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@toothlessthedragon5100
@toothlessthedragon5100 Жыл бұрын
If your trauma is so bad that it is triggered by being targeted in combat or health potions costing money, DND is not the game for you.
@DrFranklynAnderson
@DrFranklynAnderson Жыл бұрын
Yeah, try Call of Cthulhu instead! 😜
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
I would pay money to watch that guy go thru boot camp. It can even be Air Force Boot Camp. It would still be hillarious.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are some more light hearted rpgs out there to try. DnD has alot of combat and can have alot of tense situations. If that player is so traumatized that they just can't play unless they are babied throughout the campaign, then they need to either play something else, or find a DM who specializes in running for special needs.
@PaladinGear15
@PaladinGear15 Жыл бұрын
I bet he was trolling, one of those types who are like "snowflakes who use these cards are so annoying, I'm gonna show how annoying they are!", cuz who plays D&D and gets triggered by being attacked? Definitely a troll.
@Kepora1
@Kepora1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that player isn't traumatized, they're a lazy POS who needs to get a job.
@TigerKirby215
@TigerKirby215 Жыл бұрын
There's a difference between "railroading" and "following the adventure hook." Reminds me of what Crispy's Tavern says: "If you want to play Curse of Strahd, you have to go to Barovia." Similarly if you're going to revive the Adventurer's Guild you'll need a reason to be invested in the Adventurer's Guild.
@CrateringGod
@CrateringGod Жыл бұрын
The third story had me going - "Hold on, this whole operation was your idea!". Like come on, player gets pushed into a leader role and then gets punished for it? WTF?! Who does that?!
@mikaneko
@mikaneko Жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeeeeah, that DM was full of shit. I would have told him, "Oh, really? so now that your wife is the "main character" and "leading" the group, that means she's going to get crucified and melted too, right? And then drop that game like a hot potato after calling the wife out for her jealousness.
@tenshyklonik
@tenshyklonik Жыл бұрын
My second dm (a total jerk) maker overpowered DMnpc always making shit and then thenparty suffer the consecuences for em, all the time the DMnpc was a rogue
@PaladinGear15
@PaladinGear15 Жыл бұрын
A bit of railroading is always necessary for TTRPG's, in one-shots it's pretty much impossible to run without it xD
@paulman34340
@paulman34340 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't think problem cared about that I think problem just wanted to be a problem and an a****** Because he was fully aware this was one shot, The poster's mistake was just letting him get away with the homebrew class. Honestly I would have realized what he was trying to do and then pretty much illustrate how the guards attempt to get his character hes character runs in the woods then a bounty is pretty much placed up on him. I wouldn't let him get last word and he could just stay on the side or F*** off. I would then be spending the rest of the session pretty back to the original game With the other players. And dad more creative flavor I would give updates to what happened to problems character. Namely how miserable he is being on the run how hes being hunted down by f****** Rangers. Even roll dice to see if hes able to luckily Dodge them so then I can throw in a bounty hunter Because inevitably this is going to end with him being caught judged and then Executed in quick fashion. Well do it in such a nonchalant way and very quickly so it's not interruptive. I'm sure that will get back to him and I'm sure he'll be whining about it but I will Remind this was a one shot of course it was gonna be a bit railroad you knew this Going in yet you still tried to play the game of the problem player so you get the consequences What the h*** did you expect🤬
@PaladinGear15
@PaladinGear15 Жыл бұрын
@@paulman34340 Yeahhhh, honestly as soon as he showed up 10 minutes before the session and said "I'm playing a homebrew race and class" I'd just be like "you've wasted your own time, you're not playing today" xD
@paulman34340
@paulman34340 Жыл бұрын
@Dormaze You My friend are a good person compared to me I'm petty and spiteful And would have let him basically create how long the rope that hangs him would be! And do it in a way to not waste too much time. He wants to make a joke I'll make a joke too😈 Also screw him with that intense ear apology and then trying to Still play off that the poster was the bad guy with that oh I'll teach you c***. That's how you knew it was Insincere, And they start to wonder if this is a recurring thing with problem In that group where they simply tolerate him for the sake of an extra player And because hes their friend you know how much a parasite is a friend to its host which is none At all. That's why I get from this guy hes just a parasite who's part of that friend group It's rude and a****** but they tolerate him because they love hurting themselves. That's how I view some people who do this because I have my own individual who's like problem hes called my younger brother. And hes just full of narcissism and insincerity in this behavior with everybody in the family. The only smart one is our baby brother Who sees him for the piece of s*** he is I'm still affected by a promise I made when he was born when I was 5. However my sympathy is running low with this type so in essence if I have to deal with this as biological blood. I'm sure as h*** not dealing with a****** Who are not biologically connected to me the moment they're exposed as this they get less of my tolerance. To the point it's not existent
@Xylarxcode
@Xylarxcode Жыл бұрын
I recently did a haunted house themed oneshot and one of the players legit asked: 'What happens if I try to go into the neighbouring town?' To which I reponded: 'You'll find the sleepiest, most average town that has absolutely nothing special going on in it, other than this house, so unless you feel like asking farmers how their crops are growing or asking the innkeeper what tonight's special is (it's roasted chicken, btw), you best stick to this house.' He didn't catch on that I was joking and actually tried to do those things. The other players at the table talked him out of it and pointed out that I was being sarcastic and those weren't real options. Only the haunted house and its contents were prepared. Point being: never underestimate how gullible/stupid people can be. Well, that and sarcasm isn't always easy to tell for everyone.
@realdragon
@realdragon Жыл бұрын
And I would be careful with sandboxes because a lot of people have an idea that in sandbox you throw people ni the middle of nowhere and just ask them what they do
@lordruxlinhogie5912
@lordruxlinhogie5912 Жыл бұрын
The moment the DM's wife was mentioned in the cast list I had a feeling that I knew what was going to happen in the third story.
@amirreguieg3583
@amirreguieg3583 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of main character syndrome, never heard of someone forcing it on someone! Also they clearly don’t know what a main character is. Generally main characters aren’t crucified and burned alive (unless it’s vital to the story).
@Gormfeld
@Gormfeld Жыл бұрын
If I was the OP from story 3, I would have left when the DM said "Oh this part is scripted. You can't fight back." It's DnD, not a movie or videogame cutscene. If you're gonna railroad your players like that, then at least give them the illusion of agency and let them roll some g-dang dice by having them lose against a superior force in a combat encounter! As for the forced main character thing, I'm not even gonna touch that BS lol.
@ZeroFighter
@ZeroFighter Жыл бұрын
I do not believe in the X-Card stuff, and I do not allow them at my table. This is what Session 0 is for, and even beyond that, all of my players get reminders that if something doesn't sit right with them, they're more than welcome to request a private chat, away from the others. Session 0 sets up the expectations, and lets the GM know any issues / topics to avoid. For example, some of the players in a Resident Evil game I ran are parents, and I specifically made sure they were all cool with the possibility of infected children, being attacked by them, and having to execute them before the campaign began. After the session where children appeared, I hung around post-session to double-check that everyone was cool with it. Nobody stopped the session when it was happening, nobody had any complaints during the wrap-up, and nobody messaged me in private to speak up about any problems. The GM covers these things in advance, and always puts the players first, so long as the players aren't insufferable A-holes.
@JKevinCarrier
@JKevinCarrier Жыл бұрын
I would honestly ask the X-card player what they expect the sessions to be like, if there's never any risk or challenge involved. It sounds like they might be looking for a more "pure storytelling" game like Wanderhome or Star Crossed.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 Жыл бұрын
Yup, there are more lighthearted ttrpgs out there. There are also DMs out there who specialize in running for special needs
@---ii8hl
@---ii8hl Жыл бұрын
i had a railroad issue, to lesser degree. i led a oneshot, which i specifically presented as a CoD/battlefield like mission, to test out ranged combat mechanics. party wiped, as was expected, but also fulfilled mission objectives. recieved feedback that mission felt railroady. when i specifically said it will be railroad so i can test specific mechanics in a specific environment. bruh
@Xylarxcode
@Xylarxcode Жыл бұрын
If the DM tells you that the campaign will fall apart if you don't 'lead' the group out of there, the only proper response is: 'then you haven't designed a very good campaign, have you?' Maybe let players have their agency and decide their actions. You know, as per the game's intentions. Personally, I wouldn't stick around for a game where 'things just happen to your character because the DM says so and you, as the player, cannot interact with or alter these events in any way, shape or form.' We already have those. They're called movies/books. In an interactive game I want to, big surprise, actually interact with the events of the game.
@tenchraven
@tenchraven Жыл бұрын
Problem has never been a convention game, I assume. Homebrew race and class after being told to stick to the core book should have been an instant "nope". X card shouldn't be at a table. This is bullshit, kick them. If you're that fragile, RPGs are not for you. I heard of this for the first time with a friend's ex, who used zero conflict RPGs with special ed kids. Worst player I've ever had, bar none. This "trigger" crap "triggers" me. Story #3, if the DM has scripted trash that assaults the team in session 1, walk away. I've seen a GM like this at a convention and the GM literally got pissed that we weren't following the script (which we didn't have) and rage quit his own table. This is guy should sell his books and swallow his dice. I have my issues with paladins, but it has nothign to do with them, it has everything to do with how broken alignment is executed by most tables. But a GM like this, or one who says rangers/barbarians/druids/etc suck, isn't a GM. If you've got a race that doesn't exist, say so up front. If you've got a setting where the gods are dead, so clerics and paladins are complicated, say so. But have a reason, other than being a dick. And romantic subplots.... Eff my life. I've been gaming for more than a quarter century, and I'd never seen this crap until the last few years. Why?
@CaptainJoosh
@CaptainJoosh Жыл бұрын
"So you talk to the bank owner-" "OMG stop railroading us!" That's all I got from that first guy.
@jakisz
@jakisz Жыл бұрын
That last one, I mean a romance between two orphans from the same orphanage, I feel like that has been made into a Hollywood movie at least a dozen times within the last 10 years. While it was good on OP that they dropped it as soon as the PC said it made them feel uncomfortable is a good thing, I wouldn't consider it incest. But, to each their own.
@Saru5000
@Saru5000 Жыл бұрын
The first one isn't railroading; It's set up. That player was being a disruptive asshole.
@kenyonelliott2628
@kenyonelliott2628 Жыл бұрын
That DM that thinks a Paladin needs to be lawful good needs to go back to 3.5
@fred_derf
@fred_derf Жыл бұрын
DM: "Oh this isn't a fight. This is all scripted". Me: "Good bye".
@csabalako1788
@csabalako1788 Жыл бұрын
Critcrabs voice sounds a bit weird today. And im sure that was a dog at the start... prime example of carcinisation 😂
@mikaneko
@mikaneko Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda in agreement with most of the takes here; like the one who wanted "x cards" was probably trolling, and if not, they have no business playing D&D if they get "triggered" over a potion, but that last one? Hard no. The OP never asked the player if he even WANTED a romantic subplot with the other character, so yeah, he listened when the player told him no but he shouldn't have assumed in the first place. The other player said he DIDN'T want an incest subplot, so yeah, I think props to him for not being interested in that kind of grossness. Not sure why you're acting like it's a bad thing he said no to it. Also, I guess you've never heard of friends giving each other shit over jokes in game - happens all the time. They probably aren't even serious about it.
@alsenddrake7764
@alsenddrake7764 Жыл бұрын
"Only use official content" *Day of* "I used a homebrew class!" "YEET!" Seriously. Im one who tends to use stuff I find from good sources as I find 5e base classes just not to my taste nowadays, and that's a dumb move to strongarm a class in. ANY homebrew needs vetted.
@SManime101
@SManime101 Жыл бұрын
The last one didn't really have any problem players, Doge. It's just one friend poking fun of another friend for something dumb they tried to do. Both communicated well and squash any problems that could have turned for the worse. The "problem player" you claim to be had a good reason for not wanting their character to be in a romantic with the other and seems to be a good sport about it over all. The MC doesn't seem bother by their teasing too much and just cringes at the memory. We all do it at some point.
@rpghorrorstories
@rpghorrorstories Жыл бұрын
Okay, when I say that Lawful Good types are genocidal intolerant zealots, that is meant to be a complaint about assholes who want to "subvert expectations" or who let their beefs with whatever hypocrisies of whichever church they grew up with bleed into the game, not a goddamn roadmap on how these characters are supposed to be played.
@catgirlleah
@catgirlleah Жыл бұрын
In the last one i dont really feel like the player is a horror story, it feels more like some light hearted jokes about what OP did
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 Жыл бұрын
First story, if there's no session 0, require a full 48 hours notice for character review or the player doesn't play. That gives you plenty of time to make sure the player is committing to the concept. Last story, OP should learn how to defend the plotline while landing barbs about how banal the player's backstory was. Something like, "Hey, I dropped the romance plotline the second you told me you weren't interested, but really I don't know what else you expected after handing me the most tropy and predictable orphan backstory imaginable."
@CooperAATE
@CooperAATE Жыл бұрын
Nailed it with that opinion on the last story. That friend is being weird.
@johnlong572
@johnlong572 Жыл бұрын
i know right? like how dare he be uncomfortable being romantic with a character he his views as a sibling what a weirdo
@reesescup69
@reesescup69 Жыл бұрын
Xcard needs out of the game if they are incompatible. Because yea it is unfair. Don't play a game if you can't deal with being attacked.
@RealSeanithan
@RealSeanithan Жыл бұрын
If I'm running a session with people I don't know very well (or not at all), I ask who all actively wants X cards (not who is ok with them, but who actively wants them). When I send out texts to invite people to the sessions, I just happen not to include those people who asked for the X cards.
@marclytle644
@marclytle644 Жыл бұрын
oh please. Paladins can be chaotic evil. I had one once. Even the dark gods have champions.
@Michaeljack81sk
@Michaeljack81sk Жыл бұрын
Player in story 2 really does sound like they are trolling. X cards are pretty easy to abuse which is why I prefer to get everything sorted out in session 0
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod Жыл бұрын
I wonder what this would think of a Oath of Conquest Paladin? Lawful good subjugation of every foe?
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
'Tis easier to gently push a good idea into the Eye of a Needle than to shove one into that narrow mind.
@hunterkearney1836
@hunterkearney1836 Жыл бұрын
Solasta gameplay FTW
@Asher_Tye
@Asher_Tye Жыл бұрын
Ha. One of my first games was a Candlestick mystery run by a green DM. After the adventure he actually apologized for getting a bit railroady at the start of the adventure so we'd do the actual mystery. I pointed out that if he hadn't my character had been ready to follow a ghostly dragon he'd described in passing off into the basement, so it was all for the best. 😂
@jordanwhite8718
@jordanwhite8718 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, people who suffer through trauma are some of the toughest people I’ve ever met. If someone is using those type of cards all the time they’re probably lying. I would’ve kicked that person out immediately when they brought up the whole healthcare thing.
@sevenlexar
@sevenlexar Жыл бұрын
Yeah. My sister operates this way whenever she DM's; if somebody uses 'BUT MY TRAUMA' in order to get their way, rather than politely bringing potential trauma triggers up beforehand, when she can plan around them, then in her eyes, they're most likely lying to just get their way since some people are less likely to confront somebody on 'lying' about their trauma. She's already kicked one guy out of a session cause he kept trying to guilt trip everyone into doing what he wanted with the idea of... Self-Offing himself.
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth Жыл бұрын
That's not what x-card is for. It applies to the narration, not the mechanics. It's like safewords in BDSM, and like safewords, when it's used, the subject is terminated immediately, no questions asked - so if you x _shopping,_ you don't get free stuff, what you get is _not being at the market anymore._
@WolfHreda
@WolfHreda Жыл бұрын
That third story DM is fucking ridiculous.
@somed655
@somed655 Жыл бұрын
Funny, how almost every rpg horror story involves 5e
@DaZebraffe
@DaZebraffe Жыл бұрын
13:29 "...and seem to think that any nuance to the character, makes them not lawful good." I fail to see how that had to do with anything, anyway. Paladins do not have to be lawful good...they just have to be the same alignment as the deity they follow...
@Evoker23-lx8mb
@Evoker23-lx8mb 8 ай бұрын
If your trauma is triggered by fictional combat and fictional health potions costing fictional money then either you’ve had way too much trauma that needs to be sorted out before you join a DnD group or you don’t actually know what trauma is, never having truly experienced any of the real deal. Either way I’d have kicked that player out if I was the DM and I hope that DM did the same. Their trauma or “trauma” is actively disrupting the game more than likely on purpose.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 Жыл бұрын
One shots often are super railroady because these campaigns are only supposed to last only 1 to a small handful of sessions.
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 Жыл бұрын
Story 1: I remember leaving a comment for another horror story that ironically also applies here. I wonder how can that guy manage to talk when his head is evidently a solid block. The KZbinr responded, it's obviously out the @$$. Story 3: Your DM license has expired, have a nice day and don't call back. Story 4: Don't tell that DM that I made a Rogue that was a scout in an army or a Paladin that was basically a Star Wars Inquisitor, characters can be dynamic outside of their stereotypes. Story 5: I guess it worked out in the end . . . OP learned the error of their ways and are still friends with the player, I just hope for their sake that the player eventually drops the word 'incest' from their story, for one that's not the entire truth and two that's just gonna paint OP as a perv when they just wanted to try a subplot they saw interesting.
@karisasani7006
@karisasani7006 Жыл бұрын
As for the 2nd story?
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 Жыл бұрын
@@karisasani7006 Story 2: (Hold up X card: I've gotten in trouble in the past when it comes to triggers, I'm not the best in my approach to these things. We only got one story of when things went just a bit too far, if there were more examples, then I'd say that player needs a talking to, at the moment things are a little too vague.)
@karisasani7006
@karisasani7006 Жыл бұрын
@@willropa4226Good thing I caught that you forgot to put your thoughts on story two
@scorch2155
@scorch2155 25 күн бұрын
Incest is the correct word for the last story because the Player and the PC viewed said NPC as a sibling, you're basically saying you don't think such a relationship between two people that view themselves as siblings is incest which does paint you as a weird one.
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 25 күн бұрын
@@scorch2155 I view it as two blood relatives that are in a relationship, the two characters are related by circumstance, not blood. Like I said, it wasn't the entire truth, I imagine if the characters were related by blood, OP would've refrained.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 Жыл бұрын
Crucification? I will play my x-card on that.
@_PannieCake_
@_PannieCake_ 4 ай бұрын
"My trauma makes combat impossible and make items free." Answer: Banned. If you get so traumatized that you can't play the game, then don't expect to be allowed in the game. It is for your safety after all! 😂
@RiveroftheWither
@RiveroftheWither Жыл бұрын
I'm working on a Disney Isekai One Shot as this video comes out. Does anyone have good advice or video recommendations? First dming experience and this is a friend group I've been playing with for about a year.
@morganmcinroy4211
@morganmcinroy4211 Жыл бұрын
Could take inspo from that video game that came out recently, Dreamlight Valley. It basically already is a Disney isekai. Just make the evil dark thorns a creation of the one shot villain.
@GODincarnet
@GODincarnet Жыл бұрын
Don't over think things. If you try to over analyse and worry about all the different ways your players can break encounters you will end up rail roading and stressing yourself out. Just have fun best advice I was ever told when it came to DMing, is keep meticulous notes, how each player handles situations it will help with the planning of encounters as not to go too easy or destroy and stress your party and yourself and as always its D&D, and the dm is the scene setter not players vs dm you are not trying to beat your players... unless they deserve it lol
@RiveroftheWither
@RiveroftheWither Жыл бұрын
@@morganmcinroy4211 I'll look into it, so far all the work I've done has been reviewing 5e races and sub classes including some tested UA and making a list of character restrictions, settling on point by, etc. The mechanics are the easy and fun part but the prep and improv is what scares my ASD butt. Story wise so far I've been leaning a little towards Dissidia but I'll look into Dreamlight Valley. As much as I like Kingdom Hearts I definitely don't want this to become a KH rpg.
@RiveroftheWither
@RiveroftheWither Жыл бұрын
@@GODincarnet Thank you but I do want to stress that this is just a one shot.
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
If improv is what you are worried about you might want to check out some of Guy's videos on "How to be a Great GM" channel here on KZbin. Especially his video on O.G.A.S. Really helps line out what and NPC would do or how they would react to most situations.
@Nikodraws149
@Nikodraws149 Жыл бұрын
This batch of stories was full of people who have a fundamental misunderstanding of the spirit of ttrpgs, I think
@IrrevMike
@IrrevMike Жыл бұрын
I'm sick and tired of players and GMs that view various races and classes as nothing more than memes and stereotypes. Things like the horny bard, the stupid barbarian and the religious zealot paladin are tiresome character types that reveal that the person playing said character lacks imagination and creativity. Having a campaign filled with nothing more than memes and stereotypes would be boring.
@allisonsnyder745
@allisonsnyder745 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate guidance from the DM & 1-shots are so streamlined that a slight railroad doesn't seem like a big deal. The 1-dimensional LG Paladin trope is the bane of my existence and such a boring way to play the class.
@starbird3939
@starbird3939 Жыл бұрын
“paladin” I feel like people have no idea on how to use a paladin. You can have some like Ricky Matsuei from Unsleeping City-a genuinely good boi whose oath was a thing because he was a firefighter. Lawful good. Meanwhile I have sheeted Eric Draven from The Crow as a Phantom Rogue/Vengeance Paladin. Chaotic Neutral. And then you can have a Lawful Evil paladin using his oath to be a bully.
@astersworld6169
@astersworld6169 Жыл бұрын
OK so i have limited knowledge when it comes to d&d but i can tell you that paladins best moments don't come from sacrfice, i took out like a ton of zombies playing turn undead with a paladin and it felt badass, so that is not all that paladins are good for
@teenfoe
@teenfoe Жыл бұрын
Off to the psych ward with you.
@phoeberia2734
@phoeberia2734 Жыл бұрын
wIth the trauma bit ive had to deal with someone like that, I told them for their own safety they're no longer allowed to be apart of our game and its better they find a more compatible group then to stick with us and continue to put themselves in such strenious situations.
@RealSeanithan
@RealSeanithan Жыл бұрын
The final story: the player is absolutely not in the wrong for viewing a person he would have grown up with in an orphanage as a sibling. Therefore, it wouldn't be unreasonable for him to be as repulsed by the idea of relations with that person as he would by incest, and to even view them as one in the same. As for not letting the DM live it down, if you do something stupid, any friend that lets you forget about it is not a true friend at all.
@rayrdr59
@rayrdr59 Жыл бұрын
Dungeon Masters can run railroads better than Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigeig
@theratking013
@theratking013 Жыл бұрын
Why is it so difficult to understand that a Paladin is a Person too and Alignment isnt so restricting that you can only be that way and nothing else, how else would a Paladin his Powers if cant act Chaotic/Evil?!
@TheDimir
@TheDimir Жыл бұрын
I'm yet to see LG oath of conquest
@madelineu7971
@madelineu7971 11 ай бұрын
The x card story… if you want 0 triggering things/struggle… play something like a bluey RPG (if that exists lol) or a 1 on 1 campaign with a Dm where you win everything? Part of dnd games is struggling for things (like potentially health potions). I wonder what the update for that story is. Betting the problem player is a troll 🤣🤣
@RikkaCherri
@RikkaCherri Жыл бұрын
"This is what my character wants" "Its what my character would do" - Translation: Im a dick
@seto_kaiba_
@seto_kaiba_ Жыл бұрын
Tbh I still wouldn’t railroad a one shot.
@kaspi001
@kaspi001 Жыл бұрын
A player playing as a tiefling rogue is a massive red flag.
@BurroughsProductions
@BurroughsProductions Жыл бұрын
How?
@seebassteterismaster7879
@seebassteterismaster7879 Жыл бұрын
@@BurroughsProductions because he said so.
@BurroughsProductions
@BurroughsProductions Жыл бұрын
@@seebassteterismaster7879 sounds about right lol
@rynowatcher
@rynowatcher Жыл бұрын
X card story: I tend to think that the x card is a good intent but a terrible idea in practice. I am all for making players comfortable and avoiding hit button issues, but in order to talk about the card to use the card. It is a bit like locking the keys in the car so you do not lose them. Yeah, 100% trolling in the story, though.
@scorch2155
@scorch2155 25 күн бұрын
So many people in these commets do not understand the pointof safety tools lile the X card, just because you have a proper session 0 doesn't meand eceryone knlw exactly waht will upset them or that things cant be forgotten. My GM had a session zero woth a previous group a d was told by a player they had secer arqchniphobia and later forgot that fact and had the players fight a giant spider and didnt notice the player go quiet and only learned of the player till later. It doesnt matter if you have a sessiom 0, shit can happen and saying you arent okay with them because theu can be abused, guess what you session zero can be abised by problems players and GMs to learn exacty what to do to get a rise out of you as weve seen in some stories so you best drop session zeros now too becauas they can be abused.
@raymondharnack4160
@raymondharnack4160 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit throw that X card player out of the game….. enjoyment for the group comes before a single player.
@myautobiographyafanfic1413
@myautobiographyafanfic1413 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't feel safe with the kind of person who feels they need "safety" rules.
@TLSoulDude
@TLSoulDude Жыл бұрын
(Problem apologizes) Wow, that's oddly mature. Think I'll cut him some slack since we ALL have bad days and sometimes don't deal with it in the best way. At least he owned his mistake and- ("I could help you not be as railroady and boring.") ...You are so booted and I have zero sympathy for you.
@arcanearcher13
@arcanearcher13 Жыл бұрын
I get that there is always a small amount of railroading in any game but the problem generally occurs when a dmpc gets involved. Add in a ton of travel and the game becomes a slog.
@vexxama
@vexxama Жыл бұрын
X card is definitely abusing the idea. Should be noted how much of what they complained about had mechanical impacts on the game, rather than just narrative. The potion buying and targeting seem like stretches in logic to just backseat DM. Wouldn’t surprise me if they held it up for bad rolls
@jaimeXDgo
@jaimeXDgo Жыл бұрын
I reject the idea that someone who is described as a writer uses the fucking "literally" every sentence and a half like that.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon Жыл бұрын
It is true that kids _tend to_ view those they were raised with as siblings - it's called the Westermarck effect, a kind of "reverse sexual imprinting." That said, it depends on age (usually happens when kids live together from _before_ the age of 6), isn't _quite_ as universal as people once thought it was, and doesn't really fit the definition of "incest." Also, unless you're an amateur psychology buff, you might not know about this, so I agree that the OP did nothing wrong.
@Shalakor
@Shalakor Жыл бұрын
Orphanage is basically a dorm situation, much different from foster care or adoption. Like, it's understandable for the PC's character to view the NPC as a sibling like it could happen with someone they'd spent a lot of time with growing up in school or a small village, just as it's okay for the NPC to not see things that way and have romantic feelings that are unrequited. Can still turn someone down in fiction just as in real life, doesn't have to be weird or get retconned. It is easier to do so, though.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon Жыл бұрын
@@Shalakor - Of course. I just don't think it's the "obviously incestual" situation that the narrator's player apparently thinks it was.
@kyriss12
@kyriss12 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t there an opposite effect where siblings separated from birth will meet up as adults, and hookup without knowing their related. The theory is that on an instinctual level they recognize a strong genetic compatibility, but since they weren’t raised together their subconscious never established the familial connection that makes people a bit squeamish.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon Жыл бұрын
@@kyriss12 - I think there is, but I also think there's a lot less research about it.
@7thsealord888
@7thsealord888 Жыл бұрын
X-carder should be very nicely cut loose. If they are using the X-cards so much, then clearly this specific game is unsuited to them
@yesmansam6686
@yesmansam6686 Жыл бұрын
It is harsh to kick them for over using x cards, but, sometimes, you gotta be harsh. It's life, it's unfair in the ways it challenges us. A game that doesn't throw you a even just a little challenge isn't fun at all.
@Rustwyrm
@Rustwyrm Жыл бұрын
I understand why X cards exist, I understand some people have trauma, but there's a point where that isn't an indicator that the game needs to change for them, but they need to find a different game that is more suited to their needs. If I'm running a drow-centric campaign, and you hold up the X-card because you're arachnophobic...it isn't the game for you, I wish you well.
@andrwblood9162
@andrwblood9162 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a DM that wants to unapologetically railroad everyone, is too lazy to build a plot for that railroaded game, and is too cowardly to actually just own any of that. You don't have to imagine that! It's a story in this video! 😃💀
@byronsmothers8064
@byronsmothers8064 Жыл бұрын
Over the different editions, paladins have indeed have been rigid & strict to play, that changed with 5th edition. Some GMs are locked in that idea that paladins need to be square peg square hole builds, which stifles new player creativity.
@frankalphonso268
@frankalphonso268 Жыл бұрын
In relation to the x cards story I would say if you got a consent form you have the right to highlight things on it and say if these are no goes for you then this campaign should be a no go for you
@nicksmith8212
@nicksmith8212 9 ай бұрын
Yeah… no this person will throw up an x-card if they might be injured or killed in game as he fears death in real life.
@dracawyn
@dracawyn Жыл бұрын
People who think all paladins are goody two-shoes exclusively lawful good are wild. Like, who looks at the tenets of the Oath of Conquest and thinks: "yes, this is what a good person believes." I mean, even if you *do* go by the idea that paladins can only become paladins because they're religious zealots "therefore always good and self-sacrificing," like, have you *seen* the d&d pantheon for literally any campaign setting? There are a TON of evil and neutral and chaotic religions. Cultists are a staple bad guy in d&d because there are so many gods and other powerful creatures to worship.
@johnlong572
@johnlong572 Жыл бұрын
wait I'm sorry but how is the player the horror story here? he has a sibling like bond with a npc the dm tries making it a romantic one he says that it makes him uncomfortable because their bond is the same as siblings and it feels like incest because of their close sibling like bond he then makes jokes about it so can someone explain why he's in the wrong because if telling a dm that their making you uncomfortable and explain why makes you a horror story I'm glad i don't play dnd
@Juju2927
@Juju2927 Жыл бұрын
X-card story feels like those stories about People on the spectrum using that to excuse being a dick towards people.
@midasii2632
@midasii2632 Жыл бұрын
Alabama doggo nice
@ArchieRatsworth
@ArchieRatsworth Жыл бұрын
My favourite part of these readings is hearing your personal opinion on things.
@marybdrake1472
@marybdrake1472 Жыл бұрын
A bad player tries to tell the DM of a one-shot that they are bad DM? That's really dumb. It's a one shot, they have a set direction.
@michaelwautraets7126
@michaelwautraets7126 Жыл бұрын
Your right side eyebrows are poking trough your hat Dog.
@BurroughsProductions
@BurroughsProductions Жыл бұрын
Idk the last story op is Der the ahole. They didn't ask op it they wanted a love story, also the player didn't say all orphans are siblings he said that he viewed the character as a sibling which op would have known if they talked to the player. Which again they didnt
@tenshyklonik
@tenshyklonik Жыл бұрын
For the X card yu gi oh player, the DM can use againts them, how, you así? Simple, when they abuse em, maker the Npc, Monsters, traps, etc, use them, like "you dont fall in the trap, the trap uses a X card because It dont like you to evade It so you suffer it", if the player say something, simple say "Excuse me, where its write that Npc, Monsters and traps cant use em?"
@mirrortherorrim
@mirrortherorrim Жыл бұрын
X cards are a dumb idea. If you know some situations may make you uncomfortable, tell that to your DM. In words. Through your mouth. Not raise a stupid card. Will save you from like 90% of these stories. The rest 10% will not care about any cards, neither will they about words.
@generaldreagonlps6889
@generaldreagonlps6889 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that person using the x card was trolling or just shouldn't play dnd. If basic rules and mechanics of a game genuinely trigger you, then it is your problem and it's not up to others to solve it.
@DanaOtken
@DanaOtken Жыл бұрын
It's sounding a lot like an original miscommunication where the player thought "one-shot" meant "we're going to blow off steam by murderhoboing for a night" and just did not expect there to be any kind of a plot - and since nobody thought to actually say this the gulf of miscommunication widened.
@treinadordeledian7540
@treinadordeledian7540 Жыл бұрын
cat power
@iank472
@iank472 Жыл бұрын
In the "DM murders entire party" story there's an easy counter. If the DM isn't bothering to stick to even the most basic rules then neither do you. Interrupt the DM (one of the rare times I'm advocating doing that) and describe how your character sheds their weak, mortal disguise and assumes their true form: an ancient silver dragon who sought companionship with an adventuring party. Then describe how this incredibly power being tears the puny mortal who ruined their experience to shreds and leaves. Then get up and leave in real life.
@karisasani7006
@karisasani7006 Жыл бұрын
Watch out though if the Dm does something like have the dmpc turn out to be a dragonslayer
@kylesims4149
@kylesims4149 Жыл бұрын
2nd story was definitely a troll, but the troll worked cause they didn't want to call it out earlier. Too scared of being accused of being a bigot etc.
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor Жыл бұрын
this is so stupid, so the idea railroading as a negative part of D&D is EXCLUSIVE to sandbox campaigns where player character parties continue an adventure over many sessions where the expectation is that the players have agency on how the story plays out where "railroading" would negatively effect a player's agency in such a campaign to remove much of the point of playing in a sandbox campaign. One shots are designed to tell a very specific story in a very specific way, the players are there to experience the story the way the DM designed that to be with minimal built in agency by the players other then specific decisions they can make to very slightly alter the outcomes they encounter along the storyline; basically IT'S DESIGNED TO BE RAILROADED FROM START TO FINISH!
@l0stndamned
@l0stndamned Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone remembering to nope out of a bad game early one. Several of the other stories could have benefited from that sort of response.
@sn0wb00ts
@sn0wb00ts Жыл бұрын
I like to think all of us are here getting vicarious satisfaction because there’s a lot of good dnd going on and not a lot of bad dnd. Haha😢
@Ara-gq7sb
@Ara-gq7sb Жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@DisneyChar
@DisneyChar Жыл бұрын
It's scripted. *pause. I quit.
@etcetera1995
@etcetera1995 Жыл бұрын
I swear, paladins are cursed. They're either played by fascist creeps, or their DMs don't understand nuance and think 'good' equals 'idiot.'
@scottshannon9646
@scottshannon9646 Жыл бұрын
One of my campaigns, I offered my players pre-made characters that only gave their name, gender, class, and a brief blurb about their personality. The paladin was selected, and her blurb was something like: "she loves a good barn dance, and wants to show the world that not all paladins have a stick up their ass." Probably the most fun character in the campaign to watch RP'd.
@robbietheweirdo
@robbietheweirdo Жыл бұрын
paladins aren't nesessarily religious though? like seriously their oath could have been taken for any number of reasons
@TigerW0lf
@TigerW0lf Жыл бұрын
Rip up the x card and tell them that they abused it so they can't use it
@amarellaharte574
@amarellaharte574 Жыл бұрын
An x card is NOT a red flag for me - it's a deal breaker.
@randomidakatta4333
@randomidakatta4333 Жыл бұрын
Ooo, im super early.
@vortega472
@vortega472 Жыл бұрын
My mouth is hanging open with the stupidity of the second story. Not only would I leave the game, I would leave the friendship. Ah kitty break - was that Alice!?
@davenrippe480
@davenrippe480 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, no X-cards are allowed as that would be an easy to abuse system and while the game can be used to escape a little from reality, the game still has rules, potions aint free and to be honest, they should feel great that they can play a character that can do so many cool things. I think that they just want to be treated special, cause I am poor and don't have health care or any of that stuff but the game is just fun and he honestly is just bogging down the game with that hurt snowflake card.
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