Putting a NEW Motor in the STARK VARG Electric Dirt Bike

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Electric Cycle Rider

Electric Cycle Rider

Күн бұрын

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@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын
Range test next!
@boatelectricaldiy
@boatelectricaldiy Жыл бұрын
Better be! Lol.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Really curious to see if you get similar range results as I did.
@JR-yd9sf
@JR-yd9sf Жыл бұрын
me too@@enforcer-enduro
@JohnHowerton137
@JohnHowerton137 Жыл бұрын
People’s fixation on range is just dumb to me. It’s so variable it’s almost irrelevant. 30min-5hrs depending on your ✊ Seb 15 miles. Weekend squid 50 miles.
@boatelectricaldiy
@boatelectricaldiy Жыл бұрын
@@JohnHowerton137 Range makes a big difference when you need to lift the bike to swap the battery. If this bike is the "Holy grail", it better act like it with a pro on top of it and have the best range when all variables are considered.
@josiahestabrook5257
@josiahestabrook5257 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a true honest company that doesn't mess around. I hope Stark keeps on this track in the coming years. If so they're fan base will be absolute die hards. Great video 👌
@BramBiesiekierski
@BramBiesiekierski Жыл бұрын
100%. Things break, shit happens, it's life. Whether it be a mechanical failure or a human error, it sucks, but it happens in pretty much every industry, trade, product and service etc. What's important is how it's handled afterwards. And it sounds like Stark handled the situation well. Being honest. Not trying to cover ass / hide stuff. Covering parts that fail. Giving the right advice and information needed to perform the repairs in the event of a failure. Prompt service. Good communication. These are all signs of trustworthy company.
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 8 ай бұрын
I'm so excited to watch the competitive scene move to electric. It's gonna be chaotic and exciting and a transition unlike any other. 2 stroke to 4 stroke? lol, that's gonna look like a speed bump compared to the disruption that is coming
@MrMrMrMrMrT
@MrMrMrMrMrT Жыл бұрын
You're a KZbinr. Of course they serve you as fast as they can. I wanna see a no-name customer being serviced like this.
@2stroketommy465
@2stroketommy465 Жыл бұрын
Mine just keeps getting pushed back... my order date was Dec 15 2021
@jonmeray713
@jonmeray713 Жыл бұрын
@@2stroketommy465ohhhh but the other commenters claim they are “cranking out bikes” 😂. Hope you get yours…..
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 8 ай бұрын
Man, is the dirtbike community full of dirtbags?
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad 18 күн бұрын
I'm a nobody and I got a new motor and battery in the same fashion
@davidmcdermott3415
@davidmcdermott3415 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see how they support someone without a KZbin channel.
@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE
@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE Жыл бұрын
The first civilian to tear down a Stark Varg!
@dukedynasty
@dukedynasty 13 күн бұрын
He’s not the first there’s 2 others channels that did this already
@bosco5
@bosco5 Жыл бұрын
Props for publishing this. I can imagine marketing at the company would have preferred you bury this info. Appreciate your honest reviews, and continue to recommend you as a resource. Btw my Varg is supposed to be ready next month. Should I wait?
@EVMANVSGAS
@EVMANVSGAS Жыл бұрын
I'm sure Electric Cycle Rider got a little bit of special treatment to get it there so fast. I mean the fast shipping had to cost them a lot but not as much as a bad review. This is the second inverter I have heard about going out on a Varg. Hopefully they learn from these issues and beef up the inverter/drivetrain to handle the way a dirt bike is ridden. I'm rooting for them as you can see by my name and I hope they sell a street legal version of the same bike. Or something very similar.
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad 18 күн бұрын
I got a new motor and battery a few months back too. Battery had an issue, the motor was working well but had some tiny cracks. The customer service is outstanding
@kingken5395
@kingken5395 Жыл бұрын
How long did you have it b4 it faulted? And did they let you keep the old motor?
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 8 ай бұрын
I want one of these so bad. Stark seems to be such an exciting company. It just seems like such a refined package for something so new.
@paulawestcott7228
@paulawestcott7228 Жыл бұрын
This video will assist in skyrocketing the Varg sales. Very reliable Co.
@yoda68zac11
@yoda68zac11 Жыл бұрын
I managed to over-current my bac4000 on sur Ron and had to buy replacement. Yours would've been real expensive if it happened just after warrenty runs out aye? When the only real option is full replacement of big parts like that it does make "repair" quite expensive. Hopefully they will be close to bulletproof soon. Did Varg want the old motor back?
@2stroketommy465
@2stroketommy465 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if people waiting for pre orders weren't getting pushed back while you tubers are getting their second motor motor shipped directly to them. I'm curious what your order date was....
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 8 ай бұрын
Dude, don't be a clown. You're suggesting a major company abandon warranty claims, a separate allotment of the parts you make for that reason entirely? Come on man, get a grip.
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar Жыл бұрын
I hope that they’ll be that fast to fix issues to all customers, and not just you because you have a channel with followers. But for now they look very serious. Only issue are delivery time, weight and apparently battery life for some customers, depending on how and where they use the bike.
@swank171
@swank171 Жыл бұрын
Love it…these guys are cranking bikes out and honoring warranty issues. They are definitely impressing me and I don’t regret my order whatsoever! I remember being told this company is “vapor ware” and that I was crazy but it was the best 100$ i ever risked. I know range tests have to be the hardest content you make cause you can’t just range test it once….you have to do different levels and terrain…you think you could get us a track range test to compare to the trail?? We appreciate the content and definitely understand that range testing is incredibly time consuming and it’s impossible to meet every persons range questions. The amount of uses people have for this bike is endless and we all wanna see our range question answered. Granted mine will be here in a couple weeks I’m interested to see what you get for range to compare to. Again thanks for the content!
@seamarsh3756
@seamarsh3756 Жыл бұрын
cranking out bikes?
@swank171
@swank171 Жыл бұрын
@@seamarsh3756 one factory….be realistic. What do you want? Thousands of bikes a month and quality? Unrealistic….people just look for a reason to hate….. No one hated on alta and they didn’t do anything close to what stark is doing….just cause people actually want electric bikes now we are gonna be hard on a company making such a huge change in the industry?
@weswilliams4661
@weswilliams4661 Жыл бұрын
No where in the video does he say it was free or even called it warranty work.
@weswilliams4661
@weswilliams4661 Жыл бұрын
From what I read on there website I don’t think these things come with any warranty lol
@DBGE001
@DBGE001 10 ай бұрын
Love your comment, spot on!@@swank171
@paullynch1938
@paullynch1938 Жыл бұрын
A new motor already, not really a good advert for them, bit of a shame
@federico297
@federico297 Жыл бұрын
It can happen, as you said every brand can have problems with some bikes/parts so i'm not too worried (just an example, 2023 ktm sx 125 with blown motors after 2/3 hours with a broken rod....). The one think that angers me is the non-communication of stark with his customers. You had that quick responce because you give them visibility, they know the bike is good (i know too, i tested it), so they want a good image. But that's not the reality for us "normal" customers: guys that paid for the entire bike back in june and haven't see the bike yet and got always vague answers from Stark. That's not how you behave. I hope they figured prduction out as it seems they're starting making customers bike right now 😢
@CncObsession
@CncObsession Жыл бұрын
After a few practice swaps, how long do you estimate a pro mechanic to do it? The parts all looked very well built. That battery looks easy to make a quick change for. Do you have more footage of the swap? I would love to see how the parts nest together if that is allowed.
@JeroenRoegiers
@JeroenRoegiers Жыл бұрын
Check these out, doesn't say how to swap the motor, but it shows how to replace the battery. www.youtube.com/@starkfutureofficial/videos
@Briggsys_Stuff
@Briggsys_Stuff Жыл бұрын
Cool that you got it sorted quickly. I do wonder how long it would have took if you wanted Stark to organise the swap out like you would if your brand new KTM blew up? Where’s your nearest Stark dealer, as not every owner is going to want to do that job!?
@Meekerextreme
@Meekerextreme Жыл бұрын
Or have the know how to do that job. A lot of people going to electric bikes have told me they went that route because they don't want to work on engines etc. It's why Surron Ultra Bee, and Rawrr Mantis and others have a large following. People just want to ride, not have to turn a wrench.
@BubbaaGoodwin
@BubbaaGoodwin 3 ай бұрын
So can u just buy the motor or u have to have one of those to get a motor if not I just want to buy just the motor and how would I do that ? Or I can buy just the motor on the website u buy them from?
@cmx4eva
@cmx4eva Жыл бұрын
Cost of mtr & controller & whats the warranty on a sv?
@JWest1
@JWest1 3 ай бұрын
I am planning to convert my dad's 1979 Kawasaki KZ650 to electric, and I am looking for the perfect powertrain to use. All the options we have available drastically limit my options as far as battery voltage. I prefer to have a high voltage battery, 360v nominal, using 75ah pouch cells, so it would end up being 100s1p, 360v 75ah = 27KWH. INSANE battery size for a motorcycle. I would have a range of roughly 300 miles on a single charge. I am just now really considering the Stark Varg powertrain, considering it has a nominal battery voltage of 360v and is an AC motor. Damn shame its 3500 bucks used, but my question is, is it worth it?
@dylanketchum6199
@dylanketchum6199 Жыл бұрын
Where do I buy stark drive train I've looked everywhere I'm building my own bike and this power train is perfect for what I'm looking for
@vintagetrikesandquads4012
@vintagetrikesandquads4012 Жыл бұрын
Where are you riding? Looks like a great place--very scenic.
@bryarjamak
@bryarjamak Жыл бұрын
you went to say the stook motor of stark varg is not good ? its shut down for enduro ? must be changed the stook motor if you ride for enduro ???*_*
@evltwin984
@evltwin984 Жыл бұрын
Wont be the same response for us nobodys without big yt channels. Remember all eyes are on them right now, they need to tread carefully. And any other brand would do the same in their position
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv Жыл бұрын
People are overreacting to this issue. My Redshift & KTM Freeride both had battery and controller issues when I got on the first batch. It only made the bikes better when the issue was discovered and they warranted it. New bikes always have some kind of issues, especially a company from the ground up. I doubt you would get that kind of service from Sur Ron being an average customer on a high-end bike like this. My GasGas 300 starter kept going out and the head gasket would always peel away on the exhaust side. Turned out to be a metallurgy problem with the studs causing one of them to stretch and not hold torque. Anyway, people are just allergic to common sense nowadays.
@seamarsh3756
@seamarsh3756 Жыл бұрын
Terrible analogy... Ktm is not a startup and Alta went bankrupt overnight and completely screwed everyone that bought one!
@Caldana1219
@Caldana1219 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a riding wonderland.
@jesolla
@jesolla Жыл бұрын
was that a t7 in your garage?
@jamesgregware5500
@jamesgregware5500 Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to know if the HP is dialed down, does the battery last significantly longer? I love to trail ride thru the mountains - relatively hard. The day was we would go on our 360 Husky's 3-4 hours, fill up and do it all again. I'm wondering if with the 80HP motor, if dialed down to 45 or so, would that last 4-5 hours at a pretty hard pace... ?
@MrMrMrMrMrT
@MrMrMrMrMrT Жыл бұрын
Yes it does, the less power you demand from the battery, the more capacity you get out of it. Though, 4-5h on a hard place with 6.5kWh sounds not realistic. I get 1.5-2h on a hard place with 4kWh having only 17HP.
@jonmeray713
@jonmeray713 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMrMrMrMrTalso known as speculation
@timothykamholz7222
@timothykamholz7222 Жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool if Stark. Did they compensate for your labor?
@eatmilkgamer9827
@eatmilkgamer9827 Жыл бұрын
How much for the broken one
@mitikumitiku4442
@mitikumitiku4442 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to read. A quick and good action from STARK to send you the spare parts. Who paid fore the work to change the drivetrain? I had the idea that they should have changed the bike.
@jonjackson6245
@jonjackson6245 Жыл бұрын
Are there any trained techs to work on Stark?
@gophop
@gophop Жыл бұрын
When doing the range test, please note the level at which you start to feel the power decline. I'm thinking at 40% it will be quite noticeable.
@JohnHowerton137
@JohnHowerton137 Жыл бұрын
Probably more like 10-15%. Even the Freeride is like this and the Stark is 10X more advanced.
@douglasyoung3992
@douglasyoung3992 Жыл бұрын
What is stock futures warranty going to be on the main powertrain components? That could be costly if not covered
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar Жыл бұрын
2 years warranty on there website on the bike.
@keenabout1
@keenabout1 Жыл бұрын
The first 6 or so XR400'S that came to Australia all blew up. Anndd Honda didn't replace the motor, they had to be rebuilt by the desler
@dcmotive
@dcmotive Жыл бұрын
Nice that they stand behind it. Zero absolutely refuses to fix my fx. They just upload a new firmware each time I have problem and wait for the warranty to expire. Only a lawyer will make them budge. I should have waited for the Varg. Id recommend to stay away from Zero as far as possible for anyone making the decision. A license plate is awesome, but the company is using all its money to keep the company afloat and not honoring its customers. A recipe for failure.
@BubbaaGoodwin
@BubbaaGoodwin 3 ай бұрын
So can u just the motor and just asking? What do I go on to do it
@BubbaaGoodwin
@BubbaaGoodwin 3 ай бұрын
Buy
@hna_gaming2156
@hna_gaming2156 Жыл бұрын
i want to know about the payment process, did you pay it all at once?
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
If you have to make payments on a bike you are buying too expensive of a bike. Save up.
@steves2241
@steves2241 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtheidelbach Kurt, you are a clown, if someone needs to make payments to get one that is fine, get a life dork.
@jeanrenaut196
@jeanrenaut196 Жыл бұрын
In enduro mode, in mode 50 hp you can expect 40km with 50% of battery. For me its better than all other electric brand : ktm, surron, admit, electric motion and so much power!
@JoshStreetDesign
@JoshStreetDesign Жыл бұрын
Not the way I ride, lol
@kandydavins
@kandydavins Жыл бұрын
Im interested to know if the phone sends feedback to them about the problem in the bike. That would be cool lol
@wilowelm
@wilowelm Жыл бұрын
put some supermoto wheels and go for a ride in the city
@kandydavins
@kandydavins Жыл бұрын
Saw the title and thought you were doing a mod and was like WTF you are crazy!
@SCakey
@SCakey Жыл бұрын
I bought a new bike with a bad engine, got a new engine...2 months later. Still annoys me so 4 days...yea that's not bad at all, was hoping for the price that Stark would take care of you and sounds like they did.
@bearbeau13
@bearbeau13 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they sent you a check for your labor.
@just_one_opinion
@just_one_opinion Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE DEFENDING THEM????
@markkitaoka8783
@markkitaoka8783 Жыл бұрын
Great attitude. I go to look at one this week.
@jerryohanlon101
@jerryohanlon101 8 ай бұрын
Was Stark willing to have a dealer do this repair work for you, or do they expect you to do it?
@Icatchbigfish-b6l
@Icatchbigfish-b6l Жыл бұрын
Stark is not going to be able to compete with gas bike reliability. My KTM 300 has 260 hrs original engine with ZERO problems.
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
You obviously haven’t Alta’s are still going strong and Varg is much better
@GaragevanDeursen
@GaragevanDeursen Жыл бұрын
Got My Stark first ride batterij 100% to 5% in 54 minutes trail riding, think its a very bad range. Second ride bike does the same as yours no throttle think I need A new power train also
@TheDirtyBirchTrails
@TheDirtyBirchTrails Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I wish electric bikes had selectable modes where you could choose between 2 stroke power pulses and 4 stroke power pulses. The reason I would like to see this is for proper traction in a given situation. Let's say a long slippery hill climb where a 4 stroke power delivery might give you better traction, you would choose it. Or in a hard enduro situation where a slow climb of slippery rock and root trail might be better suited to a mild low end 2 stroke torque situation would be selected. I think if we ever get there, that would be the ultimate electric bike !
@yoda68zac11
@yoda68zac11 Жыл бұрын
I've heard, because it's possible for the computer to adjust traction control hundreds of times more often than ICE engines, options for traction control are greatly improved. Interesting point though. The app on my phone for the sur ron controller is pretty comprehensive. I imagine these are even better
@powchainsamaniego6744
@powchainsamaniego6744 Жыл бұрын
They handle very great electric motorcycle and ebike company should help us out alot more
@bminshew1
@bminshew1 Жыл бұрын
So is the Stark Varg your new favorite ride?
@justinmcdonell617
@justinmcdonell617 Жыл бұрын
How do I take the damn seat off
@SerifRider
@SerifRider Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@francisbarton4052
@francisbarton4052 Жыл бұрын
Nobody's perfect, but my cash. I want an enduro. Love my 701 Husky, but lighter weight would be user friendly
@marcelovargas7026
@marcelovargas7026 Жыл бұрын
I'm understand your point of view but I'm really disappointed with this because think how many bikes can come with that same issue 😢... Maybe this can put the brand in problem in the future...
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv Жыл бұрын
It's a new product. KTM Suron, every manufacturer had itt's share of problems but they would not give you the same warranty and service. You're overeating for nothing.
@Skwiizgaar
@Skwiizgaar Жыл бұрын
Stark Varg = Strong Wolf in swedish 👍
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 Жыл бұрын
I want one so bad! I love this thing, cant get enough! Its so darn impressive... and its from my home country to boot! :D I cant even afford the tires on it tho! rofl
@bearbeau13
@bearbeau13 Жыл бұрын
And were all blown away that they honored their warranty and had actual customer service?? Man what's it coming too? They should have sent you a brand new bike so you didn't have to do any labor.
@zaarkeru3391
@zaarkeru3391 Жыл бұрын
Ktm, yamaha oe another other would have either ignored it or would have forced him to qait weeks to months for a dealer to fix it.
@dcmotive
@dcmotive Жыл бұрын
All the warranty money goes to the CEO these days. No one hardly honors their warranty unless the threat of legal action is present. CEO relative pay was 20-to-1 in 1965 in the US, but had risen to 376-to-1 by 2000. Thats why I try to as much as possible engage small businesses who are dependent upon good customer service.
@polska905
@polska905 Жыл бұрын
​@@zaarkeru3391that's total bullshit you are talking there, 100% bullshit.
@gophop
@gophop Жыл бұрын
Sounds like they weren't sure about the issue since they've just swapped the whole powertrain.
@happylandcampground4388
@happylandcampground4388 Жыл бұрын
What would the alternative be? They can't assume that every customer is an electrical engineer capable of fixing these things using their instructions. If you bought a new ICE bike and the motor quit I'm pretty sure they would do the same, no?
@just_one_opinion
@just_one_opinion Жыл бұрын
AND YOU HAD TO DO LABOR YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN DIME?! WARRANTY WORK DONE BY YOURSELF??????
@zaarkeru3391
@zaarkeru3391 Жыл бұрын
I'll rather do ot rather than waiting on a shop... MX is about tinkering after all
@polska905
@polska905 Жыл бұрын
​@@zaarkeru3391lmfao! That's ridiculous, it's okay to have a negative opinion here. What is the god damn point of a warranty? Mx is about riding, not tinkering with electronics...
@zaarkeru3391
@zaarkeru3391 Жыл бұрын
@@polska905 How was my comment damning? He had the option of doing it himself, with continuing warranty instead of taking the MX to a shop so they could do it... He didnt loose time. Half of the comments about the Varg is about it being soulless and without a ICE, too easy.
@polska905
@polska905 Жыл бұрын
@@zaarkeru3391 I never once said it was soulless, you are just repeating nonsense comments you read online, never actually rode a motorcycle before... Lol "He didn't lose time" Are you retarded? So by your logic he gained time by disassembling and reassembling half a bike?
@polska905
@polska905 Жыл бұрын
@@zaarkeru3391 how was my comment damning.... Lmfao! Gotta be a bot or just a braindead sheep... Lol
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 Жыл бұрын
It’s unfortunate that Stark released a unfinished product to placate their investors instead of the engineers…. A reasonably prudent person would believe that it’s not Stark’s “excellent” customer service but at this point it’s more akin to corporate damage control…
@Speedytrip
@Speedytrip Жыл бұрын
A lot of big companies could learn from this. Unfortunately it seems the bigger the company gets, the less they care, and the more people are involved in every small decision. With startups, they usually have a small team of people wearing multiple hats.
@barren76
@barren76 Жыл бұрын
Det är ett svenskt företag därför svenskar bråkar ej om pengar eller annat de bryr sig mer om kunderna 👌
@jimic111154
@jimic111154 Жыл бұрын
Bro, where do you live? Absolutely gorgeous riding!
@tacticooldennis
@tacticooldennis Жыл бұрын
I think SirRonster broke it :P
@01.k.p
@01.k.p Жыл бұрын
Looks like a phase overcurrent error honestly
@JoshStreetDesign
@JoshStreetDesign Жыл бұрын
Yeah my home built bike does this. It's so frustrating.
@ChristianPerez-xd8zq
@ChristianPerez-xd8zq 2 ай бұрын
God… how much is that motor even cost??
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Жыл бұрын
Get a good look. In 5 years, it will look like that permanently, as a paperweight.
@allancunningham6019
@allancunningham6019 Жыл бұрын
Nothing hard about a range test ....only in your head it's hard get on with it...100%to0% in a circuit job done.
@bikerboybrent
@bikerboybrent Жыл бұрын
🔥
@alladar1023
@alladar1023 Жыл бұрын
You just buy a new bike in one day and destroy the motor??!! Bro the company dumped
@musicbox4022
@musicbox4022 Жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 13k+ on a bike you have to rebuild yourself.. I’d be livid
@eastwood111
@eastwood111 Жыл бұрын
It’s the risk you take when you buy first generation of anything
@tylermckinnon8326
@tylermckinnon8326 Жыл бұрын
Electrics are not hard to tear down.
@josh15486
@josh15486 Жыл бұрын
He's an early adopter. We are waiting for them to get the kinks worked out for the rest of us.
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
It’s happened to all kinds of people on 23 KTMs with bad cylinders
@lisaashton2845
@lisaashton2845 Жыл бұрын
Tesla had all kinds of issues when they first introduced their cars. Ford I’d having all kinds of issues with their first model of the Maverick. Like you said, it’s a brand new company and a brand new product. Folks need to understand that when they buy the bike and temper their expectations accordingly.
@jonmeray713
@jonmeray713 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nathaliearthur6162
@nathaliearthur6162 Жыл бұрын
'Promo sm' 💦
@pjb4653
@pjb4653 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my Kawi , good on the transparency though . To bad we all believe fossil fuels are going to be a thing of the past . Thank the government for that .
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
Nobody is advertising the Varg for that. It’s a growth opportunity for the sport not a replacement. It’s not the Government’s fault the bike isn’t even made in the US LOL.
@eBoard3R
@eBoard3R Жыл бұрын
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