Radio Host Realized He Is Talking To a Serial Killer

[@eatrawskin]

The killer was more stunned by talking to Howard than Howard was by talking to him... Wow.

[@adreiiaii510]

Howard's from a generation where calls like this to late night talks shows was common and basically always hoaxes. Because of the nature of it... he's digging hoping this guy will either break the hoax or spill enough for law enforcement to use if it turns out he's genuine. That and probably morbid curiosity... after all, Howard's a pretty fucked up dude. it's also why his co-host isn't too disturbed by it.

[@eatrawskin]

@@adreiiaii510 I'm not really familiar with the show or Howard,I didn't know this 😳 and reading through the comments, the opinions on Howard himself are split between "i love this guy" and "this guy's weird". Going into this without any context was wild, to be honest

[@bigups2065]

@@eatrawskinhe’s one of those guys with those public opinions like this, most respectable people like him

[@jamesabestos2800]

He learned about his yennis

[@notu1529]

@@eatrawskin of course Howard would try to not antagonise the caller in order to gather more information in the case that he is the real deal

[@robsonoliveira2034]

Impressive how Howard will interrupt even a serial killer

[@kabloosh699]

Why not? The guy kills prostitutes, probably hits them with a hammer when they aren't looking. He was an opportunist.

[@machine-shopbilly6584]

Did Howard ask him about his penis?

[@advocacynaccountablity]

Not impressive - just next level narcissistic.

[@scottdavidson526]

😂

[@oobernoober7617]

That's Howard Stern. If he had more time, he'd be asking him deep personal questions and make the literal serial killer uncomfortable, lol

[@rachaelcameron6893]

Lol Howard telling him he might as well just off himself is hilarious. Can't say I disagree but the way he said it so upfront 😭

[@jayrose6312]

Well, if you can’t convince him to turn himself in to the authorities, it makes for a solid “Plan B!” 😂 Classic Howard, BTW, and that’s why I was hooked on the show when I used to have a long drive to work! On a scale of 0 through 10, the entertainment value is at least an 11!

[@stardmg]

the end where he was like "Well, I wish you would die"

[@shanedaniel8954]

As crazy as the left has become today he could never get away with saying that today. It’s really sad.

[@mikesame8321]

I think when he first started saying one of you off yourself it was kind of like Howard feeling like you needed to throw something in there critical of all the murders otherwise the collar if he really was the serial killer might think he's being disingenuous. Running sound a little confused when he said it but at the very end when he's like yeah well I hope you die. I think he even knew the call was wrapping up and and he didn't have to worry about trying to keep the guy on the phone talking any longer so he knows through a real live a fu in. I said the first time he mentioned the guy offering himself it seemed like he wasn't trying to be too insulting if that's possible but more like I If you got a mind like this guy killing people that should probably be bumping around in your head too if you've killed a dozen people that maybe you should just kill yourself. And again I think you probably won't even have done that if he hadn't been talking to the guy so long and literally not said anything negative about the murders.

[@ghhhp]

@@stardmgi died laughing at that shit 😂😂 fool really said welp it’s been nice talking i hope you 🤷‍♂️😂😂

[@TimmWebbYT]

“If I killed myself I would miss the next Batman movie” honestly the best advice to not commit suicide I’ve ever heard

[@Superduperfreakingmario]

Man my depression was cured

[@Tyler_18_]

*After the GTA VI trailer* Current objective: Survive

[@josh8764]

Howard replied with “I’d actually kill myself to miss the Batman movie”😂💀

[@thatoneguywhodidthatonethi6913]

yeah i gotta see how this trilogy goes i just know its gonna be fantastic

[@juicyjules7409]

Hmm 🤔

[@RichieGnyc]

It is pretty impressive that he got this guy to describe himself sporadically throughout this interview. Not fat, not typically good-looking, no tattoos, describe his hunting grounds, parents still together, one parent is a church-goer.

[@istartedajoke1704]

Yea..like a serial killer would be honest about that anyways

[@KaylaVaughn07]

I can see one telling the truth about all that.. if they thought they'd never get caught because of the interview. Like the Zodiac killer.. he liked taunting the police and leaving clues. This guy knows the police investigated some of his kills... To talk about that with someone, publicly, believing he wouldn't get caught... He loved retelling those events with others. He had to feel invincible and so much more powerful after this radio talk.

[@madhatter8508]

@@istartedajoke1704 That's how they caught the BTK killer.

[@istartedajoke1704]

@KaylaVaughn07 you got a point but who knows . Who else thinks that the dude in the picture kind of goes with his voice as well? Lol I do

[@Meeps72]

💯@@istartedajoke1704

[@robnewsome2407]

This is almost like an interrogation before they even know who the killer is, they do a great job making him comfortable and disclosing information

[@Rattlsnke]

It’s brilliant. Reminds me of something…sadly this can’t be used in court, can it? Maybe it can actually since it was between civilians. Bro literally just called because he wanted to expose himself. Everyone needs someone to talk to…generally it isn’t the Howard Stern Show that is the outlet though…

[@dingoledingus9039]

Stern could be an interrogator.

[@Antney-u6j]

I felt like Robin was asking the better questions and was more focused and was conducting an investigation.

[@AgentLemmon]

@@dingoledingus9039 And a sociopath. The lack of emotion and funny banter is weird.

[@riffbw]

I'm not sure if this would be admissible as evidence in court, but I don't see why it wouldn't be if they can match the voices or trace the call. Even if Howard was only doing it for his show's ratings, he still did the right thing by getting the guy to keep talking. If it's real, it's that much more info out there in the public to help find the guy.

[@trudolph8097]

“You’re not a serial killer?” “No, I never said my name was Ed” 😭😭

[@leonarennie6734]

Not even going to deny it at this point they already know 😭

[@eliasvonbrille]

That was so funny. Can't believe this Joke actually happened irl 😂

[@Dude-oy9dl]

Dude has killer comedic timing

[@kenW13]

😭

[@EepyPrincess12]

This is actually not the only serial killer who did something like this. Rodney Alcala,and infamous serial killer in the 70’s,became known as the Dating Game Killer because in 1974(when he was already well into his murder spree)he went on the Tv show the Dating Game to try and get his next victim,and won,the girl he won the heart of literally refused to go out with him because of how creepy he was,and that saved her life because less than 1 weeks later after that he killed another girl.it’s also worth noting that he photographed ALL of the women he killed…there are over 2,000 photos in his collection.

[@sophiewallace8662]

He was a convicted rapist at the time he was on the show ...

[@jarmkolu6158]

There was man in Czechoslovakia who was in show called millionare, from the winnings he bought gun a started killing people in forest. His name was Victor Kalivoda.

[@RogueEva]

@@jarmkolu6158 czech republic ;) we separated in 1992

[@mshrm.]

⁠@@RogueEvawho guarantees u it wasn’t before 1992?😂

[@RogueEva]

@@mshrm. eh, my life experience cause i was alive when it happened? what?

[@micheledonahoe8092]

Howard was smart, he not only got clues for the police, he kept his caller thinking Howard was still doing his show, brilliantly done. I hope the cops were listening.

[@kathyr.8135]

He talks to much . Let the guy talk . He kept cutting him off . No , he wasn’t

[@havok7860]

@@kathyr.8135 thats the point, pissing someone off or annoying them usually makes them go on rants

[@paulcooper8818]

@@trent3872 Trump has not apologized 😂😂😂

[@devilghostface8798]

​@@paulcooper8818he never will and he will never surrender

[@davemccombs]

he LITERALLY SURRENDERED TODAY@@devilghostface8798 Jesus fucking christ

[@upstate315er2]

His answers are so quick, confident, and never strays away from what inevitably became the facts

[@ajolleyduck2933]

Very unsettling.

[@bruggeman672]

@upstate315er2 and what facts were these? And what proof is there that the caller is actually the murderer?

[@cosmicmuffin322]

And you can tell he's remembering because of the micro-pause before some of the answers - not long enough to make something up, but long enough to remember something in the past.

[@bruggeman672]

@@cosmicmuffin322 I'd say the exact opposite. He seems like he's trying to impress Howard Stern. He was clearly awed to even be speaking directly to Stern.

[@Walczyk]

@@ajolleyduck2933it’s really cool

[@Tink00]

I know we're all impressed with how Howard handled this, but "Clay" was so casual about the whole thing. It's horrifying to imagine people like this walking among us.

[@z_.5557]

That name sounds familiar. Sounds too familiar in fact, it reminds me of a certain groomer.

[@markot3861]

@@ebenserfontein8145 1. he understand that its wrong from your perspective, but cares for it as much as you would care if i said what temperature of pool water i prefer. its not wrong from his perspective and its all that matters, 2. he wouldnt, 3. what else would give him that high, what else would top it? getting into politics maybe. his whole phone call was narcissistic, hes already there.

[@theActualPostalDude]

among us

[@utopes]

Clay is sus

[@lordasian8476]

Among us ??

[@ItsAryxe]

Wasn't expecting to watch this for the full 27 mins. Great format, great narration. Great video.

[@RollieBeatz]

Righttttttt? I thought it was boringg

[@CurtisL8.3066]

When Howard Stern was actually good. His job was to make people flipping channels stop and listen, and he did it better than just about anyone in history

[@emmievillamor4834]

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[@tatersoup]

Who wrote the words on the screen though? So much of it is wrong.

[@FerousFolly]

howard was actually really good at building and maintaining rapport while slipping in little questions here and there that would unquestionably help in identifying the guy.

[@madhatter8508]

And yet the guy was never identified. Ellwood was already in jail during this show, so there was no way he could have called in for that long. Not only that, but he was in Ohio during the murders "Clay" mentioned and the murders that Ellwood committed were not bludgeoning with a hammer. The police said that the murders were probably committed by multiple people. If that's so, then Ellwood committed some murders but not the ones mentioned by Clay.

[@nun.9902]

thats how detectives talk to them like they are a friend it lets their guard down and they think you are enjoying talking about their violent murders and they offer up information much easier just like a couple guys having a conversation shootin the shit

[@joshcantrell8397]

Didn’t do much help. And you’re assuming the guy is even telling the truth… lol

[@Alik_Odess]

@@joshcantrell8397 He probably telling the truth because of the nature that these people have. They want to brag about things, to feel in control and invincible to the point they're comfortable that they'll never get caught.

[@blindship5792]

puffff are you deaf??? howard only babling away listening to his own voice and kept intrupting the guy every two mins

[@smeghead250]

Kudos to Howard and the co-host for continuing the interview, getting his voice recorded, speech patterns, "baba booey", getting info out of him that establishes a timeline of his first kill, car breakdown, his approximate age, marital status, his parents marital status, number of kids, lack of tattoos, the implication that he isn't black, his body type, and the Jimmy Swaggart Town "area around here" comment which could help find a location, all of which can help link an eventual suspect.

[@NXSProductions]

Baba Booey wasn't a random thing the guy said.... Howard had an employee, Gary Dell'Abate, who went by the nickname "Baba Booey." But yes, Howard was fishing as subtly as he could.

[@residentpotato6023]

Audience realizes Howard has been irreverent for years.

[@GoofBallGuru]

Unfortunately the serial killer is still out there 😞

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@GoofBallGuru - Proof, or you are full of it!

[@auto_5]

No doubt. Howard did a good thing in a smooth way here.

[@keirangrant1607]

When I served with a Marine infantry battalion in Iraq, there were 0311's who said the only reason they were in Iraq was to kill people, and they enjoyed it. There were some infantrymen that we swore would be serial killers if they were not killing people for Uncle Sam

[@keirangrant1607]

@@millcity2505 Of phucking course I was a POG, but I still got my Combat V though. You dont even know how to spell POG, but you chirping off. You probably a COD warrior. Not brave enough to fight, but brave enough to talk ish on a computer.....hahahahaha, go find the BFA for my 9mm chump

[@keirangrant1607]

@@millcity2505 Persons Other than Grunts (POG) get it right boot

[@sumguyonnet2266]

​@@millcity2505😂

[@soggybiscotti8425]

There are loads of military personnel that go just for the killing. It's pretty standard around the world man. Legalised murder. At least they are doing it for your team or whatever..

[@ac-ir9gs]

I dont have a problem with that. Enjoy just keep that shit over there

[@ChartreuseDan]

I love that the guy didn't think he was talking to Howard Stern until he started interrupting

[@chiggyiggy7]

"You haven't killed any prostitutes?" "No, I never said my name was Ed." This is such a crazy line 😭

[@jasonbrown372]

"Ed" is a talking horse. That's crazy. But as crazy as that sounds, wait till you hear his theme song: "Owe...a hearse is a hearse, and cursed at first, and no one alive should even strive to be in a hearse that's cursed, that's worst, unless you're first and still you're cursed to die at the hands of the famous Mr. Ed!! (SCRATCH) I meant famous Mr. Ted (Bundy)!!"

[@Kittiezzx]

"I've got no tattoos, I wouldn't do that to myself." Oh... I'm glad he drew the line somewhere...... lmfao

[@Wanttofanta]

Holy fk, I was reading this comment right when they said it, literally not kidding. Too damn funny :D

[@stefangabaroi7639]

You have tattoos dont you?

[@mctommed8604]

😂😂 honestly the stuff that psychopaths actually care about is insane compared to things they do and don't care about, like they could disembowel someone and play with it but yet they are so worried If they see a scratch on the floor...mind-blowing Man

[@GoldenBred]

​@@stefangabaroi7639 probably yes since she looks like a goth in the profile pic

[@araarashinigami]

Based.

[@julie.1081]

I'm not a big Howard fan but I'll admit he did a great job interviewing this guy. He kept his tone very even & didn't try to shame him(which would probably shut the killer down). He talked to him like 2 guys in a bar talking about fishing. I wish Robin would've stayed quiet though. Howard should invite more killers to call in. There are about 2,000 active serial killers in just the US today. Maybe Howard could help catch a few of them.

[@tgg2025]

What are you talking about ir what were you listening to? He didnt talk to him like two guys at a bar he was trolling him the entire time, saud hed wish he "passed away" a few times, and some other stuff. You need to listen closely when you watch videos. Theres no proof this was a serial killer unfortunately

[@mikesame8321]

I'm over that list of the 2000 serial killers. I don't know man that sounds a little bit hard to quantify. And I'm sure it was the profilers from the FBI and all that the people who would be best that in the world but still to figure out a number? I'm sure there's quite a few serial killers that mix things up and don't always use a standard operating procedure and none of their murders have been either found at all or identified as being the victim of a SK. And that nice round number of 2,000 makes it sound like somebody that was one of the people that came up with this number just said screw it let's just call it 2000 that sounds in the ballpark. I think it would be more convincing to say something like 1954 of them. Try to make it sound like some actual thought 12 the process. I'm sure whatever the real actual number though is not going to be one that is going to be of any comfort to anyone. And I have no idea what that number would be in whoever came up with the 2000m sure has a much better idea than I do but I got to believe that's a kind of a vague number certainly better than one I could come up with for sure. I wouldn't be surprised it's quite a few more or quite a few less. If I had to bet though I've been on it being more. And that's true for whether or not you like stirring he is a brilliant guy he did very well they're pulling information out of that guy

[@IreZico]

If a killer is being invited on to be “caught” I don’t think they will take part lmfao

[@kiilee5963]

@@IreZico they will end up being caught anyways they know that themselves.

[@sagefields5847]

2000 serial killers in the US is not a believable stat. Do you know how many we have in the UK today? Zero.

[@skl00t84]

He wasn't paralyzed at all like the thumbnail claimed. Bro was very calm

[@T-J-S]

Clickbait lol

[@kizaqy]

nbs i forgot that’s why i watched ts😂

[@YogSoth]

Agreed. And he also wasn’t talking to a serial killer. He was talking to a random guy that claimed to be a serial killer - big difference. Not that I think Howard would be paralyzed talking to one, I just think this is all bs.

[@reyluna9332]

I remember listening to this. He took the call like the caller was bullshitting so he went along with it. As the call went on, he started to believe him, and so did a lot of listeners, me included.

[@JaimeMesChiens]

I felt the same! Initially I thought he was lying to get Robin shocked. The longer Clay talked, the more I believed him. This was terrifying.

[@ganymeade5151]

He says he killed one of them because his car broke down. That is insane.

[@DaProlifik1]

@@ganymeade5151 no he didn't, he said he stopped killing people when his car broke down.

[@ronnie_5150]

I still think it's bullshit and Stern went with it purely for ratings. Name a single shred of proof this is real. If he's killed so many women, he could have named ONE, or even a location.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Why couldn't the police compare his voice with their prime suspects? Doesn't anyone have a recording of Russell Elwood's voice?

[@band1tt]

The most scary part is how the police is just looking for someone to blame it on regardless on if they did it or not

[@nickacelvn]

There it is. The most accurate comment on here.

[@socore4659]

Imagine how often it happens and how often they get the conviction

[@ckeilah]

What did you think the JOB of a cop is? Let me help you: the ONLY job of a cop is to FIND (or create) a CRIME for the prosecutor to convict. round & round & round. They lie. They don't care if convicted are actually guilty of anything. Welcome to the modern world.

[@bubbleman2002]

@@socore4659 You don't have to imagine, there are numbers on it.

[@ze2004]

@@nickacelvn not in Portugal...

[@tbcfrankee]

Very impressive on part of both hosts. When I was in psychiatry, I would interview a lot of guys kind of like this, though not as bad. The fact that Howard got him to laugh and relax is absolutely masterful. The fact that the guy was not exaggerating, not emotionally charged, indicates it's likely the real deal. Howard quickly switched on the investigator mode. I guarantee you he was on high alert, but through his years of experience in these conversations he did something most people cannot.

[@demgphix]

I don't have the education or training that you do, but was impressed how both hosts could stay so calm throughout the convo, as it became more obvious that it was real. They probably didn't believe the guy at first, but so many details in must have started to wonder 😳

[@Zassaliss]

edgelord

[@AmandaabnamA]

I'm sure he kmows and has interviewed plenty of deranged people

[@bensnow2688]

@@AmandaabnamALol yeah, most of the HSS was him talking to deranged people. That’s why it was so great

[@xeno1336]

Howard Stern was terrible in this... making assumptions and interrupting

[@reeese66]

This is actually one of the most genuine vulnerable calls I've ever heard them take tbh

[@reeese66]

I've never heard Howard be so (though nonchalantly) invested in not having a caller hang up.

[@rgkong8783]

This is one of the best things Howard has done, dude knew how to handle this situation.

[@ryanhampson673]

During 9/11 Howard was broadcasting and his coverage was excellent in the early hours of the attack. He went straight serious, no joking and tried to get information out from people in the city calling the show.

[@rgkong8783]

@@ryanhampson673 Yeah I hate how Howard ended up being a weirdo and jerk… his earlier days were gold.

[@carrieannefaithfull2044]

Talked a jumper

[@Ewok009]

​@@rgkong8783when wasn't Howard a 'weirdo' ? Maybe you weren't there but stern was always somewhat of a nerd especially during his early 80's broadcasts from wnbc. It wasn't until the late 1980's when he started to realize he could become 'Hip' and go rock and Roll' that's when he began to befriend rock musicians and book them on his show and eventually work with them etc. ..just check out his look in 1983 compared to when he was collaborating with Rob zombie 😅

[@rgkong8783]

@@Ewok009 Almost every woman he’d bring onto his show was sexualized or with the intention of exploiting them for views. I know the women obliged but still.

[@otterbro5245]

This has likely been mentioned already, but I'm about 99% positive the comic he's talking about with the severed fingers was Spawn issue #5, a serial killer named Billy Kincaid would lure kids into his icecream truck, then after killing them would glue their severed fingers to a canvas making a 'Finger Painting'.

[@chasedwards9626]

Ah you beat me to it I just commented the same exact thing. I did a cursory scroll but didn’t see this until after I posted. I wonder, if you’re a comic book fan did you also take note of his Batman obsession? He said he doesn’t want to kill himself because he would miss the next Batman movie. Maybe part of his m.o. is he thinks he’s cleaning the streets. He also described himself as intimidating. 🤔

[@juangringo3906]

@@chasedwards9626 I knew it was Batman. He keeps killing so he can see his next movie. What a narcissist. He cant handle the fact that he is just like the Joker deep down. Mans got daddy issues. 😂

[@duckydan2502]

hardcore :D

[@swiftblaqness]

Bro I literally just watched this episode of Spawn last night, No lie

[@Skibidibapbombambimbop]

Or something a little less ominous: "The Silencer", the villainous character known as Quietus has the ability to create lethal weapons from thumbprints. Quietus collects the thumbprints of his victims and then uses them to create deadly objects. From the DC Comics series "The New Age of Heroes."

[@marekbainbridge2009]

howard stern is the only man with the balls to tell a serial killer (who could be anywhere) to take their own life

[@godoftestoe7956]

I dont think its insulting what he said. Many serial killers kill themselfes afterwards (often in the jail) because they just dont want to rot there.

[@RobertA-11-11]

I can tell you where the serial killer can’t be - inside his studio, to the parties Howard goes, and inside Howard’s gated community. And even if he somehow managed that, he’d have to take care of the armed private security first. So no. No balls are needed if you have a net worth of $600-$800 MILLION dollars, like Howard does. Then you can be exactly how cocky you want to be. It’s not like he’s going to catch him in a Walmart.

[@marekbainbridge2009]

it was a joke bro @@RobertA-11-11

[@RobertA-11-11]

@@marekbainbridge2009 Hahaha… Really? I missed the joke. But disregard my previous message in that case 😉😂

[@marekbainbridge2009]

uhhh okay@@RobertA-11-11

[@Shaannooonn]

Who’s a woman on the call? She’s phenomenal and I believe her remarks made the caller open up the most. To hear a woman amused and humored either made him feel powerful or aggravated him to say more awful things to scare her. She also asked amazing questions.

[@ideamonkey]

That's Robin, Howard's muse and a very underrated part of his success. Not underrated to Howard, he has always credited and thanked her.

[@JamesTrainer-m2p]

You don’t know robin?! I don’t know Howard without her, she’s for real greeeaat

[@Shaannooonn]

@@JamesTrainer-m2p I don’t know Howard as well really, so it’s not about her. I believe she’s a big part of his success, it seems so from the video.

[@paulrash8861]

She rode coat-tails

[@ideamonkey]

@@paulrash8861 Howard himself has said he found her indispensable, and has always had her on his team for like the past 30 years.

[@savannahfuller292]

“If my kid killed something cute I would probably just be like ‘well this is it..’ “ 😂😂 that has to be the funniest thing he said, I’m sorry

[@warcryme4176]

Thats wild ngl

[@GmtZ71]

Kiss me with your mouth

[@buzzyb13]

What's even crazier, is Howards co-host laughing and saying "kill them haha", in response to his comment. 😅 I mean I know she was riffing and probably just blurted something out nervously in an attempt to bolster Howard, but like, damn girl lol. 😂

[@ResilientIzShe]

​@buzzyb13 she asked "how'd you kill it" at least that's what I heard, if we're talking about the comment regarding the rat

[@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681]

I shouldn't laugh ... But yea this is hilarious

[@lotusfae]

I love how you can hear Howard asking for lots of details that law enforcement would want to know.

[@ass640]

The guy definitely had tattoos...

[@aewtx]

I'm having a hard time understanding how given a lot of the information here AND HIS VOICE that they aren't able to find out who it is. Is he such a loner he has no friends or family who would recognize his voice? Did the police not put it out on the news, asking if anyone recognized the voice? And just from hearing his voice, without even knowing this person, you can already tell a lot about them. He's white. Or at least not black (which is why he also laughed about that black cop getting looked at as a suspect). But he sounds white (yes, you can tell a person's race by their voice). He's not obese. Or else he would be wheezing as he talked. And that's not even including the other clues he himself gave, such as his general age. He sounds 30s to 50s (which would match with the fact that he's got kids, though going by the math, he was supposed to be only 22 at the time of this call). Average to tall height (the shorter you are, the higher pitch/more nasal your voice tends to be). I'm going to guess 5'10 to 6'0. Then there's the clues given by what he said. He's a huge Batman fan. Probably had Batman memorabilia and comic books. Did they ever compare this audio to other known audios of Ellwood to confirm it's his voice?

[@mrscruffles801]

All this information and they couldn't find this guy? Yet the government tracks every move we make on a daily basis.

[@kittentamer2164]

I mean. To put in perspective, the NSA collects data on everyone under the premise of preventing terrorism and threats to national security. But, they haven’t caught a single person. The only times crimes have been prevented are from ‘boots on the ground’ investigative efforts. So despite all the data collection, it seems so far it’d been totally worthless. A potential reason for this is that information needs context. If you can’t connect the dots and give information a narrative frame, it’s just a bullet point or a list of information that tells you nothing. Like reading ingredients for food but not knowing what food it is. As a result, the slow process of piecing things together is still going to be better, and if that doesn’t work you’re up a creek.

[@spicesmuggler2452]

​@@aewtxYou cannot tell a race of someone by their voice and you cannot tell the height by their voice pitch, this comme t is ridiculous

[@donaldwilson5693]

Howard and the co-host did a great job. They came up with a lot of good questions quickly. Scary just how matter-of-fact and emotionally detached that guy was.

[@garrisonfjord]

Robin Ophelia Quivers is her name.

[@user-nc9pc3gr4c]

sounds like Chris Elliott

[@XiaoLongGungFu]

Do you mean Robyn? ...

[@michaelm3505]

The co host lol. Delete this comment save yourself the embarrassment

[@theorangegrape2068]

this comment is definitely more embarrassing than theirs lmao "dElEtE tHiS coMmEnT" @@michaelm3505

[@DeepFleeceheart]

I'm surprised the producers didnt call the police while the guy was on the line to trace the call. Instead, FBI had to come in and seize the recordings after the fact

[@MillywiggZ]

Got to love how Howard is very cleverly trying to get information out of “Clay” like appearance, location, vehicle, personal history, methods, family, work place etc. by stroking the ego and sounding disapproving to goad “Clay” into revealing more. Ar the same time his co-host is asking stupid questions that could destroy the momentum of this interrogation. Real or not, it was a good insight into how to do that kind of thing.

[@veikkoveljanen7475]

No The stupid questions are actually good between "serious" ones those might make him feel More relaxed and like they are just casually chatting.. thats why police also ask irrelevant questions in interregations

[@BunnyQueen97]

^ I agree, it made it sound like he was just calling into the show as another wacky guest, which I’m sure helped to keep him calm. They both kept it super light on purpose.

[@veikkoveljanen7475]

@@BunnyQueen97 yep

[@maxstueven1965]

Howard did a great job with this guy. Howard would probably make a good police interrogator.

[@youssefnaifer1602]

ikr , the guy was literally asking him if he has tattoos

[@CERTAIND00M]

I was born and raised in New Orleans. My mom wasn't the most discerning parent when it came to inappropriate content. Her thought process was if she had to get up early and drive me to school, she was going to listen to the Howard Stern Show while doing it and simply hope that I didn't turn out a complete degenerate in the process. Imagine how surreal it was being a 4th grader getting dropped off at school halfway through the above segment. As soon as I got into the classroom, I told everyone, "There's a serial killer on the loose in New Orleans! He's on the Howard Stern Show right now bragging about it!" My mom got called to arrange a parent-teacher meeting that night. She just laughed and said sure and then didn't show up for it. Apparently, you can do that and the teacher will just have to keep teaching your kid.

[@daniellewatson8352]

Your mother had no filter whatsoever. Sorry.

[@CERTAIND00M]

@@daniellewatson8352 I appreciate your condolences but I was also fortunate enough to have some genuinely good role models growing up, like my grandfather. He really helped to balance her out.

[@daniellewatson8352]

@@CERTAIND00M Understand darl. My maternal grandfather was a beautiful man whom showed me unconditional love. I cannot say the same about my mother.🕊

[@mxtb1888]

You sound like a great story teller. I bet you can hold a room captivated without having to be the center of attention.

[@jacobbatchelor7877]

@@mxtb1888 You sound like someone who would say 'atm machine'

[@omardude39]

Glad I'm not the only one to hear this radio segment and see that Howard and his co-host essentially saw the opportunity to conduct an evidential interview with a serial killer and certainly did not pass on that. The questions they ask are so direct, and yet establish extremely useful descriptors - height, build, tattoos, family background, method for killing. Howard is an effective police investigator who made a career as a radio show host.

[@sergiogood3446]

fr

[@anon4854]

"Effective police investigator" lol, lmao even

[@htspencer9084]

​@@anon4854rofl, perchance.

[@drewg4323]

Ellwood also would have been recorded in the interrogation room, so they can then compare that recording to this, listening for tone, speech patterns, words used etc etc to make a connection

[@slickrick646]

That's why he was the King of shock radio

[@s.stinnett3972]

Wow! “Are you a big fat mess?” Beautifully savage lol

[@shalonsmith1337]

It's crazy how excited he got once he realized he was on air and actually talking to Howard.

[@uggggggghhhhh]

Not really if you know who Howard is

[@shamusmoore]

i never knew howard was a bad guy, what'd he do? I'm genually clueless rn@@uggggggghhhhh

[@RealBrizz]

⁠@@shamusmooredon’t think thats what he meant by it lol, think he just meant it’s not crazy to be excited to talk to Howard cuz of how famous he is

[@Maple373]

13:03 I’ve listened to parts of this interview before and never caught where he seems to be saying he would have liked to kill his fiancé but since he’d clearly be the suspect, he didn’t.

[@upstate315er2]

First time I heard that too

[@mikesame8321]

I thought I heard it just cuz he mentioned having a wife or fiance or something and Howard made the joke did you kill her sort of offhanded and the guy said know if I'd done that everybody would have known it was me. And I don't know if you was just divorced or separated from her she was dead but I remember staring like making the Joe like the idea wasn't fiance oh where is she maybe he killed her. And they were talking over each other and the guy just said if I'd killed her everywhere I would have been a suspect. So it was really brief to cuz I remember actually thinking yeah well it doesn't matter if you're actually a fucking serial killer already if you are fiance or wife is murdered you are a suspect until the police eliminate you as a suspect. Because in a very high percentages of fiance's or wife's being murdered it's the guy husband. So they start by eliminating the low-hanging fruit get it out of the way or they go with a high probability of spotting their guy it right from the get-go. course to the person gets accused of that it's terrible even if it's hinted at and they get a whiff of it it's got to be horrible and I think that because they see it all the time that's how they think it. So it was like real quick I think that was just in tire statement on it was if I had killed her I would have been a suspect or if I had done that I would have been a suspect and that was it that people are laughing talking over each other.

[@keithwayne2902]

I didn't hear him say anything about killing his fiance

[@joeblow1935]

He didn't say he killed her I'm guessing she has a high profile job probably because he indicated if he killed her he would basically be caught instantly so she may be well known or/and they had a messy break up. He was not married to her but they obviously had a very long relationship because it sounded like he did get a divorce so they were together long enough for common law married to kick in. And as well they had 2 kids. The majority of people don't hear nothing lol I was half ass listening and was playing a game and still picked up more then most lol, in criminal investigation experience is far more important then smarts most times the only other qualifier would be luck but more been there done that! It's the little quirks for the job you pick up. Take the do you have tattoos question, the way he answered I bet he's got a tattoo but most likely 2or 3 minimum or he's got a fairly religious background and I'd guess atleast 1 tattoo. I don't think he's stopped killing for any reason but he's disheartened and put off by not getting the fix and power of his legend in the limelight hence why he would call Howard's show hoping for some bit of glory. This guy is just lucky he's not good he's not anything but a failure he's not a psychopath or a narcissist he's a posser better luck next time around loser lol!

[@marifloyd1543]

I caught that too, but they were all talking over each other and they missed it.

[@Xylot]

Did the person who transcribed the audio have earplugs in or something? lol

[@mooganify]

It’s probably all automated

[@CableWrestler]

It should ALL be checked BEFORE it gets uploaded. It looks unprofessional otherwise.

[@whyjnot420]

@@CableWrestler It is one thing to have an occasional typo when the audio is somewhat questionable, but this was just sad. Copyediting. COPYEDITING. COPYGODDAMNEDFUCKINGEDITING PEOPLE!!! ffs

[@sol-hb8zg]

I was gonna say lmaoo

[@girlgriffin711]

Same thing on normal CC. Everyone does a shitty job now a days. The world was BETTER in ALL ways before now. We're doomed thanks to the new generation.

[@CokeJimbo]

Sometimes when relaying a story or experience, my voice can get shaky, as if im experiencing it again. 22:05 makes me think he's really thinking about and seeing that moment again. It's like adrenaline in his voice.

[@tjayk9127]

This may very well be the most disassociated person of all time. The fact he can get on the radio and OPENLY talk about it like it’s normal is wild. Just absolutely wild.

[@ronnie_5150]

Probably because the caller isn't a serial killer. Why does everyone think this is real?

[@jbac5767]

It's really not that wild. You'd be surprised how many folks are like this. BTW you can call me clay

[@ronnie_5150]

There was never a shred of evidence to show this was real. The FBI even looked into it. @@jbac5767

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

He is probably just a pure sociopath. They have no remorse. He sounds arrogant and selfish, which explains why he's not married. I don't think he sounds dissociated much at all.

[@user-ru6mq5sc5n]

Actually this is very common, just look up other videos of people like this.

[@Iris-gl2fx]

My dad used to love listening to Howard stern DAILY I wish he was still around to hear about this, I know he would’ve been telling us all about it. Rest in peace dad ❤

[@maverick4life7749]

There's a chance he heard this live depending when he passed, I hope it was peacefull and he is in a better place now ! My condolences

[@Kirby-vd7hw]

Bro stop im literally gonna cry

[@kathyr.8135]

He talks to much . Let the guy talk . He kept cutting him off . No , he wasn’. Howard needs to keep quiet enough to let the guy give more information. Many times the guy would of told more details and it was getting interesting and Howard had to keep TALKING . Blah Blah Blah and the woman.Howard TALKS TO MUCH . Just listen

[@kathyr.8135]

You will see your dad again . I promise . He is with God . Heaven is a million times better then Earth . I received a sign from my mom and dad when they passed . Pray to God and ask for a sign that he is well . Are you Saved ? Do you believe in God ? Ask Him into your Heart if not . There is more to this World than we can ever imagine. We go on . We are just passing through

[@badtime6096]

Im sorry for your loss, rip. ❤

[@gatblau1]

I know it’s been said before, but it’s pretty scary how some guy sitting next to you in a restaurant or passing you on the sidewalk could be someone evil like this. I remember getting creepy vibes from some people at times through the years and making a decision to avoid them. Sometimes I wonder if they were this type of person.

[@starfox300]

Its not that strange, all men can do this. Look at the history of mankind for the past thousands years, pillaging, slaughter, rape, destruction was the norm. Doesnt matter if it was the Romans, Mongols, Vikings, Germanic tribes etc. It's only been very recently that humans became "civilized". But that ability is still programmed into the DNA of every man and it can always come out.

[@vegasvanga5442]

If you've ever taken a long drive somewhere, there is a good-to-fair chance you've unknowingly passed by some depraved serial killer who likely won't ever be caught

[@purplewine7362]

The people you deemed "creepy" without knowing them at all probably though YOU were that kind of a person.

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

@@purplewine7362no, that’s not how that works. The human brain is really good at picking up on small, almost imperceptible details in another’s behavior that indicates underlying issues with that person. If you’ve ever talked to, say, a woman or child who described how some guy felt “off”, that person was likely right. Did the creepy guy think that the woman or child was also creepy because they thought that of him? It would be highly illogical to assume so

[@purplewine7362]

@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro do you have any research paper or medical article to support this? I don't take vibes based arguments. "likely right" lmfao

[@DhenlyJuhlCabanas]

It's really smart that Howard just kept him talking making it seem like he was unfazed or nonchalant about the whole situation, while actively asking great question to nail the guy.

[@pegbaldwin4590]

You all completely missed him admitting he would have done it to his fiance but he would have became a suspect. When they were asking about his fiance.

[@beewest5704]

Imagine finding this out if you were his fiance. Jeez

[@pegbaldwin4590]

@@beewest5704 maybe she already had an idea and that is why she left.

[@CieraMychele]

13:01

[@gibbyjibby0]

no i didnt

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

I doubt anyone missed that

[@AllyMind5Star]

The killer's confidence was eerie and heavy to hear, and in general he gave off a nasty pressure... Just listening to him made me feel ugly. Like others have said, I have to give praise to Howard and Robin for their level-headedness and calm demeanors.

[@chrisb2038]

it was probably a joke to them, have you ever listened to the howard stern show? they keep that demeanor no matter who they talk to

[@AllyMind5Star]

@@chrisb2038 Yes, a bunch growing up. In 2007, my god-father bought a jeep and it had Sirius radio, and Howard's radio show was a part of that. I loved his show. It's where I heard a parody of "Boys are Back in Town" in the words of "Her boobs are big and brown". Although, not until now have I heard him talk to someone like this.

[@NickDeWayne]

​@@chrisb2038that's the point they stayed in character regardless of what they were hearing

[@YogSoth]

What killer? You mean the guy on the phone telling bs stories? C’mon

[@DavidBrocekArt]

I've been watching real crime videos for like 5 years now, and I'm so shocked I've never heard of this guy before.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Maybe you’re the guy

[@okthen657]

@@Obiamajoyisrmd maybe you're the guy

[@langleey2756]

@@okthen657Maybe you’re the guy

[@reneeb.8351]

It’s because they are black women and hookers. Louisiana is one of the most racist states they are not going to put any effort into finding who is killing black women a little on black hookers.

[@LOADEDPISTOL]

@@langleey2756maybe your the guy

[@donnaharris4420]

@ about 15:00 Howard refers to him as Ed a couple of times...no one noticed, not even the murderer.

[@Tmb1112]

The murderer did notice. He brought it up at the start that that’s not his name. Howard said it at the start though

[@camronking7947]

Yeah it was like 14:50 stern called him ed and he didn’t say anything about it

[@gringopaul3423]

How many years have Howard and Robyn been together. She knows her place and knows no fear. The instant Howard hesitated, she would ask a brilliant question. This gave Howard time to think of a new line of interviewing. What a great team!

[@xpallodoc1147]

Interesting so they made an arrest out of this phone call perhaps

[@JeffMTX]

Always been that way.

[@MG-ot2yr]

She's been with him since the 80s when Howard Stern did a radio show here in DC, but his show got cancelled after a controversial "bestiality dial-a-date" segment....I missed that show but did routinely listen to the show on the way to work. But did listen to his show where he pretended to call Air Florida and asked for fares to the 14th St. bridge.

[@JustSpeakingFacts_]

Kudos to Howard. He actually tried his best to try an get as much information from the guy as possible without pissing him off or alerting to him what Howard’s motivations was. Howard would disguise a lot of his questions as joking or up beat. Howard was able to nearly paint a picture of who this guy was.

[@KitKatToeBeans]

The guy knew exactly what Howard was trying to do (everyone did!) it was the entire point of him calling the show. He wanted the attention & to come off as smarter than everyone else, especially Howard. For me “Clay” just came off as very bland personality wise. Just meh. Not someone that anything new could be learned about regarding why people kill.

[@drmoore4011]

@@KitKatToeBeans I agree with you, but that bland personality, is how so many of them blend in, and get by for so long.

[@Kjalarrr]

Howard directly said he would turn him in if he could and that he should kill himself. He wasn't exactly subtle. Lol

[@MrBud85]

And the guy was never caught

[@starfox300]

Almost all of the questions howard asked were pretty useless

[@jessicaglass]

I’m not a Howard fan but I think he did a good job asking this guy the right questions and keeping him on the air as long as he could or as long as he wanted. I think he did a good job. Along with his co host her questions and remarks could seem childish and something small but those could help also. I do think they did a good job. Sucks they never caught him.

[@Man-From-Another-Place]

I disagree. He seemed to be trying to troll the caller: "Are you a repressed homosexual? Maybe you should kill yourself?" which risked him hanging up, or triggering him into committing further crimes. It was his usual 'shock jock' shtick.

[@jessicaglass]

@@Man-From-Another-Place yeah that part I agree with you. That could of triggered him. That I didn’t think about

[@Man-From-Another-Place]

@@jessicaglass Yeah.

[@Man-From-Another-Place]

@@PunkySlush Then surely, wounding his narcissistic pride might trigger off his anger and make him more dangerous? I think Stern was playing an irresponsible game here.

[@ae2948]

I agree - they did an excellent job. Howard and his show were infamous. The killer would have known about the show before he called. And the hosts gave him the full Howard Stern Experience which kept him comfortable and talking. The hosts did their thing and asked some excellent questions. If I had to complain about anyone, I'd complain about the psychologist (psychiatrist?) who briefly joined the call despite not having good people skills.

[@zakiyyahdrye9557]

Howard interviewed him so well! I appreciate his thoroughness so he could help them catch him! I love how Howard doesn’t praise him and minimizes how proud the killer wants to come off!

[@nicolelela7423]

Impressed Robin and Howard were getting info and keeping him on the call. They actually gathered a huge amount of info. He kept his cool thru the entire call many would have not been able to have kept it together.

[@BigDaddyTony24]

Howard Stern is the only person ever who could pull this off. Even Joe Rogan would ruin this interview with too much or too little input. Stern did it perfectly, he kept it serious, straightforward and perfectly matched the killers attitude to keep him spilling more

[@sejfzlrrhman]

Jamie, could you pull up that video of the bear wresting with the serial killer?

[@lovingmayberry307]

Joe Rogan is a million times better than Stern.

[@Assimandeli]

Towards the end he got clearly angry and tried to throw some weak jabs at the killer.

[@steveknick1978]

@@lovingmayberry307 Bad take. Rogan wouldn't even agree with you & you are too young to have experienced Stern in his prime. Rogan used to be a guest & a sit in comic on Stern; he worships Stern's talent & grew up on Stern...that's why you will never catch Rogan badmouthing Stern.

[@spacecowboy7607]

@@steveknick1978that’s a lie, they don’t like each other anymore

[@jennfields1990]

Howard actually handled that pretty well. he got a lot of information out of him without giving him a reaction or making him fear the questions he was giving him. even coaxed his ego at times to get more airtime which equals more information... he was doing the best he could with the little bit of time he had

[@mariuszmoraw3571]

I actually started instictively write down all details from this. What the hell... Good job, Howard.

[@danielduggan526]

The fact they’re able to treat this as an every day episode is just insane

[@Eidlones]

They didn't believe him. It was a shock jock radio show, all about extremes and stuff in poor taste, so these types of calls probly weren't uncommon, his way of talking tho probly got him through the screening process to be put on air. Someone who wasn't all "I'm craaazzyy!!" and who Howard could bounce off of.

[@ganymeade5151]

That is part of their schtick.

[@ganymeade5151]

That also makes the show hilarious.

[@ganymeade5151]

That is one of the things made the show great; the very dark and unaffected sense of humor. However, when Howard and Robyn decided this was not really funny and was real; their tone changed.

[@averyj.steele1074]

Eh, Howard isn't very far from being a narcissistic sociopath himself.

[@desert_holly]

I love that howard purposely screws up facts this guy already stated so he has to repeat, if not elaborate, the information. Also tests to see how his demeanor changes each time Howard messes up information. This guy either wanted to be caught so he called in to leave breadcrumbs AND/OR hes just that much of a narcissistic sociopath that he truly felt like all the info divulged still wouldnt get him caught because hes SO much smarter than the police and general population. I hope Clay is living out his extra miserable life, haunted. He deserves to have the days he gets.

[@johnnymorningstar2855]

That's because Howard is a sociopath himself. Very similar to a psychopath with the main difference being sociopaths actually understand empathy. That is why he was able to meet the vibe the killer was on and was as casual about talking about his murders with him as the killer was. Not all sociopaths are bad people unfortunately man abuse that ability to feel another's emotion to their advantage. I myself can find myself somewhere on that spectrum because I'm very social person that is capable of talking to literally everyone. I'm very good at reading people and empathizing with the worse kind of people. I've had a few conversations with people who have killed and for whatever reason they confided in me information I'm going to the grave with. I was born and raised in a rough city so I quickly learned respect is vital for survival out here but I also think that SHOULD be a general thing. Psychopaths don't understand that either. Anyway, I hope everyone stays safe out there and if my comment can relate to someone out there that may need to look beyond just a talk show. Howard is controversial but there's a lot that can be learned from his show

[@iaminpainauchocolat9300]

​@@johnnymorningstar2855you need to get out more

[@danielwood8135]

@@johnnymorningstar2855 You're telling me people admitted to murdering another human and you are going to "take it to your grave". If it isn't a flat lie then it is utterly despicable. Where you grew up is not an excuse, your "street rules" are a complete fabrication and I can only hope you figure your shit out either as a liar or a terrible human.

[@Logicalsane]

You still aren't sure that he was caught....

[@katie29baj]

Not a Stern fan, never have been. Not a hater either, just not my cup of tea. However I will be the first to admit that he is a very intelligent and intuitive person, which is likely why he does what he does so well. He's the type of guy that can insult someone and make them think he's complimenting them. Gotta respect talent/ability like that.

[@joeyabraham9159]

this was so chilling. to think the guy was so calm when he talked about his killing. its scary to know people like clay are real.

[@ItApproaches]

Nah, what's scary is the humas species is so damn delusional and oblivious to reality and prefer to live in their egoic safety bubble that's nothing but fantasy. Reality is a blank canvas, it has EVERYTHING in it. Every species kills, only humans do it for egoic reasons or no reason at all though. Most humans have absolutely no idea what's out there. A few things I know would cause people to vomit just hearing it or realizing it happens.

[@Gyrannon]

If he's a legit psychopath, then it makes sense for the "fear" part to not be there. Most psychopaths are not afraid of anything.

[@ItApproaches]

@@GyrannonNot being afraid doesn't make one dangerous or a psychopath. Those who are enlightened don't fear anything.

[@Gyrannon]

@@ItApproaches No, there is obviously more to it, but it is part of it.

[@PunguinYoga]

​@@Gyrannon Apparently, after they're caught, most serial killers are very matter-of-fact about their killing. Some seem to be proud of their "accomplishments."

[@mayflowerkid4422]

I thought I was gonna get annoyed by your interruptions, but I actually found them helpful to understand. Good job.

[@totalbliss1]

The comic book character that he was talking about with the thumb painting is most likely Billy Kincaid, one of the most sadistic and vile psychopaths in comic book history. He was a deranged child killer and pedophile. First introduced in Issue #5 of Todd McFarlane's Spawn series which came out around '92. This phone call took place in '97. In the book, there was an incident where Billy Kincaid “finger paints” by gluing dead kids’ fingers to the wall. All in all, he killed around 28 kids. Eventually Spawn kills him but they bring him back in the afterlife and he's much worse then. This guy had an unhealthy fascination with comic books mentioning Batman, Spawn's villain and whichever character that killed with a hammer.

[@DanielJKoubleRenegadeNation]

His pattern of killing also sounds almost identical to British serial killer, Peter Sutcliffe, the infamous Yorkhire Ripper of the 80s. Sutclffe also used a hammer and also pretty much exclusively targetted prostitutes. He was also married and led a relatively normal life outside of his killing sprees. I wonder if this guy was familiar with Sutcliffe? The Yorkshire Ripper story was huge in the UK at the time but maybe not so much in the US .

[@yung_wise5861]

It's probably Leatherface tbh. Sometimes he uses a mallet. He seems attached to popular icons in media to copy is why I assume that

[@paul_domici]

Howard has an amazing talent for making people feel comfortable on the air! I wish they could've traced the call!

[@detodosmoles]

The FBI did trace it, after listeners complained. That's how they found the Russel guy who apparently bragged to other inmates about the killings.

[@midwayinn1043]

@@detodosmoles well at the time pay phones still existed though so might of not get any leads but apparently it wasn't from a payphone.

[@laurieberry162]

I never killed a human or animal. But I stepped on some ants on the lawn.

[@nasrallahalfarouq]

tbh i dont think it was this howard guy that got it outta him n moreso the “serial killer” was lookin for sum1 to express himself to

[@JewTube001]

@@detodosmoles the call didn't seem to have much to do with that suspect. he was already arrested and in jail on this date.

[@danielwanamaker2214]

Great Howard Stern quote I thought I’d never hear, “I wish you would die but uh I guess you know.” Insane to think about this whole story actually being real

[@NicholasW943]

Such a raw quote

[@anotherinternetidiot6300]

"Are you going to kill yourself or what? I'd kill myself" Damn

[@paulieswalnut]

I remember listening to this live back in 97. My Dad had recently died and ai started breaking night by myself watching infomercials and whatever until Howard came on at 6am.

[@isthiswherewecamein6130]

Most serial killers WANNA be caught. I think he took that year off cause he was done killing. The thrill was gone. (The fear/thrill that he may get caught by police). So, after the police didn't knock on the door after a year, he needed too get the thrill back by calling a radio show, and taunting the police. He called a NATIONALLY BROADCAST show. He knew he could shock people. That's a straight narcissistic psychotic. And, he NEEDED to be caught to take the credit he felt he deserved. And, say, look, I freaking HAD TO CALL Howard Stern to help you catch me!!!

[@JadedKate]

Psychotic instead of psychopath ? How do you conclude that ? 🤔 Either narcissistic psychopath OR psychotic narcissist. Not psychotic.

[@isthiswherewecamein6130]

@JadedKate sorry. I'm not a psychologist. And I didn't stay at a holiday in express last night. I'm not sure if he's a psychopath or a sociopath, or just your everyday nut job. I just used psychotic as a blanket term. But, I'm glad we at least agree on the narcissistic part it seems. But, in saying that, I find it odd that that's what piqued your interest in my comment. Not the fact that a narcissist called a radio station to take credit for a murder? Do you think he's offended by my mislabeled statement? Or, my lack of knowledge when it comes to labeling people who have ended others existence? I don't understand your need to point out my mistake. Like, I could understand if you were defending someone who needed or deserved it, but, in this case you could only be defending the serial killers feelings of being mislabeled. Or, your just a troll. Or, do you just have OCD when it comes to English language sentence structure? Lmk, I'm really curious what the point of your reply was. Ty, and take care. Have a wonderful day!!!

[@isthiswherewecamein6130]

@JadedKate oh, nevermind my previous reply. I get it now. I just looked at your screen name. All the tumblers just feel into place. The Jaded answers all my previous questions. Anyways, I still wish you a wonderful day, and hope you can someday remove the jaded parts of your life, and maybe someday go by the screen name, Happy Kate. 😊

[@shamanllama]

Y'all surprised Howard handled the call like Howard ISN'T a psychopath HIMSELF. 😂😂😂

[@Doodlecream]

Lmaoooooo

[@CraftyyFruit]

Hahaha

[@amadi5x5]

My thoughts exactly. Thankfully, he's in radio interviewing some serial sexual sadist. 😅

[@tracybush1970]

That part😂

[@kidcthulhufortney1320]

I've seen this covered a few places, but I've never seen it covered this well before. Bravo!

[@asmith121]

This is wild. I'd never heard of this event before. Crazy

[@Thiokol_XLR]

This was def one of the more interesting true crime videos ive come across lately, dont know how ive never heard of this until now !

[@dawfydd]

Its a shame more hosts don't try this kind of thing, anything that helps catch these sickos is good, and all that background info he was trying to get outta him (and somewhat did) is all useful. I reckon if somebody did weirdo call ins, they should get the FBI to set them up with tracking and just not mention it- go outta their way to avoid tipping off the criminals.

[@Cyantist13]

By now they should all have call tracking in case something like this happens again, so idk when the next time a serial killer who hasn't been caught would call in to a show.

[@violetsrayreikishop2]

You'll just get more clowns doing shit just to be famous they already uploaded live stream terrorist attacks to twitch so no we don't need more Howard sterns.

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

BTK was caught in a similar way.

[@Nousername0]

@@holdernewtshesrearin5471well Dennis Shrader was just an idiot lol. He basically asked the police if they could trace a floppy disk and when they gave him an answer he asked if they were lying and he just trusted them when they said they weren’t lying 😭

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

@@Nousername0 - I don't think so. I think he WANTED to get caught so he could tell his story and finally recieve notoriety personally.

[@AxeltheGSD]

This is fascinating, (and horrible, of course), but the hosts handled this so well and kept him talking for as long as possible. I'm surprised that I've never heard about this before today.

[@selmahare]

People who haven’t grown up watching and listening to Howard and Robin have missed on so much!

[@lorenenoch6020]

Where have you been? Under a rock? Do better noob🖕🏾

[@walnuthead4307]

I am very impressed with the research it mustve taken to make this video good job man

[@pinkrubix]

I thought his reaction to being pressed on what he said to the women before he killed them was very interesting. He didn't seem as confident or comfortable talking about that and he didn't want to give any specifics. I wonder why he didn't want to talk about that. I'd love to see an FBI profiler, or even just a cop, react to this interview. A therapist or psychiatrist reacting to it would be interesting, as well, and there are plenty of those on KZbin already.

[@michaelboyle7281]

I thought so too. It almost seemed like he was shy or bashful maybe even embarrassed trying to replicate something he'd say

[@RembrandtAI]

Why do people think therapists are mindreaders? I have seen many therapists and their social/emotional intelligence is just average at best. Your average waiter at a restaurant has better social/emotional intelligence.

[@jeremymontasser6182]

Facts. Therapists are trained to recognize micro expressions and understand psychology. That’s it.

[@pinkrubix]

@@RembrandtAI Why does what I said equate to therapists being mind readers? Just because they aren't magic doesn't mean they have no valuable input to give about this guy.

[@dactylicpoet791]

If I had to guess he might consider that to be too intimate to share, like that moment is his trophy - that is if it wasn't some kind of regret.

[@rachelkelley9675]

Thanks to you Howard S. for letting us listeners on the insight of a serial killer. It was very creepy and just glad he is behind bars for good.

[@stavik96]

He died in 2014 and from what I can find he might have been incarcerated during the time when this phone call took place. He seemingly confessed to murdering Cheryl Lewis and Delores mack and said he was wanted for over 60 murders to other inmates but in the end he was only charged with the murder of Cheryl Lewis for life. I highly doubt the person in this clip is Russell Ellwood, the one that killed the other 15 or so women is probably still out there or dead but never caught.

[@alanfennell4833]

I think he was referring to an early Spawn comic. A serial killer would cut off his victims fingers and make "finger paintings" with them.

[@graemejackson5979]

Billy Kincaid. Published in 1992, and this call was 5 years later, so it fits. Joker was never depicted so gratuitously.

[@alanfennell4833]

@@graemejackson5979 yea Joker is a cool villain but DC seemed to keep him from being too vile a lot of the time. His popularity sort of holds him back, in my opinion. Of course there are exceptions, such as "Death of the Family". Although that story line is so over the top it seems like the writers were just testing the limits of the character at the time.

[@SadJugofJuice]

The title should be Serial Killer realized he is talking to a radio host.

[@charm2800]

one thing that stood out was his description of how it "pissed" him off when the prostitutes didnt take the danger they were in seriously. he was gonna show them that they better take it (him) seriously. sounds like he had an issue with not being taken seriously and needed validation

[@astrid703]

You end by saying this serial killer is at large to this day, yet if he is Russel Elwood, he's in prison for life. Hopefully, that is him, and DNA evidence (if there is any on the victims) may yet convict him for the unsolved murders.

[@tgg2025]

Dont they have any recordings of his voice to compare to this phone call? That would be a pretty good way to know if this call was Russell elwood. And if it wasnt Russell elwood then we DONT know if this was a serial killer.

[@jaealxndr]

@@tgg2025 yeah thats what i thought seems lil too easy to solve lmao

[@Halfshanks]

Well if he's in prison, he's a felon and his DNA is in the CODIS system, so if there's a connection to be made it should have by now.

[@rodolfobeans3531]

​@@Halfshanks😂 they don't put every felons DNA in the system

[@eatrawskin]

​@@rodolfobeans3531they take a swab, picture and prints when you arrive at the station. Not all felons have their DNA in the system because a lot of the times the perp has't been caught before or commited previous crimes in the first place.

[@smuckersmurfbarnes9932]

This is a great interview and Howard is doing an excellent job asking questions.

[@nickacelvn]

yeah, he only asked if the guy had been abused about five times and was given no as the answer each time. Great interviewing skills.

[@ianbailey3924]

I just love the way robin talks like they're discussing something trivial

[@aybabtu]

Dude, I like you with this format. Never was a Stern fan, and wasn't aware of this. Only you could present in this way. Thank you.

[@mightynoob45]

these subtitiles are wild

[@PrinceJJGoated]

Probably AI Generated

[@Mushromeow]

yeah they are horrifically distractingly bad.

[@cured_bacon647]

Gotta love AI

[@antonsimmons8519]

Mr. Stern INTERROGATED this man, and did a fantastic job of it. He social-engineered this psychopath for TONS of evidence against him.

[@snooks5607]

yea what's this great evidence, that his car broke down once? that narrows it down. biggest lead I can see out of that call was his voice, if they'd played it to enough people in the area someone would've been bound to recognize it eventually, he probably would've skipped town by then though

[@jerm70]

@@snooks5607 Getting a lot of little details really fleshes out the case and they did a great job at getting him to talk.

[@monkeymoment6478]

@@snooks5607 People are just circle jerking, ignore it

[@cured_bacon647]

Do you also love how stern never even tried to help and FBI got involved to get this recording from stern

[@doasitellyouu]

People paint this guy as a typical psychopath, and Howard constantly brings up being 'full of hate' but that just isn't the impression I get from the guy. He doesn't even know why he does it, and he admits to not really even being sure if he feels gratification or not. He doesn't have a lot of conviction, and he even mentions being empathetic of one and letting her go. Now, maybe I'm projecting here but during this I've weirdly found this guy relatable in a large sense. As noted, he takes a lot from what he reads in book and other fictional media, in fact his joke about missing batman makes it clear that he does value entertainment a lot. He's not a fan of tattoos, and his substance use is so minimal and gives off the impression of just trying it entirely for himself- meaning not really drinking because he cares about social conforming for example. The part where he gets called lame for his inexperience and he just doesn't really have much to say, it really convinces me of him being this same 'loser' type of nerd. I make the assumption that he's the type who has spent a lot of his life living inside his own head, this is why he enjoys fiction so much. A huge detail is also the fact that he has only tried Acid. Psychedelic drugs are pretty much the only type of drugs that these type of people would have any interest in; as the idea of heightening your inner fantasy, experiencing your exotic inner world blending with reality is appealing. During the segments about race, it makes it clear he's not exactly racist, but he isn't necessarily against racism per say. When the fact that most of his victims were black was brought up, he kind of tried to make it clear that was because of the environment, he didn't really seek out any specific races. At the same time, he found humor in the idea of the black officer being suspected, and he's also seemingly a fan of The Howard Show. It gives off the impression that he really is just on the middle bridge of it all. He's not actively for or against anything, so without having any moral guard rails he's subject to having a bit of edge at times. And this all goes back to the killing. In which I can imagine his biggest cause for it all, is that he's morally apathetic, which means there's nothing stopping him from committing this kind of murder, except circumstance. He makes it clear that circumstance did get in his way, mentioning that he was on this break because his car broke down. Anyone who feels more convicted in needing to carry out some sort of personal 'mission' going through a murder, would not just stop simply because of a minor inconvenience like that. He murdered because the chances were given to him, once it became more of a reach he just didn't really bother. I think in his search for reasoning why he killed, he was also searching for any reason to do it again. To kind of find motivation to start doing it again; or to see if his inner desire is to actively stay away from that kind of thing, making sure to never pick it up again. He says he has a few kids, which means he's probably middleaged in this recording. A notorious time period where people are really lost in their lives. And him in particular, I believe due to not caring about it morally, he had nothing stopping him from trying out murdering to see if he'd really feel something meaningful in his life. Prostitutes were easy to kill, and he also didn't really emphasize with any of their type. The seductive body-confident unintelligent Prostitute Archetype that lives their life around sex. It's not really an archetype that you can feel for. What's notable is that he mentions letting one of them go, because of her innocence, seeming new and all. It reminded him of his Ex. He could kill all the others because he couldn't bring himself to care about them in the slightest, which is why a type of person he can find a bit of care into (a bit of personal appeal to him) he can't go through with it. Again this is all most likely heavy projection excused as analysis. Now I'm diagnosed with SZPD, and I'm not exactly trying to say this guy has it too. But throughout the full recording of this conversation, I felt like this was a very easy thing to see many people go through; Like the average introvert on the internet I guess. Living a life full of apathy, getting to a point in your life where you essentially get so bored that you try things as depicted elsewhere. Most people hear stories and read in fiction all about how murder is carried out, and then they think "Huh, what would I do if I were to be a killer like this?" but most people also have a sort of barrier that ever prevents them from doing that at any point in their lives. I can see this Clay dude as simply just not having that barrier from stopping him, and he ends up trying it out like he would try a drug, or some other experience to really try and add some substance to his life. I don't really think moral apathy at least is the most uncommon in the type of nerds that browse on the internet. At the very least, to me this guy felt pretty human and relatable. This whole post probably sounds dumb, I'm just rambling my incoherent thoughts late at night. I guess the whole point that got me feeling the need to share my thoughts was seeing how people treated this guy in the comments, as some blood thirsty killer. Just my thoughts on why that isn't the case I suppose.

[@raven2905]

It wasn't dumb at all. Thank you for the insight.

[@ataarono]

being able to detatch from morality is something only psychopaths are good at doing reliably. So people treating him as a manifestation of an enemy is exatly this moral mechanism working as it should which doesn't work so predictably in the mind of a psycho. From the view of a psycho it would seem like they are one of the very few normal people without this weird morality fetish.

[@itz_gl1tch775]

he's not a psychopath, he's a sociopath. lots of psychopaths are good people, i have a minor form i take medication for. psychopaths lack moral compass and true emotion but sociopaths very much feel but are prone to reacting to emotions with negatives emotions or violence, sociopaths are known to resort to violence when they cant understand or feel their emotions. this guy had very strong feelings like when he was called the wrong name or when he talked about homosexuals and tattoos, with sociopaths those things that spark emotions tend to spark violence, thats why he doesnt have a reason he kills nor does he feel he needs one

[@justinjefferson6884]

@@itz_gl1tch775 It was my understanding that there is no medication that helps with psychopathy. What medication are you referring to? I am very curious.

[@JamesJames-li2wv]

​@@justinjefferson6884have you never heard of anti psychotics?

[@bpmgaming3351]

Honestly I never got the impression that this was staged. I've always been more impressed at how Howard was able to keep the killer talking and ask plenty of details about him that might help identify him. Howard definitely could've been a detective in another life.

[@JewTube001]

Ellwood has pretty different details

[@Vegas_Mel]

I remember this! I was fascinated by how Howard & Robin tried to get more info from him! The killer was like NOPE!

[@tahlia__nerds_out]

Agreed. While they didn’t get a ton of information, I was impressed by what they did get. I looked up Jimmy Swaggart Town, which seems to mean “Clay” was is in Baton Rouge. He goes on to say, “there’s a lot of middle of nowheres out here.” He also mentioned that the last time he murdered was a month before, and that he had been killing for about a year. That he was a white man and that he had been there because his car broke down. And that he could see the victims’ faces and that he used a hammer. If the person who joked that “Clay” was the killer, he might have heard the interview and tipped the cops. I was actually impressed by how much information they got without making the killer nervous; if they had pushed too much he might not have given the information he did give them… and maybe have put themselves in danger. And the FBI was able to use the recordings to try to figure out where the killer was; probably as good as it would get in the 1990s. What a freaky call…

[@shardonayM]

everytime it showed a picture of the victims, my heart just broke, those poor people didn't get to live their lives.

[@AbductedByRobloxians]

its not like they were living life to the fullest most were drug infused prostitutes. yet again its terrible what has happened-

[@bonita-u9ve]

notice on the rare occasions when bw are attacked by men of no colour its because they know we're the least provided for ,the least married ,the least protected .Howard showed he was not going to side with males this time but he used his popularity as a man to expose the suspects pathology .All those women were probably not going to be given 9-5 jobs right ? and they had mouths to feed,, which makes a judgemental holier-than-thou serialist rapper all the more disgusting and vile for unaliving them

[@rosannavitale9922]

How were the pictures obtained?

[@俺は誰でもない]

they lived their lives but they were cut short. they made a lot of bad decisions and eventually their luck ran out unfortunately

[@JeffMTX]

People often die young when they do risky things. RIP nevertheless.

[@yannaedc5934]

He SHOULD remain calm, he can get out so much information out of the killer. Pretty impressive.

[@bxlbjorn]

Love it how Stern is subtly trying to get a physical and situational description out of him

[@Beastjaeger]

@@DittyBitty69 I like how nuggets like you don't realise how dumb your reply is

[@joe-s5r]

@@DittyBitty69 He did give a bit away: He's white, not fat, not typically good-looking, no tattoos, described his hunting grounds, parents still together, one parent is a church-goer, has two kids, was engaged but single now, and probably the biggest clue is the recording of his voice which someone may have recognised if they were listening. It didn't pay out but I'm sure they probably got a lot of tips come in after that broadcast.

[@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq]

​@@joe-s5r Thanks for the summary.

[@shankrl1]

bro are you him?? damn@@joe-s5r

[@CreamyGoodness]

@@joe-s5r at the same time, he could have been lying some, most, or all of those details

[@Knights_Oath]

If he is still out there, sometimes serial killers just stop. They may go dormant for a period of time or stop completely. BTK had not killed in decades to came out of the woodwork when a book about him was being published and he got very angry with all the details the author got wrong. He only got caught because he had no idea that Word documents he sent to the media had meta data that can be traced.

[@timippolito1182]

He's in his mid-forties, so very most likely still out there. He almost said out loud if he knew he wouldn't be a suspect, he'd have killed his fiance, thus, he doesn't want to get caught. I'm thinking after the call, he thought about all the information he gave away on air. Enough so even tho he stopped, I'm a little surprise he hasn't been caught...

[@lennysmileyface]

@@timippolito1182 This Elwood guy did get caught what do you mean?

[@timippolito1182]

@@lennysmileyface Wasn't Ellwood charged with only 2 murders and only believed to be Clay the caller, but not proven?

[@lennysmileyface]

@@timippolito1182 Yeah he wasn't tied to many of the murders but it's probably a possibility he could be the guy. Maybe we'll never know for sure though.

[@vitorcarvalho9616]

The guy is called russell ellwood and he was arrested

[@hittrewweuy7595]

I listen Howard every once in a while and this call was the best call I e ever heard in his show , Howard is such a pro ,he asked all the right questions and even tho he wanted the killer to either kill himself or give himself up ,he still treated the caller like another human and even joked with him

[@LelantusCentral]

Any real fan who ever listened to Howard Stern back then would know that Howard wasn't faking it and that people of that nature would call the show to speak to him.

[@iahelcathartesaura3887]

This guy is slightly breathless when he gets to the point of talking about the black police officer, and sniggering, Sounds like he's likely walking outfoors while talking at that point? Or possibly doing ahem something else while talking and exposing himself about his crimes. As a massage therapist for two decades, we were taught and learned from experience how to notice someone masturbating on the phone while they're trying to make an illegitimate appointment. The language, slightly hesitant/delayed answers, slightly breathless speech. (That only happened for me two or three times, and I inform them I don't provide the type of service they're looking for, just hung up on them, recorded their number then blocked it basically. And was grateful to my teachers for teaching me to listen almost microscopically for those things!)

[@bridgethockney2303]

I totally agree with you and noticed it immediately too. I worked at a crisis line for 8 years and you just know. He totally sounds like he's busy.

[@GoldenBred]

He MIGHT be gay

[@hate6crew6death6roll]

@@GoldenBred Yup, this is what a set of religious parents does can do to a normal kid (not this guy tho, he killed before puberty even), that is, like everyone else, unique to themselves and the parents likely would shame/disown ya (especially around this era when this call would've happened) Shame is the ultimate tool for any belief system of a higher power.

[@s.stinnett3972]

I used to be a phone sex worker & we used to call guys like that “jacks” because they’re doing their thing trying to get off before we collected payment info.

[@hate6crew6death6roll]

@@GoldenBred didn't i reply to this comment? i can't see it and the new comment brought me back but can't see it even, says 4 replies, will be 5 now, wonder why, i don't think i said anything crazy?

[@ShrekThaOGEE]

Clay said so many things that would have made catching him a LOT easier if anyone gave an extra damn .. brother literally said “someone said they knew it was me as a joke” as if that same guy wouldn’t also remember that moment along with recognizing that voice

[@dandavis8300]

Yeah, he mentioned killing a rat that got into the kitchen where he worked after a flood, so I guess he worked in a restaurant. But I think it was a hoax.

[@deathseekr1537]

For a bit after "is this howard?" He sounded so panicked like "wait this is howard, the live podcast guy"

[@JoeyLawless-lo4jo]

3:00 why she look like Quinton Tarantino

[@nikaylafleming]

AAAHHHH they’re identical

[@god_str1k3psn94]

😂 I didn’t even need the time stamp I knew as soon as I read it

[@Zôfiëmakeup]

Omg! I can’t imagen getting that call! Robin was so smart with her questions. Whenever Howard insulted him I was so scared it would cause the caller to hang up.

[@JonOnFilm]

Was always surprised by this call; I remember hearing this back in the day and being super afraid.

[@Pb20441]

Howard Stern was EXCELLENT. Remained calm, none judgmental, showed interest. The more he can get the dude at ease the more he may trip up and expose info that will help get him.

[@a.s.8632]

Wow. If this interview is real, which I do think this one is; it is an amazing resource for forensic psychology. Good video! Thanks for getting this footage and sharing.

[@a.s.8632]

Whoever timed the subtitling kind of shat the bed around the 20 minute plus mark though... XD