Lockheed F-104 INSANE LOOP 10,000 FEET!

[@quackgarage9551]

Please never stop posting. Awesome content with a unique plane.

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Trying!! lol not very easy, but more are coming in the next days already!!

[@kaas12]

@@PiercarloCiacchi Really enjoying these videos!

[@peterrosendahl1019]

I fell in love with this fast bird as a yong Luftwaffe Soldier in 1977. Im not a military fan. It’s the technics, the power to weight ratio. Now as an elder man I can do marvellous things with this plane in FS2020. I love it. Thanks for the detailled loop instructions!

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

Those where the days Peter. In every way.

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Anytime, it is an aircraft almost every pilot fell in love with!

[@AcroAirwolf]

@@PiercarloCiacchi Sure, I´ll never will have the chance to fly in a real one, but I have built 4 RC models. The last one in 1:10 had his maiden 2 months ago.

[@ihasmdb389]

Absolutely amazing, thank you for showing us

[@mcahill135]

Did the same thing in the T-38A! 10,000’ loops. Yippee! The most fun you could have with your pants on. Miss those days…… Gotta admit it, the F-104 would be an awesome ride.

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Lover the T38!! ...specially flying it as a young kid in the early 20s....! Great times, i flew it in Sheppard AFB....

[@jamesmurray3948]

I experimented with tighter loops for my future airshow routine in the T-38. Burner and 250KIAS, tickle all the way with flaps 45 over the top. I think I got them between 3000' and 2500'. Long time ago. Needless to say, the airshow plan did not work out.

[@user-xz9hu4rd2v]

Yes, the loop in the T-38 was 5G pull at 500kts, 200kts inverted above, 10,000 used. It was more a pear-shaped path than a circle.

[@avnut7]

Wow! You should offer 60 Minutes a ride and a little window into what you do out there! Fantastico!

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

IT IS IN PROGRESS!! Full R&D flight to Mach 2.0..... give me a couple of weeks!

[@avnut7]

@@PiercarloCiacchi That is outstanding! We'll be looking forward to that for sure!!

[@FastFatman]

Your in flight videos leave me straining forward in my chair, taking in every nuance. I've seen an entire flight using the thumb and two fingers on the stick and the palm of the left hand resting on top of the stick for landings. Amazing. I always watch for stick movement and watch the aircraft's response. You guys seem to have tamed and mastered the F-104! Much respect!

[@lantose]

Thanks for the ride! (No music and only the real sounds👍)

[@Carlobubbio-nh8cz]

PIERCARLO SEI UN GRANDE! La conoscenza del 104 è assolutamente superlativa! COMPLIMENTI PER QUELLO CHE FAI E SIANE ORGOGLIOSO. Con Stima Bubbio Carlo socio aggregato Ass. Arma Aeronautica Sez. Torino

[@ollyk22]

Fantastic to see these birds still flying, and I hope for many more years to come! Are you guys helping the Norweigens out? So desperate to see a 104 fly, and they did so well, just to be let down by the seat!

[@lucabittau7734]

Che meraviglia...Complimenti! Io spero che voi riusciate a tenere vive queste meravigliose macchine per tanti, tanti anni ancora! Anche se (ma credo lo abbiano detto tantissimi altri italiani) non nego che mi piacerebbe molto poterle ammirare ancora qui in Italia.

[@nicknick7052]

ingresso a 550kts, flaps a 400kts, top a 120kts min...valori che mai assocerei ad un loop. Gran bel video.

[@321-Gone]

Favorite plane. Thanks for sharing

[@diego646464]

This aircraft is crazy!!!

[@AugustusTitus]

Amazing. Thank you for sharing. Glad that TFR went to good use! :D

[@PaddyPatrone]

Man these views are truly one of a kind. Love the 104 and all your videos. More please 🙃

[@pedrobatista]

Attitude Indicator went wild from the top of the looping and remained!

[@maurizioc.3121]

E all improvviso ecco un nuovo video! Oddio mio quanto godiiiiiii !!!!¡!!!! Darei la metà dei miei giorni. Che spettacolo

[@oldfriend327]

Why no HUD unit? You guys really need one of those to keep the eyes on the outside. Beautiful video and especially with no music too, thank you for that.

[@maurobuzzi2967]

Spectacular 😮😮😮

[@shmod97]

So cool to see these planes still flying, I grew up in Grosseto and we know them well! Saluti!

[@eivinstens6091]

Another awesome video. Thank you. The 104 is my favorite fighter jet. Proud member of 'The Friends Of The Starfighter' group, who operate an old norwegian CF-104D.

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

Piercarlo is the luckiest guy alive ! What a dreamjob !

[@DNModels]

Phenomenal! Thank you so so much!

[@solidlift]

Absolutely beautiful. Insanely envious! Long live the '104!

[@rx7sp]

just found this channel, already loving it

[@massimilianomoretti1067]

interesting video ! Greetings from Italy ! Ciao

[@bernardanderson3758]

Bring it !!! Love to see more of the Lockheed F-104

[@marka8947]

Thanks Kelly.

[@SimonWallwork]

That looks like FUN!

[@Thunder_6278]

Carlo, nice to know the 'pin' can still maneuver like it did 60 years ago. Gratze.

[@kristyskirt9015]

BRAVO Pier; WoW looping The F 104. I had a feeling it could be done. The 104 is very capable of doing it, Yet Takes a TOP notch Pilot to do a LOOP. That was soo smooth no, stick shaker going off no yellow light "SLOW". What F 104 in the stable did you use for the loop maneuver ?Thank you, and post more of what the F 104 CAN DO .

[@facethefaceandmore44]

Love hearing the rumble once it enters the loop

[@WhereNerdyisCool]

Where's my checkbook? I want one. Oh, and some flying lessons to upgrade from my C172 flying time LOL Love these videos. One of my favorite jets

[@Ricardo.Sigwalt]

Awesome content !!!

[@HIGGI6]

Awsome to get this cool cockpit footage of your F-104 flights. Thank you for very much for sharing this :-)

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

I can't thank you enough !

[@skywarddreamschannel]

Very good job💪

[@paolozampieri2691]

This guy has THE BEST job in the known universe!

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

AHahahahahah lol....thank you...I love it, but it is also very hard at times....sometimes it takes months to prepare a flight or a mission....for just one flight it is a lot of gnd ops!

[@paolozampieri2691]

@@PiercarloCiacchi Friulani e veneti non sanno cosa sia la fatica! 🤣

[@bonanzaguy1]

I never would have thought this was possible without falling out of the sky since 104 may be the least maneuverable fighter ever. Amazing, love it.

[@syl19281]

Bad ass aircraft , really cool 😲👍👍👍

[@craigwall9536]

Never thought I'd get to see a Starfighter loop!

[@AviTheWolf]

I know ill never get anywhere close to achieving something like this in life, but I can dream.

[@Warbird-Aviation]

Great view!!!!

[@paolobottinelli7679]

Spettacolare Carlo 💯🙏🏼

[@andreadambrosio9843]

Fantastico! 😍

[@mustangsandwich]

Wow! I love this! What fun

[@kultursender6507]

Amazing aircraft"

[@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke]

BRAVO

[@RubyS.1]

Flying history. Amazing

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

Oh wow. Let’s roll.

[@AlbertoDallaMutta-q8h]

Fantastico 😎

[@grassorob]

Semplicemente fantastico!!!!! 🤪

[@dunbar555]

Bellissimo!

[@silvacore]

Fantastico!

[@cw5865]

The amount of work to do that is insane in respect to who figured that one out...

[@mikekemik]

Grande Piercarlo!!!

[@angelocrivelli3743]

Grande Piercarlo 👍

[@robert-wr6md]

Lovely.

[@alessandrofucito-yo7ot]

Great!

[@gabry975]

Che spettacolo!!!!

[@Rafterman18]

Military pilots in the 1960's: "This aircraft is a widow-maker!" Civilian pilots current-day: "lol, old plane fly fast!"

[@ChipMIK]

That was in Germany due to an insane jump from basic training into these. Most other countries had nowhere near the accident rate they had.

[@SUP_Bigans]

​@@ChipMIK not properly, in Italy, less losses/over flight hours, but anyway 70 deaths is a heavy stat.

[@ChipMIK]

@@SUP_Bigans So it was too on many other fast movers back then

[@SUP_Bigans]

@ChipMIK IMHO it was due to the fact they wanted to use f 104 as tactical nuke striker, flying very low altitude to avoid radar track. But over sea was "easier" than among mountains. In fact many died for collisions against the ground.

[@SUP_Bigans]

0:51 😮 flaps t/o during a looping! I wish to learn what is the effect on the flight envelope. Grazie e ciao

[@lordfabri]

spettacolo complimenti

[@lunatico01111979]

Saluti da Codroipo! Mandi Comandante 💪

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

A PLEN TUBO

[@lunatico01111979]

@@PiercarloCiacchi SIMPRI! 💪😉

[@justingaskins3440]

My dad who is a spotter aviation fan has been tryna get pics of these bad boys! Should fly by melbourne airport 😂

[@2whl4re]

Altimeter being used as a fan for cockpit cooling!

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Ahahaahah i love this one.....

[@PaddyPatrone]

Could you make a video showing all the F-104`s in your inventory? Would be interesting to see what airframes you have and maybe what their history is.

[@emotodude]

Lol, flaps up at 350kts

[@fjp3305]

Great!! What's the max indicated airspeed the F-104 would fly?

[@shonuff8257]

Cool af

[@flyingsandrino]

Pensa che il mio "vecchio" amico, collega di papà, il Comandante Guido Fantoni, uno dei primi 15 piloti del G in Italia, quando faceva la presentazione del velivolo su scelta del compianto Gen. S.A. Bertolaso, lo eseguiva al top dei 6000 ma, una volta lo fece a 5000 arrostendo, alla fine della chiusura, la bandiera del Corpo di Guardia di Grosseto. Allora era Serg. pilota….un grande!

[@tomlee7956]

WOW!

[@knightonwarbeck1969]

The first ever in cockpit video of an F-104 performing a loop. Piercarlo, I recall reading the loop can be performed at 550 knots in military power or 450 knots in burner. I assume these number are for a single seat and clean airplane??? In the TF you were in burner?

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Your numbers are correct for a S model...clean or Tip Tanks. The 2 seaters have more lift because of the big canopies, so speed can be lower and the total altitude would be also less....

[@frankyang4114]

awesome! but what is "APC" meaning? please

[@Steu.-rl6ev]

Spettacolo!🤩quale Starfighter è? Il G o l'ASA M?io ho una nostalgia matta dell'F104... scrive uno che 3 anni fa ha preso casa di fianco alla pista di Caselle!

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Questo e' il TF-104GM

[@Steu.-rl6ev]

​​@@PiercarloCiacchigrazie a tutti voi che pilotate e mantenete efficienti questi formidabili F104... well done!👍👋attendo con impazienza altri video!io ora vedo gli eurofighter freschi di fabbrica decollare quasi tutti i giorni per i voli di collaudo,ma non sarà mai la stessa cosa!

[@dogsbd]

Mil thrust through out the maneuver?

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Yes Sir

[@AdrianoEllero]

what is APC meaning?

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

It is part of the Automatic Pitch Control System....it is an index relative to the angle of attack.The higher the index, the higher the angle of attack....where 0 to 1-ish are cruise values....2.5 is equivalent to an angle of attack use in a base turn (maximum)....4.5 would activate the stick shaker...5 would activate the KICKER....to avoid entering a stall.

[@AcroAirwolf]

Great! What are the g-loads you have when you enter the loop and on the exit?

[@sablatnic8030]

4.5G - and 2.5 at the top.

[@AcroAirwolf]

@@sablatnic8030 Thanks, now I saw it, the lettering was outside my window, when I watched it the first time ! So it´s not a loop, it´s an egg ;-)

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

@@AcroAirwolf All loops are eggs...unless some extreme effort is put and specific aerobatic airplane is used. Entry speed is very high, so turning radius is big there....slower speeds at the top, makes a very much smaller turning radius there...hence the egg shape. Load factors are 4.5-5G at the bottom, then decreasing to somewhere 1-ish at the top....then increasing again to 4.5-ish at the exit....

[@AcroAirwolf]

@@PiercarloCiacchi Yes, after beeing an aerobatic glider pilot for 24 years, I know flying a really round loop for the judges on the ground is not so easy, especially when you have to compensate wind from ahead or behind. And as there exists no wind for the plane, you only can watch the aerobatic flights before your own and estimate how to "deform" the loop. As soon as you don´t have 0g on the top it will be an egg.

[@francescodebartolo6842]

Wow

[@Summitspeedfly]

I roughly calculated a max descent rate of about 30,000 feet-per-minute.

[@sanfranciscobay]

At what altitude do you begin the loop?

[@hyrk3812]

Hello ^^,My country has also been flying with F-104G Starfighter for 38 years! If I want to experience flying How much does it cost? to fulfill the dream...

[@tedsaylor6016]

In no direction (or attitude) does the F-104 like to change fast. It just goes fast.

[@Zip104]

Now...to re-fly in the 'sim.

[@Robert-ek3qt]

Una domanda: ma i flap li hai usati per "chiudere" il loop lento?

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

I flap vanno utulizzati per contenere le dimensioni del loop. Possibile farlo senza, ma diventa una manovra ancora piu' grande, con scarse qualita' di manovra in chiusura.

[@Robert-ek3qt]

@@PiercarloCiacchi grazie mille per la risposta seguo sempre con stupore, macchina e manico eccelsi

[@Snarge22]

Nice there's one flyable.

[@Fra_bel]

Un saluto comandante dai ragazzi del 129°AUPC 🤟

[@Andrea-v7j]

Teneteli bene...😅 in Italia sono solo più dei gate guardian o in qualche museo.....ma non ha il fascino del f35

[@Steu.-rl6ev]

Quello dello starfighter è un fascino senza eguali...

[@richardpark3054]

Listen carefully to the noise: you can easily hear the difference between 500-ish knots and 100-ish knots!

[@1986.Mattia]

✈✈💗💗

[@alefia3100]

Bella Socio

[@mattfgln]

I thought it would become uncontrollable at 120kts

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

Not if the load factor is appropriate (not to exceed the critical angle of attack)....the fact that and aircraft "goes out of control" (which also it is a very broad definition) does not depend on speed really....

[@mattfgln]

@@PiercarloCiacchi thanks for the reply Piercarlo, I’ve seen the video about the blown flaps and I thought that at such low speed they would be ineffective causing it do depart for whatever reason (i.e small asymmetry ) . I mean, I’m glad it is always under control .

[@ded1333]

2 mile diameter, even in the vertical. 😂

[@calinutza33]

That’s all. ? 😢

[@ΝικόλαςΠαναγιάρης]

Amazing !!!!! Dream to be on backseat , wish safe 🛬

[@Plydrms]

Did that burn through most of your fuel??..lol

[@PiercarloCiacchi]

....not really....probably 250 pounds.

[@mpetry912]

Golly.

[@zamix3251]

I think that's an APT performance.😂 Vaiiii pieeeer

[@albertomarchesi4314]

Ciacchi calza il 104 come una seconda pelle 🤪 Entusiasmante anche l'interno dell'hangar con tutti gli altri "giocattoli" Ciaooooooo

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

Don’t fly to the stars like that dweep in the Right stuff. Sorry Yeager.