Dead ECM Blower Motor in Goodman Air Handler Replaced with Traditional 1/2 HP 1075 RPM Blower Motor

[@MrPisces215]

I love how you go to cut the shaft off the motor and you talk about how you need protection and sippy says “do I need protection” and proceeds to jump back ten feet. LOL That was classic. Also he rolled up his pants to show off his legs to get all the ladies.

[@dongordon2334]

ive got to admit..mike your videos are the highlight of my day..ac vids plus knowledge plus humor ..love it keep up the good work

[@johnnygore7175]

I’m here in south east Texas and enjoy watching a fellow hvac owner working his butt off to make things work with this equipment that is made these days. The manufacturers use us as guinea pigs to see what works and what don’t. In my opinion they have sacrificed longevity for efficiency! I’ve had to do the same as you before to keep customers going. I’ve also used the x1 quick swap as well with a Psc motor and had good success. Thanks for the video keep up the good work!

[@chatrkat]

Enjoyed watching this repair. I would have opted for the exact same resolution. The conversation between you two guys is hysterical at points. 😂

[@terranhightower341]

Found your channel a few days ago, have been watching non-stop since. I love that you upload everyday and keep it raw and uncut. I worked with my father from age 11-18 during the summers in Texas. I have "30 years" experience of fixing friends' AC's (electrical issues). I could run rings around Godzilla and SippyCup at age 18. My dad showed me that this was not the career path I wanted as it wore him out and broke him down as being the sole person in his company. I have a sit down desk job, but got tired of not getting my hands dirty. I decided to go to school online for my HVACR diploma. they advertised in as little as 4 months you could graduate. I had it done in 4 weeks and a GPA of 4.0. Waiting to pay it off (1-2 month left) before they send me my diploma and certificate to go take my EPA 608. This way I can work on the refrigeration side of the equation too if only to help friends and family out. I can also fall back on this path if I have too.

[@megademetriose]

Couldn’t you have used a contactor as a relay for the high voltage going to the motor and hooked a common and green from the thermostat to the 24 volt side that way whenever there’s a call for g it will send power through the contactor and turn the motor on. What do you think ?

[@jimmyp5487]

Thought the same

[@wayne5607]

That's what Steve Lav did!

[@xNYCMarc]

I was just gong to say the same thing.

[@eddiew.6485]

Well done, Mike......A nice, cost-effective solution that keeps the Client happy!

[@agostinodibella9939]

Great workaround to keep the customer cool!

[@mph5896]

Expensive place on the water and a Goodman air handler. Sounds about right.

[@dmvitt]

@@PipeDoctor Good enough for that neighborhood.

[@douglaschristian4353]

So glad SippyCup returned! I was a little depressed today about his giving up. Have a fantastic rest of your week, sir! Doug

[@fervas]

you both make the show better.. good to see him back!!!

[@GG-sy8ic]

I did one of those fans yesterday in a nice toasty attic in Old Westbury yesterday. Retirement needs to get here quickly!😜

[@brendand1325]

Curious. After , I presume, decades of HVAC work, what are your financial plans to stop work and retire?? I believe people have no clue about the numbers needed to retire.

[@paulrozinski1488]

Would you consider taking a 28VAC tap off the control board, connecting it to the coil of a 2 pole contractor in the air handler ( using it as a switching relay) to switch the fan on/ off ?? 🤔

[@Explore531]

you know what ? your more fun watching you then the other videos on working on AC units and Central Air systems you do such a great job

[@brendand1325]

Yep, I can't stand that Lavimoniere guy's videos.

[@Explore531]

@@brendand1325 yeah thats the video I been watching lol not good with his dog

[@adeptheatingair]

Sippy is like the nurse in the operating room that hands the Dr all his tools

[@The1roygbiv]

Except that those nurses are highly trained and DONOT sit down on the job! (caps for emphasis not yelling!)

[@MindzEnt]

Nurse is a career in itself, being a gopher is not.

[@The1roygbiv]

@@MindzEnt Damn right you are!

[@Demy26]

Can never leave house without the Sippy Cup.

[@920HVAC]

🤣

[@Thebeachtrader]

😆

[@williambreidenbach7255]

That was pretty impressive how you just man handled that old ECM motor off the squirrel cage. Hell yeah

[@jefferygrady3181]

Great video 💯 percent you were using your head to solve the blower motor problem! Sippy cups was entertaining being juvinile and driving you crazy! He needs to understand the opertunity he has and learn everything that he can! Knowledge is something no one can ever take away from you!

[@xheiser]

5:30 90 degree attachment tool is nice in that situation. love the vids keep pumpin

[@mjalco7410]

Nice job Mikey as usual Living on the edge for the customer✌️

[@frankchinigo907]

Glad you are back Sippy.Now hang in there go to trade school learn all the theory and practical you can and you'll never be sorry.Go for it.

[@MariosACandRefrigeration]

you left us speechless with this one lol.welcome back sippy.

[@thomasalbert8605]

The return of Sippy cup. Way to think out of the box and get the unit running.

[@raymondjacobs8429]

Mikey, could you use a Condenser contactor for the fan?

[@gulfmex1]

Sippy has potential, Mike it seems like things are starting to click with him. Keep teaching him.

[@luvmybeemer]

Damn Mike, I wish I hadn’t moved from NY, I’d apply in a minute. I did almost 33 years with my previous outfit. I’m sure you’d be happy with a guy like me who wants to learn and would be loyal, on time and responsible.

[@luvmybeemer]

@@PipeDoctor Sorry, I couldn’t if I wanted to move back. But if I had stayed, I’d definitely hit you up, I like your style and videos. I worked with many trades over the years and learned quite a bit just by watching them work. IBEW comes to mind right away because I worked with those local 3 guys more than anyone else. Good luck finding the right guy. BTW, I know why you lost Kelvin, but what about Godzilla, why did he leave??

[@Matts_Crafty]

Good video I know a lot of companies that would say sorry cant fix it lol... Good Stuff!!!

[@theduffster2581]

So In the heat mode it will have to run continuously as well ?

[@Reformed_Wolf]

My son works for me and it's exactly like this!

[@milanlipovic7349]

If sippy rolls up his sleeves he needs to get his hands dirty. Ugh I am jealous of sippy

[@glennhandley3567]

great video i would have never thought of replacing and ecm motor with a traditional motor. so the module wires from the board are just left disconnect and not used, that's why the blower will run 24/7?

[@Austin23191]

Loved the video today Mike.

[@rogerf3622]

Love your videos. In case you weren’t aware, those typical x-13 motors are available everywhere today even Amazon for around $250. Those are Genteq motors and sold under various names with Evergreen being the most popular. Yes it may be true the speed may not match exactly but it doesn’t have to. If you’re that concerned, you have 5 taps so you could select a speed that is closest to what is needed. You could also reprogram these motors very easily as others have indicated if you wanted to match the exact speed. But in its unlikely you would need to change anything. The tap speeds are usually very close to original equipment. There are several problems with a continual run/constant speed motor. One is when the Condenser shuts off, the continual air flowing over the evap will throw lots of humidity into the building air. You will likely smell it for about 5 minutes or so. The second issue is if this is a heat pump/heat strips, the heat strips require a faster speed than the air conditioner. You run a risk of the strips overheating. Just a thought.

[@roberts1159]

Good points about the humidity level from the fan running 24/7 and odor. Didn’t think about the heat strips if this was a heat pump. So the $250 price from Amazon is the fan motor only and Ecm module that connects to motor must be purchased separately I assume. Personally would not want a 24/7 fan in my home.

[@rogerf3622]

No its the whole motor complete with ECM module. The OEM prices for the same thing are ridiculous and upwards of $700 or more. Most supply houses offer the Evergreen motors but there is usually a markup of $100 or so over the $250. Another thing to consider is when an ECM X-13 motor fails, it may just be one of the speed taps usually #2. If you switch that wire to another tap, it may run the motor and at a little higher speed. This is useful in that you can get a customer immediately working while you wait for a replacement.

[@roberts1159]

@@rogerf3622 Thanks for your reply. I have an old Trane air handler with gas heat and split system cooling that’s about 18 years old with an ECM motor. Good to hear there are cheaper fixes rather than OEM route.

[@BartlettTFD]

Another enjoyable video! Sippycup makes it just so humorous👍

[@sare383]

Happy you found sippy cup! And gave him a second chance.

[@Jon-hx7pe]

would evergreen univeral vs have worked?

[@daddygc5814]

Damn great looking service truck how much was it,good job

[@daddygc5814]

I surely know that,rich boy

[@GunpowderMechanical]

Thank goodness for Goodman

[@stcharleshometheater]

I just subscribed here and love the content, have you posted any attic furnace /air handler and ductwork installations?

[@lhr1701]

Sippy asked if he needed protection . I think his parents should have used some protection 18-19 years ago. Anyway I would have did what you did if I was the homeowner and had to wait 6 weeks . It's called making it happen . Keep up the good work .

[@archwhitemage]

I always wondered if anyone makes a puller or use a slide hammer for a stuck shaft on a overheated motor if not hvac/r specific maybe something automotive

[@ivancamacho7670]

Glad to see Him (Sippy cup) come back he a kid that starting life out fresh outta HS.... I know i wasnt super reliable at 17,18... Hopefully he see's the Value in HVAC.... I would definitely apply i got 2 yrs experience. Sadly i Iive in California hahaha.

[@brendand1325]

Near San Diego North County ? Great almost-free HVAC program @ Palomar College.

[@ivancamacho7670]

@@brendand1325 Hey thanks for the offer i unfortunately had to pay 9 k for my schooling

[@ivancamacho7670]

@@brendand1325 And in from Oxnard California but currently live in Bakersfield Ca

[@jonayres65]

I want a hat, L/XL but I don't see them in your merchandise

[@pjkillaastudlovin]

Great Video, ive done this many times to get my customers by

[@markdemay2177]

Sippy is a cartoon! You need a tech that wants to learn! At least let him get his hands in there!

[@MKETechnicAL]

I know I’m not the only one who heard Mikey pipes almost shit himself at 19:07 🤣🤣🤣 great install the love the channel!

[@throttlebottle5906]

a decent solution would have been adding a fan relay that has normally open and normally closed contacts, use green from t-stat to turn relay on and (N/O) contacts to run blower on higher speed, then with relay off the (N/C) contact feeding lowest blower speed for continuous air circulation.

[@yz250a]

Face it Ethan: Mikey NEEDS you! (like a hole in the head) LOL! But seriously, you're not too young for responsibility. Glad he gave you another chance. Thanks Mikey!

[@smacleod69]

Is the home owner ok with the rise in humidity in the house with the fan running 24/7?

[@jcforward741]

You’re nicer than me 😂 I don’t usually offer a control. Just leave it 24/7 until the new comes in. Those freakin Goodman ecm blower motors though 😬… they ain’t cheap! Or made good lol

[@matteberry58]

"Do I need any protecting?". You either laugh or groan when he speaks!

[@yz250a]

If he doesn't want child support payments while in college, YES!

[@johnstran]

Sippy cup is a boomerang, you toss him and he comes right back.😉

[@patrickhemken5722]

The UV light is always on, doesn't it sense air movement then turn on?

[@mattpsa]

I'm confused.. What happened to no call no show?

[@JBotAlan]

Truly glad my boss was lenient with me when I was a sippy cup. Glad to see him back.

[@waynemiles7027]

Was that a X13 motor!

[@stevewarren3051]

Why are there plenty of Goodman ECM blowers on Ebay but, the supply house is back-ordered 6 weeks?

[@stevewarren3051]

@@PipeDoctor No, new. Since the customer had to pay for a new PCM motor AND a new replacement supply house motor, you could have offered to get a new or, used even, Geneteq ECM motor on Ebay for less than the cost for both motors.

[@stevewarren3051]

@@PipeDoctor OPM. Not your problem.

[@chrismuniz8515]

You make me want to buy a grinder .. do you always cut the shaft off . It's easier eh?

[@drewfrizzlexd2273]

Hey, I'm happy to see he hasn't thrown in the towel after all.

[@jkbrown5496]

Downside of a continuous blower is the condensate on the coil when the the cooling satisfies is picked up by the airflow limiting dehumidification of the space.

[@drakbar5957]

UV light & a constant blower = protection from Sippy Cup’s flatulence. You da man, Mikey!

[@JjMn1000]

Cool video

[@pubchat2913]

Great vid man and nice work

[@kranch173]

I understand the motor isnt available, but what about the Motor Module alone? ohm the motor and if all 3 legs are the same, motor is good and get Module.

[@ochykysh]

Probably it would cost more to rebuild than to buy new. Also the bearing might be going bad or smth else that has caused the board failure is still present. Bundle that with the fact that you have to give some kind of warranty on the repair...

[@alanmaroney8395]

seperate module is not available from goodman yet. It's happening soon but not yet

[@bkoz319]

block em like stevie lav mama.....oh mama next level

[@shapedstones]

General Aire makes a current sensing relay that would be good for this application too. Look it up there are two, GA51 and GA50. One is for 24 volts to like a humidifier application and another is 120v. I'm sure there might be one for 240v.

[@ephraimsilberberg708]

I was waiting for the relay wiring.

[@adeptheatingair]

I don't think he needed it because the blower needed to operate 24/7 due to the UV bar.

[@chulo7270]

Don’t know if I misunderstood but you said the blower runs 24/7 if there’s a UV light? That would bring humidity into the home from the coil and pan when compressor is off. Shouldn’t it be that if the light is in the duct, it only comes on when the compressor is on and if the light is in the return at the coil, then that light stays on all the time but either way the blower cycles normally?

[@chulo7270]

*Correction, (If the light is in the duct, it should only come on when the blower is on)*

[@joehomanick]

Glad sippy cup is back . Hey mike maybe we can get Ethan to remove the covers on the next job ??? Simple 1st step for him and not much can go wrong . He might enjoy getting in there getting his hands dirty and trying something. Maybe have him practice on some old takeout equipment that you have at the shop ?? He can get use to the impact not to scratch or over tighten the covers . Just a thought and some content 💯👍

[@bkoz319]

ITS ME! SIPPY CUP! Actually i like this guy......and his nickname

[@chrisc9389]

great video! where did Sippy come from? I assume he is a family friends kid and you are just trying to help out to keep him busy for the summer? I wish you were in NJ would love to come out with you and learn HVAC and would do it for free!!

[@wezzyfbabyde]

Honestly Mike I would make 100 times better apprentice then Sippy cups when are you going to put me on I would really like to work with you bro you’re an awesome tech keep me in mind my man

[@Bob-nf3fy]

Those shaft set screws are taken off & on nice w a ratcheting refrigeration service wrench. I never see any1 use them

[@robertwood9628]

After 45 years in hvac I can honestly say I am more than happy to be retired. I watch these vlogs and shake my head. That kid is a liability and I would have run his ass off the job the day.

[@Aepek]

9:51 What type of gloves are those you are wearing Mike, they look pretty nice 👍🏻 Loving the videos😊

[@Aepek]

@@PipeDoctor appreciate the reply & letting me know. Have a good one ✌🏻

[@vaccumme]

Sippy Cup lives in a nice House !!

[@Chris2745100]

What is the purpose of the UV light? Never heard of it being installed in a HVAC system.

[@DutchZX7KaWa]

It sterilizes viruses and bacteria. It can also affect fertility in a negative way, so make sure everything is turned off when working in proximity.

[@Jon-hx7pe]

just wait for complaints that it's not dehumidifying properly any more due to the constant fan operation and that the electric bill is high.

[@rogerghiardi7723]

Genteq makes a rescue ECM motor

[@christophermiller1520]

Nice job bro just throw a psc for the time and good to go

[@STXVIEC]

Sippy cup and godzilla are my favourite. I hope he comes back one day

[@brendand1325]

Maybe Godzilla could do a 'guest appearance' one day if he gets a day off at his regular job.

[@williamwiseman5083]

Great video

[@dalekronk496]

Would have loved to see what wires you used

[@nestorrivera2838]

Sippy cup is back!!

[@danpresson]

I have a blower wheel puller that works great with

[@onenikkione]

all Hail Sir Sippy

[@danobrien3109]

It’s often just the end cap on ECM-blowers that go. The motors are really very durable. I have only replaced two complete motors in the last five years. You should pick up a motor tester. 🇨🇦👍

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

some techs take it that far. some of us replace both to tie up loose ends.

[@vegaslowblower8781]

most ive changed they wont sell cap alone

[@REDDOGLewiston61]

Good job! That was cool!

[@tonydelgrego2906]

Another great video

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

Surprised a universal fit ECM Motor wouldn’t work. Definitely the cheapest way to get airflow, until proper motor can be installed. Is all the rust from Ocean Air? How much outside air being brought in? Glad to see Sippy Cup. Thanks for the videos.

[@Paulie1232]

Mikey you could have save yourself so much time, you should have just added a Mainstream Engineering - QT6104. Stock one on the truck and your covered 100% on your ECM motor calls....

[@johnshields2176]

@@PipeDoctor I. Agree Mikey Pipes . Add a 90-340 relay and move on. Ha!

[@Jeasleyhvac]

You could add a double pole relay or contactor and energize it off a call for fan from the tstat to have control over the blower. But it is best to have the fan running 24/7 with indoor air quality products like Uv lights

[@andrewc5153]

They have rescue ecm motors available… might wanna check them out. Since it seems like every fan motor is going ecm now

[@trumpsupporter3576]

Sippy cup looks like Lumpy Adams. From the Adams Family movie. 👀

[@mohammedelsayed2889]

you should get yourself a Milwaukee cordless ratchet, works great for tight spaces

[@robstidham8754]

LOL! Too much! You can’t get rid of this guy! He’s the highlight of the videos now!

[@royheinrich123]

Hezzzzzzz Back!

[@Papi4l2]

Sippys back? SUBSCRIBED!

[@JohnR9965]

I knew it. Lol. He is baaaack

[@stevedentremont3037]

I new he would be back good for him

[@props-model-shop]

Like a bad penny, but UTubies love him