"You Can't Change Sex!" LGB Alliance Founder Debates Transgender Inclusion

[@janicebeare8127]

I love how it's okay to identify as literally anything, but when someone decides to reverse it, suddenly you're not allowed to feel that way! It's so hypocritical

[@creativebyarmi]

This! 👏

[@salfordchris3035]

Spot on they will say oh that's ridiculous

[@evieblessed]

That's the nature of cults.

[@Rabbithole8]

Yes, and not only your feelings but thoughts. You must think someone is x, even though your mind is telling you otherwise. These people also demand that you deny your own thoughts when you utter words. You must not use the pronouns that correspond with your thoughts, but use the words others compel you to use.

[@salfordchris3035]

@@Rabbithole8 exactly their asking us to lie to ourselves and everyone else to fit a bonkers ideology

[@lemakim1128]

If you are having a genuine debate and someone says "That's transphobic!" , you know you've won the debate

[@neilburton8131]

we have the Godwins law now we need a saidwhatsaid law

[@berniefynn6623]

THIS WORD IS HATE SPEECH AND USED BY THE IMBECILES.

[@samsonlovesyou]

It's lost its power to silence people through overuse.

[@annas4843]

@lmfao69420I see what you did there 😏

[@jan9562]

Any criticism of the dogma is called transphobic.

[@PaulyGolightly]

James Barr should not be given a platform. He cannot form a cohesive argument, but relies on insulting other debators or shouting over them. He is not an appropriate guest to debate on any topic

[@Thenogomogo-zo3un]

That James jumped down Olis throat telling him what to say, think, answer, and dont go against 'our' agenda! What the hell!

[@markroyds23]

James bar is an idiot. He once said there's no reason men and women shouldn't compete against each other as there's no advantages for men 😂 he's stupid....

[@SEPK09]

James Barr is a pratt and far to loud and should step down from tV

[@brooklyniron1999]

James is a loud hot head - who shouts before 1) listening and 2) thinking about what he didn’t hear.

[@taliawilliams2401]

He is kept on for the very reason that he can't form a sensible argument. It just further proves the point that the trans movement is going too far in certain circumstances. It is a benefit to have someone so useless

[@jcdammittohell]

"LGB is about sexual orientation; T is about sexual/gender identity" Thank you Bev Jackson for putting that into a wonderfully simple and clear perspective

[@alexcia3221]

I'm a lesbian and i am utterly appalled to be part of LGBT community. This is because i have been called transphobic because i believe that a 5 year old can not make those types of decisions.

[@creativebyarmi]

I'm gay and I'm with you on this!

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

why be a part of it ? just be you

[@sgodsellify]

These two gay men talk about being inclusive, and that there are no problems in the LGBTQ community, which is complete BS. These days you have these Non Binary, and Gender Fluid individuals, which align themselves with the Trans community, but are not trans at all. These Non Binary and Gender Fluid individuals can change their gender identity, and pronouns whenever they want. There is no stability in a community that can change their gender identity, or pronouns at the drop of a hat. Plus how can any of those individuals ever begin to think about being mis-gendered, or worry about another person not using your current selection of pronouns? To some of those individuals it's like a pronoun du jour, or in other words it's like a soup of the day, only for pronoun usage. This is lunacy.

[@jde9711]

​@@creativebyarmithank god there are decent people like you. They are ruining it for you all and our young ones. This James guy does my head in. Oly I love. He has been there done it and James talking to him the way he does is making me squirm

[@creativebyarmi]

​@@jde9711I knew I was gay from a very early age, but being young it took me growing up to know what that truly meant. Kids may have feelings but they need to grow and learn themselves, before taking such drastic measures. When they are old enough and have experienced life and still feel the same way, then they can do as they please as it's no one else's decision but theirs. But for parents to make that grown-up decision for them and let them go through the life changing process, is crazy to me.

[@jayclark8284]

Notice how the young guy belittles Oli in order to undermine his arguments without addressing them. This tactic is what people are getting so tired of.

[@arlettasloan6453]

That's because to him Oli is just a pesky woman in disguise. "You don't know your own mind little woman." That's exactly how he was treating all the people that weren't gay men.

[@anastasiae.5338]

Hopefully banning tiktok will put an end to a lot of this self-marginalization and being put upon in order for views and likes. It's just encouraging narcissistic behavior.

[@kimrt37]

This was refreshing. It's high time the LGB and the TQ+ goes their separate ways. The T desperately needs the LGB to be on their side. The LGB does not need the T. They've completely highjacked the movement and taken it back decades!

[@jeffsimon9594]

Yes, great isn't it!

[@mikiohirata9627]

Trans + were always included in the original Gay liberation movements. Where and how did we think it's tarted from ? Stone wall Inn ! LGB never needed to add /accommodate Trans+ if you ask me. They are different arguments to human gender identity bussiness.

[@ryanorlando1122]

Also to make it even more confusing, I think like 70 to 80% of all Trans people transitioning today , are gay/lesbian in orientation.

[@hotdog1214]

@@mikiohirata9627 Stonewall was gay men and lesbians for the most part. The actual events are sketchy but many eye witnesses say it was ignited by a scuffle between police and Stormé DeLarverie, a lesbian woman. History also records the likes of Marsha P. Johnson as prominent figures but he was a self-proclaimed drag queen, not trans. Its a falsehood that the Stonewall riots and Gay rights were spearheaded by the Ts, and Peter Tatchell stating otherwise is codswallop and an insult to the generations who went before us.

[@clairhonnor6211]

​@@hotdog1214so disappointed with treacherous Tatchell

[@silentvoice4970]

Oli and Bev are talking sense. Peter & Pink Shirt are Gaslighting. Lesbians and Bi Women are against all this shit. I'm Bi & I stand with Lesbians.

[@Kappa_B]

You do not represent all bi and lesbians There is nothing proving that most lesbians disagree with trans rights and activists

[@imaginethat2003]

Dude in pink is hostile, and acts like heterosexuals can't have any opinion other than his. Grow up.

[@SexyBeautifulBabe]

There were no heterosexuals in the video 😂

[@theresecosgrove930]

Rotten isn't he?

[@pommiebears]

@@SexyBeautifulBabe He doesn’t ever agree when Piers is hosting either. He’s incredibly hostile, and a terrible ambassador for the LGBT Community. I wouldn’t want him representing me. Horrible boy. Lol.

[@utube1412]

Agreed he shouldn't be invited back...he adds nothing worthwhile to the discussion.

[@Conquistador75]

I bet his stand up comedy is really really funny

[@googleuser3163]

At this point being called Transphobic is a compliment that means you still have some attachment to reality.

[@synaesthesia4183]

Truth!!!

[@martinportelance138]

If being transphobic is trying to prevent more people from falling into it, then I'm definitely transphobic. The way I see it, real trans people (not merely travestites) are more akin to victims to a social contagion, a disease of the mind inflicted by trans-activists.

[@Adam-sd2ow]

And are None conformist

[@spruceandhemlock]

👏🏼🎯

[@sumisumi-by8xv]

Very well said, sir

[@bperry573]

The fact that the gay guy felt like he had to attack the detrans guy, before they even said anything, tells me all i needed

[@billyje4726]

So true!! 👈

[@kevinlocke6120]

He obviously hates women too

[@FungusMossGnosis]

This is the last time I click on a video that features that boorish "comedian". All he ever does is mindlessly spout politically correct slogans and insult guests. "Woke comedian" is a contradiction. To be a real comedian, you need to be unafraid of exploring any uncomfortable territory to get at the truth. He's a frightened little rabbit, foaming at the mouth.

[@jasonbaxter3658]

yep the gay guy was being incredibly rude and transphobic. Felt sorry for Oli who wasn't given a chance to share his point of view

[@PoAssProductions]

@@jasonbaxter3658all of them gay

[@PP-bw8ig]

My gay sister doesn't agree that there is a community, only a group of activists.

[@livelife5947]

I’m not interested in hearing men define womanhood. I’d like to hear more from lesbians on this issue. Typically all we hear is gay men speaking about what we are as women & what we should accept. They’re beyond disrespectful, misogynistic & patriarchal. Their opinions about women’s issues are completely invalid, they shouldn’t be given air time.

[@MsGreenmermaid]

Quite a lot of gay men are misogynistic I've found!

[@mollyhooper8674]

Exactly. It`s not affecting gay men. It`s affecting us. But yet again, we don`t have a voice, unless we agree.

[@laurenjones2909]

I agree 100 percent I hope the lesbian project takes off with julie bindle and kathleen stock , hopefully we get our lesbian only spaces back that would be nice woudnt it ladies😁✌

[@joshlife6395]

It is so ironic that the same groups that have claimed this "big evil patriarchy" being in control of the world, have openly allowed, supported and encouraged men to walk into the feminine space and take over womanhood- it's bizarre. Men, whether trans or gay, literally can not possibly know what it is like to be a woman- let alone then start to tell biological women what it is and how it should be defined.

[@raja.kohinoor]

As a gay man, most of us aren't like this, and i really am ashamed of the woke gay men, but i think you're taking about Dylan mulvaney who recently came out as " lesbian " . So he's not gay he's just a narcissistic straight man

[@sunekoo]

That young guy in the right not wanting to even discuss and calling it “boring” is typical of trans activism as they know that their ideas won’t stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. So instead they shout “transphobe!” as loud as possible in the hopes people will be scared and back down. Thank goodness for people like Bev for standing up to these bullies.

[@TheConscientiousView]

It seems like the modern day version of declaring someone “a witch!” or “Blasphemer!”. Nothing new under the sun.

[@aidananstey9848]

And any one who disagrees can be summarily dismissed as a "right winger". And young lesbian girls cutting their breasts off "NOT HAPPENING" SMH.

[@TeranRealtor]

That young guy learned from years of watching the homosexual community "debate" same sex marriage. The homosexual community bullied the country into HAVING same-sex-marriage, in courts........ then loudly proclaimed that "The majority of the country 'accepts' gay marriage!" - When more than half the states have a prohibition to it in their constitutions and 29 have passed laws banning it. But homosexuals (just like climate activists do...) proclaim it as a "given fact". Trans activists are now pulling the same trick.

[@iyke4566]

I am just surprised people take trans activistism seriously

[@TeranRealtor]

@@iyke4566 in the 50's, most people were surprised at how seriously McCarthy took the "Communist activists", believing that it could never take a foothold in this country. More recently, people were surprised at how seriously some took the homosexual activists, believing that same sex marriage could never be forced upon us. Soon enough, "grooming" will be protected by the courts (look to California now) and anyone speaking out against trans activists will be jailed (look to Canada and other countries already for this). Evil means business, and does not rest. Always take it seriously.

[@sammic7492]

Women aren't included in the conversation, we have NEVER been asked what we want or feel, we have never been consulted when companies, bars, restaurants etc get rid of our spaces they just do it and never consult us, we've NEVER been consulted about the dehumanising language that is used when referring to us, or the fact our rights are being trampled on by entitled and over indulged men. We're just supposed to be OK about it. James Barr needs to shut up, saying that we're included in the conversation when we aren't. I'm tired of men telling women what a woman is, and what's happening to women and our rights etc. he has no idea so perhaps he should shut up and listen, but he won't because he can't handle people disagreeing with him and certainly can't handle women telling him he's wrong.

[@mitch1847]

Incorrect. Conservatives want to protect biological females from these perverts who want to watch you in the bathrooms and showers. Conservatives want to ensure you have a level playing field in sports by not allowing someone who couldn't hack it with the men and ranked 490th out of 500 men swimmers to compete with women swimmers, then kick their ass and be placed on a pedestal like they're some kind of hero.

[@scottanonymous798]

As a man Sammi I couldn’t agree with your more, I don’t belong in womens bathrooms nor should I be able to dictate terms, but this is exactly what trans activists do they push there ideology on everyone then when you don’t agree with them they label you transphobic they are idiotic. Need to spend more time protecting our women who are our mums, sisters, daughters and less time giving a toss about the momentary wim of the trans extremists

[@briancosgrove3261]

It's women doing it too and allowing it to continue. There are a bunch of women pushing this shit don't let them brain wash you to hate men that is the goal to pit group vs group.

[@hoangling4344]

Congratulations, you have just experienced equality. Although you have only experienced 1/500th of what a man experiences on a daily basis, you have at least taken the plunge and dipped your toe in the experience of equality. It's as if you are dipping your toe into a lake of water - a lake in which thousands of men are drowning in and crying for help - and you're complaining, "How dare men make me dip my toe into this cold water! I'm tired of men telling me what to do!" That's how entitled and out of touch you are and ambivalent to men's predicament, feelings, and treatment. Just a small sampling of it and you come out cursing and blaming what you usually blame for everything - men. Men are burdened with carrying the entire weight of the world on their shoulders and get no recognition, rewards, or even acknowledgment of the sacrifices they make every day in the service of women and children. We are the providers, protectors, creators, builders, maintainers, inventors, defenders, workers, movers, and shakers. When an ice storm hits and the power lines are down, who do you think is out there in sub-zero temperatures stringing new power lines to keep you warm and cozy inside? It's not women. So now, a small group of men are calling themselves women and taking away a very small portion of the spotlight and attention from women and you go ape-sh*t. That's why most straight men stay out of this fray and just sit back and watch and laugh. Watching women get equality is as satisfying as watching busloads of illegal aliens dropped off in sanctuary cities. Isn't this what you wanted?

[@sammic7492]

@@briancosgrove3261 Trust me there are no words that can describe my level of contempt for those women pushing and accepting this crap, I don't hate men far from it, but I do have a problem with men who demand I allow them to infringe on my rights, and identity and use us as a shield etc. I also have a problem with men that insist on telling women what a woman is and how we are wrong when we tell them that being a woman is more than a feeling and no man can ever be a woman. We won our right to equality of opportunity half a century ago and yet we still have men (those appropriating our identities and those who want to be seen as inclusive or just good old fashioned misogynists) telling us what to think, feel and accept and that infuriates me, as I really thought we had come further than that, but it seems we are regressing and I despair for what the future holds for women and our rights.

[@erichpechin6900]

Didn't expect to side with Bev, but she was spot on. The T doesn't belong with the LGB.

[@jonyoder2356]

Right! How do we get that changed?

[@bowievision8291]

The lady is so right. LGB is about who you love. The T is a reflection on ego. Also Oli took decisions as an adult and felt regret afterwards. If anyone is entitled feel genuine concern, it must be Oli.

[@KurenaiTenka]

Yeah, the gobby child is implying that because Oli was also deluded into thinking he was transracial, he can't speak to the experience of people who are misled into transitioning. As if those same people also don't delude themselves into thinking they have split personalities, or are part animal, or are males who can menstruate. The fact that the delusion CAN go as far as what Oli experienced is WHY he's so well-placed to speak to this!

[@TheRetroManRandySavage]

Exactly. Sexuality and gender is mutually exclusive. I'm not surprised that the many in LGB community are so outraged by this.

[@lennymclean.]

Pink shirt is a leftist brainwash case. Tatchell is a spin doctor. Ollie and Bev are the ones worth listening to.

[@kevinbrewis6014]

can people not keep still when talking, wiggling arms and nodding heads, had to turn it off after 3 minutes

[@Sensorama2000]

Yes and he's been excommunicated by the gender nazies the moment he criticised the evil ideology behind transgenderism...

[@Moongazer101]

Trans should stop walking over biological women's rights.

[@wesmo_]

There is no such thing as Trans-sex.

[@stewartoneill8419]

I agree, but there's no need to say "biological women". Just say "women".

[@ChristianToth-uv1nv]

That’s right . Do not use any trans language, do not acknowledge that they exist, always “misgender” them and what you will find is that they will go away. The only reason they have any momentum is because the internet has made it seem like they have all this support, when in reality they don’t. It’s actually quite amazing. Mock distributions suggest that 9 in 10 Americans think this stuff is crazy, yet random polling reveals that ppl think 50-75% of the country politically supports Trans ideology. Most ppl are using the internet to gauge what they think the level of support is and it is truly amazing how we have conned ourselves into this. The internet has warped our perception of reality to such an extent that companies like Bud Light actually think that most of their consumers support Trans ideology, when they don’t at all, and thats why if you were scratching your head dumbfounded that they are running themselves into the ground.

[@mystic22g4]

Transgender activist don't want biological women to stand up for women's rights they want biological women to fight for biological men to be recognize as women.

[@Moongazer101]

​@@stewartoneill8419 A woman is still defined by her biological nature and rightly so. The trillions of chromosomes a person has when they are born cannot be changed.

[@edwinnetto6248]

As a retired gay who went through the struggles, police raids & brutality, I wonder who appointed the radical activists like Peter as our representatives? Bev makes so much sense!

[@brocktoon8]

According to Fred Sargent who was at the Stonewall riot, there were no trans people leading that protest; it was lesbians. Peter is so full of shit.

[@pommiebears]

I imagine it must be frustrating for you. ❤

[@ezze2901]

how do you retire gay ?

[@Earth.VS.Humans]

​@@ezze2901 😅

[@lurpdeedurp5890]

@@ezze2901 Someone who has retired from working and is also gay…

[@Aldous944]

Bev Jackson makes a lot of sense. The shift from sexual relationships into the politics of gender identity is making a mess of women's and gay rights.

[@oofmaster3000-y8o]

I'm a detransitioner. She's my hero. I love listening to everything she says. She is incredibly intelligent and logical.

[@GlennWD]

As a 34yr old gay man, it is definitely time for the lgbt community to break up. Enough is enough.

[@raja.kohinoor]

As a 16 year old gay guy I'm so agree with you

[@firpomaan5544]

As a 4 year old gayboy I think some groups (Trans) are giving other groups a bad name.

[@raja.kohinoor]

@@firpomaan5544 u really thought u were being funny , okay I'll play along 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@emmanuelginikanwa283]

Kindly not that the root cause of all the issues that have risen is 'homosexuality'. Nobody is born gay, you're socialized into it, so channel your 'pride' in the right direction

[@2Black4yall]

As a 6yrs old TransBoy, I am in agreement with you...

[@HappyClapper63]

gay men telling lesbians they are wrong on how they feel .... gold

[@lynjeffery6860]

Exactly what I said. You can't even make this is shit. Even in 2024 us women are STILL being degraded lower then MEN. Their jealous they can be us doesn't matter what they do. That's what it boils down to.

[@BananaExpress-er8sm]

I had to learn the hard way how misogynistic gay men are

[@feelingbouncy]

Gay telling lesbians they are wrong. Trans women telling women they are wrong. This is just Misogyny at it's best!

[@ITLBGaming]

Fuckin amen 😂😂

[@bubblesawesome3284]

No gay men aren’t real apparently because that’s trans phobic.

[@eyesee2339]

Interesting that grown adults who choose to detransition are shamed while the same people show zero shame pushing children to transition. I think that says it all.

[@CYOApg53]

What I find astounding is many of the same people who argue that people (particularly trans) should be able to identify as whoever they are and that everyone should respect and support those choices (pronouns, names, etc) are the ones shaming people for simple things like requesting to be called "she" or "him" and not "they," or to ask to not be referred to as a cis-gendered person. And even more mind-boggling is that the person who is detransitioning is being shamed for it. What is more basic to the argument supporting trans rights other than that individuals ought to be able to identify as a different gender and be allowed to modify their body to match that identity? I really don't care how anyone chooses to identify as long as they're not harming anyone else and yet I see that there is hypocrisy on the part of some trans activists. It's become so extreme that a person can't even have a logical, fact based conversation without being called transohobic if you're not on the "no questions asked" trans rights train. Respect is demanded and not necessarily earned or returned. Saying this is all about choice but then denying others the right to choose for themselves is absolutely ridiculous.

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

Looks like that de-population theory wasn’t a “conspiracy theory” after all.

[@susieroy8565]

Yep

[@gwendavies4509]

no one pushes children to transition. it just doesnt happen

[@L-W-ko1hn]

​@gwendid your cult groomers tell you that? davies4509

[@legato699]

I want to hear Bev Jackson more. Invite her again.

[@LeaMumof3]

I could have listened to that woman for hours. She was fabulous. That young bloke who tried to weaponise Olis prior trans status was telling. Supprt trans but demonise detransitioners.

[@David-vh8op]

Absolutely it's all about acceptance, understanding and respecting other people's personal choices in how they identify.... Until that person disagrees with you or challenges your ideas, then you disregard everything that they say, attack them, ridicule them for how they identify themselves deny them to have a voice in the conversation. Complete hypocrisy as always

[@squodge]

Yeah, James (the young bloke) also got upset when he was called 'woke' (which he is). The way he just laid into Oli was uncalled for.

[@steve10]

It's shows their vile little personalities, bitchy queens getting nasty because someone has a different opinion. His attack was as bad as this so called trans phobia, which in reality is people with common sense essentially telling the truth about men can't be women, the mentally disturbed however call it transphobia , well if my common sense is that , then so be it , I dont really care tbh.

[@c.b.h1151]

They're all like that. Aggressive, shouty, loud, overriding, fascist, homophobic.

[@bereal6590]

@@Now4wheels he was dismissive because if you didn't notice this Ollie guy has his own agenda and is clearly a very mixed up person. Now they're jumping on the no im a man who is Asian bandwagon. Clearly a messed up person

[@stewartmitchell-q2p]

I am a gay man and I want nothing to do with trans. And I’m not the only one.

[@trevorjones104]

So imagine, if you will, just how us straight types feel about being labeled "Trans-Phobic" and making headlines, when we express that we don't really want to 'Date' a Trans! Pretend will only get you so far. I can buy a life size doll with cartoon grade proportions, but no matter how much I imagine it might be so, it still isn't the same as having a girlfriend!

[@ZootZinBootZ]

@@trevorjones104 I had a person who was purely a unspecified androgynous person to me , fall into a lusty crush on me - I'm just a really normal woman who was projecting more acceptance and less affected perceptions and attitudes towards this great kind person who was expecting to find males were their respective likely partner target zone - but it turned out the guy was really Just a lesbian and that sort of reversed their priorities about assuming further female targets... It's Just a little more interesting out to in the world with more veriety and more acceptance.. or stay full of fear of colour scheme austenitic

[@jennag3226]

​@@ZootZinBootZ what?😂

[@trevorjones104]

@@ZootZinBootZ This may shock you, but when a Biological Male, decides he likes Biological Females, we usually call him "Straight", not Lesbian. LOL!

[@DanielaEvans-j2p]

I'm a lesbian and I don't want to be associated with the TQ and what ever letters come after B. They're poison

[@ThePlaiibox]

Bev is completely on the money here. Well said 👏

[@MK-cm8ec]

It’s so rude when James says it’s boring. I’ve heard him on two panels and he behaves the same way. He talks over people. Now he made fun of a panelist’s appearance. Disgraceful!

[@gwendavies4509]

he's saying its boring because the same talking points are being brought up time after time. points that have been debunked a million times. also he didnt make fun of anyone's appearance

[@srcwolf]

@@gwendavies4509 dont tell me you dont think for yourself so sad they didnt fucking debunked anything and james do make fun of people

[@gwendavies4509]

@@srcwolf just because you personally arent able to understand how the anti-trans talking points are debunked, doesnt mean they havent been debunked.

[@TsaicoGaming]

And just because trans activists say things have been debunked, doesnt mean theyve been debunked 🤦🏻‍♂️ to prove a point, only thing ill say: the "life-saving procedure" of gender reassignment surgery does NOTHING to the suicide rate of trans people.​ @gwendavies4509

[@BrightAngel034]

@@gwendavies4509he said to the panelists your trying to look like a Japanese celebrity he made a rassict remark to the panelist after he shut down he’s debate

[@LAGoodz]

I’m Gay, I hate being referred to as in the LGBT community. I’m just gay. I’ve nothing against it, but nothing in common.

[@jawsjaws4018]

I agree the whole community idea is ridiculous. If I live next door to a gay man, he's a man who happens to be gay in my community. Same for a black man, I don't go "oh he's part of the black community". It literally causes further divide. I've been going bald for some years now, maybe I'm part of the bald community!😅 Where does it all end!!!!

[@LAGoodz]

@@jawsjaws4018 I’m bald too! Problem solved - LGBT+Slap Heads

[@jawsjaws4018]

@@LAGoodz Damn right mate!!! Let's get this written up and I'll see you at the next parade! I'll be the one with the picket sign that reads 'FUCK YOU RAPUNZEL !' 👍

[@tee2896]

I like what you said. I respect you. I respect some gay people. I respect some trans people. I respect some hetro people. If I respect you, it has nothing to do with you sexuality of identity. I respected based people based on their personality and integrity. Some may argue that gay and trans has no integrity, but I argue that what do honor, or integrity has to do with sexual preference?

[@te3e]

I’m lesbian and 100% agree with you

[@rachellandherr5262]

Stay strong Bev. Don’t let these men push you around.

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

Yes. She's very good at not letting them. She is good at commanding attention and holding it, because she's an excellent speaker and communicator on this issue.

[@davidizod1243]

Bloody right. I am tempted to say that the whole trans movement is yet another disguised attempt for men to tell women how they should behave and what they should think.

[@blueeyeddevil454]

Men? lol.

[@geoffdean2372]

She’s not got a big mouth on her.

[@richalderson6069]

It was almost like everything was floating in a delusional dreamworld till Bev started speaking and we all came down to earth again.

[@theresecosgrove930]

Like coming out of a bad trip.

[@Jessica_Crease87]

I was a huge tomboy in school! I wore baggy Jncos, hats, boxers, etc.... In my school days NOT ONE person ever said to me that I was confused and must want to be a male! Not once did they ask if I was confused! I'm 37 years old now! I'm a mom and have been with my husband 19 years! EVERY child, especially girls go through a time especially during puberty where they don't feel comfortable I'm their skin! It's a part of life! I was flat chested and hadn't menstrated until I was 17! I was a late bloomer! All the other girls developed before me! I was super self conscious about that! I hated my nose etc...... that doesn't mean I was confused in my identity! It's just insane!

[@melissadunton3534]

Exactly! I was the same. Except different generation, so different fashion choices. 😂😂 But yeah, didn’t get my period til I was 16, wore “boys” clothes, did “boys” activities, etc… I’m 51, a mom, a grandma, was happily married for 27 years and am now a widow…but not once did anyone tell me that I was gender confused. My parents told me it was normal and just let me be me. It also didn’t help that I was the only girl amongst myself and siblings…so literally no one to go through female puberty with when I did hit puberty. Almost all of my friends went through the same things I did, we just did it at different times of life…as I was a late bloomer. 😊 Btw, I’m still flat chested. 😂😂

[@blurdreamer]

Yup, ppl have to reached 18yo to be allowed to vote their president, how the hell the kid could decide what their gender supposed to be? It’s insane.

[@moon-kuess]

Save the tomboys!!

[@Sophie-bw7zy]

I’m not a lesbian but feel for that specific community. It is a slap 👋🏻 in the face watching two men tell a woman what she should feel. Tired of men like this.

[@jasonantigua6825]

@jim ster you now agree with slavery then?

[@k-dude4514]

Aww poor victim.

[@ballyod]

@@jasonantigua6825 They repented their sins. How can they possibly support slavery?😆 Tool🤪

[@ballyod]

You can call them ‘men’ if you choose. I beg to differ.

[@bruce8359]

all of em are full of sh....t

[@petecooke7239]

I am a gay black man who does not support Pride Month, and after watching segments from ‘What is a Woman,’ I feel thoroughly disgusted by the left. I wish I could easily distance myself from the gay community. My sexual orientation cannot and will not ever change, but I can certainly choose who I associate with, donate my funds to, and support politically. By the way, I have been ‘misgendered’ over the phone, and it has happened to me throughout my adult life. I don’t alter my voice; I speak naturally. I have never gotten mad when people say ‘Yes ma’am’ to me over the phone. How or why would I? They cannot help or change how I sound, and I cannot blame them for their perceptions. These individuals really need to understand and move past it.”

[@AlexShiro]

I’d only disagree on orientation not changing; mine did n I actually met some who had theirs change which really rocked my world n what I thought I knew, however it was their true journey and I had to respect that, so I did. However, I’d respectfully definitely agree with everything else you said. I had GD for years of my life and was seen as quite androgynous, did not subscribe to gendered roles, aside from obvious biological differences with reproduction and overall strength, and came to peace with my birth sex in my late 20s without transing. Male and female are what they are. I’m ok if ppl want to act/dress along with cultural stereotyping as they choose, but it doesn’t change their sex. Personality and preferences aren’t sex or all we are. I’ve been misgendered, lol since childhood n realised it was no big deal, just as you did. It seems like something is missing for those who can’t have a good natured laugh and just go about life.

[@heyitsmichael6256]

Ecclesiastes 10 1 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. The Holy Spirit sums it up right here. What you won't hear in a WOKE Church.

[@Charlie-i3v5e]

All gay people that I know are exactly like you. They get on with their lives. They fit in with everyone around them. It is the transgender group who is different.

[@paulreader1777]

@@heyitsmichael6256 Try checking the true definition of wokeness. You will find that Jesus was woke by the true definition. It has nothing whatever to do with transgenderism, or whether you are dextrous or sinister (you can look up their original meanings too).

[@TauLucas]

@@Charlie-i3v5e I'm trans and I believe the problem is people are negating simple facts because they want to be the "real" version of whatever gender they picked for themselves while seeking validation from others. I'm first generation Episcopalian Haitian American and I knew from 6y/o I wanted to be a boy. I was raised in the church and was never allowed to have American friends or watch American TV. I didn't know it was an option to alter your body until I was 23 years old and at 26 I socially and medically transitioned. Life has been extremely easy except for losing my grandmother and the pandemic. We all have one life. Let parents raise their children. Send neglected children to CPS. Stop seeking validation from others. Give people access to valid mental health professionals and drink wanter and eat quality whole foods from time to time. It's really not that deep.

[@Amae580]

Thanks Ollie London and Bev for sticking up for women.

[@VTH599]

I love to hear how articulate Ollie is.

[@nafrayu9832]

You do realize that they did so with lies and misinformation 🤦‍♂️

[@marc7983]

if the other one wasn't in Bronski Beat, he shouda been

[@Muppet160]

​@@nafrayu9832what are the lie?

[@Bouch1018]

@@nafrayu9832classic claims with no evidence.

[@danielbalderrama4137]

9:29 "no proof of that happening " there is literally a student presenting each week to a different school board council saying how these ideals are being forced on them. Literally every week.

[@rosetealatte9282]

Every single time I see James in an interview he name calls, bullies, and tries to shut up the other person if they don't agree with him. He is a very poor representative for his so called 'community.' He well expresses why people are sick of this topic. Because its 'believe what I believe or else' and its disgusting.

[@whitewhale9012]

Yup. Its bigotry. Any disagreement in opinions or values is confronted with rage and hate. That's what bigotry is.

[@nochpo4230]

He represents his community accurately: violent, loudmouthed thugs

[@Mozgor]

Couldn’t agree more, he’s a narcissist

[@nimit2535]

Yeh, he comes across as a bitter bully. Definitely has issues that one. Anyone who's constantly hostile and defensive can't be happy or balanced in their brain.

[@Krystlist]

the fact that he represents transpeople when he isnt one (as far as i know) is what is weird af

[@karensenneron3983]

I feel for Bev. She made a very coherent and undeniable statement about all the implications and repercution of the trans-activism, and was shut down by words that couldn't meet the same intellectual standard. You spoke the truth Bev and you've been heard.

[@gandalfhan]

Tell me you and your friend have Medieval-like understanding of gender and sex without telling me you do Karen:

[@CdrRogdan]

@@gandalfhan The people in medieval times had a better understanding of sex and gender than the alphabet crew does.

[@gandalfhan]

@@CdrRogdan sure they did.

[@CdrRogdan]

@@gandalfhan They definitely did. They knew that there was man and woman and that's it. Anything else is a mental disorder.

[@phunchu8202]

​@@gandalfhan Tell me you think gender and sex are different things without telling me you are an idiot.

[@kamilbraszka6805]

People in their own community being labeled "transphobic", because they disagree...God help us!

[@bereal6590]

James was right. Bev was being nasty as hell. What stupid stuff she spouted, she is acting now like how heterosexuals acted towards gays. The woman is nuts

[@Dano.G]

How do you think Nazis got in power? If you were against them, you were labeled a Jew supporter. The Antisemitism sentiment grew to be the perceived majority at the time in Germany. Same today with the woke labeling anyone who disagrees racist, sexist, misogynistic, transphobic, homophobic, ableist, etc. Things currently seen as bad in our current sociopolitical climate. Done in order to shut down debate, love the one on the right said, he's not interested in talking about this, it's boring, what's the point... Blah blah blah. Truth is, they avoid debating it because they don't have logical arguments... They don't exist because their entire worldview is built on falsehoods. All they have is emotional appeal, another logical fallacy. They attempt to bully others into compliance through shame and reputation damage. That's what women do... Hmmm, so if it's not lesbians pushing this stuff... It must be straight women... Women brainwashed into Wokeism in college and public schools, now in the workforce in positions of power... That's who the enemy is. They are evil! Narcissistic, Machiavellians or psychopathic leaning women.

[@bflower1562]

You took the words out of my mouth..Pls ask god to help me too.🙏😳

[@Kaspleen]

And people who don’t like pride month are apparently homophobia and should be made to feel uncomfortable. This was posted but some people on my social media feed and It is utterly ridiculous

[@avocadopower86]

Help them, i'm chill.😂

[@theunknownsamurai7426]

This insane! People telling others how they should act, talk and feel.

[@ukbloke28]

This James Barr is a perfect example of what is wrong with these people. He's literally saying you can identify with whatever you like AS LONG AS IT'S WHAT THEY WANT. Who the hell is he to tell anyone what to think and do?

[@kimbarnes7901]

He's really unfunny calls himself a comic. I'd go to consumer protection.

[@miruuuuuuuu]

I wanted to see James Barr's show online to evaluate how his comedy is and how many people give appreciation it on social media. There were none. James Barr is quite a sad sight to see, really, to succumb to being a pretentious and possibly delusional person.

[@Bails0796]

I feel like this James Barr is only a comedian when he is in this studio. He plays the role well of a completely deluded man who spouts rhetoric and shouts down anyone who doesn't agree with him. Pretentious little man with a loud voice is all he amounts to.

[@moka1251]

Ik and it really doesn't help that he looks EXACTLY like Humpty Dumpty

[@BestHKisDLM]

IMO he’s doing great comedy on news. Other than that it’s just another ehmm…

[@zs9458]

The young dude immediately showed his defeat and his intention by trying to insult Ollie when Ollie mentioned something reasonable and logical that the young dude had no argument against

[@johnpatrick9552]

That's a dude? 😂

[@solentforest]

Which was?

[@Springbankmassive]

I didn't see any dudes on there just attention seeking pricks

[@caseyrounsaville1258]

i think that young dude is a pastor of an lgbt church. left me heated when he called god a liar basically said that Adam eating the fruit is the action we should take in our life.

[@miruuuuuuuu]

@@caseyrounsaville1258 the young dude claims to be a comedian with no videos of him doing comedy online. That is highly unlikely if he does succeed in comedy. I think he's a person who gives himself more titles than his audience count.

[@elduchie68]

To the young people watching, I'd like to give you some of the best advice I've ever heard.... The world, nor anyone in it could give a shit how you feel. Share that with your family and maybe they will. The real world will not. Good luck kids.

[@livelife5947]

It’s not everyone’s job to affirm & validate random strangers. They’re nothing but entitled brats throwing toddler tantrums because they’re not getting enough attention.

[@ChatwithTheTycoon]

Great advice.

[@beecat9951]

And that includes trans activists who couldn't care less about how anyone else feels.

[@mitch1847]

@jim ster Which one? The Vineyard Jesus? The Oneness Jesus? The Mormon Jesus? The Charismatic Jesus? The Jehovah Witness Jesus? The Roman Catholic Church Jesus? The First Baptist Church down the road on the corner of 1st St. and Main Jesus?

[@Celtictribes]

​@@jimster-lb6weOh great advice follow a non existent god !

[@Square-nose]

You wanna know what, Oli London has come a long way. Good for him. He woke up and now is fighting for the right thing

[@rosemantle4180]

Agree. Hopefully this ideology will phase out when these people wake up.

[@janeb2357]

@@rosemantle4180 Wakening up the "woke"

[@critiquekid200]

True. He even is like, he has no problem for people wanting to become trans but the real problem are people who are denying the reality. Simple! He definitely came a long long way!

[@lmj2403]

Oh shame... Poor James has to resort to claiming transphobia.... Poor baby, nasty people are being ugly to him... Ugh. Grow up and rejoin the rest of us in the real world. Bev, you deserve a medal.

[@personalcheeses8073]

He’s a child

[@RestorationsFOD]

@@personalcheeses8073 A spoilt one at that

[@doomboydoomable]

he's an absolute dick, i enjoy listening to him just so i can get irrate about him lol he's so blinkered, only his opinion is the right one

[@thetone79]

100% agree. Be fair to gay and lesbian people, couples. Be real ❤

[@joshuabray37]

The last time he was on, he criticized Douglas Murray for being a CIS man. Douglas destroyed his argument because he is a proud gay man.

[@brocktoon8]

Everything Bev Jackson said is completely right.

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

Yes, she is fantastic. I've got to look her up and join up with her. I want to join up with her to work on this and support what she's doing. She is absolutely right that there are HUGE numbers of lesbians who can't stand this takeover of our rights.

[@biggregg5]

I'm straight, and I feel for her. She made total sense. One can be supportive of another group without being part of it. I'm supportive of those who want to be trans with the exception of some very strange ideologically driven principles they are pushing.

[@ireallymeanthis2760]

Everyone needs to hear more from her. I think she was about to correct Tatchell's revisionist views regarding the alleged involvement of trans persons at the outset of the gay rights movement.

[@dobanks]

The Adult in the Room.

[@paulw5039]

@@dobanks Exactly. She's talking calmly and logically, whereas the trans activists were shouting over people, throwing around accusations of 'transphobe' (as if that is somehow an argument, instead of a thought-terminating cliché). She talked like an adult and they threw tantrums like children, like they always do.

[@whistlingmeerkat]

That guy James will never convince anyone while he bullies other people and name calls when he can't win arguments.

[@genuinejustin6269]

I know, dude is the definition of an SJW snowflake. He's so delusional that nothing anyone says will ever fix his stupidity.

[@karensimpson4869]

Yes and as a gay woman it’s a mine field .

[@clairemeehan7250]

Yep - he's sat there denying any division in the community, whilst demonstrating the fact. And you're exactly right because he does bully.

[@onlyhyuk]

Trans really don't know how to engage in healthy arguments. Every time they run off logical things say they result in shouting down the other side. It would be for their benefit if for once they just debate with logic and scientific evidence.

[@Hllee6428]

Yeah I don’t get why James keeps getting invited to such talk shows ever since he made a fool of himself in that episode with Douglas Murray.

[@debbieharper4771]

I think they all need hobbies. They've run out of things to think about, so they've turned to making up names.

[@lauwc1997]

This lady is spot on. It is time for people to wake up and drop the topic. Just teach our children biology.

[@ADavis-xy8oj]

As a woman … this is tiring! …Women are women and men are men ! End of

[@jro182]

Wow… bigot! Jk, I agree with you. Just poking fun.

[@lindark28]

@Davis-xy8oj exactly 💯 agree, this james bloke is so pathetic in his views he's totally wrong seen him on piers Morgan, saying that Sam Smith wanted to be known as them 😂😂 but he just embarrassed himself, and Peter tatchell is just as bad,and yes women are women and men are men fact

[@lueyteledeluxe7457]

​@@jro182 Scarily, you genuinely couldn't tell .. without the qualifier at the end..

[@jameseverett4976]

Remember though, it's only their feelings that count. This is what they mean by "rights". YOUR feelings can only be interpreted as 'bigoted'.

[@gamejedi]

Spoken like a true layman.

[@spicey1731]

I came out as lesbian in 1995. This is nuts. Who you sleep with is not the same issue as who you are and whether it can change based on mood, perception, perhaps trauma, etc. The fact that most interactions with trans folks devolves into screaming and ad hominem without much actual clarification of terms and illumination of nuances.

[@spicey1731]

And it seems like lesbians have simply disappeared.

[@AlexM-ht9ff]

nice job. trans girl here from the early 90s, your statement is very false. majority of all trans people live peaceful lives and dont bother no one. it's filth like you is to why we're having these conversations. get over it. we exist.

[@TheGamerFrog7048]

Drop the T

[@AlexM-ht9ff]

@@TheGamerFrog7048 . Drop the bigotry. The T has been part of LGB for DECADES, even before you were born! If bigots like you had your way (it will never happen) you'd go after the LGB next. Since bigoted right-wingers cant seem to stop the T, they are now attempting to align themselves with LGB in an attempt to be sneaky. We won already. Deal with it.

[@thelnepoet1]

"Perhaps trauma" So far as I've seen, most trans are abuse victims in childhood. Makes you wonder if it's about not wanting to be themselves for self-protection.

[@PaulLaurinD]

What a world. I can’t finish this one. God bless

[@xhelan131]

I am a gay man and i do not want the T to be anywhere near me at all. They are, at best, bullies these days. We are not a small fraction, we are actually the majority, but the bullies shut us down.

[@NoMoreGreasyWokeFolk]

Thank you!!!!!!! They are ruining things I think.Have you heard of " gays against groomers "?

[@sairamsoundararajan5190]

​@@NoMoreGreasyWokeFolkhell yeah fuckin right!!

[@mpicc4808]

And you do nothing. Remember, heterosexuals gave you your existence.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

I've got a gay friend who likes to do female cosplay (we're anime fans) and even HE agrees that the activists aren't really helping matters. He's even afraid to show himself in public, he's hiding his real self

[@bev4155]

All ground gained in the 80s and 90s has been destroyed and drug the rest of us back in the closet.

[@te3e]

I’m lesbian and can’t stand being labelled as being a part of the “lgbt+ community” it’s ridiculous

[@ElGuerreroMaya]

Just the assumption that all those people are one homogenous community is stupid and preposterous, I have thought that LGB people should separate from the T, since the gender ideology agenda and sexualization of children is absolute madness.

[@angelsadventure4996]

Why? Asking out of curiosity because I do not understand.

[@te3e]

@@angelsadventure4996 because I am a human being, not a label. I don’t see a community for the straight people & I don’t see straight people having to explain why they are straight. I’m a 21 year old female human being, that’s it, I do not feel the need to associate myself in a community just because I was born a lesbian.

[@davidmaltais2912]

​@@te3e I think exactly like you heterosexual people don't go around making sure everyone knows they are part of the straight crowd and are proud to be straight... It's just rediculous were are all just humans

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

I can't stand that some would presume that lesbians feel "community" with gays or people who say they're "born in the wrong body." I certainly don't. My community is lesbians who do not want Ts anywhere near us, and are not willing to have our rights to female-only sports, spaces, and our language removed by them.

[@donaldburkhard7932]

Bev had good point LGB was relationships/sexual orientation. NOT GENDER!

[@CYOApg53]

I noticed that one too. I found it to be a simplisticly deep comment on how the conversation has changed from one centered around relationships of whatever kind to one that's centered on the individual. There's something to be said about a shift in discourse that moves from "we" and "us" to "me," "I," and "you" (of course these are just my initial thoughts on her statement. It's going to be sitting with me for a while)

[@gamejedi]

It's that simple? Tell me. If a man dates a trans woman, is he gay? If a trans man dates a woman, is she lesbian? I'll tell you, men dating trans women are accused of being gay, despite never having been interested in men before or afterwards. Gay men are absolutely not attracted to trans women, despite them being biologically male. Why are these things true? Is it not possible that relationships and/or sexual orientation are in some way involved here? Even indirectly?

[@foulplay99]

The LGB's have been saying forever now they don't associate with each other, and certainly not with the T's as well. A lot of them don't like the umbrella "Community" term either because they hate the mainstream gay agenda and all the corporate pandering all the time. They just want a normal life without all the BS being thrown in everyone's faces. Like why do we have Pride Month when gay people in the UK form roughly 1.5% of the population?

[@ragnarok7976]

You can tell they are different quite easily because attraction is actually "owned" by the individual. I can show up to a party with my boyfriend and people can understand that I have a different attraction that does not affect them. If I show up and say "I'm a woman" I have to get them to agree that biological fact was never a thing and that they have to use my words in accordance with my preference at the expense of their preference and their vocabulary.

[@faithscheetz5361]

I thought her point on girls who are gay being told they must be a boy

[@louisastead569]

Thank God for Bev and Ollie! Bless their hearts.

[@samg8840]

As a gay man its time to separate the LGB from the TQ+

[@anthonyoz6113]

exactly it is totally fvcked the tq are identities not sexualities

[@jtrain5615]

absolutely

[@joeroberts2298]

Totally agree fellow gays bi lesbians need to stop this woke rubbish that is destroying us

[@VenusEvan_1885]

100%

[@Bad-wolfe]

as another gay man totally agree with you

[@cali5ive124]

Sorry for two posts, but i'd LOVE to hear more from Mrs. Bev Jackson. She makes more sense than anyone ive heard so far.

[@turns2ashes]

One of my friends is a lesbian, a very outspoken lesbian and she is now scared to go to pride events due to men putting on dresses and claiming to be women. She says a lot of her lesbian friends feel the same. Bev is right.

[@royboy6890]

Thats the problem with Tatchell and the other guy being the spokespersons for the trans movement. They will never feel fear of a woman putting mens clothes on and claiming to be a man and at the same time no male athlete will feel threatened by a F/M trans competing against them. Keep men out of women's spaces.

[@MFYouTube683]

That’s not what people in the LGB are talking about, and it sounds stupid and made up. Have you met a real lesbian? Like .. in your life? Read what you wrote 😂 What we ARE discussing is that LGB should separate from the TQIA+, because sexuality and gender identity are completely separate issues. TQIA+ is about power, it is about the DEMAND that we as a society validate their subjective experience against our objective reality. Gay / Bi people just wanted the freedom to love whom we please and for it not to be criminalized - granted we got more with marriage equality etc. But these trans-issues are creating resentment in the entire population including among the LGBs and the violent hatred and public shaming, the doxing of people, causing them to lose their jobs etc. simply because it is not acceptable that a minority kicks up such a stink to feel validated. I am tired of having to explain that I don’t defend the trans agenda, that I don’t agree that trans women should participate in women’s sports and that trans women with penises are entitled to access lesbian spaces. This whole debate is absurd, it makes us vulnerable and destroys 60 years of political progress to accommodate a fringe group that craves above all power and that has stylized a mental health issue into an oppressed minority while using tactics, language and a distinct form of psychology that is reminiscent of what happened in Germany in the 1930s. Seriously - take a closer look, it’s unsettling and it is like a cancer.

[@jamiejosh96]

Yes, because being trans isn’t a sexuality… it has nothing to do with being gay which is what pride was about. It’s totally lost what it stands for

[@turns2ashes]

@@jamiejosh96 💯

[@hazelpollittside6344]

If it has a penis he's still male......keep em out of womens toilets prisons and other spaces!

[@Littlemiss79Janine]

Oh my word this James Barr guy! 🙈 I honestly can’t deal!

[@igloozoo3771]

Ollie's transformation from delusional to level headed truth seeker is quite Amazing that people totally seem to ignore.

[@hey_wolf]

I was shocked at what he was saying he was so real

[@MaisyTalerico]

Yes it was horrible seeing the man insulting him basically to get his point through, saying that because he wanted to be a bts character makes his opinion invalid… Oli has definitely grown from that and it’s amazing!

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

That’s the spirit of God working in him.

[@MilesIsAHottie]

Seeing the title of the video and not knowing who is who though remembering Ollie as that famous person who did so many crazy things, I was shocked to see him being the reasonable person instead. But also, it makes sense cause he's the one who is the "been there done that" while the other gay guy is the young and immature one.

[@igloozoo3771]

​@@MilesIsAHottie Leftists want gay people to remain Godless and Promiscuous and out of their minds.

[@rendezvouzwithrama]

1:06. No they weren't, they were cross dressing gay men, not trans. When trans activists are saying that a lesbian is a bigot if she doesn't want to have sex with a trans woman, when they are saying that men not wanting sex with a trans woman are bigots, it's ridiculous. Both don't want to have sex with biological men. That isn't bigotry, just common sense.

[@melissadunton3534]

Exactly. I have been an ally forever, my dearest friend for over 30 years is a drag queen. He is not transgender, nor transsexual. He is a gay man. He is not attracted to trans men, period. But he is called transphobic, can you imagine!? That makes us laugh and cry a bit, because ppl are so ridiculous these days when it comes to sexual attraction. As though you can choose who you’re attracted to. If that were the case no one would be gay to begin with, right?? These people are fighting against everything that was fought for, for so long and they don’t even see that. So… We think the confusion started because we used to call cross dressers/drag queens transvestites. I believe that is why the ‘T’ was added to the LGB movement to begin with and people weren’t aware that it wasn’t about transsexuals or transgender individuals. At least that is what myself, my bff and all of the “girls” in the drag community believe happened. We may be wrong, but we do all agree that being trans is not the same as being part of the gay/lesbian/bi-sexual community.

[@rendezvouzwithrama]

@@melissadunton3534 Exactly. Nowadays it seems there's no such person as a transvestite, because if you cross dress you are trans. Most cross dressers were actually straight men, many were married. Now it seems like every trans woman then "comes out" as lesbian. Is there a difference?

[@melissadunton3534]

@@rendezvouzwithrama even Dylan Mulvaney just came out as a “lesbian”. Like, what!!?!! 😮

[@babyquinn1714]

Yes ! They were drag Queens !!

[@JDMK931]

They are also saying that gay men who don’t want to have sex with trans men are transphobic and bigoted and it’s so wrong. I’m gay. I don’t want to have sex with a woman, breasts or not, she isn’t a man. It’s so disgusting bc I feel for lesbians and straight men who are told they have to sleep with trans women, bc gay men are told we have to not only sleep with trans men but also the male parts of a trans woman’s body, and I AM SO OVER IT!

[@barryfoxworth8949]

The LGB founder made absolute sense!

[@talon532]

From now on it should only be LGB. Now that, I can get behind.

[@charlottewyttle1578]

We tried to be nice…what a disaster

[@TheRightFacts928]

Transphobic is no longer a derogatory term, but a compliment that we still have some ounce of common sense left.

[@halfg8641]

Yep

[@konojotaroda9109]

Too right

[@melanieperry8314]

No, phobic/ phobia means fear. I don't fear them but getting very annoyed.

[@EmilyRabjerg]

@@melanieperry8314 so true

[@dammar117]

The term "transmisia" exists.

[@raindrops21_9]

Thank goodness for Bev - what she said about the LGB being about sexual preference and the 'rest' being about identity is the first time any of this has made sense to me. As a straight woman who wants to be supportive and compassionate, trying to understand what's going on lately has been a bit of a struggle.

[@majormind1584]

Yeah it's been absolute chaos and confusion. I genuinely worry for the youth right now, biology and people's wants and desires have become totally conflated

[@Sandypetr]

​@@majormind1584 I think that's because there is a bigger agenda at play.

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

Yes. To this lesbian, she also makes complete sense. You might check out her organization and support her work. She and we all could use the support of allies. I'm sure it is very confusing to people who want to support and not harm, such as yourself. Also, if you google "gender-critical," you'll find lots of women's groups who agree with Bev. Thanks for your support.

[@majormind1584]

@@ALinn-vr3nl I can imagine, I learnt lots from her and everything she said was factual, quick Google search confirms! It's like the movement was taken out of their hands for political/pharma reasons

[@raindrops21_9]

@@ALinn-vr3nl Bless! I will definitely do so, thanks for the extra information. I find it distressing that so many people have rigid (often hate-laced) opinions without first trying to learn more about the issues involved.

[@CharlieM-t7y]

Thank you Oli! You are absolutely correct. It is the radicals who are harming children and women. The guy on the right is typical woke left. You can't have a constructive conversation without them attacking anyone who doesn't agree.

[@moeskeetz5473]

James Barr is quick to call someone transphobic when they have a different viewpoint than him.

[@kathynicholson103]

That explanation from Bev (LGB is about sexual preference, Trans, etc. is about gender identity.) was the clearest I've heard. They should not be combined. Sexual preference doesn't seem to be as destructive to people as transitioning

[@henrygingold6549]

Being gay is NOT a preference, it is a fact. Preference suggests that there is an element of choice in the matter and there isn't.

[@henrygingold6549]

@@Unknown-dh8km NO ONE would choose to be homosexual and face the derision and ill treatment that still exists today. There is NO such thing as sexual preference the the notion of it usually seeps out from the faeces lined halls of evangelicals who push their despicable conversion "therapy" which amounts to torture. As to what I base me claim on... PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and those of every other gay person I have ever met. And none of them felt the need to "transition".

[@vincentramirez8188]

Serious question, why are people allowed to “celebrate “ a sexual preference? I know it’s an outlandish comparison but someone who is attracted to animals, should their sexual preference be celebrated too? I just don’t understand why people have to accept the LGB lifestyle to “celebrate “ it and if you don’t you are a terrible person. I don’t care about anyone’s preferences you do you, just don’t flaunt it in my face and then expect others to accept the lifestyle or else you are bad.

[@derikpham3368]

@@Unknown-dh8km you clearly haven't met gay or les or bisexual in real life. I was in the class with these 2 girls back in the high school days, they're all lovey dovey whenever they're next to each other that our PE coach had to split them up to stop the boys from having weird delusions. The point here is that when I asked them if they're not into boys, one of them said "I don't think I have anything against boys, but I prefer this girl" and the other simply "I just kind of feel like boys aren't as attractive as girls, that's all". LGB people didn't choose to be les or gay or bisexual, they're born with that in mind. Everyone in the class thought they're a weird couple, but no one discriminate dor hurt them in any way, that's because that's what inclusivity means, and because they didn't force anyone to acknowledge their existence. Key takeaway: LGB people don't deny their biological sex, they're simply attracted to same sex or both, meanwhile Trans people wholeheartedly deny their biological sex with this "gender ideology". If anything, they're polar opposite in core ideal of LGB community and thus shouldn't have been included in LGB in the first place

[@kellmedd4925]

@@derikpham3368 Well, as someone whose met some of the Trans, Q+ they consider Lesbians, Gays, to be on their side, if they are not... then they must be with Trump, Neo-Nazis, or never truly gay or lesbian to begin with, they are traitors. The community will abandon them, if they defy them. They are united are they not? The mentality now is, WITH US, or AGAINST US. From what I see, gays and lesbians voice support publicly, and don't even openly defy them. I understand it's from fear as the TQIA+ has very powerful and unhinged militant "wing" to their group. They have people who would harm others, harass, and can easily find out locations. I should know, I had the honor of meeting some. So I understand why LGB are cowardly and unable to face them, something TQ+ actually say in private themselves, LGBs are cowardly. Ironic, all of it really. LGBTQIA+ is divided, yet stands united publicly, yet in private, one side dislikes it, but does nothing. The other schemes on how to squash all form of resistance and assimilate them and many other mentally ill people into the community by any means necessary. By any means necessary. And it's completely legal and endorsed, for them to destroy all opposition, by any means. Even traitors. Granted I met de facto representatives who claim to represent or at least use wording as if they speak for EVERYONE of the LGBTQIA+ community. Not to mention, unlike LGB part, at least from what I can see, if LGB are a part of any militant right wing association, they are bad. Evil if not by the media and social opinion online. Leaving them to be assumed that the LGB part are weak, timid, and unarmed. Compared to the more well armed, militant, and willing to use violent action TQIA+ militant sector. Who I know is very willing and can and would destroy traitors if they ever found out. Not physically, but I have seen "Psychological" attacks to harass, and force people into depression to the point of su**ide.

[@michaelharvest931]

Guy in pink: “There is no division in the LGBTQIA+ community” Bev (Co-Founder of LGB Alliance): “Why was T added in the first place?” Pink shirt guy: “🤬🤬🤬”

[@monk3yboy69]

Guy in pink is a comedian apparently….

[@Yeahabouthat]

@@monk3yboy69 Probably only "identifies" as a comedian. 😁

[@justleon721]

He sure was emotionally invested for someone who supposedly found the conversation "boring." I can understand getting frustrated & angry if one is *_forced_* to participate in a conversation they find pointless & boring, but then why agree to do the segment? It's not like he didn't know in advance what the topic would be. If "the community" is so united about it, why did he think his voice was even needed?

[@MrWestos]

​@@justleon721 He can't stand it that people disagree with the lmnop+ rainbow cult, which is why he was constantly trying to talk over and shut Oli down. Prize tw*t. And as for Tatchell, look into his views on children consenting to s*x with adults...

[@GODJWilly]

😂 Bro in pink identifies for sure as a comedian, cause comedians laugh at real life, and help us laugh at real life, didn’t hear a single one liner, storytime or anything. What a deepfake comedian.

[@georgehorlock]

That older woman is an absolute gem 💎

[@bruce8359]

trans....vestite easy aint it

[@pjdexter168]

She said it perfectly with no degree of hostility, something only the T community seems to offer.

[@DariusGroza]

Don't assume. As a gem 💎 myself, I'm offended, so you're gemphobic!

[@nal004]

I really wanted to hear the rest of her points

[@TerryProthero]

Even the trans person on the panel was against what trans people were doing!

[@scottmalkinson6983]

Damn. Oli made some great points. Respect+

[@tagus100]

Why get Barr back on? Douglas Murray made him completely irrelevant. You see his odious attitude here: you're one of us, until you disagree. It's all about ideological purity.

[@mjones4083]

Name me anyone on the left who isn't like that .

[@autumnangel3001]

Couldn’t agree more, he really is odious!

[@brocktoon8]

Exactly right. He is an infuriating misogynist for one thing.

[@nicnocb6677]

Douglas Murray put James straight in the box and gaffer taped him. It was hilarious

[@joshuabray37]

Darn, you beat me to it (with your comment). When James called Douglas a CIS male, oh, Douglas’s expression and response was priceless. Douglas being a proud gay man, mopped the floor with him. Douglas is a treasure.

[@WHEREAMI42]

James Barr... self-identified comedian.

[@SpikeyMikey341]

Well he is a joke 😊

[@GoldenbanjoDJ]

Brilliant

[@creativebyarmi]

here here!

[@maryannebrown2385]

@MAN Because they can’t debate facts. They immediately resort to ad hominem attacks.

[@KurenaiTenka]

I genuinely can't conceive of how this guy could ever do stand-up successful lol. Does he just say.... 'straight white men, amiright???' and they all clap like seals?

[@wiredranchvideo]

Three things: - Bev made the best point - LGB is about relationships, T+++ is about self-identity (mostly confused). - Oli is courageous in talking about his detransition and deserves kudos, not complaints from a “comedian”. - MUCH better conversation than the always-interrupting Piers would ever “moderate” (dominate). Don’t even know the interviewer’s name, but well done!

[@Raven_Fable]

Oli was never a real trans. He's a grifter

[@navdeepkumar5085]

​@@Raven_Fable and who decides real vs fake trans?

[@catwoman7462]

@@Raven_Fable There's no such thing as 'real trans' because you can't change sex.

[@frpgplayer]

LGB clearly supports Googolplexuals because it's a sexual preference. There's no confusion.

[@TheNerd-Y]

I was thinking that. I hate the way Piers interrupts to have the 'last word'

[@Lonarix1]

My brother is homeschooling his kid now because his teacher was questioning my nephew about his gender. All because he refuses to cut his hair and is now down to his shoulder.

[@verbosedy9947]

Damn Oli made some great points. He might have had a weird decade or two but he's learned from everything and is rocking it now!

[@RJALEXANDER777]

I'm more inclined to listen to him than anyone else. It's clear he's been through some real hell psychologically speaking, naturally he doesn't wish the same on anyone else.

[@GlennTaylor-zt1cb]

There is nothing to debate, a person cannot change sex, fact!

[@SexyBeautifulBabe]

Outwardly they can

[@jackhumphries6687]

​@@SexyBeautifulBabe nope

[@lorrygeewhizzbang9521]

@@SexyBeautifulBabe That still doesn't make them the opposite sex.

[@jimmelton5846]

​@@SexyBeautifulBabe you polish a turd and it's still a turd, on the outside you can look how you wish, it doesn't change anything.

[@vanavatareight5135]

​@SexyBeautifulBabe No, outwardly, they can only wear costumes. You may as well say a kid can change into a monster on Halloween.

[@tonyh8965]

100% spot on. You can’t change sex.

[@mikeparker7631]

a few decades ago we knew you couldn't be born gay either...then we were told we were crazy/hateful, etc...by many of the same people telling us the same thing here. In a few years most everyone here will be insisting this crap is totally normal.

[@peace4harmony787]

I agree 1000% +

[@Tony-bp1nr]

​@@mikeparker7631That's why we have to stick to who we are and our beliefs. We can't allow radicals and woke leftists force conformity on us. I still know for a fact that a man can't become a woman, vice versa. I also know for a fact that someone isn't born gay. It's no different than an addiction. I struggled with alcoholism in my 20s but been clean now for 15 years. But I wasn't born an alcoholic. I experimented and became addicted.

[@Notthetimeforit]

​@@mikeparker7631two totallu different things. You're either gay/bi or you're not. I'm not gay and could never be aroused by a dude. I was born this way. Same way as a gay guy, he was born with the genetic make up that makes him gay. Simple as that. Dont believe me then make yourself gay. Try it and see how successful you are. The whole trans thing is a social contagion from a few people withba genuine issue to making it cool and targeting confused and influencable children.

[@soniacha6381]

@@mikeparker7631❤🖤❤🖤

[@patriciamurtagh7998]

Thank you Bev Jackson for your voice of reason 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@TrackerNeil]

James Barr is an awe and a wonder. For all his talk of love and acceptance, he's quick to tell people they are transphobic, hateful, right-wing, blah blah. He doesn't accept any view that doesn't comport with his own.

[@benwolk6494]

He's one of the most narrow-minded and intolerant people imagineable. This interview wasn't even him at his worst.

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@benwolk6494 He has always been a simple paid stooge to create opposition, and make televised debates more hostile, simply because it gets everyone talking about it and watching the program. TISWAS !!! Turn off your television and go do something less boring instead 😜

[@dph3ams1]

Watching him get schooled by Murray was comedic gold.

[@molem348]

@@DjNikGnashers That was "Why Don't You" lol (showing my age)

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@molem348 😆

[@georgemioch8981]

“I am not going to let you get away with it” is a phrase we all need to learn and repeat it often…

[@royboy6890]

But the host did let him get away with it and allowed the other guy to spout false information about no evidence of children being targeted. It looked like she was scared of being accused of some phobias.

[@CaesarAntinous]

What Bev said about lesbians and young girls being told they "have to be a boy" is so true! Not only for women and lesbians, but I also experienced this over and over again as a bi guy who started out in the "femboy" community a few years ago when I was 18. I had loads of friends my age, boys, who constantly get told they are trans or should transition. Boys who have had their lives absolutely ruined by these people who constantly push hormones and all sorts of medical procedures on them. I have sadly even lost a friend to suicide because of the identiy issues and struggles he had within himself that only got worsened because of this bs poisoning our society and our communities. Hell, you've even got politicians and doctors going around encouraging people to transition. I myself got told over and over again that I should start taking hormones and whatnot... so since I liked wearing thigh highs and skirts and thought it looked cool/cute that OBVIOUSLY means I MUST be trans?? It absolutely is what is happening in the community and pushing this rhetoric on young boys and girls is sick and dangerous and should not be tolerated. Not to mention that the trans community is increasingly hostile towards absolutely everyone, actively promoting indoctrinating children, completely confusing them and encouraging people to make life changing changes to their bodies that could be dangerous and deterimental to their physical and mental health. Peter and James don't have a clue what they're talking about. Typical rhetoric from those types. From what I'm seeing in the community, most have started to see past this dangerous and disgusting trans rhetoric and I hope we can finally put an end to it before it claims more lives.

[@joewilliams9285]

Yes, Peter and James are Heterophobic...and also, don't recognize the experience of someone who has gone back to normal...

[@hildegardvonbingem]

Yes she spoke really well

[@aliasofanalias7448]

I've always wondered when cross dressers became trans so it's great to hear your perspective

[@ericv4189]

Well put. Putting my tinfoil hat on and speaking to the rapid growth and militarization of the TQ+/woke, I wouldn't find it surprising that this was a coordinated push by intelligence elements. Either way, I do believe more and more people feel confident in speaking out against it.

[@aliasofanalias7448]

@@ericv4189 Divide et impera

[@scarlettw01f66]

Thank you!!! Finally I’ve been saying this forever as a lesbian that they shouldn’t have added gender identity in with sexuality. Why not just give them their own group

[@rachelbassett4942]

Oli and Bev are the only 2 on the panel who understand reality x

[@Raven_Fable]

Oli is fake

[@rachelbassett4942]

@@Raven_Fable irrelevant

[@scottsound4711]

@@rachelbassett4942 Yes you are End of line ..

[@rachelbassett4942]

@@scottsound4711 thank you for your kindness

[@matthewjaredcox9753]

​@Scott Sound you are at least as irrelevant as she, if not considerably more so, which i strongly suspect. 🎉

[@manuellayburr382]

The pink shirted guy was totally intolerant. He was convinced his was the only valid opinion. There's no point in inviting such people to a discussion, they just want to interrupt and spout their own beliefs without listening to anyone else.

[@hotdog1214]

The way he tried to invalidate Oli's opinions and experiences rather than listening or countering with an argument (because there isn't one presumably), was laughable.

[@sandwichbreath0]

The one great thing about it is that he is showing the world what the so-called 'trans rights' movement is really like.

[@CF-dv5xk]

All he could do was say to Oli insulting BTS comments. Grow tf up pink shirt. It's disgusting how he behaved. He should be embarrassed.

[@milenakupiec1839]

He used emotionally charged and exaggerated language so what he was saying had effectively no meaning at all.

[@dadyarusski4594]

I was not an Ollie fan before, but he is dropping so many truth bombs! And Bev is just wonderful, and standing in her truth ⚖️☕️

[@CulEdz]

She’s not standing in her truth. She’s standing in the truth.

[@aHavenForTheLost]

That is because he has found Christ. He is standing on the rock that is truth!!❤

[@KyleLThayer]

He’s the next Milo

[@Heneling]

@@aHavenForTheLost ???

[@HolyGuacamolean]

Her truth? You mean THE truth.

[@j.watson9060]

You can't change sex, you can change yourself physically but what you are runs through you like a stick of Blackpool rock.

[@hannahdraper]

This woman has a brain, you can’t change sex no matter how much surgery you have if your a man you’ll always be a man and if your a woman you’ll always be a woman end of

[@watermelon3679]

Period u can't change ur chromosomes or pelvis structure

[@5280girlUSA]

I remember when it was just LGB. Bev has a point. That is about your sexual orientation, not an identifier. Start your own group! 😅

[@Grigeral]

If they did that, they wouldn't have everyone elses hard work to usurp.

[@NeonAspect]

@@Grigeralisn’t that the goal though? Make less people struggle and suffer to be accepted? I still don’t know whether I think the ‘T’ should be in the LGB or not but clearly the older LGB went through struggles, shouldn’t that bring out empathy?

[@Grigeral]

@@NeonAspect not when the people championing it drag that reputation through the mud with things like indoctrination of children.

[@Pidatha]

​@@NeonAspect Empathy doesn't mean i have to accept that a man can become a woman. I can have empathy for your dysphoria and still feel that mix Lumping sexual orientation and identity into a single movement is just muddying the waters and not helping anybody. LGBT acceptance is declining for the first time in decades because TQ+ ideology (men in women's spaces, women's sports) is dragging LGB down with them

[@auroravanessa221]

"LGB is about relationships. It's about love, it's about sex, it's about who you're attracted to. Are you attracted to men, are you attracted to women, or are you attracted to both? It's a very clear sexual orientation. T AND Q and all the other letter that have been added since is about identity issues. They're completely separate, and it has caused a lot of confusion. We've seen this with labour politicans who are desperately trying to avoid what a woman is. Thats quite comic but it's also caused a lot of tragedy particularly for lesbians. It's no coincidence that the LGB Alliance was founded by Kate Harris and [me, BEV], two lesbians and our CEO is a lesbian, also the chair of the board is a lesbian. It's lesbians who have suffered from the addition of T to LGB. Why is this a tragedy? Hundreds of thousands of lesbians are removing their breasts. It's no longer cool to be a lesbian. I spoke to a 19 year old who, throughout school was told "you must be a boy", because she *fell* for girls. This is the kind of homophobia that is being taught at schools, spread online, by their peers so that lesbians don't feel comfortable being lesbian anymore. This kind of homophobia is a tragedy, and the fact that it's being propagated and it calls for public inquiry. How is it possible that 10 years ago it would've been weird if youd said that men can change into woman and woman into men, and these days youre called weird or worse a transphobe if you deny. The fact is you can't change sex. Children shouldn't be taught that they can change sex, it's like teaching them that they can fly. - The co- founder of LGB Alliance, BEV Jackson" ❤👏🏻

[@smarie923]

Well said 😊

[@AidanC850]

Anyone who says "You're transphobic" You can simply reply to them with... "Yeah well You're factphohic, I guess we're not so different after all"

[@niamh18]

Well done Bev. Does he not realise the hypocrisy of trying to lambast the "trans racial" ideology when it's scientifically more realistic to identify as a different race than a gender. 😊

[@theresecosgrove930]

Well said.

[@jannyjan90]

Well said James did a himself no favours attacking Oli that way. And Peter also did himself no favours ignoring and deminishing the real rifts that are growing and have been growing for some time.

[@EKF-jo5kz]

Well it’s not more realistic to identify as another race as gender is a construct and is fluid. Race, however, is not.

[@jannyjan90]

@EKF1998 ermmm ... what??? Given the definition of race can be based on social qualities as well as physical traits I'd say that is more than possible to identify as a different race ... as well as different gender. But I think it would be more accurate to say you can change your ethnicity in the way you can change gender but not race in the same way you can't change your biological sex But in a discussion where you can change one because that's how you feel it is absurd to say you cannot change the other

[@EKF-jo5kz]

@@jannyjan90 no one in there is saying you can change your sex. That’s the point. Your sex is biological but gender is not. So one can change their gender but not their sex. Alot of people don’t understand that difference. Race and ethnicity is also complex, but I think the point they’re making is you can’t be white and identify as black if you have no black history in your lineage

[@ellajong1]

thank you Oli and Bev

[@Thenogomogo-zo3un]

Poor Oli. "please let me speak" as james was shoving words in his mouth

[@LesleyRhodes]

Yes agree

[@paigewheeler1269]

The dude in the pink has probably been told he is right and smart and unique and special his whole life…he denies any argument that isnt an echo chamber for him. He cant handle being told “no”

[@whitewhale9012]

It gives him an excuse to be resentful, and power to abuse others. Hes a shitty person.

[@thedubwhisperer2157]

The result of a generation being told "You can be/do anything", perhaps?

[@whitewhale9012]

@@thedubwhisperer2157 Yeah, I think some have misinterpreted the message. It's more 'aspire for greatness', and less 'you're a cat if you wanna be a cat' kinda deal. 😅😅😅

[@aliasofanalias7448]

​@@thedubwhisperer2157Our generation's kids are even worse, snowball effect

[@welcometothemovies9157]

Every time they show him on this show, I groan cause he thinks he knows everything

[@ellensteinbrinck6307]

As a bisexual woman who briefly thought she was nonbinary, only to realize through trauma therapy that it was because of the trauma, I agree with eliminating the T from LGB. My previous therapist goaded me into this mindset, and thank God for my new therapist, cuz she helped me rediscover who I really am. Enough is enough. Most of the "T"s just need intensive trauma therapy. The rest are who they are, but they are not a part of LGB.

[@guillermorivera9417]

As a gay man, I am disgusted on how a certain group of the alphabet soup have corrupted and perverted the movement. Leave children ALONE!! This has gone so far down the rabbit hole is no longer acceptable to me and many to even claim any type of association with them. Its absolutely disgusting.

[@dobusgirl]

Thanks for being a normal person

[@chrismack-Yakity-Yak]

AGREED!!!!!! I too am Gay and I'm disgusted by the "Alphabet Extreamists"!!!!!

[@matthewjdell]

Totally agree! I am gay and agree that transgender people have been hijacked by delusional left wing ideologues. This James whats-his-name is a disgrace

[@angeli662]

As a gay man, please DROP THE T.

[@VenusEvan_1885]

Oh yeah please drop it, LGB Sounds much more better and not confusing at all and very normal , without the T no one will be homophobic, The world will be a far better place

[@viewer409]

As a fellow gay man, I think it’s up to us to start. Or it won’t happen. From now on I’m just G (lgb)

[@VenusEvan_1885]

@@viewer409 exactly for me too , from now on it's LGB not LGBT, the Ts don't exist

[@monk3yboy69]

I’m 49 and it’s always been LGB for me. Never adopted the T. Time now for everyone to say no

[@Savssmiles]

@@viewer409 than do something! Are you going to school board meetings?

[@anreadz]

I always knew that Oli is smart and kind despite all the weird things he's done. He never raises his voice even when others are making a mockery out of him. He never showed rage and violence. I'm glad he's found his ways. It just shows that not just children but adults are also influenced and pushed into ideology that harms themselves or others.

[@Jotch-lah]

Felt so bad for him being mocked on TV about wanting to look like BTS! below the belt but he handled it well… I would’ve been devastated lol

[@izaioana]

Loved that he said what even us straight people voiced over and over about children and women. Even the fact that he admitted having struggled with his identity all his life, is really brave.

[@MrSpookyLover]

Gay fella and I've absolutely no idea who Oli is but James is a fool and is truly one of the least appealing kinds of people, I can't think of a worse hour or two of my life than going to see him. He's a rude arrogant zealot.

[@MrSpookyLover]

@@izaioana people with the kind of ideology forced into them like James don't see people as humans. They see people as labels. He made a show of himself recently 'talking to' Douglas Murray

[@MrSpookyLover]

@@izaioana sorry meant to also say totally agree re Oli. This is why we have to treat humans as individuals not be ideologues like James

[@riceracm]

2:09 This isn’t the first time I’ve seen Barr on this show. I’m shocked to find out he is a “comedian” given that I have never seen him smile, tell a joke, or display any emotion other than condescension, and “being triggered” all while also displaying a wholly unmerited arrogant confidence that befuddles the mind. 😶😂😂