Perfect Paint WRONG Parts! Toyota Sienna 3.5

[@MJ0781]

When Ray can replace and entire Engine and Transmission but a silly side view mirror gives him trouble just like anyone else…priceless 😂 goes to show we all get frustrated and have issues with the littlest of things 🙏🏼

[@joenmass]

The gas lid paint color is not off, it’s the slightly faded paint on the vehicle that is causing the very slight mismatch. With a little rubbing compound to bring the old paint back to original shine and you wouldn’t know the difference. Also, when you do any bodywork where a tool has the potential to scratch the customers paint, I always put at least one or two layers of masking tape on areas of concern.

[@DonsJunkmail-vg1wt]

Joe M...hope it's not a pun for Joe Momma!!!

[@CameronDC-Grimes]

The paint shop is supposed to match the paint to the current color of the old door, not the OEM color.

[@newsnowriversidesgtrock]

Love that "Gravity."

[@superdivemaster]

Paint Matching ... excellent !!!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Aftermarket mirror is also missing the Electrochroming glass darkens with high beams also looks like the oem mirror also has a defrosting feature as well @Rainman Ray's Repairs

[@kd23se4]

The aftermarket mirror is also missing the electrochroming (goes dark from high beams behind you), that´s why the original glas is thicker and has the plastic frame

[@dback68]

Looking at the wiring harness there are definitely a few extra wires than just ground and power. I wonder if that original mirror also has a defrosting built-in as well? I am not familiar with that specific year model.

[@kd23se4]

@@dback68 must have defrosting. The original BMW e39 mirror with elecetrochroming is around 300usd and the aftermarket with only defrost 1/10 of the price. Probably Toyota is not much diferent

[@Google_Is_Evil]

@@dback68 It has defrosting, he calls it a heater I think in the video, but it also has electrochroming.

[@hestheMaster]

You can see some curved wiring on the back of the original rearview mirror which indicates a heating element.

[@DonsJunkmail-vg1wt]

In another words...slow down on going to Harbour Freight

[@Carp4125]

"I didn't take the rivets from the other shop. They weren't mine". Being totally honest and ethical is a great personality trait, but kind of rare in this world.

[@js12278]

Reason to order OEM from the dealer using the VIN.

[@heckelphon]

The fuel cap has a retainer strap to prevents its loss when undone. You didn't reattach that to the filler door cover! I think there was a hole on the top right inside of the lid to take the strap end.

[@mymycojourney7924]

Looks to me like the strap is attached to the body to the right of the cap. I zoomed in and it looked like it was not hanging loose in there.

[@heckelphon]

@@mymycojourney7924 Thanks for spotting that. But at 0:40 it is rather clearly attached to the inside of the old door! Perhaps there's an alternative fixing spot which Ray was able to opt for? I would have imagined they wouldn't have made a separate fixing hole into the body skin to reduce the chances of water and whatever else getting through it, so they had originally designed the retaining strap as fastening to the lid.

[@azza-in_this_day_and_age]

no fuel cap lanyard thingy?! send this vehicle to the crusher immediately

[@6atlantis]

@@azza-in_this_day_and_age seems like a small thing but do you know how many times in the 80’s and prior people would forgot or loose their fuel caps at the pumps,

[@darrellwells9850]

Some do some dont

[@sabrekat7904]

This Toyota fuel filler door issue is common in UK. it's NOT a PROBLEM though and is easily prevenatable but just applying a few drops of oil to the hinge once every 12 months.The hinges break due to lack of lube . . . simple.

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

I'm sorry, this is America, and that is beyond our capabilities.

[@tastyautomotive5619]

This fuel door was a warranty extension for toyota, 10 years unlimited mileage. Could have been covered if they went to a dealer!

[@toyotabeast527]

Those fuel doors are covered under a warranty enhancement, unlimited mileage for 10 years.

[@ourv9603]

I have a sure fire method for getting a mechanism to cooperate. I stand before the machine & I shake the factory service manual at it menacingly. Works everytime. !

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

I'll add my two cents worth of knowledge here also. The rivet diameter is important to a degree. But what is more important is the actual rivet length, if you are trying to rivet together two sheets of thin metal such as a fuel door to a quarter panel the total thickness may only be .040 to .060" of an inch. If you try to use a rivet that has a body length of 1/2" it will never squeeze the metal together, it will be all flippy floppy and fall off. Rivets have a draw dimension ,it will say on the box .for example .020" to .060" . So use caution when you buy . Oh the thing you called a ( casing ) I think its actually called a mandrel.

[@SportFury1966]

Another reason I got OEM rivets when my Camry lid hinge broke off, just like this one did.

[@ninjamaster3453]

Since this is a known problems and covered under Toyota, they've been having them bolt the replacements on.

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

@@ninjamaster3453 Rivets are much easier and all you have to know is - ( What you're doing )

[@clintprice2123]

That’s why you must lube the fuel door hinges at least one a year and if in a road salt state more often.

[@jonathanmimnagh8956]

Or sometimes let some diesel splash when fuelling.

[@donwyoming1936]

When I replaced my truck's side view mirror, I discovered no aftermarket mirrors had all the factory options my original mirror did. OEM was my only direct replacement. So expensive too.

[@hurdurdur7rl696]

i would install the upper rivet first, this way the thing hangs from it and it doesn't want to dance away that much ... good job

[@ryans413]

I’d just build that door with bolts not rivets

[@forgetfulme1719]

where is wife unit extra hand?

[@battleangel5595]

Looks to be the "Polished Metal" paint Honda had around the time. My 2011 Honda Insight has the same color. My front bumper is a donor from another Insight, was a red color, had a run in with Bambi and a case of hemorrhoids. Snowy conditions, plow had been by hours ago, me being front wheel drive, the turd behind me with a behemoth of a truck with 4 wheel drive... Enter Bambi. Slammed on the brakes. I'll never forget that sound of Bambi slamming into the driver's side of my front end. Nor the driver behind me wondering WTF did I slam on my brakes. "WTF did you do that for?" "I just hit a deer." "GOOD FOR YOU!" Total damage was a new hood, left front quarter panel, left front headlight, left front fog light, front bumper, and bumper clips. And a pair of tighty whities.

[@bobberndt9744]

When my mirror broke I removed the glass, kept the 'original' bracket, and had a local glass shop fabricate the replacement. MUCH cheaper and worked 💯 %.

[@jimc2445]

I think that indicator you were referencing as a lane departure indicator is actually a blind spot monitor indicator light. Which the customer will definitely not want to go without according to my wife.

[@Bynming]

Your wife eh

[@MazichMusic]

Once you have a feature, you don't want to go without.

[@MikeL-FL]

I wouldn’t want to go without. We have it on one car and not the other and I hate driving without it. I’m actually considering an aftermarket kit.

[@WayneWerner]

Especially if you've been using it. I just use a blind spot mirror

[@fzrewagfzaerfer]

...or turn your head.

[@carolb9422]

From my perspective, steel parts should get steel rivets. Otherwise, there will be galvanic corrosion between the drilled-out body panel and the aluminum rivet. Keep up the entertaining and educational videos.

[@Google_Is_Evil]

Or plastic, like Volvo fender liners have.

[@rickramirez2220]

I don’t know if I’d consider that material steel lol🤔

[@mikebrookerd5833]

Original rivets were aluminum, so replacing them with aluminum rivets should be ok. Right?

[@ScottDLR]

@@mikebrookerd5833 It will be fine.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Gas door fixed mirror wrong parts everyday life as a mechanic wrong parts lol @Rainman Ray's Repairs

[@martinwilliams1784]

If you get behind panel I use a suitable sized washer if rivet to bind on

[@Papa_Kilo]

Good morning, today I also will be using my fingies and wrenches to fix my Triumph Tiger. Very tempted to burn it!

[@kenore4003]

Standard English car of the era. Drive it for one day then tear it down and do a complete overhaul of entire car. Lucas, Prince of Darkness.

[@volusia407]

I wish your shop was on the east Central Florida coast about now!!!!! Haven't seen my 2017 truck since January because of a fuel pump!! Since January,I was contacted by the police department and informed that my truck no longer has an exhaust system as it sits in the service yard. It has been an amazing adventure with no foreseeable ending since 4 months later, I've just been informed " maybe by the end of May or June". Unfortunately, at my age, doing thos stuff by myself is out of the question!

[@jimz68]

Do right by your customer and order the proper (OEM) mirror glass.

[@forgetfulme1719]

there goes the profit.

[@stevewhite3424]

That's I'm quite sure he is doing,. He'll leave that incorrect mirror in so the customer can drive the car while he gets the OEM glass. The removing replace time for the mirror is trivial when it comes to profit.

[@dback68]

This is the way! That whole aftermarket assembly just looked shoddy and who knows where else it will come up short.

[@dunebasher1971]

How do you know Ray didn't offer the customer that option and had the customer say that the aftermarket would be fine?

[@dback68]

@@dunebasher1971 You're probably right, but Ray will probably lose even more time taking the risk of another aftermarket option after this try was incorrect. Of course, I don't know what is all available through Ray's aftermarket channels, but going OEM will guarantee the correct fit AND function.

[@Rodogg7787]

That's exactly why I like older cars, cars from the early 2000's

[@handbananaistherapist642]

It is snowing here on the Indiana Michigan line. Goes well with my golfing sunburn!

[@kevincurry4735]

Good morning Ray. Let’s get to 500k and make Rays day yeah.

[@kevincurry4735]

This video was riveting. 😋

[@ron1584]

It's a Ebay thing you read the description of the item when you order it but when you receive it, it's different then described. At least I'm not the only one that it happens to. Or when you phone the parts store they say they have the part but when you get there they don't have it. Then they say o we must have just sold it. We have a few parts store like that, you end up avoiding those stores or have the part sent to another store and have them call you when it gets there. When it doesn't show up at the store, they usually order it for you from another distributor. When that happens a few times the parts store doesn't bother trying to transfer the part, they just order it from another supplier.

[@henryduke722]

You are going to redo that mirror I sure hope so I guess you're not going to do the mirror if that was my vehicle it would definitely be back in your shop so you can fix the mirror the right way have a good day Ray

[@robertbullcarmichael9856]

Those are awesome rivet guns there. Cant beat them for heavy duty jobs. Stay safe my friend.

[@Stan_in_Shelton_WA]

Like with house doors, secure the top hinge(top of door) first.

[@KamalaTheClown]

Good morning and happy Monday all!

[@purplecouple477]

The buttons to open the power sliding doors on the 3rd generation Toyota Sienna are located on the pillar between the front doors and the sliding doors.

[@iboswell]

Rivnuts or Nutserts (various names depending on market) might be a safer option for that filler flap

[@BIGSB5150]

Ray, i was watching some of your old videos an came across the locked up toyota with a living critters in it. Was wondering after you bought it what happen to it?

[@ledriver9637]

Finally, a camera on the head, finished the work with one hand 😋

[@halh865]

Ray's comment about the complexity of ordering (electronic) parts some of the head units for HVAC controls - some models may have separate options vented seats / heated seats as separate items and there could be multiple variations of head units that can have fewer or more buttons - I'm aware that Chrysler and VW / Audi / Porsche have these kind of variations frequently getting the VIN to obtain option / sales codes is the way to get the correct part when there are many variations possible on a given model / trim / year

[@roadiemort3589]

Pop rivet grip range is important (length) for a proper repair.

[@TimBojanowski-of7vw]

That’s called a Blind Spot indicator good sir!

[@cammo069]

Dude….air riveter! Best coin you’ll ever spend! I use one every day doing aluminium scaffold components 😁👍

[@vancity_5.0]

Just apply painters tape around the perimeter of the gas door. That way you don't have to worry about scratching the paint in that situation. 👌

[@agostinodibella9939]

Nice job Ray! You have a wide range of skills.

[@jrneff9773]

mcmaster carr for rivets bolts they sell snap on wrenches. if you order a wrench.

[@garynewell6947]

outstanding video as always Ray good day to you Ray but the most important thing is to have your self a great day

[@johnmorrow2988]

Its amazing how you can do things with one hand

[@williamwhitehead8362]

You need to install the gas cap hangerrope?

[@robm3063]

I have a 2007 new body style Silverado that has a driver mirror that is slowly starting to go. I have been looking for a replacement but they all have "different" things then mine. Got to love first model year cars and trucks.

[@cjboatright0369]

Ray has my favorite words on the thumbnail 👍

[@rickramirez2220]

You can also throw some masking tape on the paint to prevent scratching well riveting

[@josephpeluchette191]

Listening Ray while making breakfast have a great day everyone

[@forgetfulme1719]

true, he is not mumbling South Main.

[@josephpeluchette191]

@@forgetfulme1719 I speak WV hillbilly fluently I don't even notice lol

[@forgetfulme1719]

@@josephpeluchette191 true hillbilly uses Ray's old discarded truck mirror and no gas cap door needed.

[@KAS_Motorsports]

It’s a Monday. Lol. Got a nice gouge in my head this morning.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Good morning zeee brother

[@411NOW]

Thanks for another entertaining video Ray

[@forgetfulme1719]

Sienna owner refuses to leave in different color gas cap door and no more collision avoidance safety mirror. Ray has to buy OEMs to satisfy owner or buy this new van for family unit.

[@module79l28]

Yeah, the colour difference stands out like a sore thumb.

[@Gary7even]

"Modern car parts. Why? Why?" This is why, especially when it comes to Toyotas, you order OEM replacement parts. Remember the replacement oil pan on that VW you did that was a comeback because it was leaking and you wound up having to get an OEM oil pan?

[@forgetfulme1719]

see cars he worked on still on his lot, they are his now.

[@dback68]

Ding ding! The problem wasn't the part, it was the shoddy aftermarket that came up short today.

[@stevo4649]

thoroughly enjoyed this thankyou Ray a nice little mix,,have a good week,👌👍

[@AlanTech0]

Ray and Any other Sienna owners with this issue. This is a Toyota Customer Satisfaction Program. They will fix this fuel door, paint it, and new part and everything for free at dealer. I had this done at our local dealer when we found out from our parts guy. We had to push a little bit to convince them ours was on the program but most are just a vin search.

[@boblemon2103]

Lol on the mirror, to many options, did a fusion recently mirror was totally gone not just the glass, was it heated, did it have power adjust, a puddle light, turn signal, blind spot detection oh my went to dealer with vin and they told me what mirror was needed, then I bought cheap chineesium mirror from online vendor, all the parts you’ll ever need…. Customer didn’t even want it painted to match said they will live with the black plastic… the fact that it worked, priceless…

[@samishiikihaku]

You asked! lol Yes I can tell of the paint matching difference. In the light @17:16 you can see the new part had a more of "blue" tinge than the surrounding body paint. Though I suspect that might be because of the camera, since I can't see in person. lol Either way. nice job!

[@johndesaavedra1040]

After watching the entire video, I understand the cheap-o mirror was installed while the correct mirror is ordered. Having a functioning mirror is a safety issue and the original was not functioning. I have driven cars for 50 years without the blinky thing and I rarely use it now that I have it on one vehicle. My impression is that Ray will have a talk with the owner and recommend the correct replacement.

[@fluffyblue4006]

When riveting things that are affected by gravity and supposed to hang off other things, one should rivet the top rivet first, so gravity has less chance to mess with the whole process. When doing the bottom rivet first, gravity tends to pull the top rivet attachment point away from where it is supposed to go. When doing the top one first, gravity tends to push the bottom rivet attachment point towards where it is supposed to go.

[@Eh-925]

I bought a big rivet gun just like that one literally for a bmw window regulator to that shit had hella rivets

[@HETPEZB]

With this type of the mirror - replacement OEM glass only to keep all the features as the heating, auto dimming and lane change assist. Say “no” to the aftermarket :D

[@marymulrooney1334]

RAY It looked like the side door hit the gas tank fill door when it opened.

[@kingtut5923]

The bottle at the end is for used rivets

[@aaronturner1072]

Remember when replacing a side mirror glass was simply getting it from the parts store and snapping it in? Not sure where this mirror came from but seems like standard insurance grade replacement so the company probably only makes the most common variants (non heated and heated) then list it for all models of the van. So you never had a chance to get the right part. Flip side is that the OEM replacement glass probably cost more that a full replacement mirror or one from the boneyard. Double screw on it is that if you went the boneyard route to replace just the glass and toss the housing/motor, there would be a high probability that the glass would either not heat or autodim. So most likely the customer is going to end up ordering an OEM glass or full mirror and the price will be not cheap at all. Source: have a 2013 F150 that had its mirror replaced with a boneyard part. Original mirror had heat and autodim and was powerfolding, boneyard replacement was supposedly like for like but the heater did not work and autodim failed shortly after (turned mirror fully dark), then cracked when I tried to remove the glass to verify if heater wires were getting power. Ford OEM Replacement glass is currently about 380 so decided to go with a cheapo eBay aftermarket glass that only heats and has the powerfold symbol engraved on the mirror. 24 bucks but had to have 2 shipments because first arrived poorly packed and cracked. But finally have a non cracked and heating mirror. One day I will upgrade to tow mirrors like you did on the Silvery-rado and rid myself of Ford's OEM overpriced nonsense. Parting note -- check out a few 12th gen F150 driver side mirrors. You will notice a lot of them cracked and or discolored. The above is why. Patience and perseverance pays off in the end. Keep calm and poppening the hood on, Ray!

[@captainmanic1959]

I would never use an aluminum rivet for this job. I need to do inside Doo handles on my 2002 Taurus. I went to Ford to get the specific rivets to do this.

[@ronsloan7662]

Hey Ray, nice to have a reasonably simple job for a change. Unfortunately, the customer may want the proper glass for it. Cheers!

[@soggysadventures5234]

popin z cap ....blowing z mind!

[@proverman]

I’m up… I’m up!

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

Are you though

[@rogergraff5674]

Good video Ray, but I have been seeing that C3 for a while. When do we get to see that?

[@jrneff9773]

good job, did you see flat rate got the boot

[@CSmith-oz4wp]

Short and sweet for an early Monday morning video. Thanks for sharing. Almost 500K 🎉🔥☕️

[@tomcrotty1498]

Hi Ray, years ago I had to replace a window motor in a rear door Crown Victoria. 1/4” rivets I had to go to the ford dealer because no one had any. Times change. Most of all I bought a pneumatic rivet gun from Harbor Freight. Accommodates 1/4” and can do with one hand no sweat. Reasonable price for a once in a blue moon tool

[@phillipdewitt4454]

I have repaired and replaced gas door hinges switching over the painted sheet metal skin from old hinge. That one looked like it would have worked and avoid painting.

[@seamuslily]

What makes drilling out rivets easier is to use an awl and knock out the center pin

[@jimbellingham3572]

Put a backup washer on the outside 1st 2 spread the load.

[@MrCanadascott]

The only part of the mirror accessories that work ironically is the heater circuit in Florida. That's funny.

[@adamk9652]

Gotta love variations in car models. I found out the other day my 2015 Lexus Rx-350 has a headlight leveling system and the replacement assemblies I bought are not compatible 🤦🏻.

[@bobby9195]

Good morning Mr Ray hope y'all have a wonderful day 😁

[@micheals1992]

Your attention to detail is amazing. I recently got 2 new tyres fitted and they didn't take off the tyre stickers! They said they wouldn't come off and was stuck on when I asked so I pull around the corner out of view and peeled them off with ease (literally 1 full piece after being driven on for a minute or 2). I did overhear the guy complaining about how much he gets paid though and he said something like he only does as much as he gets paid. I guess that's the downside working for a franchise garage (kwikfit). It's a shame too because I always used to like the people in that particular garage, they don't seem to be enjoying their job anymore though.

[@DavidWeinberg-cm9xd]

1/4" rivets should be the right diameter?

[@dennislaur2515]

All body service parts are painted black as a primer and a anti corrosion. This is a service my work place offers to a number of auto makes. Fun fact about the paint. It's enamel base and actually a dark brown.

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

A lot of factory e coat isn't black. Grey brownish grey are common also. Vw, Benz, Toyota and Hyundai

[@jamesdk5417]

Hi, I was just wondering why you used the wrong side mirror? Was the correct one just unobtainable?

[@RainmanRaysRepairs]

I must have ordered it wrong I think

[@davidshull8929]

Uh...hello, white C3! Anything upcoming on that, or does it belong to next door?

[@roywhite7833]

Hopefully it won’t rain before you get the OEM mirror. Introducing moisture into the electrical connections will be bad.

[@rogerfleury3591]

UNKNOWN NUMBER! GOOD MORNING RAY AND THE WIFE UNIT! Roger in Pierre South Dakota

[@jamesgrabatin5520]

I thought Ray was going to have a mirror conniption fit!

[@BA-gn3qb]

I would've reinstalled the old mirror and ordered the correct replacement. Now they might not allow a return.

[@wallace3953]

Yo! Ray!! (I looked below, and got the idea from another poster....But, for sure, you can r/r and engine (motor) and tranny blindfolded....)....but, let's face it, all body work is the worst, because one scratch or gouge, and it is gonna become a disaster! now about that strap that secures the gas cap to the car.........omggg!!! Ray, time for you to take a week off....Bermuda??? Hawaii??? U r the best!!!!

[@SportFury1966]

Magnetic Gray Shame about the mirror. Fit seemed a little sloppy too - might be a bit blurry at highway speeds.

[@stanSnider]

Good morning Ray

[@scottbishop7899]

It's red so you know it's new 😆 🤣 😂 Could take a razor and trim it off? Out of you remit? lol bodywork is a whole separate trade though, there's a lot more to it than some folks think! It's a touch 'bluer' but might be the camera.

[@rickh455]

CJRB Crag is a good knife.

[@gainestruk1]

Popaning Z gastank 😲 I was so nervous while you drilled the rivets (yes I know it was above)😎

[@davealexander1201]

That door repair would be perfect for rivet nuts, that way you use machine screws.

[@tinoyb9294]

Why not go to a you pull it yard for this stuff?

[@eddie5484]

This happened on my old corsa. I just superglue'd the thing. Next to zero effort.