Pulling the Paccar out.

[@philipspencer1834]

It’s only when you take the damn things apart that you realise how big they are compared to ordinary engines… great work Warren. 👍😎

[@ljhutchens3911]

Hey Warren I have been a long time subscriber and just now found out how to leave a comment. I have been a diesel mechanic for 25 years and I have learned a lot of stuff from your channel. You are one heck of a technician and hard worker. Just wanted you to know I enjoy your videos.

[@ilovemydad1416]

That's Awesome!

[@SeanJKeys]

I am a young tech gotta keep the good knowledge passing down

[@michaelmcdonald6727]

Hey Warren, you got that engine out in good time. Will be interesting watching it go back together. Thanks much!

[@dennisbailey4296]

I know you've tried helpers before, I just don't love doing everything alone!! And I find I can feed off of others to work out stuff as things come up!! You do really well on your own!! All the best from Canada

[@pjchris90]

You are right about the engineers trying to do something different on just about everything, but the main reason is avoidence of patent payments if they use someone elses designs. On rare occasion they actually improve the engine by accident mainly.

[@TestECull]

The main reason is to increase revenues, actually. PACCAR makes more money if you have to put a shortblock in the truck than if you can just throw a set of bearings and a crank in the existing one.

[@billiet330]

Was gonna go to bed, now more beers and a warren video!!

[@Boga217]

Beers? It's a 45 minute video, might want some help with that problem.

[@gregshearer423]

@@Boga217 not hard to drink a couple beers in 45mins

[@Boga217]

@@gregshearer423 exactly, if your a binge drinker. Which makes him a alcoholic who needs help

[@gregshearer423]

@@Boga217 no it doesn’t anyone who drinks can drink a couple beers in 45 minutes really not hard

[@Boga217]

@@gregshearer423 For a typical adult, this pattern corresponds to consuming 5 or more drinks (male), or 4 or more drinks (female), in about 2 hours.

[@shawnchurch316]

I have rebuilt a few engines that utilized cracked main caps that suffered from spun main bearings. The way the machine shop I use dealt with it is by machining the end of the main caps and the main cap register on the block. Once the ends of the caps were machined flat the block and caps were drilled for locating dowels and the caps were bolted back into the block and it was line bored. After that they recut the the notches for the bearings. If everything is done correctly the crankshaft centerline would not be affected. It is essentially the same process as resizing the big ends of connecting rods. Depending on the cost of a new block it may not be worth doing that machine work. If oversize main bearings were available for the paccar mx13 engine there wouldn't be any issues with reusing that block. Another option would be plasma transferred wire arc spray welding which is used by many oem manufacturers. That process can be used to create cylinder liners on aluminum blocks and ford actually used that process for the gt350 engine and for their reman diesel engine so they can return bores to standard sizes.

[@dougpfaff4763]

Ah, you beat me to it, Shawn.

[@dougpfaff4763]

One nit to pick, I wouldn't use plasma. I think I'd just use arc spray for this purpose

[@dieselhatz4247]

Re-read your post Shawn, makes perfect sense. Great idea to return the mating surfaces flat and “overbore” the mains by line boring them, returning them to OEM tolerance. Thank you for the post!!

[@Rx7man]

@@dieselhatz4247 I just rebuilt an E89FG Hatz diesel I retrofitted to a Holder A12 tractor

[@davidfarley1175]

Warren I turned wrenches for 40 years, my biggest problem was I was a clean freak if the shop was cluttered and tools not put back I'd have to clean it before starting the day. I didn't want work all day-tripping over airlines and tools laying around have to look for tools that wasn;t put back where I could find them

[@robertmartin5662]

Warren I watch your videos all the time. And I live by Rockford I’ll . Just mention Rockford. Keep on a trucker man,your a knowledgeable asset to the mechanics. God bless Warren.

[@BikerBloke600]

Lol Warren. "A good kick in the Ball Sack" 🤣🤣👍🍻

[@iceman9549]

Warren you are great at what you do. Amazing to watch! But unbelievable how much plastic is on the engine Another great video! 👍👍👍

[@noelhohberger1188]

Great stuff Warren. Never a dull episode

[@shammi8133]

Analysis of motor is on point and approved

[@Bodhranarama]

Yeah Warren everything's built for assembly not maintenance. It's all billable hours though, even if it is sometimes miserable work. Thanks for posting.

[@calumanderson5617]

Thank you for the video Warren 👍 hope none other ag tractor manufacturers ever want to fit that Paccar throw away engine's, yep remember Wayne's world too, but also Police Academy 1 and 4, shit I'm old man.

[@uggy7]

You're awesome Warren, you make us laugh nearly every video with the stuff you come out with. Our favorite channel. Keep up the good work Warren, stay healthy, we enjoy your ramblings. 👍👍🇨🇮🇨🇦🐶❤

[@Rx7man]

"Guy who designed this needs a good kick in the ball sack".. Oh have I ever felt that way too!

[@Prariedog]

That engine is a mess. Great video Warren Thanks for sharing.

[@chuckgulledge2304]

I see your making good use of that lift truck. I would like to see more videos of your repairing it

[@TheSagerider]

I have been waiting for that one! Got to pay the bills though.

[@johnnybuss5637]

Warren must definitely take that time for himself to get the better function.

[@snowrider004]

I hate working on those Paccars. Better make sure to replace the plastic coolant fittings in the head also. I have had a bunch of those break on me and end up on the hook. Great idea using plastic coolant fittings on a engine. Love the videos.

[@dirtfarmer7472]

I’ve seen a couple people that took the PacCar out and replaced it with a Cummins or Detroit. Solved lots of problems, expensive but permanent.

[@ekeller88]

Yes should have just put a cummins x15 in it and then be done with the mx13 problems.

[@howardlaunius7484]

Congrats on the 100K Subscriber mark.

[@31144]

Lifting engines out is a sure fire way of testing the tensile strength of anything you've forgotten to disconnect 👍

[@josdaalmans6977]

Is the transmission on the Forklift fixed? It was a struggle to use it what I remember.

[@mikeseguin8289]

Party on Wayne party on garth lol funny movie man I really enjoy your channel it's entertaining but also educational thank you keep up the awesome work

[@dssm25]

You real patent till the rocker box wouldn't come out i enjoyed your comments about the engineers i agree not my favorite thing to work on either keep up the hard work

[@twistin140]

Thanks for the share Warren. sorry i'm late to comment.... but i hit the like button as soon as i saw it pop up.

[@scottkaercher1733]

Make an A frame and put thick foam on the front and botton of the A frame so when you need to put anything thats delicate like a radiator you don't have to worry about crushing any pipes or plastic and when you lean it back you wont hurt any coils in the radiator. You won't bend any flaps so it'll stay open for air to go through.

[@ranger5721]

sounds like your forklift is running real good now, and good work warren on everything you do

[@techmeister8355]

missed the forklift teardown

[@richardhoneywell7411]

Great video Warren that's half the battle it out. Really enjoy your commentary. Looking forward to the next video on this engine stay safe Warren.

[@anthony1636]

Its very frustrating when you work on an new Engine. But to be honest after you have pulled one or two MX13s, they are quite easy to remove. Its just knowing what needs removing and although they may look complicated at first glance. We find them no harder than a Cummings or Detroit. But I must agree about modern Engines and plastic parts.

[@jamesfry3495]

Look forward to watching your videos Every morning

[@Ever443]

Warren, Love your description of these modern diesels. "overengineered POS" They overengineer them with the cheapest parts they can make. Seems the factories are driving the engineering of the engines so you will have to take it to a dealer to get them fixed. The software has already begun. Sad times.

[@TestECull]

Yup. It ain't just OTR trucks either. Fucking everything your eyes fall on anymore, all built the same way.

[@u.p.tinkering]

Thanks for the upload Warren, love the channel!

[@lukusgray1031]

After watching this I now know why the mx 13 bragged so much about being a lighter weight motor. It's made from recycled Legos! I'll keep my n14 cummins any day. Great video!

[@stephenharper3391]

I feel your pain. I work on mx13 paccars every day at ups. They’re a very expensive boat anchor.

[@bigunone]

I wondered about line boring when I first heard about fractured bearing caps. I wonder how much they save using them

[@Boga217]

About 30% with a simple google search.

[@jimmyaber5920]

Fractured caps save a bit of machine time but they are used due to being the best location method for caps. Broken cranks and spun bearings are very rare failures so you don't compromise strength for serviceability in this case.

[@keithhill9138]

That sky hook you have there is the best tool in your shop!!!

[@petershute3580]

While you’ve got it out would you change the clutch and brake while it’s out

[@retydeere1111]

Awesome! Here we go!!! ……was waitn’ 4 it

[@andymacpherson7424]

Nice 1 Warren.. Hear in the UK we talk about Bold Head size more and the socket required ....ie, a M12 Bolt would have a 19mm head on it, so we would say its a 19mm headed bolt needing a 19mm socket to remove it.. Keep up the Good work .. Keep them Vids Coming :) :) Andy UK ..

[@squintin480]

The radiator blew on my freightliner a few years ago. I called up freightliner and had them send me one. Got the old one out and set the new one in with the forklift and started bolting it back in and realized there were no connections for the trans cooler lines🤣 They billed me the right one but pulled the wrong one

[@gs1100ed]

They should make pickups with tilt hoods. No idea why they don’t.

[@gamo8510]

Especially those f250's

[@ciaransynnott7958]

I no for some engines I work with you can get a bigger od bearing to allow for line honing the mains

[@timtarran8124]

The only thing considered is how quick and cheap and an engine can be assembled, absolutely zero thought is given to taking apart for repair

[@adamgardner4213]

DD15 the compressor coolant lines If there are the factory original Black plastic lines don't fuck around with them Replace with the updated steel lines. They will start out with a little dribble/small leak and then snap off going down the road and turn into Ochit Dont ask how I know The Paccar coolant leak on the R/S frame rail is the coolant tree/manifold leaking They usually leak because the nipples are pressed in They heat up expand and leak Also you may want to do a crankcase filter on that engine prior to installing They are a PITA to access when in the frame I usually pull the ECM to gain access Check coolant lines on back of the compressor they are prone to leaking

[@bodey-m]

How long does it take you to do a ccv filter by removing it from above?

[@blacksmoke5009]

Not a fan of fractured cap design just another way to throw out instead of being able to rebuild! Thanks for sharing partner take care now hope everything and everyone are well 👍

[@notyou6950]

I feel your pain. Can't get any good help now days to work at a burger joint much less a tool slingers shop. It's been years now since my shop hired a seasoned technician with years of on the job experience. Right now they lowered all the requirements down to zero and started to hire apprentices. Another way to put it we got an equivalent of a sign by the road that says "Handy man needed. Will train".

[@colinmyers8841]

hi Warren , greetings from Queensland , Australia , ??what would cause a Paccar crank to brake ,, cheers mate, good job ,,

[@deborahwebb3598]

Warren you’re just like my husband, he’s an automotive engineer and he hates all the stupid crap they place on an engine that is really not necessary!,

[@shammi8133]

Prime example of look what we can do without any should we do mixed in

[@jeffsnider3588]

I agree, hydraulic fittings, fuel fittings or electrical connectors there are hundreds of styles but someone decides a new design is needed every year and I'm an Engineer.

[@larrysitts2524]

THE next time you have a hard to break loose an ac line or break line that will not give try using your air hammer on the fitting in one place for only about 3 or 4 hits works well for me also workes on hyd lines , if you knew this sorry only trying to help love to watch .... lets go brandon!

[@philipspencer1834]

…’the guy who designed this needs a kick in the balls until he’s coughing up blood…’ Priceless absolutely priceless 🤣

[@Chad.Heinrich.]

I happen to catch a radio show the other day where someone had called in with the same broken crank scenario on an MX. apparently it’s becoming somewhat of a common issue caused by mechanical over speed. Jaking for long periods at high rpm’s loaded heavy is usually the event prior leading up to it. It’s really to bad seeing that fractured main. Everything is becoming throw away unfortunately.

[@tammylott921]

SEEING HOW THE U.S.A. IS FIXING TO GO INTO A DEPRESSION ,, ALL THAT THROW AWY IS FIXING TO CHANGE ... PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START REBUILDING PARTS AGAIN INSTEAD OF THROWING PARTS AWAY & JUST REPLACING WITH NEW ........

[@heavymachinery2843]

A warren Video on a sunday morning nice 👍👍

[@rdecoster1]

I never seen the big pry bar before. That baby is a Big one. That engine was coming out of that truck come heck or high water!!

[@truckertom50]

I'm new! love ur show! From one gearhead to another!

[@PoliticalGangster]

this gonna be a good series

[@larryburns4605]

In a lot of cases they make over size bearings for OD and you line bore and hone and works well but bearing mfgr's can do it works well on the 3 i have seen done .

[@danasixty5402]

Warren , It looks like a Cluster Flock .

[@TsunauticusIV]

Hey guys. Anybody know about what that engine weighed? Not a bare engine weight but as a dressed unit like he pulled in this vid? Anybody have knowledge of what that weight would be?

[@dieselman8v923]

About 2,600 lbs

[@TsunauticusIV]

@@dieselman8v923 I googled and saw that too but is that in the exact shape that he pulled it? With accessories mounted?

[@williamriedel1686]

Your patience is epic.

[@henrymichaelwilson8107]

Hello Warren. That engine seems small in comparison to what you are used to. All pipe's and wires.

[@scottwilke3966]

Hey waren thanks for bringing me along dont you just love how some bolts holding brackets and other plastic junk on engine blocks are metric and others are not ? Seems to me anything bolted onto the engine use mm metric ? Actual engine use good old standard U S. ? Keep on truckin waren g.

[@ace1usmc]

I'm confused about something. You said you put a transmission jack under the tranny to hold it up - but if you are lifting the engine high enough to clear that front crossmember so that you can move the engine forward to get it off the input shaft - how is the transmission not binding all of this up because it would lift up with the engine, putting an incredible load on the clutch splines/input shaft, and binding to the point of not allowing the engine to move forward. Not to mention, what happens to the transmission when the input shaft comes out? The tranny would fall back down onto the jack saddle. How did you pull this off?

[@davidfleishman2275]

Was the idea of cracked/fractured cap to reduce cap to block,cap to connecting rod fretting and walking?But, in the end the rod or block is junk if something happens to it.

[@cleenlivin]

I’ve wondered if Warren can take out commercial truck engine blindfolded and explain each step while doing it? I can see how working for him would be challenging and intimidating. This man knows his way around heavy equipment. Question? I’ve worked on small cars and sometimes worry about forgetting which bolt goes where and how did it go together again? Warren works on a variety of equipment and doesn’t always have the luxury to work on one thing from start to finish. How do stay organized which such major tear downs? Splitting a tractor looks like a legit nightmare to me.

[@Rx7man]

Well, in the case of that JD that broke the cam.. he'd done it a few times already!

[@robertrpenny]

WR why can't a machine shop align bore or hone the mains oversize and install thicker bearings without affecting the fractured cap surfaces?

[@dougpfaff4763]

As an option, Warren, and I say it's a possibility, not a definite solution, metal spray might have been an option for those main caps. Have em machined past the damage plus say .050" thermal sprayed with the appropriate material, and machined back to size.

[@jasoncampbell5518]

Not a diesel mechanic but why couldn't the block be machined and converted over to a one piece main cap ?

[@michaellgagliardi4988]

Warren l miss your videos people suck I had to deal with car dealerships for 28 years I wouldn't worry about the na sayer's they suck as well we need more videos thanks Mike.

[@PrairieMechanic]

Was one of the caps in need or replacement? I can’t understand why it couldn’t be line bored if all the caps were bolted down in place. If one cap needs replaced it makes sense why but if all original caps I don’t see why not.

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Fractured main caps, can't replace bad cap and line bore, pos engine.

[@aaronbryant1008]

Abomb79 does spray welding... maybe hit him up about the main cap question...

[@aaronbryant1008]

@@rodmyob i would be interested if it could even be done. Who knows if parts shortages may become even more prevalent in the future.

[@breikowski]

Put a come along on the long side to balance the load

[@BobTheBreaker9]

I use the head size of the bolt for reference😬

[@terrancewagner5056]

anyone catch the year and milage of that truck?? great work as always

[@9793c2]

Is it possible to change that engine out for an X15 or does the same engine have to go back in? Great video!

[@kennardjohnson7875]

I have a landstar buddy in Oregon, his paccar engine went a knocking in Idaho, I told him about Warren and drop a Cummins in it. No went to dealer and spent 80ty grand on a new paccar motor. I don't know what I'm going to do about my 2010 cheap kw , Cummins. It's been patched up,but top end has over a million on it.

[@michaelcarlson1528]

LOL, I work at the airport in Rockford, Illinois. Grew up just outside Rockford. I was a bit taken back when you mentioned Rockford. What has your son been doing? I haven’t seen him since he helped you! Thank you for sharing Warren!

[@thomasbailey8306]

Boy Warren these new engines are junk. Wow...Never in my life Have I heard of a Block being junk after a crank broke. Unless it broke where connecting rods were and it went out the side of the block. But for it to be still running not good and Still junked the block.WOW...Was that upper part where the wires were for injectors supposed to be the Rocker boxes...PLASTIC...UGH...I just dont get this Country..RANT OVER..UGH..Another great job pulling that JUNK apart..And Great Video...

[@merlepatterson]

Yeah, I kind of thought pulling the engine and replacing the block would be a result from seeing the last video.

[@ivoroberts8420]

We would magna flux the block and if it wasn't cracked we wold order a cap and over size tha main block and cap bore. We would first check the align bore of the other saddles and if straight with each other then sleeve the bad hole back to STD main bearings.that block could end up a good core for future use.

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

They are fractured main caps.

[@gasperajdnik5627]

Good work warren 👍🔧

[@rgbrown90]

I have to explain to adults the difference between the size of the bolt vs the size of the hex head or the cap screw size for an Allen head

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

You sound thoroughly exhausted.

[@yvindHvaal]

I love your comment about the one who constructed the Paccar dd 13 and 15. In Europa we have them in Renault and DAF trucks. And they are all cabovers. They are all crap. Imagine working on these engines under a lifted cab. I've seen mechanics with tears in their eyes after being yelled at for using too much time doing work on these machines. And something breakes all the time.. useless piece of crap, just syin'

[@dondorfman3951]

My goodness I am surprised the machine shop hasn't considered milling all the cap registers and the caps themselves then line boring the block

[@dougjones9493]

Did you check if they make oversized bearings

[@MrCrabbing]

Its crazy why they have to invent a dozen new ways to fasten a wiring clip or connect a hose, your dam right there, I used to wonder who has a job inventing new plugs and connectors, No Need.

[@Romuls753]

Speaking of 13 liters, Warren do you know if someone could rebuild a 12.7 Series 60 as a 14 bolt? Is there anything obvious like liner bore dimensions stopping someone?

[@dev-debug]

Not a tractor guy but never heard of a Paccar. That an engine company or one specific model ?

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Paccar manufactures Kenworth and Peterbilt.

[@denjhill]

Designers suck. I agree. My field is cartography, map making. Way back in the 70's we were trying to use computers to help us. We had to hire programmers. They would always produce a program, usually one that didn't work without a lot of tweaking. The problem was there were no programmers who also knew how to make an accurate map. So when they thought they had a good product they actually had a bad product. Over time we learned to do our own programming and eventually solved the problems. Moral of story is: if you're the office guy make damn sure you get your ass to the field to see how things actually work.

[@richardvirchow2757]

? If you bought a truck with a Paccar can you just completely change to a comply different engine? Keeping everything else the same. Sincerely! R.S.V.

[@crandonborth]

Yeah you can, he made a few video on swapping a CAT engine to a Cummins. Personally I’m a huge fan of the ISX’s so that’s what I’d swap it over to… no pushrods like this engine just a simple overhead cam. As for transmission… most semis unless you are running a auto are pretty the same mount as you can get a variety of motors in the same truck.

[@gs1100ed]

Throw away society. Everything is designed to replace, not to repair. Back in the day, things were designed to be easy to work on with common tools by ordinary people.

[@bcbloc02]

As a fixer machinist I think it would be possible to mill the block and the cap and insert dowels and then align bore it. Honestly that cap doesn't look that bad. I know farmers that would loctite the bearing in and send it and probably get away with it. lol

[@spencerblocher4320]

Great work sir! Really appreciate the videos. I am sure you’ve been asked this many times, but what area in CA are you in?

[@ericcorse]

One of my nephews has Walker hounds for hunting and racing. They go apeshite when they hear a siren about 30 seconds before I do.

[@jcsully]

My mechanic and I just finished a complete out of frame rebuild on my 12.7 Detroit. I appreciate my engine. But, after watching you work on that new piece of shit, I appreciate it 10 times more. Emission engines are GARBAGE!!

[@onemoredeadman]

Party on Garth, you're being too polite about engineerds. Ball sack kicking and all. They should have to work a week in a shop before designing anything

[@paulteirney3587]

It always makes me laugh when you see engineered part that are built and used in machinery that could have been better designed by the guy in the workshop for easy of repairs and maintenance. Had jobs to do that were drawn up in cad and when been put together could not fit because other parts are in the way.

[@sparty94]

how do you break a crank on a beast like that?