Pregnant Dad: Giving Birth As A Transgender Man | Sex Map of Britain

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@bloodrocuted
@bloodrocuted 6 жыл бұрын
I feel they got unnecessary offended when she said a labouring woman. The look they gave her. She made a mistake, she's used to dealing with pregnant women give her a break. At least she's trying.
@abigailclark9804
@abigailclark9804 6 жыл бұрын
Of course she is used to dealing with pregnant women as only a female body can get pregnant.
@mariae6267
@mariae6267 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodrocuted Death -right at least she did not keep saying the mistake over and over agin
@nellierowe3347
@nellierowe3347 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodrocuted Death exactly!
@leahtv7778
@leahtv7778 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodrocuted Death Any woman who can't deal with the fact that she is a woman shouldn't be giving birth, lol.
@melwtf9134
@melwtf9134 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodrocuted Death exactly what I said. His partner snapped at the nurse
@amethystcrystalgirl2379
@amethystcrystalgirl2379 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be awkward if the baby eventually comes out to his parents as not a Les Miserables fan?
@SmoreLegend
@SmoreLegend 6 жыл бұрын
How can you not misgender him, even though he has long hair, a feminine voice, has feminine features including breasts and is pregnant??? People forget that your exterior appearance represents your sexual organs, hence the assumption of gender. Honestly, don’t get on at people for human error.
@lordfreeza_
@lordfreeza_ 6 жыл бұрын
Phukit it's not an "assumption" gender is biological it's a species specific term for sex.
@danny55430
@danny55430 6 жыл бұрын
Also he has sex like a girl to be pregnant.
@armaniv6455
@armaniv6455 6 жыл бұрын
I would’ve assumed they were a lesbian couple as opposed to “men” .. am I to be punished for that ?
@meat192
@meat192 6 жыл бұрын
Gender is indeed unchangeable. Being injected the opposite genders hormone as well as surgeries and other methods can indeed cover up the original gender, but it does not change the biological gender. Now why is transgender even a thing, well it's because of norms buil into the society. Specifally transgender people are people who psychologically does not feel part of their natural assigned norms. Is it a real thing even? Clearly it is. Do we have any rights to restrict these people from fulfilling their wishes? Absolutely not. Now shut up with your old fashioned conservative statements, you as well as everyone else were the ones to create norms.
@luzier2767
@luzier2767 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not! As a ftm myself, I will admit I have incredibly feminine features that I am working on in the early parts of my transition. I also intend to one day have a child like this, and it's absolutely okay for you to assume someone's pronouns and gender upon meeting them based on how they present. If they correct you on their pronouns or name, though, please at least TRY to respect it. :)
@kimilatto7509
@kimilatto7509 5 жыл бұрын
If being pregnant makes you feel uncomfortable and upset then please dont do it
@protambike7258
@protambike7258 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@gxs2542
@gxs2542 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@aprilblankenship5496
@aprilblankenship5496 3 жыл бұрын
That's 99% of pregnant people. lol
@srso4660
@srso4660 2 жыл бұрын
ALL pregnant people feel that way. That would mean NO ONE would get pregnant 😆
@Reticence9zen924
@Reticence9zen924 2 жыл бұрын
But, I know pregnancy can have discomforts, but a lot of mothers life love having their unborn child inside them and can love pregnancy? Some women even feel most sexy and beautiful while pregnant?
@alyssah1442
@alyssah1442 6 жыл бұрын
if you walk around as a pregnant woman, you can’t expect people to call you he/him and that’s the tea
@nayeontofu
@nayeontofu 6 жыл бұрын
Jeongin!
@EatPlasticSurgery1
@EatPlasticSurgery1 6 жыл бұрын
He ain't walking around as a pregnant woman tho
@sumi4684
@sumi4684 6 жыл бұрын
HannahSoPe, well he isn't a male by sex so yes he is a pregnant WOMEN. Gender is in the mind. Your sex is biological. He is a women and even he knows that.
@ChrisTopheRaz
@ChrisTopheRaz 6 жыл бұрын
fenrif what? Lol
@rikrob5172
@rikrob5172 6 жыл бұрын
keep letting them confuse you. It's splitting hairs to separate gender and sex like that.
@dejaa
@dejaa 6 жыл бұрын
How do you expect strangers to know he want to be a man & is walking around pregnant and still look like a woman
@macadoodl5227
@macadoodl5227 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne ikr
@lee5267
@lee5267 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne so true
@ellaw3473
@ellaw3473 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne its not wanting to be a man... He is a man born in the wrong body
@dejaa
@dejaa 6 жыл бұрын
Ella W I know that
@ellaw3473
@ellaw3473 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne so why u saying he "wants" to be a man when he us one??
@k_a_y_l_e_e
@k_a_y_l_e_e 6 жыл бұрын
yo his mom's artwork is dope tho
@Ruhan10
@Ruhan10 6 жыл бұрын
k a y l e e her*
@julio-dh6st
@julio-dh6st 6 жыл бұрын
her*
@jaydenc257
@jaydenc257 6 жыл бұрын
Her*
@tyannameloche5664
@tyannameloche5664 6 жыл бұрын
for all you idiots HE is a MAN not a woman a DAD not mom a HUSBAND not wife
@Exiled-h4h
@Exiled-h4h 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit the wrong “pronouns” holy fuck get over it
@MrM0saic
@MrM0saic 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they get angry if anyone misgenders them. Like, how dare you assume that I’m a woman even though I have a high pitches voice, wear what’s generally considered female clothes and a female hairstyle by society, dimple piercings that are mostly a female thing AND I AM PREGNANT!!!!! Well, excccuuuussseee me for making that assumption. Now, please be sure to angrily shame me and call me trans-phobic 🤦🏻‍♀️
@mjforeverlover9
@mjforeverlover9 4 жыл бұрын
I believe most people with a lick of common sense would completely agree with you
@zb7293
@zb7293 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, lack off common sense is taking over...how dare anyone assume that pregnant woman is woman... Just absurd ..
@MrM0saic
@MrM0saic 4 жыл бұрын
@@zb7293 ikr 😂😂
@geminitaylor241
@geminitaylor241 6 жыл бұрын
IT'S BREASTFEEDING!! NOT CHESTFEEDING. Both males and females has breast. Smfh.
@natashamorrison6296
@natashamorrison6296 6 жыл бұрын
Gemini Taylor degrading to woman
@audreyhartman
@audreyhartman 6 жыл бұрын
Excuse me? I prefer to call them tits you bigot 😤😤😤😤
@dankmheems290
@dankmheems290 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the more pc term, Moobs.
@TyeArtisik
@TyeArtisik 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@taylorm1997
@taylorm1997 Жыл бұрын
Men don’t breast LMAO
@miriamsulaiman9552
@miriamsulaiman9552 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so stoned right now and it took me a good while to understand what tf was going on
@zeinabali4351
@zeinabali4351 6 жыл бұрын
It's confusing even when your not stoned.
@bstmeg5237
@bstmeg5237 6 жыл бұрын
Sad but funny . I'm sure that was trippy.
@jumanamarwan5787
@jumanamarwan5787 6 жыл бұрын
Miriam Sulaiman same
@subblonde3101
@subblonde3101 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@m.l.r.showsquadlol2946
@m.l.r.showsquadlol2946 6 жыл бұрын
Miriam Sulaiman IM shook
@aguilarriscool
@aguilarriscool 6 жыл бұрын
Not a single tear lol this is so off. I support trans completely, but all I see is a lesbian couple, they are more concerned with the pronouns than anything else. Sorry
@eyesthesizeofthemoon584
@eyesthesizeofthemoon584 6 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. It's sad really. I am all for being yourself and being happy but, this is quite different. I fully agree about seeing a lesbian couple that is simply worried about pronouns. I wouldnt be surprised if this is more of a phase due to the age.
@ratsatouile
@ratsatouile 4 жыл бұрын
support trans? wrong.
@souperific
@souperific 2 жыл бұрын
you don’t support trans people.
@rubingtonthesecond
@rubingtonthesecond 4 жыл бұрын
When Alex jumped in and said "labouring MAN" I thought that was quite rude. The nurse was doing her best and being so polite and understanding. Besides she was talking about past experience not Dorian specifically.
@laurashipp447
@laurashipp447 4 жыл бұрын
I thought both of them were quite rude, demanding, intolerant and down right pushy from the beginning to the end of the video. Just my opinion.
@rubingtonthesecond
@rubingtonthesecond 4 жыл бұрын
@@laurashipp447 I agree. They have to be understanding too.
@fiancefreedomjourney
@fiancefreedomjourney 4 жыл бұрын
She wasn't even talking about them
@rubingtonthesecond
@rubingtonthesecond 4 жыл бұрын
@@fiancefreedomjourney exactly 😂
@Kay-iz1wk
@Kay-iz1wk 4 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourselves, it’s a daily frustration for some and this time in his life is already mega stressful
@jonii5962
@jonii5962 6 жыл бұрын
The paintings his mother created! Good grief they are beautifully amazing!
@julio-dh6st
@julio-dh6st 6 жыл бұрын
her*
@hellooldfriend3223
@hellooldfriend3223 6 жыл бұрын
julio no its him not her
@julio-dh6st
@julio-dh6st 6 жыл бұрын
Flower Child wrong. if someone is able to get pregnant, that's a female.
@hellooldfriend3223
@hellooldfriend3223 6 жыл бұрын
julio they may not want to identify as female though
@julio-dh6st
@julio-dh6st 6 жыл бұрын
Flower Child I don't give a rat's ass what someone "wants" to identify as, if you're a woman, you're a woman and vice versa. you can't change biology.
@ixion9917
@ixion9917 6 жыл бұрын
See, I don't have a problem with this because it's what they want to do. It's their lives, let them do what they want. But "Chest-feeding" for real??? Y'all never heard of "Nursing"??
@michaelr.4878
@michaelr.4878 6 жыл бұрын
I don't care what people do either. Do whatever makes you happy. But...you can't expect the rest of the world to change what words they use to simply accommodate such a tiny fraction of the population.
@marblemania4345
@marblemania4345 6 жыл бұрын
Also, it is not like men don't have breasts... They are just not the same as women's...
@grapefives7762
@grapefives7762 6 жыл бұрын
CHEST FEEDING LMAO
@ixion9917
@ixion9917 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@aok9153
@aok9153 6 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with this because they will ruin that kids life if theyre truly delusional. I hope theyre just trolling and doing this for attention, shes the most straight lesbian ive ever seen. Also she doesnt even try to look like a man.
@sohaniyadav
@sohaniyadav 6 жыл бұрын
He looks/sounds like a woman. How am i supposed to know that he identifies as a trans man?
@skylark.kraken
@skylark.kraken 6 жыл бұрын
That is true, I have 0 issue being told to use certain pronouns, I will always remember and never slip up - but if you don't present yourself clearly either way you will be mis-gendered and can't really expect people straight away without being told, I have 2 friends one male one female and they both look like the opposite and they get mis-gendered often so it's not just a trans issue (they both roll with it and we all use incorrect pronouns for them so we aren't helping matters)
@sackme4377
@sackme4377 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the title might be one clear indication. Secondly, people don't just expect you to know. They'll correct you as needed, all they want is for you to accept this and use the pronouns they ask for.
@sohaniyadav
@sohaniyadav 6 жыл бұрын
Notoriously Gaming and i did use the correct pronouns to address him in my comment. All i am saying that him expecting everyone to know that he identifies as a trans man while he looks like a woman is wrong on his part
@sackme4377
@sackme4377 6 жыл бұрын
Sohani Yadav He doesn't expect it! He doesn't expect he people to know, he just wants them to RESPECT him when he asks them to use the correct pronouns.
@SoNoFTheMoSt
@SoNoFTheMoSt 6 жыл бұрын
she doesnt even want to be in a hospital because people wont know, so shes not even willing to correct someone.
@alssed5229
@alssed5229 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like adopting could have decreased his dysphoria and given a home to a child who doesn't have one
@Rose-qd2bl
@Rose-qd2bl 5 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't adopt kids either with their egos. It's all about them.
@AF3NI
@AF3NI 4 жыл бұрын
leave adoptive children out of it.. They deserve much better.. Its already hard enough.. I would rather be alone raised in a orphanage and im not lying
@niikoleta
@niikoleta 4 жыл бұрын
@@AF3NI all a baby needs is love and they clearly love their baby. I don't love my parents because of their gender, i love them because they're great these people that raised me. As long as they can provide for their baby and care for it when who cares what they identify as :)
@AF3NI
@AF3NI 4 жыл бұрын
Let them ruin their own children's life smh.with their mindset I wouldn't even advice them having a cat. There's already enough confusing in being adopted.. Adoptees already have a identity crisis so u want to put a child with parents who clearly have a identity crisis themselves and a lot more issues? Theyre so narcistic and self centered, what's wrong with people? 😂😂😂 if everyone keeps asking for children in the west the illegal things that are happening won't stop. Children will keep getting ripped away and sold off to a system.. It's a joke 90 precent of all adoptees could have stayed with their biological parent(s), family member(s) or at least stayed in their home country.. If the system really worked and was made for children it wouldn't be that so many adoptees are broken, and fucked up in the head. They get disowned by the adoption family when they hit puberty, because people think it's easy and the child will just easily adapt because it's "loved" and the child should always be happy because what if they didn't adopt It. Oh please get of your high horse.. Adoptees could always had better options too. It's not always the negative that's what people never seem to understand .. Adoption it's just a money making industry. So many organistions benefit from adoptees so why would they try to avoid and give parents the help they need and provide them with resources so that they can take of their children. It's bs.. My time in group homes it was the best time and I wished I was never adopted like so many others. You already on your own, they take everything from you, your name, culture, your whole identity. And on top of that make it seem and make people believe you're not alone and you have a family it's just on paper, just so that they can feel themselves better lmfao.. 😂 Adoption children are most likely to get abused. Stop using children as a chattle. They're not plan b, it's sickening.
@gxs2542
@gxs2542 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I don't understand this
@Mclemonade
@Mclemonade 6 жыл бұрын
“Labouring man” god the attitude he had was annoying. I get the whole pronouns thing but geez atleast be patient with people who are just starting to understand.
@Findingsunshiness
@Findingsunshiness 6 жыл бұрын
Lennon Juice how is he bad attitude? how else should he correct her?
@Musical_Pigeon
@Musical_Pigeon 6 жыл бұрын
I have a trans friend who just politely says that he's actually a guy. You don't have to have an attitude to correct someone.
@Findingsunshiness
@Findingsunshiness 6 жыл бұрын
Jessika Meeker then tell me what is your "right way" of correcting then in the scenario where she just mentions pregnant women. are you going to give a long naggy polite speech or just a simple "pregnant man"?
@Musical_Pigeon
@Musical_Pigeon 6 жыл бұрын
E T typically it's a simple "um actually pregnant man" mostly it's an issue of the tone of voice.
@Mclemonade
@Mclemonade 6 жыл бұрын
E T See? That hostility you’re showing is even necessary. You’re being aggressive for no reason.
@Rybread7
@Rybread7 6 жыл бұрын
People are slowly losing their minds.
@breeestep1187
@breeestep1187 6 жыл бұрын
....slowly? Lol
@Rybread7
@Rybread7 6 жыл бұрын
@@breeestep1187 Yeah that was an understatement...... more like rapidly lol
@ozmobozo
@ozmobozo 6 жыл бұрын
not slowly dude
@SalmanKhan-tt6os
@SalmanKhan-tt6os 6 жыл бұрын
Slowly. Ur faster.??
@sarahanne_makeup9144
@sarahanne_makeup9144 6 жыл бұрын
How can u be so disrespectful and disgusting about how people aren’t comfortable in the body they were born in
@dabadeedabadie001
@dabadeedabadie001 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised anyone puts up with them, they sound like they think the whole world just revolves around them
@global1577
@global1577 6 жыл бұрын
MajesticHobbit facts
@evilpotatos
@evilpotatos 6 жыл бұрын
So basically, all new parents
@novabanks8890
@novabanks8890 6 жыл бұрын
exactly
@nerylimonte7117
@nerylimonte7117 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes
@amelie5086
@amelie5086 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t but this video is ABOUT THEM. It’s like having your own birthday party and everyone says happy birthday to your mum instead.
@brianna9778
@brianna9778 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be completely honest. I have nothing against someone being transgender at all. As long as your happy then go you but he doesnt seem transgender to me. I hate to say this but he comes off as confused,
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 5 жыл бұрын
SHE not HE
@brianna9778
@brianna9778 5 жыл бұрын
@@deniseg-hill1730 No, even if you dont believe that he is he, you need to respect his preferred pronouns.
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 5 жыл бұрын
@@brianna9778 Sorry don't agree. This is GD.
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 5 жыл бұрын
@@scubanator3990 I didn't you must be replying to someone else's comment who criticised my comment. SHE IS A WOMAN and It's gender dysphoria. They are 2 women (lesbians)
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 5 жыл бұрын
@@scubanator3990 Not likely, g/dysphoria seems to be increasing these days amongst the lefty Feminazi SJW brigade.
@Sorrys0rry
@Sorrys0rry 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing that I don't understand here is as transgender men wanting children why not simply adopt a kid, because being pregnant is the most female experience anyone can ever have. Why go through all those obstacle, the body dysphoria, having to push back the transition, risking being adressed as the mothers forever (if the law doesn't change), being misgendered in the hospital etc? I just don't get it.
@colorbandiits
@colorbandiits 6 жыл бұрын
Adoption can take years and some people want biological children. Why do some gay men get a surrogate or some lesbians a sperm donor? It's because having biological children is important to that person.
@Haruglory131
@Haruglory131 6 жыл бұрын
The online me haha logical but its because humans are all different stupid or smart man or women child or adult
@Sorrys0rry
@Sorrys0rry 6 жыл бұрын
Don't take what I'm going to say the wrong way but I really can't agree with you on this one, you cannot couple pregnancy and gender. It is because the man in this video has the proper organs to carry a child that he is able to do so. The gender expression of that man doesn't change his biology. No biological man will ever be able to carry a child, you need an uterus to do that. I'm all about accepting people that are different and in fact I wrote this comment in hope that someone with a transgender experience would help me better understand the thought process of the two men in the video. But you cannot tell me that pregancy is a Human experience, it does not make sense. Sex and gender are not the same thing.
@Child_of_Nyx
@Child_of_Nyx 6 жыл бұрын
The online me and suddenly you wish has been granted. The person above is actually correct in their reasoning. I myself (if i wanted children) would want to give birth to the child in order to have a closer bond with the kid and so that my partner feels more connected with the child as well.
@4EvaHeartBreak
@4EvaHeartBreak 6 жыл бұрын
I think adoption could have just as many obstacles and challenges as actually birthing a child of their own.
@ParenthesisGrey
@ParenthesisGrey 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, even as a trans person myself, these people are extremely obsessed with labels, even if they aren't 100% presenting as their gender. I can understand that, yes, medically, there's a mother. That's literally a legal, medical document. Some things, such as certain genetic conditions, are carried only by the mother and that's sort of important information to have. No different than saying your legal sex is whatever you're born with if you haven't made any changes to your physical sex characteristics. It makes it easier for the system, legal, health, or otherwise, to provide proper care and accommodations for what equipment you do have. I doubt that either of them need prostate exams any time soon. It doesn't mean you can't tell your son to call you "dad" or have him call you whatever you want. Hell, I know a nonbinary person who has their kid call them "Neeby". Being trans isn't so much of an outside thing as it is an inside thing. If this person was confident enough in their identity and knows it true to be within himself that he's a man, and was in better touch with, oh I don't know, 99.7% of the population, they probably wouldn't be throwing such a huge fit about it. I know trans guys who get misgendered and they just brush it off like nothing or politely correct the person, because they're aware that they are men, despite lacking the Y chromosome, and they usually put in a lot of effort to present as such. Long hair is usually a no-go for most, especially pre-T, just because even cis men get misgendered for lengthy locks. But, you know, if there's no kicking and screaming, it's not really something worth making a 23 minute long video about. Having a child and starting a family, male or female, should be a positive thing, something exciting. You're making that commitment with your partner to be together and raise an infant that you can proudly call your own. It shouldn't be about "wahh, the nurse I'm probably only going to know for a day or two called me a 'mother' instead of a father, even though I look undeniably female and literally just had an infant pulled out of my undeniably female reproductive system, why is society so stuck on gender norms" or feeling invalidated by people who really don't matter when it's all said and done. This feels less about the infant than it is about them, and I find this a lot in people who are self-centered and all about only fulfilling their needs. Anyways, thank you for coming to my TEDtalk.
@loen2629
@loen2629 6 жыл бұрын
Suspect Ink preach
@Elena-xz7wj
@Elena-xz7wj 6 жыл бұрын
Ily
@cdizzle99z
@cdizzle99z 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that truth
@saoirsedunne1229
@saoirsedunne1229 6 жыл бұрын
Suspect Ink well said!
@siobhanforshaw5359
@siobhanforshaw5359 6 жыл бұрын
I am not trans but I have a lot of understanding when it comes to transgenders. Men especially as my housemate and best friend has explained so much to me. God he’s even thrown his (clean) packer at me 😂🤦🏻‍♀️. It annoyed me a little when they were talking to the midwife and she said “pregnant women.” She obvs did not mean any insult or anything by it. Biologically he is a woman and unfortunately, pregnant trans men are few and far between. This is not the norm at this time so unfortunately people would trip up calling him she. I think it’s amazing that he’s shared his journey with the nation and world. I just feel that the midwifes have a lot of understanding in regards to his sex however, are going to make mistakes. Also, if it is down in his notes that he identifies as a man then shouldn’t he have a bit more trust in our healthcare system. They would not call him, she on purpose. As even if they called him she accidentally he would be, well within his right report them and getting compensation for this transgression. Please correct me if I’m wrong as I don’t want to seem ignorant.
@riccardaschaefer
@riccardaschaefer 6 жыл бұрын
His Mother is very very supportive and he still calls their relationship „difficult“? WTF?! Just be grateful for your mother.
@zippers987
@zippers987 5 жыл бұрын
he said his relationship with his mom's art was difficult and complicated. not his mom
@leehill3697
@leehill3697 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm trans, I havent medically transitioned as of late but. If you look like a woman, are pregnant like a woman. I genuinely dont feel you can be upset in the fact that people mistake you for a woman. Correcting people just feels rude and entitled with such a small percentage of population being trans it's not everyone's responsibility around you to respect your pronouns or even get them right.
@xis-by6hm
@xis-by6hm 3 жыл бұрын
And the mum saying ‘she’ about 4 times
@allthatjazz9000
@allthatjazz9000 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody mistook anything. She is STILL a woman! Fact
@allthatjazz9000
@allthatjazz9000 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody mistook anything. She is STILL a woman! Fact
@kgirl1549
@kgirl1549 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree..
@fairyfaeh8875
@fairyfaeh8875 6 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one freaking out because his mom is amazing artist and I actually have some cards that have her art on it
@haleyl398
@haleyl398 5 жыл бұрын
ruby the kaken whos the artisy? her arts AMAZING
@sineadmheard7276
@sineadmheard7276 6 жыл бұрын
"OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE RANDOM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AREN'T MEETING OUR EXPECTATIONS WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW THEM!"
@elenagibbons4719
@elenagibbons4719 6 жыл бұрын
Sinead Heard perhaps he knows that people will assume one way or another and it’s just hard for him to know that people won’t see him as a man. It’s frustrating, but he knows he couldn’t do anything about it.
@TK-wk4hs
@TK-wk4hs 6 жыл бұрын
She is not a man she is a woman and always will be. No matter what she thinks she is a woman.
@otakuthegreat
@otakuthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
@@elenagibbons4719 Her not him fool
@stephenmckenna5929
@stephenmckenna5929 6 жыл бұрын
Dorian has known for years that he is a man yet still keeps long hair, didnt have top surgery even though he doesnt like boobs and conceived even though they could have adopted. You cant resonably expect people to assume youre a man if you dont make physical changes to represent that fact
@yourlocalmurder8138
@yourlocalmurder8138 6 жыл бұрын
Skullhanger 2 there are things you're forgetting. Money. Top surgery is very expensive, and most trans people can't afford it. You also forget that some people want to have their own children, who are biologically related to them. Adoption isn't for everyone.
@Raychillicious
@Raychillicious 6 жыл бұрын
Adoption is expensive and you have to prove your home is a fit environment for a child and you have the money to raise it. Getting preggo is cheap and you don't have anyone looking at your home life and finances.
@BlackTheNerevar
@BlackTheNerevar 6 жыл бұрын
Long hair isn't the issue. Your self expression isn't about gender necessarily. But I agree that they put zero effort into transitioning.
@LuvBugBlaqkHart
@LuvBugBlaqkHart 6 жыл бұрын
Rachael W Isn't that a good thing? If they're not fit to be parents (the house is fit and they have enough money) then they shouldn't have a child lol. Having a child isn't for everyone and it's obvious it's not for them.
@ashdoesstuff
@ashdoesstuff 6 жыл бұрын
@@yourlocalmurder8138 top surgery is usually covered by the NHS if you the meet a requirement. Also Dorian could get a job as well to help pay for the cost. If the partner skeptical of take hormones.
@Baba_Wawa
@Baba_Wawa 5 жыл бұрын
🙄I rolled my eyes so many times during the video I now have a headache. It had nothing to do with any trans issues just at what insufferable, selfish twits the couple came off as. 🙄🙄🙄
@namesarefortheweak9602
@namesarefortheweak9602 5 жыл бұрын
Ash Elemenopea exactly it’s just ridiculous at this point
@Baba_Wawa
@Baba_Wawa 5 жыл бұрын
Kill Meシ I’m so glad I’m not alone. So many people these days are self obsessed to the point of absurdity.
@augenettevanzijl3641
@augenettevanzijl3641 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@mississippiqueen58
@mississippiqueen58 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you exactly just me, myself, and I just selfish hopefully that's not how they are with the baby they seem very immature...
@lucycondon2732
@lucycondon2732 6 жыл бұрын
I have nothing against transgender people or anything like that, but I don’t understand why a lot of them appear to be so offended by nearly everything said, this is new to practically everyone, and instead of trying to teach the general population of their situation, they chose to get offended. It doesn’t improve the perception of transgenders, it weakens it, and for a community as comparatively small as it is, the vocal minority should not scream, nothing against transgenders, this is just an opinion
@samjc3823
@samjc3823 6 жыл бұрын
I am completely in support of people choosing the gender they are. I understand that anatomy doesn't always match who you are as a person and mentally. My confusion lies in being repulsed by being female yet using your female anatomy to conceive and also breastfeed a child but then being annoyed at being labelled as biological mother on a birth certificate. I agree he may well be a man in his own mind but his female body has made that child therefore the part that made that child is a woman and a mother. X
@breeestep1187
@breeestep1187 6 жыл бұрын
You seriously couldnt have said this any more perfect! 👏🏻🙌🏼🤦🏼‍♀️
@FF-by6ci
@FF-by6ci 6 жыл бұрын
Also they were equating dressing as a boy to being one,what has clothing got to do with who you are,I think young children need to be taught that you can wear what you want and play with any toy and also be yourself. They are too preoccupied with gender stereotypes to focus on what the baby's needs are,what will they tell their child when he asks about his mother? sorry we are not your mother,they will confuse that child .
@Vandarera
@Vandarera 6 жыл бұрын
@@FF-by6ci The child won't be confused for children are not born automatically knowing what gender is, and it all depends on how the baby is raised. For example, if you teach the baby that people can always choose to change their gender and that gender doesn't completely define people, then it shouldn't be confusing for the baby.
@FF-by6ci
@FF-by6ci 6 жыл бұрын
​ Vandarera -Children don't know anything about gender nor do they care about it ,gender is learned from society(boys act this way/girls act that way,boys like this/girls like that etc).But a child knows about sex,and will come to know that all children come from a mother(adult female sex) that's the confusion we are talking about,how will you tell a child you came from two men?. They can tell the child what they like after all santa is real to some,but children don't stay children forever.
@04warrick04
@04warrick04 5 жыл бұрын
Sam JP why so stupid?
@Sesh_Gremlin_
@Sesh_Gremlin_ 6 жыл бұрын
Wanting a whole hospital to larp along with you by calling you he/him whilst they try to deliver your child successfully. The absolute state of the 21st century. Whew lad
@zoeincanada
@zoeincanada 6 жыл бұрын
Sesh Gremlin they expect everyone to adjust for them..really sucks..😳
@dubreygaligly4943
@dubreygaligly4943 6 жыл бұрын
Its ridiculous.
@sasak369
@sasak369 6 жыл бұрын
Because using someone's correct pronouns is such an unreasonable expectation compared to such things as using their right name.
@Sesh_Gremlin_
@Sesh_Gremlin_ 6 жыл бұрын
>Wanting the whole world to join in with your LARP just so your feelings don't get hurt Living in reality just isn't some people's strong suit, is it?
@liannephillis438
@liannephillis438 6 жыл бұрын
theyre incorrect pronouns
@kylekent167
@kylekent167 3 жыл бұрын
"you're going to slip up every now and then" Proceeds to absolutely chastise the nurse who is trying her best.
@elizabethk888
@elizabethk888 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same!
@Black_Magic_Woman
@Black_Magic_Woman 2 жыл бұрын
exactly , of course you say the word woman when generalizing birth and labor because bio woman give birth . bio men can't . People need to learn not to be offended with every little thing . Without realizing that others around them also have the right to feel comfortable too ,and don't necessarily mean to be offensive when they assume gender etc. it's getting too much. I will always respect and take people as they are. but I hope to be respected too and have my own boundaries respected .
@audreydoyle5268
@audreydoyle5268 6 ай бұрын
​@@Black_Magic_Woman we are all biological people. If you're talking secs in terms of genitals, why does that determine how a person is treated? Quite perverted if you ask me. Also, 12 year old girls can get pregnant. Would you call them women?
@Black_Magic_Woman
@Black_Magic_Woman 6 ай бұрын
@@audreydoyle5268 that is the dumbest question I've ever read. Are you American ?
@audreydoyle5268
@audreydoyle5268 6 ай бұрын
@@Black_Magic_Woman my nationality is none of your business
@Lessareve
@Lessareve 6 жыл бұрын
This couple clearly still have some growing up to do themselves and need to address their own insecurities as adults and as transgender people. Just wondering whether starting with having baby was the right order of things for their own happiness ... Anyway, hope they'll manage to figure things out.
@shrinerspark
@shrinerspark 6 жыл бұрын
In this case, I don't think they had much of a choice. It would definitely have been riskier to be pregnant after being on HRT, and in any case the timing of the HRT didn't work well for Dorian when combined with when he wanted to have a family. I think they and the child will be okay, although the parents both have a lot of psychological work to do for themselves. I think Dorian will feel much better once his transition is well underway and the dysphoria gets less intense.
@BobSmith-xk5fb
@BobSmith-xk5fb 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a fully post op transMAN and I think this is pure bullcrap. WTF??? lol
@silvercreeperh115
@silvercreeperh115 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am ftm and unable to get anything due to my insurance places being asses, and to top that off something is happening with my breasts and making them BIGGER. It is hell, and the male mammogram doctor said it was nothing and stop worrying. My Dysphoria is hell right now and I have to talk to my real doctor who actually listens and sympathizes with me. Also, fuck having a child I aint doing that shit.
@BobSmith-xk5fb
@BobSmith-xk5fb 6 жыл бұрын
+True Manc LOL you can call me "Sista Bille Bertha Mae Smith".
@BobSmith-xk5fb
@BobSmith-xk5fb 6 жыл бұрын
+True Manc yes but can your doctor make your brain any bigger? What about your IQ? What about your wallet? Can we get your doctor to help you with that receding hair line and that ever expanding waistline?
@BobSmith-xk5fb
@BobSmith-xk5fb 6 жыл бұрын
+Silvercreeper H lol crazy
@elizabethanntarter
@elizabethanntarter 6 жыл бұрын
Say it louder for the people in the back.
@caicant1564
@caicant1564 6 жыл бұрын
God I love Dorian’s mum’s art
@colin4322
@colin4322 5 жыл бұрын
“Dorian uses the term chestfeeding”
@vhead612
@vhead612 5 жыл бұрын
C49S no u didn’t
@phillipestlund9871
@phillipestlund9871 5 жыл бұрын
They are exhausting
@suslu4763
@suslu4763 5 жыл бұрын
@@aliyamoon80 as a leftist... I agree, doesn't change a shit
@pennypillow4445
@pennypillow4445 4 жыл бұрын
imagine telling a doctor whos studied medicine for years 'i know im pregnant but could you please respect my pronouns'
@humanbeing3946
@humanbeing3946 4 жыл бұрын
Breastfeeding is "chestfeeding".
@Connor-qz5ew
@Connor-qz5ew 6 жыл бұрын
as a trans Male this seems a tad off...
@tinyred4512
@tinyred4512 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@magdarosales107
@magdarosales107 6 жыл бұрын
Same here bro.
@LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN
@LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Your comment is like a schizopherenic saying there's something wrong with the mentally retarded person. You're both screwed in the head.
@brooklynskillz3608
@brooklynskillz3608 6 жыл бұрын
They just want a family...then they will turn into men
@aybukebeyza4064
@aybukebeyza4064 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 18 and pre-t, if I was having conversation with that person I'll use the correct pronouns and address them as male. But if I didn't know them and use wrong pronouns, do they have the right to get mad at me? I'm closeted and only my friends know that I'm ftm. When they use the wrong pronouns I don't give a fuck, we even joke about it
@NadiiDK
@NadiiDK 6 жыл бұрын
his mum seems like a sweet person and her art is sooo beautiful
@rosnamunaf7624
@rosnamunaf7624 6 жыл бұрын
Everything she cares about are labeling and pronouns
@manoftrade8928
@manoftrade8928 6 жыл бұрын
*She
@OneMeanArtist
@OneMeanArtist 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously. When the baby was born it wasn't "Oh I'm so glad after all that he's healthy and strong." Instead it was "I had a good midwife who used all the right pronouns so it was nice." Wtf....
@pfw4568
@pfw4568 6 жыл бұрын
@@aspasp9568 That's a women. You can tell because she was born with a vagina. It's not that hard. Next week i will tell you about men and this thing called penis.
@pfw4568
@pfw4568 6 жыл бұрын
@@aspasp9568 I am not Asian. That's Kim Jong-Un's great grandfather.
@hinatau2
@hinatau2 6 жыл бұрын
@@aspasp9568 Science supports gender dysphoria, but she seems completely concerned with pronouns and getting special treatment. Also, science also says no matter how many of us call her a man, that she will continue to have xx chromosomes. She is, and will forever be, biologically female. And I feel bad for that kid being brought up with such a crazy narcissistic set of parents.(Side note, I suppose, I do believe transitioning is good for those actually suffering with gender dysphoria and wouldn't go out of my way to make a trans person uncomfortable/'misgender' them. This woman in particular was just very annoying, self centered, and self entitled. Even trans people in this comment section are disgusted at the lack of effort and how unpleasant she is.)
@toxicxo9373
@toxicxo9373 5 жыл бұрын
imagine ONLY having a homebirth because you don’t want to be referred to as the wrong pronoun...
@maburaho347
@maburaho347 5 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 IKR?
@zippers987
@zippers987 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of people have home births for very simple reasons. it's fine as long as it's safe.
@livg9653
@livg9653 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a fair enough reason. It can be very triggering and cause unnecessary stress during birth if he was misgendered
@micwhitehouse5674
@micwhitehouse5674 4 жыл бұрын
the wrong pronoun is extremely triggering. especially if you're experiencing body dysmorphia. and anyone can have a home birth. there's nothing wrong with it??
@MrM0saic
@MrM0saic 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Lucy omg can the self-obsession get any bigger with these two??? Deal with it 🙄
@amberemma1778
@amberemma1778 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how it can annoy her so much when people in the street call her she... how are they meant to know? She looks like a woman.. she has a pregnant belly..
@ridleygreen7731
@ridleygreen7731 6 жыл бұрын
Amber' Emma *he/him
@amberemma1778
@amberemma1778 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Green she’s a she really
@Afmedic85
@Afmedic85 6 жыл бұрын
Because she wants attention. She thinks the world revolves around her.
@ridleygreen7731
@ridleygreen7731 6 жыл бұрын
Afmedic85 Have you ever considered that maybe you think the world revolves around you because you don't have common decency to respect someone?
@ridleygreen7731
@ridleygreen7731 6 жыл бұрын
Amber' Emma what if everyone called you something you weren't? How would that make you feel?
@flower-ld5id
@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын
at least the top comments are friendly
@astroflight6571
@astroflight6571 6 жыл бұрын
She's a tard. I pity the baby.
@flower-ld5id
@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын
Astroflight i pity you
@flower-ld5id
@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын
wolfy - lmao you mean he doesn't look like a man? he's a trans man. you can't even get it right when you're trying to invalidate us.
@flower-ld5id
@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын
trans people exist and people like you will claim that we are false because of science even though science doesn't conflict with trans people at all and you haven't got an actual clue. i'm here, how i identify doesn't affect anyone, i will never be cis but gender is not what sex you were assigned so i am valid because i say. and people tell me i am invalid, it's you who involve yourself in an argument of our legitimacy when you wouldn't know anything about what it is to be trans so you make the same wrong arguments. i'm valid stop questioning trans people like it's a hypothetical idea, it's our personal identity that you are calling into question from a comfortable distance because you have no stake in the argument and not a clue what you're talking about.
@flower-ld5id
@flower-ld5id 6 жыл бұрын
my body is the same as it was when i was born and i don't plan on having surgery to "hide it". because my body is a girl's and no one can change that. my sex doesn't affect my gender get it into your thick scull. also fuck god and fuck normal humans, i guess that means you
@de4dcult
@de4dcult 6 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the best publicly posted documentary type things that I’ve watched. It was so refreshing how nice, accurate, and clarifying it was to the experience and nothing was offensive or anything which is a first. It’s hard to kinda “represent” but it’s genuinely something I think people have needed to see for ages. Also: These guys are bloody fantastic people and I’m proud to be their friend.
@amiimichaels1048
@amiimichaels1048 5 жыл бұрын
“Lack of awareness of me being a man” If you look like a woman then people will call you a woman 🤷🏻‍♀️
@effie9140
@effie9140 6 жыл бұрын
This is making the trans community look like a complete joke. I honestly feel sorry for the child.
@effie9140
@effie9140 6 жыл бұрын
another special snowflake Because this person is clearly not transgender
@effie9140
@effie9140 6 жыл бұрын
another special snowflake Are you sure you’re watching the same video I did?
@Stardust_7273
@Stardust_7273 6 жыл бұрын
Why? Please explain.Two people are having a child. It happens to millions of people every day.
@GalaxyGal-
@GalaxyGal- 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a trans woman with bad genital dysphoria. He is valid in every way. There are trans men who want to naturally conceive ,and there are trans women who want to impregnate their partner. I'm not one of them. YOU don't get to decide who is a "complete joke," and if you don't like it, you can fuck off a cliff for all I care.
@effie9140
@effie9140 6 жыл бұрын
raerae1281 Well, first of all this person clearly doesn’t have dysphoria which you need to be transgender. Transgender people will do whatever it takes to transition whilst this person is making no effort whatsoever because she isn’t transgender. Testosterone and surgery makes would make a ftm sterile and even though that’s a factor they still go through with it because they are so so self conscious with their wrong bodies. This person is not transgender, just someone trying to hop on the bandwagon. End of story.
@isabellastambolis6484
@isabellastambolis6484 6 жыл бұрын
It's seems they are more concerned about her mental health then if the child she is carrying
@aaaaaaaaaaabe
@aaaaaaaaaaabe 6 жыл бұрын
Izabella de la cruz exfuckinglactly!
@RobinFlysHigh
@RobinFlysHigh 6 жыл бұрын
*his mental health. But I totally agree....
@lscottmanifold9618
@lscottmanifold9618 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXzbi6hne9iSbdU
@flamer38544
@flamer38544 6 жыл бұрын
RobinFlysHigh her? I can call myself an apatchi attack helicopter, but doesn't mean I am one.
@jlc5271
@jlc5271 6 жыл бұрын
Starshine Frankenstein 😂😂🤦‍♂️
@eleanorbeck6245
@eleanorbeck6245 6 жыл бұрын
Met through Les Mis re-enactment that’s the gayest thing I’ve ever heard, haha all the best to them x
@ashmitchell6958
@ashmitchell6958 6 жыл бұрын
hes called Dorian as well like Dorian gay
@renny3816
@renny3816 6 жыл бұрын
Ha straighttttt
@renny3816
@renny3816 6 жыл бұрын
Why do heterosexuals still use my orientation as a derogatory?
@ruthietube
@ruthietube 6 жыл бұрын
MsElbowSFX that’s exactly what I thought 🤣
@livlifeag1902
@livlifeag1902 6 жыл бұрын
MsElbowSFX that is a fucked up comment
@rubingtonthesecond
@rubingtonthesecond 4 жыл бұрын
"apparently the barer of the child has to be put down as the mother" "That's ridiculous" It's a *medical document* they can't put down that a MAN GAVE BIRTH. I'm shocked at how self-centred they are.
@M.O.N.K.3
@M.O.N.K.3 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@SPharaoh
@SPharaoh 4 жыл бұрын
In the fvcking real world, a man don’t give birth. Only a biological woman does.
@zippers987
@zippers987 4 жыл бұрын
I mean you can. it's just words on a paper. you can just say parent one parent two,
@rubingtonthesecond
@rubingtonthesecond 4 жыл бұрын
@@zippers987 I think one of the purposes of a birth certificate is to know exactly who gave birth to the child. But yeah I guess you could put down that parent 1 HAD the baby.
@REVOisMYname
@REVOisMYname 6 жыл бұрын
So someone doesn't like their female body or being womanly, but chooses to become pregnant. Surely someone genuinely wanting to be a male would be repulsed by the idea of carrying a child? If giving birth to a child gives dysphoria, I find it hard to believe that wouldn't negatively impact the child growing up. This is as irresponsible as having a kid whilst infected with HIV.
@searows-music
@searows-music 6 жыл бұрын
this comment literally took years off my life
@rondameravella2885
@rondameravella2885 3 жыл бұрын
@@searows-music Conversely, it added to mine. Thank you for my newfound longevity!
@virgitoledo544
@virgitoledo544 6 жыл бұрын
I support the trans community but their relationship is very immature.
@namesarefortheweak9602
@namesarefortheweak9602 5 жыл бұрын
They seem very confused
@namesarefortheweak9602
@namesarefortheweak9602 5 жыл бұрын
Why is he acting like people aren’t gonna assume that he’s a woman when he has a feminine voice and is pregnant
@nicolem8122
@nicolem8122 5 жыл бұрын
I pushed play and IMMEDIATELY went to the comment section 😆
@angiepereyra2214
@angiepereyra2214 4 жыл бұрын
Nicole M same 😭
@LogieBoi
@LogieBoi 8 ай бұрын
Same
@DebtBuysFreedumb
@DebtBuysFreedumb 5 жыл бұрын
I see pregant dads at walmart all the time.
@thundertechmedia1014
@thundertechmedia1014 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@colleenhoperue5538
@colleenhoperue5538 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@colleenhoperue5538
@colleenhoperue5538 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look next time I'm in Walmart
@smoochumstar
@smoochumstar 3 жыл бұрын
Omggggg lmaooo
@krystalfontenot9508
@krystalfontenot9508 6 жыл бұрын
I didn’t see any male Mentality in either of them .
@searows-music
@searows-music 6 жыл бұрын
you mean like misogyny?
@o0Avalon0o
@o0Avalon0o 6 жыл бұрын
I have lovely family/friends that are trans, that act nothing like Dorian; I could be wrong but he comes off as entitled. I hope he finds peace in the future.
@smilodonhannah
@smilodonhannah 5 жыл бұрын
o0Avalon0o I followed him on Tumblr for a while before and after his pregnancy. Regardless of his gender identity, he's not a very nice person.
@andrewtock8016
@andrewtock8016 5 жыл бұрын
These to girls are.sick
@kiwidreams3
@kiwidreams3 5 жыл бұрын
o0Avalon0o it seems they are 2 entitled rich kids.
@wheresjasmine
@wheresjasmine 5 жыл бұрын
He's from Somerset what do you expect I hope people know that I'm partly joking and not everyone from Somerset is like this lmao
@Scar-jg4bn
@Scar-jg4bn Жыл бұрын
Most trans people are entitled and self-centered; it's part of their pathology unfortunately.
@onikatanyamarajpetty9761
@onikatanyamarajpetty9761 6 жыл бұрын
“Chest feeding” lmao I’m screaming😂😂
@charlieCav
@charlieCav 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious 🤣
@oliviashore6748
@oliviashore6748 5 жыл бұрын
This isnt even about a pregnancy, it's about her being offended when people refer to her as a female. It's all about her, not the baby!
@beefnoodles3941
@beefnoodles3941 6 жыл бұрын
Its like a seahorse thing with the father carrying the baby instead of the mother.
@tishaw.8254
@tishaw.8254 6 жыл бұрын
chest feeding?? men have breast too ya know.... really just trying too hard to be different
@lanieelizabeth9487
@lanieelizabeth9487 6 жыл бұрын
Tisha W. yes men have pectorals but not breasts, they cannot produce milk unless they are transgender and we’re originally a female.
@lanieelizabeth9487
@lanieelizabeth9487 6 жыл бұрын
^ *were
@alexischilds2652
@alexischilds2652 6 жыл бұрын
lanie contact actually that is completely false men have experienced sympathy beast feeding experience where they actually produce milk once the mother gives birth
@lanieelizabeth9487
@lanieelizabeth9487 6 жыл бұрын
Alexis Childs yes but it’s not natural breastfeeding seen as it called ‘sympathy feeding’
@trilikvlt
@trilikvlt 6 жыл бұрын
lanie contact But there's some kind of disease that makes the affected male produce breast milk.
@evae.7696
@evae.7696 6 жыл бұрын
I've been following Dorian for years on tumblr and vine, but seeing him like this, it's a reminder how strong he and alex are. Honestly he's living his truth and that's great.
@b115-v9q
@b115-v9q 6 жыл бұрын
she
@biggaydave5905
@biggaydave5905 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad it’s not the truth
@evae.7696
@evae.7696 3 жыл бұрын
@@b115-v9q He's a he, go be hateful somewhere else
@evae.7696
@evae.7696 3 жыл бұрын
@@biggaydave5905 Don't call yourself an LGBTQueen if you don't support trans people hun, it's in the title
@BeautyQ94
@BeautyQ94 2 жыл бұрын
You mean she
@dustiestsoul7278
@dustiestsoul7278 5 жыл бұрын
All i see is 2 lesbians confused on what exactly they wanna be. Yikes.
@andwal13
@andwal13 5 жыл бұрын
Im.so confused!
@chloescovers6749
@chloescovers6749 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t be saying that they are both men and they ask us viewers to respect that. They also ask us to respect their choice on how they live their life. Don’t be homophobic
@georgewilliams2511
@georgewilliams2511 6 жыл бұрын
CHESTFEEDING 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀 I’m done
@Mysasser1
@Mysasser1 6 жыл бұрын
George Williams 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@adamgatter3634
@adamgatter3634 6 жыл бұрын
George Williams same hahaha
@secret3811
@secret3811 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rowanaembers4929
@rowanaembers4929 6 жыл бұрын
Show some respect!! Rude much!!
@otakuthegreat
@otakuthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
@@rowanaembers4929 You can't show respect to someone that has lost their mind and thinks their a gender that they are obviously not
@Icecreamandradness
@Icecreamandradness 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve followed this family for a while now, and I can confidentially say what compassionate and caring parents they are to their son. It makes me so happy to see a strong relationship between both parents and child that focuses on love and positive communication, as both a person who works in childcare and who aspires to be a mother one day. I think it would benefit all of us if we remembered the peace that comes from respecting each other and respecting parents who may have a different life and dynamic from ours. As long as they care for their child and foster good relationships, then is it not good that we have families who are different? We can’t all be the same. Much love 💕💕 (And I would much rather have children not be afraid if they find themselves to be queer or trans, personally)
@elliegoldie5902
@elliegoldie5902 6 жыл бұрын
Icecreamandradness i agree with you but i asked a question to better understand Dorian having the baby,i wish them well,and their beautiful baby,x
@Icecreamandradness
@Icecreamandradness 6 жыл бұрын
emma ca1tlyn I’m sorry, but I don’t feel it would be safe to publicly share their tumblr here with so many hateful comments. They’re cosplayers in the les miserables community, though. So I don’t think it would take much searching.
@Icecreamandradness
@Icecreamandradness 6 жыл бұрын
Wolfy What’s fake?
@Icecreamandradness
@Icecreamandradness 6 жыл бұрын
Wolfy Coulda just said you were transphobic without all that fluff, dude ;D
@xx_shooting_star_xx5197
@xx_shooting_star_xx5197 6 жыл бұрын
Icecreamandradness in what way is this healthy..for a child to grow up seeing his two clearly female mothers call themselves men. Yes, if they are loving, caring, kind, this is better than some children have it..but in my eyes it is emotional abuse. What about other school children..who arent in denial of science? These are the same people to tell you there is no god..proven by science..but you can change your sex.
@Christina.N.
@Christina.N. 6 жыл бұрын
It seems like in this society being who you ARE is the most revolutionary act.
@usbcaufhdmi
@usbcaufhdmi 6 жыл бұрын
This is some dope ass quote =D
@marissa6951
@marissa6951 6 жыл бұрын
This person is not transgender. She simply identifies as a man. But she is simply a women. She has a vagina, she is pregnant...CONGRATS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, it’s a woman.
@Sol-zz9vv
@Sol-zz9vv 6 жыл бұрын
people's genitals and their gender identity are two completely different things
@bunnylovesapples
@bunnylovesapples 6 жыл бұрын
Just because she is physically a woman doesnt mean that you say "she". if you have an onion ring in a box of fries it wont be a frie. it is still an onion ring. My friends name is Carolin and she gets really angry if somebody says Caroline or Carolina because thats not her name. And mean while people get angry if their name is spelled wrong transgender people get angry if the pronoun is wrong. Because its not who they are.
@marissa6951
@marissa6951 6 жыл бұрын
Mara Vadis yeah no, you’re comment makes no sense to me. I don’t mean to be starting an argument- I might just be having a stupid day and that’s why I don’t really understand your whole thing but oh well.
@charleneanders6551
@charleneanders6551 5 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for this child..
@queen_of_domination
@queen_of_domination 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@LtCobraYT
@LtCobraYT 6 жыл бұрын
never been so confused in my entire life with that intro
@shaybae85625
@shaybae85625 6 жыл бұрын
So they're both trans men??? So now they are gay men... ok and they expect us to understand and get this right... the poor child will be so confused as i am
@elenagibbons4719
@elenagibbons4719 6 жыл бұрын
Shay Rashad or perhaps the child will understand because he grows up with it? Like families that have divorces parents and step siblings and all that, they’re confusing to the outside person but the majority of time the people actually IN the situation understand it.
@shaybae85625
@shaybae85625 6 жыл бұрын
@@elenagibbons4719 well at the end of the day shes a woman, men CAN'T have menstrual cycles, men CAN'T have babies, men CANT breast feed... So with that being said this poor child will go to school and say... my dad birthed me, the child might except it but as far as understanding it i dont think so... this is hard for anyone to understand, if i wanna say im a lion doesn't make it so, and i CAN'T force someone to believe i am just because of the way i feel
@daniellemelendez3544
@daniellemelendez3544 6 жыл бұрын
You’re so right I pray for this child. The child will grow up in a world of delusions with two narcissistic lesbian parents. 🤦🏽‍♂️
@APBTLoverS
@APBTLoverS 6 жыл бұрын
My biggest question is "he" had to of had a dick shoved inside him to get pregnant. Why would you want vaginal sex if your a man. Gay men have butt sex...??
@brooklynskillz3608
@brooklynskillz3608 6 жыл бұрын
@@shaybae85625 omg...so different
@yogibear9546
@yogibear9546 6 жыл бұрын
Worried about pronouns more then safe birth...YEP 2018
@tiffanyr8990
@tiffanyr8990 5 жыл бұрын
Out his pussy at that ....mental
@zippers987
@zippers987 5 жыл бұрын
when were they more worried about pronouns than a safe birth? i must have missed that part. i saw them saying it was hard to hear the wrong pronouns during the birth but it was all worth it in the end bc both dorian and the baby were safe.
@JessiiW81
@JessiiW81 4 жыл бұрын
@@zippers987 start listening at 5:27
@zippers987
@zippers987 4 жыл бұрын
@Elisabeta Cernea acknowledging the biological traits doesn't require the use of different pronouns than the ones they specifically requested
@zippers987
@zippers987 4 жыл бұрын
@Elisabeta Cernea he is a person who was able to be pregnant and had a baby that they're going to raise using he/him pronouns. I think they acknowledge the child will more than likely not be trans, but even if they do raise him as a boy, they would not make it difficult for the child to present as a girl if they eventually choose to.
@TheBlazFilip
@TheBlazFilip 5 жыл бұрын
I think the most upsetting this about this whole ordeal is how selfish these people are. Literally all they care about is labeling them correctly and people using the correct pronouns, and frankly, it's really petty. I'm a straight dude, and if everyone suddenly started referring to me as a lesbian girl, I wouldn't give two fucks about it. They're selfish to the point where they'd rather deliver the baby at home, just because in the hospital, someone might mispronounce them. Like, who gives a fuck? You're about to have a baby, your top priority should be safety and well being of the baby, yet you're willing to sacrifice all that just so YOU feel safe, and nobody says she instead of a he. Talk about privilege.
@SamEsss
@SamEsss 6 жыл бұрын
“It is very important for *myyyyy* emotional health...” Becoming a mother revolves entirely around you putting your child’s needs first. Not yours. How will all of this affect a child growing up? How will this child affectively navigate his or her world with such a confusing beginning? Regardless of how you feel about the subject, a child going into school with two transgender fathers is going to inevitably feel different and ostracized. That’s not even taking into account how mean kids are and how society is only starting to accept transgender as a thing recently. Poor kid is gonna have a hard time ahead of him because his or her parents want to make them a pawn in their political feelings.
@NKatz
@NKatz 6 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@moistchunk9143
@moistchunk9143 2 жыл бұрын
@@NKatz well, good thing hes not a mother
@BeautyQ94
@BeautyQ94 2 жыл бұрын
Preach
@cress3011
@cress3011 6 жыл бұрын
Looks more feminine than I do
@AutumnSwift2
@AutumnSwift2 6 жыл бұрын
cress same. Lol
@ekkocell6870
@ekkocell6870 6 жыл бұрын
Bennett McCoy lmao no
@ekkocell6870
@ekkocell6870 6 жыл бұрын
cress of course he does, problably he is still only some months on t
@marchhoney6329
@marchhoney6329 6 жыл бұрын
He went on HRT after having the baby. He still looks very feminine here because he didn’t start his physical transition yet
@barofsoap1yt284
@barofsoap1yt284 6 жыл бұрын
Bennett McCoy hes a he. That's how HE was born. Nothing will change that...
@candicec5469
@candicec5469 6 жыл бұрын
Whether or not you agree with LGBTQ rights, I think we can all agree this couple is absolutely insufferable.
@ravenr876
@ravenr876 5 жыл бұрын
I will never call Evil Good
@kiera__willow7660
@kiera__willow7660 5 жыл бұрын
"Oh no i completely understand here's £100 go buy yourself a suit" I already love the grandparents 😂
@francineleahy
@francineleahy 4 жыл бұрын
+
@abbyschneider4644
@abbyschneider4644 6 жыл бұрын
I follow y'all on tumblr, it's so cool hearing your voices and watching this knowing now how everything turned out -- when it said 'dorian wants a homebirth' i had like war flashbacks to when you were posting 'homebirths gone tits up', also alex saying "i didn't like my first puberty dont know if i'll like my second" is such a mood
@SeveralScreamingCats
@SeveralScreamingCats 6 жыл бұрын
hey can you share their tumblr with me? I'm trying really hard to remember their usernames cause I used to follow them but I forgot.
@abbyschneider4644
@abbyschneider4644 6 жыл бұрын
look if u wanna send hate don't bother they're gonna be on hiatus til the commotion dies down
@handlestache1232
@handlestache1232 6 жыл бұрын
They’re both so great!
@G-vu9hq
@G-vu9hq 6 жыл бұрын
What are their tumblrs?
@abbyschneider4644
@abbyschneider4644 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna give you their tumblrs just so you can send them hate lmao
@chockycake1
@chockycake1 6 жыл бұрын
When they were registering the birth what were they honestly expecting?
@corysauers803
@corysauers803 6 жыл бұрын
chockycake1 some common human decency, hopefully. But even in the video Dorians husband says that they didn't say anything he wasn't expecting, he was just probably hoping for the best.
@marissa6951
@marissa6951 6 жыл бұрын
Cory Sauers common decency? Identifying as something you aren’t does not run in families. The baby has a penis. The baby is a boy. Was that hard? Not at all.
@FletcherYPng
@FletcherYPng 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh as a transgender person this really really erks me the wrong way.
@h3c0x
@h3c0x 6 жыл бұрын
Fletcher Yandere ugh me too tbh
@user-oc7cz3ep6f
@user-oc7cz3ep6f 4 жыл бұрын
So basically I just wasted 23 minutes of my life and learnt nothing.....
@elsawhite1019
@elsawhite1019 3 жыл бұрын
No one made you
@rondameravella2885
@rondameravella2885 3 жыл бұрын
@@elsawhite1019 His parents certainly made him...
@jougjimmadome
@jougjimmadome 6 жыл бұрын
All the best of luck to both the fathers, Julian is beautiful and it sucks that they had to go through so much shit to have him
@manman-nc9vq
@manman-nc9vq 6 жыл бұрын
James Mertens Ya mean mom and dad?
@soccerbug22
@soccerbug22 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Joestar No, they mean dad and dad.
@unusunus4613
@unusunus4613 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Joestar There's two fathers
@manman-nc9vq
@manman-nc9vq 6 жыл бұрын
ÖRLOGSKAPTEN #MAKEKZbinGREATAGAIN No, it's a GIRL and a BOY.
@prophetic5749
@prophetic5749 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Joestar NO TWO FATHERS
@hallwnby
@hallwnby 6 жыл бұрын
I’m trans I’m 100% never having kids but I’m going to adopt, I hope I can be as good a dad to my child as he is.
@elliegoldie5902
@elliegoldie5902 6 жыл бұрын
Gerd Wey yep i have to agree
@dejaa
@dejaa 6 жыл бұрын
Right when I thought I started to understand transgender people
@Goatings
@Goatings 6 жыл бұрын
typcially if youre not transgender you wont fully understand and thats perfectly ok! no one expects you to fully understand something youre not, they key is to just be open minded, wish you the best of luck and i hope youll come to understand
@ellaw3473
@ellaw3473 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne understand transgender people??? Like.. Really? They r no different from anyone else
@dejaa
@dejaa 6 жыл бұрын
Ella W umm 🤔 I never thought calling someone a transgender person was insulting. I’m saying it how it is. When your transgender you get put in the transgender category. Like I’m gay so I get put in the category of ‘gay people’ but anyways this comment is old and you just want something to get in your feelings about
@ellaw3473
@ellaw3473 6 жыл бұрын
Pashe Yvonne in confused something to get in my feeling about?? I was saying what so hard to "understand" about transgender people.
@dejaa
@dejaa 6 жыл бұрын
Ella W yes in your feelings cause you taking what I say so personally. And it’s confusing when you get upset with people for trying to be respectful and address you as a women. Because that’s what they see. A pregnant women, and him getting mad instead of just correcting them or leave it be. Plus I’m confused on the two trans man thing. But I don’t see why me being confused is your business.
@johnnydancer1969
@johnnydancer1969 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of 'snow-flakery' in this documentary is worrying
@protambike7258
@protambike7258 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@IlastarothTayre
@IlastarothTayre 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I was so surprised to see you guys! I've been following Dorian and Alex on tumblr for years, and they're great people and great parents. (Also great cosplayers I mean Les Mis goals right there) I am so glad they get to share their story. You go Dorian! Keep being proud and wonderful xxxx
@FerneBryan
@FerneBryan 6 жыл бұрын
IlastarothTayre hi can I ask a favour? What’s their tumblr name? I wanna follow them 😭 xx
@IlastarothTayre
@IlastarothTayre 6 жыл бұрын
Ferne Bryan sure! They're "enjoloras" and "softgrantaire" if I'm not mistaken 👌
@SwiftWindKCJohnson
@SwiftWindKCJohnson 6 жыл бұрын
What is their tumblr??
@pearls-for-cats2709
@pearls-for-cats2709 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I recognize those tumblr names! I think I might of been following them for years too. God thats so crazy to actually see what they are like in a documentary
@IlastarothTayre
@IlastarothTayre 6 жыл бұрын
Eliza M Leai right? I clicked on the video because I'm subscribed and I was interested and I was like "...Dorian? That's Dorian. That's Enjolras! And his Grantaire Alex! My boys" it's nice to see them outside of the site, they seem like truly interesting people
@Vxruxxss
@Vxruxxss 6 жыл бұрын
this weird as hell.
@phoebe969
@phoebe969 6 жыл бұрын
They look like handsome elven kings such beautiful curly hair
@phoebe969
@phoebe969 6 жыл бұрын
he's not a she
@glitterchick91
@glitterchick91 5 жыл бұрын
Chestfeeding. Are you for real.
@namesarefortheweak9602
@namesarefortheweak9602 5 жыл бұрын
Ciara McCabe ikr it’s pretty ridiculous
@LucidDreamer15
@LucidDreamer15 4 жыл бұрын
Ciara McCabe Oml calm down its not even that different 🤦🏼‍♀️
@AF3NI
@AF3NI 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 🤦🏿‍♂️
@TrevaH1220
@TrevaH1220 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should have adopted if this couple doesn’t like how the “baby bump” messes with their body image? Plenty of kids out there who need good homes.
@alexleplain4821
@alexleplain4821 6 жыл бұрын
The kid just pops out "hi mum" "I'm genderless"LAMO
@namesarefortheweak9602
@namesarefortheweak9602 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Le plain lmao
@antoniacapellaborges6566
@antoniacapellaborges6566 6 жыл бұрын
I’m really sorry this may come off as rude but I’m not trying to be disrespectful but.... CHESTFEEDING??! 🤣 Never heard of this one😂 Props to them tho 👏🏾🎉
@lordfreeza_
@lordfreeza_ 6 жыл бұрын
Antonia Capella Borges why "props" ? what they are saying is ridiculous and nonsensical... She's a woman... She's an adult female human being... That's all a woman is, doesn't matter what she wants to "identify" as..
@lucyidek9546
@lucyidek9546 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Freeza You are horrid for saying that They do not effect you if someone wants to identify as another gender let them 😡👿
@antoniacapellaborges6566
@antoniacapellaborges6566 6 жыл бұрын
Lucy Thomas exactly thank you for speaking up 👏🏾 tell’em Auntie Lucy!
@antoniacapellaborges6566
@antoniacapellaborges6566 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Freeza because whatever your beliefs are they are our fellow humans comrades and deserve respect. Plus they just had a baby so congratulations are the most basic of things
@lordfreeza_
@lordfreeza_ 6 жыл бұрын
Antonia Capella Borges how is it disrespect? Respecting your fellow human beings doesn't mean accepting everything they say as true regardless of reality.. If a white person "identified" as black would it be disrespectful to point out they aren't?? I am not saying they can't "identify as a Man" whatever that even means, but they don't have the right to demand everyone else pretend along with them.. A woman is an adult female human being, they are all three of these things so how is saying that they are a woman disrespectful???
@kaidencemadison6335
@kaidencemadison6335 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that mom is a amazing artist
@christinewalker7759
@christinewalker7759 6 жыл бұрын
Watched 30 seconds and realized this isn't my cup of tea but best of luck to them.
@aeckler2766
@aeckler2766 6 жыл бұрын
christine walker this is seriously the best thing I’ve read all year.
@kwood7582
@kwood7582 6 жыл бұрын
When he said “suck it Beyoncé” 😂
@inkovia1992
@inkovia1992 6 жыл бұрын
I love his moms artwork then i realized why, i have her calenders on my wall and i showed my mom and she was as shocked as i was, now my friend is going through an identity crises and they love her artwork too, i think ill remember this!!
@martinlaursen4020
@martinlaursen4020 6 жыл бұрын
5:27 "Dorian wants a home birth to avoid being misgendered and to help with his dysphoria" Translated from idiot to english this reads "I want a more unsafe birth for my child because I cant handle my emotions"
@sisi7304
@sisi7304 4 жыл бұрын
actually, if you watch to the end, he ends up going to the hospital because the baby was in distress, so he didn't want an unsafe birth, he wanted safety & correct pronouns, also it's not about "handling emotions", misgendering feels physically painful for some trans & non-binary people, I know it does for me, and he literally described the birth as traumatic to a certain degree
@seth1047
@seth1047 4 жыл бұрын
We should say ‘pregnant people’ not ‘pregnant women’? No, this is just idiotic.
@ella3347
@ella3347 4 жыл бұрын
Nugremag Nesiltooth some people in this world are crazy 😂😂
@TheKarla0804
@TheKarla0804 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know what they were expecting ! They both didn't change legaly their gender so wtf And the way he corrected that lady like wtf so rude Okay it's great to see some change but have some manners or respect
@creating.casper
@creating.casper 6 жыл бұрын
Karla Wo he felt uncomfortable by it, it's always better to correct the person, so that they learn rather than sit in silence and be uncomfortable
@ellaw3473
@ellaw3473 6 жыл бұрын
Karla well how would u like to be called a man..
@creating.casper
@creating.casper 6 жыл бұрын
Ella W considering the fact that I am one, yes I would like it
@TheKarla0804
@TheKarla0804 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i know i try to understand their prospective but i felt like he was a little bit hostile
@colorbandiits
@colorbandiits 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's incredibly rude to call someone who has expressed that they are a man a woman. If someone kept calling you a different name would you consider it rude to correct them?
@jamesh9124
@jamesh9124 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a transguy, I don't understand why another transman would get pregnant? I couldn't think of anything more dysphoric... Not hating just curious, like we hate our genitals so much we need surgery, why is he having sex?
@Zombiisnt
@Zombiisnt 6 жыл бұрын
Considering how much it costs to have someone carry a baby for you I don't blame them!
@captainnoface7123
@captainnoface7123 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas H Sorry but like not every single lady trans guy hates their genitals, don’t make such broad assumptions about the community /: From one trans dude to the next
@strwbrybabyg245
@strwbrybabyg245 6 жыл бұрын
Bc it's a sham
@dackjanielsmeup
@dackjanielsmeup 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand either. I'm a cis female and can't stand the idea of giving birth at all, it looks horrific. As a trans man, wouldn't that be a million times worse?! Not only would he have to go through the pain, which is already traumatic for many women, but with dysphoria as well? I don't understand why people feel the need to have their biological child, they can do it if they want to, but it makes absolutely no sense at all.
@HollieMoodie
@HollieMoodie 6 жыл бұрын
Because she is a confused girl going through a phase.
@JELLIETOTTIE
@JELLIETOTTIE 5 жыл бұрын
I am female, 55yrs old and do try to be understanding of all people, races and sexual preferences, I have got quite angry watching this, expecting people to relate and accept you as "male" yet you want the privilege of being a mother. You cant expect to be taken seriously, you can not have the best of both worlds when it suits. I was hoping to learn something today but I am sadly more confused and feel its a misguided representation of the people trying to find their own identity and to be accepted for that.
@2607daniel2607
@2607daniel2607 3 жыл бұрын
I am your right man for a good one and I hope you like the rest of this vidio
@sistaondadeen4578
@sistaondadeen4578 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@narmeenp2770
@narmeenp2770 4 жыл бұрын
When the midwife said " if you give pain meds to laboring women they'll take it" she was referring to other pregnant women not him . They both made the midwife feel like she misgendered him but she didn't. And honestly even though I respect everyone and their choices but I too wudve definitely thought he's a female just by the looks
@colemarie46
@colemarie46 6 жыл бұрын
I really admire all of your strength going through this. You choosing to be public with the process is going to give a lot of relief to other transgender people who are in the same position of wanting a family but not knowing if they can go through with it. Congratulations for the birth and health of your son and good luck on your future hormone treatments. You will always have people who support you.
@SlickRick214
@SlickRick214 6 жыл бұрын
Cole Marie what strength? A soldier, fireman, medic, policeman and etc have strength. Seems to me everyone wants to celebrate every minuscule thing that someone else does in their actions
@SlickRick214
@SlickRick214 6 жыл бұрын
toOmoide no I don't understand, because you know what they're greater things in this world that need the attention but instead we blow smoke up people's asses such as this example
@kierah16
@kierah16 6 жыл бұрын
ricardo rocha Agreed. This vid is completely asinine. WOMEN get pregnant, give birth and BREASTfeed. You can't completely disassociate yourself from your womanhood so much so that you HATE a feminine picture in your likeness....but then turn around and fully take advantage of the opportunity to live femininity in its peak essence by giving birth AND going so far as to breastfeed (all whole changing the name to suit your own agenda). And to add insult to injury- feel a way about not being called a man! 🤦As women, we are life-givers.... If you want to be a life-maker, then adopt, as pregnancy and all that it entails is completely the DEFINITION of femininity and being a woman. It's what separates us from our male counterparts. Again... No judgements here. I merely pointed out the irony. 🤷
@chanellemey2797
@chanellemey2797 6 жыл бұрын
ricardo rocha Oh fuck off.
@astranoon
@astranoon 6 жыл бұрын
Also, I feel like the ability to go through a pregnancy is a gift, and many women are unable to do so. Many infertile women becoming extremely depressed.
@shandasalad
@shandasalad 6 жыл бұрын
i know he did not just come for beyonce like that
@BETH78900X
@BETH78900X 4 жыл бұрын
The level of self indulgence is astounding
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