the bathroom mats discourse to the Euphoria debate, whenever she interjects, he always let her talk over him so she can drive her point home. This is obviously no hate to Colleen - I really love her. I have ADHD too and I catch myself being as disruptive in conversations like she is, so her podcasts are always a good reality check for me. So good lord, I wish I'll have a partner with Erik's patience.

[@julieortega7023]

For real idk how he deals with her

[@Kaykay04822]

It’s not her ADHD, it’s her raging narcissism and entitlement. ADHD doesn’t explain away her judge mental attitude towards everything she doesn’t understand. Which is a lot.

[@haley1750]

That’s why I love their love for each other!

[@MultiCheeseme]

Sure and I also like how patient Colleen is with Erik. He's not without fault. He literally got avocado all over the floor lol.

[@Linaa-01]

I grew up in a big city in California class of 2019, Euphoria is pretty accurate and Colleen’s experience is definitely rare.

[@myaharrell9625]

Agreed

[@jessirae757]

Yeah agreed

[@Mlee03]

Wasn’t she homeschooled? Lol

[@dreannalebrun]

@@Mlee03 not in high school but before that she was

[@TTPDforevertv]

Yupp true

[@jessicachow4431]

Hahahaahhaa Coleen saying she can’t believe people hooked up during parties is hilarious because I’m her age and everyone I know has done that 😂😂

[@dustmite723]

That was the point of parties lol

[@emilymildner]

I’ve never heard of that and I’m out of high school!

[@eregemacis]

Colleen, I grew up in SB too. SBHS ‘99. You were extremely sheltered. Our experience was VERY similar to Euphoria. Everyone was getting high (mostly pot and acid but lots of X and nos and speed too). Huge house parties, so much sex (even and especially the theater kids!). I think you were just VERY overprotected.

[@outoftheklosset]

Right?! Lol 😂

[@ThatLaurenThing]

Oh hey!! I also grew up in SB and went to Colleen’s high school (SMHS in 2014), and my experience was NOTHING close to Euphoria. I think it depends on your social circle, but I also didn’t really hear about anyone doing drugs/drinking.

[@galilaya42]

@@ThatLaurenThing There is no HS where kids haven't been doing drugs and having sex. It's more common today than when I was in HS early 80's. But its been going on long before my time. Of course there's always groups who don't do drugs or have sex but I'd bet most don't make it out of HS without at least some experience with one or the other.

[@ThatLaurenThing]

@@galilaya42 oh yeah, I’m aware. But I do think that you can go through an average public high school and have a totally clean experience, again, just depending on your social group. We knew that stuff was probably around but we never saw it.

[@beatrice8853]

@@ThatLaurenThing was it a religious high school?

[@krystalcrompton8339]

Erik is a very very patient man, I love Colleen however in this podcast she is showing how sheltered and privileged she was growing up. You were so sheltered you clearly did not have those experiences. Euphoria is super realistic especially in this day and age aswell. The parties I went to in highschool, the drugs and yes teenagers having sex. It is something that 100% happens. Yes it can depend on your friend group but in smaller towns everyone tends to frequent the same parties. I didn't partake in any of it but I did see alot of things. I think you need to listen to Erik and give him the same consideration he gives you because he is way more patient towards you than you are to him, don't be so quick to shut other opinions down...no hate just observation.

[@tessmurray8218]

!!!!!

[@valarya]

well said. he is always so patient with her experiences and stories and she just dismisses him often.

[@alyssa9899]

relax.

[@hailzk]

10000% agree with this one.

[@emilymildner]

I’m sorry but when did she shut Erik down?? There wasn’t a point in this podcast where Colleen was being judgmental. She was simply sharing her experience, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

[@mayaschmidt5924]

watch rachel’s podcast too, they both were raised so sheltered, like in a scary, detached from reality way.

[@beatrice8853]

I truly thought she was an ex cult member or something. It’s heartbreaking to see her brother raising his kids the same way

[@annewatkins8864]

@@beatrice8853 He's not dad , he's happy . I support him teaching his children the way he is.

[@annewatkins8864]

He's not sad, don't be sad for them. Far as I can see their not a cult. I don't know why u think that

[@Vendelaz]

Scarily close to how Chris and Jess are raising their kids rn too

[@cs7807]

I know I don’t watch their channel but from clips I’ve always noticed how young the kids act compared to their ages?

[@Ylimehawk]

The themes presented in Euphoria, things like sex, drinking, drugs, and addiction, are incredibly common in high school. In real life, it obviously isn't so cinematic with the aesthetically pleasing parties and the amazing outfits and makeup, but the sex and drinking and drug use are 100% realistic. Teens often have bad decision-making skills and will experiment with reckless behavior. I just think Colleen was sheltered, which isn't a bad thing, just a different experience from the "norm". Edit: I’d also like to add the traumatic things that individual characters go through BEYOND the sex and substance use are incredibly relatable. Cassie being objectified by boys/men and not understanding her worth beyond her sexuality. Maddy being a victim in an abusive relationship. Rue’s addiction. Nate’s toxic masculinity. Parents passing away or abandoning the family. Every viewer can relate to someone.

[@wishful1thinker]

Yes to this. It's been over 10 years since I was in high school and it was like this even then.

[@jadaaurie7696]

Yep Colleen was 100% sheltered.

[@heatherbillpotter1266]

It was like this in 1994 to 1998 when I was in high school

[@melisa711]

That isnt happening in my school or in any school in my country tho

[@arianamitchell7050]

@@wishful1thinker agree. everyone i think can relate to one or multiple characters in the show. i was gia w a little bit of cassie w how i acted around boys i liked. i can agree w erik how seeing it can stir some anxiety for the future

[@carolinitaaa]

Colleen’s school experience sounds hella privileged I CANNOT LMAO…Disneyland…charter buses…NEVER TOOK A SCHOOL BUS? Sis 😭

[@mysticmushroom4198]

Yet she says sometimes that she grew up in poverty. I doubt it colleen, your parents were probably just frugal

[@carolinitaaa]

I can understand that she hasn’t taken a school bus because she was homeschooled, but I felt some type of way that she made them seem gross and dangerous. The majority of people ride yellow buses and that’s okay!

[@baby5968]

@@carolinitaaa she was only home schooled for a few years

[@EllenBeal]

@@carolinitaaa she was only homeschooled in middle school

[@annewatkins8864]

I support Collins view ,she's a genius. She is a rare jewel ,polished by by good godly parents. I also love Eric He needs her for a different perspective. He loves her and appreciates her values .. She's just having fun with it. She's is allowed to free speach. I'm sorry if u are a drug addict or had sex while on drugs. I hope u are doing better. I love y'all and so does Colleen. it's not her fault if you do drugs ,it's sad . I hope the best for u . Much love Lay off her. I love her and Eric together . He understands her ,that all that counts .

[@dianacarolina6923]

Euphoria is realistic and remember just because it doesn't happen to you it doesn't mean it doesn't exist and if you are a teenager in a tough situation you are not alone it gets better.

[@MandiVincent]

Also, abstinence doesn’t work. Education is the way to prevent teen pregnancy. Sex isn’t taboo and making it a taboo topic is super dangerous. It makes me so uncomfortable when she uses cutesy words for body parts. I hope they’ve taught Flynn his anatomy, the body is not shameful.

[@Raindropsundropgumdrop]

Surprisingly it seems she has, I watched something of theirs recently where it was mentioned that he said something about how many penises a cow had when referring to the udders lmao

[@OG_Orly_OG]

@@Raindropsundropgumdrop it could’ve been Erik rephrasing to be funny. he often does that with stuff Flynn says

[@letycherra7485]

Colleen acted so ignorant this entire episode… also interrupted Erik all the time to say the stupidest things . And the way she talked about drug addiction was absolutely disgusting . Colleen needs a reality check

[@annewatkins8864]

I think you do. I agree with Colleen . She has the right to be herself .she has the right to talk about how she feels . I like her views . I love her morals on sex on tv. Love u Colleen You don't need to change . You can't please everybody

[@Raindropsundropgumdrop]

@@annewatkins8864 Are you the leader of a Colleen cult? Asking because you have the time to spam paragraphs on every single comment praising Colleen like she is god and can do no wrong.

[@emilythorne4119]

@@annewatkins8864 she has the right to be herself and talk about how she feels but she shouldn't be judging or talking down about people with mental disorders (since addiction is literally a mental disorder). This isn't hate, I love Colleen but everyone has flaws that they can work on and her naivety and accidental judgment are just some of her flaws that were shown in this video.

[@letycherra7485]

This is coming from a fan , I love her videos , love watching her babies but omfg the amount of ignorance that came out of her mouth , a woman like her with the platform she has saying that amount of bs is just sad to watch. Tbh

[@danaezevely4150]

I usually enjoy this podcast, but I just can’t make it through this episode. Colleen: asks Eric a question Eric: Starts to answer Colleen: interrupts Every. Single. Time.

[@nana____fox]

You mean, Every. Single. Podcast.

[@emilydiehl8289]

I know that she is not on her ADHD medication because she is breastfeeding and she wasn’t on her medication when she was pregnant too. So probably majority of this podcast’s existence, she hasn’t had her ADHD medicine which makes the interruption worse. She said that in her vlogs

[@cymill7128]

It's insufferable to say the least. Also the dismissing and gaslighting...yikes.

[@paulinalosch3105]

that is a very raging adhd symptom and shes been off her meds due to the twins

[@hyperactivejaz]

@@cymill7128 it’s more likely because of her ADHD. Unfortunately that is a common symptom. Especially with family members or spouse who may be used to it.

[@ohhboy11]

All erik does is lie to colleen about his real experience growing up cause she had the most rare rated g upbringing and she judges everything he and the rest of the world did growing up.

[@user-py2fx5wp1o]

I agree. The fact that she knows nothing about his high school experience and they’re married is so odd to me. Like you said Erik probably withholds a lot of his hs experiences from Colleen so she won’t judge him.

[@iluvzurara2]

He’s a big boy? Maybe he should tell her? The coddling of Erik in this entire comment section is APPALLINGGG

[@Itszahia]

@@iluvzurara2 true he should be able to stand his ground and call Colleen out. He gives up too easily since Colleen constantly interrupts him or says his experiences are not real.

[@kaylynnanne]

if i was having the euphoria convo with colleen i think i’d have to leave. hyper frustrating!

[@cay0703]

i love colleen and have for years, but it was really sad to hear her talk so harshly about the topic of drug addiction. i understand there was probably no mal intent, but it is a very serious topic that so many people struggle with and just throwing around the term "drug addict" so nonchalantly was really disappointing. a lot of people can say the exact same thing about colleen's experience, how they were not sheltered and weren't exposed to sex drugs and alcohol at such a young age. but just because someone didn't experience it first hand does not mean it is not prevalent. Euphoria really does portray how high school is for a lot of people. it is definitely romanticized to an extent because it is tv, but there is so much more to the show and especially the lead character Rue. there is trauma, grief, self reflection. all things that are very real and very serious in real life. i love colleen and respect her greatly, just with a platform like she has i feel like having more empathy for topics like this is VERY important. i hope anyone watching who is struggling or knows someone struggling with addiction doesn't feel any less of a person, especially with the attitude and stigmas about it already.

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

this👏🏻

[@annewatkins8864]

I am sorry u have hd drug problems, . Colleen was just being funny. She is a comedian. She has the right to say anything that's true. You are trying to control her. Leave her alone!!! This is absurd If u have a drug problem and have a sexual problem.or addiction . Then consider that maybe because if her parents religious view a ND love for protecting children works . She is proof of that . You are criticizing someone else's morals. That's prejudice. The proof faith works is on you tube. No one has a perfect childhood. She has a lot to be thankful for. Most people are jealous.of the rewards of being a good person. Instead of criticizing her, why don't you go read the bible . It might help u with understanding the rules of love and rewards. It can't hurt.Maybe u will get healing from being so sensitive.

[@cay0703]

@@annewatkins8864 this is a very hurtful reply and i am sorry you don’t understand why.

[@user-rr2ip3sb4d]

@@annewatkins8864 Not you going around white-knighting on every comment. People can call out her behavior and still like her as a person.

[@annewatkins8864]

Hi , I appreciate your comments. I understand about being hurt by social stigmas. I was bullied alot. I stand up for u . I don't think Colleen meant to stigmatize anyone. Maybe she will talk about it. Yes she has had opportunities and experienced a good family life.. Not all get that family experience. I hope she will addresse it . I have not seen this show . she was commenting on a character.

[@celiamjones029]

ok but the part where she's freaking out and judging erik for having sex in high school???? colleen does not realize how normal eriks experience was. wild.

[@Hayeslifemexico]

She’s just jealous lmao, she’s that type of person

[@maryrush4540]

she wasn’t freaking out and judging him, watch it again. she was just surprised because she was very sheltered never experienced that.

[@vell2994]

👁️👁️ ya right

[@celiamjones029]

@@JustmeKelliC look how uncomfy she is tho, like she's doing it as a joke and is still so uncomfortable talking ab her or people around her even POSSIBLY having sex. weird considering she's been married twice and has had 3 pregnancies. i hope she becomes more comfortable in that area of her life. no one deserves to carry around that deep rooted conservative guilt

[@celiamjones029]

@@maryrush4540 she absolutely was judging him. she kept pushing him to say whether he had or hadnt then when he implied that he did she was horrified. she just hasnt fully processed that christian guilt mindset i guess

[@emilynelson9653]

Colleen, chill with saying “drug addicts” in such a shitty, judgmental tone. Not everyone grew up in an extremely isolated and sheltered family environment like Ballinger children do. Experimentation happens, and although addiction is a huge issue, it is not a moral failing.

[@mysticmushroom4198]

Plus Rue's whole storyline is about how she self medicates because she's been struggling with mental health issues since she was little. That's why a lot of people struggling with addiction turn to drugs, because they're desperate. Like Erik said, there's more to the character than just being addicted to drugs. Honestly I don't understand how she could have watched Euphoria and not come out of it with high amounts of empathy and sympathy for Rue

[@annewatkins8864]

Well maybe don't experiment , just say no

[@mollyelizabeth9829]

@@annewatkins8864 sorry but things happen. A lot of teenagers feel they have no other choice. Like it could be their only escape from real life. Plus peer pressure and from my experience of peer pressure no matter how much I said no or walked away it was never enough.

[@annewatkins8864]

@@mollyelizabeth9829 Hi Elizabeth. Thank u for sharing . I appreciate how awful that must have been I don't know your age. Are u doing ok now? Are u a fan of colleens?

[@annewatkins8864]

Did u have anyone in your life u could trust and open up too? Dies not sound like it. I hope u do now. No one is judging you. You deserved better

[@Lovepolish777]

How do you not know yellow busses still exist? I'm blown away.

[@Em-is9kc]

Like I'm on the other side of the world where we don't have them and I know they're a thing lol

[@citylovexoxo]

Because she never leaves her house

[@3Sofaa]

I mean, Colleen was also shocked that bookstores are still a thing just because she doesn't read, so...

[@Alomind8]

I think she does. She plays up the innocent I don’t get it act on this podcast which is usually just whatever but a total miss on this episode. I feel like Erik was low key cringing honestly. Hoping she learns from the feedback and doesn’t just think people are being mean for no reason

[@arianamitchell7050]

@@Alomind8 ik ppl are being very patronizing and im scared she’s just gonna think it’s mindless hate. i hope she learns more about addicts and learns to talk about them in a more sensitive light since it’s a very big sore spot for a lot of ppl

[@valvilla1006]

Erik is sooo patient 😂 through the interruptions and sarcasm he stays calm and explains his points through. 🙌🏼 Colleen I love you but pls just listen a little more! Your experience doesn’t reflect everyone else’s experience.

[@dustmite723]

I’d be can get a full sentence out lol

[@assmasher6929]

Agreed

[@bricheese473]

Not speaking for Colleen at all, but when I’m super tired my adhd symptoms get so much worse and it’s hard not to interrupt people😞. So sometimes it’s not as easy as ‘just listening a little more’

[@letycherra7485]

I hate how she cuts him off every second to say the stupidest things ever

[@Nyikitova]

He never really listens to Erik in these episodes in general…

[@sarahmccloy5536]

Please just let the man talk! And don’t tell him he’s wrong or lying if he has a different experience of opinion than you!

[@morganolivia4283]

Omg yes!!!

[@lindz6214]

She says she can’t control her interruptions because of ADHD and she’s not on meds right now, but I’ve seen her control herself with Flynn and let him talk all the time. Seems like she feels she’s allowed to talk over Erik and he has to take it because they are married. Esp if their opinions differ. This was a hard one to watch.

[@willot0722]

Can you just copy and paste this on the comments of every podcast? lol it always applies. This was brutal to listen to because of her.

[@halensav]

@@lindz6214 I'm an adult woman with ADHD as well and yes, when I don't take my meds, it can be very difficult to control my urge to interrupt, especially around my partner. But it's not IMPOSSIBLE or something that we're incapable of. it just takes a concerted effort, something Colleen doesn't seem interested in.

[@mayaschmidt5924]

Colleen, it kind of put a bad taste in my mouth the way you talk about addicts. You seem to be very sheltered and have been so lucky to never have to experience the trauma that the euphoria characters have gone through but it is literally a disease. Over 2% of the population are addicts, you know that 2% of the population also has green eyes? That’s around 32 million people. I wish you and your family would be more open to foreign situation have more empathy- i’ve watched you since I was 12 (i’m 21 now) and this is the first time i’ve felt kinda sad watching you :(

[@tashansofwa2426]

You can not take drugs though. I don’t know how it’s a disease when it’s 100% preventable.

[@Em-is9kc]

@@tashansofwa2426 if you had the addictive personality traits you'd understand.

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

@@tashansofwa2426 that’s extremely insensitive and ignorant to say. as a public health worker here, drug addiction is not a choice and people die from it every day. that is a privileged way to think and is very insensitive to people who are struggling.

[@annewatkins8864]

Listen listen listen , A good role model is rare . Why does it offend you that some peoeple don't do drugs because they know it's bad and stupid. When people have a bad home life or there is a addiction , it sometimes runs in a family Very sad. We all have something we need help with . It's a good thing to say no ,to anything that will hurt your life. If the light is bright , do u hate it. Don't hate the messenger. Hope u are having sucess with your problems. There insight are helpful. If u don't like it , don't watch. Say sorry ,Colleen if necessary. That's there business . There so funny. Everyone crazy sometimes .

[@abbyolivia]

Ignorant * not sheltered

[@scarredlove]

Unfortunately, Colleen is a little naive on the high school front. I graduated in 2006. Drugs, sex, and alcohol were EXTREMELY prevalent in my school. Euphoria is incredibly accurate about the high school experience. Are some instances a little more intense and unrealistic? Yes. But it’s a TV show. The overall themes of heavy drug use, heavy alcohol use, figuring out relationships and sexual identity, and lots of sex are all relatable experiences for many high schoolers/college kids. Colleen grew up sheltered, and therefore likely was also surrounded by fairly sheltered good kids. That is definitely not the experience of most high schoolers. Also, I have to agree that when you guys referred to Rue as “a drug addict” you guys seemed pretty judgmental. You’re missing an opportunity for a larger, more nuanced conversation. I get you guys are tired and exhausted, but that’s a topic that deserves a little more thoughtfulness when discussed. People don’t wake up one day and choose to become an addict.

[@Leiloke]

This was a hard episode to watch. I've always gotten the impression Colleen grew up sheltered but this opened my eyes to just how much. I can understand not recognizing the behaviors others outside of your friend group in school were engaging in, but other things that were said made me just deeply uncomfortable. Colleen has always projected this image of being more progressive than her upbringing, so maybe she just has a lot to learn, but I hope she can reflect on her views about addiction and abstinence-only sex education.

[@tinkbella450]

I appreciated that Erik said something along the lines of “okay, I think she has more layers to her personality than just struggling with drugs” but I wish they’d been able to delve deeper. All in all I think this will be an eye opening moment for Colleen and honestly, I’m hoping that this is a turning point for her in recognizing her privilege!!

[@iluvzurara2]

I’m sorry but drugs are possibly most prevalent in the MOST privileged institutions. They are also prevalent in not so privileged places of course but i promise you they are also there in extremely well off places… likely even moreso. So no I don’t necessarily think that her being “naive” shows her privilege. She was simply not around drugs. Neither was I (and I’m not wealthy by any means).

[@tinkbella450]

@@iluvzurara2 it’s important to be specific about the situation. More wealthy places are very likely to have more drug users, rich kids that can afford more expensive, hard drugs. Places that aren’t as wealthy are more likely to have dealing and laundering of those drugs and cheaper drugs. Systemically, though drugs are prevalent everywhere, the situation is always worse in schools in poorer Black and Brown neighborhoods.

[@teagannovak3120]

She needs to stop interrupting him. It happens in other episodes, but this episode is beyond irritating (I'm aware that it's something she has been trying to work on). And the Euphoria conversation really got me going because not only did she keep interrupting him, but she acts as though her experience in high-school is the "correct" experience. It almost feels like she is shaming Erik. This was a whole different side of her that I really really don't like- and I watch ALL of her videos (and Miranda's too). I LOVE her and her entire family so much. This was a lot to handle 😕

[@rocket8_8]

She has ADHD and she hasnt been taking her medication since she has been breastfeeding- she has talked about it before and she feels very bad but its mainly because of her ADHD

[@KittyBeeViolinT]

Erik: not Euphoria amounts of sex Colleen: I’m just learning you had Euphoria amounts of sex 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sharonmitchell3237]

Colleen - that’s called ✨religious trauma✨

[@kristathornburg9250]

🙌🏽 this

[@universalxharmony_3511]

@@JustmeKelliC hate to tell you but this video was made at least ten years ago

[@8happyperson]

not necessarily, some people have similar experiences because thats just their personality type and they aren't religious at all.

[@honeybgood9691]

@@universalxharmony_3511 Time does not excuse bad behaviour, only personal acknowledgement and change.

[@Goobian]

I haven't watched this whole video yet but someone that didn't celebrate Halloween because of religion, is home schooled, and wasn't allowed to read Harry Potter I think Colleen downplays how sheltered and restrictive her childhood was. On Tiktok she said when she was about 13 she loved the song I got High and had no clue it was about pot.

[@dean9824]

I am definitely not of place to tell Colleen how she should parent her kids, as she knows what's best for her kids more than anyone else. But I really hope that when her kids enter teenhood, she enters it with them with an open mindset, free from any expectations and assumptions shaped by her incredibly sheltered past. Otherwise she's going to be in absolute shock getting a reality check.

[@mayaseaver6448]

i thought the same thing! i hope her kids never have to struggle with any of the topics in euphoria, i don’t think she’d even know where to begin with handling it. she spoke with such disgust when she said drug addicts. at least erik was expressing some concern for that being a possibility in the future. he seems more grounded in reality… she doesn’t even know that yellow school buses are still a thing! LOL

[@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

Our children are our best teachers

[@bobbiejopatten7147]

I thought the same thing

[@OG_Orly_OG]

she can’t even handle crying babies without having a mental breakdown and bringing up her depression these kids are gonna kill her well before she gets the chance to see their teen years. if she doesn’t kill all of them first that is. she’s legitimately crazy.

[@bdfwhhsb]

@@OG_Orly_OG ok that’s slightly exaggerated. She is a good mom, motherhood is a hard experience!

[@Mlee03]

They need a chess timer or sharing stick so Colleen can’t talk over lol

[@twinityy]

lol this is soooo true it irks me how she interrupts erik all the time lol

[@MissSmartyPants1]

Lmao!! This is a great suggestion xD like Colleen take a breath and let him speak 😂

[@SolErinn]

I think this is the first time I’ve ever commented on any KZbin video, but I feel compelled to here. Colleen I have complete compassion for the way you grew up and the way it shaped your experiences and perspectives, but I can assure you it’s certainly not the norm. I think it’s important to remember that just because you haven’t had the same experiences you shouldn’t disregard the pervasiveness of things like sex, drugs and crime (and their effects) in the lives of teenagers. It can be quite hurtful to people to feel like their life circumstances are being invalidated. I know you would never do this intentionally, but I think you’re coming at this from quite a narrow world view. I don’t fault you for this but, perhaps take this into consideration next time you talk about stuff like this. Edit: Let’s stick with peace and love guys. Expressing opposition to opinions and ideas is one thing, but degrading someone as a person for holding the views they do is never productive.

[@annewatkins8864]

Dear Shawnee , Why are you offended? She is sharing her life experience. She had parents that were involved and wanted her to have a life free of suffering from the consequences of teenage sex , drugs and harm. I'm sorry u had a the opposite experience, In which u call normal. Not everyone has the same experiences as a teenager. I value the way her parents protected her by educating her and gave her a healthy lifestyle. I hope your life is good now. I understand her, I was raised like her. Her parentsvwrre very equipped to raise children to have a strong moral compass. I pray tha u can appreciate that ,I pray u can have joy in your life , I pray for gods protection, and peace . We love Colleen

[@M_K_M_K_M_K]

@@annewatkins8864 Ummm… okay? And why are you offended again? If the majority of people is saying one thing, try to listen. Praying is great, but it does not negate the need for you to be a person that actually listens, and does something to help.

[@adawson1221]

This was easily the most respectful and constructive comment I’ve seen on this video. Honestly, props to you.

[@km1117]

love this comment. totally agree and very respectful

[@mayaseaver6448]

really amazing how we’re supposed to believe colleen ate rainbows and sunshine, went to Disney in high school and took charter buses for field trips, but she won’t even believe her own husbands experience with underage drinking, drugs, and sex in high school. weird….

[@jazmynekeating1634]

Colleen, please get a grip. It’s been clear from past episodes how sheltered your upbringing was. Every time Erik says something about his NORMAL teenage experience, you constantly question it and say how it’s not normal. There are people having sex and struggling with addiction in probably every high school. Euphoria is not far off, like Erik had said. Just because you didn’t know anyone, doesn’t mean it’s not true. I’ve watched your videos for years, but that discussion rubbed me (and many others) the wrong way. Also, I’m not sure if you were, but it seems like you were kind of preaching abstinence. We should be preaching safe and consensual sex. As long as Erik was consenting, who cares if he had sex in high school? It’s pretty normal. Another thing, the tone you had when you said “drug addicts” seemed very judgey. I’m sure you have so many follows who have or are currently struggling with substance abuse…

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

👏🏻

[@abbyolivia]

Nailed it

[@twinityy]

perfectly said !!! i almost couldn’t finish the episode as a person who struggles with addiction the way she said drug addicts just was … very judgy lol

[@avagruchacz4484]

Erik is right....also please dont be judgmental of drug addicts!

[@maryrush4540]

when was she judgemental

[@musiccismylifee]

I was pretty sheltered and “straight edge” in high school so my experience was mild too. Little constructive criticism, and I really want to approach this in a way that is not at all accusatory. I love you both a lot. But it may be worth being more sensitive and introspective about your views on people with addiction and especially using the word “addicts” in such a negative light

[@rosyellowbird]

yes, the aggression behind colleen saying drug addict made me deeply uncomfortable

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

i agree with this. just because one’s experience isn’t similar to someone else’s, it doesn’t mean that it’s not very real and rampant and deserves sensitivity.

[@meghanjosephine]

this… thank you

[@penelopelee758]

yeah honestly i love colleen but i hope that these comments will enlighten her and encourage her to do some research about addiction. i’m pretty disappointed and honestly am probably going to step back from her channel for a bit….

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

@@penelopelee758 I absolutely adore her and I know that she means no harm. I do think she is obviously very privileged and has been sheltered her whole life and she doesn’t always realize the impact of her words. I know her heart is in the right place; she just really needs to be careful when talking about certain topics and should be more open to other people’s life experiences and not act appalled if she hasn’t experienced those things. Euphoria covers extremely sensitive topics and should be talked about in a way that is sensitive and respectful to all.

[@ericac4842]

I adore you Colleen & I dont mean any disrespect but you were beyond sheltered growing up!!!! I can definitely relate to Erik, we used to steal cigarette's & alcohol from are parents & go hang out by a fire in the woods.

[@marcelaboudreau106]

As Colleen says “WHO WOULD HAVE SEX AT PARTIES WHILE YOUR FRIENDS ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL”.. Erik’s eyes “..me” 😂😂😂😂

[@MadeInUkraine7]

That comment was so bizzare. Like you'd be lucky to have a wall between you and other people! lol Usually it's in the same room different beds or in the same car.

[@iluvzurara2]

@@foolgazer not telling ppl doesn’t mean your embarrassed by it. And telling ppl doesn’t mean you aren’t. It’s clearly for social status purposes

[@iluvzurara2]

@@MadeInUkraine7 the comment is bizarre but being lucky to have a wall to have sex isn’t bizarre? Between consenting adults is one thing however with hs children yes it’s absolutely bizarre.

[@foolgazer]

@@iluvzurara2 I was referring to how colleen was showing embarrassment and shyness over sex, and how my experience was not like that. It is not "clearly" for social status purposes just as not wanting to have sex when other people are in the next room is not clearly only due to embarassment.

[@iluvzurara2]

@@foolgazer a guy “rushing out to tell everybody” he just had sex with you isn’t for social status purposes? Girl ok 👀🤣

[@lindz6214]

As parents and adults we can’t shame people for their experiences. Giving them education and tools to be safe is all we can do. Granted Colleen has never parented teenagers, and you’ll never truly understand until you’re in it, but I think a lot of her commentary was from how she was raised. I grew up Christian and there is shame in sexuality or sexual acts of any kind. My mom also took me out of sex Ed. I’m mad about that. I don’t want that for my kids. I want them to come to me with questions and concerns. We give them condoms for when they decide they are ready. They don’t have to ask. When you have teens, you’re more of a guidance counselor for them. You don’t discipline and punish for their choices. Talk about consequences and also help them get through them: We teach them how to be safe. And if they choose to experiment, which they will, like the majority of all teenagers do, they should never fear shame. I really didn’t enjoy every time she said “LOVEEEEEEY” when Erik was hinting at being sexual as a teenager. He’s not bad or wrong for that. That was his journey. Our bodies are MEANT to want to have sex. I’ll never be mad if I find a condom in my kids rooms. I’d be thankful they are being safe, but we would have to about the correct way to discard them and how that is also a safety issue lol! How sexual someone is, does not mean how good or bad they are as a person. Ever.

[@mayaseaver6448]

perfectly said!!! i don’t think anyone should be trying to preach abstinence or the “just say no!” mentality in 2022 - whether or not it was a ‘joke’ … sometimes people won’t take no for an answer anyway. i really hope she learns something from these comments, including how to say the word “sex” in front of her own husband without feeling internally shameful.

[@WyattRantz]

Thank you for telling her what’s wrong without shaming her. This was the right way to say it.

[@nicola7526]

colleen preaching about abstinence... like really? teenagers are going to have sex, simply telling them not to would just make them go behind adult's backs and have sex in unsafe, secretive ways. erik really has the patience of a saint in this episode because i dont know if i couldve kept a straight face during that part.

[@Danielle-ur1us]

Just thinking about this objectively… but whats wrong with her preaching about abstinence? Just as you can preach about safe sex, abstinence is just an option that she is entitled to preach about. To just not do it at all.

[@rachels2560]

Considering she herself doesn't practice safe sex, she's got a lot of nerve. Between Flynn and the twins, how many pregnancy scares did she have? How many times did she talk about taking pregnancy tests and being terrified because she didn't want to ever be pregnant again? Clearly she wasn't being abstinent OR taking the steps to protect herself. She's a piece of work.

[@elizabethmarie8069]

Euphoria is definitely accurate to high school. I was a choir kid and theater kid too so that wasn’t my personal experience, but it was definitely going on around me.

[@amandamonacoschaub8101]

Eric looking at the camera when Colleen asked if that amount of sex in high school is normal… 🤣🤣🤣

[@paytongirard8744]

Right!!!

[@melissacoviello2886]

I think it’s accurate. But I also was a teenage alcoholic. Today I celebrate 27 years of sobriety. I think the show is so important.

[@elsie26]

proud of you 💕

[@user-cs9kr2wl6n]

Aw thats amazing congrats☺❤

[@jengraham1820]

I very rarely comment on videos and do like watching Colleen's vlogs, but ouch, the way she said drug addict with such disgust was real hard to watch. I admire Eric's patient response that there are more layers to the character, but sad that she even needs reminded that someone with a drug addiction is a whole person before the fact that they have an illness.

[@everythingtv4875]

i’m sorry but literally when did she say that? do u have the time stamp

[@kolibri7712]

i had the same feeling :/

[@kolibri7712]

@@everythingtv4875 19:30

[@everythingtv4875]

@@kolibri7712 i’m not trying to be insensetive and i get where ur coming from but she literally didn’t do anything wrong like she doesn’t deserve to be cancelled over that it’s pathetic

[@annasibert2958]

As a recovering addict I appreciate you saying that. It’s hard for some people to say that phrase without a negative connotation instead of an empathetic one. But I think it’s due to them simply being uneducated about it.

[@valeriekeenan5587]

Honestly this episode made me upset and realize how in the dark/sheltered colleen was raised. I feel as if its actually more rare to have colleens experience than it is to have an experience in Euphoria. All of us teens LOVE it because its so fucking true and real; makes up feel less alone. It almost felt as if she's shaming erick/ others for having that type of experience growing up. Because yes colleen, drugs, sex, pregnancy, they are all HUGE problem for High schoolers yes it may depend on the friendgroup but its real life; I know colleen is a good person but she really doesn't know how the real world works. It's so frustrating when older people don't understand, i hope when her kids grow up she can have open conversations instead of shaming.

[@britanyh99611]

I didn’t realize how sheltered Colleen was. Holy cow. 😯

[@Em-is9kc]

Both as a child and to this very day lol

[@mayaseaver6448]

fr ! she doesn’t even let erik finish talking about his experiences from that time in his life, and when she does she’s extremely judgmental and dismissive of his past because it’s not the same as hers.

[@fluteloops22]

She always has been! It’s hard to believe her parents are who we see today.

[@mayaseaver6448]

@@novelidea6939 yep!!! always the theatre kids!

[@fluteloops22]

@@novelidea6939 yep exactly right! I graduated in 1999.

[@emilybyrne0121]

This episode is a big yikes for colleen... goes to show how sheltered someone can be

[@caitydid1306]

If Erik started a series of vlogs called alone time I would 💯 watch every single one lol

[@mfp4523]

Ohhh no…..when Colleen said “to be near the bathroom” in the bus lol My jaw dropped. Let alone everything else said… Oh dear. I’m so sorry Colleen, this will be a bit of a wake up call.

[@hailzk]

I really hope Colleen addresses this podcast at a later date. I’m incredibly disappointed in how she acted here. She’s always been someone that I can count on to be super understanding but here it felt very judgmental on anyone who didn’t have such a privileged upbringing like she did. Her upbringing is far more unrealistic than euphoria. It’s rare. My high school was more mild and we still saw these types of things on a daily basis. To dismiss Erik’s experiences and almost make fun of it is very distressing when he politely listens to every word she has to say. Even with the sarcasm and accusatory tone.

[@maddygrace17]

Also imagine being so privileged that you literally don’t know yellow school buses still exist

[@AshleyVlach]

Hearing her say this was so confusing to me ???? Like you don’t know school buses still exist???

[@vivit2951]

I was thinking the same thing

[@saaldee]

I’m so uncomfortable with the way Colleen spoke about addiction.

[@reece8027]

Legit needs an apology.

[@mayaseaver6448]

@@reece8027 yep. as someone who found her after getting out of rehab and struggles with staying sober this was extremely upsetting

[@marieabrahams7669]

I have a hard time with how they talk about drug use- calling Rue an addict with such judgement. It’s a hard but important conversation that they are not taking seriously. Also, Rachel had an equally uninformed discussion about drugs on her podcast this week.

[@my_quiet_riot]

Well, Rachel is, Rachel. I've stopped following her ever since I watched her throw COVID precautions out the window, yet would preach about being cautious about COVID.

[@nataliasilvestri5999]

yeah exactly

[@reece8027]

Yup 👏🏻👏🏻

[@morganh9364]

Agreeeed

[@teagannovak3120]

Agreed- she said it with so much judgment. As if people suffering from drug addictions have no other defining characteristics. They are humans- with feelings and families and trauma.. Struggling, most of the time, to exist.

[@brynn1995]

Colleen even questioning if school busses are still a thing shows how privileged she is and doesn’t even know it. I put my kids on the bus everyday, in California.

[@wiwihoyos]

"you're Rue" "so, a drug addict" "she's more layered than that" EXACTLY

[@anaocampo5458]

Yes! When she said that it felt like someone punched me in my throat being someone who has struggled with drug addiction. I was so shocked that Colleen, the queen of mental health awareness, would reduce an entire characters value to their mental health disorder, it was just so out of place it was like I saw her mask fall off for a second.

[@wiwihoyos]

@@anaocampo5458 I know!!! I felt exactly the same :( it felt very disappointing because it seems like she just stands up for her own mental health issues but not everyone else's. I'm sorry you feel that way, just know you're doing great and I'm glad you're keep fighting 💕

[@satansmuffintop2884]

@@anaocampo5458 fuck dude. I felt the same way. I was so shocked to hear her say that! I was addicted to heroin in high school and struggled with my mental health and homelessness for years, I also have adhd like Colleen. And many people with adhd suffer from addictions, I thought colleen would know that... it felt like she would be disgusted by me and that all that I am are my past mistakes. (I will have 4 years clean this summer btw)

[@maddiewelch4100]

@@anaocampo5458 it was so upsetting to see her put someone in a box like that. I started watching this episode last week but had to stop because it was so triggering. I hope she says something and apologizes for the way she was talking about these things. :/

[@wiwihoyos]

@@satansmuffintop2884 congratulations!!! You're amazing💕

[@hiphippooo]

I think it’s more of a privilege check if you think Euphoria is WILDLY unrealistic. Especially drug addiction. A lot of the characters depicted in this are incredibly marginalized and I’m not saying this to shade Colleen but like, a lot of these are common experiences for these people. And I’m not talking about rich or poor. I’m talking marginalized in all intersections - race and gender being HUGE parts.

[@noname-un3xc]

no one: colleen: this is my relax let me talk (also talks through erik’s relax)

[@BabyKres09]

I grew up in the midwest, erik is right. Euphoria is not far off. The crazy amount of stories I have from that time in my life. Oh man. Colleen you had a very rare high school experience.

[@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

Imagine succumbing to peer pressure and being proud of that. I don’t get this flex at all.

[@EllenBeal]

@@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy how is this a flex

[@Raindropsundropgumdrop]

@@Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy no one is flexing get off your high horse and quit bullying people in the comments

[@reecedarlene]

So funny listening to Colleen say like, "I was a theater kid and a choir kid so I was boring". In my school, it was the band kids, choir kids, and theater kids that had the WORST reputation for being se*ual. Lots of after school time, lots of time with a lot of kids with only like 1 adult chaperone.

[@mayaseaver6448]

i would love to see colleen read all these comments about how she’s wrong about euphoria high school experience on the next episode

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

@@JustmeKelliC I know… that’s my issue with her. I love her but I really hope she doesn’t blame us for bullying her and try to make everyone feel bad for her saying the wrong things just to avoid being canceled. I hope she responds appropriately and actually feel bad for the impact of some of the stuff she said and not just guilt trip us for hating on her. Everyone is trying to help her and I hope she sees it that way and not react defensively and in a guilt-trippy way.

[@mayaseaver6448]

@@giuliacacciatore4765 i don’t think anything they spoke about in this podcast calls for her being cancelled or anything. i would just like her to acknowledge the fact that not everyone had such a privilege of being sheltered and homeschooled. her experience of childhood/teenage years being drug & sex-free is a very rare thing.

[@serangel26]

Lol she’ll just cry about it without addressing anything that was said

[@maddygrace17]

She’s just gonna say “you guys got SOOO mad at me”

[@b_fr123]

@@maddygrace17 and tell the viewers to relax😂

[@harper9823]

i agree with Erik on the accuracy of Euphoria. In highschool, I had to watch people die to opioids.. Sexual assault.. Messy parties. It is accurate, Colleen. Kids are much different now. I think you may just be a little biased because you had a very sheltered childhood. not saying it was all good. Love you two.

[@Linaa-01]

Sooo accurate it triggers me

[@harper9823]

@@Linaa-01 Yeah. I lost a parent to opioids, and Im with a recovering opioid addict since highschool. It is very triggering.

[@nessa1608]

At some point I think it’s worse now because of the huge amounts of pressure from society like I graduated from high school in 2019, I’m 21 now but looking back on my high school memories and comparing it to teens now in high school I mean they 100% even to the clothes they wear is different everyone just tries to look older. It’s crazyyyyy

[@harper9823]

@@nessa1608 Totally I graduated in 2018 and I can not imagine being in highschool or even middle school now. Gen Z (the younger part) has had to mature quickly. From school violence, to politics in class, to drugs and leaking pictures. I feel horrible for them.

[@Linaa-01]

@@harper9823 I’m sorry for your loss it’s not easy to deal with that kind of stuff. I’m currently dealing with my only parent using any and every substance she can get. Hang in there you’re never alone 🤍

[@baileygoodson7687]

For the euphoria debate: drug use is definitely jarringly common in high school now. Like i knew people addicted to opiates and using drugs far worse than weed. Sex unfortunately started really young around where I live too, I think the earliest someone lost their virginity was 12-13 and we had people pregnant in 8th grade. Unfortunately, I think it’s due to the lack of education schools give around topics like drugs, alcohol and sex. I think because it’s considered “taboo” to talk about with children because they think exposure is gonna make them more prone to doing it, but realistically would make them more informed and have access to better resources!!! Obvi not all of Euphoria is realistic but 17-18 year olds exposed to lots of drugs and sex… unfortunately realistic😭😭 ~ From a member of Gen Z

[@kdubs0527]

YES! The lack of sex education and also I think because the DARE program was an absolute failure.

[@baileygoodson7687]

@@kdubs0527 YESSS omg i forgot about dare!!! The school i did dare through ended up being way worse than the school i moved to for high school😭

[@kdubs0527]

@@baileygoodson7687 right??? DARE was horrible😂 I feel like they absolutely did not deter kids from doing drugs

[@valarya]

there's no "now" about how common it is. I graduated HS in the 90s and it was just the same then. A few comments up someone graduated HS in the 70s and same for her. It's been this way for ages and ages lol... kids will be kids (myself included)

[@baileygoodson7687]

@@valarya Haha definitely, I wasn't trying to say it was any better then but just extremely prevalent in my own recent experiences!! My entire friend group has parents from the 80s who did the same shit in high school hahaha

[@pamelaelizondohidalgo]

27:37 The face that Erik makes after Colleen asks if is normal for high-schoolers to have crazy amounts of sex 😂😂

[@mayaseaver6448]

you can tell he’s not being honest about his high school experience because she’ll just judge & look down on him for having sex and not practicing and preaching abstinence lol

[@Katya42243]

For me Colleen screams PRIVILEGE. Drug addiction it’s a huge and sensitive object. It’s not just a “think”. Please educate yourself before you speak. I saw many people who suffers and dies bc of that specially in my medical college.

[@Fry_Plantain]

My boy Erik is fighting for his life rn....... LMFAOOOOOOOO Stay up bro!!!!!!!!

[@cassidylocigno2347]

The going to another room at a party and hooking up is very real 🤣 spare bedrooms, bathrooms, living rooms, offices. You name it, it happened and everyone was aware lol

[@mayaseaver6448]

in the wise words of Erik at the airport, “Colleen, get a grip.” stop glazing over sex talks and topics on the podcast. it’s not gross or taboo… y’all have three children. how do you think you got them? i think it’s important to destigmatize and learn about, how do you expect your children to learn and be respectful of their partners in the future if you can’t even say the word Sex in front of your husband. Relax.

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

True! putting a stigma like that around sex can be very dangerous to talk about on a public platform, especially with young listeners who absorb everything they hear like sponges. It’s so important to talk about these things openly. It’s one thing to not bring it up whatsoever, but if you’re talking about something like euphoria, you have to be able to cover it all with sensitivity and no stigmas

[@KW93747]

I don’t think she’s “putting a stigma” on it by being uncomfortable due to her upbringing.

[@maryrush4540]

i don’t think she feels uncomfortable saying the word sex in front of him. she knows that a big part of her audience is young and she probably wants to keep it PG

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

@@KW93747 she is putting a stigma on it by talking about abstinence in a positive light though, even if she isn’t meaning to stigmatize it. to young listeners, this could be detrimental to hear from someone you look up to.

[@KW93747]

@@giuliacacciatore4765 why is talking about abstinence in a positive light a bad thing? I get that it’s unrealistic to expect all teenagers to be abstinent but that doesn’t mean that abstinence is bad.

[@greenjeans7504]

When someone is often interrupted it shows them how little they are valued. He’ll never leave. Her dramatics, the egocentric inconsideration will continue. The years will pass then slowly & without even knowing when it happened, he will realize at a core level he doesn’t like who she is.

[@paulinalosch3105]

okay did ur crystal ball tell u that

[@ShyGiggles19]

go touch grass pls

[@baileynishay]

Oh my God get a life

[@liv-bv3pl]

This is too much- comments like these r def the reason erik used to be afraid of being online

[@classycashew]

I looooove y’all’s podcast so much, but I do want to say it gets a wee bit frustrating that Erik rarely ever gets to finish a thought before being interrupted. Just wanted to offer this bit of constructive criticism because it’s not only a little frustrating to listen to, but it makes me feel a little bad for him 😭 just something I’ve noticed hope this doesn’t come off rude.

[@elsie26]

i agree. i watch all 3 of colleen’s channels (i don’t really watch miranda) and i love her, but i feel really bad for erik sometimes. i know colleen has adhd and she can’t really help it sometimes, but it can still be frustrating that erik rarely gets to speak.

[@guywiththelongcirl]

also its so interesting how colleen knows everything about everyone all the time and can always say "thats not true that didnt happen to you" as though she knows. so great to have someone around to tell you you are wrong about your own life.much better than being gaslit all the time right? just saying....just because something wasnt your experience doesnt mean it wasnt someone elses....also he never said it was exact, obviously tv is a dramatization. Im not hating on Colleen, im a fan just saying its frustrating when she always says his experiences are wrong...

[@julieortega7023]

THISSSS!!!

[@katmoon8080]

PREACH

[@shelleybennett5408]

@@noway5736 i feel like we went to the same high school lol

[@marimargoux9574]

Yup! I wish Erik could be tagged in these comments lol

[@saalihahm.4156]

I can sense Erik really not wanting to tell Coleen about his normal high school experience bc she was so sheltered. And he knows she would totally judge him

[@JenKnee423]

These podcasts are really showing a different side to Colleen, and it’s not a good one.

[@andreaguzman2295]

@@JenKnee423 you have to understand her background. I was raised by cray religious people and I’m learning everyday

[@elicarina]

come on... they laugh together about everything, she judges jokingly like many couples/friends do and im more than sure that he feels comfortable talking about his young times with his wife. He literally said "im not gonna admit the things i did in a public podcast" it doesnt seem like hes "scared" to tell her, but to the public. he is reserved, everyone knows that.

[@plummuff]

@@JenKnee423 are you on the colleenballingersnark reddit haha

[@kaiaswrld]

Let’s get Eric in euphoria season 3. Sometimes I forget he’s like a really big actor. I love good trouble and I’m excited to see more of him in it

[@mutantmother4415]

Bless Erik and his endless patience. It constantly seems like he makes the sacrifices and accommodations in the relationship. His whole life revolves around Colleen and their/her family and it’s pretty hard to watch her dismiss and judge his experience so harshly. As someone who constantly speaks on acceptance and embracing differences, Colleen is still extremely judgmental. This one was really hard to watch, honestly.

[@mayaseaver6448]

perfectly said!

[@xmofongo1x]

I love her so much and I'm a huge fan but yes, this was very tone deaf. Clearly she's biased and doesn't even realize it because of her upbringing. As someone in small town CT public school, I had Erik's experience essentially (I went to the Milford mall and Trumbull mall all the time in high school lmao). And many of my friends and people I know had more of a Euphoria experience (or Saved by the bell, Degrassi, Skins, etc). And many people truly suffered trauma at a young age. Ugh this makes me so sad

[@mariachristina5793]

Oof. Colleen should’ve really thought about this, before making this a topic on this weeks podcast. I don’t believe the quirky sheltered act. There’s no way, someone can be this oblivious to what’s going on, in high schools. & she should’ve just had this podcast, as a one woman show, because she never lets Erik speak, and when she does, she puts him down. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@iluvzurara2]

Or maybe there legit was no drugs around her? That was not my experience at all either and I was not raised at all conservative Christian nor was I raised in a small town

[@8happyperson]

its definitely possible. just because it wasn't the experience you had or the experience other people you knew had doesn't mean there aren't lots of people that have very different experiences.

[@iluvzurara2]

@@8happyperson I understand that. I’m merely responding to the OPwho said they don’t believe quirky sheltered act and that she’s that oblivious to the things around bc gasp maybe they legit weren’t around her. Some other commenter legit said EVERYBODY goes through this. No that is absolutely false. To say “ many” or “most” is one thing but to just generally assume that it’s literally everybody’s normal is just false.

[@sallll27]

Colleen…. Oof lol you were very sheltered growing up and in your high school. You were lucky. Just because you didn’t experience it doesn’t mean it’s not happening all around.

[@30nash30]

Colleen must have completely forgotten about the video she made long ago where she confessed to trying marijuana for the first (and only) time. Granted it's not a heavy drug like heroin or e, but still...

[@janellek6022]

I COULDN’T agree more with Erik about euphoria. I became a mom last December and watching just made me hope and pray my daughter doesn’t go through anything like that. That show is acc.ur.ate.

[@rydellgreen5493]

Advice - sex- teach your kid about sex don’t preach abstinence but teach how to be safe and how to protect yourself and how to speak up for themselves and say no if they feel pressure Drugs- don’t just say drugs are bad explain it to them read out drug withdrawal symptoms show them videos of people going thru it show before and after photos of people who did drugs Also always be open and don’t punish them for normal teenage things the more open you are the more they will come to you with things and trust you and be open to you

[@danielle2453]

starting to realize why Colleen knows nothing about Erik’s sexual past... I’m sure he doesn’t want to say out of fear of being judged and looked down upon 🥴

[@LishM]

If Colleen would ever LISTEN to another persons human experience she might learn a thing or two but she always shuts it down because if it isn’t her experience then it’s not right or it can’t happen. How is it so unbelievable that people can have points of view or experiences different than her own? when Erik even tries to give his two cents she either interrupts him to talk about herself, or makes fun of him. She’s so out of touch it’s unreal, we are the same age both mothers and wives so that is no excuse. The judgement behind her voice when she says drug addicts is so nasty! Colleen please learn that you are incredibly privileged and have been incredibly sheltered and YOUR experience is actually the odd one, most of us live in the real world.

[@cassiefrericks4387]

This!!!!!!

[@beatrice8853]

Well said!

[@giuliacacciatore4765]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@tessmurray8218]

🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@NSLuna]

THIS

[@Jac-Jay]

Eric is the most patient man on the planet,he deserves a medal,how he puts up with Colleen's ignorance is beyond me.

[@MadelineClaire]

Colleen, I have personally lost people to drug use and I find your discussion of Rue’s drug addiction to be abhorrant. Plese educate yourself and do better.

[@brittneyherbert7]

i have watched every single podcast you guys have made and this one is just by far the absolute worst… just because you personally didn’t experience something doesn’t mean it’s not happening around you.

[@rkrockproductions]

tbh it’s really sad how she never lets Erik speak! as someone with adhd I tell my partner to please let me know if I am interrupting too much or taking up too much space. Part of being a good partner is listening!!!!!!! unbearable episode that really stigmatizes people dealing with real, heartbreaking issues. def will not watch this pod again after this. i

[@mayaseaver6448]

i can’t believe how calm erik was being this episode, id be so mad if my partner dismissed and judged how i experienced my teenage years just because it was different than their extremely rare and privileged upbringing.

[@ashleighcleaver9009]

I mean yes that is true but thats just how some are.

[@MandiVincent]

1000% agree. I normally love Colleen but this put such a bad taste in my mouth. I was I was confident that she would look at these comments and learn from this, but I’m scared she’s going to act like the victim or not take it seriously.

[@mayaseaver6448]

@@MandiVincent she just posted a tik tok about all the “hate” comments she’s getting… im afraid im done here.

[@teamphelly5228]

I don't think it's this serious between them ^^

[@ashleya8187]

Its just a civil discussion they are having and she is just expressing her curiosity. I don’t see anything wrong

[@zeebee1152]

I was hooked on bars, didn’t graduate, skipped school all the time BECAUSE my dad died we literally had to move out our house a week later. My mom turned into an alcoholic. Don’t speak on stuff you don’t know. That’s literally REAL life most people in the world have lives more like mine than yours. Someone like you would say all that was my fault when all of that grew from TRAUMA.

[@rydellgreen5493]

Exactly people don’t just become addicts out of no where some of us “addicts” become that way because of certain things that happened in life.

[@amybrown4691]

Colleen is clueless to the things teens are being faced with realistically in high school. Erik is correct!