Periodic roadworthiness test (EU test) on 2013 Tesla Model S P85 (MF)

[@georgepelton5645]

Great to see Nassir and Millennium Falcon again. I find it very interesting to see how inspections are done in Norway, the equipment Nassir uses, and to see how MF is holding up after so many years and kilometers. Nassir is great to listen to, I always learn something from him.

[@AaronD12a]

In Texas (USA), an inspection on EVs consists of checking for burned out lights. That's it. No brake tests, no headlight test, etc. Gas cars go through a OBDII test and a in-parking-lot test drive. We have terrible cars on the road. I think it's the same way in Florida (USA): I drove my aunt's car and noticed the steering wasn't right. Checked the power steering fluid and it was completely dry. The car was 10 years old. No one checked the power steering fluid. Probably not brake fluid. Maybe not even the oil.

[@b4804514]

I think in Norway you could freeze to death if your car broke down close to nothing. Not so much in Florida

[@Magnitio1]

No, you get eaten by ‘gators.

[@hartfischer5509]

All the episodes with Nazir and Millenium Falcon turn out to be some of the most interesting :) Nazir fan club :)

[@Devou1s]

Same procedure in Denmark with cars: 1. Full inspection at registration/import, 2. After 4 years inspection, 3. Every 2nd year inspection.* *When the cars reach 35 years of age: you can register it as vintage and inspection will be every 8th years, but limited driving possibilities.

[@jor_R]

Nassir! Count me in as a future customer when all the warranties of the 3 cars my family owns runs out, all ev's ofcourse (Classic ioniq, TM3LR & Mitsubishi I-miev) because of Uncle Bjørn's extensive reviews 👍😀. Teslabjørn has done so much for the EV community. Long live the EV king TB 👑

[@snuups]

My Model S is from 12/13. I really liked that you bought your old car back and keep it. It makes the content very interesting. With that kind of contend we know what we have to expect when our cars get older. I plan to keep my Model S as long as possible. I pay even for expensive repairs because it's still cheaper that buying a new car from time to time. And keeping a car very long is sustainable.

[@TheGokki]

You reckon it'll take 25 years for the battery to reach 50% capacity? Or longer?

[@0-Will-0]

What sort of expensive repairs have you had?

[@Sahkoautoseparempiauto]

Really usefull stuff! I can use these to combat the "yes! but BEV's are trash after xx kilometers!" arguments.

[@rwindypops8569]

Hi Bjorn, in the UK we call it an MOT as a brand new car has to have it after 3 years, and every year after that. Commercial vehicle's have to have it every year! It's compulsory.

[@m1geo]

Any you can openly check the history of any car from the licence plate. 🙂

[@koomaj]

These are the best. Glad to see Nassir and Millennium Falcon back.

[@kylereese4822]

Same thing as in the UK here it`s called an MOT it`s every 12 months applies to cars 3 years old and over...

[@SimonEllwood]

Yup, body is "DVLA", brake Check machine is "Rolling Road", fault advice is an "Advisory".

[@PaoloSulprizio]

In Italy 🇮🇹 same as France, the first the 4th year, then every 2 years. It's called "revisione" and costs 79€ everywhere. It checks emissions, brakes, lights, airbags, big anomalies, broken windows/windshield... Everything could be dangerous. And they check also if odometer has been lowered. The interesting part is that the results, with odometer readings too, are public, useful for buying used vehicles.

[@idrisddraig2]

France is CT and costs €100, but otherwise much the same as Italy

[@Dudulelr]

@@idrisddraig2 Nope it's 80€ in France

[@PaoloSulprizio]

@@idrisddraig2 I was referring to how often we have to do when said that is the same as France

[@rejotalin]

@@PaoloSulprizio Same in Spain. Mine just turned 4, 45 Eur.

[@idrisddraig2]

@@Dudulelr 100€ in Passy and Sallanches, €110 in Chamonix. €87 in Bonnville, but thats 45 min drive away. Outside the Haute Savoie I would expect it to be cheaper

[@alexluthi89]

Had my 2014 model S in for inspection at the same place, the day before. Would love to switch check list with you, Björn 😱😱😱 But really happy with the service from Omar! 👍

[@vlad2838]

Shee-it, in most of the States, virtually anything is deemed road worthy…

[@slavko321]

Thats why "just rolled in" videos are mostly from the us:)

[@kodez79]

This rigidity make me feel a lot safer on the road. I have kids in the back and enjoy the relative safety this gives

[@robsengahay5614]

In Australia we only have a roadworthy when we want to sell the car and then it is mandatory. So you see quite a lot of seriously unroadworthy cars out there.

[@erikpierik9806]

Same thing in The Netherlands exists. Here it is called the APK (Algemeen Periodieke Keuring) / (This translates to General Periodic Check)

[@bephremb]

Great video. Very helpful to understand safety issues. Many thnx

[@MichaelDoran23]

Called the NCT in Ireland (National Car Test). First test is 4 years from new. Then every 2 years after that. Once a car is 10 years old its then every year. Its 55 euro for the test and 28 euro for a re-test if you failed. These tests obviously are hated by a lot of people lol and are seen as the government trying to take more money from us, but you can see the safety and logic behind it. Great video Bjorn, nice to see it from other countries too.

[@Buju7777]

Cool here in Austria we have the same thing and it's called "Die §57a-Begutachtung" 😅. But since the official name is so long and cumbersome we simply always call it "Pickerl". Literal translation means a "sticker". Because after successful check, the technician will then put this official sticker on the windscreen. So the police can see it from outside if the car is still roadworthiness or not. And there the checks are 3 years, then 2 years and then every year afterwards (3-2-1).

[@mamu679]

Was kostet das bei euch? In Deutschland kostet der Tüv mit der Abgasuntersuchung circa 120 €

[@Buju7777]

@@mamu679 normally it costs 74 EUR. But only 43,80 EUR with ÖAMTC membership.

[@bazoo513]

Here in Croatia we have to do that once the car is two years old, and then every year. That is the prerequisite for registration renewal. But only exhaust, lights, brakes and suspension are checked - this Norwegian test is much more thorough.

[@renatonovak9688]

That's not really correct. They check the suspension, they check the underbody for rust and issues, they check the chassis, windschield (even the wipers and sprayer), all lights, tires, brakes, exhaust, brake fluid quality, emissions etc. Even if you have rust on the outside of the car you might fail the test as it may be dangerous to pedestrians if they hurt themselves on your car.

[@bazoo513]

@@renatonovak9688 Perhaps they *should* check all that, and if they see your chassis is a pile of rust held by paint they will fail you, but my wipers, for example, have never been checked.

[@renatonovak9688]

@@bazoo513 this is the first thing they do, wipers and horn test. No idea where you are and who tests your car, but they always did it on mine. I also failed once because my brake fluid wasn't good enough - next time I came prepared - i just added a bit of fresh fluid into the reservoir 5 min before the test

[@SuperMixedd]

same in France but after 5 years for a new car and then every 2 years.... Doing this every year seems like a chore to be honest :0

[@bazoo513]

@@renatonovak9688 Zagreb, "Euro Daus" in Folnegovićeva. I live practically next door and they are not crowded, so I always do my tests there, for the last, umm, 40 or so years? They _might_ have been a bit more thorough before, but now it is emissions, brakes, lights, suspension and steering.

[@stefback166]

In France 🇫🇷 , we call that « Contrôle Technique » to be done after 4 years when it’s a new car and then every 2 years.

[@gregbailey45]

Similar in Australia, first check after 4 years from new, then annually after that.

[@thomtheunissen5827]

very intresting stuff to see them do this, happy all cars get checked like this safety nr 1 peaple!

[@FSXgta]

trust me it's annoying, especially if you have to scrap your old car because of it

[@thomtheunissen5827]

@@FSXgta i dont think its that hard to properly mantain a car i have done it for years now, these are only safety test not even anything to do with the engine their the basic stuff

[@FSXgta]

@@thomtheunissen5827 my 1992 subaru frame had rusted close to the suspension mount point. Could weld it but don't know if it would pass still. The car was bought for around 1000 usd used, so not really worth trying

[@Crychavoc]

These car inspection videos are awesome!

[@allan8490]

Just had a Annual inspection (Warrant) in New Zealand today ,very similar with the odd exception $70 NZD

[@65PCH]

And every six months for older vehicles (pre 2000).

[@upiferico]

In Spain we have the same process, it's called ITV

[@theproffessional9]

Not bad, the headlights are only slightly misaligned, rear door handle isn't working and the horn is a bit wonky. Very easy stuff to fix.

[@b4804514]

Those darn door handles that don't present

[@colla555]

In Germany it's the Hauptuntersuchung or HU by the TÜV

[@rockiesbouldering]

Well - in many countries people purchase the rejected vehicles and have them shipped in containers. In places like the Bahamas - they literally drive these things to total failure- renting them out to tourists along the way. The only positive is that nobody drives 160kph. Having your wheels fall off at 50kph can’t be fun though.

[@luisag763]

As always nice to see Nassir ;)

[@davidbryant2872]

This was very eye-opening! It is amazing that EU requires such a detailed inspection. In the US, in my state (Massachusetts), we have required annual inspections but they are quite cursory. The most surprising thing for me was the brake testing. I have never heard of such a dynamic brake test device in the US, let alone seen one in use. It looks as if it is done on a dynamometer or similar device. I have to say that Millennium Falcon seems to have held up fairly well despite its high mileage, but of course i realize that you spent a lot of effort (and money) to repair it when you bought it back.

[@ObserverDingue]

America does have brake tests for cars, you call them "highway wrecks" (which is a fail) 🤣 (Only joking!) Tests like the one here are in all Europen countries. My (automatic shift) van failed last year in the UK because the handbrake wasn't strong enough... really annoying. But you get it re-tested after fixing it and then pay only one fee, about £55. All our roads, and most police cars, now have automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras and when the camera sees your plate the cops are alerted straight away if you have no road tax or vehicle test or insurance. Then you get pulled over or the police come looking for you. As more and more people are short of money to keep up with all of that the fines are a massive revenue for the government. If you have no insurance and you're stopped they tow your car on the spot and you have to make your own way home. Brutal but for the common good.

[@thomasairbuspilot]

We definitely don’t have this in the US! We can drive our cars pretty much no matter what! Smog test is the only barrier, but they doesn’t apply to EVs.

[@ricktrenkler3254]

Years ago we used to have this in the US. They replaced it with the emission test. Now you can drive a taped together car.

[@Markle2k]

There are states with periodic safety inspections in the US. Texas and Missouri for sure. I think it is also in a bunch of northeastern states.

[@christopherpedersen1820]

It's state by state. Florida you never have to have your vehicle inspected no matter what. Plenty of people with trucks set up to roll coal despite it being federally illegal because we never test for it.

[@esaedvik]

Driving licenses from cereal boxes at 16 years of age and cars in horrific, unchecked conditions...compare the death rate on the roads. The US is #6 in deaths per 1B vehicle kilometers at 7.3 deaths and Norway at less than half that, 3 deaths. Even per 100k motor vehicles, US is at 14.2, Norway at 3. Norway has almost the safest roads in the world. But that said, it would pretty much bankrupt some Americans if they had this system in place atm. No car, no commuting to work.

[@davidbryant2872]

@@esaedvik But insurance rates would also drop if there were fewer accidents, fewer injuries and deaths, and fewer claims.

[@PtrkHrnk]

In my country it's called STK. The control station must be under constant video surveillance and every step of the control must be logged in to a computer, because corruption was apparently a big problem.

[@jirizyka]

yes it is under camera control, but when I was with the tesla at the inspection, they asked me what they should check on it? They only checked the covers underneath and that's all they had the courage to do

[@Foersom_]

Which country?

[@PtrkHrnk]

@@Foersom_ Slovakia

[@trevorgale1176]

Steppenwolf ! Great taste in music.

[@Danne89]

It baffles me that most countries DON'T have this. So used to all these car inspections here in Sweden.

[@officer_baitlyn]

yeah, Sweden, UK, France, Norway, Germany many European Countries have checks like these its just weird to me that "developed countries" like the US dont have similar checks in place even Turkey had TÜV turk at some point

[@idrisddraig2]

Japan is every 2 years after 5 years old, and expensive

[@Maarten_vd]

Same in the Netherlands, so new cars should be checked after 5 years, and after that every year.

[@allan500m]

In Denmark it's also every second year after the first 4 years. But the cost is typically 350 to 400 DKK, so I think 1200 NOK is VERY expensive. Also they don't check door handles in Denmark. After all, if the car is only used by the driver it's only necessary to have a working door in the drivers side.

[@bjornnyland]

Everything is expensive in Norway.

[@AttilaBabo]

In case of an accident door handles could be critical, inspecting them makes a lot of sense.

[@Gazer75]

@1:10 Statens vegvesen is a mouthful in English. It is "Norwegian Public Roads Administration".

[@glenf4115]

Nassir the car guru saves the day.

[@richardgoldsmith7278]

He does look like a star, you’re right.

[@w0ttheh3ll]

Europeans in the comments be like: In my country it's called XYZ and has to be done every such and such years. Americans in the comments be like: Mandatory safety inspections don't exist in my state.

[@iowa_don]

4:16 - Steppenwolf, Born To Be Wild. 👍👍 Or is it Bjorn To Be Wild??

[@timothyheilman1185]

Love the Zax wheels! Wish I could get them here in the states for my model 3

[@hg60justice]

here, you'd put it in the shop and go through everything first, then drive it. you don't know if it's roadworthy to drive first. i've come across tie rods and ball joints about to fail in inspections. test driving first is looking for an accident.

[@revoluciondigital00]

Minute 26:53 you can see how the nut have damaged something. The aluminium have marks make by the nut. Is this normal? I saw that on others Model S too.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Wow, you have it easy! In the UK it’s 3 years from new and yearly after that.

[@TheSweMusicMan]

First one in Sweden is also after 3 years. Second one after another 2 years. And after that, every 14 month.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@TheSweMusicMan 14 months seems an odd decision. Yearly is much easier to plan. :)

[@TheSweMusicMan]

@@SirHackaL0t. 14 months max, so you can do it yearly if you want. It was every 12 month earlier, but they changed it 5 years ago. Every two years was on proposal, but was considered too long, so we ended up with 14 months.

[@esaedvik]

Average age of cars is so high in most countries that it's mostly yearly for people (or not at all since it's pretty rare to get caught driving an unchecked car, until speed cameras will just check all cars for any reason). I think the average in Finland is almost 13 years. I doubt I'll ever own a new car in my life. Not only because it's a poor investment though.

[@GabrieleBonetti]

we call it revisione in italy and is a joke compared to this. if it moves and it stops is fit for purpose

[@PaoloSulprizio]

That's not true. There were differences between carshops in the past but now they have to send data and photos to the Motorizzazione and they risk more. And I think it will be more and more difficult to make a not well maintened vehicle pass the test

[@nocomment8273]

I Germany it's called TÜV inspection and the results for Tesla s that were published by TÜV were awful.

[@Jjengering]

We call it an MOT in the UK, which stands for ministry of transport. :)

[@jasonfournier]

In the US in my state, no inspection ever on EVs.

[@minghiy]

In PA, USA most auto repair shops can do safety and emissions inspections (we need an annual inspection even on a brand new car ABSURD). About 50% of them are fraudulent, will give a long list of things wrong hoping you would pick atleast some of them. I do my own car maintenance so I know what needs attention and whether it's a safety hazard. It's a real shame how they try and rob innocent people here. Atleast we can drive over to the next shop and hope they correctly diagnose those critical items that deem the cars unsafe for public roads.

[@hartfischer5509]

Here in Nevada we call it : going to the local mechanic to check out the car, no need for government :)

[@esaedvik]

@@Mosern1977 Yeah, not the same thing at all. People with no money aren't going to the mechanic once a year, but drive till the tires fall off.

[@No1cemeister]

Exactly same rules in Denmark

[@travelingteslastyle765]

Excellent video 👍👍✌️

[@jenslarsson6134]

Do you have a summery somewhere with all the repair costs? Would be nice to see, have a P85D 2015 myself.

[@michaelheinrich44]

in Germany we call it 'TÜV'

[@boban250]

If you can't remember the rule of First after 4 years and every two after that, think of it as every two years, but you can skip the first one

[@Nicholas-f5]

Fascinating, inspections are illegal in Texas, so many dangerous vehicles on the roads, from Mexico too.

[@rpmimm755]

In Ontario Canada …..1 safety for the MTO and never again ….unless you sell car and new owner does it

[@adas1988]

Wtf, half the cars and semi truck on the road would fail this in the USA. A lot of crap mobiles on the roads 🎉

[@unclezeppy]

I've got that kind of inspection done to my car every 2000km (once a year) and a couple of times 70km apart because the car was driven only when I was on vacation in Finland and I skipped a year. It's good though, the car (Peugeot 605, 1991 with 370000km) can also have problems after it spends 11 months in storage and experience -30C temps. This is what will probably exclude EVs from my shopping list even I was thinking about the Model S.

[@marcinzaremba1811]

Part 2 anytime soon?😉

[@vaalermeds]

You are not supposed to boil the fluid in the container, it ruins the rest of the fluid.

[@dorsetengineering]

3yrs, then yearly here in the UK... Much more regular if it is a taxi.

[@BD002010]

These guys test it like they are buying it. You should check all fluids and all nuts, especially the one behind the wheel while you're at it.

[@SULFURIOUS]

Bananas for the Bananabox God! Boxes for the Banana Throne!

[@flemlion13]

When they checked my electric parking brake, the car jumped. If they did that in that place, it might have bumped that car in front of it.

[@curiou25s]

1200kr, that's a rip off. Same thing cost 1/3 in Finland.

[@HermanTheHacker]

Norway have about 30% higher average salry than Finland (after taxes) so I would imagine that the cost of living is higher here? Also, not sure if the test in Finland is 100% the same?

[@esaedvik]

@@HermanTheHacker It's very similar. About 50-ish parts in the checklist.

[@terosaarela4555]

One thing worth noting is that in Finland, the Katsastus/Besiktning/Inspection is always done by a dedicated entity that does not offer repair services.. I know that some shops offer to take the car to the inspection after check-up and possible repairs as a service, but repair shops aren’t allowed to do the official inspection.

[@sveip]

Wow, that caliper paint job is wack, they even didn't bother to paint the inside!

[@ikocheratcr]

Where I live it costs ~$50, but sadly it is a monopoly and many times they do as they please to fail the cars.

[@DaRockCRX]

In Austria this car would have failed for everything that was wrong in the suspension. leaky shock -> failed, play in tie rod end -> failed, sway bar link play --> failed ...

[@Addeeeerrrrrr]

Why do u have EU when u not in the EU 😁 ? Anyway, a common problem is that the fog lights is to high. But u don't need fog light and on the M3 u can't use the rear. U need to enable front but that's illegal. Didn't get the first part. Was the first inspection 2y or 4y? Here in Sweden it's 3y and 5y then every year. Is the price for inspection for an EV and IVE the same? Here it the same cost around 50€ but no exhaust measure and not checking engine bay. So werird that's is the same.

[@bjornnyland]

Norway is part of EEA and we follow many of the EU regulations.

[@manowaari]

Brake discs are in kind of "poor" condition (still ok tough). Can see that EV regenerating braking is mostly used. Rear brakes are better meaby because traction control has been using those to limit slip. My fossil car has all disks shiny and no any pitting.

[@alarjak]

Still after 250,000 miles?

[@tzarcoal1018]

VW was right when they installed drumbrakes in the rear on the ID cars.

[@davidbryant2872]

@@tzarcoal1018 Why? Just to save money because they are needed less?

[@tzarcoal1018]

@@davidbryant2872 yes?.... is saving money a bad thing? The lower component cost is not really the point, the fact that you never have to do anything with your brakes is why drum brakes on an EV are the right choice.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

I run from new a 2014 Model S P85 with now 150,000km in UK and I dont mind doing my own work on the car if it needs it. Thanks Nassir I learn some check points, I checked the rear door handles both mine dont work! No problem Rich Rebuilds does a good U tube videos on how its done kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4G4YX6YpJqHpdU , think ill do both.

[@TommiHimberg]

Nice move trying to flatter the inspector by calling him a rock star. Too bad it didn't work and he flunked the car anyway. :P jk

[@binauralauto3621]

I was right 🔅 was too low.

[@AlexanderNassian]

I don‘t think one is legally required to bring or even own a charging cable… money making „checks“.

[@bjornnyland]

Think again... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKmbkmapoM1rabc

[@hartfischer5509]

Wait, because of a slight headlight misalignment, and a bad rear door handle, they almost had to seize the car immediately and take it off the road? My mechanic would charge me $50 to test, and no matter what, I decide when and how to fix it. I would just do it myself at home. I think I like the rules here in Nevada better:)

[@weebl15]

Nobody said seizing lol. It would just not be legal to drive it on the road. And small stuff like this will just get fixed. It is nice being able to open a door in case of emergency. And not blinding oncoming traffic.

[@matejlieskovsky9625]

They literally have it written on the report that they must fix those two problems within two months. Seizing a car only happens with code 3 problems, which are a lot more serious.

[@esaedvik]

You also have the choice of driving a potentially unsafe car on the road forever. So there's that. That's also part of the reason why the death rate on US roads is like 2x compared to Norway. The other being lack of proper driver's ed. You can also take the car to a mechanic before this test and fix all the issues beforehand and not fail the test. Even have them take the car to the test as a part of the service.

[@richieduck67]

Wassup

[@fab1978i]

These inspections are such a waste of time and money. Very very few accidents happen due to technical failures that get sorted out by those inspections. Almost all accidents happen due to the driver not paying attention (phone etc), being drunk or tired, speed too high etc. There could be more effective measures to prevent accidents.

[@Luis-xr9ye]

First 💪🏼