Peavey 6505+ vs Bugera 6262 Shootout Comparison || Cheap Tube Amp vs Real Deal!!

Classic shootout between the Bugera 6262 and it's inspiration: the Peavey 6505+.
0:48 Shootout/Comparison in a Mix
3:30 My Thoughts
Who won? Who's next? You decide! Oh wait... wrong series.
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Lead Channel Settings:
Gain: 4
Low: 7
Mid: 4
High: 7
Volume: 3
Presence: 7
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Low: 6
Mid: 6
High: 6
Presence: 6
Bright: On
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Peavey 6505+ vs Bugera 6262 Shootout Comparison || Cheap Tube Amp vs Real Deal!!

[@agufish]

Who won? Who's next? YOU DECIDE!!

[@Slyness64209]

Have you ever been interessed by Orange amps? It would be fun to hear a Dual Dark next to your Marshall maybe!

[@Saiko_Drums]

Agufish I see what you did there :P

[@whyuyellinginmyear3476]

Have you tried the Engl Fireball 60?

[@MB-yw3pv]

MESA REC VS BUGERA TRI REC? IF YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON 1

[@bricms]

MB215 Fluff and Ola do this on their channel ...

[@OfficialFistikunch]

Wow it’s crazy how high pitch your voice sounds in these videos lol

[@bipbipletucha]

Ikr

[@joshuasalgado4694]

He makes his voice deeper on purpose.

[@smeemusic]

Was gonn say something too.

[@florian_thrash]

He sounds like a woman lol

[@jw11432]

In this comparison, the 5150 has a slightly better sound but I know it can be easily corrected with a slight tweak of the EQ on the 6262. Perhaps bump the mid up a bit, maybe a tad more presence? Otherwise they are remarkably similar sounding. Having said that, they do differ a bit design-wise. For instance, the 6262 has 6 preamp tubes whereas the 5150 has only 5. I know that this translates to more gain, but if this is different, I wonder how else the circuit differs. Regardless, the 6262 is an incredible amp. Funny story time: back in January 2009, I bought a 6262 brand new. It was one of the first gen models that were susceptible to it's issue that unfortunately tarnished their reputation (molex connectors using pins that had too high of resistance, causing melting of the connector and continuity failure). This happened to mine, so I popped it open and fixed it with my soldering iron. No problems after that. Fast forward to 2013, situation changed and needed to sell as I needed the money more than I needed an amp. Recently bought a TriRec as I'm getting back into playing and realize I don't like it at all, it's just not voiced to my taste in a metal amp. So I start looking around last weel and spot a 6262 on ebay and it just so happens that the seller lives in the next town over from me, a small music consignment shop. So I buy it on ebay, go pick it up after work and immediately notice that the power tubes have the stickers on them from tubestore.com, where I've always bought my tubes. Then I notice a small tear in the tolex on the front where I seem to recall having the same mark on my amp...I thought, there's no way this is the same amp I bought back in 09...so I open the amp up and see the repair I did. As if that wasn't enough, as I was looking through old emails, I found the old registration email I sent Bugera and I was able to match up the serial number, positively confirming this is the very amp I bought nearly a decade ago. And with that repair holding up, it's still rocking.

[@Rouwiinator]

Still a better love story than twilight.

[@dokterkarel]

what 5150?

[@ontologicaldiarrhea6582]

@@dokterkarel Well, 5150 is similar to 6505 (not to 6505+ though).

[@siggiarabi]

@@ontologicaldiarrhea6582 5150 is the old 6505

[@ontologicaldiarrhea6582]

@@siggiarabi sure :)

[@dez1989]

Honestly, you can't beat the sound for the price of these 6262 heads! I listened to this and I was quite surprised and impressed by the 6262. The Peavey already has that pedigree. You know what you're getting with the Peavey 5150 and 6505. With the Bugera, it's a shock. I didn't take this one too serious at first! You can find them for 300.00 or lower all day long. What a value! I'm sold. Ive got a 6505 and the EVH 5150 III with the EL-34 tubes. I'm going to buy a used 6262 and use it to play out! That way I won't beat up my 6505 or my 5150. Damn! Thanks for this video! It sold me on the Bugera. From what I've read, the comments are overwhelmingly positive about the 6262's longevity. It's hard to believe how positive it's reliability is too!

[@rammsonne]

There's a lot more definition and clarity in the notes of the 6505. A bit more top end, the Bugera sounds great, a little darker and warmer so to speak. Good shoot out man. I enjoyed it as always.

[@bradhargis2261]

SDRmusic I agree. I was looking for the same words to describe what I heard. The buyers sounds a little "looser" in the way it saturates. It's kinda softer distortion which makes it sound a little fuzzier and less defined whereas the 6505 was tight and defined so the individual notes were heard better.

[@genustinca5565]

Indeed. Peavy has a bit more bite. More definition. I like that.

[@miko8732]

that's the case with a lot of bugeras, if you replace the tubes then it sounds closer since bugera tubes aren't the highest quality

[@PeteKaltsa]

I turn the presence all the way up and then dial in the treble, never more than 3 or 4 max, and it sounds the best that way. A really great sounding amp and I looked at the guts and build quality is solid, with good quality parts

[@christiancaygle1692]

I second the tube replacement and can verify that,at least in my experience, mesa or JJs are the way to go

[@atrocity35]

I've been playing thru a Bugera 6260 Infinium for a couple years now and it's absolutely the best amp I've owned to date. I also have a Laney Ironheart IRT-120, but find myself bouncing back to the 6260 regularly. I just really dig the tone of the 6260 over the Ironheart. I played thru a Peavey 6505+ and really dug it, but being on a budget the Bugera just fit the bill. I'd definitely recommend Bugera for any guitarist on a budget. They really can't be beat. The Infinium technology is a game changer. I did replace the stock tubes with some JJs. The stock tubes were quite noisy and created a lot of feedback. With the JJs and an ISP Decimator, the 6260 kills. I'll probably sell the Laney and grab a Bugera G5 and 1x12 cab for bedroom jamming. I like Bugera that much. Great budget tube amps.

[@MiikeyLawless]

Gabriel Allec im the opposite. i prefer my IRT to this. laney is really a hugely underrated brand.

[@Rushtallica]

I previously owned a 5150 head that I sold and checked out the Burgera combo clone at a local music store as a possible replacement. It sounded horrible and definitely not in the same league as the old 5150 combo I used to play through at a friend's house. Surely the speakers didn't help, and maybe that was the entire problem. Regardless, a couple years later, I got a 6505+ head for $599 that's lasted 8 years since then with no problems, and I paid only slightly more for the real thing. I easily acknowledge that some such as Ola make the Bugera amps (and pretty much any other possible piece of gear) sound great. But even if my experience with Bugera was similar, I'd rather pay a little more for the original amp. Regarding the Laney, I had a VH100R head.The cleans were fairly good, but the gain sounded funky to me, kind of 'boxy' and like some frequencies were notched out.The 6505+ definitely sounded much better IMO. But I previously also had an old Laney AOR 100 watt head. Paired up with a tubescreamer, that thing was a beast and sounded huge. I also preferred the cleans on it even though the tubes were el34's Vs the 6l6's in the VH100R. I regretted not keeping the AOR but was glad to regain the space the VH100R occupied for years. Anyway, just my experience, and maybe I'll get a chance to try one of the Bugeras through a good cab. Ultimately, whatever works best for each player. 8)

[@fredriksvard2603]

Gabriel Allec being better than a laney doesnt really mean much

[@ukmanthailand]

@@fredriksvard2603 A bit like your ignorant comment then.

[@atrocity35]

Still have the 6260 and currently using it in my band. The JJs are definitely a needed upgrade. Miss the Laney sometimes, but then I plug into the Bugera and remember why I kept it. Still a great budget clone. Yeah not as good as what it's trying to be, but it does the job for me.

[@MikeCarpenter222]

I actually just found a Bugera 6260 in a pawn shop for $240. I played it in the shop and it sounded pretty beastly, so I couldn't help but pick it up for that price.

[@albertassociate]

I recently got a Bugera 6262 Infinium and I've also owned a couple of 6505+ in the past couple of years. The Bugera completely blew my mind. I was looking for a back up amp and I think I found it. Tone-wise they're basically the same amp with the Peavey sounding just a bit better but playing live you wouldn't noticed the difference. Now, built wise the Bugera does have some issues, I bought the Peavey secondhand from a friend who kept it mint and bought the Bugera brand new. The Peavey was a year old when I bought it and I've owned it for the past 2 years and it is built like a tank. The Bugera, being brand new, after just a week of use, one of the rubber feet came off while I was loading it up to my truck. Not a big deal, just changed the rubber feet to better ones but the quality is a big difference. Otherwise it's a kick ass amp for the money.

[@poulwinther]

Replace the tubes with 6L6GC's and it will be even better. The stock tubes are not very good.

[@LukeDKramer]

Awesome Hunter! So here's my thoughts listening on my studio monitors. Tonally, the amps are voiced very similarly (obviously haha). That said, the best way I can describe it is that the Peavey just has more..... everything really. It's brighter, deeper, punchier, tighter, and the mids cut through like a knife. Listening to the two back to back, the peavey just jumps out of the speakers in a way that the Bugera doesn't. The articulation also goes to the Peavey because the Bugera seemed to "mush out" the notes ever so slightly which makes the Peavey seem clearer. But again, they are both extremely similar to the point that the cost difference isn't as justified. The Bugera does have much better cleans though. It'd be interesting to see a comparison of the two crunch channels back to back. That's where the "brown sound" is in these amps. P.S. I'm glad I finally swayed you Hunter ;) Keep up the good work!

[@TonyHookedonVanlife]

I liked the slightly lower-mid push of the Bugera, and for 1/2 the price, I know where my money would go. Great demo.

[@SirLoin187]

Dude im so used to your newer videos and your voice is so much higher here!

[@heylookitsn0ah]

Yooooo your voice sounds so much higher in this video than in your newer vids!

[@pterantula]

Every amp needs an "Add Balls" switch.

[@agufish]

Absolutely

[@stellarfellar9960]

pterantula I think that's the gain 😂

[@Fektthis]

I think it's actually the one marked "volume"

[@craigbowman272]

It's called the pickups in your guitar!

[@Ottophil]

That exists. Its called the BBE sonic maximizer

[@ToroKchannel]

I do prefer the bugera. A bit warmer, a bit more low mids and though it's a bit less precise it never gets muddy. Gonna get my hands on it :) Thanks for this comparison !

[@dalepal]

Both amps sound very similar though I liked the Peavey 6505+ better.

[@spkay31]

Great video recognizing the strengths of each amp and video shows tonally they certainly match up very well against one another.

[@jayz6008]

They pretty much sound identical, and any little difference in the Bugera can probably made with a little eq-ing or tube swap..Those bugera tubes are good, but there are better tubes out there that'll improve its sound so much more

[@Zodicus]

The ultimate high gain solid state battle: Peavey XXL vs Randall RG100 vs Orange CR120. ;)

[@Admiral_Bongo]

Ampeg VH-140C.

[@Whitefox-pc7lp]

Admiral Bongo also Crate Tidalwave/vtx350

[@UndeadGeneral98]

No-no the Randall cyclone, the same on Dimebag used

[@josephsmith8087]

We all know the true solid state battle is a line 6 spider, blackstar solid state, and boss katana.

[@HateRedStephen]

@@josephsmith8087 line6 what now? U serious?

[@Slyness64209]

This is surprising me, but I think, even without the price difference and only tonely speaking, I'd go for the Bugera (and this is getting me really happy because it's the one I own ^^). It's only personnal opinion tho, they sound really similar, but I think the Bugera is more crunchy and dirty, when the Peavey is more precise, but I like my guitar sound like I like my women : fat and dirty! Oh wait...

[@agufish]

lol oversharing?

[@alexanderfriessnig9865]

Siraël Sombrelame io

[@donovanolguin977]

Siraël Sombrelame I'm thinking of getting one should I switch out the tubes or get new pickups

[@thrasher2094]

Siraël Sombrelame You're not supposed to tell people about riding mopeds man. That's the point of riding them

[@sawyerc.6033]

This post wud never have been made if you had only been patient enough to wait for the real thing..... If you didnt already know you made a bad choice, you would not be up here checking out soundclips, you'd be enjoying your amp. But that's a difficult thing to do after you drop $600 n realize its NOT a 6505+, nor will it ever be so.

[@StarkJJ]

Peavey is brighter without compromising low-end. Peavey wins🤘

[@JosephCee]

I'll take the Bugera hands down, especially the newer infinium. For how great Bugera heads feel when you play them you wouldn't think they were so inexpensive. I've had the G20 Infinium for 3 years now and it does not feel like a $300 head, the build quality makes it feel like a $1,000 head, Im not exaggerating. I had an EVH III 50 for a day and although it was a brutal sounding amp I couldnt stand how cheap the thing felt when turning the knobs. I returned it and stuck with my reliable Bugera G20 that I bought for a fraction of the price to begin with. The 6262 Infinium is totally going to be my next amp.

[@mujepaula7048]

The resonance you refer to only adds a shrill element in my humble opinion. I like the slightly darker sound of the Bugger. And as always, KZbin compression of both audio and video never really lets your eyes or ears get a taste of the real world. Great demo. Wish I could have heard what you heard. And like Mario Bertino said in the opening comments.... "Dead heat until you figure in the price point, then it's Bugera all the way." For 90% of us out there it's tone for the buck..... Reliability is a close second on that if not virtually impossible to distinguish between the tone quest........

[@Djepooko]

Remember to retube. I have pre Infinity 333Xl-Head with TungSol preamp tubes and JJ KT77/Svetlana El34 power tubes and just got newer Infinity 333XL with original tubes. With same setting and through same VHT-cab retubed just slays while with original tubes lacks everything in sound and it's propably played only

[@denverwilliams22]

Bugera didn't do too bad, but 6505+ takes the gold.

[@nickolaynaydenov3292]

Nothing the EQ on the amp can't fix ;)

[@mariobertino7865]

Lot of people on here trying to "show their ass" and look like some kind of sound engineering expert but if you ask me these amps sound nearly identical. Maybe the tiniest bit of a richer sound on the Peavey but not enough to pay almost twice as much for. Bugera sounds great at the price point. I understand Bugeras have a reputation for reliability issues but judging purely by sound I'd say you would be crazy to pay a grand for the Peavey when you could get nearly the same amp for just over half as much.

[@VHT418]

I actually thought the bugera sounded better in the video, go figure. But when reliability its concerned, I'd take the peavey any day of the week. You can find a used 5150II/6505+ used for around $500-600 easily. Hell, a few summers ago I picked up a clean 5150II head with a valveking 4x12 cabs for 500 bucks!

[@mariobertino7865]

If I find a deal like that I am taking it! A friend of mine has the peavy 6505+ and it sounds absolutely amazing. I just don't want to spend that much on an amp.

[@VHT418]

Just keep an eye out on craigslist, ebay, letgo, and guitarcenter used on their website. You'll find one.

[@skubadoobie]

Mario Bertino I own a 6505+ it’s great I love it, got it for 600 used. You can’t beat that price and this amp is a beast. My friend has a bugera. I’ve played both and in the same room. You can really hear the differences there not the same, you can tell bugera modeled the amp after the peavey but besides some similarities there different. You wouldn’t be wrong getting either amp, but id say get a peavey if you can find a deal.

[@jketterman6054]

I think they sound the same. One thing I noticed when I had the Bugera is that when you turned up the gain, the low end came along with it. When you backed down the gain, the low end tightened up. Both are great amps, but the price of the Bugera is hard to beat.

[@joshbarnes6759]

That rec in the back slays them all. Mesa master race.

[@jdssurf]

Certainly hear the difference, surprised so many of you don't.

[@jgmopar]

I can hear it. the Peavey is brighter and a bit tighter sounding. But really close. I own a 6505+ 112 combo and I love it. I also own a Bugera trirec and I love it as well. My 6505+ I like without a boost I don't like it super tight.

[@yadiryplata6245]

I want something in between these two

[@yadiryplata6245]

Like i wish the chugging on the 6505 was thicker and chunkier

[@CREPERUM]

You know bugera has cheap shit valves, unlike peavey..that s the difference. Changing the valves in both amps to the same configuration will result in the same sound. Or at least close. Not all valves of one type are the same, also bugera might have done some mods other than the added reverb and removal of resonance

[@ontologicaldiarrhea6582]

@@CREPERUM They are different. I tried both of them (and have 6262 at home ;-)). 6505 is more tight and overall I prefer that tone.

[@axzelis1996]

I personally loved the Bugera, however, Peavey 6505+ remains my favourite amp I've ever heard. I can see why people choose Bugera on a budget though. And as usual, great video dude!

[@agufish]

I agree, and thanks man!

[@axzelis1996]

No problem, my dude!

[@DMHProductionsStudio]

add a sonic maximizer in the fx loop on the 6262 and you then have your own custom resonance

[@ryan_riffs]

A sound sample from a mic'd cab woulda been cool too.. I know it's more work and mic'ing cabs isn't easy but hey, not everyone can afford a twonotes box.

[@agufish]

it would be cool.. if my neighbors let me use a cab :(

[@ryan_riffs]

Have you thought about getting an ISO cab? I'd kinda like to get one myself.

[@agufish]

haha yeah I have, they're pretty pricey though and I have no idea where I'd find the room to fit one

[@krenshawtheman7055]

Regardless to whether or not they solved the issues in the Bugera amps, I will never own another. I bought the first 6262 that came into my local music store. It lasted all of 3 days. Brought it back and swapped for another. 2 days later...dead. And that wasn’t the end. I ended up with 4 different heads that we’re brand new in the box and not a single one lasted more than a week. Luckily I had just bought one to keep at my rehearsal space, so I didn’t have to chance using one live. When they were operational, they sounded great. And that is a big “when”. Other than that they were nothing but boat anchors.

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

Yup, those Bugera amps always suffer from reliability issues. No wonder me and my buddies call it the Bugged Amp, it's an amp with plethora of bugs. Instead of buying a Bugera it's better to spend a bit more and buy one of those amps made by Jet City Amplification. I've never faced issues on them.

[@roybunch4997]

i have the 6260 infinium and it kicks ass however i do love peaveys and plan to own the 6505 soon..probably the litttle 20 watter for bedroom gigging..great shootout sir.

[@sawyerc.6033]

I don't knock ANYBODY for liking their gear, or for liking certain gear enough to buy it (assuming you DID bother to try it to see if you liked it, n didn't just buy it because it looked a little similar to another product which had already been time tested n proven to sound great, and someone somewhere told you the vaguely similar looking one "sounds just like" the expensive one)... BUT, guys watching youtube to get an idea what a tube amp really sounds like really have ALOT to learn yet, and are likely much better off sticking with their Solidstates. First n foremost, if you want to know what a tube amp is going to sound like, there is NO way of getting around it (CERTAINLY not watching a computer screen), you're just going to have to go out and PLAY one for yourself! On these videos, the sound you hear is been run through who only knows how many effects (which effects tone whether they're on OR off), then through a cab, which you can figure YOU most likely won't have the same one, then through a microphone and into a CPU, which you won't be using if you are just playing live. And once the sound hits the cpu it is processed in some way shape or form. Also, and while I cant speak for a 6262, the 120watt 6505+ head is made for loud, Loud, LOOOUD that you wont just hear, you will also FEEL. But, you guessed it, NOT on KZbin. Part of playing through any given tube amp is like anything else musically, its whatever YOUR ears like. You gotta PLUG UP. Because these kinds of amps are made for rockin' ARENAS, and they have to be CRANKED to saturation in order that they sound as they should. And TRUST, when its cranked, YOU WILL feel it too! There's no better sound in the world! And while I'm subscribed to this channel, I gotta say, as much as I've enjoyed the great RIFFAGE, this shootout has made me feel sceptical at the very least, about whether or not a line of credit or free gear may be tipping the bias scales here. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with using a 6262 in the least! When I was looking at tube heads, I took a 6262 into great consideration. It IS a good POWERFUL head n will crank some great tones.... HOWEVER, I have had the chance to play em both side by side since I settled on n bought my 2010 USA 6505+ 120w head. And I picked up on NOT so subtle differences pretty quickly. Quite a few of these are issues I'm positive a GOOD Re-Tube would help with, but still, the 6262 is exactly what it IS... An amp built to be as much like a 6505+ as possible, using a much less reputable factory (yes, I DO realize 6505+ is made in China now. Doesnt change that fact. ) There's a VERY good reason 6262's are half the price of a 6505+, and where they're built, n by whom, n HOW is a large part(s) of the lower cost. The other variable, and this is the main one, is the parts/components/materials that go into them, and Bugeras, are built with components which are nowhere close to the better/higher quality stuff used by Peavey. There's just no argument to be had in this case. I'm not saying 6262 is inferior product. But it IS NOT a 6505+, and it NEVER WILL BE, not just because the 6505+ has Resonance control either. Keep it on "0", and the 6505+ will still MORE than outshine. Change every tube in a 6262 for JJ's, and STILL......... NOT A 6505+..... If you like the way Bugera sounds n feels to you, buy it. But if you're looking for a 6505+ and can't afford the new one..... Buy a good used one, or SAVE YOUR MONEY and wait it out for the new one. But DO NOT let ANYONE try and tell you that a 6262 will be the answer, because eventually, you'll play the 6505+ and wonder why in the HELL you let yourself get talked into SETTLING for something OTHER!

[@nscharafanow]

I've owned both, currently still own the 6505+, and they do sound similar fairly similar when recorded but in person it is a massive difference imo. The peavey sounds like cranked, blow your ears off, and shake your walls low end. It sounds immense and the burgera just didn't do it for me. Hence why it's gone (: when you play a 6505 you definitely feel/sound like the bands who use them. Quality peavey is also way better. At least the USA one is. Love your demos/reviews BTW ;)

[@agufish]

Thanks dude! And I agree. I was really hoping the full low end of the Peavey would come through in the recording, but it really doesn't. I was pretty happy that I found a 2006 Made in USA Peavey on Craigslist for cheap :)

[@williamroyagoncillo]

Why don't you have a ton subscriber yet, you're videos are too straight forward and easy to jive with!

[@agufish]

i think if I were hotter I'd have more subs

[@RavageRitual1986]

Bugera has a tone that I prefer more

[@bmwm3comp]

The peavy is a little more refined but it should be they have a been in the game a lot longer. Personally I wouldn't mind having both. However I own both burgerars and a 6262 combo and an infinium run through a peavy slant cab. I had a peavy valve king when it first debuted and it sounded awful. I've owned these amps quite a long time and the only issue I've had is the 6262 input jack breaking had it fixed for 15 bucks plays like a champ. I can't rave enough about the 333xl it sounds amazing for the price point!

[@MB-yw3pv]

GOOD TO SEE THESE 2 SHOT OUT VS EACH OTHER, I'VE HEARD(NOT SURE IF ITS TRUE) THE 6262 IS A 6505 CLONE AND THE 6260 IS A 5150 CLONE, BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD ITS JUST A REGULAR 6505 CLONE, NOT SURE WHICH IS TRUE

[@agufish]

the 6260 (no longer in production) had a single EQ for both channels like a 5150/6505, and is a clone of that amp. The 6262 has a separate EQ for each channel like a 5150II/6505+ and is a clone of that amp. The 5150 and 6505 have identical circuits to each other, as do the 5150II and 6505+.

[@georgyj111111]

Liked the slightly softer tone of the Bugera.

[@TobyKBTY]

Definitely the OG Peavey. Sounds meaner and more pissed off. But in a room setting, I bet both sound massive and thick though.

[@SomeUnkindledAsh]

For my money, the Bugera is just fine. Considering you can damn near but 2 of 'em for the price of the Peavey. The 6505 tone is my fav metal tone. The open chugs on these sound incredible

[@zacthe1st455]

I personally prefer the 6262. Not just based on price, but the fact it has a bit more grunt than the 6505. Great video btw

[@Kerosenetrewthe]

Peavey sounds a tad brighter. If all settings are the same and the Bugera gets a bump in the treble, I bet they both sound really close. But as is, not too far off. Nice video, thank you.

[@HauntedGuitarMan]

made in america i like. i had a 5150 for 14 years as a teen and never changed tubes. beat the hell out of it and it still worked.

[@rustymcnally]

I've always loved the sound of bugera amplifiers. However I have heard utterly terrible things about their reliability.

[@daddysullivan87]

These are the Infinium series it fixed all the bugs They had

[@jw11432]

The big issue Bugera used to have is fixed now, and it wasn't even that big of a deal if you're good with fixing things. The issue was a bad batch of connector pins they used in some of the Molex connectors, they ended up having more electrical resistance than they should have, so they tended to generate heat, melting the Molex and killing the connection. I bought a 6262 back in like 2010/2011, and it happened to mine, so I just removed the connector and all that and soldered the wires directly to the board. Problem solved. I'm at a point where I'm no longer playing semi-professionally, but I would really like to play with that incredible tube tone again that makes me want to play. But I'm trying to decide between another 6262 and the Trirec.

[@billwhite9703]

I have a 6262 and had the same problem with it. Once that was fixed there was no looking back. A great amp. However, I would buy a Trirec if I purchased now.

[@AJbassist]

i am so pumped u got proper 6505plus now :)

[@dokterkarel]

that riff you played was pretty awesome

[@PippPriss]

One keen to electronics can add a global resonance on the Bugera by changing one resistor by a 1Mega Ohm Pot, logarithmic. Only "down" you have is that the resonance control is then valid for both clean and gain, no separation possible as on the 6506+ without digging more into the electronics. The "default position" Bugera has set the resonance resistor to matches about 9 - 10 oClock on the Resonance knob on the Peavey.

[@matttaylor1449]

Peavey sounds tighter to me. Maybe it just responds better to the TS9 or maybe it has better circuitry and head room. The Bugera sounds great, a bit muddier to me but that's dependent on taste. Nice demo.

[@WesleyGrant]

Hey man, another great video. Another question for you... before you had the torpedo live and used Wall of Sound, were you ever able to find a cab that actually sounded good? I can't seem to find one. Thinking 3rd party IR's are in order. The torpedo live seems to sound wayyyyy better than WoS (which is expected).

[@agufish]

Nope lol. The impulses I use now are custom-made. I bought the Torpedo used, and the previous owner had a studio where they mic'd a Mesa and Engl 4x12 with a couple different mics at different positions. I don't use any of the Two Notes IRs because they didn't really fit the sound I was going for.

[@WesleyGrant]

Agufish Thank you for the quick reply. Ever thought of selling your custom IR's? I've enjoyed the sound you get in many videos.

[@agufish]

If I can ever get my lazy ass to get them off the Torpedo, I'll offer them as a free download. The previous owner made them, so it's not really my right to profit off them

[@WesleyGrant]

Ah yes, Understand that. Well, hope you do it someday! Thanks man.

[@evillano]

subtle but significant difference

[@ameer_saban]

My man put a capo on his voice

[@musictechnique]

The Bugera has more fizzyness and less focus. The Peavey is focused, has way more bite and just plain sounds higher quality. But of course it's twice the price. The Bugera could probably get some well crafted post EQ and sound really close, if not nearly identical as they have extremely similar gain structures. If you have the cash, of course get the Peavey. If you're looking for a good tone on a budget, the Bugera is solid option. It just may take a littler more time to get a polished finished project/recording.

[@DCWelker]

I am guessing it might be the stock tubes in the Bugera that might be holding it back. It really is a great sounding amp

[@DisturbedBurger]

The 6505 definitely sounded sharper and in focus as well as having fast, snappy transients. The Bugera's sound is slightly veiled and "undisciplined", but I can appreciate it's free spirited openness...it's like a brilliant, delinquent 18 year old that keeps folding with pocket aces, with a thousand in modifications it will be as good as a $3,000 amp

[@ammostockpile]

Bugera! Dude you write the best riffs! I swear if you made a record I'd scoop it up day 1.

[@agufish]

thanks man! I've been trying to work on my atrocious mixing and mastering skills so maybe sometime soon

[@joeabrenica4467]

I got the Bugera, yes it sounds amazing at gigs/recording and it’s cheap! Never had issues👍

[@markamerica2580]

Love the good ol' pure american high gain shootout! I would go with Peavey for the same reason! Resonance is crucial for metal rhythm!

[@Hellbilly1969]

Peavey is more toppy but the Bugera has more balls and floors it on the low end. Could you gig with the Bugera though, as far as reliability is concerned.

[@agufish]

Interesting, I think exactly the other way. The Peavey absolutely destroys the Bugera on low-end thanks to the resonance switch. I guess it's more noticeable in a room since it affects speaker movement?

[@xxmarshallowsxx-videos2381]

Exactly, Peavey is much better.

[@sawyerc.6033]

The balls is strictly a matter of where the resonance is set on the Peavey. If the Bugera seems like its got more 'chug', its just an EQ thing. While one IS infact designed and manufactured, for the most part, as a direct copy of the other, they still will not sound alike even if you were to mirror their EQ and have them sitting right next to one n other. The means by which theyre manufactured are worlds apart, so theyre gonna sound different. But that Resonance control gives the Peavey the upper-hand in the low-end department all day long, everyday. There's so much low-end there that it can easily get to be TOO MUCH real quick. Ive got a Bugera TriRec... Direct Copy Of a Mesa Triple Rectifier. Even so, its a different beast all together ultimately. TriRec is tighter n brighter than the Mesa. I like the tone of my TriRec better n would choose it over the Mesa any day, but really its all about personal preference. Im not at all, in any way trying to say I believe the Bugera is the 'better' amp, but I do prefer it personally. Bugera makes great stuff. Buy one, hell, just TRY one n take it for an honest spin, if you got a spec of honesty in your soul, you'll have no quams admitting its got it where it counts in spades!

[@MazterofPuppetz]

With the way a tubescreamer affects low end and midst you should really do these with no effects. Just my opinion. Keep up the good work.

[@agufish]

I see your point, but like the way it sounds with a Tube Screamer, and since it's extremely common for metal players to use a TS to boost 5150/6505 lead channels I thought this was more useful as a real-world usage comparison.

[@markamerica2580]

Agree 100%! Had the 5150 III before Dual Rec & Mark V! Couldn"t imagine using a high gain amp without it ever again!

[@PeteKaltsa]

I have a 77 Marshall JMP / Reissue JTM45 / JCM2000 and a 6262 and honestly I prefer the Bugera out of them all. I only paid $100 for it!

[@Fektthis]

what difference there is sounds like something you could adjust with the EQ. not that it would take much tweaking at all.

[@1000BrokenKeys]

peavey has more bite in the top end which makes bugera bassier - still without loss of definition but that can be eq-ed . Otherwise identical tone quality indeed. Regarding the listener: Playback and place in the mix are equally good. Question is: which playing experience is more satisfying for the player ? Thanks for the demo, cheers

[@PeteKaltsa]

I’m keeping my 6262 for life

[@jimidgaffigan8731]

The peavy sounds more...solid, upfront and real, but the tones are very close. The Bugera would be my first choice because I absolutely love my G5 but the 6262 sounds just a little thinner, actually reminds more of a Krank amp, dime style distortion.

[@donovanolguin977]

I really want a 6262 now it actually sounds pretty good

[@wyndorphstormcrow8372]

I loved my 6262 it was my fav of all the amps ive owned

[@HateRedStephen]

I play this amp with decent high gain pickups, and it is one of the best i ever played, pure based on sound. I do have a VH4 lying around, which is more of an indestructable work horse, but the bugera, despite the fact that it's a very fragile amp, is definately a would bang. I would take it over peavey all day long..

[@dametalone]

As an fyi, there is a mod available to put a resonance control on this amp. I believe you remove a resistor and wire a pot in its place. I have a write up for this. Hit me up if you or anybody wants this.

[@agufish]

Yep, I actually was going to mention that but forgot. I think you've linked me to it before. Personally, I don't trust myself to mod an amp without disaster , but for the more technically inclined that is a great option for a true 6505+ clone.

[@jtbranman]

I really like the Peavey. It has that iconic sound. The Bugera is similar but has it's own sound, not bad but not the 6505. I think it is a good idea to spend the additional money for the 6505 to get the reliability. How many of the Peavey 5150's are still going and the 6505's; quite a few. Time will tell for the Bugera.

[@e10meessen]

Too bad you didn’t plug in straight into the amp. I mean a TS9 in front tightens things up, but colors the amp real sound too. Having that said, good comparison and the Bugera is not far off and could match the 5150 by tweaking a bit. How is the reliability? Can you gig with the cheaper amp?

[@melandy191]

I think bugera is awesome for a guitarist just getting into playing shows or just wants an amp to jam with friends. You have all the head room you need for metal. That being said I think it's hard to make a sure judgment against the peavey on just listening. Higher priced amps have a certain feel and response that the lower brand amps just can't match. I think each has a perfect place depending on your budget.

[@agufish]

Seriously. If you're not a touring musician and you can get a Bugera that sounds this good for $300-ish used? Take it.

[@melandy191]

Agufish completely agree. Thanks for all the awesome videos!

[@kickinvideo333]

Boosting the lead Channel of a 5150 is like adding putting slicks on a Corvette

[@gregorp8406]

Peavy sounds somewhat more mid frequency articulate, a bit louder and maybe aggressive. But the price difference evens the two

[@Chris-Ian]

Dude your voice sounds so much different lol

[@threeletteragent]

I think the Bugera has a more scooped tone, and the Peavey has a more chuggy, rhythmic tone. I think you could use both amps for different purposes, the Bugera for a more traditional, thrashy lead tone, and the Peavey for a thumpy rhythm tone.

[@danieljwillen1993]

NinjaSpaceMonkey Or just use both:)

[@georgbilek1503]

I guess i would definetely go for the Bugera, since I dont feel like they sound different enough to justify the price difference (but well, Im not standing right in front of those amps, maybe that would change the sound drastically). And since im based in the EU where I can get the Bugera new for 490€, while the Peavy would cost me (also new) 1300€-ish, I cant find any valid argument in favor of the 6505+ that defends the 800€ difference between those 2.

[@agufish]

I feel so bad for you EU folks. This Peavey 6505+ is a 2006 (back when they were made in the USA) that I got off my local CL for $340...

[@PaTiFoN18]

Price - Bugera win Sound - Peavey win

[@DrumRoody]

Why was your voice so high 2 years ago?

[@Malleuss]

For the cost alone, I'd go for the Bugera being that they sound almost identical.

[@MetalHeadHippie]

The Peavey has a more mid presence to me and over all clarity of tone. But for me I would stick with Peavey for build quality. I like the tone for price thing, But after Seeing the many issues with Bugera amps in general in the quality control department is enough for me to pass for now. Man I wanted a Trirec. Good Job Budz.

[@solidsnakec20]

i like the peavey, but i bet if the settings werent identical, you could make the bugera sound the same

[@boristsonev8174]

I don't know why but that bugera is surprisingly good and beats the mighty Peavey at some points. First(second) comment by the way hehe

[@agufish]

Bugera's are incredibly underrated when it comes to sound. They have a terrible rep because the pre-Infinium models they released 10 years ago have an unfortunate tendency to blow themselves up :(

[@scottmurphy4719]

Agufish you should throw a tube screamer on your DSLH that will rock hard too!

[@ElectricalPorkChop]

The Peavey sounds better to my ears... but not $450 better. I'd probably buy the Bugera and use the rest of the money to get a few effects pedals.

[@bavarianrocker7621]

In my opinion the Peavey 6505 won that match. I think it was clearer, little bit more precise and rounder sounding, but with the price difference in mind, the bugera is still an option.

[@slaveunit22]

Adding a resonance control to the Bugera isn't that difficult. It really adds a lot to the sound IMO.

[@poulwinther]

slaveunit22 Show us the schematic please :-)

[@DCWelker]

I am really looking forward to plugging my Schecter C-1 Platinum FR Sustaniac through the Bugera. I am wondering if I should run my digitech RP-7 through the effects loop. I don't need the distortion from the pedal, but, the wah, delay, flanger, ect would be extremely useful, not to mention having a pedal for volume instead having to adjust the amp and my guitar volume as much.

[@masonmead9434]

I honestly like the bugera more

[@jeremyhuet8408]

If you consider that the 6262 cost about the HALF of the 6505, for nearly the same tone, the 6262 clearly won at the price/sound ratio.

[@jimmynator666]

Bugera of course

[@christopherhuff3123]

The "add balls" switch

[@metalsquad3845]

Did you used any effects? Its sounds amazing

[@Whitefox-pc7lp]

Truly, they're close enough to just put an Eq pedal/rack on either one and call it a day.

[@INeverWanted2010]

The Bugera gets pretty damn close (close enough, in my opinion) considering the massive price difference between the two

[@kmfdm5]

They sound identical obviously, but the Bugera 6262 sounds cleaner. The original peavey just has more power

[@christopherhuff3123]

Resonance adds balls!

[@andrewspruyt1108]

Damn, the Bugera is actually chunkier and thicker than the Peavey in my opinion. I actually prefer the Bugera tone!

[@JanXD]

They don't sound the same with the same settings but I'm sure you can make them sound the same.