Pixar's BEST Love Story Has Some DUMB Controversy

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[@hybridvenom9]

I already know what the ad is before it even happens I'm ok with that

[@zachwhittaker1896]

Are you going to play Armor Core 6 when it comes out in August

[@brandonscott5544]

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[@maurisa514]

Can you review tear along the dotted line?

[@s.c.594]

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[@ryn3872]

Ellie would ABSOLUTELY root for Carl to start a new adventure after her passing. It could never tarnish what they had and the love he still holds for her.

[@damonlam9145]

Plus one of the people behind this short made it very clear that no one will ever replace Ellie for Carl, he is doing this to pay respect to Ellie.

[@ryn3872]

@@damonlam9145 That’s awesome, I’m looking forward to seeing it!

[@TubezThe1]

If anything, not going out to continue adventuring anymore? THAT would tarnish her memory imo

[@СарраКарагозян]

Agreed! She loved him so much and wanted him to be happy.

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

I mean she literally tells him so in the movie. "Thanks for the great adventure. Now go have a new one"

[@nathanblackburn1193]

I think too many people have this mentality of "the one" or "soulmates" or however you want to think of it, where there's this one singular perfect relationship for someone and that any previous relationships that failed or ended simply weren't "the one"

[@Joeeyyyyy]

That and that those relationships were tiny and pointless in comparison. As if those people you built literal bonds with were worthless. Unless they were a bad person or it was overall a bad relationship, I could never understand this.

[@artperson7617]

Personally I can’t imagine that there’s one specific person who’s made for another person. Everyone can love each other and have a relationship that works, but the one isn’t the one because destiny said so and it’s written in the stars, the one is the one because they were the one you chose

[@planteruines5619]

the one is the one you choose

[@CLDJ227]

​@@planteruines5619and the one who chooses you I suppose 🤔.

[@MickeyMouse-lm6zj]

he's so old he may as well live his final years remembering ellie

[@mmmahh9056]

You dont see many animated movies with an elderly protagonist and its all the more reason to love UP even more

[@hybridvenom9]

You probably does not look like that right now or is for a file looks different than you actually does or just someone else that's passed away rip

[@Slippyjerry]

@@hybridvenom9what did this even mean

[@Walnarut]

@@hybridvenom9 what

[@cca9961]

@@hybridvenom9 words are supposed to make sense

[@chloeholmes4641]

​​​@@hybridvenom9you trying to sound southern or something?

[@Jack_Saint_Archive]

I am surprised that people didn't realize the message of UP. Carl moving on and finding love makes sense. It is about moving on with life and continuing your life.

[@JessicaRainey970]

A lot of people don't care about the actual message of the movies they watch. They 'get the feels' about something in it - in this case, the prologue of Up - and their personality revolves around that feeling, like the moon around the Earth. And since they have no deeper feelings about the matter, nor anything more substantial in their life that they feel devoted to, that feeling is something they will protect with aggression. Even - no, especially - against better judgment. That, or someone who felt that way told them to have this opinion about Carl's Date, and they lacked the self determination to say "no, I don't feel this way at all".

[@randomdaydreamer9970]

It's because they only watched the prologue

[@MickeyMouse-lm6zj]

he's so old he may as well live his final years remembering ellie

[@mattphillips3537]

@@JessicaRainey970often in Disney movies the scene that becomes the most iconic is one that goes against the message. That’s what they get for trying to make you feel what the characters are feeling.

[@aletanook]

Wait, that was why people hate it? I mean, I don't like it, but not for that reason. It just felt more childish compared to the original film.

[@rina123456]

I've always seen the "baby" part of the scene a little differently. The babies in the clouds was Ellie telling Carl she's pregnant, but she ends up learning she miscarried in the hospital scene. It just makes more sense to me for it to have happened this way with them setting up the nursery (instead of "jumping the gun") and having never adopted (the trauma and loss of miscarriage never goes away for some women, believe me I know this personally). You can miscarry sometimes without know it (I did). Sometimes it's going to a check up and getting "We can't find a heartbeat" from the doctor. I feel like that's what happened to Carl and Ellie in that scene. But this could also just be my own experiences colouring the scene. I'll see myself out 😅

[@szafirowysmok680]

I think that you are right about hospital scene. I probably have 10 years, when i see this movie first time. But in this time i think about this. I only interpret clouds, in the different way. Carl is the one, who see child first, and they start talk/see them. For me it's the moment, when they start trying. (I don't write nothing more personal to you, because i don't know, how you feel with this all...)

[@commonsense9558]

I heard from Reddit that Ellie's miscarriage and infertility it due to lead paint from the house. Copy and paste information below. "Prior to 1940 around 87% of homes used lead based paint Lead exposure can cause reproductive problems in human reproductive systems by messing with hormones. By playing in a home built prior to 1940 that was clearly in disrepair and then remodeling that home themselves both Ellie and Carl were likely exposed to a significant amount of lead dust and paint particles containing lead. Sadly, that acute lead exposure rendered Ellie infertile."

[@jauxro]

Oooh that would make sense. I've got nothing to support it, but I think they would have adopted otherwise

[@ShadowSorel]

people are mad that the protagonist from the movie about acceptance and moving on from loss is accepting and moving on from loss

[@sugarcandykiddycat1986]

Ellie will always be in his heart... So it's not like he'll ever forget her. You're right though.

[@ShadowSorel]

@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 he’s not forgetting ellie, he’s just accepting she’s dead and moving on.

[@emeneensj445]

thats fine but hes literally getting a new girlfriend. like if he got a new house or changed something idk thats fine but its literally betrayal. carl and ellies only connection is like being together, its not like they are actual family. so hes basically severing the only connection they have but idk its stupid

[@itsjayh]

​@@emeneensj445 its not betrayel hes just accepting shes dead Let the man be happy and live life

[@banan9432]

He already accomplished that by the end of the movie tho.

[@morinomajou]

A lot of responses seem to be along the lines of 'the problem is the idea that you have to be in a relationship to be happy', and I agree that that's a problem in our society; but at the same time, going on one date doesn't automatically equate to being in a serious relationship. There's no telling if Carl will ever remarry, or do anything beyond meeting people for dinner sometimes, but the point is that his mental health has recovered enough for him to feel like trying!

[@Cheezbuckets]

Sometimes, for some people in some parts of their life, going on dates is just a part of having a social life. Doesn’t mean they’re desperate for romance or they feel a deep, emotional connection with the people they go on dates with, it’s just a part of going out and meeting new people and forging connections and having fun for them. Not everyone wants to go out and hang out with groups of friends or just hang out with the same handful of people you’re already comfortable with all the time, sometimes it’s just part of socializing to go out to dinner or coffee or a movie with someone you think is cute and enjoy flirting with. Even if Carl isn’t going to make a habit out of doing that, making a personal connection with someone on a one-on-one level is pretty in character for someone who we’ve seen since he was a child is somewhat shy and probably doesn’t enjoy large social groups, so going on a date is just evidence of him becoming more socially active while staying on a level he’s comfortable with.

[@buchelaruzit]

oh i hadn't even thought of that! i'm aromantic myself and i absolutely agree with that and how amatonormativity really sucks, but that's not necessarily what's happening here at all. i say 'not necessarily' bc i haven't seen this sequel/series (?) so i wouldn't know if it's implied in this case in particular

[@morinomajou]

@buchelaruzit Yeah! I’m aroace as well, and the vibe I got from it was that, since Carl’s prior romantic history consisted of one extremely serious relationship that developed from a childhood friendship, he probably never had the chance to try going on a casual date before. So the romantic aspect isn’t really the point, so much as him seeking new experiences, and I feel like Ellie would thoroughly approve of that!

[@randompromises1038]

Ayyy fellow aro people who get it. Romance is so engrained in us subconsciously that for years we often feel like we HAVE to be in a relationship to be happy. When I told my mother every time I envisioned my future I didn't see anyone else in it, she called it sad. But, why do I need to be married with kids to have a happy future? The life I fantasize about seems pretty damn happy to me.

[@ReaIHuman]

My only question is, why wouldn't these people want this man to be happy?

[@lokkomotive8153]

Because he is dead

[@KennethRaven4lyfeGraves]

Because people have it in their head that you only have one true love.

[@hybridvenom9]

Because he would die in a house with his dog or not I'm not seeing the short

[@tryme9740]

People don't want the poor man to move on. They believe that Carl would forget about his wife and move on which probably isn't the case

[@leothelionstar4809]

It’s because they aren’t thinking about him as a person but as a character, they loved his love story, to them that was the best part of the movie and they don’t want it to change. People in fandoms often want only what they want and don’t think about what’s best for the characters they love.

[@tammywhitson4164]

Heres what people don't get: This is what Ellie would have wanted for Carl. A brand new adventure. It doesn't change Carl's love for Ellie any. He will always love her.

[@jojothebard6687]

Rest In Peace, Ed Asner (1919-2021). You were the perfect Santa, a morally conflicted captain, a city editor, and of course, the perfect grandpa.

[@asterianne2977]

Funny considering, Who voiced as Carl now after Ed died?

[@sonicfanboy3375]

​@@asterianne2977The dialogue was recorded before he died

[@asterianne2977]

@@sonicfanboy3375 Ohhh.. ty anyways

[@jira6423]

102 years damn that’s pretty good

[@jordanwright2072]

@@jira6423 Actually 92

[@onebizarreme2341]

This makes me think of my grandfather, he and my grandmother were together until the day she passed. He withdrew for a while (as was expected) and we tried to be there for him, but he needed a companion. As he started getting into the world again he actually met someone new and remarried in his 80's. She is wonderful and I'm beyond happy for them both.

[@_The_Archive_]

Fun Fact: For Up, Co-Director Bob Peterson based Dug's voice on how he'd tend to speak to his own dogs.

[@grecia3146]

As someone with family members who lost their parther I love this. Everyone deserves to find love after losing one if they wish to.

[@archibald_dw]

To be honest, the idea of there being controversy around a widowed character dating again is just baffling to me. And I've never understood the idea that "true love" can only happen once. Sometimes, marriages don't work out. Other times, one partner dies. And both of these are sad & take time to adjust to, especially the latter. But that doesn't mean you can never love again. It's also possible to love multiple people romantically, & falling in love again after being widowed does not mean you love your late partner any less.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Didn't Hotel Transyvlanvia do the "true love happens more than once in a lifetime" thing???

[@despinasgarden.4100]

@@DrawciaGleam02 Yeah, tough, most people HATED it because of the whole "You only find your true love once in life" thing in the first movie.

[@genericname2747]

@@DrawciaGleam02 Yes, but it was stupid because the movies lore established that you only zing once

[@masterace9543]

But Dracula zinged again in like the 3rd movie, so that rule feels irrelevant 😅

[@Scarshadow666]

Yeah, it baffles me too. Like people either didn't grow up with parents having the "just because there's someone else in my life I care about (like a new baby/pet/SO/close friend) doesn't mean I love you less" kind of conversations. Or they still mentally live in the 1900's, when most widows remarrying was more scrutinized than it is now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Septic-Hearts]

I didn't even realise this would be a controversy tbh. I get that there's an argument that he doesn't need a relationship to be happy again and then there's the bitter side where people could argue he's just replacing who he lost but I don't think either of those are the case. He's putting himself out there, he's socialising, he's connecting, a big step in pushing through grief and loss is being around other people again. It's making friends, maintaining relationships, and finding joy in making the most of what you have left. It doesn't matter if this develops into a serious thing or not, what's important is that he doesn't keep isolating himself in the miserable way he had after Ellie died. Pixar didn't forget or minimise her, they're showing how Carl can grow now that she's gone.

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

This is something I've gone through, after graduating high school and losing basically all of my friends, having to start over all alone at college. I isolated myself for nearly two years. It wasn't until late sophomore year/early Junior year that I started making friends again. I still miss a lot of my old friends, but I'm glad I found new ones.

[@HaysterTheOtaku]

My grandma passed away recently but when watching this It struck a cord with me because it reminded me of her final months here on earth. My grandma, my moms mother, had already divorced my moms dad, my grandpa by the time he had passed when I was around two or three, I’m 24 now and she left us less then a week ago but from what I’ve been told by both my mother and my grandma herself they didn't divorce because they were no longer in love but because the just weren’t functional together as a married couple living together in fact both of them were still really in love and my grandma missed him dearly long after he passed but what I’m getting at is the last year or so that my grandma has spend alive in the nursing home she had a boyfriend, that’s right she was dating another elderly man in the nursing home and my family and I know this because we visited her all the time as the home was only twenty minutes away from us and she would talk about him all the time I even got to meet him a a couple times and she would go on and on about how much of a gentle man he was and how well he treated her anyway this whole video reminded me of that because even though she still loved my grandpa she spend her last moments still so full of life she was just that kind of woman but she was always looking forward to eventually seeming grandpa again moving on doesn’t mean tossing those memories of your loved one aside as if they’re now insignificant it’s simply allowing yourself to make room for the other joys life still has to offer you it doesn’t mean you can’t still carry your loved ones with you in your heart it simply means you allow yourself to make room for both

[@ILurk83]

I relate to this. My grand grandpa, I call him Pop, and my great grandma, Mam were together since they were 15. Mam passed away 22 years ago- she was 70. I know Pop missed her a ton, but about 15 years ago he started dating again- he made the mistake of marrying his rebound so that didn't end well, but old man's got game. He got out there and has had many partners since- he even gave my dad (his grandson) advice on how to get over his divorce, talking about how he can still try again after a lifetime marriage then he can try again after a 20 year marriage. He's had a new steady girlfriend (she calls herself his ladyfriend) for the last few years in the assisted living facility he's in and the whole family is happy he's happy. I like seeing Carl as it reminds me of my own loved ones but also makes me feel more at peace with my own future. People in real life can be like Carl, they can be like Pop. I think that's a beautiful thing.

[@coolboss999]

What a run-on sentence.

[@OrangeJulius_JMC]

5:42 i didn't see this as "jumping the gun" and infertility. I saw it more as Ellie telling him that she is pregnant, them preparing for the baby, then having a miscarriage.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I was surprised by his analysis, since I thought everyone else read it the way you described. I certainly did

[@chloenieuwsma4846]

It makes sense why she seemed so sad. I'm just puzzled why Ellie and Carl didn't consider adoption

[@OrangeJulius_JMC]

@@chloenieuwsma4846 true

[@annagtace]

​@@chloenieuwsma4846probably because the movie wouldve played out much diferently

[@randompromises1038]

@@chloenieuwsma4846 as an adopted kid, the process is very lengthy and pricey, and they'd also need to be approved to adopt in the first place which is also a lengthy process as well.

[@ViridianCrisis7]

My grandma remarried after losing someone from almost 60 years of marriage and, while it took a while, my fam came around to it because it made her happy. That’s how people need to view Carl’s Date

[@thomasffrench3639]

Good for her. Did your grandfather pass, or did they split? I think that people are just scared of change because they value stability, and getting a new step-dad when it’s been 60 years of a stable marriage, can be a little shocking to the system. Honestly it’s preferable than my situation where my grandfather on my mom’s side where there’s a lot of unresolved tension between the family. Which is a little sad, because my father’s side has a very stable family of working class nerds. Well now they are engineers and businessmen, but my grandfather was a welder. But they are all on the other side of the country. I love my grandfather and mom’s family, I just hope they are okay. But considering how they are as people I don’t see that changing. Unfortunately my personality makes me so that I point out the problems that everyone wants to ignore, and I might not be able to hold it in any longer. But in all honesty it’s getting a lot better recently as my aunt’s newish husband is such a great person. I don’t want to get into anything, but I think that the grandkids starting to move out has made it so that they can talk this stuff without worrying about us.

[@SilverGallowglass]

People feel like romance has an age limit, that if you are over a certain age you either are married already or gonna be single until you die. People are weirded out for some reason by elderly people finding love again, dating, having "adult fun time", etc. They think the only love elder people need and want is platonic or familial (and while it can be and there is nothing wrong with that), that isn't always the case and assuming that should be so is weird and frankly really silly.

[@lesliea.1019]

Yes, thank you

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

I can imagine that one ending where Carl lied down on the hospital bed and reunited with the grown up Russel and Dug holding a balloon, just like how Carl met Ellie in the hospital before her passing.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

And handing Russel his old (or new) adventure book.

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

The ending was already great so this could make things even better.

[@Takisan111]

Someone pointed out to me recently that old timey paint had lead in it and that stuff can cause fertility issues among other things. Ellie and Carl sure did a lot of painting in that house....

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I saw the trailers for this short and I was excited to see it, And even though I can understand why some people don't like this ending for UP I for one think it's nice that Carl found new love. Because you're never too old to fall in love again and even though no one will ever take Ellie's place in Carl's heart at least he'll never be alone.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

I have always loved stories about men, dealing with the losing the love of their lives. There is something about seeing the gender, that is supposed to be emotionless and strong, being completely broken and sad, but eventually managing to overcome it, that speaks to me. Especially if they manage to overcome the lose by finding a new love, whether platonic or romantic one.

[@ahmadewing5287]

🤨😑

[@RealLenny]

@@ahmadewing5287 ? whats wrong lol

[@ahmadewing5287]

@@RealLenny you sure you want that answer?

[@iknowwhatyouare102]

@@ahmadewing5287 I certainly do. Spill the fucking beans.

[@RealLenny]

@@ahmadewing5287 yeah, im curious

[@cofagrigusfan24]

the way i like to explain Carl and Charles' ages is simple Carl looks older than he actually is Charles looks younger than he actually is the age gap from the beginning is still their, but the visuals tricks everyone

[@justaghostinthesea]

That's... actually genius. I'm using that.

[@DayDreamingWriters]

Also according to the DVD special, they Planned to put The Fountain of Youth, to explain why Charles looked younger but the cut it out

[@cameronnorris2055]

I always thought that Ellie was pregnant, since they made a nursery, but then she had a miscarriage and was unable to have another pregnancy because of it. Also, yah, I don't get how people missed the message of the film, they did all but say it out loud.

[@TheDeeOfJay]

You know, it's really telling how good a love story is when a simple 5min, abridged summary of it can still make you grief-stricken after hearing it.

[@zatywy6706]

Thank you SC for this video. I lost my girlfriend a month ago, and it's been tough to deal with the emotions and to move on. She loved UP, but I couldn't bare to think about it because of the montage and how it reminded me of her. I even have the grape soda bottle cap. But your words saying talking about the adventure never was the future or what we plan but instead the one we already experienced made me feel better about everything. Sure, I wanted to marry her and start a family with her but the laughs and fun times we had was all I really needed. So thank you, this helps me with my grief.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

My grandmother adored this movie. It was one of her all-time favorite films, alongside Disney’s “Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs” (which she saw in theaters back in her childhood), so it really says something special about the movie. RIP.

[@s3nsation646]

UP is a very special movie to me. The movie itself encapsulated what life is in its entirety, with all the crazy and the grief for 8 yr old me. I know on a technical and story level, there are other Pixar movies that are better, but this was an experience I wouldn't trade for anything else

[@pockystyx4087]

Having had grandparents who passed decades apart from each other; they didn't stop deserving to find new people to love in that other person's loss. I think people tend to get too hung up on what they want the characters to do in a story, rather than what actually might be the most natural and healthy action they should/could take.

[@parycartoons6840]

Do people seriously think that if Ellie was there she'd be like "No! Don't you dare find happiness without me! Don't you dare move on! Mourn me til you die!,"?

[@username-mk4qv]

If my spouse died I don’t think I’d find another. Just my personal belief. So I understand the argument that a person doesn’t NEED a romantic partner, and I think more media needs to show that being single can be perfectly great. And I also understand the fear of loved ones being replaced. Especially if say you’re a kid and your parent remarries after your other parent dies. It’s a valid concern imo. But I also understand the other side. People need to heal. That doesn’t mean forgetting or replacing who we lost. People deserve to find happiness again. I think Ellie would support him in this, and we should too.

[@jg3000]

Life is too short. If you can be loved in this world. Be loved. The loved one you lost will always be with you. They are no longer physical beings. You can talk to them whenever. Just make sure it's in your head to not come off as crazy. They'll hear you. Now you find a new treasure. Your loved one will be watching over you happy that your happy. You're not replacing the love you had. You'll always had that. But instead your adding love.

[@username-mk4qv]

@@jg3000 I appreciate your perspective and kindness! Personally, one partner is enough for me. If he’s still in my heart and I’m talking to him and he can hear me, then I’m not sharing myself with anyone else. I can find happiness, and love and be loved outside of a romantic relationship. I mean, this is if my partner died. If he say, cheated and we divorced? Then you bet I’ll be looking for a new love elsewhere! Haha

[@catgirl4198]

Up short: Keeping up the theme of letting things go and moving on. Everyone: 😡🤬👎

[@CellSpex]

The things people complain about...

[@sonicfanboy3375]

I swear people are offended by everything these days

[@francesscaena6822]

I think people who are unhappy about this haven‘t moved on from Ellie. Her and Carl were portrayed as the perfect love, as soulmates, as the sort of everlasting connection many people crave. So they „insert“ themselves in Carl and wish this perfect love would come back. Honestly, I feel the same way, but the truth is, Ellie isn‘t coming back. Carl can‘t have this connection with her anymore, the only thing left are precious memories. So seeing him try to find love a second time is so bittersweet, because this is now full on confirmation that this chapter of his life is over, that the perfect love story is over. And even if his next girlfriend isn‘t Ellie, he‘s allowed to meet someone new and share a special bond with them.

[@Mediados]

You know, there is not this ONE singular person who will make you happy and if you don't find them you'll die alone. There are plenty of right people out there, and letting go is the most important part of everything.

[@cloudykid7278]

Wait what?! There's a new ending for UP???

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

It’s gonna play before elemental at the movies.

[@hybridvenom9]

It's a old movie that i seen in 2013 middle of the movies really old i don't know i saw it and it was great god meet thinking about it made me cry

[@namelessnavnls8060]

Now that ya mention it, it IS kinda weird to me that Carl and Ellie didn't end up adopting a kid. I get it. Not every family that ends up being confronted with infertility _will_ want to adopt.. But it's still a very valid and beautiful way to solve that problem if anyone so chooses. Ellie didn't really seem like the type who would refuse to adopt, so I can only guess that Carl might've been the reason they didn't, preferring to either have a child that was related to them, or not have a child at all. Since later in his old age, Carl is sort of forced to take care of a kid he wanted nothing to do with, only to realize that you can still find family that isn't _genetically_ related to you. I dunno though, maybe I'm just reading into it too much.

[@DIRTkat_ofc]

This man resumed the movie in a couple seconds and yet it was still enough to make me (almost) cry, the scenes where they're starting to get old always get me 😭

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

Rest in Peace Ed Asner. Hope you're having your own adventure....😇🙏

[@iceclaw557]

tbh before I started this video, I thought that having a continuation from up, a movie that came out 14 years ago, wouldve been bad because i think for everyone who grew up with this film, they would just want this movie to fade out slowly and live on in memory, and for me personali I agree with this, but you also said something in this video that also makes alot of sense, that the whole plot is moving on, love and forgiveness, while I did like the idea of carl living on peacufuly with russel and doug for the rest of his days, the idea of him trying to find happiness again even just for a short while is just as sweet

[@thomasffrench3639]

Honestly the opening of Up is the best short film in the history of mainstream cinema. The hour long sequel is pretty good too. Honestly it’s pretty crazy that Pixar has been putting short films in mainstream cinemas by just adding it to a movie before the movie starts (not referring to Up opening in this case, but the shorts before most Pixar films)

[@LiminalFantasy]

The movie was literally about moving on so whoever is mad at him moving on clearly didn't understand the movie and is a fake fan 💀

[@ey3z4ya]

No IP is above criticism, even for a fan

[@LiminalFantasy]

@@ey3z4ya it was undeserving of criticism

[@plushyadventures4556]

I did not know there was a new ending

[@AngryDemonCat]

Ellie wants Carl to be happy so him going on a date and possibly finding someone else to also love would be perfect for him ❤

[@oras7745]

I'm a little torn on the short. On the one hand I want Carl to be happy and if that means for him that he can fall in love again, then that's okay of course. On the other hand though, it kind of gives me the vibe that you "need" romantic love to be happy and that isn't true, at least not for all people. I'm still happy for Carl that he could find new love. After all, that doesn't mean he replaces Ellie.

[@botOxymoron]

I do think there is something to be said about people finding happiness by remaining single after a partner's death, but I think in the end it has to be that person's choice. Whether to date again, or remaining single. So long as they're healthy and happy, that's what matters. In my case, my mother died of cancer. My father, who just turned 57 this year, has been without my mom for two years. Before her death, they had been in a relationship for over thirty years, and raised me together. They had known each other since they were teens. My father wants to remain single, as he felt my mom was his soulmate. Plus, he honestly just... doesn't have an interest in dating. I support this decision, just as I would support him if he did decide he wanted to date someone. it'd be a little weird after only seeing him with my mom all these years, but what matters to me is that he's happy.

[@empdisaster10]

Up will always hit hard for me because no matter what I always look at Carl and see my grandpa (who’s still alive) because my grandpa looks basically identical to him. He’s just a really nice guy who wants to make sure everyone in his life is happy and he’s the biggest father figure I’ve ever had. The story of up just always reminds me of my grandma and grandpa cause they’ve been married for like 55 years at this point and both of them are still going on adventures and having fun together, and it’s just always nice to see

[@blackcaner5073]

Sarcastic chorus I think u would really like the legend of vox machina

[@j.a.shawkins7640]

This played just before Elemental, and when I tell you I squealed in the theater, I mean it. The short was so cute, and you're right: life doesn't just stop happening. It was sweet, and cute, and I loved it. And let's face it, Dug will keep him mostly outta trouble. XD

[@LeBongFairy]

Well... My grandpa and grandma had a similar story. Fell in love, had dreams, built their own cottage, but my grandma got horribly ill at 61, 2 types of pancreatic cancer at once. After their long happy marriage was tragically cut short 4 years later, after her long fight ended, he was broken. I did my best for my grandpa, but nothing consolled him. He tried to move on by clinging to someone else, and she ended up getting him killed. This is the tragic version of what should be a lesson of; it's okay to move on in your life. Your love can be shared. I don't think people even from the truest of love stories should be barred from loving again.. just be careful who you give it to

[@SophieSelberg-bk2xy]

I just watched UP for the first time since I was younger yesterday! It was great I had no idea this short was coming out but now I’m excited!

[@susankornas2613]

I think this whole controversy is dumb. Why wouldn’t you have another partner after the loss of the previous one? This is like if your dog died so you decide to never get any more pets again. You can’t mourn someone your entire life, sometimes you just need to move on…

[@OLCOMMUNITY24]

Are you comparing an animal to a Human?

[@trixxart777]

Like he still cares for Ellie but he deserves to be happy and try to move on especially being alone can affect a lot of older people and he is clearly getting more happy after being Russel's basically his grandpa and doug being a campaign wich is especially relevant as a lot of old people will have dogs as a campaign. And it's clear that time has some what passed. Heck Russel is basically fulfils Ellie's dream of having a child and he has a similar engery to Ellie when she was a child.

[@themarvelanddcmarshlands]

Another thing about Up is that I don't care what people say about Elastigirl, I always found Ellie to be one of the most stunning Pixar women

[@pandoraarts7748]

WHOS ATTACKING MY GRANDPA?! Let the old man find love again!!! For real tho, love this movie it helped me cope with the death of my grandfather.

[@thatstheteasis5072]

I think people just want to believe in the fairytale, Disney princess kind of love. Where you find your soulmate, get married, have kids (or don't), and grow old together. UP is a great movie because it destroys that unrealistic fairytale people trick themselves into believing marriage is. It shows that even after you find your "soulmate", life isn't perfect. There's still going to be things you need to overcome and marriage is not the end of your story. Not everyone dies at the same time as their spouse, in fact it's more common for one to die before the other. Does anyone want that? No, but life never promised to give you everything you want and UP is a great portrayal of life not always going the way you planned. In short. Up is a great story that gives people a little taste of reality and reminds us that life keeps going so we should keep having adventures no matter what.

[@victorlannister5606]

I immediately went awww when I found out Carl was moving on and going on a date! Good for him it makes me smile!

[@alexbennett7018]

The thing is moving on and having a new adventure doesn’t necessarily mean having another romantic relationship him finding adventure with rustle and Doug in fact ending by showing Carl on a dating arguably falls into the trap of saying that people need romantic partners to be happy and lead fulfilling lives.

[@elciervoparaguayo3756]

Carl was already living a happy fulfilling life before trying to date again, that's the ending of the movie

[@summersweete09]

I loved the carols date short it made me cry but happy because life goes on and people deserve to be happy I adored that carol is able to look for his next adventure not forgetting eille or the love he has for her that’s what that moment with the picture is all about he’s able to let go and find new happiness and opportunities for joy

[@NightoftheLivingcookies10]

People are also failing to see that Carl’s date doesn’t mean he’s suddenly got a new great love. It just means he might get some nice companionship for the last bit of his life which is very sweet

[@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside]

My dad passed a few months ago, and my mom started dating recently. It doesn't mean that she didn't care for him. But she deserves happiness and love. Idk why people cant understand that there's not just 1 person for you???

[@unsungzero787]

The fact that the older man looks younger can probably be explained by the fact that he is a thinner man who didn’t change in size as much as Carl did

[@themeekwarrior]

My mom started dating a year after my dad died. Believe me, I understand being upset. But I also understood over time that my mom wanted to be a wife again and to be happy. Some people remain happy having just the memories of the person who loved them until they were taken from them. Others don't want to be alone and left with memories. I think it's definitely on an individual basis. No one is obligated not to date or marry once the person they are married to is gone forever.

[@DianaDxD]

I saw the short in theaters cuz it was playing before Elemental and i was trying so hard not to cry during the short cuz my theater did have a bit of people there and I was already feeling insecure crying near some strangers but when Carl said "you'll always be my girl" all of a sudden it was like a pipe burst in my eyes. What made me less insecure about crying tho was seeing a couple next to me crying together. Its what made me not understand what people's problem was with the short. As much as I wanted Carl to be with Ellie again I knew that Carl deserved to be happy and find love again🥺

[@yukijadenfilms3425]

An Up sequel where Carl dies and meets Ellie in the afterlife would DESTROY ME. I’d be bawling in the theatre.

[@Frosty_McFrost05]

*Which put her in the hospital and then the box* I'm ashamed I even laughed at that 💀

[@emmahawkins4805]

Dude I cried at the summing up of the beginning of the story😭. Up just goes way too hard in that beginning man😭😭😭

[@crouton7070]

i remember a quote from the yt channel cinima therapy, 'it's okay to move on, there's enough love in your heart for both of them"

[@KGKSkull]

The closest thing to a story about what is after blank. Is somehow from a Japanese kids show. As it takes place after our main hero failed to save a little girl from a war zone. So he became a vagabond, and carried nothing but his clothes, lucky undies, and his smile. The show is kamen rider ooo. And, our main hero. He is just so charming. And there’s still more after this, as he eventually is on a journey to find a certain friend(I refuse to spoil it)

[@tajklair]

The Up short series they made is so sweet and wholesome

[@albertbecerra]

Well it's just that he's already very old, why not just live his final days remembering ellie, and then you know "I'll see you on the other side." What's the purpose of dating? To find a compatible partner that you may fall in love with and build a life together, that's the adventure. It's gonna be kind of hard building that life again when you already have your foot on deaths door.

[@jesusrox4u]

Oh no. A widower is getting back into dating. That’s bad for some reason. To the “grown ups” getting fussy about this, get over it. Grow up, Peter Pan.

[@kalifogg6610]

My Nana married three times and outlived all three of her husbands by a good amount of years, granted she divorced her first husband, but she still outlived him, my Grammy lived over six years after her second husband passed away and I know a lady who’s going on 21 years without her husband. If people want to move on and find love again, once they’re ready, they should be supported

[@ravenartistofficial]

Ellie was his soulmate without a doubt! But there is nothing wrong with second love… everyone deserves to be loved in the end and why should an animation person be any different? Good for you Carl.

[@SNOW_THE_WOLF]

6:53 this reminds me of my grandpa he used to have one of those the movie when I was little I tried to ride it but tumbled down the stairs and hit the wall ah memories. But the movie and the way carl didn't move on for a long time kind of reflects how I am I am a person who hoards things that have happy memories attached to them and cling to the past like my life depends on it I always end up feeling a sinking feeling when I watch the movie because I see myself in that place

[@islasullivan3463]

I think it’s the fact that media has this tendency to focus on moving on as finding a new Romantic relationship, as though you can’t have a fulfilling life without romance, and UP was one of movies that didn’t do this. So it’s not that this is bad, especially with the original ending, but just kinda annoying, at least to me.

[@crod9905]

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone keeps saying it's because we don't want Carl to move on. But the original ending of UP showed Carl did move on by letting Russell and Dug into his life. Moving on doesn't necessarily always mean finding romantic love again, which society seems to think it does.

[@islasullivan3463]

^Cause society needs to remind you that romantic love is the MOST important thing a person can experience and is clearly the only way a person can be fulfilled. Forget platonic relationships, a career, getting more involved in your community, mentoring, finding new or old hobbies, or pets. Romance is the ONLY thing that truly matters. (Sarcasm)

[@1993digifan]

@@crod9905 Then why have so many of comments here complaining about the short is ABOUT Carl just going on a date that might not even lead to anything? Pretty clear people are butt hurt about how a person can still date after the death of their partner, because that means if they die before their partner that their partner might not take a vow of celibacy because they are just the most special snowflake romantic partner that the surviving partner could never ever even go on a date.

[@Bukki13]

when i read the title i thought the controversy was that this masterpiece was gated behind a movie that was poorly advertised (elemental)

[@calmghosts]

We can see the actual message of the movie right from the beginning when Ellie learns she can’t have a baby. She grieves for a bit and then moves on with plans for a slightly different life. And she still ends up happy.

[@Devlerbat]

Luckily Up is Pixar and Disney hasn't seemed to show any signs of forcing Pixar to remake any of their movies (squeeze out sequels, prequels, and spinoffs that they didn't really want sure, but not remakes yet.) So I am sure it will take more than 10 years for the live-action Up movie to get made. I won't say it won't ever happen, but it will take a while at least. A live action Toy Story remake or a photo-realistic CGI Bug's Life remake will likely be the first heralds of the Pixar remake doom.

[@JamboreeBlackberry]

I cried at the short when I saw it, I hate this controversy, it didn’t deserve it

[@MickeyMouse-lm6zj]

he's so old he may as well live his final years remembering ellie

[@jg3000]

And he will. And he'll also be loved in this world.

[@emilyrobinson4103]

Sarcastic Chorus: Mech Arena Me: Macarena?

[@Nic_2751]

People really gaslighted themselves about UP and it’s true message, what did y’all think “till death due us part” meant

[@kalliskivike]

It means death has taken away your love but that never implied to move on and find new love especially old age and decades of being together. I personally knew 2 old couples that died of a broken heart not even a month of their spouse death. People feel love differently, what works for one, does'nt work for the other but thats also why we need to find suitable partner with similar love values.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Well the ghost of Ellie would want Carl to be happy and if her memories weigh him down. She wouldn't want it either.

[@staceynainlab888]

The people upset about this are the same immature people upset that Rebecca from This Is Us remarried after Jack died. oh she married his best friend. people think that somehow make it a huge betrayal to Jack. Why? would it be better to marry a stranger than marry someone who has always been there helping her and her family and she has a strong connection with?

[@izzybzzydorkp568]

I found it a pleasent surprise that he was opening up to the chance of new lady in his life. So I have no problem with this.

[@GabesEdtiz]

I have a feeling this short is about to be better than the actual movie that’s playing after it.

[@lindenbree9188]

Eh... I'm mixed on this. I mean, he has every right to move on and date new people. But I kind of liked the idea that a platonic relationship - being a surrogate dad, was enough. I also personally can't imagine someone like Carl wanting to put in the energy to date. Did he ever even date other people? He met his wife when they were kids and I'm not sure if they even got with anyone else their entire lives. Ellie was literally his entire life. I just never felt like a new love would ever be a concern of his. It felt like a "been there done that" deal and he's ready for new adventures... like surrogate dadding. But that's just my read, and by no means the definitive one

[@juliecampbell860]

Being any type of parental figure is a different relationship than one with someone near your own age. Sometimes it's nice to have someone to talk to that has that shared experience of having lived through the same events/times as you. Carl strikes me as an introvert. Introverts tend to have a few really close friends instead of a large group of not close friends. Since he knew Ellie for so long, "close friend" and "love" was for him the one and the same, so he never had a reason to seek out any more close relationships. Maybe he is just looking for that close friend that is more of a peer to him, and he doesn't quite know how to separate that out from love just yet. It's worth it for him to have that new adventure of "going on a date with someone that he hasn't known since childhood" just so he can figure himself out a little more.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I mean, his platonic relationships can be enough, and he can enjoy something else as well. It's not like a romantic relationship invalidates his platonic ones as "not being enough", he's pretty clearly not doing it to make up for some deficiency in his life. A romance doesn't complete him, it's just something nice on top

[@ExcelHedge]

I didn't know his Voice actor died... Dammit I was looking forward to more of those Doug Days shorts.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Oh my God, yes. Especially the mid-as-hell part. But I 100% relate to Carl - when my boyfriend died the universe abruptly stopped for me.

[@thearomanticshipper4468]

This film is amazing the whole way through. It’s not just the prologue.

[@ivory7182]

My only problem with the short/date is that it's one more nail in the coffin that pushes the idea that you need romance to be happy. I am just sick of romance being pushed into my face everywhere. Carl could continue to have adventures without needing to go on a date. That said, it is good to have some representation of older folk also being able to move on and date again.

[@xempororhxppyx]

UP!! The nostalgia!! 😭😭 I haven’t heard that name in years, i love this movieeee

[@CLDJ227]

You didn't bring up how at the end of the film Carl's house lands exactly where him and Elie wanted that house to be at paradise falls. When I saw this film in theaters that moment legit touched me. We always hear how a movie is suppose to make you laugh, cry, or touch your heart, or do all of the above. UP accomplished all those things and more for me and the audience I saw it with, becoming one of my all time favorite films. Also, it's funny how this came out a year after Wall-E and both films have two separate audiences: one that likes the first half with no dialouge and think the rest is just ok, and the others that think they are great all the way through. I'm in the latter catergory. Wall-E is fantastic; Up is outstanding 😎.

[@Thomperfan]

The opening montage of Up was great, but what would have made it even better would be if we got to see what Carl and Ellie were like in their adolescent years.

[@wilderac2250]

I had a whole online argument with someone who complained about the short announcement and pretty much everything you said here was my talking points.

[@Luca-ln4qo]

I feel like this short/spinoff is all about moving on to the future while getting over the past. Carl overcame the death of Ellie. It somehow is a form of overcoming an obstacle/ the past and learn to let go. For myself, I don't get why ppl are getting mad over this, like that literally MISSING THE MESSAGE