Pimax Crystal Light Performance Test

Pimax Crystal Light Performance Test - RTX 4090 and 3080TI

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@jordanszoko6767 Ай бұрын

Just a thought.. the 4090 with crystals resolution of 2880x2880 is a challenge for the best GPU.. I don’t know how even a 5090 would maintain 90fps in some demanding simulators on highest settings let alone the new ultra high 4K per eye Pimax super.. looks like we need a 6090 for the newest gen VR headsets

@Zolbat Ай бұрын

the super has eye tracking though, so foveated rendering is really gonna help

@commodorejones8044 27 күн бұрын

@@Zolbat That part, the foveated rendering is there to keep performance up only in the area the eye is looking.

@tickledpinkmist Ай бұрын

Would be nice to see a comparison of the same pc, same exact settings but swapping between the gpu’s. Certainly when the 5000 series cards come out, people want to understand the kind of performance increases they can expect if they only upgrade their gpu.

@niconet84 Ай бұрын

correct. i switched from 10900k to 14900k and from 32 ddr4 to 64 ddr5, and same 3080ti. Another level. 4090 is just a plus. With that CPU (9900k 10900k you are already bottlenecked with 3080ti

@Kultivater 28 күн бұрын

I can easily tell you what that would do. You would have a significant CPU bottleneck with the 9900 k and a 4090. So significant, in fact, that you probably wouldn't see any FPS gains.

@RandomNoise Ай бұрын

Sponsored video. believe me, I have a Pimax Crystal Light, and its not as nearly as good as youtubers are presenting it.

@CaptainBiggles. Ай бұрын

I have a crystal light and it’s awesome. What’s wrong with yours?

@sabirayaz7893 Ай бұрын

@RandomNoise I have ordered one a month ago still says preparing shipment. What was your experience like? Are the visuals any good? I am already disappointed with their customer service and communication. Having buyers remorse right now.

@RandomNoise Ай бұрын

@@sabirayaz7893 yes, customer service is a joke. It's like buying from AliExpress 😀 I just hope you will receive a good unit. Visuals are ok, but there is so much motion blur when you move the head. and chromatic aberration is killing me

@RandomNoise Ай бұрын

@@CaptainBiggles. cheap plastic, uncomfortable, even with extra comfort strap, and thicker face pad. no edge to edge clarity, eye strain, motion blurriness...

@CaptainBiggles. Ай бұрын

@@RandomNoise Oh dear! I also found mine really uncomfortable to start with, and I keep meaning to buy an extra comfort strap and thicker foam but haven't got round to it, and nearly 3 months later I've got used to it so I don't notice the discomfort much anymore. Motion blurriness is definitely more of a thing at low framerates, I noticed it more at 30-45fps than at 72-90

@Kerlcat Ай бұрын

Looking forward your review on Pimax Crystal Super around CES… compare both 57ppd and 50ppd.

@greaper1878 Ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do this testing. I have the crystal light, I7, RTX 4060 TI 8GB, 64GB ram. cant run on ultra in VR.

@GigaBant Ай бұрын

Finally, there’s a review that provides an understanding of the performance of different generations of graphics cards in VR. Now, at least, i understand what i need to buy. It would be great to add tests for Cyberpunk and Star Citizen.

@Sandboxcode Ай бұрын

good idea to record with an external camera so folks can see the fps w/o the OBS (or whatever record method you utilize) - perf hit. good video

@SuperDigitalAI Ай бұрын

put V-SYNC ON ... and keep it at 72hz. Better to have a constant FPS than changing/stuttering FPS

@danielecarmona Ай бұрын

Sorry but for flight simulator 72hz are looking to little, i kept my 120hz because with 90hz i don't see any difference

@SuperDigitalAI Ай бұрын

@@danielecarmona Totally subjective, I prefer not seeing trashy image quality pixelated/blurry/low detail, etc. with no jumping stutter fps Over high FPS, I do Sim Racing, a lot more speed of things happening than Flight Sim and I don't see too much difference between 72hz/fps and 90hz/fps, and 120hz/fps it's a total waste of resources, in 2D you notice a lot more the need of fps on some RPG games, and Sim than in VR. 72 or 80 it's more than enough for most of the time. And most of all it's not about how many FPS you get, it's the CONSTANT number of FPS, that create the good illusion of smooth movement, the brain detect changes/stutter a lot more than a fixed constant number of fps vs stutter changing number of fps, stuttering ruin the experience, constant lower fps don't, remember that Cinema it's 24fps and nobody cares too much.

@danielecarmona Ай бұрын

@@SuperDigitalAI you're confusing FPS with Hz, those are different things, refresh rate is not related to FPS, "Frame rate determines how detailed an image might appear to one's eye, while refresh rate determines how smooth (the input lag) the images appear to the eye."

@SuperDigitalAI Ай бұрын

@@danielecarmona Sorry, I think that you are confused, FPS and HZ must be the same in SYNC to be effective and to have smooth motion. so, you have your headset at 72hz, the IDEAL number of frames per second to watch on that headset it is and it should be 72 fps fixed all the time, that's called Vertical Sync. If not, you will see stutter or deformed frames. That's why I told you all that before, because 90hz means that you NEED to be constant at 90FPS to watch a true real good smooth motion at 90hz. if not, you are seeing stutters, jumps, etc. VR Headsets are not Freesync, nor GSync capable.

@danielecarmona 27 күн бұрын

@AEFox if what you say it would be true then if in that game you have only 30 fps you should have 30 Hz and that's not possible, fps and Hz again are two different things and you're confusing them. This was an Nvidia explanation: FPS and Hz are often interchanged and misused in the gaming world. Hz is defined as cycles per second, and is most commonly associated with your display. They both describe a completion rate, but by different components in your PC’s rendering system. Simply put, FPS is the rate at which your system, and in particular, your GPU completes frames and Hz is the rate at which your display shows those completed frames. These rates are not the same. The GPU can complete frames faster or slower than the display can show them. This variation in frame time is caused by differences in the complexity of the 3D scene being rendered - for example, an explosion in one scene may take more time to render than the prior scene. Hz on the other hand generally a constant rate and does not vary based on scene complexity. 60Hz is 60 times per second, 144Hz is 144 times per second, and so on. There are displays that can vary their refresh rate, but as a simplification here, we'll assume a constant refresh rate display. FPS is typically a rolling average over many seconds since frame times are not consistent from frame to frame. A good way to think about FPS is: ‘how many frames, on average, does the GPU complete per second.’ When the FPS and the Hz differ, you can experience effects like tearing, but we will get into that later. At the end of the day; GPU -> FPS, Display -> Hz. For the best performance, you want both to be high.

@laubox Ай бұрын

Computer 1: I9 14900K - 4090 - 64GB Ram Computer 2: I9 9900k - 3080TI - 64 GB Ram

@Sandboxcode Ай бұрын

also good idea to test with your lower spec PC. Excellent job man

@tomc1380 Ай бұрын

@@Sandboxcode Why? The i9 9900k is already a bottleneck, even with a 3080ti, lol!

@renarddegaulle1204 29 күн бұрын

@@tomc1380 Totally correct. I recently went from an i9-9900k/3080ti to a 9800x3d 3080ti, and the difference is significant.

@tomgoehle4162 Ай бұрын

What software are you using to show the FPS in the upper lefthand corner?

@wode467 Ай бұрын

thanks for this, gonna save up for this and a 4070ti super!

@slecht Ай бұрын

don't get a 4070(ti) got slow memory bus, 3080 is just as fast because it's got a much better memory bus. So for VR get a second hand 3090 or at least a 4080/90. But better wait for the new generation.

@ryox82 Ай бұрын

@@slecht The 4090 being 2k is ridiculous with the 50 series about to drop. Makes me wonder what that cost will be.

@slecht Ай бұрын

@@ryox82 Yea true, mb look for a second hand 3090, fair bit faster then a 4070Ti for VR!

@wode467 Ай бұрын

@@slecht okay ill hold out then ty

@racingsfun Ай бұрын

We need a 6090 ti video card

@jamiesalmonsculpture8599 27 күн бұрын

Pimax desperately using KZbinrs to try to convince consumers all is well with their products. It's not though is it Pimax ? The games up for you, everyone knows your tactics now. Last chance, make drastic improvements or you're finished soon.

@Thrawn655 Ай бұрын

I do not understand why you would change graphics setting between the two setups. It would have been super helpful to see the performances difference at same graphics settings....

@xx55335533 Ай бұрын

Is it only for the light what is with the normal crystal...

@YourLovelyJesus Ай бұрын

Thinking in doing a AMD performance test?

@tomc1380 Ай бұрын

I upgraded my PC 2 years ago from i9 9900k/rtx3090/z390mb/32Gb 3000 ram to a i9 13900k/rtx4090/z790mb/32Gb 6400 ram and got at least a 50% fps improvement with msfs2020 in VR. Hopefully this will do me for another 2-3 years. I normally like to skip nvidia series updates, so maybe the rtx6090 with the then latest mb and CPU.

@vracan Ай бұрын

in vr what counts more is stutters/microstutters not how high fps goes. Any small change in fps (even 1fps) will cause a stutter. If you were at a very low but rock solid fps there would be no stutter. Your fps is all over the place so you must have stutters everywhere.. You made no mention of smoothness.

@David-c5l 29 күн бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking while watching the video. My experience with the Crystal light is I can't stand the stuttering and microstutters. Sure I could play it as it, but it drives me crazy when considering I'm running a Ryzen 7 9800X3D with a 4090 and it stutters like hell. I've gone back to my G2 which just plain works period.

@vracan 29 күн бұрын

@@David-c5l I simply cannot play in VR with stutters. so unfortunatley I go down on resolution and other tweaks so I get stable non-stuttering fps. It sucks but I aint going back to 2D no way

@michaelwilkinson1985 28 күн бұрын

@David-c5l hey, I found the same issue on Pimax CL in DCS. Try the 'Lock to half frame rate' setting and '90hz upscaled' setting. You're locked to 45 frames, but it stays there. Counterintuitively it runs smooth as glass. I'm a photographer - I pixel peep and I'm a frame wh*re, but it feels like 90fps and you can really push the quality settings. I'm running an i7-13700k and 4080 super, 32gb RAM, so you'll be able to push the quality settings even more than me. The game looks beautifully sharp and smooth, even on multiplayer. Let me know how you get on 🤙🏼.

@David-c5l 27 күн бұрын

@@michaelwilkinson1985 appreciate the tips! I’ve not had a chance to try those settings yet, but hope to today. I’ll let you know!

@David-c5l 27 күн бұрын

@@michaelwilkinson1985 Michael, you fixed the problem! Those two things solved the stuttering issue--incredible. Been struggling with this since October--can't thank you enough!

@justinowdfart8155 20 күн бұрын

I dont believe any of this. My Crystal Light doesnt even detect the display port on my 4090. Its F**king rubbish.

@romans6696 25 күн бұрын

Beware of anyone who says that they are happy with any fps lower than the refresh rate of the headset. It will always cause stutter which will ruin your vr experience. 60fps is incredible and fantastic?? ok...Definitely a stutterfest..Very misleading overview