The Hidden Killer in Contact Sports

[@Oliver.Verdant]

The NFL opened a hotline for wive's of their players to call for domestic abuse, psychological mistreatment, and emotional instability. The line was completely flooded for 3 days straight, and they needed to allocate more people and resources because they didn't realize how bad it was.

[@_will795]

Oh wow. Never heard that. That’s insane

[@Oliver.Verdant]

Yeah, I had learned about it back in HighSchool from one of those groups that show up to schools and do PSA’s. It’s a bigger problem than people realize.

[@carlacampbell9708]

So you really sell your soul if your profession is football or other sports that give you concussions. These men that make sooo much money off them.

[@Oliver.Verdant]

Yeah, basically

[@tinakennedy5173]

bro this shit is total balony

[@SquishySeaBird]

My dad fell 40 feet working on cell towers and cracked his skull. He was an entirely different person after that. Impulsive, violent, developed drug and alcohol problems. I’ve heard so many stories about what a kind and patient man he was before that.

[@samm4158]

that probably wasn’t CTE, since it wasn’t repeated injuries over time, but simply the severity of the single injury. it’s been documented that even one significant instance of brain damage can alter someone’s personality depending on what portion of the brain was damaged. knew a kid in middle school who got hit by a vehicle in the parking lot, and the exact same thing happened to him as what happened to your dad. i’m really sorry you had to go through that. the human brain is really so delicate for something so inherent to ourselves and our personalities.

[@SquishySeaBird]

@@samm4158 yeah it was TBI not CTE, still crazy how fragile the brain is

[@JsParker43]

My dad is the same way, horrible brain injury from bronc riding. He's still there, my mom says he's a really intense version of himself

[@Lin1Lin2Lin3Lin4]

That really sucks. It's tragic that you and your family had to deal with something so awful. Hope you all are doing better

[@swickens930]

​@@samm4158 You can get CTE very quickly though. CTE is usually a slow buildup because it shows up in boxing and stuff where the individual blows aren't powerful. So it seems to have a slow buildup, but no, you can get CTE as fast as one day after having a brain injury or traumatic experience. Apparently if you're unlucky, you can CTE within the same day that you hit your head and the injury could be super minor like not even getting a concussion.

[@imMADbro100]

Wrote a 6 page paper about CTE in highschool(2015). My paper was not well received by my teacher because she said there wasn’t much to know about it. I could’ve made that paper 50 pages. After a few concussions my self, I became so obsessed with this weird thing that people seem to just know nothing about. I love this video, thank you

[@anonymoussighted5438]

I feel like and 6 page paper should of been enough 😓 that's not even fair. That sucks

[@joptorres9826]

L teacher

[@iwuoncat]

Put the drive link of that paper. I'm invested

[@miketaylor9517]

Sad story my friend. Sorry you had to go through that.

[@themicrowavedev]

@@iwuoncat fr

[@Ludophobias]

the human brain is so complex, yet so fragile. too many wrong taps and you’re out

[@Volti-Vagra]

or worse off, youre still kicking but nothing close to the person that was there prior both ways, absolutely horrifying

[@dr_diddy]

humans can survive and heal from being torn and shred but taps out if you sleep in the wrong position.

[@jamesmccomb9525]

It's not the worst thing in the world. Even if I've got brain damage I'm still ultimately me, and by the time I'm incapable of even recognising that I'll be off in the clouds.

[@ThatC1official]

Yap yap yap

[@romansnider4676]

Are you still you? Like you say that now but murder,rape domestic violence is that still you?​@jamesmccomb9525

[@BRILTHY]

Bo Jackson is possibly the most athletic individual to ever live. He has stated that he would never let his kids play contact sports after learning what CTE is.

[@FungusUnited]

I would say wilt Chamberlain

[@chrismodski6284]

Bo knows ...

[@BullFrogFace]

I couldn't care less about sports but Bo Jackson was/is a beast. Every once in awhile I'll watch him effortlessly snap a bat in 2 with his leg like it was a twig during his baseball days

[@RocketDraco47]

@@BullFrogFacehe can thank roids for that 😂

[@RocketDraco47]

It’s fine to play contact sports just don’t make them your whole career 😂

[@Tunda2]

After 11 concussions and a TBI by the end of high school, I’m 27 with constant headaches and sometimes it feels impossible to control my anger and other impulses. Memory sucks. Don’t let your kids play contact sports until at least high school

[@timothybilotta8090]

Right there with you bud. I'm 46 now and have had to come to terms with how my life was affected by these injuries when I was just a teenager. I travel a lot and have an amazing dog but "normal life" just never quite worked for me. It's ok to build a life for yourself that is low stress, if people don't give you some understanding of your situation it's ok to cut them off. With these types of injuries you have to find a way to love yourself the most and that involves a lot of forgiveness.

[@Tunda2]

@@timothybilotta8090 I wish I could think now that I have world experience as effectively as I could in middle school when I had a photographic memory

[@Newt94]

How can you have experienced this first hand and endorse anyone, let alone highschool kids with developing brains, ever playing these dumbass games. Just bring back the gladiators at this point.. it's all just bloodsport anyway. At least the suffering is brief compared to a life ruined by r**arded games

[@killerqueenbiteszadusto1771]

May I ask how you managed to get to 11 without anyone's concern? Or what sport caused them?

[@Tunda2]

@ I got to high school with 5 from a mix of wrestling and football but nobody really cared yet. Got 4 in my first 3 seasons of high school football and my last one pro wrestling in college. I graduated high school in 2014, right when football people really acknowledged that head injuries might be a bad thing. The pro wrestling one was the most my fault thing that has ever happened in my existence but I also hadn’t told anybody about my concussion history so they would train me

[@brendolbreadwar2671]

Bro went from being the best comedic animator to the best commentary KZbinr.

[@R0FLC4T5]

Papa provides

[@3-4inchesStillAshower]

Meaty papa provides (we all say in unsion)

[@jeambeam3173]

It's funny because I've seen ppl give him shit for this like piss off dude

[@charlie_541]

@@jeambeam3173imma be honest I barley ever watch Meat’s cartoons I just watch this channel

[@GrandDukeMushroom]

@@charlie_541 I prefer the cartoons but I appreciate this girthy visage.

[@SociallDrinkerr]

The Benoit story is so tragic, one of the doctors who examined his brain said it was similar to that of an 80 year old Alzheimer’s patient. It’s so insane especially with how wrestling was back then.

[@peterzelaya9948]

Bruh his signature move was literally a flying headbutt 💀

[@sweetpepino1907]

​@@peterzelaya9948 And if I recall correctly, he was one of the guys that took pride in taking unprotected chair shots to the head for the sake of the realism

[@peterzelaya9948]

@@sweetpepino1907 sounds about right. What a legend.

[@504godzilla]

McMahon was also a monster allowing that shit to happen. He didn't give a fuck about safety

[@504godzilla]

​@@peterzelaya9948 a morally deficient take

[@ac8911]

By the way - Helmets don't protect from CTE or concussions. Concussions in sports/collisions come from your skull screeching to a halt, then experiencing your still-moving-brain slam into the side of your skull. There's nothing to really stop this from happening, unless you design helmets with 'crumple zones' to absorb the impact. Still, many have hypothesized that the increased padding and helmet sizes have allowed players to slam into eachother at increased speeds over the decades, thus *increasing* the risk for concussions/CTE overall. Just some food for thought.

[@adioamigo22]

Hockey has a similar issue; the pads have gotten bigger and better, and players are faster than ever, which has led to an increase of head injuries even when the head isn't contacted during the hit.

[@charlesflohr1815]

Interesting. Similar idea to the advent of boxing gloves - the padding allows pugilists to hit their opponent in the face and head, where before the gloves, fighters went bare fist and avoided the head, to not injure themselves on the hard, sharp face bones and snd skull.

[@user-tr3gt9bp7c]

The number of times you hear professional athletes say "well the research is still coming out" is legitimately heartbreaking. It's one thing to accept the risk and another to be uneducated and unaware of the damage you're doing to yourself.

[@Cymricus]

sadly 99% of poor teens would immediately roll the dice for that level of fame and money.

[@tylergaye5457]

​@@Cymricus 99% of people would not just poor teens

[@romanmay2867]

it’s not even that they don’t know they don’t care because it would end their careers if contact sports started being seen in a less positive light

[@TheHystericalHyena]

Willful ignorance is an extremely common condition.

[@thegrandestcherokee7161]

I boxed from 2012-2016, when I learned about CTE and the reality of it, being accepted by the NFL and all. It did change my mind. What's left of it anyways lol Note that I was a poor teenager, now I'm a poor adult but I'm glad I stopped when I did.

[@Bigboibeven]

Im a neuroscientist, and this stuff terrifies me. Neuronal cells in the central nervous system, including your brain, are post-mitotic. This means they dont divide and replicate, so once theyre dead, they aint comin back. Repeated trauma to the brain not only will kill some of these cells directly, but inflammatory responses to this trauma also can create cytotoxic conditions for neurons (its toxic to other cells in the area). Also, Tau protein tangles are one of the primary pathologies observed on dementia, so it makes sense that the symptoms of CTE often mimic those of dementia. And to answer nicks question, the plaque that forms in alzheimers is beta-amyloid protein plaques, along with Tau protein tangles

[@ctobolsk]

My personal unreasonable fears are prion diseases and FFI. So much can go wrong with the brain, even if some of these things are exceedingly rare

[@JohnSmith09123]

@@Bigboibeven idk why, but I want to pick your brain, and now I want to learn more about the human brain

[@Im-lost-pleaese-help]

Are you a numerovalcanocoliosis

[@LuckERadio]

@@JohnSmith09123don’t pick it too hard, he might get CTE

[@nutzeeber]

What else beside head trauma that kills those cells? Like certain food maybe or bad sleeping schedule?

[@larkasmr1128]

It makes it even sadder how it seems like a common theme that almost right after committing these awful crimes, they experience remorse and regret, showing how they were out of control and taking action they only took as a result of this disease

[@TheKaptainBob]

You didn't mention that Dr Christopher Nowinski was also a WWE performer in the early 2000s and retired due to post concussion symptoms before returning to school to earn his doctorate. Dude lived the life and then got the education to back it up. He might be one of the most important names in concussion research, if only for the awareness he's brought to the whole situation.

[@luka6575]

I think there is something to say about that. Taking time off and pursuing a more "mindful" activity has shown to do slow down neural degeneration. I think it might've saved him going back and using his brain productively. The human body is fantastic at keeping itself productive.

[@NGPlus930]

I was coming to say this

[@ExtremusStupidus]

wasnt there a movie dedicated to this guy?

[@therewassun]

Dang yeah he’s a neuroscientist now. Cool

[@androgynousmaggot9389]

THANK YOU! I was looking if someone already posted this! It's hilarious how the next picture is him shaking hands with two cockroaches in human suites, the biggest deniers of CTE, before it became impossible to reject the studies! Even the wwe chief doctor called it/him a fraud! "Harvard Chris" is a legend!

[@mrkoolaidism]

Fun fact, EA is not allowed to put concussions as one of the injuries you can receive in Madden. They also are not allowed to put things like helmets coming off when a player gets hit. The NFL tries really hard to hide the fact that its a problem. Go Steelers though

[@jonsmalls2649]

That’s fucked up. Who Dey!

[@Red_Ryan_Red]

Wow. Fly eagles fly

[@SorrowAvenue]

Claw‘em high Wakanda Black Panthers!

[@Novsev9069]

Woo go Steelers can’t wait for the 9th

[@isaacwest276]

That's insane I hate the NFL and can't wait for it to get humbled. Broncos country, let's ride! (Thank goodness my Edmonton Oilers are good).

[@christianperez7846]

Head injuries freak me out. Because you can’t tell if you’re declining, only the people around you can.

[@markdotinc8371]

You can tell

[@NoNameNoShame822]

You certainly can.. it's very hard to come to terms with.. it's scary, frustrating, depressing, everything, all the time.

[@monkeyearcheese420]

I can definitely tell. I think I'm lucky and on the edge of bad

[@ArtsyHumanbean]

Chris Benoit was so incredibly sad, because people said he was actually a very nice man before the mental illness took over. Taking care of his family, friends. It was such a crazy thing, and if I remember right he wanted to get out of the game, he wanted to stop but his managers/the wrestling leagues didn’t want him out… so sad.

[@tnty1561]

It sucks even more when you watch his matches and see that he was actually REALLY good, and was regarded as one of the best technical wrestlers to work with. So sad that he had to pay the price of it tho

[@michaelward5370]

I am surprised that Mick Foley still seems to be fine! I remember watching one of his matches against The Rock! The Rock hit him with a steel chair over 10 times, and that's just one example! I think also the fact so many wrestlers die of heart problems at young ages!!

[@michaelward5370]

​@@tnty1561, I agree! Chris Benoit was awesome! Him and Eddie Guerrero were my favourite wrestlers at the time, so sad that both died so young!!

[@michaelward5370]

In my first comment I meant to say that the fact so many wrestlers die from heart problems should be investigated!!

[@ewoodley82]

@@michaelward5370 Its most likely the roids.

[@Mackcloudproductions]

In case you didn’t know Christopher Nowinski was also a former WWE wrestler in the early 2000’s and his own head injuries caused him to acquire his doctorate and become an expert in the field. He also did the autopsy on Chris Benoit.

[@bastienmillecam3183]

That is metal. Must be a very interesting guy

[@AirCarlos97]

I knew that name sounded so familiar.

[@nikitaegorov3993]

No, he's just encouraged to do an autopsy on Benoit. The autopsy was done by a trained neurosurgeon, which Nowinski is not.

[@Mackcloudproductions]

@@nikitaegorov3993 thanks for the correction! My knowledge of this was from the episode of Dark side of the ring on the Benoit tragedies so it the way Nowinski talks about it almost seems like he himself did the autopsy

[@Justatransgal23]

Fun fact: Chris Nowinski was a wrestler and knew Chris Benoit, who had asked to speak to him about a month before the tragedy to learn more about concussions and brain trauma and gave Nowinski his phone number. Nowinski called him a week later, Benoit picked up in an argument, said he’d call him back later, and then never did

[@regaljones7303]

...not so fun fact

[@Podzhagitel]

if this is what you call a fun fact i’d hate to see what you call something troubling

[@yoda90]

Remember in 2006 when Andre Waters killed himself on his pool deck. He didn't harm anyone except himself, adding himself to the increasing number of athletes who experience this awful disease.

[@mattcatdoodles]

I looked this up after the video ended and a study found that 99% of deceased NFL players had CTE. 110 out of 111 players

[@cam5816]

Might that be affected by the type of NFL players who are likely going to donate their brain to be studied after death?

[@ForeskinTim]

​@@cam5816yeah good point. Possibly had their brain scanned due to being symptomatic as opposed to simply being a former nfl player

[@sarahjarrett8004]

@@ForeskinTim110% I feel like the family members probably saw the study as an opportunity to get answers

[@jakeboehm5267]

This is misleading. They actually tests 202 players brains. 111 of those players were in the nfl. Of that group as a whole, 110 of them were found to have cte.

[@Blue71974]

Honestly that’s why I always thought American football was kinda like a barbaric sport same with boxing and wrestling.

[@MillhouseDaPlug]

The fact chris killed his wife and kids but made sure his dogs where ok after his death is insane how his brain was working in that condition

[@SuperSweetLucas]

CTE is probably one of the scariest problems when it comes to anything sports related. Even breaking a bone is whatever compared to something like this. It's literally shocking when it comes to how drastically CTE changes someone. I think the worst part of it is that they often have glimpses of clarity and understand what they've done. Awful. Just awful.

[@lugi25]

Yeah that's tragic

[@bryn1063]

The one about Belcher almost made me cry. He kissed her.. He loved her and his brain was so broken that's all he could do after this tragedy. My heart goes out to their daughter❤❤

[@tacticalmattfoley]

The reason we're told CTE cannot be diagnosed "in vivo" is to protect entities responsible for the damage (from my own personal experiences). We can do a CT scan or MRI right now and see if someone has brain abnormalities. If someone played a contact sport and has these abnormalities at 20 or 30YO, they'll literally say, "we can't know for sure until after an autopsy"...that doesn't even make sense.

[@lightfoot.2000]

Deferred liability

[@avopeac6300]

that isnt true, the bulk of damage caused by axonal shearing isn't visible on MRI or CT until CTE has progressed significantly. I know this from first-hand experience.

[@lucretius1111]

Hypothetically you might be able to use fMRI to see changes "in vivo" around deterioration of executive function. But then you're in this catch-22, because you don't have a way to determine which portion of your cohort actually has the tau plaques until after they've died. So we may have the technology to identify pathologies, but no practical way to do the research to identify the signals necessary for clinical diagnoses.

[@solomonheppner]

​@@avopeac6300 according to who specifically? Sounds like you were lied to

[@tacticalmattfoley]

​Hernandez's brain looked like an 80YO dementia patient..it was like Swiss cheese. So, an MD looks at that and says, "well, everything is fine!".....that makes ZERO sense.

[@JustinBoucher89]

NFL probably doesn’t want any tests to find it in the living. If it releases proteins and they make markers to see stuff like that better I can imagine they can look for it in living people.

[@SteezySteez2011]

Exactly. The heart releases troponin I when under stress, imagine if there’s a detectable protein for CTE that could be seen pre-mortem

[@TheSickjits]

My boxing coach has been diagnosed with severe CTE. Pro fighter from the mid 2000's up until about 2012/2013 with his last fight. 20+ pro mma fights, 10+ pro boxing matches. Came up in very old school/hard knocks style gyms. Going to war was a regular friday night for him. We're really close, we've been working together for almost a decade now. He's confided in me about some of the shit he experiences. He says often times he'll walk out of a room and completely forget why he left the room. Forgets he's holding cups of water sometimes. Constantly forgetting where his phone, wallet and keys are. He says the worst thing though, is his propensity to get violent. Obviously yes a lot of that is just because he's a fighter, getting in fights isn't a big deal to us. But he's said there's been a couple times at the house where he's started yelling at his kids and can't calm himself down. He's gotta go for a walk and smoke a cigg or a joint and really focus on calming down. He feels like shit about it, it fucks with him to no end. Sometimes when he stands up too fast or wakes up in the morning, he gets black floaters in his vision for a while. My heart breaks for the guy, I've got an incredible amount of love for him. He's an awesome dude, has a heart of gold. It really hurts to see the OGs that we grew up with suffering like this. This shit isn't a game. You can't "play" fighting/boxing. As much as you give to be a fighter, it's never enough. It will continue taking from you long after you've put the gloves down. RIP to all the warriors who have had their lives taken directly or indirectly from combat sports. I will keep fighting in your name and spirit.

[@pardok-qaza]

I think the best thing you can do in his name is stop fighting and spread awareness about risks of CTE and box-related traumas

[@Rawwdogg_teet]

I was diagnosed with schizo affective bipolar, but starting to think it was all the concussions I got in football..

[@sacredcowmars]

Genuine question, I’m not trying to ‘get you’ or anything, but why do you keep fighting if you know you might end up like that?

[@TheSickjits]

@@sacredcowmars I've been in martial arts since I could walk. To do anything different is a foreign concept to me.

[@burgerkillsyou]

@@sacredcowmarswarriors gotta fight. It’s just what they do. They know the risk. Shoutout to OP hope everything goes well for you

[@andrewflores1822]

I’m surprised no mention of Junior Seau. He was the first football player to ever bring a light to the fact that something is wrong with his brain. He shot himself in the chest in hopes that doctors would study his brain RIP Junior, San Diego Strong

[@moonriverinc7896]

An older friend of mine passed away recently from cancer and I learned that her late husband was an Ole Miss football player who posthumously was diagnosed with stage four CTE. He had passed from dementia complications caused by the CTE. He had all the symptoms like bursts of anger, lack of impulse control, and forgetfulness. His personality changed and he would lose track of sentences and forget how to speak sometimes.

[@KollektorKahn]

This topic is pretty personal to me. Being a army veteran 4 years of which I spent in special operations I have had at least 3 diagnosed TBIs (traumatic brain injury) those are the ones I was treated for. Some may not have been and even today being 27 years old I have had been dealing with symptoms you have listed. I don’t worry about myself but I do about my family. Some days are worse than others, for example not remembering if I have eaten breakfast or not. I do take medication for the aggression and depression but sometimes I forget if I take it. My wife helps me remember these days. I don’t know if you are going to read this but I really appreciate you bringing this topic to such an influential and engaging channel. Thank you.

[@coreyayers8575]

Hooah being airborne ive seem alot of people eating it i myself have dead nerves in my ankle im 30

[@Mr.Rob_Bob]

Praying for you brother. Stay strong and keep loving your family.

[@KollektorKahn]

@@Mr.Rob_Bob thanks man I appreciate it for real.

[@KollektorKahn]

@@coreyayers8575 yeah I think it should be important to seek medical attention in the army so you get compensation when you get out. Hope you are doing well.

[@forwunday8351]

Far out man 3 TBI’s is insane, I’m sorry you have had to deal with all of that. You should be super proud of yourself for being so self aware of the impact it has on you and for seeking treatment. I hope the army is providing you with the best care possible!

[@DreadedEnding]

CTE and TBI is crazy. It’s believed a LOT of serial killers suffered from early age TBI that went undiagnosed. I worked in a residential treatment center for a year, we had a kid in there with TBI who has the worst behavior I’d experienced. So unstable. It happened in a bad dirt biking accident at 14. The saddest part is how his parents would talk about how he was a COMPLETELY different person before the accident, and now there’s nothing that can really be done to help him.

[@clark2491]

U see that kid who killed a bunch of other kids in Bucks Co. Pennsylvania?

[@JoJo-209-]

​@@clark2491 explain

[@DaniCal1forn1a]

Yup, I've also noticed the incidence in serial killers 👀 specifically injuries that affect the frontal lobe

[@NotAdultingToday]

Yeah watching and listening to a decent amount of true crime, so many serial killers seem to have suffered severe brain injuries as kids. And a lot went through brutual abuse of all kinds.

[@AKAM30]

My father suffered a TBI when I was a kid, and can attest he become a different person all together. Ruined his entire life. I mourn for the dad he apparently was before the accident.

[@Paprikawastaken]

You touched on Veterans being more vulnerable to CTE, Recently especially not only has there been a lot studies on TBIs sustained from large scale concussive impacts, but also something coined as “operator syndrome” where the real life call of duty characters in the military sustain even more damage from smaller and constant breach charges. There’s a lot of interviews where they describe the horrific shit they go through in their own minds and only recently has there been a focus on trying to understand and start doing something about it.

[@RaccAttac47]

Jovan Belcher went to my high school. After his death they tore down his jersey and all his plaques and awards. What happened to his wife and what he did to himself is awful but the way organizations try to erase the memories of those who suffered is equally as bad when it those same organizations that encouraged/enabled/allowed the trauma to happen to those people

[@nomensch7664]

As you pointed out, CTE *has* been known in the medical community (US and EU) for over a century. Dementia pugilistica (Boxer's dementia) has been described in both neurological, and psychiatric textbooks as an early onset form of dementia. So this isn't a case of 'we didn't know it could ever happen' but rather 'we didn't want to look into this' on part of the NFL. Basically, from my own understanding, everyone thought for a very long time that concussions were 'nothing serious' unless you got an absurdly high number of them (a number 'only' boxers could reach). These days, we're starting to come round to the idea that any number above 'a few' might be too much long term (football, military) AND worrying that even sub-clinical concussions might be bad for you long term (head banging?)

[@hauntedcoffee749]

I just signed up for boxing last week and now I’m second guessing 🙃

[@NefariousElasticity]

@@hauntedcoffee749 You're just looking for an excuse to back out, don't be a pussy.

[@adafrost6276]

@@hauntedcoffee749 As much as boxing seems interesting, I avoid it for similar reasons. The good news is that there's plenty of martial arts that are low contact or head is off limits to try out instead if ya want to give combat arts a try.

[@TheBigMan-fr4wg]

​@@hauntedcoffee749Man I've been boxing for 2 years now and this stuff always scares me. The biggest advice I can give is avoid hard sparring at all costs. Do drilling and pad work instead. An occasional light spar session is always good, but I only do it once or twice a month to see my progress. Just stay safe and prioritize defense, and if you find yourself getting concussions, just quit, nothing is worth your health.

[@breathoffreshair7795]

I find it interesting that people will cling to feigned ignorance vs. recognize where and what they were willing to ignore for the sake of having access to their entertainment. I remember telling my mom about cte when i was a child and my brother played serious football- she CHIOSE to ignore me. Our cultures citizens must decide to be empathetic to truly change

[@DocGamerGirl]

Soldiers experience similar injuries from training and explosions in combat. I've had multiple traumatic brain injuries from deployments,it changes everything, and it's nearly impossible to express what is happening in our brains while it happens because the damage makes us unable to see it happening until long afterwards,usually too long to help. Protect your futures and make your kids wear helmets

[@nickhartwell6889]

I worked as a CNA for a long-term rehab facility that had a nursing home connected for patients who unfortunately went terminal instead of recovering. One of my favorite but saddest patients in that wing was a locally famous boxer named Theo. He suffered a hit to the head in his 40's that caused him to mentally regress back to a toddler, with even less motor function. He had to have his teeth removed because he couldn't control his tongue. He was wheelchair bound, and prefered to play with block-in-hole toys all day. His official diagnosis was CTE after suffering a fatal stroke.

[@crunchytacosupreme1597]

I work with a woman who had two concussions in the same year. She is only ten years older than me but her mannerisms have descended to that of an elderly person. She has forgotten almost everything she used to know about the job (she’s been doing this job for 20 years) and she has become extremely emotional and will start crying out of nowhere. I’m pretty sure she has CTE.

[@kohanrains776]

3:04 cte is actually way easier to get than people think, if you get hit hard enough to be unconscious you have received cerebral trauma and have minor long term damage emphasis on the minor but it's still damage

[@Shootersonly801]

As a vet and a guy that rides Dirtbikes I’ve been knocked out 10+ times concussions 15-20 times and 10 years of wrestling. I ended up getting diagnosed with TBI after I started losing my memory and my fine motor skills started getting worse. Not much treatment options but staying hopeful. Love ya papa meat keep the vids coming!! Wear a helmet. And try not to crash boys you’ll pay later!!

[@Bagel920]

One of my cousins had a Traumatic Brain Injury at 16, a brain hemorrhage so bad he had to have part of it removed. He’s doing great now but this was all due to football, a sport he and his brother had played since they were around 8 years old

[@frogperson883]

The existence of CTE makes me terrified that my Adhd diagnosis was wrong and that my forgetfulness, confusion, mood swings, depressive phases and anxiety as well as my angry outburst are just a product of my father knocking me in the head over and over for years when I was a child...

[@therewassun]

I’ve thought about that a lot too. My impulsiveness and mood swings could be a result of being dropped on my head as a kid

[@Autism_moment_of_all_time]

Your cooked

[@breathoffreshair7795]

Hun, get psychological help- commit to it very seriously WITHOUT deciding what youre suffering from- so as to prevent yourself from actually recovering. I hope you all the best and all the health (fromsomeone who grew up in a violent household and had to take years to learn how to function in a non violent and healthy way)

[@cassiemeyer1164]

I’m sorry that happened to you 😞

[@Phantom_Ashes]

antonio brown is one of the most unfortunate situations in sports history. he was on his way to being top 5 receivers of all time, but now hes a violent maniac who will eventually be forgotten

[@jaxonryder2355]

Idk I feel he will be remembered pretty well maybe not for his football skill but still remembered

[@Kaiserboo1871]

I do genuinely believe AB has CTE. He says he doesn’t, but his actions say otherwise. Now I will say that AB has always been a diva with a massive ego. But before the CTE he was at least able to hide it in public and work with his team, but after the CTE he could no longer do this.

[@shidlord72]

@@Kaiserboo1871I heard he was pretty humble before the hit

[@rottedhusband]

he’s pretty funny on twitter though

[@tobycat_1190]

I think that OJ Simpson definitely had some form of CTE and really should have been examined either before or after death. Prison guards reported him as being very forgetful to the point of where he frequently missed medication and suppertime. He even said to the news, "I have days that I can't... I lose words, and can't come up with a single word. I can't remember a phone number, so forget that." OJ himself was even concerned that he had CTE so it's a real shame his family denied an examination.

[@tobycat_1190]

Me and my mom are also somewhat concerned that my dad could have CTE too. He was born in 82 and played American football from the 3rd grade to college and throughout most of it he was a Quarterback. And a lot of people don't talk about how back then it was encouraged to hit with your head. Recently he's been struggling with anxiety and forgetfulness and had been struggling with depression, mood swings, and anger issues for a while now. Whenever there was an argument he would throw things and get up in your face and it was terrifying as a little kid to see and experience that.

[@Red_Ryan_Red]

@@tobycat_1190oh man…

[@Novsev9069]

I’m surprised they denied that you would think they would’ve allowed it and then if he did have CTE they would’ve been like see he wasn’t a bad person It was the CTE if he did have it though it’s not like it would’ve tainted his legacy more than it already is lol

[@tobycat_1190]

@@Novsev9069 I agree, but what most people don't know is that OJ's family (excluding ex-wife and kids ofc) was a real POS. I've went over, read, and listened to the case many times and everything about it still blows my mind. The jury was also reported as saying that they knew OJ was guilty but wanted to strike back at the legal system for rulling another POC guilty when he was more than likely innocent.

[@Megaman8880]

I'll never forget the Chris Benoit announcement on RAW. The storyline they were doing at the time with Vince being killed in his limo the previous week had me tuned in as a kid really curious for where the show was heading story wise, and when the show finally began, it was just Vince standing in the ring announcing what'd happened. At first all we knew was that Chris was found dead, no one at that time knew what he'd done and the entire show was just everyone talking about how great a guy he was. Most of what was shown on TV that week celebrating Chris's life has been scrubbed.

[@amazingman63]

I had a boss that got super pissy when i said little children shouldnt be bashing skulls together playing since it turns them into vegetables faster. That was 2013, 2016 confirmed it.

[@RyuTama42]

It’s wild that someone would even be upset that you’d state the obvious. “You mean to tell me the primary organ for conscious life *shouldn’t* be smashed against its very solid barrier multiple times from a young age? Clearly, you’re just over dramatic.”

[@jazzfeline5970]

I played tackle football when I was in 5th grade, back in 2008. I remember my grandparents trying to convince my parents that tackle football was a really bad idea at that age because of the risk of brain damage. They were ahead of their time. Fortunately, I quit during my 2nd season because I hated it.

[@elosacle]

while I've never had the money to get myself checked, I very much suspect that I sustained brain damage from playing football at a very young age.

[@1CB422]

@@elosacle lol just yesterday it was first day of pads and boy did i get rocked hahaha

[@Freddisred]

I mean CTE aside head and spinal cord injuries are a pretty obvious things to advocate against.

[@mattt525]

One of my best friends Dad had came to work for me (I'm a younger guy) and he was one of THE best workers I've ever had! So his wife called me and she needed to meet with me and talk about something serious. It ended up being she had noticed some small cognitive issues like forgetting basic words like think (notepad or pencil he couldn't remember what the word was) and having issues seeing things and turning thoughts to words. So fast forward 2 weeks and several doctors later and severely worsening condition. They finally found out what was going on. It was called progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy or PML. It basically is like a super charged dementia. He went from completely fine to gone in 2 months. Brain degradation diseases are the worst thing to watch someone go through. Especially for a tough ole Wyoming Cowboy type who had A TON of life to live still. Rest easy Justin we miss you!❤

[@stefenpapiez9354]

Another key point in Benoit's mental decline was the death of Eddie Guerrero in 2005. The two were practically family and Benoit was devastated by his loss, never the same afterwards.

[@glitt.r]

Soul thoroughly crushed, depressed, and ruined. thank you papa.

[@mudhutproductions]

Even without these years of ground breaking science to tell us, can we just conclude that smacking your melon repeatedly into semi stationary objects even with a helmet is bad for the health? Or is this another legal Pandora's Box being held shut because green dollars matter more than disposable athletes?

[@grimmpoetics313]

The helmets make it worse because it allows you to hit harder. Most of these people wouldn't crash into each other with such force without one.

[@HeatMiserr]

⁠@@grimmpoetics313 exactly, that’s why American football has way way more serious injuries than a contact sport like rugby where they don’t use helmets or pads.

[@TheAngryXenite]

​@HeatMiserr It's similar to boxing gloves. Punching someone normally concentrates the force of the blow into a single point on their face, so it isn't as bad for the brain (and also, people tend to hold back so they don't shatter their hands). Put the gloves on and suddenly it's dispersing all of that force out and giving you such a general walloping that you get concussed.

[@clampchamp1822]

For those who don't know, Chris Benoit's close friend and former WWE champion: Eddie Guerrero, passed away two years before the incident, which really sent Benoit over the edge.

[@mcgrihimgraham1725]

Chris Nowinski was a former wrestler that followed his wrestling career, that ended due to a severe concussion, by trying to bring awareness to the issues of CTE. Dude's done well for himself.

[@justinb8394]

This is by far the best video you’ve ever produced.

[@SilveniumTheDrifter]

The SSB sound effect at 9:46 is perfect. I love all of the tiny visual and sound effects you add to your videos to give them added flavour and humor. That's what makes them deal breakers for me!

[@whodatchannel]

The most real and informative papa meat video yet. We need to shine more light on this cause the NFL wont.

[@yasirkhan11156]

My parents said if I hit 2k they'd buy mea professional camera begging you guys literally begging😂

[@scottsspot]

Lmao the video is 2 min old how would you know?

[@scottsspot]

​@@yasirkhan11156loser pasting his comment everywhere in here, no one gives a shit about you

[@Lampebruder]

I mean that’s also why they’ve made helmets and their gear better.

[@kevinmunn666]

@@scottsspot no I'm masterbating

[@kristenporr9088]

My husband will be diagnosed with CTE post mortem I bet! Played football his whole life, semi pro, etc. As a child dove head first into an empty swimming pool, which put him in a coma for a few days. Was later hit by a high spped.motercycle less than a year after that. Was in.coma a week. Played football since PeeWees clear to Semi pro ball. In High School, playing baseball, dove to catch a baseball and hit his jaw on the ground which injured his head, and had amnesia for a few months. Then back to football and all the concussions and contusions he's had over the years. He does suffer from depression. Has strained relationships with all family members. It's so sad.

[@boboscousin]

Who would’ve thought that bashing your brain repeatedly for years would have negative effects 🤯

[@foy5051]

Go figure

[@derigel7662]

*knock*knock*knock* *NFL hit squad arrives*

[@lilmoloch]

If ryan was a 711 cashier he would be poor and instead of Bagging 50 woman he might of only got 3 girls max, so the woman attracted to hes money 80% think its a good idea

[@cayrumps3593]

@@lilmolochwhat?

[@MrDanielsahne]

​@@lilmolochim not a native English speaker, but this sound to me like incoherent babble

[@MannyNamiro]

4:13 My grandma was going through a terrible bout of dementia on her deathbed and it was the most unsettling moment in my life. The was talking nonsense but in such a conversational everyday tone. And she looked at me like I was crazy when I asked her to clarify some of the things she was saying.

[@skeletony2812]

4:53 paranoia flashing to lock the door made me laugh, thanks papa meat

[@CesRaisons]

I remember the canadian wrestler that killed his entire family and then himself due to brain damage, the wwe just erased his existence. Edit: Guys I’m sorry, I get it’s in the video. I didn’t catch the name and thought it was a similar story

[@Janny890]

I would say the steroids and the painkillers played a role as well.

[@ghoulishtoad]

The docs reviewing Chris Benoits brain during the autopsy said it was on par to someone over 70s with dementia, he was so fucked from the CTE and roids. He's more sympathetic to me than the normal killer cause again, his brain physically was not in his right mind. It's a tragic story all around and the living brothers story breaks my heart *edit, I said over 70 cause that was the number I remember, but after looking it up, it was actually on par with a 90 yr old...

[@levrithin]

guys, what's the point of watching papameat? Ι produce superior videos, and my recent is a woman crying over her dog being put down😂 .,

[@stefangreen3770]

@@Janny890 they did an autopsy and the main culprit was CTE which he suffered from since the 90s.

[@slappybigalow8971]

Vince Mcmann put on a tribute when he found out Benoit died but before he found out what he did. He walked that back real fast!

[@norielli12]

This topic hits too close to home. I had a neighbor the last two years(until a couple months ago)that use to play football at Vanderbilt that we and he himself suspect is suffering from CTE. He sued them due to what he’s dealt with afterwards but I had to get him arrested two times for breaking a boys leg for no reason, hitting people here at the gym, using our gates poles as a spear and saying he was Hercules. I had to walk the kids(including my daughter whom he followed one day) to the bus stop with two weapons( legal in FL) every morning. after he started behaving oddly. It’s one of the scariest things I have ever dealt with from someone I didn’t know and who couldn’t control his own thoughts and actions. There were two police/swat standoffs, etc. Thank you for talking about this often overlooked part of contact sports. May something be learned and implemented one day that could decrease the risk to the players and those around them 🤍

[@nagariboshiwolf]

man that is fucking terrifying, i used to have a psycho neighbor (unrelated to CTE and not to this high of a degree as yours) who was very unpredictable and unstable and belligerent, i really hope you or him ended up moving away because my god i would be terrified living like that daily, especially WITH MY OWN CHILDREN

[@devildogs37]

What’s messed up about this topic is that we only see the surface (professional athletes who’ve done tragic things). Never hear of people who’ve only made it up to HS/College level and suffered multiple head injuries during their time. I played contact football from 5th grade all the way up to JV HS (2003-2009). In 5th I remember being told by inexperienced coaches that you need you lead with your head when tackling (basically spearing - which was found to be very dangerous). We had contact days were we were instructed to just run into each other “to get over the fear of hitting each other”. Those drills we didn’t even have a ball, we were formed in a large circle (~10 yards) and coaches would pick two people to run at each other. My first year I was hospitalized overnight for major concussion (was the first play of a playoff game and I got trucked by a kid that was 4 years older than me and outside league regulation weight and age). I tell my wife that if any of my boys get into football, I am going to do my best to steer them towards being a kicker

[@The_Kelt]

Curls are absolutely poppin’ today, King.

[@NCC-nk1tm]

You know it's bad when PAPA MEAT puts a disclaimer in a video.

[@be3p]

he doesn’t put a disclaimer for child sexual assault stories, so no lol + that’s the bare minimum js

[@michiganmafia]

I respect PapaMeat for his capacity to make both hilarious videos, as well as serious and/or intellectual ones

[@Vashy_Slashy]

Better watch all this before it gets taken down

[@yasirkhan11156]

My parents said if I hit 2k they'd buy mea professional camera begging you guys literally begging😮😮

[@Mrcoolfish2]

Real

[@milerik1]

guys, why watch papameat? Ι produce superior videos, and my recent is a woman crying over her dog being put down😂.,.

[@WhixMaster]

Fr

[@levrithin]

guys, why watch papameat? Ι produce superior videos, and my recent is a woman crying over her dog being put down😂.,.

[@beebodude]

God, I still remember being a kid when the Chris Benoit thing happened. WWE ran a whole memorial episode for him the day it happened and the very next day it broke what really happened and they raced to erase any trace of him in the company.

[@cleverusername8319]

14:59 I can respect him realizing that it wouldn't be safe for his daughter to have him around, though I wish he didn't take his life

[@bostongeis5123]

Hey papa, my cigarette water is almost empty, fill it up or I’ll eat your window caulking

[@brandonjerome]

Be careful, papa can control fire

[@tux_duh]

Papa's put of smokes, I have an old coke bottle with dip-spit if you want tho

[@AngstUrnacht]

Neuroscience student here - amyloid beta plaques and tau tangles are found in Alzheimer’s patients. They are the exact same observed in CTE, among other encephalopathies. Whilst these are horrifying, the repeated head trauma that results in CTE has to be constant and is usually caused more during boxing training than a few concussions (which are obviously still dangerous, of course). The reason the plaques form is due to the brain trying to heal itself in any way it can, but like in Alzheimer’s, this causes inflammation and your glial cells basically kill your own neurons. It’s important to note that many people can have the plaques and proteins but do NOT have Alzheimer’s and CTE symptoms. A lot of it is genetically based. We have the ability to actually remove beta amyloid plaques but it doesn’t cure Alzheimer’s (which my grandma had unfortunately). Also head banging can cause strokes in rare cases but to my knowledge isn’t linked to CTE, although it can’t be great for your brain stem lol.

[@alexransford9635]

Came here for an answer to the headbanging thing, I've been a professional death metal vocalist for over a decade and that was the first thought I had 🤘

[@bdc_ky]

Exactly! It’s the repeated head contact knocking em around but sometimes those bigger impacts can knock em loose too. Best of luck on your neuroscience adventure!

[@Apothecarial]

Like rock and roll head banging or like banging your head on stuff?

[@AtomicDonut4444]

​@@Apothecarial rock n roll head banging. The other kind is how you get a concussion (or CTE if it's a constant thing)

[@cam5816]

Is the brain stem important?

[@reneemachuca3026]

And this is the reason I’m not doing sports in high school

[@colinm8200]

Interesting enough, Henry the VIII of England might have had it too. He was charming, strong, DAMN good looking for the 1500's. Like every Princess in Europe wanted to marry him. But in his late 20's, he got into a BAD jousting accident where the lance slammed his head. He survived, but after that, he became more and more insane and angry. Soon getting super fat and short tempered, killing 2 of his wives and divorcing others over pretty silly shit.

[@erreyakendo8290]

There is a lot of pathology we discovered that can be a justification for why a historical figure act that way. The only sad answer is we will never know for sure, unless human can time-travel somehow, that if is physical possible not theoretical possible, and study using today knowledge to confirm.

[@gerryfegan3608]

Bro shush ​@@erreyakendo8290

[@SavagePassion666]

It was actually two different jousting accidents that nearly killed him. The second left him crippled for life. His horse literally fell on top of him and they struggled to get him out.

[@music79075]

​@erreyakendo8290 well some we can know for sure. Specifically the ones we know had Syphilus and we're treating it with Mercury.

[@gerryfegan3608]

Why the f*** am I getting comment replies for this

[@solazul_1]

4:51 “ranking tv dinners”😭😭

[@sherri6890]

I was looking for this comment before I posted it. He is so clever!

[@jeofbrinclhof7861]

"LOCK YOUR DOORS" 4:54

[@Ianrahn12]

The editing on the stage 1-4 explanation was top tier. Well done.

[@12jacobmar]

Concussions are no joke. My town had a kid pass away just a couple years ago after he got a concussion playing football. They sent him back out and he got hit again. Died nine days later.

[@itscarissaa3396]

hunter i appreciate you talking about this. those poor men under go through some serious serious head trauma that affects their daily lives. yes some of these men have done awful things and at the end of the day they themselves did those awful things, but these contact sports are the underlining cause to why they do out of pocket behavior and it’s really refreshing that a bigger channel is talking about topics like this.

[@justaguy138]

I love all of your stuff whether it's horror, comedy, and whatever else but this is probably the best thing I've seen you put out. It sticks with the dark themes of some of your content but it's coming from a good place and informative. I've played contact sports my whole childhood and been in the military for 18 years following that. The concern for the potential of this stuff is daunting. Getting this info out there even in the "smaller" communities of YT is a great thing for people who otherwise don't think twice about a health issue they can't physically see.

[@Gtfo_Kenny]

Turns out the real hidden killer was the friends we killed along the way

[@kevinmunn666]

I'm good

[@finley07]

Put the fries in the bag

[@TygerHillis]

@@finley07how unemployed mfs feel after saying “put the fries in the bag”

[@PickleNick7008]

@@finley07 this isn't tik tok so please take your brain rot over there, thanks.

[@Idiot_Sandwich-]

Amen Kenny

[@MYNAMECHEF_FilthyFrank]

Everyone thinks they're invincible until you get a brain injury. I know people who have been hit once and got in a crash that wasn't major, and now they're completely different people than they ever were. It is really sad and somewhat scary to see. You never know which loved one's a bump away from changing forever, and that's one of the scariest parts of life.

[@elizabthharris6741]

My mom died in Aug 2022 from this. She had sudden aneurysms and a week and a half later died. I was septic in a different hospital, delirious, so no one told me til I was stable....airlifted to same hospital about two weeks later. Her husband kilked her. Too many head traumas from forty years of beatings. He died three months before her. And I feel abandoned again, since for forty years she chose him over her children. And it's hard to get past. She was getting more and more confused over the last few months but we realized after the fact, she could have had symptoms for years. Locking her keys in the car sometimes three times a day?! Forgetting so much, and we just thought her flakiiness. He would beat her in front of us, I still hear her jaw breaking to this day. I was 8. My sisters were 9 and 4. My mom left him the last ten or twelve years of her life...but she still cooked his food and did laundry and stuff once a week. Also ran his bill errands.

[@SchlomoKiddheimer]

Lmao

[@es4152]

If I remember correctly for us soldiers who get CTE it is actually possible for our jobs to do it. Having to fire to many mortar rounds, artillery, firing rocket launchers AT4, and a few other things. I have a buddy who tells me in his unit he had fired 8-10 Karl Gustov rockets. I’ve fired a lot of 120mm mortar rounds and im pretty sure it rattles our heads although not everyone will be affected as much. Gunning and never taking head off mortar sight. It’s sad but definitely now people who exhibit those signs and or anger more know after our service. Not many people care about the service members though they aren’t famous enough so thanks for including us

[@Dayman98]

Yes it degrades the brain, ots how a lot of soldiers get shell shock

[@sinner2133]

I’m absolutely deathly terrified of the idea of my parents developing dementia. It’s such a scary, shitty disease. I don’t wish it on my worst enemy.

[@susiew2521]

A month ago, my previously sharp as a tack 84 year old dad had a week of very odd behaviour. It seems as though it was an infection, but it was terrifying. Suddenly this man who I've relied on for 49 years was a shadow of his former self. When the time comes, I pray he goes with all of his faculties present. Anything less would be an insult to his memory.

[@CarlosGonzalez-pe8qr]

17:41 Good God, you guys give a trigger warning, but at the same time ADD A sound effect of someone getting unalived? Class act.

[@BepTweBot]

I love hunter’s little movie recommendations here and there during these videos, for example this videos recommendation was “Drunk Love” Papa Meat “Good movie”

[@carterhollman7190]

CTE related curriculum was taught when I was in high school a couple years ago. Crazy that we know so little about it, and that the same teachers who were trying to inform us about this terrible disease were the same people going feral at the stands on Friday nights.

[@raphk9599]

The old drink the blood of the young. Get used to it.

[@alecmacgillivray7793]

There is a documentary looking at Chris Benoits last 20 matches seeing where it seems he suffered some sort of concussion and how his wrestling and whole body image changed towards the end before the incident

[@RyanJohnson-ks1me]

Concussion? More like, Concussion? More like, Concussion?

[@derigel7662]

Dude are you following me.........why did you look at me

[@GarratMcCullough]

So to answer your question at the beginning, head banging would not cause CTE fortunately. Because a key factor is force. Though chronic moshing might cause it but i was apart of a study when i was playing college football where we had crash test sensors placed in our helmets. The study was a collaboration of my school (U Hawaii), Indiana University, South Dakota State, Pittsburg State in Kansas and Sawanee in Tennessee. Along with some major high school, junior high and elementary school programs in Texas and Florida. Basically from 7th grade to major college football you were sustaining head trauma the equivalent of hitting a brick wall at 60 mph almost every play that you got hit. For the 6th graders and elementary kids the trauma wasn't as severe obviously. Plus, in that age range helmets actually helped prevent trauma. They also looked at soccer players in the same age range. The level of head trauma was worse in the youngest group (3rd to 6th graders) based on frequency of head trauma and force being hit. But as they got older the soccer players frequency dropped significantly and decreased their chances of CTE. Meanwhile for American football it was inverted. The older you got, the more hits you sustained and the ferocity of the hits increased. They found out it wasn't player to player contract causing the majority of TBIs and CTE in soccer players. But it was headers that caused it, either from accidentally head butting another player. But also just the fact that you're stopping a 70 mph ball with your face or forehead caused the most brain injuries.

[@rat_dragon]

We researched CTE in high school. You have no idea just how important your video is. Keep making vids like this. It's time CTE and other less-known illnesses are brought to light.

[@CarrionKnight]

I did rugby, wrestling and football for years. Part of the reason people get concussed is that they aren’t taught to tackle and fall properly, football is the worst for this, a lot of kids run in and hit with their helmets rather that their shoulder pads. The other issue is that some people hit harder than required and try to injure people, I’ve seen it mostly in football but the goal is to take people off the field to make the other team have to put in the B team. I see a lot of people say we need to stop contact sports, which is false, what we do need is comprehensive training around concussions like we do here in Canada. When I played the first week was focused around concussion safety and the basics of tackling, I was even required to sign up and work with a concussion clinic continually. Youth concussions in sports make the ones in adulthood more severe.

[@tgi3d881]

Except you can't stop it in something competitive. Like football or boxing. I remember in high school we had a lineman who had to take an entire year off for treatment. When he was back on the field the plays went back to usual where he took massive hits and wouldn't go down. He was very erratic and couldn't function socially very well. In one class I had with him he just started talking about his suicide attempts and when in treatment nurses having to restrain him because he would wake up in a panic. Everyone on the football team at my high school said they would not let their future children play. And with how competitive it is to make it into the NFL there are parents forcing their kids to play so they can get into the NFL. It's the closest thing we have to a bloodsport today and there's a big fight to keep the sports alive. In order to reduce concussion pads need to be removed and we go back to leather helmets. As for boxing it just cannot exist or needs an actual limit on how many fights a boxer can compete

[@erreyakendo8290]

First thing is need to create safe rules to reduce the possibility to have a concussion and awareness to get treatment as early as possible to evict to create a for live problem. Second thing is forcing the company that earn money to start doing that instead of looking on "How much I will profit or loss today", forcing to see profit as the third thing to worry about. This usally is the one mostly try to stop since well, too much money involved, CEOs and whatever C peoples wanted to earn their bonus that is 100 times than worker wage. Third thing is keep researching to understand more and more how can make that sport safer, and try to keep the spirit of competitive below the spirit of well being of every participant.

[@bivtheast]

​@@erreyakendo8290 there is no treatment though

[@erreyakendo8290]

@@bivtheast It's true, maybe the word I want to express was medical care to see if there is possibility to avoid more complication? Like cancer, if early diagnostic, when doesn't had showing symptoms, the chances of treat is way bigger, so who know, maybe on first hit on the head and doing early diagnostic can give some hint that can be control and give very few cognitive problems for the rest of life.

[@CarrionKnight]

@@tgi3d881 I would go one step further and say no pads at all in football, there is a psychological thing where wearing pads makes you feel invulnerable, it would also probably make the game more dynamic. The reason I say this is that I probably only ever saw 10-15 concussions in my entire time playing rugby (8 years) because people made sure they tackled low and properly to not get injured, while during football we had a concussion every game. Women’s rugby is a different story, from what I saw of my sisters games they had three or four concussions a game. With boxing it’s probably better to have it in the ring with padded gloves, since a lot of those guys would just go to street fights instead where you can get punched in the back of the head and BOOM neck down paralyzed, BOOM, Blind, BOOM, mentally handicapped forever. Having a boxing match in a ring with rules significantly reduces the risk of head trauma when compared to a street fight. CTE is brutal, especially when people are young but there are ways to prevent it regarding culture, I think the biggest thing would be to probably be to limit the number of concussions sustained during a career, like you can have three concussions before you’re out for the rest of Highschool. Another thing you have to be careful of is that some people purposely fail their concussion baselines to get back in faster, so a lot of people were still essentially concussed on the field because the baseline test they did was way too low, it was essentially as if they had a toddler do their baseline.

[@ThunderBunny30]

A cool thing about Chris Nowinski, he played football for Harvard and was in the WWF/WWE for a few years in the early 00s. Now he is helping former WWF wrestlers with law suits concerning CTE and other neurological conditions developed from pro wrestling.

[@Person-um9zd]

Im actually really glad that a bigger KZbinr is covering this in a way that people will actually want to watch it because as a MMA fighter people don’t understand the risk of what their doing a lot of the time

[@CPBRENNAN23]

Papas hair looking full and beautiful today. Mullet rockin harder than the 80’s!

[@piranesi06]

have to watch immediately before it is reuploaded

[@yasirkhan11156]

My parents said if I hit 2k they'd buy mea professional camera begging you guys literally begging❤❤

[@theonlybilge]

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[@IBeNerdy76]

For those who didn't know about chris benoit, there is also some more context i should add. Chris lost 2 of his best friends(Eddie Guerrero and Johnny Grudge) a year before he took his own life(in the case of grudge, i believe it was 2 months before the accident) Chris was so struck with grief he made a journal to write in as a way to "talk with eddie". It should also be mentioned that chris is not a saint. Many wrestlers like the Miz talk about how chris was a bully who would harass and assault new talent and shoot(basically inflicting real damage in the ring on purpose) on them. WWE had a really bad bullying problem until around 2015, when it stopped cause rightfully it was stupid to bully people cause they got hurt on accident or because they didn't stick to their character outside the ring. Many people, including Benoits' other son wants to wrestle to honor the legacy(the good parts anyway) of the benoit name

[@doofwarrior9912]

I have permanent damage from high school football alone I cant imagine these professional players my shoulder pops all the time from a RB hit

[@davidjairala69]

Who else is having anxiety thinking about every time they hit here head and every time they couldn't read someone's nonverbal communication

[@MattnessLP]

Not to sound like a dick, but I am not surprised CTE is such a big issue in the US. With the violent full-contact sports being so popular there and health care (especially for mental stuff) being so embarassingly bad, the US sports scene was pretty.much destined to become a hotspot for this disease. And that the big leagues and sponsor corporations wanna sweep this under the rug so they can continue to rake in those profits is also peak US.

[@liquidorion9250]

While it definitely appears to be more of an issue in the US, here in Europe it's only slowly becoming a topic for football players (soccer for all the Americans here), especially taller ones that do a lot of heading (which shouldn't come as a surprise, trying to redirect balls coming at your head with up to 100 km/h for years ain't too good either). Unfortunately a lack of protection and education isn't limited to the US.

[@ShaddySoldier]

Wait until you find out about rugby and how violent soccer can get hahaha

[@MrThankman360]

Well, we have the best healthcare in the world here in the US. What you are referring to is our health insurance, or rather, some people’s lack of it,. If you have a decent job, if you can afford it, you have the best healthcare on offer. But, yea, if you don’t have insurance, it can be rough. You can still go to the ER or Urgent Care as often as you need, no need to pay upfront. And there are loads of medical programs, grants, and Medicare systems in place, etc. I think people living in Europe or Canada, that have never lived here, have an unrealistic picture of what our healthcare system is. Sure, we don’t have “paid healthcare as a right”, but we do have loads of programs and safety social nets. And if you have health insurance, you are more than covered on the basics. Expensive surgeries, especially elective surgeries, may cost extra, but I think that’s the case in Europe and Canada too right? And, when we go to get procedures done, we don’t have month or year long waits like I hear can happen in more “universal healthcare”-based nations. Most times, our healthcare is top notch, edge of science, clean, etc. I guess both systems can have their issues. Nothing is perfect, right? And yes, football can be dangerous. Like motor sports, or boxing, or X-Games, etc. But every year, and medical science improves and things are discovered, football has changed. From improvements in pads and helmet designs, to changes in rules for how and when you can tackle, to advanced medical screening tests before and after games, to top of the field medical treatments post-game and post-injuries. There’s reasons by football players have always wore loads of pads and helmets where rugby players do not. It’s more contact than rugby, but yea, rugby hits are nasty too. And they don’t have helmets to help cushion hits and falls. While there is truth in what people say and assume about football, healthcare, and many other things in America, I find more often than not, what people believe is usually an exaggerated caricature rather than experience or fact. Human nature, I guess.😅

[@pbsuite]

​@@liquidorion9250 come on , soccer has very little head contact , and that's mostly during corners Its barely a head contact sport and the medical treatment is immediate once stuff like that happens , games aren't even allowed to continue incase of head injuries

[@liquidorion9250]

@@pbsuite Tell me you don't know much about football without telling me you don't know much about football. You know, you could just do one single Google search to find out that head trauma isn't just an issue in American football. Just because in that sport you are literally supposed to smash your head into as many people as possible, doesn't mean other activities can't also cause head trauma. Some first class ignorance there.

[@CEOofCEOs]

It doesn’t just affect sports guys, us combat disabled guys suffer from them as well, sports brain injuries tend to be a slow growth whereas combat guys especially those who have been exposed to explosions every single day and or have been blown up a few times develop the injuries at a rapid rate. I suffer from TBI + CTE + PTSD plus a slew of physical injuries and upon my discharge from the military, I was advised to keep stimulating my mind and keep myself in top physical shape to slow deterioration. lol I went overboard You can still function well, can relearn control and skills, just got to have a strong support system

[@Odiseusthelegend]

I’m so sorry brother.❤ what’s is the toughest thing to deal with

[@Addicu]

At 1:30 an "expecially" was detected.

[@williamteller9375]

20:31 - And not a joke to be made...

[@brunodangelo1146]

Who up creepin- oh wait, wrong channel.

[@FreakTesticals]

YOU NEED TO LEAVE

[@ctobolsk]

I was honestly kind of relieved when my son decided he didn’t want to play football anymore

[@zacharywood9416]

Frisbee golf is fun and there's zero tackling involved if you're playing with the right people lol

[@slothboi7131]

That's good his brain health will not be at risk