Overwatch Coaching | ZEN MAIN GETS DESTROYED! [OverAnalyzed]

[@slackclover5]

24:51 - If you're ever having a bad day, just listen to this part of the video.

[@bazzybrush]

it's only 3 inches.

[@upbeatjester956]

this is the opposite of chipsa. It is so unbalanced, SO UNBALANCED. While Sty is it is absolutely massive, SO MASSIVE!!!

[@alejandrorosales2558]

get a perm

[@P00PonYOURchest653]

I cannot like this comment enough XD

[@bonkuwu3584]

Out of contwxt and only the audio sound really weird

[@whale7291]

I’m both confused and intrigued to know how their reaper found the name ‘erecteyeballs’...

[@andrewmartinez961]

Clearly this player is a snail

[@juicedrinker76]

ur eyeballs arent erect? damn,, you okay bud? get that checked out 🥺🥺

[@juicedrinker76]

itd be funny if you played wrecking ball

[@yufengouyang7327]

Wait...wtf

[@dawoodasaleh]

“As zen you should always do something” *Well I put a harmony orb on a player and then never looked at them for the rest of the game*

[@alfiesheahan9098]

You clearly are a pro cos u did something😂😂

[@thelegendarycaboose9193]

This man is 1000 iq galaxy brain up in here

[@aris7115]

Lee McDonald its actually viable. And a lot of people know and acknowledge it. The fact that he has no footsteps and a one burst potential, makes him a very scary flanker.

[@yufengouyang7327]

FLANKYYATTA

[@stylosa]

I'm Harry Potter? I'm gonna cut my hair tonight, I can't live like this lads

[@dawoodasaleh]

But that hair is what powers this magical channel

[@bilbeisi7487]

You can get through this Sty don't worry

[@Jarjarfunk]

Hegred: you're a nerd Stylosa.

[@arcticblade2043]

It looks good on you!!😂

[@galaxynugget291]

Lol wingardium levoisa

[@HunterH12]

This dude alt fired more in this game than I have in my 100 hours on Zen

[@lewashby8662]

22:19 Stylosa finally losing his mind (colorized)

[@Soapy_Papoose]

The worst part of his constant alt charging is he only fires two or three. 🤦‍♂️

[@lordthethan3972]

It's a situational thing: to alt fire all 5 orbs or only 2-3. As a longtime Zenyatta main (300hrs), I find that Zenyatta's ammo is as much of a valuable resource as Mcree's peacekeeper rounds. It's so easy to burn through the entire clip, and the reload animation is long enough to get oneself caught out in a bad situation (especially when you factor in harmony/discord animations, which cancel Zen's reload). Because of this, I have to time my reload WITH my harmony AND discord, and I emphasize as much value out of Zen's clip as I can during a match. For these reasons, I find that in many instances, it can be more viable to alt fire 2-3 orbs that will land on my target (and build ult charge), instead of charging all 5 orbs that might not all connect with the target (which takes more time and ammo), which ends up wasting ammo, and costs more resources in regards to Zenyatta's many expensive animations and potential damage value. You're not wrong; it's a playstyle preference, but it's logical to me to only fire all 5 orbs if I can attain maximum value out of the damage potential of 5 very angry Zenyatta projectiles.

[@Blovmag]

The worst part is that he uses alternate fire more than he should. His in-fight reactions are not that good. Once in the fight he should forget about alternate fire but he keeps using it. And because of that, his discord orb usage is also not the best. Putting the discord is the very first thing any Zen must do.

[@majinbooze3918]

The worst part is his accuracy with it was abysmal. He even struggled to hit Rein at point blank.

[@Night-Shade.]

You can kill any 200 hp hero with 3 charged alt headshots. But yeah this player prioritized alt when in situations where it was better to use primary.

[@aris7115]

You dont always have to fire all five. There is a reason why the game allows you to stop charging and fire 1-4 orbs

[@hibernacul]

I watched a Jayne coaching video a few months ago where he broke down the difference in dps between alt fire and regular shots. It really changed the way I play Zen. I wish Overwatch did more to give you that kind of information in game.

[@theodora1979]

Finally someone saying "I don't mind you playing zen even though the team comp isn't the best for him". And that someone is A COACH. I always get trashed in comp for playing zen and he's my main... Even yesterday I swapped to zen because I saw the enemy team chose a zarya later in the first round and the whole team screamed at me that I didn't do sh!t even though I transcended when zarya's grav went in and saved like 4-5 people. Sry for ranting still sad about that. Thanks Sty for making me a zen main feel validated doe.

[@benwarne189]

I’m a zen main too feels bad man our time will come

[@Was_los_Bruda]

To be fair 7/10 Zen Mains in my games are literally throwing

[@terrymoose7273]

@@Was_los_Bruda ^This^

[@monkeyman3847]

I believe baptiste is Zen but better he has an immortality and can heal so much better and good players will bait your trans with other ults

[@nathaniel011]

@@monkeyman3847 If you're playing zen you should/need to be aware of that which is why ult tracking as zen is vital. Bap is great but doesn't have the kill potential zen has with discord, if you discord and the team follows up with your targets they're dead. Good teams will also bait and target immortality you saw it in the video Immortality doesn't stop the blossom tranc does.

[@patonnight]

25:38 In terms of Discord, we have no Discord.

[@codegame027]

IMO, you should always have your orb of harmony on an ally even if they are full health

[@fzoid3534]

I mean both orbs should always be on someone. I tried to write my prioriy down but that's not easy at all. :) I prioritize tanks but a tank with 90% hp doesn't need the orb as much as the dps/heal that's going to die. The only people I give the heal orb at full hp are usually tanks about to go in or flankers like Tracer or Genji Most of the time I rotate the orb on whatever teammate is being targeted atm

[@nojouniggorou2605]

Isn’t that a screen loading tip?...

[@fzoid3534]

@@nojouniggorou2605 that's a long tip.. tbh I don't know. I deactivated these many years ago

[@bennettreichart1335]

I’m a 3600 current support player and my most played in order are Moira-Ana-Zen so I know some zen, I would recommend looking around to see smaller fights like 1v1s, if you can give your teammate the orb and the enemy discord they will likely win that fight because it makes a big difference on smaller targets in duels. Keeping it on a rein will give you heal stat but if your looking to make plays keep looking around for these duels so you can swing them in your teammates favor.

[@jaredlamb9743]

This Zen is killing me. Watching his DPS die in front of him over and over while he's charging. I like to play behind the DPS and use them like a scope for the Discord. Whomever they are shooting at I target. Works great with Roadhog. Discord as they hook someone and fire away as they get drawn in can just about kill a tank if RH can hit his whole combo

[@lumathran]

I bet the DPS Duo were yelling at their team the whole game blaming the tanks and the healers

[@peepachu6605]

Lumathran Gaming In console, sometimes it feels like the tanks are pretty useless. They don’t push in at all. I have to queue up with friends to play with good tanks

[@ryanjackson9109]

Katsuyu i play tank (mix of console/pc) and i feel like the others dont push and when they do its all fucked up. its probably because nobody uses voice tho, its so shit that you cant even hear game chat if you are talking to friends.

[@peepachu6605]

@@ryanjackson9109 Yeah, using comms would be so much better but no one does

[@tomflynn2623]

@@peepachu6605 let's team us xbox add flynnzgaming

[@KoroftheSon]

The Transcendence usage wasn't even that bad. The really horrible part was them just not putting harmony orb on people, and also forgetting that left click exists

[@EliteNinja2457]

Can we have a Brigette or Moira OverAnalysed please? I’m practicing both of these and could do with a hand. Thank You!

[@beni8387]

Tip: exist

[@nashis5947]

stop playing! brig and moira, they are the most annoying heroes! If you want to be the most annoying player in a game, play brig. otherwise you can play moira but you dont need any skill for moira.

[@basvaneijgen6506]

@@nashis5947 you are probably a hard stuck gold/plat dude. Why should u not play Moira and Brig, they are good at the low ranks, even at the high ranks and they are low skill, but who cares. Do you prefer a good Moira without skill or a garbage Ana without skill.

[@daniellemeows]

There are literally millions for those heroes. We need some new videos for heroes he doesn’t normally do. Like Junkrat or Ana. Not Moira and Brig.

[@reformed1trick739]

I'm a Masters Brig and Moira. I'll send in some games, maybe we will get lucky :)

[@RobsonLanaNarvy]

About minute 9:00, he respond together with baptiste. He was receiving damage from 2 directions and reacted to survive.

[@allmightallmight1343]

Stylosa: while tracer smashes us Me: I wish in was that zen Edit I have never gotten this many likes thanks

[@scherebeatle]

datGinger 123 ?

[@alfiesheahan9098]

datGinger 123 u dizzy

[@lumathran]

datGinger 123 ?

[@sakuta6088]

datGinger 123 ?

[@algeolibonatti52]

datGinger 123 ?

[@nextaros]

Blizzard, can we have Sty at 4:09-4:13 show every time we start the game before it loads to the main menu?

[@Rex-gv8jo]

Stylosa you have made me go from bronze to plat with all your tips love your content!!!!!

[@Rushi486]

Also you should always pay attention to second healer as zen. On your own you cant dish out much healing across the team in a fight, so making sure other healer is always full hp keeping everyone alive can be huge

[@KyouOneZilla]

Another thing about Alt Fire that Zen players need to realize is that you can't place your healing or discord orbs while charging. There are times where you can just save a teammate and fight by just having the ability to put those orbs on a flank 1v1

[@kierandawakn7210]

You videos really help me when I’m not feeling the greatest. My mom lost her ring and watching this helped me. Thanks for making good content

[@italiaebella6605]

I remember when tyrodin did stylosa impressions, I guess you could say it wasn’t rude because it was actually a good impersonation

[@tobyr703]

Hi sty! From console how would I be able to send a clip into you?

[@Ylva2304]

You import your Replay codes

[@Ylva2304]

You press the share on one of your replays and it imports a code

[@patas4life666]

Stylosa is like the Gordon Ramsay of Overwatch

[@fishhamakua]

As a Zen main on console, the one thing that kept getting me was the lack of Discord orbs this guy was putting out. That should always be out on anybody. The charges were a little irking but I thought his Ult use wasn't too bad. The Winston moment was a little bad but other then that I thought he was ok! I'm no God Zen by any means but just wanted to put my 2cents. Great vid bro!

[@GlitchWitchNyx]

I'm surprised you never mentioned their lack of putting harmony orb on people. Zen may have good DPS for a healer, but he's still a support character.

[@emmetthawthorne5556]

Yeah he probably only had like 3 k healing aside from trancendance

[@avalanche6871]

Sty: yeah next video we're gonna probably review some zen footage Me, a Zen main: oh good, time to farm up a replay or two to send in also me: *gets tank lines like this literally every game for three days worth of games, barely plays Zen so I don't get killed non-stop* then this video, of a player far braver than I lol

[@AaronPlay]

What support do you like best when you have a miserable tank lineup? Does it vary if you’ll be attacking a point vs defending a payload? I like to play Mercy, but my takeaway from this video is when I get stuck with Ball and dVa maybe I need to change it up.

[@Brendonn69]

Man was going to send some zen in tonight, and you already drop a bomb 😳

[@dollybaumer2]

10:52 rein and zen would have died to Moira ball if he did not trans, the immortality field would have been late and they’d be down one.

[@Viehdieb]

sty not seeing this made me so angry lol

[@burpdragon]

Not confirmable, still a waste of trans with grav and blossom up.

[@Rex-gv8jo]

Stylosa your hair is amazing and so is my beard that I had to shave because of school regulations, love your content!!!!!!

[@mrnipzs7604]

Abhinav Banerjee that’s a pretty dirty suggestion😏

[@jenius00]

Discord can't be placed while charging alternate fire which I think is the biggest issue. Discord should always be on someone. Let your DPS do their job by getting value off your orbs.

[@josephheenan1695]

Zen: Is level 212 Also zen: has no zen skin

[@krompy8221]

he probably just didnt equip it

[@brbrbr5976]

Nah, I use classic skins all the time. Zen has some of the best skins in the game but even his classic one is cool af

[@MASTERHARRIS200]

i got my first zen skin a week ago and im level 273

[@lucashernandez7861]

@@MASTERHARRIS200 Well that's a lie

[@poop143]

@@MASTERHARRIS200 you probably have opened your loot boxes 3 times

[@Jericheaux]

I do want to acknowledge the fact that Sty more often than not uses the terms "we" and "us" while viewing footage as he breaks things down for people to learn. Honestly it's super overlooked as how small changes like that drastically affect how things are said and taken. "We shouldn't be here" "We could've done better" and not "You need to do better" and such. Guy really is a treasure trove of knowledge and just good times watching his videos both old and new.

[@ln9895]

U know ur comment is good when sty hearts it on a 9 month old video

[@Jericheaux]

@@ln9895 Truly makes him all the more worth watching and supporting. Goes to show he isn't just clout chasing. He is here for the people haha. Thanks lad.

[@reformed1trick739]

In the next overanalyzed can you turn the volume of the game up just a little please? I can't hear the sound queues for all the abilities unless I turn the volume up enough for my roommate to hear Sty yelling lol

[@alexberjikly4863]

Interesting how 2 people in the same game have super similar names.

[@frostbow]

Probably playing together

[@nipplyfrost4607]

would you ever do an overanalysed with the person in voice?

[@jonathanlarame7871]

Can you do sombra soon please?

[@PoohOnYourShoe]

Sty you start charging at 2.6 at the start of the round because it takes 2.5 seconds to charge to 5 orbs. If you start at 4 or higher, by the time you fully charge and release the doors might not be fully open yet.

[@TriumphUnveiled]

zen a support sty: support the support 3:29

[@samleonard4285]

When Moira gets nerfed so much that she gets removed for being so bad 12:45

[@hektik2200]

Hey Sty you touch on a subject that I’d really love to hear more discussion around. You talk about how sometimes the team comp is the source of failure and you also touch on focusing your main but also swapping hero’s when ya don’t fit the comp. I guess as someone who yo-yo’s in silver and gold I feel discouraged after 10 losses in a row. I’m totally on board with fix my mistakes and I’ve tried fixing my positioning, use of natural cover, ult economy, etc. I just don’t see how to be the one man army to carry my team so they’re mistakes don’t matter to my personal climbing

[@theenchantedmango5469]

main tank next PLEASE

[@alfiesheahan9098]

Plaese can you do a Pharah / reaper coaching soon because it has been a while

[@phantomlois3644]

Have you ever done a Sigma overanalysed? Would be helpful :)

[@overlorde7526]

I don’t think he’s done a Moira in a while either

[@keithevans3918]

Its been a while for Hanzo as well... PLEASEEEEE! Thanks for these vids, love the content.

[@moonguardians4189]

Can we get a pharah video?

[@owenfennell4606]

Sty, I was wondering what hero will be next? I am a Hanzo main and I am hard stuck gold. I have been trying to analyze my mistakes but I am struggling. I could really use your help.

[@grievoussully417]

Hey Sty I’m a huge fan and have been using your videos as a sort of selection process trying to figure out what characters I’d like to learn. I’m rather new to the game and don’t feel ready for competitive yet. So far I’ve tried out almost every character and have tried to find at least two characters in each role so I can always have a character I’m fairly comfortable playing. My favorites are Zen for support, Junkrat for dps, and Reinheart for tank. What are your thoughts and who should I try playing next?

[@JunebugGaming]

Hey Sty! I was wondering if you would consider doing another Ana overanalyzed? I could be wrong but there hasnt been one in a couple months and the meta has changed a bit since then.

[@diarmuidholmes9320]

Sty does the stuff you said about saving trance in grav also work for sound barrier

[@valentinomunoz9687]

Hey Stylosa, I play at plat on dps but I know one of the main things holding me back is getting nervous and essentially "throw" when mercy damage boost me, Ana nanos me or even getting a pocket healer. Do you have a way to get over the immense feeling of pressure in these situations.

[@valentinomunoz9687]

PS. I know this sounds "oh woah is me", and maybe braggy or whatever but, this is a legitimate problem that I have so if you could help me out it would be appreciated

[@zenyatta5064]

@@valentinomunoz9687 ignore the boost or train the mental fortitude to keep your performance up even when your damage output is boosted. Something you see in players in master rank or lower is that they seem to think damage boost warrants mispositioning. Do not stop thinking about correct positioning and movement when you get nano or damage boost. Nanoboost does reduce the damage you take but being able to stay focused when you're under pressure or boosted is important to consistently being a good player

[@zayan4962]

do tracer tryna get master need some tips

[@lavahawk_1729]

Sty do a Sombra one

[@simonchilvers4539]

Hey stylosa do you know anyway you can do reply view on computer without the game or watch on KZbin

[@shannonolivas9524]

So many times he's charging up and firing multiple shots while people are dying in front of him and no harmony orb.

[@lukemaddy2552]

How long ago did u do a lucio one? If u are happy with doing one, can u?

[@reecewalker8706]

How can I watch the replay viewer of owl, do I do it on overwatch (PS4 for me) or is it a website?

[@Ma11o]

Someone tell me how to submit do they have to be game replays where stylosa can go back and stop the gameplay or can you just screen record a normal game

[@Wegetzu]

havent it been this exact same map like 10 videos straight now?

[@laerendor793]

I've been wondering on Zen, should you trans to save a teamate/yourself from dying or save trans for grav/another ult.

[@busitalique1767]

"It's beautiful, it's-it's... *oh yeah* "

[@cofffee817]

i went on a 10 game win streak solo queueing and none of my games had a shield tank so shield in low ranks isnt apparently needed most of the time

[@MrGladiator54321]

whats the music at the beginning and end?

[@cilderium546]

I would submit a video a clip but my wifi is too bad for 720p

[@smocloud]

I'm surprised you didn't harp him more about his harmonies. I've played a lot of zen and that's what irked me most.

[@fergus-7507]

Omg I’m first btw thanks for making overanalysed

[@Rex-gv8jo]

No you weren't other people commented 17min ago you commented 16min ago

[@burgernos7127]

Hi I want to send a clip for over analyzed but don't know which link to use in description

[@marslikestea]

burgernos it’s unit lost.com

[@samsurteess1939]

What is the music at the start of the video?

[@soaksoped_feline9888]

I think a lot of supports have stopped trusting their other supports because a lot of supports have turned to just dps and it’s annoying to trust ur healer and die anyway so we just try to do whatever we can do keep the team alive

[@dudleygt3327]

I’d like for you to coach me please but I don’t get which link you’re referring too I did placements. I would sometimes carry in my placements but I always get placed low because I have bad match ups sometimes my teammates don’t know how to go against some other heroes. Me I think my problem would be positioning and which are more of the important picks if enemy team are huddle up together. I main sombra, Mccree sometimes pharra and reaper or if my team request certain characters I’d switch and try my best to be a team player.

[@MyWaifuNow]

and i thought i had a problem with how much i charge alt on him damn this guy only right clicks

[@jacksonlovas4388]

stop i had this guy in my game the other day Lmfaoo

[@hunter750-]

Can you do a plat-master genji next? Haven’t covered him in awhile, and with the new buffs more people will be playing him. Thanks sty!

[@mytchill5492]

2nd cp round one if he trans when you said he might have been able to save his rein from dying and he had shatter ready.

[@samuel_tab436]

Do you want a gold nintendo switch gold support?

[@legendaryshadow6428]

Could the next one be Ashe or doomfist

[@PickUpStixs69]

Thank you for finally picking a rank over gold

[@alfiesheahan9098]

Sty said bad news Behz meaning he as all of Britain is a true consumer of the sidemen

[@autumn9693]

Ik I'm only silver but still when I play Zen ik when to stay at places or positions bcs of my widow gameplay

[@Evelyn208]

Baptiste is carrying the Zen here

[@Anon-qp3kt]

This guy is fine, a couple of tweaks in habit and he'll rank up. Aim will come with more playing time

[@krompy8221]

Could you do McCree or Baptiste?

[@valkenhayn412]

he's a zen main and doesn't know that..... 26:20 also honestly.. looking at this footage, he could've carried HARD if he had actually hit 50% of his shots. No one was jumping him, every time he died it was because of dumb positioning or just end of a lost fight. He had free rein over the entire enemy team almost ALL THE TIME, all that charging alt fire was sooooo fucking annoying, he could've killed hundreds if he was just using discord and shooting at the enemy in 99% of that match. Such a waste of Zen's potential in all this... in the end they won, but it was hard to watch

[@franciscolaurean8550]

*The entire enemy team all lined up with no barriers* Zenny: *Alt fire charge intensifies*

[@samowen7189]

Me and my mates started playing again for the first time since 2016. We play 6 stack most nights, it’s good fun but they always laugh at me when I say we need a main tank and roadhog sigma isn’t helping much when everyone else gets blitzed.

[@metalvideos1961]

road hog sigma is not the best combo no. but it can work without any problems. dva would have been a better pick. i have had tons of games with a sigma and hog and we still won. so it depends on who plays any of those heroes and what there skills are.

[@harelreisel]

I honestly think Stylosa had to tell him that he should use much more the harmony orb, people are dying in front of him and he does not care, he does not cancel the animation of the secondary fire. And as Stylosa said, please use the primary fire more. I just want to help, don't get this in the wrong way, peace!

[@shaiavraham2910]

Their Reaper must have a terrible time there

[@mypeteskimo5307]

As a zen main I have a bind that clicks E non stop

[@emmetthawthorne5556]

This zen didn't even heal very much

[@bonkuwu3584]

Hey, how can i submit you a clip? I only have the code of the replay

[@metalvideos1961]

everything is at the end of the video or start of the video. even in the description lol

[@bonkuwu3584]

@@metalvideos1961 This was like 6 months ago lol

[@ttibke]

Good gawd the charge shots hurt my soul so much. WAY WAY WAY too many. They're only for the burst dmg when you have time. Slow to discord, slow to shift healing orb--and a lot of that because you don't want to stop charging your secondary fire. Primary fire does do more per shot than secondary fire. Didn't hear that mentioned.

[@infernoKnives]

I hope you do my reaper analyze next

[@C4ndyman2003]

24:50 That’s what she said.

[@matthewsarson6934]

The best advice you can often give Zen...is to swap off Zen. Isn't it about time they finally gave him some more survivability or changed his silly head hitbox. Before Moira/Brig existed he felt ok to play, these days picking him feels damn near like throwing.

[@jessetheenderconchampion4559]

Actually you could stay as zen and use you’re discord in a good way not swapping

[@matthewsarson6934]

@@jessetheenderconchampion4559 You can only be applying discord constantly during the fight if you are alive. Which these days is a hell of an 'If'. I am not saying he does not have value but you can't apply that value from the god damn spawn room. Take this guy his positioning isn't even that bad but he is dying all the time. Zen used to be my main support, these days i hardly ever pick him.

[@manavasrani4466]

another doomfist overanalysed plz?

[@noahwton1004]

Sr?

[@diabeticjunkie9220]

Imagine playing Zen in Overwatch xD

[@exdee__]

Lmao honestly i see it as a throw

[@itsatomic0389]

He’s my favourite hero tho 😭😭😭 Blizz rlly need to sort him out tho :/

[@TJ-ck4dp]

Imagine not

[@lumathran]

Exdee _ apparently he’s good for solo climbing ranked. Maybe not recently though. I don’t keep up to date with some stuff lol

[@diabeticjunkie9220]

Zen is the worst support right now. Doesn't provide enough heals and gets picked off too easily

[@jordanharris3358]

I disagree on the 2nd point of the 1st round when Sty said the result would’ve been the same. First, he needs to learn how to cancel his alt fire with melee. Second, he was too busy charging his alt to trans and save his Rein who had earth shatter and could’ve possibly won that fight.

[@ace8740]

anyone know how to send my replay to this guy ?

[@JuptianGames]

we just going to ignore the fact that he didn't take high ground more than once? I see, I should be on low ground on zenyeeta

[@b0ld651]

zen players dont understand that ur defense is his damage he has the highest damage output out of all the healers and even some dps