Puzzles and Survival: Farm accounts, secondary accounts

Warning! This video may disappoint many of you! I probably shouldn't say that but I want to be upfront and honest with you. I do not encourage anyone to violate a games terms of service (TOS) or fair play policies. That being said this video talks about how to open a secondary account and the potential purposes of secondary accounts in some cases known as farm accounts. However this is NOT a how to guide for creating a farm account within your own state. To the best of my knowledge Puzzles & Survival allows a user to create as many accounts as they want but the accounts are supposed to be in separate states. Keep that in mind if you decide to create a secondary account. If you violate 37games, Puzzles & Survivals Terms Of Service (TOS) or fair play policies you do so at your own risk! Hope the video helps answer your questions! As always thanx for watching!

[@maksvuka6013]

As usually very informative and to the point .Thanks

[@ValenceRing]

Thank you! Not sure if it's what everyone wanted to see or hear but it is what it is lol.

[@pointofconsciousness5227]

Should i save up for x10 spin on events such as joy?

[@ValenceRing]

@@pointofconsciousness5227 good question. If you dont want to spend any money for the coins and arent getting lucky then yes I would recommend saving them. At 100% you are guaranteed the epic hero cards so it's worth it. If you have the patience for that kind of thing. Lol

[@kathrynsklar2168]

Thanks, this was really helpful to me in thinking through whether to add another account

[@mainstreamdecoy]

You can immigrate states at hq 15. I have 2 in the same state on the same account.

[@ValenceRing]

Thanx for the info!

[@danielbest8733]

First I want to say that I really enjoy your videos and they have been absolutely essential to my growth as a player. I have three heroes in the same state in two alliances currently. I wanted to comment on your reading of the terms of service. The game makers do ban players from creating a hero in an already occupied state and you are warned that you can't do this. However, I don't see anywhere in the terms of service that you can't immigrate a hero into a state with another hero. The game clearly lets you do this and there is no warning when you do letting you know that you can't do that or it's against the terms of service. I believe that once a character is created and has an HQ15 that it is allowed to move anywhere it wants. If they didn't want this, I'm sure that they would prohibit it. I think the word "Create" here can have a different meaning than your read, especially legally. Just my two cents.

[@ValenceRing]

I agree! I think the game designers are happy to have a player playing multiple accounts. My only concern was when creating (like you said the wording is 'create") a secondary account that it cannot be created in the same state. I just want to make sure people are aware of the terms of service and make sure that their play and decisions related to gameplay adhere to those rules and any violation of them is at their own discretion/risk. I also do firmly believe the time investment in multiple accounts strictly for "farming" may outweigh the benefits. That of course is my opinion! Thanx so much for your input and feedback! It is much appreciated!

[@AshDaeon]

So you have two characters in the same alliance? I came here to have that specific question answered. I am moving one of my accts to another state soon but don’t want to lose rss.

[@ValenceRing]

I dont have multiple accounts in the same alliance. Others may.

[@aveleedeleon7694]

@@AshDaeon There is somebody in my alliance that has two accounts (well, at least sanctuaries) but I don’t know how he went about doing it. He’s been there for months and nothing has happened to him “legally” but I’ll see if I can get more information from him about how he did this and come back and let you know. Now I’m curious.

[@raymondgaither5277]

@@aveleedeleon7694 I have 4 accts in the same state. As of right now there is no problems since I did it legally. Here's how: I stated a 2nd acct in a new state. When that acct reaches lvl 15 it can legally immigrate to any "OPEN" state. To see what states are open go to the world map in you sanctuary, then click on thr globe. That opens up the state listing. You can expand the individual blocks to find your current state and then click on it. That will let you know all the requirements you need to meet to immigrate to that state. Immigration tickets cost 500k alliance coins or you can buy 1 for $4.99 in the game store. So think carefully before starting a new acct it you plan on moving it to your current state. Rss must be within sanctuary warehouse limits. Any alliance coins you have will move with you. You will lose Joy Coins though. Once you immigrate to your current state then you have to request an invite to join the alliance so make sure you have the room and the leadership knows of your intentions beforehand. Your lvl 15 farm might keep a lvl 25 acct with higher might from joining which could hurt your alliance ranking. Last to be a successful farm you can't treat it like your main. I don't invest much time on my farms except to upgrade buildings to increase rss production. It has only about 20k troops who only gather. Check sanctuary overview to see how your acct is doing,. You want the output to be more than upkeep. My best farm has an upkeep of 24k an hr, but rss output is 51k an hour, so half my food is saved to support my main and each other. Some players say farms are too much work and if you manage game play and rss carefully you don't need one, but the higher your acct the more you need. My next upgrade is 112 mil in food and that's with 5-star build gear. The other rss are just as large in comparison. And last depending on state rules you may need to keep a shield up around the clock. It really hurts when you save 40 mil in food and wood, 15 mil steel and 10mil gas just to log in the night to find out you've been attacked and everything is gone.

[@jengleason6435]

Thanks for all the great videos!! I was as wondering if it all possible to regain an unlinked account if you have all the info?

[@MolnarG007]

The game Changed, you CAN migrate to same state, just did with my old HQ18. Note each state has a minimum, it was HQ15 for my state and needs to be open state. I think game sets min HQ lvl and governor can lower it. High HQ needs 2 ticket, not sure is per 20HQ or sg. New account can migrate free for a week or so, if not his free migrate is taken away. You can buy ticket for money or 200k Alliance coin if you Alliance high enough and puts it in Alliance Shop to buy.

[@ValenceRing]

Thanx for the info! The game is constantly updating and improving so some of my info will get outdated as the game developers adapt their game to the needs of its players! I appreciate the updated info!

[@bkprincessfeaturingbigdadd248]

Yeah we all want 2nd accounts for our son's, or future son's I might have

[@ValenceRing]

Lol.

[@krissypyne3783]

I know this is an older video but I currently have two farm accounts in the state where I have my main account, and some of my alliance members have between three to five accounts in total, having the capacity to level up much quicker than those in state who don't have farm accounts for us it's become the norm, we openly incourage our members when they join to create an extra account, don't know if this information is helpful just figured I'd mention it, also thanks for the video there always great.

[@R0N1N_78]

How can i use multiple accounts on one mobile phone? It looks like it is not possible to register the game to an email address... Only fb and Google.

[@jamesrandal5442]

Question....my understanding is you must CREATE alts in different state? I have no knowledge about immigration to sane state as first alt?

[@ValenceRing]

You do not have to create an alt ever. Not for immigration or any other purpose. It's an option if you want to learn about a new state.

[@daveliffick4655]

Thanks for these videos. I know they take time and as a newer player, the explanations are very helpful. I am having trouble binding my account. I do not have Facebook or Twitter, so google play is my only option. The game gives me an error stating that the local user has not been authenticated. I have reached out to CS and they haven’t been much help. Any ideas? Thanks

[@ValenceRing]

The only thing I can think of is to go into google play and make sure that you have everything verified for google play such as payment options email address etc. You should be able to bind to any gmail account. I would just make sure that the gmail account has been "verified' as a real person before attempting it. Hope this helps!

[@emilybridwell7952]

New to your channel, but really enjoying the content. I was just curious if you know of anyway to remove a second character account from your drop down “ Manage Char” list , beginners mistake of creating a secondary account through my existing, i would really just like to get rid of the second character in a different state all together. I just can’t seem to find a way to do it. If you have any info about how i could go about doing that I’d really appreciate it. Great content, will be back 🤘🏼

[@ValenceRing]

That isn't something I have had to do nor encountered yet, but I'll see if anyone I know has, or if I can figure it out and let you know if I do! Thanx for watching, hope the videos help!

[@emilybridwell7952]

@@ValenceRing Thank you so much 😊

[@LoveTaps.]

Actually if u contact customer service they will ask some details and if it's correct they will do it for u in 7-14 days ....

[@liverpooljft9623]

Do you guys focus on one troop type in farm account or upgrade gear evenly for ruins battles?

[@ValenceRing]

I don't have a farm account but I'd imagine there isn't much need to specialize in only 1 troop type.

[@williamgervin6589]

I love your teachings fellow PNS player, my constructive criticism is you repeat yourself a lot, I think you could teach us better and provide more information if things weren't said two or three sometimes four times. I love the teaching and thank you

[@ValenceRing]

Understood. Thanx.

[@user-du5qb6cl1f]

You can start a farm acc in the same state. You just have to do it on another device like a PC and not use the same email or other account that you have attached to your first account.

[@jackrushtan47]

My question is how it it possible to "choose" a state? it just throws you into a random one do you keep starting a new character until it throws you into the same state as your primary account this video is unclear on this

[@1Sbuys]

would playing on a another device and joining same allaince or making a farm account on another device be wrong

[@ValenceRing]

Define wrong.. so the devs make it so that a second account under the same account cannot be created in the same state but after youve leveled up past 15 you can immigrate to the same state. While my advice is to avoid "farm" accounts as they can be misconstrued as unfair play and may in some cases violate the games TOS, I also don't think the devs are concerned with an extra account that is not abusing the system. I have heard of accounts being banned that had multiple accounts (but talking like 4 or 5 farm accounts.) So if you decide to do so, there may be some risk involved. Proceed with caution is all I can really say. Or if you want to do it strictly by the book you could always ask customer service in advance and let them know you want to have multiple accounts under the same roof and see what they say.

[@1Sbuys]

@@ValenceRing I just want one to give a little boost

[@ValenceRing]

Like I said there may be some risk involved but I dont think the devs are too worried about a second account. 10 is definitely a problem lol

[@kingofzed7558]

Quite agree with what you are saying here, as much as I have thought about creating a farm account I don't want to be spending even more time on the game than I already do. I would recommend getting into a good Alliance before thinking about a 2nd account. A strong Alliance will help you grow as it is in the best interest of the Alliance to have strong daily players. If your Alliance aren't helping then they are likely the problem, or you are not ready for that upgrade yet...check out ValnceRings video on that very topic (kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6axmahod6yNgcU&t). Don't join an Alliance and start asking for Resources straight away, that will more likely get you kicked out! I would say being in a strong helpful Alliance is more beneficial than creating a 2nd account, certainly less time consuming. I actually looked through the TOS and it bored me stupid so I just emailed them to find out where they stand on farm accounts, will let you know what they say.

[@ValenceRing]

As always thanx for the feedback!

[@kingofzed7558]

I heard back from 37Games (Puzzzles and Survival developer) and they said that they allow a player to have 2 accounts in the same state which pretty means farming is OK, not sure what that means for the people I know who have 4+ accounts in the state, but you can at least have two without getting banned.

[@ValenceRing]

@@kingofzed7558 thanx for the info! Good to know. And thanx for investigating and contacting CS.

[@wartickravels]

Does anyone know, if you can have 2 accounts with FB login in the same State?

[@LoveTaps.]

Actually we can bring the other account from other State to main state with flight ticket I did it and I have 1 account 2 charecter in 1 state 😎

[@ValenceRing]

I have heard this before.

[@brianmatthews2835]

I have done it to I have 2 accounts in one state

[@gospiltimewithtiny]

mighty battles i had over 30 accounts .. empires and puzzles i had six /// i have 5 farms in this game but seriously you canot get anywhere in this game without farm accounts with low steal and low gas rss ...

[@ValenceRing]

Its not easy but it can be done lol

[@mine69]

8 mins in still droning on aand on about violating terms of service...Why not terms of service title for video

[@ValenceRing]

Right. I'll consider it next time. Thanx for the feedback.

[@janakipatel6851]

Has someone with multiple accounts figured out how to play 2 separate accounts on two separate devices?

[@saan8]

My friend is about to quit and she wants to give me her account. Is that possible?

[@ValenceRing]

To the best of my knowledge giving or selling accounts is a violation of the terms of service so I would recommend against it. But I havent ran into that situation yet so I might not be the best person to ask.

[@saan8]

@@ValenceRing yeah, other games are a lot easier since you can just log on and off. so im also wondering if you get a new phone and download this game again, since there are no long ins, i wonder how that works also. i have an iphone 7 so its about that time hahaha

[@ValenceRing]

@@saan8 lol I am sure anything is possible. Sorry I dont know more about it!

[@beepbeepbeep678]

Idk about fair play as their intentions. Judging by how scarce resources are, their intentions seem predatory if anything.

[@yeshuas_tochter_]

How can i delete a account when i use More than one ?

[@ValenceRing]

Only way to delete an account is by going through customer service.

[@nhatho1723]

Do you always lose 30% resources when looting a farm account?

[@ValenceRing]

From my understanding yes. All attacks have a 30% tax on rss gained from the battle

[@lanettebrunner4184]

You should be a politician 😂

[@jmorales5075]

How can you eliminate acount?

[@ValenceRing]

I don't know how to permanently delete an account. That is something you would have to contact customer service for.

[@eldar8524]

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