Which Impact Driver Bit is Best? Let's find out! Phillips #2 Showdown

Phillips #2 impact driver bits tested: Milwaukee Shockwave, DeWalt, Makita, Bauer, Bosch, Hercules, Harbor Freight Warrior, Bosch, Wiha, and Irwin. Driver bit "grip" or twisting force required to cause cam out compared to driver bit wear after driving 100 drywall screws into a pressure treated 4x4s. Driver bits tested for metal hardness, twisting force required for cam out after use, and twisting force required to break the driver bit.
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Need to test out the new rigid tools, do a drill test on some. I know the impacts and drivers are expensive though. But my top 3 impacts are rigid, milwaukee and makita and that goes for any tools in general. Unless it's hand tools I'll get se cheap craftsman stuff or kobalt just for the lifetime warranty. Enjoy the videos I've watched every single one, life long subscriber 🤙🤙

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@@caseytbss BUT WHAT IS AN IMPACT DRIVER? AND WHYS IT CALLED IMPACCT?

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Steve Thea An impact driver is a tool that uses a rotational hammering action to greatly increase torque. This action produces torque in very strong, short bursts, as opposed to a drill driver which produces continuous torque.

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Soooooo, what do you think is best phillips bit!!!?

[@uswee]

@@phoenixfireclusterbomb The one that fits best. I have had good luck with Milwaukee and Dewalt.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

The logical next step, Torx (star) bits! I'd love to see a test on those since I steer clear of Phillips heads generally, if it's practical to use Torx I always will!

[@brodriguez11000]

For consistency in driving. Only thing for really tough wood is hex head.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

@@brodriguez11000 For my trade (weatherization) I find that I am always upsidedown twisted around reaching over one thing and under something else trying to get a screw into something in an attic or a crawl space stretching as far as I can, so nice even pressure isn't really possible in most real-world situations, so I always go Torx because if you can get the bit on the head, it'll drive that baby in. Why is rarely the case with a Phillips head, often it'll round out the head of the screw and damage the crap out of your bit, making the next screws even harder to drive in.

[@TheSzalkowski]

I agree, would be interested to see if the brand results are comparable. Add in Norske bits, I have heard good things about them

[@kameljoe21]

Torx, hex, square and the 3 sided square are far better than Phillips. Though I steer clear of most torx screws and bits as I tend to snap them more often than not.

[@Xanthopteryx]

Yes, WHO in their right mind uses Phillips?! At least Pozidriv is a minimum nowadays.

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Or AvE

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Thank you for testing multiple Harbor Freight brands! Many of us are just humble DIY/enthusiasts and don't need the absolute best, so budget focus is key. Knowing how the various HF brands compare is super important.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@dmac1259]

If you dont want to pay for big name brands then definitely stick with harbor freight and stay away from heart. I used to buy heart bits because I live really close to a Walmart but I didn't live close to a hardware store and I broke so many of those impact rated heart bits it's not even funny. I will tell you though Milwaukee bits are worth it they will last far longer than any budget bit in my experiance.

[@nicwelch]

@@dmac1259I bought a four pack of Hart bits to match my impact and I have to say they were great for me. Though I do have to say that for a little more money the Milwaukee bits really cannot be beat!

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"I never dreamed the channel would grow to 1 million subscribers." You got there by delivering high quality content with an understandable, no-nonsense/no-fluff delivery. Much of it is applicable to me - a fairly handy guy that likes to do a lot myself - and I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for helping us get thorough the coronavirus lockdown. I strongly prefer Torx and square drives. If you haven't already, I'd love to see a comparison of the performance of the common drive profiles.

[@deadchannel991]

Oh same here. More surface area=substantial difference in grip.

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Yes please do a Robertson comparison.

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@@deadchannel991 friction does not depend on surface area, only on support reaction (ie how much you press on the thing) and on coefficient of friction between the two materials

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I'd like to see a comparison of the different types of screw types. I think the Robertson screw is the best as I've never stripped one.

[@ProjectFarm]

I'll check back to see how many likes this suggestion receives and hoping viewers will suggest brands they want tested. 100% of the ideas and brands tested are from viewer's recommendations. Thank you!

[@user-zz8ln3uh5x]

I'd also like to see that. I think it'd be informative to include varieties like GRK's star-drive and Spax's T-Star Plus.

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Yep I'd be very curious of Robertson vs Torx along with any cost differences between screws of those bit type.

[@boots7859]

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[@diarmuid858]

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[@Anagonwolf]

Gotta say, after years of real life experience, I've always gone with Milwaukee bits for Phillips and Torx bits, along with the socket adapters. I was afraid it might have just been brand loyalty at first, but the performance was there. Your lab testing conditions coincide with my experience. Thanks for the effort you put into this video!

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[@Mkruzer]

Had a pack of Bosch they would consistently break at 1 per every 4 concrete screws. Changed over to Milwaukee and drove 8 more screws without one bit breaking. Sticking with Milwaukee.

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I have worse. I gotta work with old black and Decker bits

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Thanks and you are welcome!

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I see you watch AVE.

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Scientist? LOL

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He is very much a Michael Farady style of scientist.

[@jethrowomber]

The best bit, is the one I can find when I need it.

[@craiggiese5037]

Yes it is Haha

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*THIS*

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I can have a 100 of the Damn things and never can find one when I need it. 😆

[@ArtzierzDJ]

So true

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For me that’s none ever.

[@greer776611]

I always buy the cheapest impact bits- but I brake them too often! I'm very thankful you have these tests- helps provide the info we all need to find the quality products we can afford.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@trig]

I have found that grinding the first 1mm of the tip of my driver bits has reduced cam out considerably. I use mostly stainless steel screws, in oak, and the screw heads are not always as well formed as they should be. Removing that first mm ensures the lands of the driver bit seat properly. It works so well that I now do this with all my driver bits as soon as I buy a new box whether they are for driving stainless or standard steel screws.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great tip! Thank you

[@1pcfred]

Heh I thought I was the only one that ground Phillips bits. But yeah when they get worn out I'll regrind them and they do seem to work better than new then.

[@mediocrates1937]

This is a good tip, I do it as well. It makes the bits more like JIS bits (Japanese Imperial Standard) which are standard in Japan, and though they look nearly identical to Phillips #2 bits/screws, Japanese bits/screws are not designed to cam out. Their engineering philosophy insists that an engineer design a torque rating for every single fastener used on an item, whether it be an automobile or a kids toy. It's neither better nor worse, just a different philosophy than the U.S./the West...

[@cadelfistro1824]

you can buy grund down phillips bits, its called PH2G or PH2R. they are made for self tappers like you used!

[@1pcfred]

@@mediocrates1937 sure the "I" doesn't stand for Industrial? And yeah JIS does make a mess of things. I just love standards. There's so many to choose from!

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Imagine explaining to the significant other why you have drilled ~1k screws into wood for 'no reason'. You, sir, are a legend

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

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@@ProjectFarm It's modern art!

[@dougjb7848]

@Jam'N'Chips Either that or bat-crap crazy.

[@HappyMemoryy]

There was a reason though. Testing :)

[@GAZMANFOREVER]

So the bits scratch at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a 7? *JerryRig has entered the chat*

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lol. Nice! He's got a great channel

[@thatdude5104]

@@ProjectFarm No, you have a great channel ;)

[@mathewmantas]

@@thatdude5104 No, They both have great channels! :D

[@luukieboy886]

Haha

[@bignoseharry6561]

Jerry Rigged ? Hmmn, is that sorta like "Jew'd Down" ? I bet there's not a site with that name on KZbin.

[@paulkoby2241]

I agree with the other commenters that your test seem to be honest and straight forward. The test also supply relevant information. Thank you for your efforts.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

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You are very dedicated on what you do, I think that you are the best testing channel there is on KZbin! Thanks for the content you bring us.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much! The positive feedback means a lot!!

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I’ve said it, but it bears repeating 👍

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DAMN RIGHT HE IS, TAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF TIME & THE STUFF HE COMES UP WITH TO DO TESTS ARE UNMATCHED. LOVE P. F.

[@dylanwilliams8182]

I can’t imagine setting 1000 screws! Real commitment, great video!!

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Yes, it took a while. Thank you

[@kenhurley4441]

@@ProjectFarm Did you hum the Beach Boys,,,,, Get a round Get a round I get a round while putting the screws in?

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You've made it to 1 million subscribers because you do a great job! Keep up the great work and content!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Will do!

[@jahughchaffin6616]

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[@jimjacobs5825]

I love Wiha bits. They’ve been the best for long jobs by far and as far as I’m concerned, the extra work they do is worth the price difference.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@i_know_youre_right_but]

Just wish they did larger sets like every other brand.

[@JoshTolbertUrbana]

The Bauers seem like a surprisingly good bit for the money. Here's a suggestion: try different drive types. I'd love to see a similar comparison for square-drive/Robertson, Philips, JIS, Pozidriv, Torx, and hex/Allen. When building stuff I tend to gravitate towards square-drive, Torx, and hex, but I've been really impressed with JIS when I've encountered it on Japanese motorcycles. Thanks again for all of the work you do for these videos.

[@SusWorkYT]

I agree with you Josh

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@bertgrau9246]

@FoxRcng708 I like the torx bits best, less likely to jump out of the screw . I go out of my way when I need screws to get the torx and stay away from the Philips

[@MrWalleye]

We mostly use Robertson's up here north of the border. Would really like to see how they stand up.

[@niels-173]

Since i started using torx I never bought philips heads anymore, torx almost never slip out even using minor pressure

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

I've used about every bit in existence. All I've used the past two years are the Milwaukee 3 and 6 inch shockwave bits. They have the best fit/longevity in my experience.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great feedback! Thank you

[@BrianSu]

exactly!! The moment I saw a Milwaukee amongst the lot that he tested, I wondered what’s the point of the video then 😂😂

[@trentonreese2713]

as an electrician i use the milwaukee 6 inch bits almost exclusively in my bosch 12v impact. they last about 3 months with daily constant use and i usually only have to replace them because i lost it not because it stopped working good

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@trentonreese2713 That's half the problem - loosing them or someone borrowing it "for a second" and keeping it lol.

[@bocrocks]

I use those Milwaukee bits every day at work, but i would love to see a comparison like this of the longer bits, like 3 and 6 inch

[@satibel]

Second that, seeing how the longest bits compare would be interesting, my guess is that they might actually last longer because the shaft flexes more.

[@andrewcrossman2165]

Im an electrician, ive been using the same Milwaukee impact bit for five months, used every day all day, still going.

[@ProjectFarm]

Nice!

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I appreciate that!

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When I'm ready to find a wife I will employ this guy.

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LOL! Dang, too late for me!

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He’ll find ya the best one

[@swampratt36]

Dammit man , y'all fellas just ain't right 🤣 but on that note , wish I had a set of mud grips made of it .😳👍😬

[@pebblez_]

God damn

[@megatrolltrollington]

@You Wish I'm interested to see the results of this test.

[@TheHolyFlapjack]

I would just like to give a tip, when you’re using the impact gun as much as you are in this video, as a dewalt owner myself, I have had a few drills burn out and I could never figure out why. The problem was that when under heavy load (like this video) I was covering the air ports to cool the motor as it is spinning in order to apply downward force like anyone trying to make sure the but doesn’t slip off, and it caused the motor windings to heat up and short out. My tip to you would be to rest you’re hand on the very back of the drill and not block the air ports to allow your impact gun to cool and live a much longer life.

[@bdragonseven]

At work, my little Milwaukee impact heats up pretty badly when I'm holding it down. The air coming out of it can and has gotten so hot, it burns the hand that's being used to hold the bit in place. Imagine the grease Carnage going on inside the thing!

[@dozer8065]

Not really a tip more of common sense, but thanks for pointing that out, ive seen lots of people do this, i found out just by the heat my handfelt and put 2in2 together

[@jesseserfling6807]

I have a friend who is an old sheet rocker he has his corded drill that he uses always on to keep the fan moving air over the motor. He swears by it

[@MrCellardoor7]

jesse serfling Absolutely correct, keep the circular saw running a little longer before and after the cut too.

[@bblwarrantydepartment981]

The Holy Flapjack that’s why I love my makita vent on the side

[@user-22-]

Not many ladies here but despite doing mostly household repairs/projects, I don’t want to waste money on inferior products. Thanks for your work & here’s another sub! 👍🏼

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@finnblackburn9583]

Thanks for making these comparisons! I work as a mechanic and it always seems to throw the supply shops for a loop when I call them up and insist on specific brands for everything. Your reciprocating saw blade comparison introduced me to the Diablo brand and that really helped me out when I was working on equipment that I couldn't use torches around.

[@ProjectFarm]

I love it when the videos help viewers! It's a huge source of satisfaction and keeps me testing products!

[@sasquatch5680]

im always impressed of the skill and time you put in on these tests..WELL DONE

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@BlackfingerGarage]

Agreed!

[@ethanstout8226]

Bauer is next level. HF’s best kept secret. Cheapest and best of their “premium” brands.

[@OneMouseGaming]

I love my bauer drill/driver set , add in the LED light or two as they are a must. I really wish they sold a battery contact cover. I don't like having lipos sitting around with exposed contacts. I also got my compound sliding miter saw but i had to do a LOT of hand work and sanding to get the turntable and outfeed ledges to be level and true. That saw with my own zero clearance throat piece and my own DIY zero clearance fence. I had to put work into making the tool do what i wanted, + build a 3 foot infeed/outfeed table and tie it into the fence, but all the tools from HF that i have gotten have been champions. Even the belt/circle sander combo. I had to tweak the motors position to tension the belt, but adjustment is to be expected in any direct belt driven tool.

[@johnboykin3128]

I bought 2 for my last remodel, and owned a hammer drill for 3 years. Super tools

[@delta34golf]

So much awesomeness coming out of the Bauer line lately. Soon 5AH batteries.... maybe even 8AH batteries.. :D

[@Industry-insider]

I’ve tried most of them and makita gold are really the best all around, they don’t strip out too bad and they also don’t snap

[@Anomaly188]

It's not even their 'premium' brand. That's supposed to be Hercules. Bauer is their enthusiast semi-pro line.

[@Winters506]

The thoroughness of this man’s channel and effort he puts into bringing the most non biased product performance and information is unprecedented. Such an exceptional channel to watch. I will not buy a tool without checking to see what his findings were first.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@mikesummers2525]

Can I send you a Father’s Day card because you’ve taught me more than mine.

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad the videos are helpful

[@noahkladivo3752]

I think thats a no...

[@louis84100]

@@noahkladivo3752 treated like a stepchild haha

[@mharrison1325]

Aww shut down. I'll be your dad if you need. My kids keep licking things when we're out places, I need at least one kid who's lower maintenance.

[@jaywagner13]

Lol

[@Fede_uyz]

No nonsense, no fluff, no rambling. Straight info. I dont own any tools, i live in an apartment in a big city (being country that makes me feel gross) and dont own any tools other than the standard stuff to fix stuff around the house (screwdrivers, nails, hammer, etc) but i love your videos!

[@knartfocker00]

Dude, I love how succinct, scientific, relevant and usable every one of your videos is. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@ProjectFarm]

I appreciate that!

[@UnlimitedPossibilities345]

My personal observation has been that the Milwaukee brand tips last the longest. Great to see some actual side by side scientific comparisons to back it up. Thanks for all your efforts! Great video!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@stephenparchewski1998]

I do agree…not just because I’m a Milwaukee fan, but they are good bits. The only exception are Robertson (SQ2) impact driver bits. Don’t ask me why, but the best ones I have ever used have been Dewalt ones. When they grip the bit, it actually takes some effort to get the bit out of the screw.

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

​@@stephenparchewski1998trade internet not allowed

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

​@@ProjectFarmsuicide not allowed

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

Dog not allowed ect

[@cajunice3588]

Dewalt would last us about 1 box of 3 1/2 screws since switching to milwaukee we are at 10 boxes and counting so for us it's a clear choice

[@ttvalhercc2592]

The amount of detail that goes into these quality vidoes is insane. Hats down man 🤣 precision experimenting 🔥🔥

[@ProjectFarm]

Appreciate it!

[@casualriley]

Watching the bits snap and hearing the "crack" was incredibly satisfying for some reason, like shop monkey ASMR

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@5714sqd]

I worked in the aviation industry for almost fifty years and screwdriver bits are important. There are two brands that are used frequently, Apex and Airtek. Both are very well made and last a long time. Both resist tip wear and stand up well to impact drivers. Aircraft use machine screws made to a high standard and demand a decent driver tip that resists cam out. I have been retired for many years but still use bits from my working days, a testament to their longevity.

[@nathanclark2424]

Out of curiosity, are Philips the most common screw where you worked, or is it a different type? And so cam out is no longer useful to avoid over torquing?

[@armyofshea7941]

“On the next Project Farm we test who makes the strongest Whiskey”...... then we see the M.E with a close up of his liver, “now that’s a lot of damage.”

[@spicyF1]

I would love for him to document his methodology for that test.lol

[@e1woqf]

🤣

[@algalkin]

Which whiskey can make you drunk faster? Which one's effect lasts longer?

[@dadawesome784]

@Project Farm- I’d offer my services to collaborate on this study.

[@stanwooddave9758]

I was taught it's Whiskey & Wild Women. So, if he needs a hand with some Wild Women, as a widower, I'd offer my service's. So he's not putting his life at risk from his wife. LOL

[@carbineZDH1]

It would be cool to see a video comparing the different types of bits like Philips, torx, square drive, etc.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@mikeries8549]

Already done it. Square is bad. They snap off. Torx are the ones you use when your labor force are wussies which is what you get for 15 buck an hour.

[@BennyFlyby]

I'd like to see other type heads as well. Phillips are terrible because they cam out and strip easily, Robersons are good until they wear and start rounding out as well. Torx are great but lately I've had torx bit heads breaking in the screw heads. But it would be interesting to see the strength difference between them all.

[@saamilarson]

Dan Smulders there’s a difference between Robertson and square drive. Robertson’s are not generally used in the US, and have a slight taper compared to square drive which have no taper.

[@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298]

@@mikeries8549 $15/hr for manual labor?! Where the hell do you work? Around here you're lucky to start off making 8! You wanna talk about a high turnover rate...

[@dough9950]

I would love to see a comparison of different screw bit geometry, philips vs Robertson, torx , etc

[@mattrinne]

I second that emotion!

[@ejwall]

Yes!

[@trendkilla254]

I feel like torx is the best personally. Just a guess though.

[@ianvaldivia1993]

I will love to see that also

[@OrlandoORC]

Torx all the way.

[@wldtrak]

This man needs his own TV series.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@ddtddt8493]

Your dedication to scientific results is remarkable. Thank you for all the effort put into doing what we don’t want to do - have no time to do - don’t know how to do - and so on, on our behalf. My hat off to you sir

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you so much!

[@16klu]

I live in Poland and probably will never use any of those, but your tests are just awesome, detailed and accurate. Pleasure to watch. Thanks!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@tomdrap7977]

Milwaukee Shockwave, DeWalt, Bosch ,Makita gold (sam ich używam bo miałem dość końcówek które po paru wkrętach były do wyrzucenia )... wszystko do kupienia na allegro

[@ACoTam2]

używam Milwaukee Torx T25 i jestem zaskoczony. całą drewnianą altanę (domek) 15m2 na 3 bitach. problem jest taki, że kupiłem paczkę z 25 bitami...

[@davidreynolds9649]

I have seen Milwaukee becoming more popular and more available in the UK

[@simeonbonev4111]

What tools brands are considered best in Poland ?

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

I havent seen all his uploads, but this one so far vividly demonstrates how thorough this guy performs a review. A god sent to us consumers.

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad I can help! Thanks for watching.

[@truthserum9157]

Videos like this is why I keep watching your channel, in just over 12 minutes you can find out what’s taking me years to find out, that’s why I almost always use first Milwaukee, second Makita, third DeWalt.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Glad to hear!

[@CDeanhartman]

For 3” screws, I gave up on Philips heads screws a couple years ago. T25 torx is all I use. So much better than Philips but very good for testing!

[@phbrinsden]

Absolutely agree.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

@@phbrinsden Totally! 👍

[@chrisv3863]

Yes. Torx is the way to go. Especially with 4 in. Good luck not stripping a 4 in screws with a Phillip's head..

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@realkilju]

Cant imagine how much work goes into making these videos! All i can do is say THANK YOU!!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@lazzynomad]

Very good point!

[@cholesterol6703]

Based on the Makita "twisting force to break" test, it evidences the qualities of the predominant Japanese heat treatment philosophy: stale gummy bear. A hard outer shell and a relatively rubbery center. The material twists and deforms, trying to prevent overall catastrophic failure by allowing localized plastic failures. It is achieved normally with a controlled annealing and cooling ramp followed by an induction hardening stinger for the shell stiffness.

[@-QuickNick-]

Worked with Milwaukee tools a few years ago in my last job, was impressed by how good the drillbit was, so I got myself an angle grinder, shock drillbit and shockwave bits. Just watched this to know if there's a brand even better than them, but as it seems I did nothing wrong and already went with the best. Good video, well done.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@kevinlangley9644]

For my personal use I've went with Makita but for my job ( maintenance director at a nursing home. You'd be surprised at the work we have to do. And believe it or not although the elderly can be very destructive its the employees that cause the most damage lol) I went with Milwaukee and i am very impressed with their products. I told my wife that when my Makitas finally die I'm going Milwaukee all the way. I've already bought a Milwaukee reciprocating saw, drill bits and a multitude of driver bits of all kinds. Even the razor knife and tape measure i bought have been very reliable. Just good quality. And I'm a very firm believer that in most things you get what you pay for. Although they're cheaper I've never had much luck with brands like Ryobi and the like. Only Ryobi piece I've got that has withstood the years is a table saw. Gotta admit it's been a trooper.

[@GingrBreadMan]

@@kevinlangley9644 lmfao I have a few thousand dollars easily into milwaukee but I keep around the cheapest tablesaw ryobi has and that thing has been impressive, mainly bought it because it was small and light for a table saw. I've had to do some modifications and repairs to keep it going but man for a cheap saw it's a champ.

[@tristanschaper281]

"Driving 1000 screws into a 2x4 puts tremendous load on the screws and the bit" -yeah, but what about the load on the Operator! How did you trigger finger and your hand and wrist feel after all of that? WOW! Job well done as always!!

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Great point. The hand was numb for about 12 hours.

[@mharrison1325]

Anti-vibe gloves are a valuable asset for jobs like this, mowing/trimming etc.

[@Denali_Rebel]

Mike Harrison video on the best antivibe gloves haha

[@catchara1496]

*the vibes of this drill... they are not good.*

[@michael931]

I would say test anti-vibe gloves, but you would have to drive another 1000 screws....

[@rybosaurus5664]

Mate you’re a legend. I broke literally 10+ bits with an impact driver on the weekend and was just about to buy more! Thanks for putting so much effort into all your content. 👍🏼

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad it helped

[@frtaylor29]

Dude.....you are the man. Impressive amount of patience exerted in this video. Hats off. God bless.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks a lot!

[@lancewalker429]

I am extremely grateful for the work that you do. As these bits are sold in bulk and are often used the most on a job site, these tests have shown me how important it is to figure cost and longevity into my future purchases. I wish I had watched this video before buying a pack of Milwaukee bits (after leaving harbor freight), but at least I know I'll be able to save some money when I inevitably have to replace them. Thanks for the info and all of the work you have done and continue to do. I'll try to be more patient and let you find the best options for my future purchases. You've not led me wrong yet.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@Ramn8tr]

I really appreciate the effort your put into all your tests. I’ve changed my mind on more than a few brands based on your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@TheClearSight]

for the normal average man you will never get a better testing channel on youtube than this. the amount of information and obversval data you get here is just insane.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@jamdc2000]

Shop teller: Why do you buy different brands? Me: Project Farm

[@ProjectFarm]

lol Thanks for the feedback.

[@cameronbarbour2500]

11:48

[@jrpena7857]

I don’t know much but I’ll tell you one thing. I don’t spend a dollar on a single toll until I see you talk about it. And honestly all my tools perform very reliably. Your work is very appreciated. Please don’t ever stop

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@jon8706]

I switched to using only Milwaukee bits a couple years ago. They last forever.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jamiedaugherty1]

The question is, are some of these made to the JIS standard? Yes, there is an Imperial and Metric cross recess screw driver! That could explain why some didn't fit as well to the screws.

[@jmonsted]

There's also Pozidrive and probably a few more older variants that are no longer used.

[@diadlo13]

Not none of them are JIS. JIS look completely different and aren't really sold in the us specially not in big bucks strores

[@ronaldswogger1139]

Have you ever seen the cost of a “standard” set of tools. A simple 1/4” ratchet and a set of 5 “standard” sockets whether imperial or metric can cost around $900+.

[@jumanji70]

@Scott Heslin you're brittish too.

[@joolsfreeman4359]

JIS refers to machine screws such a motorcycle engine case screws not this type of construction screw, Philips, pozidrive and JIS are all different

[@vincentlangel8555]

The level of work you do to comprehensively test everyday things we need to buy is amazing and we, the working public who just want to know how to use our dollars wisely, appreciate it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@rambandagi1]

If all could be as good as this guy in making reviews. No drama, No nonsense. Pure objective comparison. Thanks!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@timsawyer7443]

I love that you included the HFT brand that's NOT impact rated, but ADMITTED that throughout the testing (and even gave good reason for including it), and then included some HFT brands that ARE impact rated. I buy a number of Harbor Freight tools, but really try to look at each one to see if it's REALLY "junk" or the best thing since sliced bread. Therefore, I absolutely hate it when so-called "independent" testers clearly favor or try to embarrass (usually by the methodology of their tests) certain brands or ones from certain stores. I've NEVER seen anything in your videos that would give me any clue as to what brand you're a "fanboy" of, or absolutely despise -- now THAT'S fair and unbiased!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching!

[@simasimson5798]

PF is a fanboy of getting what you pay for, or as some people may call it, a smart man

[@brianlane9534]

You are correct sir. I've watched others that seem to have a party atmosphere to them. True knuckle draggers.

[@jeffhooper3447]

I will say he had to drive 1000 screws rapid fire and went for the DeWilt

[@Kurushineko]

Scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7

[@zubairejaz5188]

😂

[@warreschuurmans6462]

Glass is glass, and glass breaks

[@Dhdiebrhd]

JerryRigEverthing

[@bonob0123]

corny

[@chris4749]

Thiago Moreira 😂😂

[@Omegadoomship]

I’ve used the Dewalt bits and I’ve broken a lot of them while building my deck. Then I used a Milwaukee bit and I haven’t had a single problem with it and continue to use it for future builds. Ironically I was using a Delwalt impact driver using a Milwaukee bit.

[@chrismast2790]

Agreed.. Milwaukee has better products; Dewalt has better marketing. I've got a ton of Dewalt bits and tools, if they ever break, I'm switching over to Milwaukee.

[@hunterromano5562]

@@chrismast2790it has a lot to do with cost as well. My tool bag would easily quadruple in price if it was all Milwaukee, and it was purchased in the last year. I really like Milwaukee, but man they're proud of their stuff for sure.

[@ChrisGilliamOffGrid]

@@YoureUsingWordsIncorrectly I use DeWalt daily, no problems.

[@sonofRassmuss]

Dewalt power tools are excellent, their driver and drill bits not so much.

[@b3j8]

@@sonofRassmuss Just going to post the same. My Dewalt tools have been awesome!

[@johnputnam1440]

I’m always impressed with what you test and am often shocked with brands that seem to be popular. That being said, how about doing a video on padlock lubricant and outdoor padlock deicer? Thanks for what you do!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@200130769]

I'd also be interested in a padlock lube video.

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

Fear Allah

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

​@@ProjectFarmdon't die as a disbeliever

[@RebeccaQueen-ti1bk]

​@@200130769trade interest not allowed

[@GrandmasFolly]

As an electrician I use my impact all day, I’ve used the Milwaukee tips for 3 solid years after 4 years of using Makita tips. Milwaukee is the best on my opinion.

[@hotdog160]

Did you tried the black coated milwaukee ones ? I have it and its my favorite after the wurth AW. but for philips or pozidrive, it's even better than wurth or wiha

[@tomeng9520]

Torx bits is the best.

[@GrandmasFolly]

hot dog I do use the black coated impact Milwaukee tips mostly but just got a pack of the Shockwave Pozidrive tips so we will see.

[@GrandmasFolly]

tom eng Are you talking about torx tip style bits and screws? I’m unfamiliar with a brand of tips named Torx.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@slaughterzealibib]

I use an impact driver every day. By far Milwaukee is the best I have found.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great feedback! Thank you

[@Steviethegr8]

I also do and I thought that for a long time up until I tried the makita golds and I’ve never looked back since.. extremely rare to I have one spin out on me compared to the Milwaukee it’s night and day, try them if you hate them you lose out on like 5 bucks lol

[@TheAnalogKid2]

Made in China

[@kahvac]

Bought the Milwaukee Shockwave bits a few weeks ago using 3" drywall screws as nails for 2x4 stud work. Using an impact driver and they hold up very well. I'll buy them again.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@TheKutas3]

This is how a proper KZbin channel should be produced and run. Great insight and passion.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@chriswonder2747]

Thank you for always being so thoughtful, diverse, and consistant as possible in all your tests. Nobody else does what you do!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are so welcome!

[@38911bytefree]

i love how you try to keep conditions even and consistent, really impossible to even squeze a suggestion LOL. Great job !!!!!!

[@johnd7564]

First video of yours I've ever seen. But I've seen hundreds of others' reviews. You REALLY stand out for providing clear, objective data. Instant like and subscribe. Wow! I just noticed there are nearly 2M subscribers for this channel. Well-deserved, I'd say.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@juliendillingham6257]

10 brands, 4 tests, 12 minutes, clear data, fully unbiased etc... You can't ask for much more.

[@Wolfily99]

Why did I watch this multiple times, I don't even have an Impact Driver let alone any sort of power tools, still liked the video though

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching. Glad you liked the video!

[@markozsky]

Same

[@jfernandito8205]

😂

[@carpentryfirst3048]

I bought my first impact driver and drill combo a few years ago for at home. Its a good purchase if you own a home. Jist wait untill a combo set goes on sale.

[@blueovalfan23]

Get one and look at the battery options/cost on them. My old black and decker impact driver is pretty stout, my new ryobi is a bit better. They're both comparable to my 3/8 cordless impact though. Serious if you do anything, including mechanic work, you grow to love that tool.

[@josephferguson6883]

I found your channel by accident and it's made a huge difference in just 1 week of watching. I'm a field tech (low voltage) and use cordless tools daily. Your testing allows me to balance durability and price so I can choose the right tool for me. Thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@andrewpoloni4197]

This is the best channel on KZbin. I love my new Project Farm t-shirts btw. :)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much! I priced the shirts well below the Teespring suggested price. The goal is to recoup the costs for the graphic designer and to help fund the videos. Thanks again!

[@wallacefrey6247]

I would love to see this same test with the longer bits that lock directly into the impact. I hardly ever use the little bits that require the magnetic bit holder.

[@halflife82]

Wallace Frey exactly! I don’t think anyone uses them. They’re piece count “fillers” for marketing on the packaging mainly... All I use are square Robertson for everything. Philips are garbage!

[@justinfreeman6091]

I agree!!!! I build prefab stairs and use both style!!!

[@kenwinget6196]

I agree with this. I do construction work and have tried many variations and will only use DeWalt bits but generally use #2 square bits when I can

[@luckeycat_]

In my experience, the meduim vs the short (doesn't matter which brand) are more or less the same in operation. The long (again, any brand) may bend easy with a bump, impact or drop. I can't tell you how many long bits I've had get mangled because the drill fell over directly on the bit.

[@urjnlegend]

I always prefer to use the short bits, the long ones tend to be alot more cumbersome and they're less modular. The jobs I've worked on, you need modularity, sleeves for long screws, a ton of different bits on the fly, and the longer bits just tend to be more single job specific, but for say home renovations, the long bits just tend to be a pain to work with. Plus with how fast bits can go bad, it just makes more sense to replace it with 20 more, on the fly.

[@HomebrewHorsepower]

Working today on a project that will require driving hundreds of screws. I knew I would need to buy some more bits, so before heading out I came here and watched this video. This stuff is absolute gold and I really appreciate the hard work that goes into each of these videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!