Plants Vs. Zombies Battle For Neighborville: 1 Year Later | Dead Overnight

[@jamestalbot9588]

*man I just wanted garden warfare 3*

[@owmybigtoe659]

yeah

[@snurglezz1313]

I agree with u my guy

[@citysmall3427]

But now we know gw3 is gonna blow it out of the park with how long we gotta wait and the expectations they've set for themselves

[@Otterlier]

@@citysmall3427 you really think they are going to make a gw3 that’s cute

[@societyman7526]

@@Otterlier We can only hope they don’t think that the players don’t want more. Because we do. EA just failed to market the game properly, and semi-rushed it

[@Seggy_]

“Hey guys let’s just change everything that made the other 2 games great” -popcap

[@rashya7640]

Nah it not popcap fault You already know who fault is this

[@JokR07]

@@rashya7640 it's Eat All's fault

[@user-qh3nc2yl7o]

More like *EA*

[@Cameron0001]

EA not PopCap

[@mrnutts9143]

@@rashya7640 Popcap made the game not EA

[@AmalGum001]

It might sound weird but my biggest complaint about BfN (other than there being no variants) was that they changed the zombies' aesthetic from a purple mansion and graveyards to a brown brick factory and a forest with gigantic trees

[@fenomeno__]

I totaly agree with you. That estetical difference was one of the thing which disapointed me of BFN.

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

@@fenomeno__ Fr

[@quadiracook6401]

True

[@jha3xtalyst98]

My big complains is EA the king of micro transactions Dont let buy coins and you need to grind thats awful

[@epickpotato25]

Reminds me of the tf2 aestheic

[@Notllamalord]

Honestly exploring the neighborhood and just hanging out in 2 was the best part. I never even played online

[@elipetrou9308]

Ya, I Loved the hub. Still a great game

[@tjkiwi3252]

All I ever did so fun with my sister

[@yNisake]

Same here bro lol

[@tjkiwi3252]

@@yNisake just so fun to explore and try to break into enemy base.

[@TwoTwoTwane]

Finally, someone like me

[@CurtbroG]

Personally, I think they should've stopped at gw2 and just kept updating that.

[@bobbobby632]

In their defense the were updating gw2 for a long time, and also they really cannot make much money by just updating the game, but I would have loved it if they did what you described

[@wettoson2814]

Same

[@kingsigel5411]

I think they should have just added the new characters from battle of neborville as like free dlc or paid dlc in gw2

[@rowanlinderud1800]

The only reason I don’t really play gw2 is because there is no sprint

[@Boiled_Cabbage]

Agreed

[@steponkusceponas4085]

A big turnoff for me personally was how stupidly specialized the classes are. In older installments characters were geared towards a purpose, but we're also versatile enough to be played in one way. Here, everyone has one thing they're good at, and tahts it. Say, i like being a tank and spending on the field a lot of time, and every class had a health and/or regeneration upgrades. Here, Regen percs are restricted to "defensive" classes, and healt to wildflower and tv head. So u end up sacrificing results by playing how you want, or sacrifice fun by learning a billion playstyles. Cactus? ONLY SNIPER. Engineer? ONLY SUPPORT. discount disco zombie? ONLY CROWD CONTROL

[@maximilianklinger2712]

That can be a plus for others tho, just look at opposite happening in Battlefield 2042 lol

[@ERAA-on-YT]

@@maximilianklinger2712 Yeah. Large-scale combat shouldn't never meet hero-shooter formula. SW Battlefront being not-that-big (scale) did it well with the Heroes, meanwhile Elite Classes in Battlefield 1 where close to that (and bot require a lot of skill) - even BF5 tried to improve the Elites changing them with Class Archetypes to upgrade your soldier during the match, unlocking class-related bonuses/perks for the next respawn (basically turn him/her into the Elite); but that just resulted into a false promise as the other ones.

[@corngaming2195]

I agree. The only exception is the Scientist and the Acorn.

[@Abm289]

They don’t understand the phrase “don’t fix it if it’s not broken

[@BrockBerlinOfficial]

Nah, The phrase by our Lord and Savior, Wolfy Playz is "If it aint broke, dont fix it". Word it like that

[@etlttc353]

That phrase says "don't do something new lol"

[@kwayke9]

Neither did CoD in the mid 2010s

[@rishabhmulay5230]

Mate, it’s “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

[@TheCommentor-]

- wolfyplayz

[@owmybigtoe659]

That music at the start for the gw1 was so nostalgic

[@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat]

The acapella after every match in 1 hits me everytime with nostaliga

[@nightwolf9375]

@@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat ikr, just like the original PVZ i fell in love with GW1’s soundtrack. I mean don’t get me wrong gw2 is great, but i just have more memories of the orginal. Honestly one of my favorite games from last/this gen

[@holyswordexcalibur5432]

Definitely one of the most happy soundtracks I've ever heard. Just something about it puts a smile on my face.

[@owmybigtoe659]

hOly sWoRd ExCaliBuR yeah it’s just a good soundtrack plus the nostalgia

[@babette217]

Yeah I love that music

[@xSquishyFroggox]

Personally I loved gw2 better because there’s so much more to do. I loved the side quests too with chompers pizza delivery, zomburger delivery, target range, bulls eye boat blast etc. The missions in bfn were really fun but once you did them and completed the areas there was no point in returning whereas I often revisit missions in gw2. The town hall was super fun too! I loved the cats vs Dinos, the boss hunts, the randomiser, there was just so much more game modes whereas in bfn only like 3-4 are available each week and they’re never good.

[@Robin_hsr12]

Let's talk about how the ign guy might have been that one dude who called doom way too hard

[@spaghettimaghetti8]

I been playing gw2 but I can’t log in with EA app, my screen is all bugged out

[@Inkblotiest]

There was so much potential, but it was squandered for money... But that’s just the EA way

[@soup1up334]

Looks like EA just "Eats Away" their money

[@ribir1382]

They did something similar to gw 2, updating the game for a year and forgetting about it, (a few years later we got the taco bandit update, but now that’s not playable and there is no way to unlock the skins now), also, the legendary characters, wich when the game came out they where so hard to obtain, now you can pay for them, same with the goat and torch wood, hard to obtain, now you can pay. Rux, you could unlock what he sells playing a lot, but too expensive maybe

[@Seggy_]

Also popcap for changing everything that was good about the games before

[@fishingrod2253]

ITS EA OR NOTHING

[@Seggy_]

No

[@MegaDude10]

Fun fact: The trailer was leaked.

[@mechanizedperfection7685]

That’s why the game was released early

[@Dr.Oofers]

Really?

[@crampedturtle]

@@mechanizedperfection7685 Not at all

[@bluebomber875]

I actually remember that, I think I still have it screen recorded somewhere on my phone lol

[@grandmagunsales2125]

📸That's going in the cringe compilation

[@Firecrob]

I miss the kinda realistic style they had in GW1. It was just a charming and cool idea to put them in more realistic neighborhoods and such. The artstyle in GW2 was... Ok. Not my favorite. But here it's so squishy cartoony, It just looks like plastic figures

[@osdadajr1307]

It's supposed to look cartoony, pvz was always a bit of a silly game.

[@Firecrob]

@@osdadajr1307 what you mean, it's supposed to look cartoony. Art style is not a question of the current age we live in and what's possible, it's a free choice by the art director from the game. If he wanted to make it look cartoony back then, they would have also succeeded with mostly the same style. But by putting them in this realistic environment with a bit of a cartoonish flair, the game knew that it was a "joke" with peashooters shooting Zombies but they still tried to make it look like other similar franchises, like Cod. Which in my opinion made it even more ridiculous and therefore better

[@ruziziocto1726]

@@Firecrob You if you call the artstyle in GW2 only …..Ok. Then YOU have a problem, the graphics were much better than GW1. Tho i admit BFN messed up those a bit but the best one in the series was DEFINITELY GW2, they should have just kept updating that. Also im annoyed that they made the Plants HQ a normal Manor in BFN cuz in GW2 it was much better it had this plant theme going with bush and wood walls and gates, huge trees, a tree house, plants… In BFN they made the HQ a normal manor it doesnt give the “plant” theme.

[@WalkingTNT]

GW2 was much more realistic than GW1

[@liddel137]

@@ruziziocto1726 well it's Dave manor

[@Abm289]

The game itself isn’t that bad, but when compared to GW2 it doesn’t stand a chance

[@faristurjman2134]

My exact complaint when i first played bfn

[@arthurcabral853]

Not only gw2, but also gw1

[@jacketbrother546]

Plus GW2 is online & offline

[@poltetteplayz]

This is the best explanation of bfn

[@jfoster8624]

@Brenda Stead it really doesn't bro gw2 is online and offline and the gnome trials were hella fun and rewarding to get the goat and torchwood.

[@jonnyolson]

Gw2 holds a very special place in my heart, and I had so much disappointment going into this one😔 i hope they go back to updating gw1 and 2

[@An_Entire_Lime]

I hope they remaster the first one, that'd be a dream come true, though knowing EA they might just drop the franchise knowing the path of least resistance wont cut it with GW

[@SpinningTurtle66]

Agreed. These games always remind me of a summer day for some reason, and they were always a blast. Hopefully we get Garden Warfare 3.

[@xmegade]

Gw2 is trash

[@An_Entire_Lime]

@@xmegade your opinion is trash

[@xmegade]

@@An_Entire_Lime thank u

[@44CRath]

Another MASSIVE problem with BFN is the lack of damage drop off. It makes the characters to similar. Gw2 used damage drop off to give certain characters different roles and play styles. For example In GW2 Citron does low chip damage from far, showing players that he excels at close to medium range, as his damage is more significant the closer your target it. Damage drop off also makes longer range characters such as cacti shine as they are specifically designed for sniping.

[@retrospine]

Its funny how a lot of people still play gw2 after 4 years, but its only been 1 year since battle for nieghborville released, and almost no one plays it anymore.

[@nothingofinterest8048]

I’m thinking of playing GW2 again is it’s player base similar in size to a year ago?

[@sminocha5528]

Yes it is

[@nothingofinterest8048]

@@sminocha5528 if that was @ to me ty.

[@SuddenStrike_HQ]

@@nothingofinterest8048 Everyone is still playing heck today a community event started, come join us

[@catsans8667]

@@SuddenStrike_HQ they still support the game?

[@societyman7526]

What scares me the most about this game’s failure is that they might pull a Chibi-Robo and blame the game’s failures not on their own programming and marketing, but rather people are just tired of PvZ shooters. I hope they realized their flaws and actually gain the guts to make another one

[@gameguin6113]

I mean we know popcap listens to their fans, they legit took down pvz 3 to make changes according to our feedback, so I wouldn’t worry too much, if they just understand what we want they’ll do it, and if they know that we’re going to pay for all of it EA may gave them the time they need to make the game because they want money.

[@donovanjoseph737]

God, I hope they try again at some point. GW2 is damn near a masterpiece IMO and this game was clearly rushed by EA to reach deadlines and monetization goals. They could surely hit another home run if they just took their time and gave it their all again

[@societyman7526]

@@gameguin6113I’m back to tell you this aged like milk left in the refrigerator for years on wnd

[@Spingus33]

The real problem with the multi-player is that each character is way too limited to its own abilities. In the other 2 games, you could have a unique experience each time with the same character, but here you need to use a class you're not used to using just to not get bored. Also, for no reason, they removed characters within the classes. Why exactly? Who the hell knows lmao

[@squongo645]

Having 2 secret characters in gw2 was an awesome addition and made me super interested in the missions

[@bigspork4220]

It feels like there was a lack of love when compared to the other ones

[@gameguin6113]

And a lack of time as well probably, EA isn’t exactly giving much time with release dates, it releases that day or else it won’t exist, this is why Nintendo make such great games, they aren’t afraid to take a longer time developing a game just to make it it’s absolute best.

[@Deathmare235]

@@gameguin6113 too bad they’re falling into common practices with Pokemon now

[@bobbyboo22_]

And budget (thanks ea)

[@BiocellGamingBababooey]

Personally, I think Bfn is a Ok game on its own, but Compared to Its predecessors, its kind of bad.

[@emailzack2177]

Agreed if it did not have the bar too high it could have done better

[@pelagornis5290]

i love playing this game with my brother but... its just missing something maybe my brother makes it wayyyy funner

[@AbsoluteUnit333]

@@pelagornis5290 It's missing: sticker packs, an actual challenging garden ops, a reason to get money, a reason to level up, character variants, good customisations, and good maps. That's not everything but those my main problems with it.

[@fredbearbutters5609]

@@AbsoluteUnit333”Its missing a reason to level up.” What? You literally unlock different upgrades for leveling up. Unless your talking about stuff after master?

[@Sleepy_Cabbage]

Imagine if they made a public endless mode for garden ops, like you can join this one garden ops anytime but it goes on forever

[@chickfalley4205]

How would that work like on what round or would it repeat?

[@roc154ldn5]

This game Is shit gw2 is better and that came out years ago very disappointing

[@bredbug5891]

@@roc154ldn5 i think its nice tbh

[@chickfalley4205]

@play gray you made me laugh when you said this isn't COD 😂 and your idea at the end sounds really interesting, and being able to control the AI's sounds cool too

[@chickfalley4205]

@play gray its funny cus I just came from a Bo2 Zombies video, and maybe people will do it to grind XP

[@cristianjim2188]

I strongly disliked the running, people would get shot once and start running and you would have to chase them.

[@icicle_ai9748]

Cactus didn't need a dash, he's a far range guy

[@modernwarrior24]

Exactly. Everyone would just run away the second they got shot and hide. Ruined it.

[@g______balll6674]

@@icicle_ai9748 fun fact the cactus is a girl

[@icicle_ai9748]

@@g______balll6674well then

[@eroxatic]

I like sprint for faster mobility but fuck I hate ppl running

[@theorangesheep8704]

The one thing. The ONE thing that I believe could’ve fixed my two BIGGEST problems is if they added more variety. The reason I LOVED GW2 is because the variety in all the characters. If they added the “sub-classes” back in then more people would play it because it has more variety and re-playability. More people play then there are actual people in the best game mode aka battle dome

[@mochadrawss]

In my opinion, this game suffered in PVP but nailed it's PVE. I find it hard to even go back to the game knowing that I won't play it for more then 30 minutes because the PVP is so boring and annoying compared to GW2 that it frustrates me, and I feel like that's more of EA's fault then it is Popcap. While Popcap did make some questionable decisions, EA definitely just wanted it for the money and wanted it fast, and I feel as if they made some of those questionable decisions, especially sprinting. Overall, if EA gave Popcap time for this game it definitely could have been way more successful but sadly that was not the case. It sucks that there is basically no future for this franchise either, or at least one that doesn't seem present as EA just threw the game in the garbage and I have no clue what is going on with PVZ3. If you want a good PVZ experience, play the 2nd versions of both the mobile and GW games. Anyways fuck you EA you really fucked over a franchise with your own garbage decisions.

[@rishabhmulay5230]

Imo, the first 2D PVZ game was the best because it didn’t have micro transactions

[@eugeniuszoleszczak6333]

They added ads to PVZ 1 not anymore The best

[@rishabhmulay5230]

@@eugeniuszoleszczak6333 Only in the free version of PVZ, in the paid version (I think it’s been unlisted) there are no ads. I am on iOS so if you use Android things may be different

[@jekxel9000]

so fucking true

[@IHateRecess]

EA must be stopped they keep ruining franchises

[@TheAnimeHistorian220]

Ngl, im kinda sad that EA isn't doing anything interesting with the franchise and is just milking it for what its worth, i wish PvZ3 could just be as funny and with as much soul as Pvz1 and in some ways PvZ2, but instead we just got a worse version of GW2 that dies on the spot and a clash royale clone...

[@prismacan7752]

PopCap (Seattle) actually put out an announcement recently that said that they were completely reworking PvZ3 after reviewing A LOT of player feedback. (If only Vancouver got that idea first)

[@mjsimmons4020]

Yeah there gonna fix PvZ 3 don’t worry

[@ericwijaya2119]

Makes you wish you have candles to light to burn their office doesnt it

[@patriciam1932]

What Clash Royale clone

[@bluetoad2813]

@@patriciam1932 pvz 3

[@trentfowler1335]

This whole game reeks of the developers being rushed and budget-squeezed. All too common these days in the industry... To be clear, these issues are rarely ever caused by the developers. It's the publisher that is the problem almost every time. And with an all-star publisher with such good customer faith like EA, I can't IMAGINE who's to blame.

[@sammoss2329]

Hop off pop caps meat

[@CrocodileWhispers]

I got the opposite feeling. I felt like this game was very polished and i definitely felt like they poured their heart and soul into it.

[@e-goose2473]

This game took out variants, WHY

[@charliefunk3309]

Probably because the trailer and the game got leak, and they were worried that they would expose the hole game. So maybe they didn't had time to add variants, and just rushed it. (Just sayin')

[@AndrewwWilson]

Money.

[@goofassjigga9715]

@@AndrewwWilson what😂

[@arthurcabral853]

@@AndrewwWilson what...?

[@candidlearner3191]

@@AndrewwWilson The Variants made them so much money idk what your talking about.

[@altereddistortion3983]

As someone who loves the PVZ franchise, It hurt me to stop playing this game as much, I just played it once after months and didn’t touch it again Just went back to PVZ GW2 and had many more times the fun

[@thatonereddish4009]

I really love plants vs zombies 1 the other franchise made by ea no no no

[@thatonereddish4009]

GW2 good either

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

@@NargacugaMyBeloved PC Version is dead

[@NargacugaMyBeloved]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 I checked and found out the servers just went out for some time. Pc servers are back up and full

[@ΟΑυγολεμονος]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 Yeah unfortunately. It seems it's even more dead than gw 1 which I really really don't understand considering it's better. Shame because I bought it like 2 days ago

[@Motherlesstripod]

If there is ever a GW3, I hope they can use the new classes added in this as inspo. I can personally see a ton of really cool variants being added to a lot of the characters while also modifying them to be versatile. This had a great base but it was a tall tower made of cardboard during a rainstorm

[@generalgrevious447]

I feel like this game (as most games are doing nowadays) tried to be too “kid friendly” and what I mean by that is cartoony, easy to get good with a certain character, not to much skill has to be put into a class to be good. The game is too bright and Popcap just assumed that the only people that would play it are little kids that have way of knowing that this cool skin/item is worth more than their dog. I’m only thirteen but I can remember the first time I beat pvz1 with my mom on a summer afternoon and it saddens me that it’s come to this. PvzGW2 was a great game in my opinion, and I even liked pvz2 more than the first (yeah yeah). I can remember disliking gw2 when it first came out and slowly getting into it because of how good they made it, and now Im laughing at myself for thinking that it was bad at all, even when accounting for the flaws.

[@josuevillalon1896]

That's sad bro hopefully they save their game

[@gameguin6113]

I personally enjoy that they went with a more cartoony art style, it’s where the series got it’s roots from (pun not intended) just look at the first game, would you say it looks more gw2 or bfn, it’s definitely a cartoony game which just show bfn is staying more closer to the original roots in art style, which I just appreciate more, just because it’s cartoony doesn’t mean it’s meant for kids, at this point popcap knows that it’s pvz games attract a wide audience filled with many different ages from 5 to 50 (maybe even more), I see it more as just trying something new, and personally, the art style just looks better (repeating myself because that’s what they taught me in school when trying to make a point).

[@moth4434]

@@gameguin6113 to be honest I’m glad they went with something different as there is always the two sides of the fandom that want something new or want the original and they decided to change it up and I love what they did with it

[@Riverrocks777]

I like how bfn looks better but crazy Dave is a little weird

[@Bubble_Nugget]

Even youtube is being too kit friendly

[@thatoneweirdrandomguy4766]

This game did have potential,I’ll give it that,new characters,the possibility of variants being added back in,and other things were hinted at and I am really sad to see popcap just discontinue it with it being different than gw1 and gw2. Yes it had mixed reviews but what it had in the game already and what was hinted had potential. Rip bfn. I mean I preferred gw1 and gw2 than bfn and it is sad to hear of it

[@bruv7521]

Character variants, ehh, The cosmetics look very fancy and variant-like so i doubt it. :( Also if they do adds variants it would be a very very big update

[@vilzupuupaa4680]

Variants were never going to be added. They are just too big of a thing to put as an update.

[@jjwilliams410]

Agreed potential was incredible. Such a shame. However Mario Pvz Community manager has said if we get BFN as popular as Among Us (No chancee that this will happen but OK) they will consider reviving Bfn.

[@Tidasilva-sy3hb]

They need to do a GW3

[@jjwilliams410]

@@Tidasilva-sy3hb If they can....

[@KewlKirbster]

man this was the first game that I supported since the beta and had a ton of hope and was heartbroken when they said they’d stop supporting it, my first game letdown 😔

[@aldegator]

"there hasn't been an update since march!" tf2 fans "first time?"

[@dokitachi]

geometry dash fans: AMATEURS!

[@ride245]

As a fan of both. I can confirm the community doesn't care about updates because its still fun

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

smissmas 2020 called

[@aldegator]

@@xtdycxtfuv9353 ok

[@kosog6584]

And they still plead overwatch is dead. LELELELELELELEL

[@sussy3778]

4:23 You can't spell "ignorant" without IGN.

[@hammic1569]

IGN being idiots, what else is new?

[@azurnal7573]

@Thiago Rodrigues Tenório where's the e in microtransactions?

[@mr.floof3790]

This game I feel is a really good game on its own(without comparing it with gw and gw2 but even then it's still an ok game) and plus the switch port I feel is amazing but I miss packs and the diffiernt character variants and I wish team vanquish was its own game mode but they do a cycle with battle arena so it balances itself out mostly and private play is good if you want to play something without having bots in your lobbies then just put the gamemode you want on crazy or hard then it feels like you are just playing a regular lobby

[@-zsh]

one big problem was the "no character sub-classes" idea, but half the character upgrades, not to mention the legendary upgrades, was a major contradiction

[@-zsh]

edit was a spelling error

[@_G.C]

Apparently there's a plethora of people that don't want variants in the game. I don't get why though, because that's extra content, and replayability

[@kinbagecabbage667]

@@_G.C I guess people hate electro pea that much.

[@-zsh]

@@_G.C i wouldnt mind if they took out varients if they stood by it instead of having work arounds. either varients or not, not saying this but doing that, ya know?

[@CJ-just-CJ]

I'm kinda fine with no variants. Thing is, the removal musy have been to expand variety within each character without being limited, or so I think. I did like the idea of variants, nonetheless.

[@wumbowoody436]

The art team for this game did an amazing job, I wish the rest of the team was as skilled.

[@spongebobplushiestuff8612]

The trailer team did

[@Somthindnsjsjjsj]

@@spongebobplushiestuff8612 that’s the art team

[@bugenthusiast8892]

@@Somthindnsjsjjsj Well it's the marketing team and the art team working together.

[@gameguin6113]

No it was all the team that was skilled, EA just gave them a strict as hell time limit as they always do, I mean look at their sport games, the teams can barely pack in a new feature without almost running out of time, good games with good graphics takes more than 1 year to make, this game probably only got 2 years, so they probably couldn’t add what they wanted to, I mean they had to make new models to fit the new art style, which also means new models for the variations, but they need to add all the characters they wanted first which requires tons of planning, I mean the simple snapdragon blazing blue ability probably took weeks to come up with and balance and all the little fancy stuff.

[@peckypork]

@@gameguin6113 yeah, EA is fucking demonic

[@whitebr1350]

Honestly, as lazy a concept the swarm classes were, I love playing the Wildflower. There's something great about being able to use a respawn point to put more pressure on an objective, plus the grenade and dandelion abilities were cool.

[@JustCallMeHeavy]

Good execution?

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@JustCallMeHeavy Yep. The swarm classes are a great example of a shitty/lazy concept, but great and fun execution.

[@colonelsuperior3805]

Didn’t EA fire most of popcap and left only newcomers to make this game? I know I heard that somewhere

[@nonyabuisness3560]

makes sense

[@user-mn7uo9ch4b]

they even fired the dude THAT MADE pvz

[@nonyabuisness3560]

@@user-mn7uo9ch4b sorry what

[@handrup5441]

@@nonyabuisness3560 He was fired in late 2017 due to the fact that he didnt want PvZ2 to be freemium

[@nonyabuisness3560]

@@handrup5441 oh of course

[@marcbachinger908]

Phew.. I thought I were the only one that loved Garden ops in Gw1

[@shooby9496]

Same. I lavished this game with absolute hours of my time in OPs... only ever stopping for real life obligations.

[@MysticGacha]

Honestly i really like the more "Cheerful" or "bright" environment in BFN over the Dark and Gloomy one in GW2 but other than that i'd much prefer GW2 mainly with the Variants and Abilities... it'd be great to see GW2 continue to be Updated and honestly i personally wouldn't mind the New Characters from BFN in GW2 (However i haven't actually played the game so idk) but as long as they keep the The Heal Flower and Heal Station (Ability) I won't really mind what they do... (Mainly cause i'm the type of person who just enjoys a game for what it is ;-;)

[@_XDan]

Exactly what I've been looking for.

[@drmangler6475]

Wanna hear something funny, you can still find big lobbies in GW2. I just want a GW3.

[@BillyisAmongUs]

if it does not have character variants I am not buying it

[@liquid_gasoline8220]

@@BillyisAmongUs exactly, I really don’t understand why they took out character variations, like Toxic Pea and Yeti Chomper, I loved it

[@sackboydjso]

Well, in consoles GW2 is good, but in PC is like the one who more OP hacks wins

[@Mah11ro]

bruh a gw2 pc port would have a higher player count in a day than the peak of neighborville

[@sackboydjso]

@@Mah11ro but Gw2 is already on PC

[@tackwardsfongjump1800]

Am I the only one who remembers that the trailer for this game was leaked early?

[@tatomcnohit]

Nope, you are not the only one

[@sciencegnf]

I honestly didn't expect for pvz to take on this route, i thought they would just stick with their original game.

[@killagram5371]

It’s kind of crazy that this game was abandoned by players after only a year, but I can still consistently find full lobbies on the original GW. Man that was a great game.

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

yeah could you imagine a remaster with improved graphics and maps?

[@coppagh8040]

Honestly, they should remaster GW1’s graphics and add the newer characters from GW2 and BFN. GW1 was the best game, having the best maps of the 3 in my opinion. I can’t pinpoint why but i just don’t like GW2 and BFN’s maps.

[@killagram5371]

@@coppagh8040 Why remaster it? Just play the original game. It still holds up.

[@coppagh8040]

@@killagram5371 Remastering it would: - fix the bugs in the game - lets be real it can get janky/glitchy at times - update the graphics - add the new characters for added replayability and diversity - allows Popcap to add extra content - will bring the original fanbase back again just to name a few. but i guess a gw3 could do all of this too

[@ethanmcneill1941]

In gw1 I wanted to be Zombies but never play online but in gw2 my dream was fulfilled Also, I kinda like BFN because I like trying all characters

[@kaliberkam0681]

U know what I have found out? I feel like this pvz game was leaning towards a rpg/ campaign perspective with the option of playing multiplayer, you even get upgrades after ranking up your character based on your characters strength and weakness I just really want this whole game to be a campaign with everything thought out with the multiplayer because let's be honest you were not bored while playing the pve regions overall if this was just a game like that pvz game rpg that was coming out which I feel like this game was an experiment for an rpg

[@KalebLFC]

exactly. and when you look at the game from that angle they did a pretty good job. i think it would've been stupid to make a game with the same graphics and functions 3 times in a row so i think i can understand why they chose this theme for pvz gw3.

[@Aiden.G]

I didn’t even know this game existed

[@untakenuser8657]

Don’t get it

[@Sam_Ray]

The three main reasons why I dropped this game: - All classes being able to sprint was not a good idea in my opinion - No variants - Most of the character designs sucked in my opinion (The peashooter and engineer were especially disappointing)

[@leokab4841]

You forget the fact that you can now see enemies health its not huge but it prevented killstealers though i agree 100% with what you said

[@alafsantos9942]

Peashooter is very cuty in bfn

[@yamerooouwu455]

The peashooter suck

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

i don't like the peashooters design

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

The All Star looks so awful in bfn. Poor lad.

[@Jayek7]

Gw2 lobbies in nutshell Morning: dead Afternoon: ALiVee Night: last breaths

[@elmosarmata9561]

You mean BFN

[@markchik.8731]

@@elmosarmata9561 No, Garden Warfare 2. I literally played for like, 3 days in a row and it's exactly like that.

[@SnoFitzroy]

that's when I switch my server to one in which the time is the middle of the day (in the morning, that's europe for me, at night, that's Asia) Leads to lots of lag, but the matchmaking is faster and the lag is my fault for playing at inopportune times lol

[@Jayek7]

@@SnoFitzroy thats smart

[@mansifacio5458]

@@elmosarmata9561 nah, that's always dead

[@blandpotato545]

I’m so glad someone lived garden warfare 2 as much as I did. I was a small kid and didn’t play online much, but ops was one of my favorite. I loved defending and played it non-stop. I’ve never played this game, but I love revisiting 2 from time to time

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

I actually like the character designs from gw2 more. The new ones just look kinda plastic.

[@MARSHMALLOWchomper]

Agree

[@muchneededwater5936]

Honestly they did my peashooter dirty with the redesigns

[@romulo7303]

@@muchneededwater5936 honestly imo peashooter looks a LOT better now, before he looked like ...idk what to say

[@muchneededwater5936]

@@romulo7303 I guess it’s to personal preferences but I liked to old one since it was simple like the first PvZ game. Also those eyes look like they’re staring into your soul all the time lol.

[@falendemo546]

Ace_ofchaos --- I think it's because of terrible lightning Battle for Neighborville (and Cyberpunk 2077) has.

[@JahGotWings]

No wonder I didn’t know this game existed! They released it the moment they announced it! I was still playing GW2

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

My biggest problem with this game is the balancing, some maps are way easier to defend then other , so for example any mision that involves transporting an object is usually annoying as fuck because half the time the enemy have a convenient camping ground to simply destroy your team and run out the clock or your team has less player to help defend and the enemy team plow you over from sheer numbers. Not to mention two of the purchaseable characters have miniature instant death bombs

[@metheguy1232]

they named nightcap after a character in pvz heroes but not electric slide, when electric boogaloo is literally a disco dancer with a lightening theme

[@SnoFitzroy]

Electric Slide is a female Zombie, Electric Boogaloo is a guy. I agree with the idea, I just wanted to point this out as a likely reason. They absolutely could have just made Electric Slide male though, and kept the Boogaloo name

[@gabito2647]

@@SnoFitzroy isnt nightcap ( heroes) male tho? And here its a she?

[@SnoFitzroy]

@@gabito2647 I didn't know BFN Nightcap was She/Her, I just assumed because the Heroes one is He/Him. This makes it even more confusing and stupid 🤦‍♂️

[@SoNotso]

Wait wtf ? This has been released a year ago ? Yoooo time flies so fast.

[@SoNotso]

Wait wtf ? This has been released a month ago ? Yoooo time flies so fast.

[@FernandoAlonso-cj6pr]

Why did you comment the same thing one month later

[@MOH-ph3qm]

@꧁Foxbread꧂ Lazuli wait wtf? this has been released 3 days ago? yooo time flies so fast

[@unknownn274]

@꧁Foxbread꧂ Lazuli wait wtf ? This has been released 1 day ago? Yoooo time flies so fast.

[@kronix3315]

@꧁Foxbread꧂ Lazuli wait wtf? This has been released 8 hours ago? Yoooo times flies so fast.

[@oerlikon20mm29]

I still love GW2, have been playing it since the open beta and am still not finished fully progressing through it… I never even heard of this game till now, I’m just upset that when they finally added a mushroom character, they added it in the worst game of the franchise

[@emder1323]

I like how the gameplay lags every 10seconds 😂

[@Rhino8315]

The fact that plants went on for monthssss without having the same amount of characters as zombies is isanity. And to think that even now they still wont be equal is crazy.

[@sackboydjso]

Oh boy, BFN have like 4 unused characters, and more characters that we're planned.

[@sackboydjso]

Like 10 more characters we're planned, and Iceberg lettuce is finished, but it never make into legal Game. I said legal Game because with hacks is totally functional

[@nameless_milk_1624]

BFN is honestly a lot of fun, mostly just bc I hang out with my friends in plants vs zombies, it's a lot of fun.

[@3l_s0l0_l0b0]

Same

[@AnujSharma-ds4oi]

can you please give me code for downloading this game please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ribir1382]

10:29 “We have every character from garden warfare 2 returning” Over goat and torchwood:

[@sackboydjso]

Well, is not that Bad they not came back. Torchwood was TOO OP, but it evolved in Oak. Over goat.... It's, ¿Good?, Maybe it evolved to wizard. Probably over goat was good to came back. But torchwood was REALLY OP, and BFN just doesn't have very balanced characters.

[@ribir1382]

I wanted over goat :(ñ

[@sackboydjso]

@@ribir1382 yeah, the goat was balanced

[@Cameron0001]

Hover goat was kind of trash, torchwood was over powered

[@sackboydjso]

@@Cameron0001 yeah, But the over goat maybe be part of the support gang, his work is helping the teamates, not go alone 🤣

[@morshu3323]

Contrary to all the negativity towards this game Im really enjoying it must say Edit: if EA didn’t cut funding for this game, I do believe it could’ve been an absolute masterpiece but sadly there just aren’t enough players anymore and yes it seems like every night I get in a lobby with the same few folks..

[@pyritepanx]

It’s cool but it has so many shite mechanics... and the devs really.. REALLY don’t care for this game

[@omo7002]

@@pyritepanx ok that part about the devs not caring is bullshit, there is so much in the files that got scrapped/isn't finished because support got pulled early. Would these changes have made it the best pvz shooter? Probably not, but they still looked really fun.

[@scottayelmao6560]

The more you play the more brain cells you loose

[@lardlover3730]

@@pyritepanx Yeah...

[@pyritepanx]

@@omo7002 nah I mean like the people controlling the game and what goes or not. The ice bloom looked so cool and the BFN team said nope

[@mr.markstar]

Me in September 2019 : “Man, GW2’s servers are probably gonna die when the full game releases-“ BFN : *Releases and exists* Me : “So anyway, I started playing the 2 better games.”

[@BugsRCool499]

16:11 i have just realized how adorable the baby ice shroom is

[@MamutaBCU]

I literally bought it

[@BugsRCool499]

@@MamutaBCU how

[@MamutaBCU]

@@BugsRCool499 Oops meant to say took a picture of it, Autocorrect sucks and I was tired

[@Narvalo_Lastar]

@@MamutaBCU autocorrect was really high thrn

[@Elite_Biscuit_1]

@@Narvalo_Lastar looks like autocorrect wasn’t in your favor

[@grassinio4106]

The absolute deal breaker for me was them erasing sub classes from the game. As soon as I saw that Cosmic Brainz wasn't a thing I was like "Aight, imma head out."

[@crampedturtle]

I guess it’s your opinion but out of all the variants COSMIC BRAINZ is the one you’re sad about

[@grassinio4106]

@@crampedturtle I totally understand you. There's a lot more popular subclasses out there that people besides me liked. It makes me sad to see that taken away from everyone in the GW2 community that loved that massive variety of characters.

[@Dayashii]

The only good thing about getting rid of sub classes was getting rid of toxic pea

[@kylecrane3296]

I really like cozmic brainz.

[@ilyashuster3447]

Marine biologist :(

[@rice7676]

After playing this and seeing an overall opinion on the game I feel like I'm the only one who likes this game i find it hard to go back to gw2 as I don't play most of the characters I wish popcap added nightcap and all the characters to gw2 instead that would make it one of the best shooters even though it already is fantastic

[@nob3826]

yea me like bfn better im not a fan of pvz gw2

[@Best_Ship_Ever]

doing that...... would be kinda (really) unbalanced, in gw2 the variants are still there, meaning that chars from bfn like nightcap would have to get some variants too, and it wouldn't make eany sense, maybe they could do that on pvz heroes (well nightcap it's ''kinda'' added )

[@Tyfighter4567]

Same here, I like both games about the same.

[@aidantesdahl4283]

I got this game from the start. I thought that, without the variants, they might give us more classes. One advantage over GW2 was a higher skill ceiling for each class. But in the whole time, we got .......... ONE CHARACTER THE WHILE YEAR!? AND THEY JUST FORGOT ABOUT ICEBERG LETTUS! NEVER FINISHED HER! I feel like that killed the game for me.

[@Sanikusama]

There was ice berg lettuce who seemed almost finished. Seriously, they had her character model finished and fully animated. Then there was another plant who was in the game files and seemed to at least have a model who never got finished. It’s so damn sad

[@Caliburnz]

It’s a fun game but I kind of wish it was more like garden warfare

[@cadenerfvlogs2406]

They wanted to go in a different route and I admired that but they took it in the wrong route

[@mrwaffles3106]

@@cadenerfvlogs2406 i wouldn’t consider it the wrong route as I personally found it kinda fun but more of a mediocre job at navigating the route i.e bad presentation,lack of progress,and mediocre balancing (Reminds me of gw1 because although the game was glitchy,unbalanced,and lacked content it still did well because of the presentation,constant updates, and it offered more content than bfn at launch)

[@thecritic5284]

When they put out the final update that killed the game if they put out more character customization and also more content would make that would make the game a lot better

[@retrooffroadBR]

I wish EA never bought PopCap.

[@thecritic5284]

@@retrooffroadBR Think of it this way if EA new bought Pop Cap we would have never gotten Garden Warfare 1 or 2 and we wouldn’t have battle for neighborville either

[@SKiBOiDawah]

The fact that they've added proper eyes to the peashooter gave me the creeps

[@mrpig404]

“We have everyone from garden warfare 2 returning” Hover goat and Torchwood: :(

[@camrynolivia2996]

f

[@darthjenkins5219]

F

[@gameguin6113]

Torchwood returned as the weakest boss in the game, seriously that guys legit paper, or a person who’s about to be paper cut and your entire team is paper, seriously feels like all they did was add extra health and no damage upgrades or anything, or giving it a smart ai which I think it really needed cause it just uses fire breath, whenever it feels like it, leaving it wide open for attacks.

[@vibriribbon3323]

10:09 ah yes, a man of culture I see

[@tommyroddenberry66]

Where's the comments

[@gamingforcookies2448]

I think the worst part is the lack of variants. Why did they remove them. :(

[@endmii3912]

My main problem was the lack of balancing to characters and spawn points in maps. In the payload mission with the shipwrecks the plants get a shit shield for spawn. You can kill plants when they're in the shield as the bombegranate is outside the front and the Zombie team will take that over and the plants can't make a movement.

[@SpinningTurtle66]

Garden Warfare 1 and 2 remind me of a summer day, and that’s a really nice image to have. BFN is just corporate greed, I hope we get a GW3 because these games are really special.

[@YoYoBobbyJoe]

It's a really fun game! I don't understand people's gripes to be perfectly honest. It's way more fun than most modern shooters like it. Overwatch 2 doesn't hold a candle to it.

[@theman7571]

80s action hero is op when you know what your doing

[@gameguin6113]

That’s every character, if you need proof just look at tv head and wildflower, even without the extra health upgrades they’re still destroying everything and can still live.

[@grandmagunsales2125]

TV head was the only zombie with a melee to finish off low healthed enemies, it looks beautiful but could it be... a gateway to suicide punching?

[@bluebomber875]

This game had everything it needed to be good, but whenever I played it, I always felt like it was missing something. I don’t know if it was missing the magic or what but it just couldn’t hold my attention very long.

[@DarthTalon5]

The game had everything it needed to be good. Except 1 thing. There was a better still readily available, older entry.

[@puppymonkey]

Missing variants

[@birdbird6363]

He forgot about the raiding the PvZ bases in backyard battle grounds and spawning a lot of bosses to kill.

[@JustAlfred3]

For the first 2 or 3 months I enjoyed this game, then played gw2 again and was instantly like, why didn't bfn have this In it?

[@grimendstone]

Ops was the bomb. You got to chill with friends and it’s so satisfying to pull of crazy more.

[@gameguin6113]

Ops is terrible now, which is a sad sad tale, I wish there was anyways I could defend it like with sprinting, but I just can’t other than it’s a version of ops that came after some even better versions of ops.

[@fishingrod2253]

@@gameguin6113 im still questioning why tf did they make it 5 waves? So that the children don't get bored? Also removing the difficulty options is absolute bullshit

[@T-Bone_SSteak]

The weird thing is that the mechanics of shooting felt good. And the graphics were nice, and the new characters were fun (despite what the video says) in my opinion even if it was annoying to fight night cap. The variants, and everything else in the video shows where Popcap went wrong. Hopefully if we get a pvzgw3, they keep the good stuff and move on. And honestly i loved that battleground mode.

[@nicolasanael1947]

Having hype is so important, that even though I am a pvz fan, the way I discovered pvzbfn was by a random foekoe video (which was recomended because i watched channels like his, not because of pvz), that was talking about the game, and after that i searched and found out what the game was, the word is overused but this is definitly a bruh momento.

[@mplvt2928]

I deadass barely found it last week by scrolling the playstation store that's what happens when theres not hype, call of duty black ops 4 didnt hype up their first dlc and not many people played it, that just shows how important it is

[@rulamantic]

Here to mention that sometimes in the overworld it just resets and says "host stopped the session" and you're either reset with your lads in utter confusion or you lose online allies entirely and it all turns into Wildflower and TV Head NPCs/COMs I-wh-ITS AN OVERWORLD. WHY in the everloving HADES does the Overworld, your MENU, crash?!

[@kurtisgoodrich1599]

Yes this thing people do pisses me off

[@JustSomeone41296]

I personally loved BFN, yes I was upset they removed the character variants and was a bit unsure on why there was a perk system, and ultimately despised night cap in any way possible as both plant and Zombie, I bought the game on its Beta so I was a founding neighbor for the 2nd week, I loved the game and still do, despite only playing Turf Takeover endlessly since it's my personal favorite game mode, but mainly I enjoyed it since I was honestly starved of something new, I still play GW2 and I'm getting the things I needed done on there but mainly when I saw leaked footage of the game I was assuming it's a fan game, to only see it in action, I still enjoy the game and I still wish they did it right in some ways, I do hope they make another in it's style and bring back what made the others in the series enjoyable and replayable

[@discontinuedChannel4ever]

Me: I love snapdragon PvZ Battle for neighborVille: let’s make snapdragon glitchy! Lol Me: there is only one part about snapdragon that’s glitchy PvZ Battle for neighborville: I don’t care

[@Otterlier]

Tbh the only glitchy part with snap is his blue blazes and how it doesn’t work while jumping, but other than that it’s fine

[@discontinuedChannel4ever]

Ok

[@kryo4491]

When you jump, the blue blazes go and hit the ground, it's been in the game since the beginning, just don't jump then your fine

[@Otterlier]

@@kryo4491 actually I think that’s been somewhat fixed in the last update

[@lance2580]

Guys, since PopCap is porting this game to the Switch, I say that we have hope that we can convince them to fix the game before it launches.

[@bebraotchima]

interesting fact:trailer of pvz bfn came out on my birth day

[@Rosa_0000]

I just hope that BFN wasn't the death of PvZ shooters, and that Popcap now knows what NOT to do for a unlikely future GW title.

[@justyouraveragecarbonbased5340]

Well, now that PvZ3 is underway after PvZ2 there might actually be hope for essentially a GW3.

[@admiraldesto2170]

When I heard this game had no variants, that was the killer for me. Overwatch is dying because you can only play the classes one way. Same thing with the heros in this game. The variants already fixed that problem and were relatively balanced, so why did they remove them? Why didn’t they add them in later updates? Idk, popcap is long passed its golden days

[@wrathofthewitchqueen]

Overwatch isn't dying If it is it has 10 years then lol

[@admiraldesto2170]

@@wrathofthewitchqueen It’s player count is significantly lower than 2016 and 2017 and most of the playerbase is dissatisfied with its developers. My own opinion tho

[@wrathofthewitchqueen]

@@admiraldesto2170 Nah they'll shut up once OW2 is out. Just wait till then Some won't come back even when OW2 is out and that's okay. No game will keep people satisfied forever

[@user-Tod-The-Toadster]

@@wrathofthewitchqueen it's called super mario bros

[@TheTrueUltimateGenLifeform]

I’ve been killed by kamikaze Deadbreads. Like he is a sniper yes, but given the right upgrades, he is Sonic the Hedgehog. I have never been scared of a Deadbeard that much before, next to ones who can land headshots.

[@genarftheunfuni5227]

I don't really mind the variant removal, since that helped the devs to make upgrades more significant, since in GW 2, they barely even mattered for most of the variants.

[@gebbo7721]

EA: making games amazing and then hot garbage since well uh i dunno

[@TuckyBlue]

Around 2015

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

ever since activison started putting loot boxes in call of duty

[@UGMD]

I agree with most of your points but I’d like to add that on pc sometimes the lobby is full yet other times it’s completely empty

[@GarfieldWithAHat]

Im 2 years late. But i just got back into the game recently. I think its a good game. I definitely didnt think that 2 years ago, because i literally had a total playtime of like an hour. I quit being level 12. Something just didnt feel right, i also didnt like GW2, either, i prefered GW1. Now 2, years later ive switched between both games and can say thry are definitely good. I hope BFN gets a revival. Or a new GW game comes out

[@CrackedVinyl21]

I think the reason the game was revealed and released on the same day was because an early version of the trailer was leaked 2 or 3 months prior. They knew it was leaked because videos of it were being struck down by ea. I think they didn't wait to release the game because they just assumed everyone saw the leaked trailer already and went "screw it", and just released the game the same day it was revealed

[@luckyrafelael]

Correct!

[@NeonGSP]

I remember PvZ picnic lol. PopCap let me in it

[@fishingrod2253]

@@NeonGSP oooooh yeah. I got scared it was gonna be called like that xdd

[@Kirkland-Consumer]

I really liked ops too, it was also my favorite game mode in gw2. God I miss variants so much

[@ilovecontroversy6940]

I feel as if I'm the only one who loves this game but I absolutely have a blast playing it but I do agree that having the fire flower and the different variants is disappointing especially the dolphin blaster but I think that the upgrade system is very good, garden ops does suck because it's over before you can even enjoy it, 5 rounds isn't enough but I mainly just play team vanquish it's fun.

[@owmybigtoe659]

I bought this game on release I regretted it

[@Immadeus]

Complete waste of money.

[@owmybigtoe659]

I was so excited because I loved the series I literally got a PS4 to play gw2 but this was such a disappointment

[@owmybigtoe659]

Ovite that’s fine Everyone can have an opinion I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@sync6804]

i like the current state of bfn, but this state will get boring now that it has been abandoned

[@user-qh3nc2yl7o]

I bought it when it was 30$ and it was founders edition i completly rgretted it

[@specialism640]

BFN lead me back to the PvZ series, it will have a special place in my heart

[@gameguin6113]

Bfn is the game that just has the most potential and the best looking graphics in the series, but it just falls flat at corporate greed.

[@Roll3er]

The game on switch seems to have a good player base of new and old players. And it seems to be a lot more refined only issue it is hard to see where players are from a far due to the graphics but it’s still fun to play