Range Rover Evoque Timing Codes P0016 and P0017

[@DTEAuto]

Nice diag! Had quite a few of these to the point I know the crank wire color in that loom up by the valve cover. Quick tip, there is a timing relearn function that needs performed after any timing work, crank pulley work, ckp rr, and engine replacement. If not performed it will show timing codes like you had even though it is physically set correctly.... I almost thought that's where this one was going 😂😂. Thanks for sharing

[@autodiagyt]

Yeah I tried doing the relearn and nope lol

[@DTEAuto]

@@autodiagyt Nice! Well there you go, if it doesn't go away with the relearn then you can confirm there's a physical misalignment

[@chrisbrown1721]

I am having the same issue with both codes but I rebuilt the complete engine due to the service bulletin. After resetting the timing twice, still both codes are popping up. I figured the system had to relearn itself but did not know about the "timing relearn function." If you don't mind me asking where did you find the relearn at? Or did you take to the dealer to reset? That was my final step.

[@loyloy512]

Can you share what the relearn procedure is?

[@autodiagyt]

@@loyloy512 it’s a scan tool function

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Excellent thought process in this diagnostic, Jake! Weird thing with the graphed data on the scantool - you're probably right, and it's reporting substituted values. What's impressive is the engine running smooth with all that carnage inside.

[@patriciathompson677]

Thx for sharing. My land rover is definitely doing the same thing

[@fredautos]

Great Diagnosis Jake. Thanks for sharing

[@hoangphucle9088]

thank you for sharing this video please let me know after repair the position of the 2 camshafts read how much because my car is also stuck at level 8 at the intake cam and 11 at the exhaust cam thank you very much

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

Yup. The reluctor, pulley and sensor all require a special tool to set everything correctly. And yup that crank pulley has no key way. Can't tell you how many times I've had to fix these by checking that. I had a guy completely remove the crank bolt having no idea what he did. And of course I had to re-time it.

[@ysitrim88]

Great diagnostic video. Thanks.

[@jonathanclark7155]

Yep, did a cylinder head job on a 2019 ford mustang 2.3L, had to buy the timing tools for the chain and crank sensor. You gotta remove a bolt from the block, insert the crank locking tool, spin engine till it stops on the lock, remove valve cover and make sure the cams are both inline and you can slide the flat locker in the back on the cams. Terrible design, once you remove the crank pulley, the timing is immediately out.

[@CajunShrek]

I have the blue driver which I can do mods 6 parameters I can get codes from most modules I can read built date of the vehicle and the true odometer also see how long also can see how long the vehicle ran since last code clear. It's quite handy when you searching for a vehicle because anytime you plug it in and it has the ability to record that section

[@ibrahimwaheed987]

Great diag jake

[@jamiemurphy6644]

Hi jake great diagnosis on this...i said that you might be the only man that knows this ..i have a evoque in the shop at the minute ..my mirror folding function when you lock the car is not working is there a reset / configuration in the topdon??..i have done a manual reset to no avail..thank you

[@autodiagyt]

I honestly don’t know. Id have to read service information to see what controls the function and see if something turned it off or if there is a fault that’s keeping it from working.

[@jamiemurphy6644]

Thank you for your reply jake ..I'll keep you posted on the repair...

[@thesmartguy3523]

Hi mate, are you sure the Seat memory control is working correctly first of all ? As the mirror folding function is through this module, try this - Sit in driver's seat, then put vehicle in park, press the fold button, followed by the M button, then the 1st memory seat position. If still doesn't work, you may need to do a thorough diagnosis first and/or edit the options of the vehicle configuration using SDD or similar

[@luiscruz-no3ib]

Ford had a problem with the cam actuators that you can see the spring the 😮new ones are sealed

[@automentorlk]

It's a nice diagnostics.

[@kyletuttle9064]

Cool diag Jake always enjoy your videos.

[@DuaneDonaldson]

You have 6* per tooth which is correct for a 60-2 tooth reluctor wheel and a possible jumped 1 tooth mechanical timing of about 15*, you measured 18*. I did not notice that the shop gave you any actual mechanical timing info of maybe 1 jumped tooth but this repair is what I would have inspected and found also, thanks for that follow-up on the actual malfunction. I know it's hard to get back to a job at a shop but a confirmation waveform would have been nice even you gave us a known good from PICO. How did the shop know the timing was exact, can they share a waveform with you to post? cheers.

[@autodiagyt]

Car was gone already and the timing pids in the scan tool was correct and working after the repairs.

[@razimanmohdrashid7218]

@@autodiagytdoes that means the camshaft position sensor reading is the same after parts replacement?

[@robertmobileman8304]

Nice one Jake, cam phasers issue for sure , garbage engines

[@NoName-yr1jv]

Well done 👍

[@amarabdelli487]

Thanks for sharing

[@davidbibra6975]

Done timing chain and phasers on one of these recently exact same thing broke

[@saiautorepairs]

Great video. What Boroscope brand is the one you were using ??

[@autodiagyt]

Teslong I can’t remember the model number but it’s on the Amazon link in the description. Is a good tool, I use it all the time.

[@solarvacuumtube]

great video, how much to replace evrything?

[@autodiagyt]

I have no idea.

[@solarvacuumtube]

@@autodiagyt Thank You

[@paulspeller968]

wow that’s pretty lucky there was not more damage if that chain had bust . pretty interesting how there was not so much rattling about in there . 🤪

[@eddiereichel9354]

I dont know specifically on that exact engine but I know fords dont have any key way or pin on crank or cams. I put an engine in a Fusion one time. Service infor said take it out the bottom. Im like fuck Ill pull off that balancer and pull it out the top. When I was installing the converter bolts It went clunk rolling over with ratchet. That was the day I found out that fords dont have keyways.

[@magid5441]

Hi Jake.. Isn't better check it with disconnected vvti selenoid

[@autodiagyt]

Since the ECM isn't commanding any movement then it's not necessary. It's also important to take your capture how your known good was taken.

[@moonmullen18]

I did one intake phaser came apart broke the end of the cam off replace cam and all timing components locking everything need still have p0016. Code do I need to tear it backdown cause it really sucks did try more crank trigger didn’t help it runs fine . No relearn mode for cam I swear everything was exactly where it needed to be. need help

[@autodiagyt]

I would start fresh with a cam and crank waveform and compare it to a known good.

[@CajunShrek]

Yeah I really hate how that commercial advertisers the bias against mechanics! That fixd crap! All that does is give you generic OBD2 codes that that will not give you OEM specific codes set this device is not capable of!

[@GregoryBirulkin]

Does the correlation change with the picoscope? When engine is running.

[@autodiagyt]

No

[@GregoryBirulkin]

@@autodiagyt thank you.

[@Santiago_Ordonez_]

Nice. 👌

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

You've gotta clear the codes before the variable timing will send any command.

[@paulburroughs1313]

A Landrover with a Ford engine. It just doesn't get any better than that.

[@GroundedDiagnostics]

😊😊👍👍

[@EsssTeeeBeee]

Great Video as always, but it’s a Range Rover, not a Land Rover.

[@autodiagyt]

Is Land Rover not the Make and Range Rover Evoque the Model?

[@TalyerMotorsph]

Great Vids! Can you please make a vid on tapdon scope tutorial

[@luigigonzalez5062]

😱 the Fixd can't fix it 😱 but the adds looks so real, the mechanics just trying to rip you off by charging you a lot of money , so they can afford those expensive and fancy big scan tools that gives you the exact same code 🤔 something is not right, the world is not making sense 😮😂😂😂

[@autodiagyt]

Crazy isn't it!

[@jameslewis1175]

Great vid but was i the only one saw the explosion on the head liner?

[@bas2876]

It's a common failure on these engines, allways the phasers!

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

It's funny. As a tech I had the same thought as I began to watch. It's a glorified Ford. I've worked on enough of them.

[@chrisi1909]

Coke Erruption on the Back Roof Liner ? I would go crazy seeing this every day in the Rear View Mirror.....People....

[@autodiagyt]

Yeah same lol

[@bernardaflores1720]

Ford quality and just like Ford's in order to clear the codes properly you might have to clear the live memory. Ford's are picky!

[@greggc8088]

17 degrees is about a tooth. Sucks.

[@calholli]

These phasors die to easily. I wish they would move on to a better design.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

No keyway is no good! Bad design.

[@thespammerhammer]

Matching your scope image to two that I have, the crank should be two more teeth to the left. My images counts 9. Between both your scopes, the images are different. Both are out of sync. Believe in live data and an in cylinder pressure transducer test while aligning the pressure waves, will tell that truth with the 0 to 720 degree markers. Pico has that function. Every time you stop / start the engine, the chain un-syncs because of internal damage. I found two to match, one being 2013 ESCAPE 2.0 CAM CRK and both match my second image 2011 - 2018 Range Rover Evoque 2.0L L538