Pass or Fail: Citadel Paint, Hobby Box & Rack

[@spikeybitstv]

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[@dannyshadbolt7103]

A year on and as a new player. One thing I can really take away from this , is not storing my paints sideways. I wish I would have known this a few months ago , it would have prevented my girlfreind nearly beating the shit out of me. RIP carpet.

[@roycetrounson-art]

Hand sanitizer gets it out real easy.

[@mattcappelli5822]

Always appreciate your unboxing videos, especially for gear and non GW minis. I've learned a lot from this channel and have found some awesome companies because of you guys. Thanks!

[@sunseekerjules]

I like the paint box and I might pick one up since I'm having a hard time storing my Citidel paints in my current paint box (which is a large tiered makeup box). My shade pots currently stand upright but the larger texture pots are too big and have to lay down anyways so I don't think it would bother me too much on the painbox. Texture pots are so think they don't leak very well thankfully. Thanks for the review! I wanted to see the box before actually spending the money on it first!

[@LoneTurtle10]

these gw boxes and racks feel incredibly cheap for the price you're paying. the miniature carrying cases and foam inserts also feel cheap for their price.

[@mjburden8086]

Yes but then the miniatures are expensive didnt stop me buying 1.5 k points of space marines and orks and the crusade case.

[@masterofblades8960]

@@mjburden8086 It's hard to play Warhammer without the figures. But you don't need the citadel carry case to play.

[@Doodlebob563]

Been using paint pots along with other styles like dropper bottles for a lot of years now and they're fine. If you are getting paint so jammed up under the lids of your pots then that's a you problem, not the manufacturer's. A lot of the biggest painting channels on youtube either have these on their walls (ms paints) or even just jumbled up in a big drawer (eons of battle).

[@TheOppl]

These products could be useful, but honestly the terrible seal quality on GWs paint pots mean I would literally never, ever risk it.

[@cromwellthesynth]

You could use those indents at the bottom of the case to lay your brushes if you are concerned about the paint seals surely?

[@idr121]

I am actually a huge fan of the Citadel paint rack. In my country it's a pain in the neck to get access to miniature paint racks and I did not feel like getting one abroad. As such had to settle for a Citadel paint rack. My thought process was "whatever, how bad can it be?" and for me it actually does exactly what I wanted it to. I tend to keep my paints lying around my desk like a chaos for the miniature/color scheme I am currently working for, so for that kind of purpose the Citadel paint rack really is pretty great. I was super worried about using the legs at first, but in a vertical position it feels really secure. I will say though, that with legs I would not feel comfortable loading the whole thing full of paints, but leave like the last row empty. Probably would not buy it if the convenient selection was better than it was, but if you need a decent fix for moderate amount of chaos, highly recommend.

[@striker5327]

Hey rob, i tell other people to do this as well with gw paints. Just cut the tab off the back of the pots with a sprue cutter. Sure, you cant hold the lid open by use of the tab after you cut it, not that keeping it open is a good idea anyway since gw paints dry really quickly, but you will be able to fully close the paint pots much better without it

[@TerpeneProfile1]

kidpainting 10 I never thought of that ! Thanks a lot man, Great tip.

[@spikeybitstv]

Indeed solid tip, thanks!

[@striker5327]

@@TerpeneProfile1 true. I typically use Vallejo for everything. But some of gw's base paints are very good and are a must use. Like mephiston red, retributor armor, and bugmans glow.

[@TerpeneProfile1]

@@striker5327 i have a wide variety of paints as well and enjoy them all :) Vallejo and Scale 75 my favs

[@thomasachhireddy8483]

one thing i have started to do is use my texture tool, GW has for terrain paints, to scoop out what paint i need and put it on my wet pallet. So far it has worked great, and keeps the top really clean.

[@PhilipTosh]

They actually fit in the bottom of the cases, snugly in fact with no movement. That way you're not resting your full paint/project box on top of your foam that's holding your miniatures

[@kalag666]

I am disappointed that the bottom horizontal paints rack does not pull out and can't be replaced by other hexagonal paints racks...

[@LittleIAO]

I think these are terrible and especially for their insane cost. I use a $5 tacklebox for on the go hobby and it's perfect. You can scale up from there.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

I bought an awesome plastic waterproof dewalt toolbox with a clear front and about thirty interchangeable compartment bins. It only set me back $16 dollars. I plan on custom cutting some foam for my minis also. I like the tackle box idea. I'm gonna get one for my paints, brushes, and modeling tools.

[@LordGuntharUthMatar]

solid review. thanks for the up close look. I too do not like the horizontal paint storage. I'll keep using my older project box and "lap table". I might be in the minority but I still have a number of paint tops that are the hexagon style and they do not fit in the circle style paint tray. Do they fit in the new hex paint tray, could that be a nod to the old school GW painters out there?

[@nevzilla]

I think I might grab me one of those paint trays. I have a vibrating shaker I want to use, but I need something reliable to hold the pots in place. This might be exactly what I need as it would be easier to hold the tray in place then one pot.

[@Akhaandir]

The bottom storage is a good idea for the larger shade bottles. You don't have the crud buildup in them that you can get with regular paints, at least in my experience.

[@spikeybitstv]

True, well I guess unless you count the texture ones maybe? Key here is to be careful really!

[@Akhaandir]

Yah, once i get some textue paint and one of the citadel carry cases, i'll probably keep a couple spots in the foam for the texture paints

[@snickdesnick]

B+Q, extendable shelf toolbox - £20. Much better out there than GW.

[@Feyknir]

Is the old hobby box not superior? It covers everything. Tools, paints, brushes and even has room for miniatures.

[@PhilipTosh]

Feyknir shade paints don't fit in the old hobby box, and there's not a secure place to lay them down.

[@todsmith6591]

old Rob def wouldnt use these--nice review though. I agree they are crappy and cheap.

[@williamwinn948]

I always clean the back of the lid on my pots to make sure they seal shut

[@todsmith6591]

after doing this for 35+ years--aint worth it. Get the dropper bottles. Paint pots suck bad.

[@the13th]

As far as GW options is concernes its probably the best version theyve released so far but id definately never get one personally

[@johnmiddleton4291]

It seems like the paint pots might be tough to pull out of a fully loaded tray or are they not as close together as they appear in the photos?

[@sbengholm]

John Middleton was wondering the same

[@spikeybitstv]

Good point as well. I should have addressed that. The middle hexes are actually raised a bit for the very reason it seems.

[@timkapffenstein7494]

I have the ne paint box and it works quite well. The paints are relatively easy to take out, even if they are loaded flat. All in all I have to say the box does what it is promised to do. Sealing of GW-colours might be a good point though.

[@johnmiddleton4291]

Thanks for the extra info. I think I might grab a few of the paint racks and wall mount them at a slight angle just to clear up desk space.

[@thomasachhireddy8483]

@@spikeybitstv I actually picked up some myself the other day. The raised part does help, but i would make sure to grip from the side if possible and careful to not pull your paints out by the lid. I could totally see someone doing that.

[@maxm04a]

I think a white backdrop may be more effective. Found it difficult to focus on the items with the black background (this may just be my eyesight but I thought I’d mention it 😅)

[@FranzBazar]

Nice video, thank you! I was trying to listen closely at the end to the better solution you mentioned, that can accomodate both GW paint pots as well as paint droppers (e.g. Vallejo). I couldn't make out what you were saying - Could you please reply with what that is (with a link if possible!) ? --Thank you for the excellent video!!

[@spikeybitstv]

Its probably the "go" bag here bit.ly/Creaturecaster I forget what i was saying lol.

[@BenReynoldsDIY]

you give good information and i like your channel but DUDE 5 ads in 9 mins of video i didnt skip ahead...i dont know if its your channel or youtube but each had 2 ads and first was an unskipable one.

[@spikeybitstv]

It’s yt you must not have gotten any ads yet that day

[@BenReynoldsDIY]

@@spikeybitstv yea you were right did not happen on another video.

[@nerdytom6881]

Thanks for reviewing this. I have the Ultimate Paint Set on order at the moment, which is a good deal as Citadel pricing goes for the volume of paints involved. This assumes you dont pay full retail price though. £175 is too steep, £140 however is pretty good. For that you get the larger box, 42x 12ml pots, 11x 24ml pots, three brushes, clippers, mold line remover and painting handle. There is another smaller set which has the smaller box almost all the paints but none of the tools for £125/£100. Also a good deal if you like the Citadel range. Good selection included too, but focused on chapter colours. the full colour range including base paint and both layers are included for the Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Imperial Fists and Dark Angels. This is perhaps at the expense of a broader general range. So for example all the greens were Dark Angel armour related, or orc fleshtones i had to separate order camo shade greens. Overall there is a lot of overlap between this set and the old layer paint and base paint selection boxes, and bar the narrow but deep selection of blue and green colours (- ALL the blues are Ultramarine related) its a fairly decent compilation of colours at least to start you with.

[@mywrongways13]

Can you give a link to the dropper bottles from Amazon?

[@spikeybitstv]

Sure here is the whole article on how to do it. Takes about 3-4 hours for 100ish paints. spikeybits.com/2018/08/the-secret-to-making-gw-paints-last-longer.html

[@todsmith6591]

watch his whole video for the decantering of the old pots--has the link in it . worth watching.

[@vallytine]

I feel like I'm buying completely different paint pots, mine haven't come so much as close to drying out especially over the intense summer we had that lasted until october, and I've had most of them for over a year prior to that. As far as good quality brands go, GW Paints are one of the cheapest options here, too, around £2.55 a pot. (Vallejo and Reaper are 2.70)

[@thewok]

GW prices everything at a premium in the US. The small clear cap pots are about $4.50, white caps are more, at about $6. Air colors and large shade pots are just shy of $8. Interested in Daughters of Khaine? in the UK, a box of Witch Aelves is 35 pounds. In the US, they run $60. And the pound isn't that strong. I certainly don't expect an equivalent price due to international freight and the like, but man, do some of these models and paints get expensive. (A can of Retributor Armor spray primer runs $28.) Meanwhile, Reaper sells their paints for $3.69, Army Painter is $3.25, and Vallejo goes for $5-6. So, GW isn't the most expensive paint here, but it's up there. I just got a set of the paint racks last night, and I'm not impressed. The paint fits snugly, but there is no room to read the labels. You pretty much have to pull pots out to see the labels, or note the color on the top of the cap somehow. I'm going to shove this thing in a drawer and pick up a nice laser-cut paint rack I saw on Amazon.

[@Docleegb]

What do you use that is cheaper? I replayed the video several times but you said it so fast that I couldn’t make it out. Would love to check it out.

[@spikeybitstv]

This is what I currently use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJbHm2SYp5dod7c I bought an artists easel to prop the foam trays up vertically as well when they are not in the bag.

[@hojocollider5276]

The paint racks are terrible, they're good for transport and that's about it. But after a while GW paint pots stop closing properly due to paint accumulation on the lid, so a risk to run in one of these cases. The battle figure cases are so impractical, and cause more breakage due to parts getting caught on the foam. If you want figure transport, I can't stress Battlefoam enough.

[@spikeybitstv]

I used to use the BF hobby bag, but then switched to the Monument Hobbies one when he came out with one i liked better: bit.ly/monumentpaint

[@hojocollider5276]

@@spikeybitstv I use the Pro Acryls by Monument Hobbies, truly some of the best paints I've ever used. They have some really great stuff. Every hobbyist needs to learn about Monument Hobbies.

[@spikeybitstv]

@@hojocollider5276 I agree Jason and his team are really dedicated to making quality products

[@deende79]

like you did say ... there are better solutions :)

[@hansyolo8277]

12:09 You could by 3 or more for the same price. That's not just "expensive", that's absurd and a waste of money.

[@TylerNGOakley]

Anyone know what the weird shaped square holds and notches in the bottom of where you put the paints are?

[@spikeybitstv]

Sorry i thought i had explained the square ones were for the different positions you can attach the feet. The circular ones are for screws so they can be mounted on a wall and such.

[@TylerNGOakley]

Thanks, i probably missed it!

[@spikeybitstv]

Here is the whole article on how to decant your paints into dropper bottles. Takes about 3-4 hours for 100ish paints. spikeybits.com/2018/08/the-secret-to-making-gw-paints-last-longer.html Also i didn't think about it in the recording, but there are no spaces for things like the paint handles or water pot either...

[@kevinhasty4583]

@@magunra3k only wasteful if you spill your paint as you're transferring. After that, they actually save you paint.

[@TheWilcoxExperience]

@@magunra3k never thought id meet someone else who feels this way. I'm always scratching my head when people go on about how amazing dropper bottles are.

[@Ch0lera]

Looks like you could store your hobby tools in the bottom shelf of the first case

[@deanofcool]

Been thinking about buying a storage option for my paints, (in a shoe box right now) but honestly all these options look terrible, can’t we get a case where the paints are stood up and multiple layers that are hinged so that when you open the lid it slides into place so you can see what you have. Like traditional art sets do. This is disappointing and looks like the are staying in the shoe box for now.

[@CosmicDuskWolf]

I made paint racks out of cardboard that has never given me problems and it was way cheaper.

[@wolfmanhcc]

The fact that you needed to look up how many paints the tray holds when the tray is right before you is silly. This product seems okay.

[@mikem4432]

like you said repeatedly, putting the GW pots sideways down, not a good idea.. does GW know its own product?

[@shanetonkin2850]

To be honest in over 15 years of modelling I think i’ve only ever had one gw pot leak, and that was a shade and I was being careless and didn’t close the lid properly. It’s not really GW’s fault If people don’t look after their shit properly and end up ruining things.

[@todsmith6591]

amen man! GW pots blow!

[@todsmith6591]

dang man... I wouldnt go back to GW paint pots to save my life.

[@redgreen09]

whell a may be still like my yeah old one an 1900s make up travleing box has has all my stuff see as post

[@babyboysmooth1353]

I managed to break the corner of my skirmish case right off

[@Toaster-v1z]

I never shake my paints. By keeping paint off the lids they seal like new and don't dry out. But I do have dropper envy.

[@bwtrader]

Probably just buy the trays ...

[@Ubermatt147]

I used the paint rack at the last open day and I wasn't too keen on it. I use 2 of these elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/scenery/ttcombatcata/bases-tokens-and-misc/citadel-mega-paint-rack-60 and will probably get a third.

[@Ilidan1985]

I don't like their approach... selling something fairly designed but bad quality just to maximize income. Personally I prefer wooden ones with good wood paint on it and brass finishes. If you buy self-assembly set then price should be similar.

[@northy179]

seems dumb, looks annoying to remove bottles to shake and use, you also don't have good visibility of the color labels and citadel didn't have the foresight to put labels on the caps as well. Like none of this seems to fit within a normal workflow.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

These don't seem like they're worth the money.

[@MisterD90x]

pretty much everything GW does bar the models just is not worth the money they want, you can get better elsewhere

[@mintymoore6054]

TAT

[@zestypenguin8011]

doesnt fit vallejo? easy pass.

[@SgtOddballz]

Pvc pipe is cheaper

[@Sturmtruppe1997]

Its a joke.