I’d argue that soldier boys ability to destroy V and thus nullifying supes pushes him to S class alone
@caius60194 ай бұрын
Yea he beats everybody in the verse besides Homelander. And even then it's dangerous for homelander. When they fought at Herogasm soldier boy already busted his load lol, if he's fresh it's super close
@AdaptedInfiltrator4 ай бұрын
It takes him over a minute to launch it except when he has ptsd. It’s fitting that Homelander is the only S tier but if anyone else would be in it, then yeah it would be Soldier Boy
@irishwristwatch86454 ай бұрын
@@AdaptedInfiltrator although it takes a while to launch the actual blast, in the scene with the tnt twins it is shown that even while charging, the V in other supes is still rendered ineffective.
@AdaptedInfiltrator4 ай бұрын
@@irishwristwatch8645 I thought it was just because the tnt twins were out of practice for years. V Butcher and V Hughie were near Soldier Boy when he blasted Kimiko. They didn’t lose their powers then. Kimiko and Starlight kept their powers despite Soldier Boy charging up near them. The PTSD made his blast happen way faster for the tnt twins
@michaelkenwell91464 ай бұрын
I'd say he matches Homelander on S-Tier thanks to that ability, with his lack of flight/speed is being his main weakness. He lacks mobility, but definitely matches Homelander's endurance and physical strength clearly onscreen, with Butcher having similar powers couldn't really do much damage to him or slow him down a lot at the tower in the S3 finale.
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd4 ай бұрын
If there was a hero with milk manipulation, homelander would be counting his days
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
In one comics there Superman becomes milkman it’s an actual thing search it up if you want
@wantetTobeagangster4 ай бұрын
Firecracker there is
@MynameisBoxxy124 ай бұрын
Wait until Mother's Milk gets his dose
@JT-km6th4 ай бұрын
Misfits milk man solos Homelander
@nathangaspacio61284 ай бұрын
@@Lumantrix If I remember correctly that was the 34th Superman comic right? He became a milkman but because he was so fast he became the leader of the milk company and essentially ruled over it. Search up superman milk rule 34 for more info.
@HappyBirdwingButterfly-bv9te4 ай бұрын
He didnt even rank ryan, he soloed stormfromnt unintentionally being a 12 year olf kid
@Muser9204 ай бұрын
Personally i'd put him just lightly below temp v butcher
@starfishze6124 ай бұрын
@@Muser920no what stormfront at the time was better than temp v butcher
@ryanmarlin29743 ай бұрын
@@starfishze612oh I doubt that lmao. Temp v butcher fought home lander all out.
@ryanmarlin29743 ай бұрын
@@starfishze612temp v butcher is only below Maeve, soldier boy, and homelander, in that order.
@thunderpokemon24563 ай бұрын
He would be stronger than homelander thats why butcher wanted him to fight
@bonez61724 ай бұрын
It’s a shame Kessler Butcher wasn’t mentioned
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Wasn’t sure where to put him tbh. Need a bit more info to be sure
@error-42694 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction slightly below Temp V butcher until further notice.
@MrKeen-vy6yn4 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction honestly i feel like there was he is clearly above someone like neuman who he basically no diffed
@galanga218904 ай бұрын
@@error-4269 I'd put him on the same level or slightly higher tbh. Neuman was specifically pointed out to be absurdly durable even for a supe and his tendrils tore her apart like it was nothing
@Seasonal-Shadow_46744 ай бұрын
@@MrKeen-vy6yn but Neuman had no prep. Bigger question is, why didnt she Pop Butcher’s head or do any blood bending, the moment Butcher entered the room
@kaitospin39444 ай бұрын
Starlight is toothless, her powers are all bark but no bite.
@kevaughrichardson25954 ай бұрын
Starlight is gonna be clockin next season just wait and she definitely on the top tiers in the verse
@BradPlayz114 ай бұрын
aw hell naw she could probably take on homelander. just blind the enemy and no laser eyes
@fredbrad20364 ай бұрын
@@BradPlayz11lmao no, starlight tried multiple times but is then stopped dead in her tracks by her realising homelander would instantly kill her.
@ryanstrilogy4 ай бұрын
@@fredbrad2036 heres some leaks about starlight in season 5 (1 is confirmed) 1. light speed flight. this will make her about 100 times faster then homelander and about 250 times faster than atrain (confirmed) 2. she will be able to absorb electromagnetic radiation (UV light, infrared light, gamma rays, etc) 3. she will be able to use her energy blasts as a beam, not just a big blast if all these are true she will compete with homelander, especially since she could abosrb the infra red light from his beam (thats heat)
@tysonpeterson95524 ай бұрын
@@ryanstrilogyYea I don't think the end game fight is gonna be between homelander and starlight.I also don't think she's actually gonna fly at light speed
@elhood40604 ай бұрын
People complaining about homelander bleeding from steel straw to his ear like maeve ap isn't high enough to at least injury him in such a vulnerable area.
@Seasonal-Shadow_46744 ай бұрын
@elhood4060 Also HL wasnt even trying on Maeve
@WhiteNoBeard4714 ай бұрын
Yeah, but try to shove a plastic straw in some cardboard, and it'll crumple up, not go through the cardboard.
@elhood40604 ай бұрын
@@WhiteNoBeard471 now if you find a weak spot where it's wet and hit it hard. Different story
@WhiteNoBeard4714 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060 if homelander's ears are that weak, he wouldn't really be all that puch of a threat. Just lob a bomb in the general area, and he's fucked
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060agreed. Confirms soldier boy has greater durability
@tdl13154 ай бұрын
Its not a inconsistency that kimiko is vulnerable to bullets. Some super heros have super durability, others dont. Kimiko is one of the subes who dont have super durability, instead, she makes up for that with a high regenerative factor. Homelander on the other hand is bullet prof. Dont say its a "inconsistency" on the show's part because you didnt pay attention
@bigsolidjay81284 ай бұрын
Durability in the boys is very inconsistent, yeah your point on kimiko is right, but that doesn’t change that there are a LOT of inconsistencies
@tdl13154 ай бұрын
@@bigsolidjay8128 such as? A lot of people point to homelander and the metal straw thing ignoring the fact that the person wilding the metal straw had super strenght AND it was shoved directly into his ear, a weak spot
@bratprica63834 ай бұрын
@@bigsolidjay8128 I personally didn't notice any inconsistencies. Even in the show itself (or in Gen V) there is a news report or something that says a lot of supes exhibit superhuman durability. "A lot" means that there are supes that don't have superhuman durability.
@jenishmaharjan96554 ай бұрын
@@tdl1315 Superman destroys Homelander
@tdl13154 ай бұрын
@@jenishmaharjan9655 ... Wtf does that have to do with my comment?
@HauntingHorrors-vl1gr4 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy shoud have been put in S category
@heavenlysteel83374 ай бұрын
Yep. He's a goddamn juggernaut. Probably the most durable known supe and has an op ability. Mobility is pretty much his only weakness.
@DomenicoV-j6d4 ай бұрын
Then v butcher too
@Joebama.Nicker4 ай бұрын
@@DomenicoV-j6d nah v butcher doesnt have nuke nor can fly, however kessler butcher is S tier
@crota-154 ай бұрын
@@heavenlysteel8337imagine he had homelanders flight too 💀
@Anonanon454 ай бұрын
So should Ryan and Black Noir based on the cominc
@markusnixon31564 ай бұрын
I'm no expert on the subject but I do believe Soldier Boy is still a better fighter then Homelander, not like Captain America or anything, just is pretty skilled, while Homelander is more just okay, that being said, yeah there's no way he's physically stronger then Homelander, come on guys! 😆
@edgaralanpoe28084 ай бұрын
True, when homelander gos all out, he choked SB out, he's flat out stronger than everyone else, just fight poorly
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Soldier boy has shown similar, if not better combat compared to butcher who's obviously well trained and can contend with stronger people based on skill alone. This video is biased, as Soldier boy doesn't just simply overpower butcher. He also had to find openings and knock butcher to the ground. Soldier boy is a trained soldier and far skilled than homelander.
@Dickinthesenutzs274 ай бұрын
@@alatusedits soldier boy wasnt an actual soldier, he was a mascot just like homie the only difference was he got to actually participate in small events i.e the Nicaragua incident where he got captured and we got to see he was much more tactical compared to Homelander and was much more utilizing of his weapons like the shield he used on black noir
@bluey83024 ай бұрын
Bro solider boy has a godzilla type blast that strips supes of their power. WTF he is easily S tier
@markusnixon31564 ай бұрын
@@bluey8302 That has nothing to do with my comment?
@AverageMicrosoftPaintEnjoyer4 ай бұрын
The only argument that is convinsing soldier boy being stronger than homelander is his atomic blast ability whitch removes V from supes body Theoretically it could one shot homelander But in physical atributes homelander is indeed stronger
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
I mean Maeve was able to survive it
@AverageMicrosoftPaintEnjoyer4 ай бұрын
@@Lumantrix yea you're right homelander will not die but he shoud lost all Powers and when you are just a human soldier boy can kill you even when he is exhausted
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@AverageMicrosoftPaintEnjoyer yes
@nickisnotgnarly4 ай бұрын
I don’t know about durability tho because if you look at solider boy vs homelander after their fight homelander seems more affected by it
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@nickisnotgnarly He does have a bruise
@KlynerKaiOffical4 ай бұрын
1:43 Sister Sage does actually have regeneration. It’s not particularly good but it can heal her from a bullet to the head. She has to lobotomies her brain regularly to prevent it from killing her thanks to her regenerative abilities
@ProjektTaku4 ай бұрын
The issue is its only her brain that's regenerative. You shoot her anywhere else and she's dead.
@KlynerKaiOffical4 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTaku That’s right, but it’s still regenerative abilities regardless be it weak ones in a specific but crucial part of her body. So she has enhanced intelligence and regenerative abilities
@ProjektTaku4 ай бұрын
@@KlynerKaiOffical again, you shoot her in the heart, neck, or anywhere aside from the brain, and she's dead. Its only useful if someone didn't know your brain could regenerate and decided to shoot it. Also the regen lowers her intelligence for a while, so its more like one or the other.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
When I said no other enhanced abilities I meant so far in that it pertains to combat. If anyone above tier E punched her in the head they’d probably cave her skull in not much to regenerate from there
@howdoichangemyusername98024 ай бұрын
Is it actually stated she NEEDS to do it? I thought she only lobotomized herself so she can enjoy being normal.
@rgmoses21894 ай бұрын
12:00 Marie can also manipulate the blood of others, she did it first episode to save the ladie the dead black magneto kid almost kid. May his actor rest in peace
@konstantinhorizon4 ай бұрын
And in the last episode by killing one of the supes from the Woods
@WowOafus4 ай бұрын
And here to say the same thing
@CaptainAnonymous4 ай бұрын
There's no inconsistency with the bullets in the show. Kimiko has never shown enhanced durability. Her body breaks the way a non-supe humans would, down to Frenchie being able to saw through her leg. She has super strength and regeneration, no super durability.
@LargeMale694 ай бұрын
dude i was gonna say the same thing! kimiko has always had her skin penetrated by bullets it just regenerates, she doesn’t have the skin like homelander or even translucent
@ofteu4 ай бұрын
Marie is also able to manipulate the blood of others’. This is shown in Gen v quite a bit where she can help them survive and use their blood as a weapon
@poobix13004 ай бұрын
I would put the deep lower than starlight considering he was terrified of fighting her throughout season one and only was able to beat her in the recent season due to her having lost her light-manipulation powers. He definitely has better durability and strength though considering he could beat the powerless starlight despite her undoubtedly having more skill and experience in hand-to-hand combat.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
I did discuss him after but I don’t necessarily think he would win a fight, which is why I put characters in tiers. I think for the most part, characters in the same tier could have a very intense, 50/50 brawl with one another, but I do think Starlight would probably beat the Deep overall
@uuuuuuuuuuuu5tiu2184 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction🤓he beats he in water
@IridescentIrene4 ай бұрын
Maeve also tanked soilder boy's strongest explosion, one that was considered powerful enough to even kill butcher and homelander. This explosion also completely inconpasitated soilder boy while maeve was still able to walk
@millasboo4 ай бұрын
@@IridescentIrene mostly true tho you can argue that he didn’t get up because he was drugged during the explosion and therefore might’ve been using a last resort nuke
@IsThatAThaiName4 ай бұрын
The explosion isn’t what knocked out soldier boy, it was using the explosion that knocked him out
@ashuprice97194 ай бұрын
@@IsThatAThaiNameI thought it was the gas
@IsThatAThaiName4 ай бұрын
@@ashuprice9719 could also have contributed
@nickisnotgnarly4 ай бұрын
@@IsThatAThaiNameit was the gas in his mind he thought he could probably pull off that blast take down everyone and wake up from it because if you see his face it looks like he’s about to be knocked out
@bijuutamer7294 ай бұрын
You got it backwards. Marie is more talented than Neuman. Neuman saw the potential in Marie and was considering her as her successor. Neuman was just more skilled than Marie outright stating the experience gap.
@philgriggs91734 ай бұрын
Firecracker in D seems generous. And I’d maybe argue that a train and noir are A. Soldier boy S. But great list
@DulledAxe4 ай бұрын
A-Train should be higher, he can basically teleport with how fast he can move. I think low A-tier would fit him better or maybe higher B
@venomshot28154 ай бұрын
i think a train should be higher, a tier. if he always utilized his superspeed practically no one could be able to land a hit on him except homelander if you consider his lazer vision lightspeed
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Everyone in A-Tier would likely eat his blows for breakfast and considering their scaling to Homelander wouldn’t be all to hard to hit him
@venomshot28154 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction with the show's consistency, I agree, but if his reaction time was the same throughout then no, but since he missed hitting the deep once he definitely gets hit by a tiers
@ImHerbert-moon4 ай бұрын
Bro can’t run for more than 2 seconds without his heart exploding, so no
@gustavosauro18824 ай бұрын
@@ImHerbert-moondid you not watch season 4?
@lonetomfoolery87624 ай бұрын
@@ImHerbert-moonbrother you've got some catching up to do
@Rdc_Dom4 ай бұрын
Wasn't Starlight mental nerfed against The Deep? I genuinely feel if in her proper condition she would blast the shit out of him quite easily.
@BTthekingnocap4 ай бұрын
Deep has like… better inverse over her
@millasboo4 ай бұрын
@@Rdc_Dom Yeah tho it’s implied that wasn’t even her right? Wasn’t that after the shapeshifter took her?
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@millasboono that was before did you not watch the episode
@orangejuice42664 ай бұрын
@@millasboono bruh
@AdaptedInfiltrator4 ай бұрын
Yep. Her light power wasn’t working, and Deep sucker punched her. Without those factors, it would have been closer and I dare say she would have won especially if she remembered to go for his gills which she conveniently forgot till after A-Train saved her. The earlier seasons definitely pointed to Starlight beating Deep if they fought, but this season nerfed her for a majority, and honestly buffed Deep
@goofy25x4 ай бұрын
The Golden boy statement is obv referring to popularity, not strength. I though that was obvious.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
That was an editing mistake. There’s a second statement down the line in reference to power
@scuti86434 ай бұрын
12:45 I am pretty sure the proffesor meant he could be bigger than homelander popularity wise, not strenght wise, he did say bigger not stronger after all
@onslaught66774 ай бұрын
0:18 internal body parts are more sensitive bro 😭
@johnysnoww38314 ай бұрын
5:35 Starlight was shot with your basic 50. BMG, And i dont hink it even knckoked the air out of Annie.
@Michael-wz2es4 ай бұрын
Some points: Love your breakdown of Maeve v Homelander, a lot of people try to undermine her performance in that fight with the holding back narrative even though this only accounted for 30 seconds of their 5+ minutes long fight (including in the background of Soldier Boy v everyone). Her performance here was the best we've seen so far against HL even tho Soldier Boy's hype and radiation blast places him slightly higher. I disagree with Starlight being below Kimiko and Deep. S4 gave her a lot of solid combat feats. Im primarily impressed by her performance against the Shifter, someone who is casually bulletproof and has immense strength and fighting ability. Her durability is top tier in the verse and her powers seem to be growing in potency and versatility. She belongs either at the top of C tier or bottom of B tier with A-Train. Marie is a bit too low considering her internal attacks, which can't really be blocked or countered. She's arguably the strongest of the Gen v lot. I think a few of the Gen V kids could stand to go lower, like Sam below Stormfront and jordan and golden boy lower in b tier. I'd place all of them except Marie below Black Noir, Starlight and A-Train. Otherwise, great ranking, very well researched.
@IsThatAThaiName4 ай бұрын
I think soldier boy would whoop maeve but that’s just me
@txpnr68664 ай бұрын
3:45 kimiko doesnt have enhanced durability, she just can regenerate any injuries
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
She didn't take any damage from A-Train repeatedly hitting her head on a concrete wall, she obviously isn't as durable as Starlight, but she's definitely more durable than the average person
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@_Yomboand bullets to the body she took no damage
@josuesoria42434 ай бұрын
@@Lumantrix Dude, the bullets literally can harm her and even get her out of combat if the shot is directly on the head.
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@josuesoria4243 I know that why I said if it hits her body
@josuesoria42434 ай бұрын
@@Lumantrix are you talking about Starlight?
@scaleboi60424 ай бұрын
you forgot to mention that in The Boys Diabolical when the people are blaming Homelander after the shotgun explodes(same chapter he and noir fight) he has a little flashback of him as a kid fighting grown men, so he was likely trained ever since he was able to talk until he was 18 non stop.
@ominous_light4 ай бұрын
Firecracker in class d...mind you she got knocked out by a crowbar and the kimiko she was fighting was a drunk kimiko. Simp
@5341Nation4 ай бұрын
In the comics, Tek Knight doesn't have Compound V, but he does wear an Iron-Man parody suit that enhances his strength, durability, intelligence, and speed. If the show had more budget, then Tek Knight's suit would rank well beyond A or S Tier (at least B Tier)
@Hydde874 ай бұрын
The fact that Soldier Boy can disable superpowers is a huge perk that the video doesn't adres and that should put him in the S-tier as well. Ryan is probably S-tier as well, or at least has the potential to become. From what we've seen in S2 and S4 he's already easily in the A tier at age 12.
@monke41634 ай бұрын
19:29 While i agree with homelander being stronger than soldier boy butcher was never portrayed to better in hand 2 hand that soldier boy in that fight. Hell, that clip you showed doesn't even agree with your statement.
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap4 ай бұрын
0:51 base mindstorm dogwalks everyone below butcher and maeve wtf are you smoking. HE MADE SOLDIER BOY BLEED. he also took a bloodlusted shield tackle and started getting up, so there's like 4 characters that can even damage him.
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
Finally someone who understands how powerful mindstorm was
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap4 ай бұрын
@@Lumantrix fr. and the insane durability is literally decades out of his prime. it seems like a lot of youtubers just yoink their scaling from vbw or some other forum without a second thought. they probably don't actually watch the show or only half payed attention to it. another one is the tnt twins. they blitzed soldier boy so bad they made him look like neferpitou, and left more damage than giga amp'd starlight. yet people think noir can beat them.
@Lumantrix4 ай бұрын
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap Exactly even Crimson countess projectile was able to knock SoldierBoy back and even her punch did some damage Payback definitely had some powerful members also them wiping out Mallory’s men was probably on purpose and not by bad planning because they didn’t want anyone to see SoldierBoy getting beaten
@Randomperson111214 ай бұрын
mindstorm didn’t make soldier boy bleed, watch the fight more carefully he punched soldier boy then black noir gave several more punches that made him bleed not mindstorm
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap4 ай бұрын
@@Randomperson11121 take your own advice. mindstorm drew blood first, then noir punched out his teeth. soldier boy's face is already bloody before noir punches him. noir just made it bloodier.
@Parmaitë4 ай бұрын
great content - love your ops scaling esp
@ethanmerle94254 ай бұрын
The way supes are portrayed is not inconsistent.The ones that get beat up by average people just don't have super strength.
@s.owl94 ай бұрын
The Deep couldn’t break through a wooden door, but later boxed with Starlight
@millasboo4 ай бұрын
Exactly 😂. Like even Billy vs noir was still enhanced on v and was literally almost ended entirely but the noir was narcoleptic
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
A member of the Seven, the most illustrious and powerful heroes, was knocked to the ground by a bullet. This was in a season spent majorly discussing the “Invincible and Indestructible Super Heroes” joining the army and how tanks, missiles and fighter jets wouldn’t even scratch them
@ethanmerle94254 ай бұрын
@@s.owl9 wasn't he drugged then? I'm pretty sure that could have interfered with his abilities.
@ethanmerle94254 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction And which member was was that again?
@Sithslayer-u8d4 ай бұрын
Really happy you assessed Starlight fairly while acknowledging her potential!!!
@yourhiqhnesss4 ай бұрын
finally someone that doesnt think soldier boy is the strongest. The show made it clear just like you said.
@wild_seabass3 ай бұрын
Great video! I really hope Maeve returns for Season 5 even if briefly. She'd probably use Temp V on herself if she felt her and Elena were in danger again.
@TKnightTea17 сағат бұрын
- The Deep wasn't fighting Starlight, it was the Shifter :/ - Starlight didn't really tag SB - only a bit of bright lighting that was unexpected for him (basically, imagine getting hit by a bright light in your eye before expecting it) - Hughie didn't knock up HM lol, he only slightly pushed him - SB is S Tier, his V-Fry explosion alone makes him worth it of that rank, and that not counting all of its raw strength, durability and combat skills. - Marie is way underrated - her Blood powers are super OP, she should be at least on B class.
@gandhar12774 ай бұрын
HL is superior vs Soldier Boy but mainly due to better mobility and heat vision. If things for whatever reason go bad (rarely since HL is a little stronger) he can blast SB from distance or if he can't harm him just grab him and fly/throw him into the ocean/low earh orbit before he activates his blast.
@Andre-l2z6g3 ай бұрын
soldier boy was locked up in a 1 foot room whit gas that weakend him for years and homlander was almost at his strongest while fighting soldier boy
@johnnydavis58963 ай бұрын
When Homelander said Soldier Boy was almost as strong as him - that was because enhancements. Soldier Boys' power of explosion probably gives him the edge in that he has a better ability to kill Homelander than Homelander has to kill him.
@Professor_Fiction3 ай бұрын
In the coming weeks there will be a video taking a closer look at who is really stronger/the better fighter between Homelander and Solder Boy
@nighfinite4 ай бұрын
That just means the person who stabbed him with the straw was stronger or faster than the machine gun also wasn’t it in Homelander’s ear like…
@PauloHenrique-ok3yb4 ай бұрын
great list, I agree with pretty much everything
@scientist3683 ай бұрын
Nah Soldier Boy would erase maeve He was out of commission with the strongest sedatives for years. Keep him awake and busy and he would rek Homelander as well.
@Reaper09034 ай бұрын
“Starlight was taken down by a gun” they literally specified that she was shot by a .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE, a gun known to be extremely powerful, and even then she wasn’t even injured and got up like it was nothing.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
The problem being that the heroes at this point are being compared to the highest level of military weapons(barring nukes) which any normal firearm really shouldn’t be able to do anything too
@songbird64144 ай бұрын
I just know Starlight will be S tier once she gets her shit together. The ability to control light implies extensive control over visibility as well as heat. Imagine the world’s strongest magnifying glass on you, but everywhere.
@sonofthechosenone43354 ай бұрын
Lol
@theshadowofmango92094 ай бұрын
The peak, lord of the seven seas, the superior being, the PEAK of human evolution should be at least S tier. Also ngl kessler butcher probably goes S as well seing as how he probably could've annihilated neuman, zoey, starlight, and kimiko with basically no difficulty. Starlight also was nerfed in her fight against the deep so I'd def put her a lil higher. Nice list tho.
@ANIME-goUoАй бұрын
10:23 background music name plzz plzz plzz 😅
@andy_wastaken2 ай бұрын
I believe soldier boy>Homelander, because you’re overestimating how much of a power gap was shown at herogasm, their fight lasted a good amount of time , and throughout it they were completely even, while not outright stated, its heavily implied and visible that soldier boy using his blast weakens him temporarily, he can comtrol how much energy he shoots out, and he went all out at herogasm, seconds after he had to fight homelander. And you’re forgetting that the person who is stating soldier boy to be “nearly as strong as homelander” is homelander himself, what was he gonna say, “youre the only one more powerful than me?” Ofc not. He was crapping his pants about fighting soldier boy, and for good reason. You can make a case for both parties, but i think soldier boy’s is the strongest.
@Free_Krazy3 ай бұрын
Regarding Frenchie saying "its nearly impossible to take out a supe" he means those who have the seemingly common damage resistance, like from Starlight to Translucent, just Translucent was perhaps slightly more resistant, but its been mentioned that even a nuke cant hurt Homelander, so it appears to be a spectrum. Mesmer was on the lower end, he was a supe, but he only had his unique trait, if he also had the common resistance trait he would have been an actual threat, but he just lived a normal life with normal problems. Those wernt the kinda supes Frenchie was talking about.
@Discarded_Uzi4 ай бұрын
Man am i so excited to see s5 and see butcher use his tentacles more. Soldier Boys returning too and things are getting serious now after the finale. I’m gonna go crazy having to wait 2 years lol
@AdaptedInfiltrator4 ай бұрын
I figured new Noir>old, since new only got pushed back but seemingly not pierced by a bunch of minigun bullets. Meanwhile old got pierced by a handgun bullet. Unless, the torso armor is tougher than the gloves?? I don’t think new Noir not neutralizing Butcher is enough reason to put him below new Noir. Old Noir hit Butcher into a wall. New Noir didn’t, and had to fight Butcher who had a shotgun. Meanwhile old Noir fought Butcher who had only a crowbar. Also, new Noir can fly.
@spiritpbr96594 ай бұрын
The Peak is S+++ and would solo an army of one million Homelanders, only stopping at a million because he would crave a blooming onion from Outback and abandon the conflict to go get it
@capybarafilmstudios16204 ай бұрын
I don't think this guy understands that the entire point of supes is they vary in strength. That's why Homelander is at the top. He is stronger. He is smarter. He is better. Some supes, like Kimiko, regenerate fast but can be injured by bullets. Others are more like Victoria Neuman: durable enough for bullets to bounce off of them. It's not an "inconsistency" for two different superhuman characters to have two different levels of durability and strength.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
What I meant is that the story one episode will tell us “all Supes are invincible” or “all Supes are bullet proof” or “the Supes can shake off military technology like missiles” then have Supes get hurt by rifles, hand guns, and punches
@capybarafilmstudios16204 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction It's Supe technology as a whole. Most supes have super strength. Most supes have super durability. Almost all supes have better hearing. But that trait varies between all supes, ranging from Mesmer to Soldier Boy, who is free to do whatever he wants because they could not kill him if they wanted to. In plural, yes. Supes could probably shake off most military technology because 1 Homelander beats an entire country's army, as nothing short of a nuclear warhead can harm him. Put Kimiko in the same situation and it's a different story.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Sort of. Butcher and Frenchie have both implied at various points of the series that killing a supe either is nearly impossible and takes months of preparation and planning, until it doesn’t. I don’t think it’s world breaking levels of inconsistency but they do have some very broadly speaking statements about supes in general
@capybarafilmstudios16204 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction The power dynamics vary between the seasons. In season 1, they had to rely on their brains and arduous planning, while in season 3 they had V24 and Soldier Boy to help them out, just to be back at square 1 for most of Season 4 save for Kimiko and Starlight. Their statements are true, though. Take the original Boys without Kimiko and they truly need several months of planning to take down a supe. I wasn't a big fan of the convenient existence of a virus that can just kill any supe like that, especially with how it got overshadowed by Butcher's new powers in the end, but overall, supes still have that same powerful aura of a ticking time bomb that can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Season 5 is the exception. The entire narrative of season 5 is probably gonna be a massacre of supes.
@coldassassin66154 ай бұрын
I would say new butchers powers scale much higher than previous butcher. I won't give details incase of possible spoilers for people but, I think it's quite obvious. There's also Ryan, I don't think he has many feats to place him, but upper A maybe S is probable from statements + the difference in damage to stormfront from lazer vision (accounting for Ryan going full force, and homelander probably pulling back, the scaling is a bit off).
@TonyTheFriendlyMovieFan4 ай бұрын
I personally would swap Marie and Neuman on this list, because I believe Marie clearly has a more versatile control over blood than Neuman since Neuman would need to see her targets with her eyes to begin with. Marie would probably go higher on this list in Gen V S2.
@caius60194 ай бұрын
Eh Marie doesn't have nearly.ad much durability or firepower. Maybe eventually but not yet
@dinotaco46514 ай бұрын
You made a false comment about Marie while you were discussing Neumann. Marie can also manipulate other people's blood, which is shown several times near the end of Gen V
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Thus far she hasn’t had a full grasp on using it at will, otherwise she could have done as much to the Supe threatening Ashley and the Vought execs but instead used blood blades. To me, her use of it seems to be in short bursts surrounding heightened emotions, like memories of her trauma or when Jordan was about to be controlled, not something she has full mastery of yet
@dinotaco46514 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction The important distinction is can't vs can but hasn't developed the skill for it
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Sure, she “can” but that doesn’t mean it’s sometbing she actually does. In a fight, Marie’s standard go to is always creating blood whips or weapons. I wouldn’t say Homelander “can” just fly above everyone else in the series and laser them from above because it’s not something he usually does
@dinotaco46514 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction I think we're losing sight of what I was originally trying to point out. All I'm getting at is that saying ". . far more advanced version of what Marie Moreau does, capable of manipulating the blood of others rather than her own" is false when on several occasions Marie has used her powers on other people's blood. To call them out specifically: blowing up Rufus' junk, detecting the tracking probes in the cast's necks, detecting the Compound V in Neuman's blood, conjuring a swarm of blood knives in the final fight, and blowing up Cate's hand. Now that I see the list, I'm inclined to say that the only thing holding her back from being on Neuman's level is a lack of practice
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
Considering I was discussing I think 20-30 characters I was generalizing points that I didn’t think were worth discussing. Yes, Marie can manipulate the blood of others, but it’s not something she’s prone to apply in combat effectively or at all. The way Neuman describes it is that external manipulating blood is exhausting while popping people is pretty efficient, which I tried to surmise
@alastairmctavish66554 ай бұрын
Shouldn't Ryan be S-tier as well? He seems to have equipotent skill and power potential as Homelander. He mutilated and disabled Stormfront without even trying.
@Chaosedits_CH024 ай бұрын
I just want to point it out that the show conveys the fact that not all supes are blessed with super human durability, strength or speed. So supes like mesmer or sister sage only possess a unique ability and no enhanced physical prowess while supes like homelander, starlight, deep, stormfront have enhanced physical prowess and various other unique abilities respectively to their own bodies. Anyways I mostly agree with this tier list for the most part.
@amogus14154 ай бұрын
While prime homelander is likely stronger,currently soldier boy is probably no 1,since he doesnt age,and homelander is aging and weakening,and will only grow weaker
@ProjektTaku4 ай бұрын
We don't know that he's weakening. He could just be aging while maintaining his strength levels.
@amogus14154 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTaku No,aging weakens you,by almost definition aging is just the breaking down of the body.The fact that his hair is graying is evidence that his dna and stuff isn't functioning as well.Remember,sister sage made these observations regarding his age due to his physical appearance,meaning the biology of his body is being affected It's also a parralel with how his mind is obviously degrading
@Rdc_Dom4 ай бұрын
He is aging, but he's still only middle aged so he's probably not any weaker just yet. Season 4 only takes place 6 months after season 3 and Homelander was already stronger than soldier Boy by a slight margin. Unless you think people get physically weaker after only 6 months Homelander should still be stronger. Plus the narrative hasn't suggested that Homelander is any weaker yet.
@amogus14154 ай бұрын
@@Rdc_Dom Yeah,that kinda makes sense,but Sage implies his fight with soldier boy fucked him up unnaturally somehow,I don't even know what she meant by that though tbf
@tysonpeterson95524 ай бұрын
@@amogus1415Fighting the father you dreamed to be family with.Thats what she meant.
@omegalongdong4 ай бұрын
The sheer number of homelander's abilities other than his strenght also clealy makes him the strongest supe. He spotted hughie from a drop of sweat, and he also heard a-train quietly cussing and don't forget how the boys had to make a room out of metal foil just so homelander doesn't fly by and sees them through walls. And people like to downplay his intelligence and skills just because they dislike him. He's infact very smart and skilled, he's just acts the way he does because he was manipulated as a child.
@umahnator861317 күн бұрын
He really isnt that smart. He did one thing was get neuman to vetray edgar bybusing her child againt her thats it
@generallegath9744 ай бұрын
I always found the SB v Homelander debate really weird; how many times does it need to be shown or outright stated that Homelander is the strongest Supe? I think his fight against Maeve is also talked about as though it was more even than it actually was. Maeve was nearly downed several times in the fight without too much of a struggle, and suffered the loss of an eye. Homelander had a nose bleed and a straw jammed in his ear, which didn't seem to cause much permanent damage.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
She’s definitely far far inferior to Homelander. The debate mainly comes down to Maeve vs Butcher realistically in my opinion
@cengix88504 ай бұрын
he was getting his ass whooped but he needed to use cheap shots like an eye gouge on a girl lol does that not say anything to you
@generallegath9744 ай бұрын
@@cengix8850 What in the world are you talking about? First of all, going off about "cheap shots" in this universe is crazy, especially when you consider that Maeve went for him while his back was turned, punched him in the groin and jammed a straw into a sensitive part of the body (like the eye, ears are also sensitive, especially the inner area). Gouging someone's eye out is a valid move in a fight to the death, I don't know what else to say. Even without that, if you look at the shots that landed he was clearly winning the fight despite Maeve catching him off guard and him clearly holding back for at least a portion of the fight. This should not be surprising; he is the strongest Supe, he's built to be physically more powerful than the rest of them.
@Ronythereditor4 ай бұрын
I got your next video right here "which heroes from the boys can join the S-class?"
@smthsmthsmthsmth4 ай бұрын
That one’s pretty obvious. None of them can. Homelander is at best around A class.
@PYRO-TF2-REAL4 ай бұрын
Nah, it should be: which the boys hero can beat mumen rider
@memelordkai68294 ай бұрын
Even the top tiers of the verse are A-Class level at best. Puri Puri Prisoner solos The Boys.
@Ronythereditor4 ай бұрын
@@PYRO-TF2-REAL holy shit bro you're so fucking hilarious have you done stand up yet? Holy fuck you should be on Joe Rogan podcast my god your so fucking funny
@PYRO-TF2-REAL4 ай бұрын
@@Ronythereditor thank you mate
@therealmr.incredible31794 ай бұрын
Ryan’s blast toward Soldier Boy was suppressed compared to the one in S2
@ventroxii5614 ай бұрын
Ryan belongs in S tier with Homelander
@X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X4 ай бұрын
I think where this list screwed the pooch is mixing Feats with the actual Powers/Capabilities. If you stuck with Powers and their potential this list would've been significantly more consistent. Examples: -The Deep is getting folded by Powered Up Starlight. -Kimiko's Brother doesn't have crazy Durability, but that's not where he shines anyways, ripping a Helicopter out of the sky isn't something even some of the B Tiers can do. Yet he's still on the same level as his Sister that he easily flung out of existence. -Kate folded the entire Gen V cast, and was literally only stopped by Marie at the end, Kate's power is OP, she may not be bullet proof or super durable but influencing Supes even as strong as Sam and Goldenboy is NOT something we should overlook. -Hughie got a surprise punch off of Homelander, Teleporting isn't that crazy in dealing damage compared to something consistent like A-Train's speed or his Dad's Phasing Through ability.
@AdaptedInfiltrator4 ай бұрын
For Butcher having a cut on his face 1v1 when fighting Homelander remember that Butcher did get hit by the shockwave of the blast which was strong enough to KO him. Homelander’s lasers KOd him again. As for Soldier Boy/Black Noir, I think Noir could have stabbed him elsewhere besides the skin. Other supes have been bled via getting stabbed in the eyes, ears, etc
@Xym0k4 ай бұрын
Super Sonic can break glass by only clapping - so he can make a sonic clap like Hulk.
@Welshman3364 ай бұрын
Can't believe the actor who plays Andre died. Loved him in Sabrina
@kibbit13734 ай бұрын
You not even mentioning soldiers boys blast ability makes for an underestimation of his power.
@Professor_Fiction4 ай бұрын
It was originally included but seemed unnecessary since the video was already so long. There will be an in-depth video about Soldier Boy soon
@shadoka94094 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy can apparently take away your powers so hes gotta be S tier
@ma-tanica4 ай бұрын
It's just funny to think that Homelander would allow Golden boy to join the Seven. The latter would've gone too jealous and ended up killing him.
@kaleyerxa39144 ай бұрын
Soldier boy just woke up from his imprisonment days before fighting homelander so I imagine prime soldier boy would put up a good fight and earn a spot at least top of A tier
@linusenglishtips752313 күн бұрын
Respectfully, Deep gets his skull caved in by Supersonic. Popclaw is an average supe, and he is significantly stronger than her when high. Let that sink in.
@liohheditz_4 ай бұрын
soldier boy just losing energy when he blowing up and when he fought homelander at first he was already weak because of blowing, thats why homelander took him, homelander doesn't stand a chance in hand to hand combat, if he uses the laser, soldier boy easily can use the shield until homelander stops, there is nothing else to do for fight so soldier boy could've take him. just we didn't saw soldier boy in a fight without losing energy against homelander. soldier boy is a soldier he saw a lot of wars he knows how to fight he got a lot of fighting skills.
@huhbooh4 ай бұрын
you havent watched the show have you?
@liohheditz_4 ай бұрын
@@huhbooh i did brotha
@huhbooh4 ай бұрын
@@liohheditz_ then you werent paying attention cause everything you said was complete bs
@liohheditz_4 ай бұрын
@@huhbooh no bro its true
@huhbooh4 ай бұрын
@@liohheditz_ then 1. Prove soldier boy was weakened after using his blast 2. Soldier boy has 0 fighting skills he has only ever fought normal humans or supes significantly weaker than him 3. It is literally stated by everyone soldier boy is weaker than homelander
@frostflame454 ай бұрын
i feel like tek knight is stronger than people think, he was very confident that he could simply rip kate’s hand off
@tysonpeterson95524 ай бұрын
Well cate isnt exactly a physically strong supe
@frostflame453 ай бұрын
@@tysonpeterson9552 people act like he doesn’t have super strength
@tysonpeterson95523 ай бұрын
@@frostflame45 I think that's just with the suit.
@kalb3903 ай бұрын
Ah, yes! The legendary Kate who's able to go 1v1 with Goku himself, as seen in episode 24 of gen Z
@lukelapinski70054 ай бұрын
Supersonic in E is an absolute robbery
@BigBossCQCLegend4 ай бұрын
Solider Boy is S Tier with HomeLander
@whitefatalis2743Күн бұрын
the biggest complaint i have with the show is inconsistency - like, homelander can survive a nuclear bomb but his ear bleeds from pencil and a bunch of rubble thrown by Kimiko brother incapacitates him? come on guys, you can do better
@Chupasaci12344 ай бұрын
Shouldn't like marie be with victoria neuman? Like, she's a bit more powerful tho, she just lacks experience, also, it's sad that new butcher powers aren't there, but i understand because butcher's powers aren't at his full potencial, but could be in honorable mentions. Overall, great job matey:)
@nk300203 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy has the broken ability to disable compound v if he gets off the blast on homelander & he doesn't age like homelander, while homelander is physically stronger, faster, more durable, can fly & shoot lasers.
@tamim92664 ай бұрын
I don't think the argument for Soldier Boy being stronger comes from pure strength or skill. It's mostly the radiation blast that disables powers like it did with Kimiko and Maive. If he manages to use that on Homelander by pining him, knocking him down, etc., and it works on Homelander as well (he was born with V so maybe it won't affect him) then you could see why Soldier Boy could be the strongest. It's based on Hax, not skill or strength only.
@Pandemonk2 ай бұрын
There is ONE that is stronger than Homelander and this is Ryan, everything points out to the fact that he is the strongest when motivated
@Seasonal-Shadow_46744 ай бұрын
2:10 when was it specifically mentioned again Tek Knight was one of the top heroes
@WhiteNoBeard4714 ай бұрын
He says that Homelander and himself are "the top 2", also since he was the one presenting that one panel in season 4, he's likely to be pretty successful
@ProjektTaku4 ай бұрын
@@WhiteNoBeard471 Homelander literally says he's nothing, although I do believe he's probably one of the more popular Supes, he's apparently not popular enough to join the Seven.
@WhiteNoBeard4714 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTaku Squirt says that in reference to power, not popularity
@russellclarke19974 ай бұрын
Nice thumbnail. You put deep at #3 and Soldier Boy at #9 to get people to click and cuss in the comments 😂 touché😂😂
@michaeljones3161Ай бұрын
Starlight should definitely be higher. We’ve seen her powers grow non stop.
@wenbinx4 ай бұрын
8:07 was that a smoke alarm
@marlowemichaelson13664 ай бұрын
I’m sorry for asking this question because I don’t want to sound stupid but here goes: If Stormfront shoots lightning/electricity, and Starlight can power up with electricity…why couldn’t she absorb or redirect Stormfront’s lightning?
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
Because it's tesla and not lighting or electricity
@Andre-l2z6g3 ай бұрын
and i agree that butcher is A class whit temp v but in season 5 he wil become S tier for sure
@LotusReal4 ай бұрын
Soldier boy is literally indestructible, and can remove people’s powers, how does a maxed out home lander even deal with that? The only thing stopping him from killing everyone at the finale was lesbian plot armor.
@vovale12624 ай бұрын
since homelander can fly at incredible speed he will never hit him, homelander is also stronger so he wins
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
By choking him out? He still needs to breathe
@LotusReal4 ай бұрын
@@vovale1262 if this is true, why did he not do this in the show in either of their fight scenes?
@LotusReal4 ай бұрын
@@_Yombo do you not think the Russians would have tried that? It’s set up he’s invincible, that would be a bit pointless if all that was needed is to be choked.
@KanderUdon4 ай бұрын
Not everything is woke bro
@ryanstrilogy4 ай бұрын
heres some leaks about starlight in season 5 (1 is confirmed) 1. light speed flight. this will make her about 100 times faster then homelander and about 250 times faster than atrain (confirmed) 2. she will be able to absorb electromagnetic radiation (UV light, infrared light, gamma rays, etc) 3. she will be able to use her energy blasts as a beam, not just a big blast if all these are true she will compete with homelander, especially since she could abosrb the infra red light from his beam (thats heat)
@umahnator861317 күн бұрын
Atrains fatser than homelander. And none of its confirmed
@justarandompogger4 ай бұрын
10:25 Homelander takes travel But Atrain takes combat speed and reaction speed
@koleszgdanska71494 ай бұрын
Soldierboy with his nuclear blast is easily the most dangerous one
@skadi29114 ай бұрын
I think season 5 will probably move Kessler Butcher and Starlight all the way up to class A. Kessler Butcher being able to rip in half another supe so easily means he's in a league of his own. To me, only class A heroes or above would be able to wistand its tentacles power (maybe a few ones from class B). The end of S4 also hints at Starlight being able to fuel herself using light from the Sun, since she was able to not only fly, but do it very fast and precisely at that, with only two car batteries available. Since the show clearly showed her needing to use a whole building electricity to just float a bit at the beginning of S4, I'd argue that this theory is very believable. If it's true, that means she'd have almost infinite fuel during daytime for her flight and blasts of energy. Heck, maybe it could help her heal faster too, who knows.
@Prfinity4 ай бұрын
The deep can't even break a locked door when freaking out and gets KO by the earths gravity The Peak
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
Yet punches through a stone pillar
@gavenrios85454 ай бұрын
No mention of emma? Little cricket was awesome. She didnt that much but her powers proved useful. She was able to infiltrate antop security lab, kill a guard, and she grew in size and was the only one able to stop sam she is powerful if underutilized so far. At least c tier
@BigBossCQCLegend4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that Solider Boy Will Kill Homelander in Season 5
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
The director of the show confirmed Homelander and Soldier Boy are teaming up against Butcher
@Muckelienchen3 ай бұрын
The scaling of the placements of God U is a bit iffy as the ranking isnt so much based on strength, but rather popularity, strength, social media mentions and more combined
@Mr_cosmic4044 ай бұрын
I’m not sure golden boy could beat noir and a train personally
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
Noir got burned by a hot car, Golden Boy melts him
@Mr_cosmic4044 ай бұрын
@@_Yombo he survived the explosion from naqib and healed.
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
@@Mr_cosmic404 An explosion isn't the same as constant fire on him, plus he didn't heal instantly
@Mr_cosmic4044 ай бұрын
@@_Yombo when did I ever say instantly.
@_Yombo4 ай бұрын
@@Mr_cosmic404 You didn't so I don't see the point in saying that since he won't be able to outheal Golden Boy's flames