PHIL COLLINS RAW & VULNERABLE " Why Do People Still Hate Me?" " I'm more than just soppy ballads"

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In this 2014 interview, Phil Collins is at his most vilnerable and personal.
His popularity has made him a target for derision but he's not taking it any more !
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[@russellthechemist8291]

Phil Collins is simply one of the greatest rock musicians and songwriters of all time. An absolute legend.

[@tonyjedioftheforest1364]

I am a fan of his work and Genesis but sorry I don’t agree with any of your 3 statements. I would reserve those labels to the likes of Jimmy Page and Paul McCartney and using them for Phil is simply devaluing them.

[@davidryan7386]

phil is SO beloved amongst musicans. but haters do hate loudly. NYC has a phil collins day. relax phil. you did it as drummer AND epic front man. you taught me how to sing with true felling. much thanks and love always.

[@davidryan7386]

but the last era of genesis is not a gold star lol. we DID get oversaturated for a decade if you hear too much radio from that era. the pop side esp. I didn't.

[@rhythmfield]

@@davidryan7386 oversaturated? Who forced you to listen to it?

[@ronzombie6541]

Phil's music continues to age like fine wine and resonates true!

[@glenmorse9533]

I love your music, the world has gone mad!

[@abundantYOUniverse]

Phil wrote and performed the sound track to my life. I owe him everything.

[@Earlofmar1]

I grew up during the time when Phil Collins was only known as the drummer and backing vocalist in my favourite band. When Peter Gabriel left Genesis, and Phil stepped up as lead singer my friends and I were all rooting for him, (and the band), to continue with what I still think of as ground-breaking work. How anyone could take offence at one of the best drummers, singers, brilliant arranger/contributor, talented song writer and all-round good guy, is beyond me.

[@clubderunzensiertendichter]

Thank you for providing this interview... Phil has broght up so much good music for decades ! In solidarity with the fighters for peace, love, freedom, justice and truth, we express our feelings with music on our channel. Greetings from Germany, CLUB OF THE UNCENSORED POETS

[@erikmaronde2244]

Don't worry, Phil! What some people say about you shouldn't Matter to you., because you are still one of the best drummers, Composers and singers of the Last 50 years.🎶👍🎉🖖

[@atanaslillestemintchev]

How can anyone hate or even dislike this man? He was the co-writer of ”Supper’s ready”, played drums like nobody else, was the singer of Genesis from 1975 etc etc….For God’s sake!😂🩷

[@GustavoJacob]

Might be that for a while he was absolutely everywhere and therefore became an easy target. I can see that opinions about him and his music are much more positive now than in 1992. He was always a great singer and a great drummer. During a few years (76-84 I would say his peak) he was truly awesome, one of a kind. I hope he comes here once in a while and read how much people love him.

[@jimhardiman3836]

Which is essentially what he said. Too many soppy ballads released as singles dominating the airways.

[@396Cap]

Millions of fans love you Phil. Yes. Be proud of everything you've done. You are a true artist and a beautiful man. You have nothing to apologize for. Thanks John.

[@Fiachraraven]

Stray strong Phil. You created so much, and are such a nice guy.

[@martinlawrence8427]

For me Phil's music is the soundtrack of my life, love it, love him, especially his incredible singing and drumming with Genesis!

[@jornfox3545]

why would anyone hate someone that's brought so much joy to the people of this world. insanity.

[@toddblanks]

Phil, ozzy osbourne just called to say he loves you! I can't thank you enough for your incredible positivity injection into the world of music. I loved it when you worked with john martyn and so many of my other heros. The body of work you've achived through the years is absolutely incredible! Thank you for the fantastic vocal range you brought us after the departure of peter!

[@UdiKoomran]

Incredible drummer

[@De132an]

“Take me Home”, one of the coolest video things you ever wrote! 🎉

[@user-bq9oz4mm5v]

Great drummer great singer/songwriter I love his music with genesis and as a solo artist

[@diiey4903]

No Om Phil you are cool ,people who hate you only don't know how excellent you are as a musician and a person ❤

[@murkrow2316]

Legendary in my opinion

[@anthonymarocco955]

Phil Is Fantastic! What About Turn It On? He Is A Great Artist

[@chennellproductions6538]

Phil was everywhere for at least 2 decades. The media knocked him down. Phil was ALWAYS loved by the public, the media should apologize but we know that won’t happen. BIG LOVE to Phil who had more talent in his little finger than most of us x

[@brian32151867]

Phil has been a musical hero of mine for most of my life. The scope of his work and talent is astonishing, balanced by his sincerity and genuine joy in performing and collaborating with others. I always appreciated how he often identifies himself as a drummer first (even in this clip here). I was blown away by the power of his drumming with Brand X; projects like that and his big band work were fascinating - he accomplished so much more as a creative force than the box he was placed in by the success of his mainstream work. John - as always, these clips are enjoyable and informative. Thank you for sharing them!

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts and appreciation

[@FrankTobin-no4io]

​@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIESPhillip Collins equals Genesis equals Brand.X equals perfectionism . ENOUGH SAID!❤

[@asciishallreceive3871]

Which " big band work?" I'd love to hear that, sounds fun!

[@brian32151867]

@@asciishallreceive3871 It's great! In the late 90s, Phil played big band arrangements of solo and Genesis songs. He doesn't read music and had to memorize the complex parts! Check out Phil's fiery drumming on this version of Los Endos (with Latin breakdown!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIWYhqaipcyDi6M There's also a live album ("A Hot Night In Paris") and a documentary about the project on KZbin.

[@brian32151867]

@@asciishallreceive3871 Look up Phil Collins Big Band, it was an amazing labor of love instrumental project he did in the late 90s, rearranging his songs and some Genesis classics. It was inspiring to see him take on a musical challenge - he doesn't read music and had to memorize the drum parts to lead the band!

[@stevenrufini3515]

Always liked phil brilliant drummer, some stand out albums and a good down to earth bloke!

[@rodmitchell831]

Love yourself Phil...You are awesome......

[@paulchoccyt1303]

Thanks John

[@remymusique]

Drummer with so many people, Brand X, Genesis, Clapton, Quincy, the Who, Led Zep... Producer of so many people, Johnny Martin, Frida, Clapton, Crosby... Hit songwriter too Got a real and deep sympathy for this guy

[@MicheleJane]

Phil Collins has always been an amazing incredible talent. I still love to hear anything he does.

[@rhythmfield]

John: does Phil read these comments? If he doesn’t, he ought to! Thanks for your great videos! -Greg Burrows / jazz drummer

[@streetaware]

Phil don't listen to these people. You are and always will be one of the great musicians of our time.

[@redpebbles]

Phil Collins has been in my life since I was a ten or so, he inspired me to play the drums (my dad recorded a live show of Clapton and him on drums from tv, and I just wore that tape out). Then when I did my first live shows with a blues band at 16, the guitar player played me Moroccan Roll from Brand X and that was all she wrote... I wish someone could tell Phil that there are probably countless guys and gals like me out there, for whom Phil will always rank among the greats.

[@norwegianblue2764]

Good stuff, John. Phil is one of the all-time greats.

[@growlerthe2nd712]

My opinion is that his finest hour was A Trick of the Tail, a great album 👍

[@darksarcasm4835]

I have never heard anyone say that they hate Phil Collins. He is of my generation, and everyone enjoys his music, as well as when he showed up for an acting gig. My friends and I enjoy Phil Collins-we remember when he flew across the ocean to appear on both of the Live Aid concerts.

[@alkebulansan]

I love this dude and have done for many years. Genesis saved me from a shitty teenage time and through Phil's drumming I was introduced to jazz with his ferociously funky drumming in Brand X. I saw Genesis many times back in the day and Phil solo on his very first solo tour at what was then the Hammersmith Odeon - in the nosebleed seats! Another concert he pushed security guards out the way outside the Royal Albert Hall to walk to me and my then girlfriend to say hello and sign my tour jacket! I was speechless, gob smacked. Lovely fella, truly. I was smitten! So this you may feel this is all leading to something? It is. As an audience loving gent and a consummate pro I didn't understand why he made what seemed little or no effort to get his voice back to something like it used to be in the early days, on Genesis' final tour. I understand why he couldn't drum so have no questions there, but surely efforts could have been made to better the voice through voice work and training. It just seemed like he didn't care which made me rather sad and confused.

[@milfordcivic6755]

I've always liked Phil Collins and Genesis. No Jacket Required is my favorite album.

[@kennethnorman8079]

Phil Collins’ favorite band growing up was a mod band called The Action. About 30 years ago Phil helped finance a reunion that enabled a fine British band to go out with the dignity they deserved. Phil will always have my thanks for that.

[@F.O.H.]

Phil Collins is so good even his shitty songs are incredible.

[@matthammond1737]

Seems like a nice guy to me and Against All Odds is a great pop song. Wish I could write something that good.

[@mightymikerocks]

Amazing 🎉

[@raptor182cmn]

It hurts me to hear him say this. In my household Phil Collins is beloved and he always will be.

[@stefanlivesey8068]

It's astonishing that he should have to apologise for his success. Once again, John, you've got the very best out of him in this interview. Thanks so much for these videos. Top man.

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Thank you Stefan !

[@user-xf2dn2oi2d]

I have 100% respect for Phil Collins A neighbour was in financial trouble Knocked Phil's door, he lent them the money Some time later the neighbour paid him back They had never spoken before And it was 1000s of pounds So respect for Phil

[@andybetts6584]

None of his detractors within the music business have a shred of his talent Gallagher prime amongst them! Great drummer/vocalist who can do blue eyed soul, pop, rock, jazz and anything else.....great man

[@robj8201]

The future often appreciates talent long after they were chart toppers…the BGees springs to mind.

[@engste678]

He's undoubtedly a top musician. I remember getting fed up of hearing about his divorce on the radio ! Genesis were groundbreaking at the time.

[@TheNinjaPicker]

Very interesting to hear what Phil said about people hating him. Im 59 years old and I have never heard anyone in person or online talk about hating him. I would have loved to hear him have another hit.

[@brianf3207]

Why would anyone hate Phil Collins, music is subjective - I like some of his stuff, dislike some of it. Humanity can be so disappointing.

[@KETEBOWERS]

I don’t hate you Phil ! I think you’re great ! 😎🎶

[@fidgetspinner343]

I really don't think there is a better live album out there than "But Seriously Live". It is outstanding.

[@peterhammer4644]

Seconds out 😄

[@jerahmaya77]

Back then, we only had so many things to complain about! No one I knew ever "hated" Phil. Music changed and it became a bit tame as music took on a harder edge. Luckily the internet gives us the opportunity now, to learn about what was really happening in the studio in those crossover years after the original Genesis faded out. As it turns out, Phil (and Peter Gabriel "don't play the cymbals") had a pretty major impact on the pop music that was being made in the 80's. Much respect.

[@acimbobby]

Phil is a true talent has proved it many times. He is one of the best drummers I have heard, and he put together an amazing band. I don't know when this interview was recorded, and we should see his musical history as it is, not just judge him on any other grounds.

[@Pulsonar]

I’m shocked how old and ministerial Phil looks at just 63 yrs old here. He did a concert a couple of years ago sitting down and he looked every inch a frail Dickensian geriatric character at only 70 yrs old. Despite his brilliant iconic songs and career success I can’t help but feel his image lets him down at times. A far cry from the star who in the mid/late 80s occasionally lit up episodes of Miami Vice with his cocky flamboyant characters (once a successful child actor)

[@neaituppi7306]

I don't think most people even remember that perspective in the late eighties, early nineties, when it seemed Phil Collins was everywhere. I remember that, and it seemed that no matter what he did, it became a number one hit. As well as he was doing so many other musical activities. There apparently is some people that have carried that disdain they developed then, over the decades. And now they are just dealing with that, but it doesn't really matter in the wider context, because most people now only remember what they like about Phil and whatever musical things he did. I like him the most as a drummer. I started with the live abacab album, but since got more into earlier genesis and brand X. Although at the time I did like some of the pop songs he and genesis would do by the middle to late eighties, I generally just checked out on it, though I didn't have any hate. I loved the movies he was in, and kind of wish he did more.

[@truthisinfinite]

Once you've lived through the eighties you stay there forever. Thank you Phil Collins for being the soundtrack of our lives. ❤🙏❤

[@scarcam]

Phil was massive in the 80's, when the 90's kicked in, things changed, people were looking for something new, but Phil was still churning out the massive tunes, they just didn't sit well with the likes of The Happy Mondays and The Stone Roses. People in the UK like to move on to the next thing, other countries for some reason seem to be more forgiving. There weren't many acts from the 80's that managed to cling on to popularity into the 90's. It's a funny old thing, music is like fashion

[@DonHalli]

Always liked Phil Collins. Monster talent and a guy that never took himself too seriously, but took his music seriously. Nice to hear him open up where many others in his industry hide! His sensitivity is admirable!

[@byrnez2755]

I think Phil Collins has been reading too much trash on the internet. That's a common problem for people of his vintage, especially artists in the twilight of their careers. Recommendation: Don't go down that rabbit-hole, Phil. It's an uneducated, ill-informed cesspool of trolls, idiots and wannabees. You are one of the greats at your craft. Don't pay attention or give credit to the rubbish.

[@JordanHart-19PMCMusic]

Also the record company knew that Phil Collins' ballads would sell millions of records all across the world, because in his solo career that was probably what he was best at recording, and producing at the time, so his record company went ahead, and released them... So if you're going to blame anyone, blame the record company, and not Phil. You have nothing to apologise for Phil. Those that know you Phil... know... Simple as that...

[@rockista4195]

I find some of Phil Collins ballads too poppy for my taste, but I never change station when I hear them, it's good music anyway. One song I love is "I wish it would rain".

[@itsjusterthought7941]

Phil Collins is a musical powerhouse across all genres. All those that hate him are not music lovers. They are just small minded clan fans of a progressive rock group who felt betrayed when Phil Collins left to focus on pop rock. They believe he was responsible for Genesis focussing on pop rock. The fact is Phil Collins has an amazing voice and when writing for an amazing voice, you tend to write tunes that show off that voice. The other bandmembers just wrote what made him sound good. That's not his fault. For me Phil Collins earned his prog rock cred with the work he did on Steve Hackett's Voyage of the Acolyte. The prog drumming is superb and he made Star of Syrius shine. The haters are fools. Music is a lot larger than their small minds.

[@larswillsen]

How can they hate Phil? - He's music was played on American Psycho .. and Genesis ruled the world in the 70s .. we all have a little Phil in us 🙂

[@lundsweden]

Phils the void!

[@markfuller8047]

This man's contributions are huge. Fuck anyone who's ignorant of how vast and varied his work is. I don't like every Zeppelin or JB song, either, and it doesn't diminish my appreciation 1 fuck-all. Thanks Phil, for all the great music!

[@rustypiece2549]

Just envy, Phil

[@mjvanderpas2284]

Write a song about it, Phil. 'Why do people still hate me' would make a great title. Sting and Bono could do backing vocals.

[@gregoryphillips3969]

Phil Collins made so many people happy. Why he thinks he would have to apologize for anything he has done musically is incredibly wrong and sad. Man he was great, definitely great enough to be able to ignore a select group of idiots whose opinions aren't worthy of acknowledgment.

[@AngusRockford]

90% of the hate directed at Phil was just down to jealousy. Anyone selling records at the rate he did (and appearing in movies, on tv, etc) is going to get a certain amount of resentment. I’ve loved him and his music for 40 years, but by the late 80s, even I was getting tired of hearing his voice. In the U.S., it felt like you couldn’t go 5 minutes without hearing or seeing him on radio or television, even in the supermarket or the elevator. If a fan like me felt he was overexposed, I can imagine how people who *didn’t* like his music felt. Of course it wasn’t his fault, but his cultural ubiquity-extending to things like the Live Aid transatlantic stunt with the Zep reunion, the Prince’s Trust gigs, all the awards show appearances, sitting in with Clapton, Sting, and bunches of others, appearing on Miami Vice, movie soundtracks-it was A LOT! We all needed a breather after awhile. This interview was 10 years ago. I think those who “hated” Phil have since mostly mellowed, and those who were born after the height of his fame never had any such bias against him. I think many younger people now regard him much more as a modern pop music godfather in the company of people like Michael Jackson or Prince or Marvin Gaye rather than of British rock contemporaries like his Genesis mates or the fellows from Yes or Pink Floyd. I haven’t heard an unkind word about him in ages. For my part, I shed some tears when Genesis played their final gig with Phil.

[@396Cap]

Negative people are so exhausting. Love you Phil.

[@johnscullion3656]

'It is the privilege of the great to be misunderstood'. Phil Collins is an excellent drummer.

[@RGB06084]

Thanks John!

[@johnlowe-tq6ey]

Saw the invisible touch tour in late 80s......took me 2 weeks to come down

[@aminahmed2220]

Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day John ❤😊

[@frk75]

Journalists and casual listeners, why is phil so concerned about them isbeyond my comprehension

[@mickymarvin3241]

Phil is brilliant always has been ,the media lie about everything

[@davidyardley512]

Nothing to apologise for legend. Only for being a little too sensitive to criticism.

[@johnnix-buskingwithoutasaf9821]

Even when Phil released some of his cheesiest pop singles, I always cut him some slack as respect for him as a drummer who lived out of a suitcase for 2/3 decades cannot be denied by anyone. Genesis were surviving on green shield stamps and food parcels from Rutherford's Mum at one point. They never broke out of debt till Gabriel's departure. Phil will always be a "lifer" - someone who gave everything for the music for life. Total respect for him, even after "against all odds" comes blasting through the shopping mall pa.

[@mattleppard1964]

Also well put

[@regbowden6829]

What a Legend Phil is

[@MikeWolf-427]

Phil Collins is a Master of Music. I love P.C. and everyone I know Loves him. We will always love Inspector Good.

[@pr9062]

People should never underestermate how words can hurt people so much. He obviously takes things very hard.'He's rich and famous i hear you say'....but all that is irrelevant.

[@petermorris925]

He’s annoying and an absolute legend all in one. He’s one of a kind.

[@lundsweden]

I always liked Phil's music, even when its was considered daggy in the 90s.

[@termsofusepolice]

Phil's commercial pop drivel was only "hated" by critics and fans because he came out of one of the most admired and adventurous prog rock bands in music history. If Phil had come out of, say, Blood Sweat and Tears, the reaction to his solo stuff would have been entirely different. It's that simple.

[@123612100]

I think in terms of pop music his pop music is great.

[@SirKeefyKeef]

Take a chill pill Phil, you are still one of the greatest drummers that ever existed lol. 👍🙏😎

[@AndyMangele]

I must admit that I wasn't too keen on his rather lukewarm stuff - but having that said: "Face Value" is still one of my favorite albums of all times.

[@scottkelly9052]

Hello Friend, I always love reliving these classic interviews, these are, and will continue to be classic interviews that you will get no where else, do you do patrion , i would like to contribute ...be well & stay healthy.....😎

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[@COLDMKULTRA]

Phil was one of the greatest drummers ... and a fantastic songwriter. His only mistake was putting his face in extreme close up on his albums 🤣🤣🤣 (great interview Mr Edginton) 👍

[@396Cap]

Really? That was tongue in cheek I hope.

[@stephenturner6075]

This is a fantastic interview.

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Thanks so much Stephen!

[@petermorris925]

Edgnton just gets out of the way and lets his subjects be at their best, most open and honest. They trust him.

[@robertsayegh7944]

no jacket required my first album love you Phil saw his concert twice in Australia

[@JeffSherlock]

I have never disliked Phil at all. Not for a day.

[@jockejocke1]

When I think of Phil, oftentimes its because of that movie of his I watched when I was a kid (looking up the name of it right now....) Frauds from 1993. I actually haven't watched it in over thirty years and didn't remember much about it, only that Phil's part imprinted itself on me. It seems its on KZbin now at HD quality, and Hugo Weaving is in it! (I had forgotten that, too).

[@jockejocke1]

I also loved his one line in the movie Hook. "Well, one does." 😄

[@brianmillerthomas]

If you are going to be at the centre of something, you are going to attract love and hate. There will always be detractors - jealous, insecure, inadequate, people who have failed and who hate to see someone succeed. Welcome to our world!

[@buskman3286]

I didn't know Phil Collins was "hated" - this is news to me. I like his material, both his covers and his original material.

[@Some_Cat_]

Soppy ballads are more accessible to a wider audience than prog so in the court of public opinion, numbers are a factor. The fact that he's not a "pretty boy" might also have something to do with it. It's a huge shame Phil got so much stick though. He never deserved it and at the end of the day, he's a mega talent and that's what truly matters.

[@morningsky8045]

Phil comes in at number 5 on my personal list of all time great artists and number 2 as a solo performer. Those who don't like his work don't like real music imho.

[@jamesfarrow6752]

I’m not a fan of later Genesis and some of Phil’s solo work but that gives me no reason to hate him. There is a lot of music out there that I dislike but I don’t hate the artists because of it.

[@johnnyjensen8805]

Good for you👍

[@scottkelly9052]

Thanks!

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Thank you so much Scott for your contribution !! It really helps me to keep digging out more from my personal archive!

[@scottkelly9052]

@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Keep up the fantastic super duper work and I'll help out at least once a month, when you have great content, such as yours, you almost feel compelled to help.....or God forbid, it goes away.....😥😎👍

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Your generosity is much appreciated Scott!

[@billthepainter5106]

🎶He’s an Easy Target! Make a hit and people hear it!🎶

[@jefff6167]

Never hated PC. He was VERY overexposed. Taylor Swift should take a page, just saying.

[@billmay7364]

Phil Collins seems to have a Target on his back. Jokes Criticism ect. Look Closer to his body of work and you see some Masterful Works. Genesis Trick of the Tail stands as a Classic Prog Masterpiece. Live Record Seconds Out one of the Best Live records put on to Vinyl. Phil 1st Solo Record is great. Phil's work with Brand X. Phil drumming is right up there with the very best. His POP Sensibilites are noted as well. I tend to gravitate to the former. Took great Courage on Genesis last Tour . I wish Phil Peace in his last years. But the Skit on Saturday Night Live about his breakups is Hysterical.

[@JeffSherlock]

Most people have never bought an album in their lives. They go by 'celebrity' news shows.