Quinton Reviews 'The End of Time'

Quinton completes a three-year-old promise and finally reviews one of the most infamous Doctor Who stories of all time...
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[@someguyoutthere110]

When you're hittin it from behind and she moans 'I'm the Master' and you are now also the Master.

[@sinsoftheswamp8346]

Welp I'm the seventy eighth like

[@namenameson5689]

@@sinsoftheswamp8346 and I'm the 88th

[@sinsoftheswamp8346]

@@namenameson5689 that's pretty epic ngl

[@Blobularthedestroyer]

@@namenameson5689 89th. Fuck You!

[@Summerman000kesamies]

99 😎

[@theMoporter]

It's funny, because I think the fact that Simm seems so fake is what works for me. It makes him seem absolutely demented, like he feels disconnected from everything else. It's a presence. But I can understand what you mean.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

I literally never saw a worse master than missy and a better master than saxxon.

[@alexanderdiaz4507]

Just wanna say that the BBC did a shit job at portraying the White House Briefing Room. Like a really terrible job.

[@alexanderdiaz4507]

It's nowhere near any windows. Jesus. Do some basic research dudes.

[@matty.r23]

@@alexanderdiaz4507 Is THAT your main criticism of this story?! 😂

[@shadowthenutjob]

I find it funny you call the lightning hands the most overdone scene, and not David Tenant setting up a Timelord Spirit Bomb and fucking T-posing across the room to envelop The Master in a fucking magical hope-fuelled totally not even remotely campy hug.

[@SuzysRedStripes]

Like the stuff with the other time lords doesn't exist?

[@pmaggs]

i need to see this

[@thatbowiefan6276]

@@pmaggs kzbin.info/www/bejne/maathYOVmKh3qJI skip to timestamp 2:34

[@pmaggs]

@@thatbowiefan6276 I must be fucking blind or confused bc I don't see any T-posing across any rooms

[@thatbowiefan6276]

@@pmaggs 3:05 exactly, its not a full t-pose but close enough.

[@tealGalaxy]

I have to disagree completely with the opinion on the Doctor's reluctance to save Wilf. I mean, look at what he's gone through recently. He broke his rule about changing time, only to have the person he saved kill themselves and tarnish literally their entire pre-existing history (going from a hero of space exploration to a blemish that needed redeeming). After that he's given an ominous warning about knocking and his death, leading him to spend days both combating the returned Master and (towards the end) the returned Time Lords while suffering from acute paranoia about his impending death. And then he wins. He handles the threat of the Master and the Time Lords without dying and he's looking at genuine hope that the prophecy he'd been obsessing over was false, only to instantly have that hope dashed when Wilf gets stuck in the machine. It's terrible. It's like surviving a plane crash and then dying later because you didn't realize one of the wounds was infected. You made it through the really dangerous part you had no reason to think that something afterwards would be your undoing. I think his anger at this is perfectly acceptable. The Doctor is a charitable man that works for the greater good, and in the end Ten does help Wilf, he just needed that moment to come to terms with everything before he did. I find Ten as a whole to be a much more immature Doctor, sure, but he's still a good one. Time and time again he's faced with situations and decisions he probably couldn't ever imagine. He's given the right choice and a choice that would make him happy and every time he chooses the right one. Sure he gets petulant about it, but I think that makes his final decisions all the better. Especially in this final choice. We can see that he wants a longer life. Wants to help more people, wants to change the universe more, wants to continue living as he is. He knows it's unfair that he has to kill himself to save one person who's nearing the end of their life. And then he sacrifices himself anyway, because that's who he is. It's that kind of thing that endeared me so much to this iteration of the Doctor.

[@VividSause]

It could've been an interesting payoff to 10's (two-episode long) arc about breaking character and becoming an emo or whatever, but the execution is very poor. He comes of as a whiny bitch rather than as a someone who's about to make a big sacrifice. I mean, if the point of him saving Will was to redeem himself for the final time after going rouge and breaking the rules, what's the point of his rant? His last words to Wilf in that scene (Wilfred, It's my honor), for instance, are tear-jerking.

[@tealGalaxy]

+VividSauce I never said that this was supposed to redeem him. I said that his actions had made him into someone who needed redeeming, these are two very different things. Even if I had been saying that he wanted to redeem himself through this sacrificial action, that wasn't the focus of my comment. I've already given my two cents on the "whiny" complaint, I'm not going to rehash half my comment for you (long story short: his reluctance here comes from a very honest and desperate place. The fact that he can so desperately rail against the idea of dying and then die anyway -- when it is a literal choice -- is a great character moment in my opinion). I'm probably going to mute this thread after posting this reply just because I don't see much coming out of it aside from a lot of repeating myself. EDIT: fixing grammatical/spelling errors

[@amata1673]

He did not mention about the man who knocks 4 times at all. That's the key of the story arc. This showed his shallow critics on the series.

[@bainbonic]

Fully agreed. I won't say this episode was amazing, but the scene with Wilf in the machine was excellently done and makes the whole episode worth it to me. I love everything about how it's done, from the disbelief that he survived to the sudden dread of the three knocks, to the honestly sad realisation that it's this sweet old man who'll be responsible entirely by accident. But for me the part that hits me the most is how after having his complete and utter meltdown all while Wilf is encouraging him to not intervene, as soon as he finishes his rant he unhesitatingly switches places with Wilf. *That* right there is what makes the Doctor for me. Not just the willingness to help people, but the fact that he'll always do the kind thing no matter what, even if he doesn't want to.

[@cadidelythdavage1862]

I was about to type this!

[@ShadlinTolly]

Also, I don't want to go isn't an awful line. It's difficult to really compare ten's regeneration with any others, because he regenerated alone, by himself. 11 had Clara by him, 9 had Rose, etc etc, but Tennant didn't have anyone he had to act strong around. You've got to remember that regeneration completely rewrites your personality; sure, the Doctor will keep living, but it won't be him. He's scared to lose himself; of course he doesn't want to go. And you especially ESPECIALLY can't compare it to 11's regeneration because 11 had hundreds of years to brace himself for it; he knew it was coming and so he had a lot of time to get ready to face it. 10 had it thrown at him when he wasn't ready, i.e. "I could do so much more". You've got to remember in the timeline of the show, 10 had one of the shortest runs as Doctor; of course he wasn't ready to go yet.

[@OverlordMegatron]

If you think about it, 11 had actually been bracing himself for actual death, since he had expended his all his regenerations. He had no way of knowing that he would end up regenerating until he had been granted the new cycle.

[@andrewcleary9952]

Compare and contrast with 12's arc, it's interesting to examine this cyclical nature of accepting and rejecting regeneration.

[@JoshMC2000]

Also Tennent was given a choice do doctor who or let anothe thing he loved die so he choice the other

[@JoshMC2000]

I was also under the impression that was what they were doing with 10. the bigged it up in the adds to be "The Doctors final battle"

[@kimba4962]

8 had determination to change and both War and 12 had closure on their lives with people they care about telling them it's okay to move on. 10 basically had regeneration forced upon him and he was alone with no one to morally support him. Not to mention he is one of the most emotional incarnations, who just sent his people to hell for the second time. Of fucking course he isn't gonna be happy with it. Honestly it's a miracle he didn't burst into tears.

[@MyoticTesseract]

I actually quite love the juxtaposition of "I don't wanna go" and "I will remember when the Doctor was me." Shows his growth as a character I think. Or something.

[@jackthefrog80085]

And then there's: never eat pears

[@Frazamatron]

My key weakness is dem feels, I'm a fool. BUT YOU'RE WRONG THE ENDING IS SO EMOTIONAL HOW DARE YOU!

[@spinningspin6053]

That was quite the chicken eating scene

[@loturzelrestaurant]

I literally never saw a worse master than missy and a better master than saxxon.

[@Xtoff]

Fuck........you've just ruined every movie or show that has eating. Just imagining the actor eating over and over

[@shayZero]

DAS BOOTZ Brad Pitt never seems to mind

[@becprunesky731]

When watching this episode the real value is the ironic quality. With a show like Doctor Who it's best just to roll with whatever they're trying to throw at you and 80% of the time it's complete nonsense. With this mindset I had a great time laughing at this episode but still enjoying the creativity.

[@Spaceblazer]

You've peaked my curiosity as to what all the different Masters were doing. So the Doctor says that people changed in their graves, but since the arch was a medical device, does that mean that there were living Masters trapped underground? If a plane was crashing with no way of stopping it, would the Masters simply accept their fate? How about people who were doing... unusual things? How did the Master clones feel about awakening in awkward situations (You know what I'm talking about and it definitely happened. There's no denying it.) How about newborn babies? As in, literally born seconds earlier. Did they become the Master? What about pregnant people? How did that work? What was it like when they changed back?

[@QuintonReviews]

Jesus these are much better questions than the ones I had

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@QuintonReviews I literally never saw a worse master than missy and a better master than saxxon.

[@clashblaster]

@@loturzelrestaurant What was it that made you feel it was so important to reply to a years-old comment just to say "I have a different subjective opinion to yours"?

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@clashblaster Who, just who, cares about the Age of a comment? Who even looks at the Age before replying?

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@clashblaster And as if youre criticism wasnt nonsensical enough: ON TOP OF THAT; you yourself are answering to my comment which is MANY MONTHS OLD. ...Dude... all jokes aside, think before you write. It does help.

[@kaij2309]

but i loved this Episode, i got the sense that the Doctor was so tortured through so many regenerations he has just had it and snapped and he DOES save him because he knows he has to and he's the only one who can...

[@Tomatobasil-v9y]

KaijYT but they did nothing to set that up its really just a scene where u have to figure it out yourself cuz the writer was to lazy to make that scene reasonable

[@ShadlinTolly]

34:45 You're so wrong here. I've heard so many people complain about this part. Look at it this way: The Doctor has been told he'll die soon and he figured it would be during this whole Timelord stuff, but then after it's over he's shocked he's alive, which is something you even bring up. Then Wilf knocks four times and of course he is very understandably frustrated! It's like he was given hope for just a second and then it's whisked away by Wilf. He's screaming out of frustration, and you conveniently leave out the part where he tells Wilf it's his honor to save him. He's not refusing to save someone at all; he's just frustrated with himself because he knows he's going to do it. He's frustrated because of the circumstances, and the things that he's yelling are his logical thoughts trying to justify some way to not die while he knows he's going to save Wilf anyways. It's one of my favorite scenes.

[@scheddoc]

exactly

[@카즈마-j5n]

i agree with you completely...:D

[@Jarjarvideos]

I agree :) I always thought this scene was the perfect encapsulation of the doctor's character (especially as he evolved throughout the last season) while also challenging it and allowing it to be tested :) really well done honestly

[@wonkeythemonkey]

I wanted to amplify this sentence from +Zackary's comment: "He's not refusing to save someone at all; he's just frustrated with himself because he knows he's going to do it." That sums up the entire scene perfectly. Anyone who has every done a hard thing that was the right thing to do - even though they really didn't want to and nobody was forcing them to do it - can relate to that.

[@samk1146]

So I assume Quinton doesn't like David Tennants Doctor and prefers the "vastly superior" Matt Smiths Doctor meanwhile I'm hear saying "Hey I enjoy every doctor because they all provide something unique and an interesting perspective in their version of Doctor Who" P.S I think he's mad that he's seen this "dozens upon dozens upon dozens of times" and in that case I don't blame him cause I'd hate a t.v movie if I had to see it dozens of times but I think it's a bold statement calling David Tennant a roiding angsty child that was kicked out of his parents house

[@videobeetle8]

Biggest fucking thing I hate about the end of this: The Doctor treating regeneration as a literal death. It's NEVER been treated that way beforehand, regeneration always is treated as him continuing to live. Saying "I don't want to go" implies he's literally being erased. Contrast that to the Fifth doctors death scene, who wasn't upset about the fact he was regenerating, but was worried he WOULDN'T regenerate. Thats when the Doctor is allowed to lament about his life during regeneration. When he's not even sure if he IS going to.

[@videobeetle8]

Hell, most of the times the Doctor regenerates in the classic series, the drama of the scene IN UNIVERSE isn't the fact he's regenerating, but the fact he's almost never sure if he's going to. Third Doctor: Needed a push to actually activate his imprimatur. Fourth Doctor: He knew he was regenerating the moment he saw the In-Between-Doctor-Thing, he didn't throw a hissy fit about it. Fifth Doctor: Was dying of an alien poison unsure of whether or not regeneration would actually work. Sixth Doctor: ... No drama here, he just hit his head. Seventh Doctor: The drama from the movie wasn't even ABOUT his regeneration, but rather the fallout of the circumstances surrounding it. Even the Eighth Doctor explicitly said he wasn't going to die. The Tenth Doctor was the first doctor to treat regeneration as death.

[@kimba4962]

It is a death for this Doctor. 10th just was more emotional than his previous faces (if you want, you can treat this as his post-War PTSD rebound time when he is back at being cheerful doctor but not quite yet). Every single other Doctor (early 12th aside) had control over his emotions and 10th clearly didn't, being trapped between trying to be a dashing superhero and clearly not being able to get past his guilt and Time War ways. He was by far the most human Doctor with all the good and the bad it can give. 11th is more or less the first post-War incarnation to finally get his shit together.

[@leathebot]

Most actors use spit buckets for scenes with food.

[@jimcat68]

Scrolled through the comments to see whether anyone had pointed this out.

[@zardox78]

I loved the part of the conversation in the diner that you chose NOT to highlight. How regeneration is like death. Some other guy saunters off. Why should EVERY fucking version of the Doctor be 100% cool with the complete transformation of his identity? I don't know about you, but that would bother the hell out of me, retained memories or not. I liked that it bothered him for a change. But the notion wasn't exactly unprecedented, ya kno. Peter Troughton didn't want to change either. It wasn't like it was something they just pulled out of their asses. They already established that he was much more attached to this form this time. Also, 11 had over a thousand years to be that version of the Doctor. Matt Smith had the time to grow old as Matt Smith (mostly in one episode, but still....). 10 supposedly had like 6 years. Bit of a discrepancy of circumstances there.

[@QuintonReviews]

Yea, but from an outsider perspective in the real world it was about the same time for both of them. So the distinction in how each went out is still important. I like Russel T Davies "big speech" scenes in moderation, but it often feels like they work against the stories instead of working with them.

[@QuintonReviews]

If I had highlighted it it would only have been to point out that it's still a silly take. Regeneration shouldn't be like death -- it is much more like moving on and become a new person. 'The End of Time' is far too concentrated on how sad it is that Tennant is leaving, and it fails to tell a complete story.

[@QuintonReviews]

That's all just my opinion of course. Thanks for your comment, all contributions are appreciated.

[@zardox78]

Quinton Reviews Eh, I have an issue with the phrase "shouldn't be". It's never really been clearly explained (and stuck to) what a regeneration SHOULD be, so any notions on the topic are completely subjective. Should regeneration be about an old man who feels tired so he collapses and stands up looking like some other guy? Should it be about a weird-ass ghost dude who follows the Doctor around for a day or so, waiting for him to fall from a giant antenna so he can inhabit his body and cross-fade into the next guy? Because that was annoyingly dumb. My favorite Doctor met his regeneration in my least favorite way. Incomprehensibly. "He was the Doctor all the time!" Oh THAT explains it. Sure. IMHO, it SHOULD explore many different possibilities so you're not just watching the same thing over and over again. It should try letting you identify with a character who's always been a bit too untouchable for us humans to relate to. And it did. It tried making 10 a bit more human, and yet unwilling and/or unable to let himself BE a bit more human and showed the problems that stemmed from that. And then it moved on. And the next guy didn't let himself fall in love with a human OR with his own face. So it wasn't like a new direction. Just a detour. But I'll agree the radical shift in EVERYTHING between this one and The 11th Hour (in front of the camera and behind it) was so jarring it doesn't even really seem like it takes place in the same narrative universe. Davies and Moffat put way too much effort into pissing on trees and marking their separate territories. Screw the idea of a smooth transition, I guess.

[@QuintonReviews]

It's simply the Moffat had a different take on the concepts than RTD did -- and to be honest that's a good thing. Doctor Who, as you said, needs to Change. If 'The Eleventh Hour' had been 'The End of Time Part 3' then the show would have been cancelled by now. It's best for the show to feel different whenever there's big shift so new audiences can come aboard -- no one ever complains that 'Rose' is too different from the TV movie or 'Survival,' so how does it make sense to expect different standards during other phases? But there's no problem with noting a difference between takes, and in my eyes 'The Time of the Doctor' is the episode that more properly explores what Regeneration really is like. To me it seems that 'End of Time' is simply too melodramatic about everything, RTD's speeches sound real nice in fan compilations, but they often had nothing to do with the stories they were in, each episode truly would just have a scene dedicated to pumping them out. And the episode doesn't defend his actions in the previous story, so him lingering on how 'not fair' it is that he has to leave just is so hard to sit through.

[@jaredjenkins99]

I can't tell if this review is good or not. On one hand he makes a lot of good points and is able to put this story under a microscope. On the other hand he pretty much only states the negatives of this story as if trying to back up his thesis that "The End of Time sucks" and not trying to give a review on the whole episode for everything it is, not just it's faults. I also think he doesn't back up his opinions well but maybe that's just because I disagree with him.

[@Jayden3649]

People can just think things are OK there's multiple states of review

[@RabidDogma]

I really respect Quinton's analysis, but I can't disagree more about the part with Ten's uncharacteristic outburst when he has to save Wilf. He knows he's going to save him. It's who he is. But this one incarnation just ended up breaking for a moment. He would have normally kept that unsaid (and honestly, never would have thought that), but this is the one time that he ends up blurting this out. I'm not saying that I agree with it. But it's not at all the worst part of the episode. It's just anachronistic with the character, which is (kinda?) the point.

[@RabidDogma]

Quinton (I know he's not going to read this, but whatever fuck you) - that's the POINT between Ten and Eleven. They're different people. Ten had that bit of selfishness. He knew he had to leave, but he was raw and honest about not wanting to leave. Personally, I still prefer Ten over Eleven, even given that Smith benefitted greatly from Moffat as showrunner.

[@djkhalid6014]

@@RabidDogma exactly the tenth doctor saves everyone all the time yet he always seems to lose someone and the cause of his death was due to him saving someone, imagine that

[@bigdog91paper]

He seems to discount that regeneration is no different than death to the current incarnation. If you were going to die and someone was like, oh don't worry your body will just transform into someone else and your entire personality will change with no input from you...idk who would be happy with that if you like yourself already.

[@nuclearsandwiches3064]

I love a good episode of Red Dwarf! Oh wait, this is Doctor Who, this is serious, oh...

[@ascendedisamazing]

To me the way that Doctor reacts when he has to sacrifice his own live in order to save Wilfred's is the most accurate representation of how a human would react if put in the same situation. The Tenth Doctor is supposed to be the most human of them all, so it makes sense for him to react in a way that a human would. Now, the Fifth Doctor was the "most human" Doctor before Tenth and he did sacrifice his live for one of his companions, but hasn't the Tenth done the same? We humans are afraid of dying and yes, Doctor can regenerate but for him it's just like dying - he won't be the same, won't be himself anymore and that's terrifying. I like to think that, while Fifth was representing the more upbeat, good side of the human race Tenth represented the more "accurate" side. But in the end - even though he was scared and knew that he could safe so many lives, go on so many new adventures, be experience living for so much longer - he did save Wilfred at the cost of his own life. That (in my opinion) represented how, whilst scared of death, and struggling to make the right choice anyone has a potential to better themselves, ascend beyond the limits of what their brain tells them to do and do the right thing. This Doctor's sacrifice truly struck me because i can view myself in that situation and i know that i would probably not act the same, that i would not find enough willpower in myself to act so selfishly and yet, despite the odds The Doctor makes what he believes to be the right choice and, in turn sacrifices himself to save just an ordinary human being. These are my thoughts at least, you may not agree with them, but please: Take into consideration the fact that i'm not you and you're not me and, as such our opinions and feelings may vary. I'm not trying to make you think the way i do, rather just tell you my viewpoint.

[@moonkingdomify]

Honestly, Tennant was my favorite doctor so far. With Capaldi being a close second. But yeah, his send off was kind of shit compared to Smith, who, while he wasn't a bad Doctor, he wasn't quite capable of portraying the darker side of the Doctor with the same effect as Tennant was. He should have gone on a bit longer instead of just leaving because the writer was incompetent.

[@baileyhollywood6999]

Probably biased but idk. Matt Smith's handling of the dark stuff is what I love about him so much. My grandpa saw a lot of shit when he was in Vietnam, and he's literally the goofiest person I know. He doesn't talk much about his experience in the war, but when he does, he gets really quiet, and really distant. A lot of what Matt Smith did with the Doctor reminded me of my grandpa.

[@shayZero]

The Red Dwarf music over the missile chase/the doctors entrance was perfect. 👏👏👏

[@jimdaflynn]

I'm terrified because I have the exact same "Seniors making H15tory" shit on right now and seeing you wear it was freaky.

[@androzani]

16:25 "I'm half human on my mother's side."

[@Neku628]

Andrew LaChapelle Puumba: Ugh, what's the other half?

[@alexread6767]

Random Konong Are you a rhombicosidodecahedron? Because OW the edge

[@barbiesswanlake]

I agree that from a writing perspective it seems rather lazy of Davies to constantly remind us of previous seasons and how sad they were (especially Series 2, he does that a lot) but when you look at it in terms of character (in my opinion) at least, it kind of makes sense especially as the End of Time is basically Ten's final goodbye, he's trying to remain the fun loving Doctor we know him as but he's breaking, his Ninth regeneration is showing, you can see he's hardened and Rose was there from the beginning, Martha was his rebound and Donna was the friend he needed, the Doctor ends up having these sad moments (even in some episodes are completely unnecessary) because just like the show can't seem to let go of the past, either can he and I feel like Wilf is kind of a mirror of the Doctor in this special in a certain aspect, an old man whose seen a lot and lost even more and is looking for answers all while still trying to have some fun with his life. Ten can't let go of the past and the reason I said his Ninth Regeneration is showing, is because Nine couldn't let go either, in fact it was Rose that was the one that brought him out of that slump and made him the more compassionate and overall human Doctor we knew Ten as and that's why I think in terms of character, Davies overused sad moments work. Its showing us an insight into Ten's state. I mean he's a time traveler but yet, every time he goes forward, to the future something bad that he typically can't fix happens and he keeps returning to the past because of it, even if he can't go there physically. It's not until he's forced to let go in his final moments of regeneration, with one last look at Rose, that he can finally move forward and let go of the past. Now, I'm probably giving Davies too much credit but from a character perspective they work really well but when it comes to writing and directing it, the execution is sometimes poor and the moments are typically unnecessary but I don't think they should be overlooked because I personally think Davies provides a lot of insight into the mindset of Ten through these moments. But like, I said that's just my silly opinion that probably doesn't make that much sense and I'm giving Davies too much credit, I just feel like they deserve a lot more credit then people give them.

[@atomcage]

I completely agree. I think that having 'sad scenes' doesn't spoil the quality of the episode (or the plot) whatsoever; in fact, in my opinion, it actually strengthens the relationship between characters so the show can have some actual emotional authenticity. When the Doctor is talking to Wilf when they meet in the coffee shop - that is the first time they have seen each other since the end of that season four episode. There is the looming fact that Wilf's grand-daughter, Donna, will never be able to talk to the Doctor again. Donna is literally outside the coffee shop when they are talking - how could have RTD wrote this so they didnt bring this up? I don't think this scene's only purpose is to be emotional bait for the viewers, but rather to try and progress the plot in the most logical way possible. The main difference between Moffat's and RTD's style of writing is that Moffat relies on ideas and plot to drive his episodes, whereas RTD mainly relies on character arcs, character relations and the whole emotional tone of an episode. Every writer has plot holes in their work, but where i think this most affects the episode is with Moffat. Because when your main "skill" of writing plots and making ideas has gone awry (i.e. when Moffat writes a plot hole) the episode turns complete garbage since there was no emotional backbone to begin with (since Moffat's episodes are heavily plot based - the characters often are neglected). I can appreciate Quinton's work he put into this video but I think a lot of his 'criticisms' came from his fixed, predetermined bias against RTD's writing. Yes, this (two-part) episode does have its flaws, but to say that on the whole it is a bad episode is just absurd.

[@DarthRushy]

I don't get the "correct disc" joke. I mean, the last episode ended with the cliffhanger of the Time Lords returning, so it's not a surprise when the next one opens with them.

[@DarthRushy]

Kaagh178 Eh... maybe. Day Of The Doctor doesn't really take itself seriously.

[@nomoreno58]

I believe that the doctor said all the stuff about having to save wilf because it his responsibility to even though he doesn't want to and thats why its "unfair" for him because no-one is there to save him and he is doing this alone. I think its a really strong scene.

[@nailsnailsgoodinbed]

Idk man, having the doctor sacrifice himself without a second thought doesn't have the same stakes as him really not wanting to do the right thing, but doing it anyway. That makes it an actual sacrifice, I can relate.

[@Wokiis]

"Frame by frame in post" I think they're just keying skin tone colors and changing them around. Not the biggest task in the world.

[@zackary2577]

I think you missed a lot here with this one I am surprised. Wilf is directly related to the end of Ten's death and thats why they aren't done. It is reminiscent of how Ten is running away from inevitability just like the time lord victorious characterization. And Russel brings back a lot of past sadness because that is the grief one lives with as they age. I don't think it has to do with insecurity in the show, it's just good writing to not forget the emotional growth and decline of a person as they age.

[@suplerb]

I actually liked the doctors Jedi mind tricks, but the master's super powers are too much

[@Nulono]

33:49 She's clearly in red.

[@nomoreno58]

It is the fucking best finale In mh opinion, i love it

[@nomoreno58]

Why is this highlighted😂😂😂 Its your opinion but opposite XD

[@RealSiera]

Because it's fine if you like it? Just because he hates it, doesn't mean you have to :)

[@BonnieFluff]

Thing is, if they were all clones of the master, would they not be trying to one-up/kill one another 24/7 to get to the top?

[@QuintonReviews]

E X A C T L Y

[@jaredjenkins99]

That is exactly what would happen. Everyone who knows the Master knows that. INCLUDING THE MASTER. In making them all copies of him, I'm sure the first thing he would've changed would be to make his copies obey him no matter what. This isn't talked about in the episode but if you're drawing circumstances to logical conclusions (as you did with your comment) then the Master is almost definitely smart enough to think of this before enacting his plan.

[@balthasargelt5775]

They don't because they are the Master not separate Masters just the exact same Master

[@Vinny0151]

But that's not what the machine does. It just made billions of Masters all with the exact same personality. They'd immediately fuck each over the day they all were created

[@kimba4962]

Why would he kill an army of himself? He loves himself. He can use six billions of himself to drown the universe in blood with Doctor unable to stop him. And the fact that it actually humans do all these things will make him even happier. It's exactly in-character for him. Honestly, I can never understand dislike for the Simm Master (I was shocked to learn it even exists), but now you guys just trying to be petty towards him.

[@Titan13335]

0:00 - Me: "Quinton is an average joe" 0:01 - Me: "Hey what the heck!!"

[@ClubHouseComicsinc]

35:00 How did you misunderstand this scene so poorly

[@slashdoomer]

0:55 "This review has been the vein of my existence." for fuck's sake quinton

[@Qscraps]

Wasn't that a turkey?

[@cjmacphail3626]

YES

[@luketuke02]

shhhhhh

[@Qscraps]

I actually think Th Dr was right to end the Time Lords. He did it because they were going to end time, to end all of creation and everything in it.

[@QuintonReviews]

The Human race are doing more to destroy the planet than anyone else. How would you feel if one human killed every other human?

[@QuintonReviews]

Not saying it's "Right" or "wrong." I'm saying it isn't as black-and-white and all cherry and clean as this story makes it out to be. 'Day of the Doctor' is much better.

[@Qscraps]

Quinton Reviews I agree 100% about Day of the Doctor. That was a great episode. It almost felt like a remake of The End of Time. You have better nods to the past and past characters/storylines. The War Council is done better. UGH I could go on and on comparing the two so I should just stop here. I still fall into the "It was 100% the right thing" for Doctor Feelbad to sacrifice his entire race but I get what you're saying. It is a huge theme in the show and one I love. Is The Doctor making the correct choices? What are the failings of those choices? Does he even notice the fallout from his choices? I am sure you know the scene where people literally destroy entire galaxies to stop (really just slow down) the Cybermen. That is presented as a righteous choice, something necessary. I cannot remember anything in the story about the destruction of a galaxy being morally grey.

[@jamessaintruth8647]

The best real life example of this idea is once again with the Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the US had a plan for the invasion of Japan called operation Olympic with the invasion of Okinawa being the first step as it was to become the staging point for the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands. The US predicted that some 10million people including an estimated 2 million American soldiers (5 times as many as the total American war casualties at the time) would die as the Japanese were expected to fight to the death as they had done so on Iwo Jima and Okinawa. In total around 100-200 thousand people died as a result of the nuclear bombardment (not even the most deadly air raid on Japan in the war as the fire bombing of Tokyo killed slightly more) its a good example of how sometimes a lot of people have to die in order for other people to live.

[@jeckjeck3119]

Quinton Reviews Humans and planet is not big enough to compare to whole of creation being unmade.

[@TarbyRocks]

that "the right disc" gag might be the funniest thing i've seen in years, thank you

[@cierce]

Quinton, pls don't make blanket statements such as 'British people have no idea how American politics works' i know it was satire, but I'm still a whiny baby. Thank you, love Connor x

[@legoinsomniac]

Overall though Quinton, what do you think of Moffat? Personally I have a really hard time watching his shows. He's good at moments, he's an ideas guy. The Day of the Doctor was good, Blink was neat, and as much as I didn't like Matt Smith, by the end I was legitimately sad to see him go. But I just think he's not a good writer, not good enough to be show runner, and CERTAINLY not good enough to be show runner of two different BBC flagships.

[@kamilee4123]

Lego Insomniac I think he did way better with Sherlock than Doctor Who. Sherlock is the kind of show that should have a dense, complex overarching narrative, and while it's fine for Doctor Who to have story arcs, then shouldn't be nearly as complex or take themselves nearly as seriously as Moffats.

[@ofkfdjdjfk7574]

Kami Lee Except they took sherlock too far in seasons 3 and 4 with how of an action movie they are

[@kamilee4123]

Bradley Whitehead Yea I heard about that. I didn't see Series 4 but I heard it wasn't very good, and I have no desire to watch it.

[@KotoCrash]

I think he starts okay and then gets really really lazy. Happened in DW, happened in Sherlock. He also has this annoying habit of deifying the main character. Everyones constantly in awe of them and giving them a long list of "ominous" pseudonyms. We're told somethings really hard to do and then they do it without even trying and thats meant to be impressive? Dont even get me started on how he writes all women as "much strong independent snarky bisexuals"

[@duffman18]

@@KotoCrash how on earth is he an asshole? Is it the 72 hour live stream for charity he just did? Is it the fact he uses scientific sources for all his arguments? Oh man yeah what an asshole for that...

[@anauxiliatrix3484]

Wasn't the second season kind of bad though? Doesn't it have two or three of the worst episodes in the show ("Fear Her", "The Idiot's Lantern", and maybe "Love & Monsters")?

[@kimba4962]

The Idiot's Lantern was mostly mediocre and forgettable, not actively awful. Just a Moffat era story basically. Others two, yeah. Pretty awful. Fear Her is a crappy SJA episode and Love & Monsters is a grandiose failure at complex storytelling. RTD's darkest hour. S2 was kinda eh, not as good as other three, but it had its moments.

[@mintbrownieangelfish-6114]

I actually liked Fear Her. I liked the pacing, character interactions, and the whole 'doctor carrying the Olympic torch to give heat to a tiny alien spaceship' thing is just... so doctor who. Like that kind of rediculousness is what I like doctor who for. It might not be the best episode, but it's a great filler.

[@mautemny3301]

I think the problem with the show is that they took a silly little sci find show from the seventies, turned it into an actual drama, and tried to run with those ridiculous concepts and keep an insanely long continuity. The ideas are always going to have a silly undertone

[@YourFaceisPretty]

Yeah, I don't understand why they lean into the dark tones. I'm cool with characters taking everything seriously, this is their life after all; but it'd be nice if it were framed as "this is a bit of fun" and not "this is the most important story ever told."

[@bablothiccasso5884]

That red dwarf part was hilarious

[@emmychansuper]

I thought that the part when the Master made every human being into a carbon copy of himself was creepy. It's as creepy as The Borg doing in Star Trek First Contact with traveling back in time and making every human being into them. But, each to his own I guess...

[@andrewwest7053]

22:39 we're gonna need a lot of fucking chicken

[@baileyhollywood6999]

Where is that flippin chicken anyway?

[@SlendysWatchingMe]

imho, while the end of time wasn't a great special and I didn't particularly like any of the specials between series four and five, I have no ability to not love the melodrama of the RTD era. It's an opposite to Moffat's era in a fundamental way, which is that in Moffat's era is was hard to care about and feel for the characters past that first series, because the balancing of the stakes were off and frankly there was a weird lack of specificity and continuity between emotional beats. Doctor Who has always and probably will always look cheap and feel cheesy and disrespect its own continuity, and personally I at least prefer to get dem feels out of it rather than be bored. That's my experience, anyway.

[@andrei0554]

Ah watching old quinton reviews, always a pleasure ;)

[@amata1673]

You just didn't like Tennant. That's why you had a negative attitude on the RTD era.

[@Timothan]

Remember when Trump was a basis for cartoon villains, and not the next president of the fucking United States?

[@4TheWinQuinn]

You wont be complaining when the standard of living increases tenfold underneath that 'cartoon' mate.

[@Timothan]

4TheWinQuinn Are you really that stupid?

[@4TheWinQuinn]

TheQuazz Look at his policy for childcare and working mothers, look at his policy's of protecting what little's left of Americas industry, his entire campaign is about spending money on America first. Look at his plans for services and infrastructure, things that benefit everyone. You can disagree all you want, If you look at it completely objectively yes you will see that the standard of living will increase for all Americans.

[@Timothan]

4TheWinQuinn Yeah, because all he needs to do is say those things, and then BOOM, everything's better for everybody! Fucking Obama, why didn't you improve everything about America, you hack!?!

[@4TheWinQuinn]

TheQuazz So you trust a corporate puppet who is backed by all the big banks, media, everything, to follow through on her promises over a man who is funding himself ? Next point please

[@inactive3231]

"I guess it works because they're both-" Hahahaha this was amazing

[@bloodrunsclear]

I think they confused Dr. Who with Superman. Remembrance of destroyed planet. Racial superpowers. Megalomanic hierarchy of warrior scientists being destroyed by their own hubris. Noble of an ancient house (Ka-El/ The Doctor) against a crazed general (Zod/ The Master). Even The Doctor himself seems less like a mortal and more like an invulnerable god. I see what you did there Russel!

[@CmFive]

As a huge fan of Doctor Who, I disagree with almost every point made in this video- that's the best part about Doctor Who. There's so much to love about the show that you can be so wrong about an episode and still be a fan.

[@nicholashadwin5564]

Ya know, this episode has problems, but I still do enjoy it. Tennant is great, I actually like simm (though missy is still better), Murray gold does a great job with the score, and I do like a lot of the emotional moments. I think it was a flawed, but still enjoyable send off to Tennant. But one question. Why does everyone hate Moffat?I think he is great, and I was sad to learn that he was leaving a show runner, but I'm optimistic to see what the next guy does.

[@djkhalid6014]

@Fellinux Yh true his two episode specials like blink and the one with river song are immense but as a season writer RTD is better

[@aalumha]

"Optimistic to see what the next guy does" 😬

[@cadidelythdavage1862]

I think to understand the 'hugeness' of this episode, you needed to be in the UK in 2009 just when he was about to regenerate. You're American and Doctor Who didn't really reach America properly till 2010 when Matt Smith started. And I assume that's when you started watching the show, then went back to watch series 1-4. (I'm British and was around at this time so I'm speaking from experience, along with the stories of many other people I've meet from this time) Doctor Who was HUGE in 2009 in the UK, like EVERYONE was talking about it, it was inescapable. Everyone and their mum loved David Tennant to bits, even non-fans of the show. So the ending of this episode was very grand and very 'David Tennant is leaving'. Not only that, the show was getting almost an entire new crew. Russel T Davies, the show-runner at the time, was leaving, plus a whole other bunch of people who helped bring Doctor Who back in 2005. They did try to make it as grand as possible, by looking at all their achievements over the previous 5 years. It was a huge turning point for the show, which is why the show felt so different in 2010 - it was a whole new cast and crew with new a show-runner. It's how Doctor Who has lived and thrived for almost 60 years, by looking back and loving what they've done in the past but adapting for the future. Also you can't be picky about Rose's teeth, that's just stupid.

[@lastthoughts8545]

"There's a reason why the fourth season had record low ratings despite it's noteriety for quality" This is just factually untrue... Journeys End - 10.57 Million Viewers and the first episode of Doctor Who to be the number one most watched British TV programme of the week it was broadcast Partners In Crime - 9.14 Million viewers Voyage of The Damned - 13.31 Currently the most watched Doctor Who episode of the revived era Also they're not "Flashing back to season 2" in the scene of The Doctor and Wilf in the cafe, Donna was in season 4... So your argument doesn't work - you can't in one breath say the show is flashing back to Donna and a time when the show was more successful, and then in another say that season 4 (the season with Donna which the scene is referencing) had "record low ratings" (Season 2 actually featured the lowest rated episodes of the Russell T Davies era) I normally like your content but this is pretty sloppy I won't lie

[@RawbeardX]

Missy is fun, but the show treats her like she is serious, not camp, thus that Master incarnation fails for being better than the show she is in

[@Mahoneyyay]

Nods to Red Dwarf? Love it. Worst James Bond ever?! Give your head a firm shake sir. *cough* tomorrow never dies, die another day, world is not enough *cough* oh Remington

[@KertaDrake]

This would have been so much better if the Time Lords had been defeated by the Red Dwarf crew accidentally popping in with the time drive and knocking Rassilon back through the portal.

[@Timothan]

After seeing this episode I stopped watching Doctor Who, it convinced me that the modern show was schlock. It took four years for me to start watching again.

[@Obagus00]

I didn't see this episode since it wasn't on Netflix

[@spicymilkshake6600]

TheQuazz I finished this episode really wanting to check out 11's first episode. Then after watching all of 11's episodes I liked him more than 10.

[@denisbrezovsky5271]

MY faith in the series was honestly eroding heavily at the point of this special. But I kinda lasted all the way into the start of the 12th doctor. It was not worth it.

[@denisbrezovsky5271]

Honestly, Moffat is way worse than Davies...

[@Ninjagnome66]

You can tell Moffat ran out of ideas in series 7. Series 5 and 6 were tightly knit like series 3, but then there was random storylines thrown in midway through. I feel bad for Capaldi because he's a fantastic Doctor, but the writing is awful in most of his episodes.

[@aquire1]

The "sad moments" talking about the past are what make Tennant the best era. Everything that happened has meaning. Moffat seemed to wipe everything away as if it didn't happen . You got it backwards mate

[@QuintonReviews]

It's better that way. The "expanded universe" of the RTD era would have lead to the show being cancelled. Imagine if when Rose first saw a Dalek she suddenly spouted out a reference to a Classic Series story that you had never seen for no reason. If everyone on the show was still talking about an event which took place over a decade beforehand, the show would not be on the air. The Moffat era is different, but that's hardly a bad thing. If anything, it's much better.

[@bigdog91paper]

It's quite the ridiculous take to want a show with no overarching plot. Almost every TV show I know of has an ongoing story and references to the past. Even comedies like Brooklyn99. To want a series that never references itself seems like a strange concept. Each episode can still be watched for the individual story contained within said episode, so if you get upset about a segment in which a past episode you didn't watch is referenced then I don't know what to tell you.

[@chronospammer2073]

It's not the vein of my existence. It's the *bane* of my existence.

[@Materminds187]

I just hope that the 2017 Christmas Special has the Doctor actually accept the things that he has done in this incarnation and embrace the future.

[@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63]

Send word to the Daleks immediately. The Time Lords have returned.

[@osiancoleman8447]

What’s ur problem with the past, there expanding on the consciousness of previous plot threads.

[@mattosmith400]

It’s been established in the show since very early on that time lords have super powers. The master shooting electric out his hands was a results of his energy being unstable after resurrection.

[@clairedex]

I dunno if anyone else thinks this, but Simm's master is really like Moriarty from Sherlock...just worse.

[@ferb1131]

Moriarty is like Simm's Master. Simm's Master came first.

[@jayfaraday1176]

I very highly doubt a character from Dr. Who came before a book series that ran from 1886 to 1927.

[@ferb1131]

True, and Simm's Master is nothing like the character from the book series anyway. I think the Master as first portrayed by Roger Delgado was more like Moriarty as portrayed in the books. But I think Dexiant and I were speaking specifically about the portrayal of Moriarty in BBC's Sherlock (who was laughing like a lunatic all the time just like the Master did a lot in this episode), not the character in general, just as we're speaking about Simm's Master, not the Master in all his incarnations. That specific version of Moriarty has only existed since 2010, three years after Simm's Master appeared. He was an annoying portrayal (of Moriarty, that is), because he was clearly mentally unstable, and it was impossible to take him seriously as someone who could actually maintain leadership of a massive crime organization - it was hard to imagine that he could even get himself dressed in the morning.

[@hubrism4861]

I know this is an old video, but... Time Lords had mental powers since almost ever. (almost) From the first Master's apearence he was able to hypnotize, well dominate, some people. The Doctor also had something akin to the mind melding, although I must confess that it escapes me now when he used it. That said... yeah, they pull weird powers as convinience. And the super powers here were silly as hell.

[@bigdog91paper]

He uses it several times. Notably in the episode with James Corden. Also in an episode I forget where he tells the person if they don't want him to see a part of their memory to just picture a locked door and the person reads his mind about him being so alone.

[@MachineWashableKatie]

Came for the review, stayed for the chicken eating scene.

[@TomBerryBW]

you can't just play yakety sax over any scene of the doctor running... well i mean you can it just doesn't make any sense or any valid point

[@bigdog91paper]

No running scenes and no emotional scenes allowed. Didn't you see the sign?

[@tenthdoctor1085]

This is still my favorite story ever

[@thomasbeevor9570]

But you died in it....

[@spicymilkshake6600]

Tenth Doctor Yeah, it was great because at the end you turned into the best Doctor

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

Very poor taste

[@theburgerking746]

Galactic yo yo I love the episode but I acknowledge the flaws it has, especially the pacing issues

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

The many, many, many, many flaws, Wilfred was good everything else sucked

[@nickymo]

If I recall this episode has the Master doing a happy evil dance to the Scissor Sisters, so ya know checkmate.

[@balthasargelt5775]

Why is 10 not wanting to regenerate a bad thing? Regeneration is the death of his own self. It's the same reason why reincarnation sucks because it might technically be you it won't be your consciousness. It'll be a different person in your body.

[@hemerafloyd]

The chicken eating scene reminds me of that one scene in the dark crystal while the skies were dining on gross foods because one of the skies had returned and they were celebrating at their return.. Nobody asked but yeah that's what that scene reminded me of even though it probably wasn't the idea..

[@redultra4324]

I liked Ninth a lot because he always seemed so... heavy. He carried so much shit on him, and it was always clear, in happiness, in pain, in everything. Ten seemed... afraid of everything, but acting confident. And that made him a weaker character, because he seemed to only be in denial of the bad stuff

[@redultra4324]

Nine knew he would die eventually, and seemed quietly okay with it. Ten seemed like he knew he had been a love too long and was avoiding the end

[@RabidDogma]

Excellent use of the Red Dwarf theme.

[@seanmurphy7845]

These episodes, along with Matt Smith’s first one, got me into Doctor Who. So to be honest I’m rather biased. I mean when Tens Death could make me cry without knowing the character outside of this, I had to see more. For anyone interested, my grandmother gave me a pack with the three episodes.

[@doggiemaina11]

I have to say I was and still am very middle of the road. Honestly, you could tell Davies was running out of steam and just kinda used this to throw everything at the wall and walk out. Much like the kid who starts a food fight in the cafeteria on their graduation day. Moffat's writing always rubbed me the wrong way. It felt almost like he just tried too hard, and while you could say the same about Davies, this is just my opinion.

[@FischerFilmStudio]

Holy fuck. Quenton and I graduated the same year.

[@X2Magneto]

I think the most baffling thing about this special is that it completely jettisons a first act (arguably the most important part of a story) and all of the foundation therein, like character establishment, story set up, motivations, etc and trades it all for spectacle. It somehow believes that the Master and Mrs. Saxon trading horrendously written exposition will stand in for the framework of an actual story.

[@waffleless]

The Obama thing made me fucking giggle so hard my gums bled.

[@thenumberoneyoungthug7477]

This.... this review is five minutes shorter than an actual Doctor Who episode.

[@blinkzoz5804]

Omg he is such a Matt Smith fanboy!

[@tsogobauggi8721]

Yeah, he really is.

[@sammykent5752]

@Boring Name But the Doctor isn't human and has never been human and shouldn't ACT human. I don't get how this is praise for Tennant's Doctor. The Doctor isn't supposed to be human.

[@bigdog91paper]

@@sammykent5752 idk, it was nice to be able to relate to him for once. I suppose you like 13ths first series then since she was so aloof and constantly happy about everything. The Doctors are all supposed to have different personalities. 10 showed bits of selfishness and anger through the whole incarnation but somehow it's not okay for a final burst of it at the end of his life. Might I remind you that as far as the current incarnation is concerned regeneration is essentially dying. New body, new face, new personality. Some people are okay with dying and some are not.

[@sammykent5752]

@@bigdog91paper Why 13? And how is any of the other stuff relevant? For starters, my point is that using the "he's more humane" argument as some sort of praise for the 10th Doctor doesn't really fly because the Doctor isn't supposed to be human. If that's your personal preference for why you like him more, then you do you. But I constantly see people using this point as a reason for why 10 is such a benchmark in how the Doctor is characterized, but I'm totally averse to this. Secondly, I'm aware what regeneration is and that each Doctor has a new variation of the same core personality. And yes 10 being somewhat saddened by his impending death is justified, but the way it was portrayed was just WAY over-the-top and WAY too melodramatic for my liking. There are far better and subtler ways of doing this. This was just way too "on the nose" and "in your face". Compare that with 11th's or 12th's regenerations (NOT the regeneration stories, even though IMO 12th's regeneration story is far better than End of Time) which were more subtler and quicker and weren't drawn out unnecessarily. And finally, no, I did not like 13th's first series.

[@bigdog91paper]

@@sammykent5752 Even non-human protagonists still show human traits because it's how we relate to them. Thanos showed struggle, the *good* superman movies showed a literal immortal (mostly) god with human emotions/weakness. We are drawn to characters we can relate to. Each doctor shows some portions of human emotion. You're fine to think it was over the top, I disagree, but the argument is that him being angry is somehow not doctor like is a poor argument. There's nothing saying Time Lords don't feel anger or regret. Again, he's essentially going to die. The person he is will not exist after regenerating. It's not the "same core personality". Where did you get that from? The War Doctor is NOTHING like 11. Or 10, or 12. And 13 isn't like any of them either, at least not yet. You essentially sound like you want the same regeneration story told each time? I mean, that's the argument you're essentially making, but pointing out the similarities between the other doctor's regenerations. The difference this time is he *gets* a choice. Other doctors just die, 9 didn't get a choice, neither did 11. 10 had to choose to die. That's unique and thus the handling of it was unique and took a few minutes longer than the others. Also keep in mind this was still the first new doctor that people had time to grow to love. 9 didn't stay around long enough and his departure from the cast was fairly abrupt and so it was unceremonious. 10 went out with some flair because he had been around for years at that point and people who had just picked up Dr Who with the modern series loved him and viewed him as THE Doctor. It's the same way that a lot of the time whatever Bond you start watching the films with is usually THE Bond to you. I'm a little weird in that I like Craig more than Brosnan even though that's who I started with.

[@vizthex]

That chicken eating scene reminds me of the episode of Smallville where the women becomes a weird-ass hunger monster because kryptonite.

[@Yezpahr]

Took me 6 years to finally watch it. It was in the watch-later list for all that time and now that the end of time is near I thought I better watch it before that happens. 4:42 The inspiration for the jonmas side-plot.

[@liamace1107]

Red Dwarf references on point

[@Horrormaster13]

Isn't The Master basically Doctor Who's Version of The Joker? I mean he/she is basically the antithesis or the other side of the coin of Doctor Who just like The Joker to Batman.

[@UnchainedEruption]

Most of this video is just nit-picking. You do make some good points in the beginning, with regards to the visions of the Master going unexplained and the inconsistency in tone with regard to the silliness, but a lot of the "criticisms" seem needlessly harsh to me. Maybe though that just has to do with differing opinions on John Simm's Master. I loved it, whereas you clearly don't. I think what the End of Time did right was it nailed that feel of an epic conclusion which the very last RTD story should have. It was interesting, it brought back the best of the era (like the Master) and tried to tackle the Time War. I think the regeneration scene is by far the best of the rebooted show, and contrary to what some say I like the whole farewell tour. However, what I absolutely despise about this story--the little holes here and there don't help either--but what is most egregious I feel is the way the character of Rassilon is treated. In the classic series, Rassilon was this highly respected and revered figure of yore who led the Timelords to greatness. In fact he uncovered so much power that the Timelords had to lock away the Eye of Harmony and only the Lord President could reopen it once in possession of 5 different artifacts which were hidden away by various members of the High Council. The Doctor was humbled in the presence of Rassilon. He is the equivalent of America's founding fathers. There is some implication in The Five Doctors that his real life may have been a bit more sinister than history lets on, but he's still for the most part a great man. This episode takes that and completely spins it on his head. Rassilon just becomes another Omega or Morbius-type character which we've already seen plenty of times before. It's both lazy writing and an insult to one of the great figures of classic who. I hate how RTD forever tarnished Rassilon's character.

[@bigdog91paper]

Wasn't all the old tales of him before the Time War though? Tennant even says in this episode that he chooses to remember them as they were and not what the Time War turned them into. Rassilon brought them to greatness and them it was all threatened to extinction by the war with the Daleks.

[@bort2035]

I know this is a small gripe, especially considering it's with a 4 year old video about a 12 year old tv special, but I disagree with your take on the diner scene with Ten and Wilf. You say that when the Doctor says that something keeps bringing them together, that there's no payoff, and that the way you read it was that even the characters are feeling the repetitive nature that the series has taken at this point. On a rewatch, however, I found it to be a nice little bit of foreshadowing. Throughout series 4, we hear that prophecy that says something to the effect of "he will knock four times at the time of your death". Rightfully, we assume it's a reference to the Master and the four drum beats he hears in his head. But after the master dies and the Timelords are defeated, Ten believes he defied the prophecy, rewrote history, only to be met by Wilf knocking four times, signalling his death. So yeah, there wasn't a specific character responsible for bringing Ten and Wilf together, but the payoff is still there, and I think the diner scene foreshadows it quite well. I was never the biggest fan of these episodes either, but I always liked that little payoff.

[@kimba4962]

I hate to defend TEoT because I always disliked a lot of things about it, but I don't agree with most points in this review. Also, hating on Timothy Dalton's Rassilon? Why? What exactly did he do wrong? He was great.

[@oldschool3424]

13: when people need help, I never refuse 10: *throws tantrum when having to save Wilf*

[@bigdog91paper]

And he didn't refuse. He was upset because he knew he was going to swap places and he had just had his overjoy of surviving what he was sure was prophesized as his death crushed by finding out it was this nice old man who knocked 4 times.

[@justanotherrandomcrit8115]

Well... I actually really like the End of Time.

[@Jarjarvideos]

I don't think you understood this episode... Sure it wasn't great, but I'm twelve minutes in and most of your complaints seem a bit misguided, and the comments tell me that doesn't change throughout... I like your other reviews, but I think you missed the mark here.

[@RabidDogma]

How many chickens? Probably a couple. No actor actually swallows that food. Notice all of the cuts. Sims is just tearing apart a perfectly lovely chicken and smearing it on his head.

[@lewisconroy6225]

This episode had the potential to be great, but was weighed down by hundreds of thousands of silly moments

[@angelamccafferrty9487]

I loved the " End of Time " Except for his speech to Wilfred saying " Even if I change it feels like dying" etc if Matt Smith wasn't so good and instantly captured us it could have hurt the new Doctor. Everything else was fantastic. The scenes with the Doctor and Wilf can be heartbreaking. I personally love Simm's master but apparently in shooting the "Doctor falls" he was a lot happier at how he was directed. " Vale Decem" is a Spectacular score, Really makes it feel like a curtain call on this era. The biggest issue is RTD always had a habit of trying to top his previous finally

[@TheKingSamurott]

Missy is great and I'm glad you like her too.

[@mr.badanalogy9502]

There was a lot I didn't care for with 10's last couple of episodes, but there were some parts spread throughout them that really shined. The clone shit was unbearable for sure, and I would agree that the direction with 10's rant before saving Wilf could have been better. The thing is we saw the Doctor sort of changing in from season four and on. He started breaking his own rules, and started building an incredibly dangerous ego. He altered time with Pompeii, tried to alter it again in the water on mars even saying the laws of time were his. He started travelling by himself again, and when the doctor doesn't have a companion to anchor him he starts to get dark/emo. You could say he even references that with the dialog about how he was almost worse than the master at times. I think the last few episodes are showing us a doctor who starts to stray from the path, but then realizes what he has become in the end. Again could it have been done better? No doubt, I think Davies was just kind of at the end of his rope.