this is exactly what i needed. average flier, just coming into the whole flight aspect of the game and this series is a huge help. thanks for posting
@FinalHeresy11 жыл бұрын
To anyone having trouble with this, and i don't recall him mentioning this. Rebind your Pitch up and down keys to something reachable. for example i have pitch up as Q and pitch down as E. That way when you're not fighting your sensitivity settings to do this properly. Hitting those buttons gives you maximum pitch immediatly
@252V_Pyro10 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice the Liberator around 2:30, on the left side of the screen?
@MedicOnDutyVids10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out, had a good chuckle at it. What makes it even funnier as the camera comes back around (at 2:40 or so) you can see the Liberator is totally screwed.
@Story_Anon11 жыл бұрын
Excellent maneuver, I always had an inkling that something like this was possible after I noticed it was easier to skim around the dome of biolabs using this sort of turn than the traditional method. Great video.
@LConnal8911 жыл бұрын
essentially you want to be pulling down on you mouse to use the pitch down to help swing your aircraft through the turn. If you're having trouble may I suggest binding pitch up/down to buttons, preferably thumb buttons on your mouse. That way you simply hold S, roll your craft on its side and then press A/D (essentially in the direction you wanted to turn before you rolled over) and hold pitch down. You still need to correct the roll as you come around but that's a good starting point
@XxDevilsLettucexX11 жыл бұрын
Wanted to send a quick thank you for your PS2 flight tutorials. Being fairly new to the game and extremely new to the flying aspect, these tutorials have helped me much in getting a jump on advanced flight. There are a lot of really good pixel pilots out there and starting fresh means little room for error. Thanks again for the helpful and well done vids :) Peace
@frydac12 жыл бұрын
To make this easier, bind pitch down (and up) to am mouse or keyboard key, and use that for maximum pitching. This technique alone has greatly improved my uptime in the reaver.. Thx again!
@LinusProbst12 жыл бұрын
I have learned this maneuve from another video, and used it all the time since. Really the fastest way to turn around. And it works on Libs too!
@LordLuminor8 жыл бұрын
Hahahha at 2:30 the Lib gets flipped by a Reaver and at 2:40 it gets shot by an tank, poor lib
@mystech212512 жыл бұрын
For this turn you should be using your mouse to both roll and pitch. Roll onto your side, and basically pitch the nose of the aircraft down so that, were you level, you'd be doing quite a dive. That's the main force that's spinning the craft about, though the yaw (A or D key) helps things out a bit
@EdsEnemy12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ironfist, I play with one of your mates on NC Mattherson, with the blue lions. Guilmon he's called, nice guy. Your tips have been very helpful to the outfit, especially when it comes to air cav training, just wanted to say thanks.
@LMSTVx12 жыл бұрын
The swinging motion is a kind of directional movement of the mouse. Depending on whether you have your flight controls inverted or not. Its more of a trial and error thing and it depends on your approach angle. Keep experimenting till you find the right movement as I'm sure it differs from person to person. I will see about having a mouse cam in the next videos, although I'm not sure whether it will be more of a hindrance than a help.
@CountCocofang11 жыл бұрын
Its not exactly as pictured in this video but my god is it easy that way! I bind pitch up/down to my secondary mouse keys and its a whole new feeling.
@mchaney200312 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, this move is VERY, VERY simple to do with a pitch up / pitch down keybind. Just turn your aircraft on its side and press your pitch down key. Done. Thats it. It gets even easier if you bid Q and E to roll left and roll right. Then, just press Q or E for a moment, which will evenly roll your aircraft, then press your pitch up or pitch down key for a moment. This will execute a perfect banking turn. easily.
@SwagKidRazor11 жыл бұрын
This video has helped improved my flying skills! Thank you good sir! I do have a curious question watching your video, I noticed when you practice the banking, it's always to the right, is this something you would say most flyers would stick to (banking to the right/left all the time) and if you anticipated it, would that still give an edge to the shooter?
@RoyAnderson2 жыл бұрын
Very perceptive comment. :)
@tehbloxxer50211 жыл бұрын
It took me about 5-15 tries to get this, maybe 20. And I experienced the same problem with the aircraft turning toward the sky when you attempt to complete the turn. Ok so here is the position of your turn. You have slowed down. You are banked. Now when you go to press A or D the aircraft just turns upward. That's completely normal and I'm using the weaver. To remedy this tell your move your mouse down(if you're not inverted) that will complete the turn.
@Fiah900012 жыл бұрын
I haven't practiced this maneuver yet, but it looks like you you have to pitch down hard while you're banked over, then as you're completing the turn, you roll it to level out. Sounds like it would work perfectly with a mousebutton bound to pitch down.
@tehbloxxer50211 жыл бұрын
Ok let me make this a little more understandable. When your aircraft is banked to the right. moving the mouse up turns the plane to the right. move the mouse down turns it left. So when you move it down it completes the turn as you will see if you do it in game
@AL00ZER11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! btw, you should post part 2 as a video response to yourself to this video. Your flight videos will get more views easier and be easier to find. Would love to see your channel grow more!
@halsed12 жыл бұрын
Great vids - thanks for taking the time to put them together. Would be very useful if you referenced the key function (aka: roll right, break, strafe left) as opposed to the actual key (hold down 's') for those of us who re-map the default keys.
@mrFFFox10 жыл бұрын
3:35 explanation
@adonisalonso777910 жыл бұрын
thanks
@lolzomgz133711 жыл бұрын
I've heard this explained lots of times...and point 4 is always what gets me..."use the mouse"...? To do what? "Swing the aircraft to the left" ...? What's kinda like saying "use the thing, to do the thing!" What direction of mouse movement does that translate to? I'm confused...D:
@Huztl11 жыл бұрын
I learnt this from another video, I'm not entirely sure it's the same thing, since i can't do the reverse manuever straight after, yet it turns on the spot 180'. Looks like this to bank to the LEFT. 1. Roll to the right with your mouse. 2. Press and hold Space Bar. 3. Press and hold both A and D key 4. Pitch down (Preferably with a key bindid to pitch down to get a clean turn) 5. Hold this until you are turned where you want. To bank right, roll to the Left and hold D key.
@piuli959 жыл бұрын
THIS MOVEMENT IS ESSENTIAL! I played this game over 200 hours and i wondered why i cant goddamn learn to fly like others. It was all about this momevent, den i b'cum ace! THANK YO.!
@whocares2kill11 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, a VTOL Aircraft like a reaver, mosquito, or any of the PS2 aircraft, this is quite possible, though the engines don't move fast enough in the game animations to make it look so. The G-forces on the body would be pretty intense
@bobbyras9012 жыл бұрын
If it's not too much effort, would it be possible to have a video of you controlling the mouse in, say, the bottom right corner of these videos? I know for me, proper mouse manipulation is by far the most difficult part of flying. It would be a huge help. Thanks for doing these, they're excellent!
@Troubleshooter1112 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Apache attack helicopter or the A-10 attack aircraft. Ugly aircraft, but rugged and they make you soil your pants if you're in an enemy tank. :)
@Detril200012 жыл бұрын
This game's controls are so weird! Thanks to your tutorial I was able to do a noob banking turn, but it isn't useful if I can't stop piloting my ship straight into the groud! xD
@Kevizyke11 жыл бұрын
I think he's talking about the "Look up" and "Look down" keybinds under vehicle keybinds because those 2 things are not bound to anything.
@markusminny947211 жыл бұрын
That is why u go to VR training and prac. it doesnt cost any resources and u take no damage
@martininml11 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're excellent pilot grats!! I have a question: How many mouse sens u use? Regards!!
@elikei368 жыл бұрын
2:30 is so funny
@LordLuminor8 жыл бұрын
Hahahha at 2:30 the Lib gets flipped by a Reaver and at 2:40 it gets shot by an tank :D
@DJChiefX1978 жыл бұрын
Classic NC
@Mark46711 жыл бұрын
It's all about timing and when you hit your hover key (Space).
@jeroenvanede12 жыл бұрын
Happy thet you are back. I'd like to see missle dodge. The lock on missles where eazy to dodge but they made the misses turn faster. I dit do it a few times whit the banking turn then turbo. But it dint work all the time.
@1Celebrindor12 жыл бұрын
I think you should have uploaded an introduction video that explained everything you were trying to do. This would have allowed you to avoid beating around the bush and means that if we want to rewatch the video we don't have to listen to 4 minutes of explaining the series before we get to find out what you are teaching us. But good video
@Sarasseo12 жыл бұрын
in the future, is it possible to give small clips of it being the technique being in action? Great video as always though.
@lilkhmer512 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend racer airframe or the hover airframe on a reaver? I use the racer since the reaver has great vertical thrusters anyways but would u recommend the hover over that.
@LMSTVx12 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm back :) Been having some issues, but all sorted regular content is back on the menu!
@27POP2711 жыл бұрын
I don't think that this goes against all logic and physics like you said in the intro. Considering how the jets are turning downwards in a 90 degree angle, I see this acceptable to logic and physics
@XShadowzVarcolac8 жыл бұрын
Ironically i ended up mastering the reverse maneuver by accident when i attempted to practice a bank turn at a full stop.
@331benni12 жыл бұрын
Good video,but i have a question about the certs of the reaver. Because i think your last cert video isnt up to date...cause the patches the armor of the reaver so can you pls update the cert guide Thx Benni
@mauiwowie353810 жыл бұрын
he should have started by having everyone keybind pitch up and pitch down... you should only ever be using your mouse for light turns and aiming a full kill turn should be done with your keybound pitch down it holds a perfect line and is the fastest turn possible also the fastest kill turn is done with decelerating and pitch down when you add vertical thrust it makes the turn take longer
@JohnnyMaverik12 жыл бұрын
I do that all the time xD Makes you feel like an idiot, trying to pull a banking turn and suddenly O.o... oops... hello ground...
@christonejazz8 жыл бұрын
REALLY useful video. Does Stability help this maneuver execute faster? I've been running dogfight performance. It seems like either performance could help this maneuver, but the hardest part is when my opposition responds with the reverse maneuver in your other video. Thusly lending Stability superior to Dogfighting, in a dogfight. Any input on which performance performs well all around, as opposed to just any one form of air combat? (Again, GREAT video, really helpful :3 ).
@idc73112 жыл бұрын
Yes! another video! ive been waiting :D
@JohnnyMaverik12 жыл бұрын
You make it look way easiest than it is -_- Had a bit of a practice this afternoon and after 20 minutes I got about as far as kind of being able to do it sometimes.
@thecrush3r11 жыл бұрын
For the last 2 hours I've been trying to do this with no luck. I'me pretty sure that is all about the mouse movement more then the keyboard movement, so for the love of all that is holy show us a video with the mouse movements and spare us this horrible nightmare xD
@collindaley49097 жыл бұрын
Should we use hover frame or dogfighting frame for this? And what would you recommend in general.
@DrunkZergling12 жыл бұрын
I agree "Swing your aircraft around with your mouse" is completely unhelpful.
@LMSTVx12 жыл бұрын
I will be doing an episode on dodging A2A missles. Stay tuned :)
@ruedigersyt11 жыл бұрын
Flying rookie dropped into home base, killing all. LOL :-D
@goldenbucket24846 жыл бұрын
Scythes are better when performing this manuever due to higher agility and speed.
@Shivalyn12 жыл бұрын
Clarification, and perhaps a video/picture in picture of your mouse/keyboard movements in the corner, might help future videos make more sense. For instance, I'm currently trying this but don't understand the 'swing your aircraft around with your mouse' bit and have nothing to reference. The only movement I can get out of my mouse is to make my aircraft roll or pitch up and down. I certainly don't want to roll and the pitching doesn't seem to swing me around, so I have no idea what to do.
@Mark46711 жыл бұрын
I can do this, the issue I have is shooting down the enemy ESF AFTER facing them. What use is a reverse maneuver if you can't shoot them down after that.
@briareos-lawrence3 жыл бұрын
Found this in 2021 but it still wery useful lessons
@shimaokku181411 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot, helped me out a lot!!!
@MrThompyson12 жыл бұрын
This dude doesn't fly, he dances in the sky.
@richardashley364111 жыл бұрын
I use a stick and bank and pull up. huh.. I'll have to try this.
@1337b3nnyvav00m12 жыл бұрын
@Teh Kky it sharpens the turn and elevates you. Once u turn the craft on it's side, the thrusters that a and d control are facing down. It sharpens the turn. Same purpose as the spacebar except the a and d ate esential. You weren't using this turn to its full potential. Listen to LMSTVx he knows what he's talking about.
@walmartian9 жыл бұрын
omg thank u for this,, playing it on the console beta
@LMSTVx12 жыл бұрын
You can do this turn in a completely stock aircraft.
@Adenzel11 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a lot harder than it looks. Feels so weird as well.
@Melonizeable9 жыл бұрын
I can do the first three steps fine but when it gets to pulling back the mouse on the fourth step I need a runway for my mouse. The issue is I can't up the sensitivity unless I want my esf to be rolling for days by the slight horizontal deviation of my mouse.
@HotaruZoku9 жыл бұрын
+Melonize I'm going to see if I can bind pitch to a couple of mouse buttons, and use them in these exact situations. Move the mouse to position the craft, but press the button for the full locked force to get through these big turns.
@turkishdelight54869 жыл бұрын
+Melonize If you have a gaming mouse, you can assign pitch up and pitch down to mouse button 3 and 4.
@LMSTVx12 жыл бұрын
My new cert video is completely up to date and relevant.
@richardw848711 жыл бұрын
If it helps I think it's easier at least for me to hold space while you do it
@PicklesReallySuck12 жыл бұрын
Do you stream or anything? NC on Mattherson always gets their ass beat in the air, I'd like to see some actual uncut, non-highlight, gameplay. I play NC as well, figured it would be easier to get strategy from real play.
@Brokkolesz12 жыл бұрын
I like it. Armored and powerful looking. Too bad it isnt armored and it isnt powerful:C
@Xemnashnz11 жыл бұрын
thank you very much dude
@Enkiev66611 жыл бұрын
2:30 (see the reaver starting to fly and make the liberator crash) "..." *faceplant*
@zack1e12 жыл бұрын
sweet, thanks!!
@Ifarmplasma7 жыл бұрын
Yo LMS could you make a console version of these flight tutorial videos please, this kind of confused me on ps4
@subhanbsb699 жыл бұрын
is it okay to use a controller like xbox1. im used to mouse with low sensitivity (to much counter GO :P) so I feel like flying with controller is better for me.
@Rabidog1311 жыл бұрын
good film. it almost made me think i could actually fly... till i got in game. I am so tired of a couple fighters wrecking my whole ground assualt teams that im quitting the game as i think that its broken. 2 good fighter shutting down a whole assualt is stupid.
@nimble56927 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 3:36
@GGShinobi777 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@harresdirksen195011 жыл бұрын
Are you using inverted mouse or up = up down = down?
@thecrush3r11 жыл бұрын
By Zeus's beard, I've got it. :D
@tehkky445612 жыл бұрын
I have managed to do this in my scythe from a stand still but not while moving. What purposes do the A and D keys serve for this motion? I have managed to do it using only the S key and pitch down. I can do it with the A and D keys as well but I don't know what they are for. I still have to work on getting the timing right to do it after stalling my forward motion.
@thealexgher11 жыл бұрын
one thing that makes flying in this game so inaccesible is that there's nowhere to train yeah i practiced the banking turn for half and hour but the second i get into a dog fight i panic and die. now although i'd like to try agian i have to wait 10 more minutes and at that rate i can't learn anything
@ErikEllison12 жыл бұрын
In order to pull this off I am having to REALLY pull the mouse down to make the turn. I tried cranking the sensitivity but that didn't really help. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong?
@MrRolnicek12 жыл бұрын
Pitch down ... that is the answer.
@TheHalomaster25611 жыл бұрын
yeah, when I press a or d, it goes up or down not left and right when i'm banking, do you mean the look left and right?
@MattiAceGaming12 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a fellow pilot, keep up the good work. Thumbs up and +1 sub //MattiAce
@GuacNine10 жыл бұрын
So he says hit s to slow down before you roll over, but he's clearly not slowing down. What am I missing?
@stefanmitrovic27635 ай бұрын
Can this still be done in 2024? :). I can not do it with vanu scythe :(
@thebritishpillock96257 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain how to do step four as I can slow down bank right and hold a but if I swing my mouse in the opposite direction it just levels me out I really cant seem to get the hang of it.
@darktrooper411 жыл бұрын
what frame do you have on your reaver? i am using the dog fighter frame
@TigerAceCrew11 жыл бұрын
Episode 1: Banking Turn Ok, if this is the first lesson, then this must be secondary school... get me to the primary, I need the basics, or the Republic will fail because of me.
@T3lkwa11 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, the game does not let any mouse axis movements to be bound. I go to Aircraft-mouse click a control, move the mouse and it does nothing.
@Mark46711 жыл бұрын
Experiment (make sure u use racer airframe)
@SteveWFitch10 жыл бұрын
Is there a way, and if so, to bind this to buttons on your mouse?
@Grey4Hunter11 жыл бұрын
But when do you have to press space then?
@chrisnova9012 жыл бұрын
do i have to unlock some perks to do this properly?
@DragonGuard133712 жыл бұрын
Doing this is my mossy feels very slow, I'm suspecting that it's mainly the braking speed of the default mossy though (from what I've seen it actually has the lowest braking speed of the 3). Can anyone perhaps confirm this or am I just doing something wrong here?
@dimitri681810 жыл бұрын
Could someone please explain to me how to do the last turn with your mouse? I can do the first 3 steps, but I have no idea how I should finish the turn with my mouse.
@Finnv89310 жыл бұрын
drag the mouse down or toward yourself.......
@Ifarmplasma7 жыл бұрын
On PS4 is it good to bind throttle to R3?
@Mathrigo66611 жыл бұрын
I am absolutly too stupid to fly, i cant even do this. I better stay on ground.
@chetmcgovern99855 жыл бұрын
I don't think these still hold up quite as well. They are, in fact, 6 years old. I mean...SoE is still in the link =P