Ranking Every Mangekyō Sharingan from Weakest to Strongest

[@FireBoy332]

Obito’s ms was so broken they needed to split it between two people

[@gameuniverse5973]

It was so broken it was still useful even after god chars were introduced

[@gnooshguhh]

Dude could’ve used susanoo with kamui shurikens without any EMS if kakashi didn’t have the other one. Considering obito’s stupid durability it wouldn’t even do anyth

[@FireBoy332]

@@gnooshguhh idk why he didn’t take it back maybe cause he wanted to use izanagi

[@kodoqbesar4301]

Obito with both Kamui, with Perfect Susanoo would probably be stronger than Hashirama. Raw power + hax

[@inmybestdaysidontdocrack]

@@FireBoy332cause he considered it a gift to kakashi, and even after switching sides he respected what he did

[@saradaharunoofthesharingan1028]

Obito's MS ability was so hax that Kishimoto literally took one of them away for the majority of the series and didn't allow Obito to get them both back together until the final villain appeared 😭

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

*Tsukoyomi doesn't require eye contact!* The First time we see Tsukoyomi, in part 1 of Naruto, Itachi uses it on Kakashi without eye contact. He just moved a finger and Kakashi is trapped.

[@terriblegaming2113]

@@MMAli-rq8kd no one asked

[@Phil_3491]

@@MMAli-rq8kd Are you mental?

[@dooplets._.5776]

@@MMAli-rq8kd not necessarily, plus the amount of times stuff from part one that gets retconned really makes stuff like that kinda iffy lol.

[@snowboundwhale6860]

@@MMAli-rq8kd In part 1 I thought it was that Kakashi _was_ making eye contact specifically using his sharingan, expecting it to be able to counter genjutsu, and didn't know about Tsukuyomi at the time.

[@bradleybabilino6331]

I always find it so funny that Obito was made fun of as a kid and considered weak but he literally held one of the greatest powers in the whole series lol

[@DaddyDagoth]

The Uchiha Naruto. Naruto was in the same boat and then became Jesus Christ.

[@cloaks.nimbus]

Bro if u really look into it deeply.. U will know that.. Obito was not weak as a child.. See.. He jst used to compare himself to kakashi all the time.. He was made fun of.. Bcs he used to lose to kakashi.. Who was a prodigy.. But u see.. Obito's firestyle jutsu was even bigger nd better than itachi's nd sasuke's... Nd he was competing with a prodigy.. While not being a prodigy... Well.. Obito later became a God.. Then kakashi was a mere child in front of him🤦‍♀️😎😎

[@CODA96]

@@DaddyDagoth lmao nobody can take this story serious in any way. Naruto went from bullied child that wanted to overcome his obstacles into the reincarnation of holy chakra jesus, the chosen one with inherited chakra from his parents who were considered one of the strongest ninja to ever exist, his dad literally was hokage, he was trained by a sennin and anchient holy goad toads to learn a technique almost nobody else could master - but its a story about overcoming obstacles, right? BELIEVE IT

[@crimson7488]

@@CODA96I mean they’re not gonna make a story on some average person who has little to no potential especially in a shonen where the MC is meant to be some damn prophecy child who becomes the strongest.

[@CODA96]

@@crimson7488 Not really. JoJo is also a shounen and doesnt feature a child of prodigy. Making your character the strongest, without flaws and faults just makes him more unbelievable.

[@gibletextrusion758]

I think a "what if Obito kept both his eyes" video would be an interesting topic to talk about

[@gameuniverse5973]

Obito wins there you go

[@CH1LLS.]

He'd be way too O.P. Both his eyes and Hashirama cells would make him unstoppable

[@terriblegaming2113]

Yeh for sure 👏

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@CH1LLS. Obito might beat Minato he would just long kamui Minato Kunai

[@kodoqbesar4301]

Obito would low diffed Minato (assuming Obito had unlocked his Susanoo, and without the Susanoo, Kamui is very broken), and probably could gather all the Bijuus all by himself and only needs Nagato to revive Madara

[@Heddomasuta]

I thought I was the only one who noticed Shisuis different abilities for his MS.

[@prismssj8532]

I linked his Mangekyo differences like how Obito's are the same but used differently Sadly straightforward

[@gameuniverse5973]

It seems like itachi got the longer cool down one

[@mihailmilev9909]

I still don't realize

[@Karlwasright]

Makes perfect sense

[@NECROcade]

@@gameuniverse5973 i think he just got a weaker version or one with more charge time/recoil due to how UNBELIEVABLY BROKEN TSUKUYOMI IS, i feel like one sharingan ability is always waaaaaaay stronger, while the other hurts the fuck out the person who uses it or leaves them wide open

[@YounesLayachi]

12:30 kotoamatsukami didn't specifically order Itachi to go to kabuto and stop Edo tensei. It ordered him to protect konoha which gives Itachi freedom to interpret that order as he honestly believes it to be. Itachi is smart and so the order works without the need to get into the details

[@moe5177]

You just- You just said exactly the same thing he did…

[@YounesLayachi]

@@moe5177 it's a nuance. Swag attributes kotoamatsukami's success to its "flexibility", meanwhile I say it's not really an attribute of the jutsu itself. Itachi just programmed a really vague command and trusted the victim of the jutsu to make best use of it. This doesn't mean the jutsu is weaker than what swag portrays it to be -- it's still a very powerful genjutsu and the crux of it relies on convincing the target to take action instead of directly controlling them like a mindless zombie. I quote "the eye could have compelled him to mindlessly patrol konoha, instead it ordered him to do something more urgent and less obvious ie stop kabuto's edo tensei." Neither the eye nor itachi during his life could have predicted when or how the jursu would trigger. *The eye did not order Itachi to stop kabuto. Edo Itachi decided that by himself,* after analysing the war situation he was summoned into.

[@YounesLayachi]

@@moe5177 funnily enough, if you pause right at 12:30 you can see Itachi himself say "(translated) this jutsu orders me to protect konoha" So it's pretty clear the jutsu did not order him to stop kabuto

[@dilsher2010]

@@YounesLayachi I mean basically That eye gave Itachi his own consciousness because Itachi always wanted to protect the village LoL you understand what I'm trying to say? Like if Itachi was under kabuto's control he would have done the same Once again Itachi casually being the epitome of Uno reverse card 😂

[@YounesLayachi]

@@dilsher2010 yes I agree

[@海原星一-y3t]

12:42 I doubt Shisui himself would be limited by the 10 years cooldown. His genjutsu was well-known, it wouldn’t make sense if he only got to use it every 10 years. I also think having both eyes would significantly lower the cooldown. Just like how having both eyes significantly buff the power and speed of Kamui.

[@Supahdenning]

And the stamina drain would be substantially lower, which the cooldown would probably be associated with.

[@josephrogers3666]

The fact that there is a time limit at all would suggest there was one just shorter cos kakashi never had one so probably unique to shisui eyes

[@1234andrewjacksmith]

Based on the fact Shisui thought he could use it on the entire Uchiha clan and was know to use it, it probably had a lot shorter cool down time(due to 1. him being the natural user and 2. having both eyes), similar to how Kakashi has a much much higher cost to using it at all

[@YounesLayachi]

Exactly

[@Kaynster]

yeah, shisui unlocked it at 7 and died when he was around 16ish. The cooldown simply makes no god damn sense considering he would only have been able to use it twice max.

[@WolfFlow78]

I always thought Shisui's eyes could be used multiple times without the 10 years restriction. The 10 years restriction applies to people who aren't Shisui, and Hashirama cells help reduces that restriction.

[@UndeadJester049]

Shisui didn't have a big cooldown, but most people forget that.

[@Rck-vert]

Wasn’t stated wether or not Shisui had d cool down, that’s just head cannon

[@UndeadJester049]

@@Rck-vert I never said he didn't have one just it'd obviously be way lower then 10 years because that's for a normal person using it not the guy who it was literally made for.

[@sageof6pandas233]

@@Rck-vert The only person who really mentions it is danzo, and I believe in this scenario he is an unreliable narrator.

[@quentinjones6877]

Yeah Danzo with Hashirama cells could use Shisui's eye once a day

[@evodolka]

Personally I think madara's should have been future sight, not only does it still fit the eye based power, but it would also explain how he was able to plan ahead like he did, it would make the whole "I planned all of this" be less of an ass pull

[@kasasukar6545]

No You are delusional

[@evodolka]

@@kasasukar6545 to each their own i guess

[@elite_rock_god2292]

I honestly Kinda agree with this. Just give him like "foresight" or something with his MS and then The EMS and later rinnegan just enchaned it. Hate The fact madara was able to predict pretty much The ENTIRE SHOW and The only reason we get to this is "I planned it" 🤣

[@evodolka]

@@elite_rock_god2292 RIGHT? future sight would explain the bullshit a little more, plus the idea of Rinnegon amplifying it would explain how he could see DECADES into the future, i like it better than "it just went the way he planned on a whim"

[@elite_rock_god2292]

@@evodolka for real there is alot of ways to have this make more sense as well. The EMS and rinnegan enchanced his abilites of foresight, The hashirama cells and The tree he was plugged into enchanced it into seeing The past as well with kaguya or some shit, his super old age and mastery of his sharingan made him see possible outcomes, like just make it better then "I planned EVERYTHING! Oh 60-70 years of wars, peace, ups and downs? Ye I planned that. Oh removing a seal i placed on your heart by having your heart obliterated to break free from my control? Ye I planned that. Oh kakashi killed rin? Ye I planned that just in time for you to see it. Oh a young easy to manipulate Uchiha randomly found his way into my cavern after he dident die from a huge boulder? Ye I planned that." Like wtf when does it end!?🤣 im not asking for much here just have it make sense!!!

[@JIJCrow]

I have no problem believing that Obito could've been Hokage if it wasn't for the rock accident

[@Kaynster]

I do. Obito only got so strong because of kamui and hashirama cells. Without hashirama cells, obito would only be able to use kamui a handful of times. We see this in the Kakashi Obito fight during the war arc. Kakashi and a hashirama cell and Rinnegan buffed Obito are at least comparable in power (though it did look like Obito had the upper hand throughout the fight and only lost that upperhand because Kakashi is just straight up more intelligent). But again, the second Obito stops relying on Kamui, He is only Kakashi level or slightly above that even with Rinnegan and Hashirama cell buffs. So all in all, Obito would probably never become kage level. Jonin level? Probably. But he would still get his shit rocked by any actual S-Rank Ninja. Obito wasnt a secret prodigy like Naruto was, Obito was an actual honest go god dead last with barely any potential. And that is the difference between them. Obito is not “Naruto but evil”, Obito is Naruto without the ability to become great. Obito is Naruto if he was a failure. Tl;dr: Obito would not be able to spam kamui and would not have Hashi cells and the rinnegan, and is therefore fodder.

[@dhruv9744]

@@Kaynster dude anyone with an instant kill button is OP bro. He would have gone down as a legendary shinobi who's really dangerous. Definetly S rank, plus he has all the other abilities granted by the Sharingan. By your logic all Uchiha's r stuck because mangekyo is a b*tch to your chakra, but shinobi like Itachi and Shisui were able to become kage level ninja despite the chakra limitations. Obito's mangekyo is just so broken its ridiculous. He definetly would be S rank and would quality for Hokage in terms of feats.

[@JIJCrow]

@@Kaynster Obito's sharingan is a god level one,only dimension shifting abilities in Naruto are all possessed by god level characters with the exception of flying rajin which was invented by Tobirama and made Minato 4th Hokage, Obito's Kamui and his incredibly strong genjutsu he placed on the 4th mizukage would make him above S-Rank.Kamui has 2 abilities,one is involved with opening a dimension and one with transporting parts of the body to escape attack,the one that Obito would not spam is of opening dimensions, the one of transporting parts of the body is just like Itachi's Tsukuyomi,it doesn't take that much chakra as amaterasu did on Itachi but it's still a perfect defense jutsu,as perfecttly defense as Amaterasu is perfectly offense.Obito was no genius yes but he was still above and beyond a hardworking ninja with great potential and the likes of Naruto and Might Guy show hardwork and great potential are the recipe to make one a god level not S-rank but god level ninja,and with Obito's Kamui alone,he would be what Sasuke was with his Rinnegan

[@spicydiarrhea5662]

yeah, just don't get stoned and good job will be there for you

[@spicydiarrhea5662]

@@JIJCrow obito is poo, madara said he regrets having obito and wished he encountered sasuke during the war

[@dragonknight1560]

This was a great list! Also Merry Christmas to Swag for even making this video! Thank you!

[@mr.obvious9246]

You should do a smartest character tier list. I'm glad you're still posting :)

[@gameuniverse5973]

S+:Black zetsu the biggest brain in all of Naruto no one was able to figure him out even hagoromo as a chakra ghost dint know about him

[@blueblade6174]

@@gameuniverse5973 that's not exactly all his intelligence. His anonymity comes from his unique abilities and circumstance, and that gave him the advantage to manipulate history. Other characters in the same position could do just as well if not better.

[@Rck-vert]

@@gameuniverse5973 Hagaromo as a chakra ghost literally spoke about black Zetsu manipulating the stone he left behind. Which means he knows about him

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@Rck-vert he only said it after black zetsu revealed himself so he link the dots on what Madara was thinking he doing also of he did know he before that he would have told Naruto with Sasuke to watch out

[@yeetus8870]

Characters like Shikamaru, Shikaku, Tobirama senju, Minato, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Kakashi, Jiraiya would be on the list

[@andreware2039]

It's funny how Madara was already too broken to get a mangekyo specific ability and Obito had two pro-active nerfs placed on him up until his death to truly be considered broken 😅

[@kasasukar6545]

Even madara all version cant touch obito

[@patrickc4381]

Should be acknowledged tho that Kakashi eventually gained a higher tolerance of using Kamui. He was able to use it way more often in the war arc than he was able to before

[@BlackKnightsCommander]

He straight up said that in the long range Kamui section.

[@patrickc4381]

@@BlackKnightsCommander Might've just missed that then

[@raiden3013]

thats because he was getting his chakra restored by naruto. it amped him by 3 times

[@patrickc4381]

@@raiden3013 True but before he would literally die from using it just 2-3 times. When he used it on Deidara it took him like 5 mins to use it even once.I think eventually he was able to do better than that at the very least even without Naruto's Chakra boost playing into it, no?

[@ajayrathore8704]

​@@patrickc4381 no he was blasting it was shown as 5 minutes but the blast would have been go.off in seconds.

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

Didn’t the crow require eye contact with Itachi because he programmed Kotoamtsukami to go off upon seeing Itachi’s sharingan (which he planned to be in Sasuke’s eyes when Sasuke went to get revenge against the leaf)

[@CH1LLS.]

Yeah. The only time we see that eye perform kotoamtsukami is when it made eye contact with itachi, so everyone just assumes that eye contact is a requirement

[@yaredterefe1508]

What is weird about this is that, even though he loved his brother so much he still had a plan to protect the leaf from him 😄

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

Exactly !

[@adesolao.2585]

@@yaredterefe1508 i think this was extremely well thought out on kishimotos part

[@josephrogers3666]

I mean you can’t prove that it can be used without eye contact when it’s not stated nor used without it ?

[@dooplets._.5776]

The uptick in all my favorite KZbinrs posting around this time is truly the best present I could ask for

[@BankBryee]

Christmas gifts ain’t gon buy themselves

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Sharingan

[@tevinvezina1766]

Ad revenue is the highest during the holiday season.

[@nonhumanperson9362]

They hold out a lot of their best content until December cause it pays out better for some weird youtube reason.

[@dooplets._.5776]

@@SpammytheHedgehog you.... What?

[@dylanaruto20]

I haven't watched the full video but Kamui has to be the best one.

[@prismssj8532]

Fr, anything involving intangibility and ignores defense is gonna at least be higher tier

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

It's trash. Genjutsu still works

[@gameuniverse5973]

Kamui is broken way to broken there a reason why both eyes were separated until the end when god beings were around

[@terriblegaming2113]

@@bjrnthebootybandit lmao cry Itachi fankid 😂😂

[@terriblegaming2113]

@@gameuniverse5973 even after that they nerfed obito by saying that he is drained bcz of tentails extraction but that nerf still wasn't enough . They nerfed obito again when he uses kamui to find sasuke like wtf how many times you have to nerf him lmao . Thats still wasn't enough for them . Then they killed obito so that he won't destroy boruto villians 😂

[@cynthatic6590]

Even though shisui’s left eye had a ten year cooldown, it was still powerful enough to make your strongest enemy your ally and you could take over any nation you wanted.

[@cynthatic6590]

btw its not stated that shisui had the 10 year cooldown, its only stated that other people would have the huge cooldown.Same goes for the right eye.😊

[@elite_rock_god2292]

@@cynthatic6590 ye I feel that The 10 year CD on The eye The crow used was a thing cause it was used BY A FUCKING CROW that has no chakra to help replenish The chakra in The eye 🤣

[@DaddyDagoth]

Shisui's Koto is litearlly Kisimoto's pen as a power. It could make anyonde do whatever at any point.

[@Bloopergrandson1]

That broken eye power is the reason some characters were written off during the War Arc like Shisui. Kabuto mentioned that he could resurrect Shisui if he could find his eye that Danzo took from Shisui. It was very smart for Obito to keep Danzo body away from Kabuto imagine if he got some DNA from Shisui and revived him.

[@gizel4376]

@@Bloopergrandson1 like what a shisui that have unlimited chakra and can spam kotoamatsu

[@Thotlogy]

Nobody thinks it’s weird that Obito lost his kamui when he became the ten-tails but ten tails Madara was able to use it just fine when he took Kakashi’s eye…

[@gameuniverse5973]

Quess you can argue Kakashi works differently that why

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

Welp, they had to nerf him somehow

[@meandmadarastwogiantballsa5638]

nerf no jutsu! there's really no reasonable explanation, they just realized he'd be too op. these theories the fans are coming up with just aren't supported by the things in canon lol

[@Synthwave89]

@Jon Miller There is zero evidence that the ten tails is the reason he "couldn't" pass through things. the fact Madara could use the kamui it is proof of that, and there is no reason he could arbitrarily still use a part of kamui and not another.

[@Boggity]

@@Synthwave89 i could be wrong its been awhile since I watched the arc but I am pretty sure obito self monologues that he can't pass through things because of the 10 tails

[@NevaFN]

There is not a single KZbinr anymore other than Swag that just makes me genuinely excited to sit down and watch a video.

[@DrNasrooo]

To this day, I feel like I'm the only one to interpret that Madara sequence from Storm Generation as just the Sharingan's ability to predict the opponent's movement and anticipate trajectories.

[@Necromancer4267]

I also believe that to be the case.

[@ThomasOwOD]

That's too basic tbh, like undying flames, access to a pocket dimension, an unbreakable illusion, that doesn't really fit within the natural mangekyo abilities tbh

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

That's a great point, but sounds like basic Sharingan!

[@DrNasrooo]

@@ThomasOwOD I never said it was his mangekyo ability

[@ThomasOwOD]

@@DrNasrooo cmon man, that was implied, he had his mangekyo activated in that scene

[@legend1756]

But doesn't the 10 year cool down only apply to everyone else who isn't Shisui?

[@aliceDarts]

No, it is just Shisui.

[@marcoskrinjar1084]

@@aliceDarts it was everyone just no on else used the eye. Danzo himself stated that he only could use it because of the hashirama cell.s

[@zachmoore3997]

@@marcoskrinjar1084 I think he just didn’t realize there were two different abilities per eye and that while it did have a cool down it wasn’t ten years for that specific eye

[@zachmoore3997]

@@marcoskrinjar1084 and I’m talking about danzos statement I do believe both eyes have cooldowns no matter who uses them I jus think they have different cooldowns

[@YounesLayachi]

Does the crow have hashirama cells ? No

[@blueblade6174]

I'd actually really like to see you make a video fully dedicated to Madara's unique MS ability. I hope you make it!

[@_wolfynstine]

What ability though? He doesn’t have one :/ not canon anyway

[@lordescanor1365]

@@_wolfynstine His limbo clones are one of his eye abilities. The second one is up in the air though with it only being shown in a game so it’s tricky to say it’s canon

[@kakamaru5]

@@lordescanor1365 Limbo is one of Madara's unique Rinnegan abilities. Same way Sasuke's Space-Time ninjutsu is his.

[@_wolfynstine]

@@lordescanor1365 his limbo clones are for his Rinnegan, not his ms. Neither of his ms abilities are shown in confirmed canon stuff, although there is the game one about turning back time. Which would be sick, but it goes unconfirmed as a lot of the game scenes aren’t considered canon 😭

[@pedroaldrete2994]

@@kakamaru5is there any evidence to suggest that rinnegan users have unique abilites? Isn’t it more likely that it is in fact his MS ability?

[@Xiuhcoatl_]

Y'all sleeping on Jirobo's MS ability to skip rocks on a multi-continental level.

[@slickricky769]

dude Obito's mangekyos are so busted that his weakest eye is third on the list and first one the list

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Imagine a Mangekyō Sharingan that can stop time.

[@kakashi6957]

I think that was storm 4's Madara sharingan ability

[@dylanaruto20]

Maybe Sarada can have that one

[@gustavomagadan6331]

@@kakashi6957 what? No it wasnt

[@MasiVilla33]

Za warudooooooo

[@gameuniverse5973]

Madara game Ms was able to rewind time also Momoshiki kinda stops time so

[@Heddomasuta]

For Shins MS ability, the best thing about it is that it is able to paralyze people to some degree. He did it to Sasuke and Sakura

[@gameuniverse5973]

Shin other Ms ability literally allows him to travel between dimensions that busted kamui only transport you to one dimension with it being need to link to Kaguya portals to go to others and it stated it takes alot of Charkra for Rinnegan users to go through dimensions

[@mannyw_]

@@gameuniverse5973 Does Shin's MS ability allow you to travel to other dimensions or within a single dimension? If memory serves, Shin only used his MS to go between his hideout and the land of fire

[@shdhfhchxjxjxjxjxjjjdjdjdj6858]

Oh my he was able to paralyze uselessness? It must be so strong.

[@Necromancer4267]

@@gameuniverse5973 Shin's MS never does that, the little weird monster thing's does.

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

@@Necromancer4267 little weird monster thing?

[@leonardoospino3497]

I always wondered what Madara's mangekyo ability was, no wonder they never let him use it, a time stop would be an insta win button, also the idea of Obito perfect Susano with kamui shuriken's terrifies me

[@elite_rock_god2292]

Bro imagine If sasuke got the kamui, and when his susano fused with narutos kurama avatar they have taild beast kamui bombs... insta kill the whole universe🤣

[@thewind652]

@@elite_rock_god2292 otsutski who?

[@atox726]

If i am not wrong he can see like 2 seconds into the future

[@elite_rock_god2292]

@@atox726 then how did he predict like 80 years forward and see 2000+ years backwards???🤣

[@poodie3887]

@@elite_rock_god2292sasuke don’t deserve kamui 😂

[@jesuspernia8031]

Obito’s is easily at the top. That shit never gave him bloody eyes and never wore out. OP as fuck.

[@65firered]

The fact that a jutsu any jutsu could be "too fair" really highlights how broken the magic system is.

[@CommentPositionInformer]

That's a problem with magic in general. When the only limits to a power is "cost" and "skill", you bet some big ass power creep is about to happen.

[@troglodytezero1697]

What's funny is in the beginning they set up rules and try to have some balance. Unfortunately in fantasy stories like this rules get in the way and they break them.

[@YounesLayachi]

Keep in mind that the "long range" kamui can also teleport its user and teleport other people (safely) into and out of kamui dimension. What it can't do is phase through things (intangibility). We should probably refer to them as "offensive" and "defensive" (granted, people who get teleported into kamui dimension by obito are stuck there but that's not inherently offensive, since they don't die or take damage from being teleported. Obito is just crafty and can also use his kamui to enhance other jutsu like his katon: bafukū ranbu)

[@DaddyDagoth]

I agree, especially considering that long range (offensive) could teleport parts off people and thigs and thus inflicting mortal wounds if needed. Short range Kamui seemed to only transport people and things in their full form, not hacking parts of them off.

[@BhBc8f8]

Wouldn't they eventually die of dehydration

[@cloaks.nimbus]

Nope.. Other kamui eye can only transfer objects.. U see madara was able to transport himself.. Bcs madara had limbo... Madara used kamui to track kamui dimension.. Then he went there with limbo while using kamui

[@YounesLayachi]

@@cloaks.nimbus Kakashi warped himself multiple times using "his" eye, and he also warped other people : Bee + hachibi, sakura and naruto. Madara warped himself using kakashi's eye. Both kamui eyes can warp the user and any person very close by. Obito's eye care additionally phase through stuff, fully or partially. Kakashi's eye can additionally warp people and things at a distance, fully or partially. It was never once shown that obito's kamui could inflict harm on anything directly. Obito always warped other people and things fully. While kakashi can partially warp other people and things, damaging them : deidara's arm, gedō mazō's shoulder, hachibi's tails, rabbit jyuubi's tails, madara's gudōdama shield...) Madara did not use limbo clones to warp , and why should he ? He doesn't need them, since he can simply warp himself using kakashi's eye. Moreover, he couldn't use limbo at that time. All his limbo clones were sealed or busy fighting naruto, he had none left on him, and he was very far away from him clones. If the limbo clones could use jutsu, doryoku or any ability at all, we would have seen it, but they didn't, so they can't. They can only fly and throw punches.

[@cloaks.nimbus]

@@YounesLayachi actually I was explaining how cud madara teleport himself to kamui.. When that eye cud only transfer objects not the user himself.. Nd obito only said that he cud not phase through objects.. Bcs he had ten tails inside him.. Doesn't mean he cud not teleport himself using kamui... So obito cud also teleport himself.. But he cud not phase through attacks as ten tails was inside him

[@Daniel-ld5im]

If Obito had both of his MS from the beginning, the war would have ended very differently.

[@jacobjensen7704]

Considering Sasuke ended up with one Rinnegan eye and one Sharingan eye, I think it’s fair that he could use his Sharingan eye to use both MS abilities. I also think they didn’t want to take away Sasuke’s ability to use his MS abilities, they just wanted to take away some stats and Amenotejikari, so they made it so he could use both abilities out of his Sharingan eye.

[@zenuchiha7363]

but we see him still be able to use his sharingan abilitiy through his rinnegan they just switched up in boruto

[@jacobjensen7704]

@@zenuchiha7363 we see him use both eyes in Boruto too.

[@BhBc8f8]

Nah using one eye for both abilities is a deus ex machina but retaining ms abilities after rinnegan upgrade does make sense. Madara using susaso without eyes however is a little sus

[@paulsvensson6948]

@@BhBc8f8 But is it fully explained what EMS actually do? Because Itachi had Amaterasu on his right eye, which Sasuke implanted to get EMS. What if EMS can make use of both characters' abilities? That would explain why his right eye could use Amaterasu and then control it through his own ability.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@paulsvensson6948 Then why did he never do it against his opponents and when he does it now he's not even suprised that he could it.

[@Iso_SSB]

Swag definitely has the highest quality Naruto content on KZbin

[@stonemims159]

I see you haven’t heard of hotboyspicy

[@thtanonymousboy4992]

@@stonemims159 fr fr

[@Zarqzy]

Shisuis mgs was only able to be activated once every ten years because it was transplanted in a crow, and after being used needed time to recover due to the small amount of chakra. Shisui however could use his eye multiple times without any recover period

[@yoursteak5215]

My brothers, we must vote the Ramen Guy as the #1 most voted in the poll.

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

Fake fan, doesn't even know his name, smh

[@ShonenGoon]

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction his name is madara uchiha now go vote him

[@redfury6410]

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Teuchi Ichiraku

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

We need a "which character lost this poll?" poll

[@shathaan1763]

Ok bro

[@seanwuzhere12]

Without even finishing the video I think Obito’s is the best one because it’s just useful in most situations. Can create dimensional rifts that allow hits to go through you or just go to your own pocket dimension and the other eye can send other objects to the dimension without you touching it.

[@Big_H2]

what a time to be alive both swagkage and seth the programmer uploading on the same day

[@demarcusmilton8380]

For this man to say "Thanks for watching til the end.." confuses me a bit because why would I not considering the major blue balls I would get by NOT watching all of it. Great vid Swag😎

[@noaht3353]

Swag uploading more than once every 6 months is surprising

[@slayed9602]

There’s a reason why some of the uchiha who had a mangekyo were never officially given an ability.

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

Why is that

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@IndexInvestingWithCole because almost any one of them is broken even shin other Ms is broken it can open any portal to any dimension but for some reason he kept the one which can control any weapon

[@Rck-vert]

@@IndexInvestingWithCole because it would’ve been difficult to give a million or so people unique ms abilities.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@Rck-vert nah just put on the syfy channel

[@Akillez]

I think your theory about Kotoamatsukami, makes a lot of sense. It's more things pointing towards the two eyes operate a little different than not, mainly being every other Uchiha's eyes have two different functions, even Obito's. I do think though, it's kind of implied that Shisui doesn't have that 10 year cool down, given his rep.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

The only drawback to a Mangekyō Sharingan is that the users eyes bleed.

[@Boosiefade123]

And they become blind

[@gameuniverse5973]

You can be just like Kakashi and never go blind for some reason

[@guilha1506]

@@gameuniverse5973 When he was getting blind Madara just took the eye

[@wowftharsh]

​@@gameuniverse5973 nah u can just have so6p chakra nd not go blind

[@Kragith]

Finally, a video I wanna watch, these days every time I click on something you upload I have to wait a few moments to see if I hear, "and joining me is" at which point I nope out.

[@chillpill1649]

8:04 "Super duper ultra nuclear justu" perfect description!

[@kryzer1754]

It’s crazy how we never knew what where Madara ms abilities, and he was op already without using them 🤯

[@chidoriblackflare2893]

Or maybe he wass

[@DaddyDagoth]

I am to this day convinced that his MS power was having the physically strongest Susano'o. Every form of his Susan'o was stronger than the ones we had seen before. His Ribcage was stronger than Sasuke by a lot, his full body Susan'o had 3 heads, could weave jutsu, had infinite swords and seemed more durable than Sasuke's or Itachi's and also had legs and was way bigger. His full Body ARMORED was the same size as the god damn Perfect Susano'o which is insane considering Itachi's and Sasuke's armored. It also had legs. And then there was the Perfect Susano'o, something that we later found out was only obtained by characters with Six Paths power (Hagoromo, Indra, Sasuke after gaining Hag's chakra) and yet Madara has unlocked it with his EMS alone. MS abilities are linked to user's biggest desires at the moment of unlocking it. Itachi wanted to warp people's perception and to destroy utterly for the sake of defending his village (Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu) Sasuke took his brother's ninja way and warped it in his own twisted vision (Flame control over the Amaterasu) Obito wanted to dissapear and take others away from this awful reality (Kamui intangibility, transport and his literal personal alternate reality/dimension) Madara wanted to phisically protect his brothers and clan so what is the Ultimate Defense? Susano'o, which he gained the physically strongest and largest version of.

[@dantes4729]

@@DaddyDagoth I think it was having high level clones. Before sage of 6 path mode his shadow clones could use multiple susanoos but after he got the power up he upgraded to limbo clones it seems like that ability was unique to him since obito and nagato never used clones like that or limbo.

[@blackkoncept313]

Kamui really is the most broken jutsu in the series 🤣 imagine if obito had access to both eyes the entire time

[@gizel4376]

or just imagine if no one had another kamui to counter his

[@subratabhattacharya7983]

Obito wouldn't had a face reveal then

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Shisui was the Uchiha with the luckiest Mangekyō Sharingan ability.

[@B3an01]

One every 10 years and another one that ends when you realise you are being tricked while he is famous for doing that so if he activates it you probably think you are under it ending it

[@gameuniverse5973]

Nah obito was imagine with just one Ms that allows you to dodge any attack and can one shot anyone if you touch them

[@remigaillard4802]

And he accomplished nothing with it

[@Dton369]

nah definitely obito

[@WeebTrey]

nah its got to be Obito. He got his own dimension that he can enter and exit freely

[@arunpareek7994]

Thanks swag for accepting my video request

[@adityagudi5672]

Is it just me or is Swag's voice just amazing to listen to. Makes my day everytime you post a video man keep it going congrats!

[@5001Fergies]

Im so excited for sarada’s mangyekyo. My favorite part of og naruto was the sharingan progression, and never knowing when someone’s sharingan was gonna get a cool new ability. My only gripe is that there arent more sharingan users to watch progress through the stages, but then again shin’s clones are still around so who knows

[@regularr8333]

At the rate they're going I'd be surprised if they even give her Mangekyo, she still doesn't have three tome and we are nearing the time skip. Even if she does get Mangeyko, she won't be able to use it much cause she'd go blind. They'll have some ass-pull most likely for this or avoid giving it to her altogether. Uchihas just get shit on in the Boruto series as it is, shameless.

[@Tezzomoney]

Her father is still alive. Knowing sasuske, he’ll just rip his eye out and give it to sarada

[@regularr8333]

@@Tezzomoney Is there ever a case of a single eye manifesting into dual EMS or would she just get one? Also extremely unlikely they'll use a violence route for it, it'll probably be as he is dying and he would want her to have the eye.

[@Tezzomoney]

@@regularr8333 she’ll get just one. There’s another option but it’s a long stretch, her grandfathers MS might still be available. She can’t keep up with the rest of the prodigies without EMS and she’ll probably get a rinnegan in the long run cuz we know the first hokage cell is readily available

[@fugtugsughug1020]

@@regularr8333 sasuke’s og eyes might still be laying around somewhere. Remember he awakened the rinnegan in one of itachi’s eyes. His other sharingan is also itachi’s eye.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Kamui is just busted in both eyes one just negates durability and the other can negate any attack

[@SYKim_94]

Shisui has imo the best mangekyou sharingan ability. Dude can literally gaslight anyone by looking at them.

[@odnxrogue5975]

Ayo?! Two videos in 2 weeks?! It really is Christmas!

[@ItsDaYungin]

You’re goated for that sonic music 😂👌

[@kingzeldris7271]

It’s crazy to think that with how much obito spammed kamui there was no sign of blindness

[@BhBc8f8]

The answer to that is always Hashiramas cells

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Here’s how I think Kotoamatsukami works: Right eye: once a day, mind control someone. They are incapable of comprehending that they are being brainwashed. The user must actively give commands and suggestions like a puppet master. The user must actively maintain the jutsu and remain in range of the target. Ao saw Danzo using chakra in his eye, and threatened Danzo, who then willingly cancelled it. Only then was Mifune able to realize he was being controlled, not because he could comprehend how he was acting out of character, but because he trusted Ao when he told Mifune he was being controlled. Left eye: Establish direct eye contact and give a simple command. That command becomes the target’s prime directive. Even if the target realizes they are under the effect of a genjutsu, they won’t want to resist. Jutsu is permanent and even overrides other mind control control techniques. Takes ten years to recharge.

[@jayash2957]

Left eye doesnt take ten years

[@Supahdenning]

Reads like a yugioh card effect

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

@@jayash2957 There is a panel in this very video where Itachi says it takes ten years after he uses it on himself.

[@jayash2957]

@@KnuttyEntertainment fam its never stated for shisui And if you do the math Itachi was 21 when he died He was 12 when shisui died he would have to be 22 to know Bro shisui didnt even have ms for ten years Its obvious that ten years was programmed into the crow

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

@@jayash2957 Unlocking MS could also just give you an instinctual understanding of the jutsu. And because we know different people can have the same MS abilities, there could just be a limited catalogue, which could be known and documented by the Uchiha clan. Afterall, Itachi knew how to use both Izanami and Izanagi despite never seeing or using either. So Shisui/Itachi could just know that because a previous user of Kotoamatsukami said so. There’s even a potential candidate in Kagami Uchiha.

[@Blondie_117]

Did bro use windemill isle music from sonic unleashed?! I love u 4 that

[@scottjames8973]

Gotta agree with your assessment about two different kotoamatsukami. If you’re correct then (albeit likely unintentionally) the time limits of one not being able to be used more than once a day and the other only once a decade makes them much more reasonable. The same can be said for Itachi’s hax and his sickness. There has to be some sort of balance. Regardless great video and I’m stoked that you’re creating more content and being featured on other channels.

[@WeaponX8629]

Kakashi's eye shot up on my list when he realized he could teleport himself

[@jacobpenton3132]

"Kamui has no hard counters" *Minato appears* FTG might have a thing or two to say about that lol

[@SRVaris]

It more counters the user of Kamui not Kamui itself

[@alaye5583]

@luhnis8285 that wasn't even the highest level of the thunder god techniques

[@shadowpg3d662]

​@@alaye5583huh? Thunder god technique has no level. Whats r u talking about.

[@mung01re]

Shin's telekinesis would be _so_ much better if he didn't have to mark each individual item with a seal first. If he could just levitate an entire room of shuriken and swords with his mind, the only one that could probably stop him is Obito. It would be the perfect all-in-one jutsu.

[@swipernoswiping5940]

Swag about to end the video Madara: “ don’t forget about me “

[@kasasukar6545]

Real neutral fans said ; "obito better than madara"

[@swipernoswiping5940]

@@kasasukar6545 ironic cause he jus made a video about them lol

[@danielrubin353]

Thank you for the content swag I always get excited when I see one of your videos pop up

[@cannonhiniker]

Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.

[@elementaljedi9335]

Amaterasu confuses me, sometimes it seems like the flames are being thrown from the eye but sometimes it seems like the flames instantly appear on the target.

[@josephrogers3666]

They are fired but just really fast although maybe sasuke’s blaze release can make it just appear but idk

[@TheHulkbuster13]

I've had a theory as to why Obito couldn't use Kamui after becoming the Ten tails Jinchuriki. With Kamui, Obito can phase through solid objects, but he's not actually phasing through objects by changing his body's structure or through the space between atoms, his body is still solid, its just solid else where. As the Jinchuriki, the Ten Tails within would be separate from him in a different dimension, where as Madara using Kamui just teleported himself which just sucked up his body into the portal he created.

[@Synthwave89]

What does the ten tails being separate from him mean? Wouldn't that mean he could still make his entire body "solid else where"? Like, if he phases his entire body to the kamui dimension in an explosion (which he experienced as a jinchuriki), the ten tails would then not be separate meaning he can still do kamui on his entire body while being ten tails jinchuriki, but he doesn't. I think the explanation is much simpler, his ability was too OP so they had to nerf him.

[@TheHulkbuster13]

@@Synthwave89 What I mean is his body contains the Ten tails so he can't have parts of his body existing in another area as a result. Its a different case than just sucking up your body through a portal, or getting injured and healing both of which Madara did when he was the ten tails. I think its possilbe that if there was some kind of in balance with the ten tails, maybe Obito would have lost control and become mindless again, like he was he he first beame the ten tails until he pulled hs midn together and regain control over himself something Madara also didn't have issues with.

[@kasasukar6545]

If he cab, he cant defeated even kaguya

[@dantes4729]

@@Synthwave89 yup that literally is the only reason and madara doing the exact thing you described kind of punches a giant hole throught the plot of naruto. Obito wouldve been unstoppable so they had to nerf him.

[@jasonginnard3712]

You should do more videos like this, this was pretty entertaining and you also seem to give a bit more insight to us watching so we can understand a bit where you're coming from when you say the things you do, this was pretty nice 👍

[@memehi8081]

You and seth are on fire

[@cartervoltfire4933]

"Eye contact with Itachi is Death" Also great use of the Sonic Demo Unleashed track

[@The_Metal_Mechanic]

Hey Swag, not sure if it's just me or if it's the video, but the volume is a tad quiet at times. If you don't already use one I would recommend using a compressor on the voice over, that way you can bring the quieter parts up in volume to match the louder parts. Great list, though.

[@amenadieljoyeuse3955]

Legit man I agree heavily with this list.

[@michaeltuitt2847]

Shin's ability is a bit more than u described. It's the ability to telepathy control inanimate objects he places a seal on with his mangekyo. Any object.

[@MIbra96]

Shisui's MS is easily number 1. It is absolutely ridiculous. You get the power of Kishimoto while being a character inside his world.

[@rayuchiha6233]

I love your ranking videos swagkage especially since I can see myself 100% agree with them

[@cynthatic6590]

We dont know that the cooldown applied for shisui, it may only apply to others and even with Hashirama’s cells it would stay take a couple years.

[@memmuw]

Had Obito never lost his second eye I firmly believe he would've been the strongest character in the series like a slightly watered down version of Kakashi double sharingan because he wouldn't have ems or does he? he never seems to wear out despite always using it.

[@thekamotodragon]

the reason he never seemed to wear out or go blind unlike the other ms characters is because half his body was hashirama's cells, which are like ultra-stamina boosters that buff your bodies' stats to a crazy degree.

[@TheScrubExpress]

13:17 Me, a naruto watcher for over a decade: Wait what? I had never realized that! I don't know why it never clicked that as soon as he became a Jinchuriki he lost that ability. There's really no good explanation for that other than "he'd be too damn OP otherwise and Kishimoto only realized that afterwards"

[@meandmadarastwogiantballsa5638]

right, they did him so dirty lol

[@hayloren2977]

i hear EVERYONE say this and i dont know why but it literally says thats shuisui has a 10 year cooldown.... this is ONLY if the eye is NOT in shisui AND NOT cultivated in hashirama cells, for SHISUI, if it was IN HIS EYESOCKET, it is like a 1 DAY cooldown which means it is pretty damn good (and this is without the EMS sharingan, the cooldown could be because of strain, and if EMS removed that strain then it would literally be broken because he could spam both his eyes and would keep a constant genjutsu no matter what ((or like a 30 min cooldown))

[@3TooWonder]

Bro, it not only took a dude with a STOLEN BYAKUGAN, that was so afraid of him that he literally ordered his entire squad to LEAVE, when he saw him in the distance, but he literally MEMORIZED, not recognized, MEMORIZED his CHAKRA COLOR. When and how would that ever occur again?

[@Kaynster]

just wanna say. Obito’s ms is only uber broken because of his specific circumstances. He was only ever able to abuse kamui to the extend he did thanks to the hasi cells. Without hashi cells, you simply cant abuse it like that. The eventuality of blindness keeps it *somewhat* balanced. In my opinion, the most OP ms is Itachi’s. Having two completely seperate abilities is not only OP as all hell. But they’re both oneshot abilities as well. Either way, you defeat your opponent with a single look.

[@Until_Time_Begins]

Amaterasu isn’t really a one shot ability when it’s used against the high caliber shinobi that Itachi might have faced.

[@Kaynster]

@@Until_Time_Begins the only times amatarasu has failed is against people who have direct counters. Isshiki could absorb that shit. Naruto had the bijuu cloak. Etc etc. It very much is a one shot ability unless your enemy has a direct counter.

[@Until_Time_Begins]

@@Kaynster That’s the thing. A lot of shinobi have counters to it just like swagkage mentioned in the video. Name one time besides when Itachi first unlocked amaterasu and used it against one of the seven ninja swordsman that Amaterasu killed someone? For the strongest fire style jutsu, don’t you think it should have killed someone by now? That’s why it isn’t really a one shot.

[@kennedydk32]

@@Until_Time_Begins it killed danzo.

[@Kaynster]

@@Until_Time_Begins It would have killed Bee if Sasuke intended to kill him, for instance. But again, the people who have have counter to it, are outliers. And again, the counters only work if you know what the technique is. Bee certaintly didnt know what it was, and so couldnt counter it even when he had to ability to, and so got wrecked by it.

[@azrael_morningstar]

Imagine 10 tails obito with dual ms

[@rageplai9555]

I have a question about Kotoamatsukami, is the 10 year cool down period also applicable for Shusui? It just kinda seems like something caused by the people using it not having it naturally and if that is true where would you rank it if it had way less of a cooldown period?

[@codycraig8805]

That's how I always interpreted it. There's no way Shisui has a 10 year cooldown, he was ~14-16 when he died. Even assuming he was born with it, he could have only used it once and he seemed to know how to use it when he was gonna use it to stop the coup, which would come from experience.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@codycraig8805 nah it means he has two uses for each one or one is shorter but weaker the other is ten years

[@codycraig8805]

@@gameuniverse5973 but 10 years doesn't make any sense, because he could have AT MOST used it only once in his life. And I don't buy that

[@kylenetherwood8734]

If he died at 16, for them to know it's 10 years he'd have to do it at 6 then 16 and there's no way he had Sharingan at 6. He would also need to use it a few times to get a reputation (beating Ao is not enough).

[@MIbra96]

12:37 He says here that without the 10 year cool down it would be number 1 for free.

[@calmtbi7051]

Swag a year ago or a couple months ago I replied to one of year tweets and u said it was a good idea.Thank for make my video idea i really appreciate it thanks u❤❤❤

[@explicitwalrus6489]

Swagkage my boy with the Sonic Unleashed music🔥

[@puppiewillownu]

I think your take on Shishui is dogshit he could not be famous for it if it was easily counterable and only usable every 10 years. Even with a lower lag on being able to use it himself it still doesn’t make sense that he was so sought after for danzo to steal his eye when the uchiha clan was still a prominent power that’s too much of a risk to take over a “weak sharingan” idk

[@anonluxor470]

What if kakashi had both sharingan?

[@skyrogue1977]

I have an idea for a Mangekyou power. Given the naming convention of Japanese gods, it would be called Watatsumi. It’s power can freeze things in place at long range in one eye, and at close range in the other eye.

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

Sounds like Tsukuyomi combined with Kamui

[@billiondavid]

How can one free themselves when caught? Des it require eye contact? Does it work on anything living and non living? Can you break out? Basically how broken is it? We need information.

[@skyrogue1977]

@@billiondavid For the long ranger eye, it can freeze things in a couple meters. So any thrown weapons or ninjutsu would be frozen in place, completely suspended in air. For the other eye, anything the user comes into contact with will be frozen in place like a statue. Essentially in a state of living death, not sure if it can be undone. Just a rough draft of the abilities.

[@elite_rock_god2292]

How about just giving him something like "foresight" or whatever its called in english. Would explain how he PLANNED THE WHOLE SERIES 🤣

[@mestraespiritual]

Hello. Here some video ideas: 1- Could Kakashi beat the Five of The Sound? (One to one / four vs one ] 2-Neji vs Rock Lee [ Late Shippuden ] 3-Could Akatsuki beat Konoha? ( full Akatsuki vs full Konoha -mid shipudden [ Naruto Sage ] ) 4-Could Hinata, Ino, Tenten and Sakura beat Konan? (Opening bait fight) 5-What if Hirusen survived

[@chiefbool]

obito with both eyes would have been so crazy since he'd have susanoo as well

[@bijuutamer729]

Danzo’s Koto is severally nerfed. Shisui uses it in the war against Ao and it’s AoE is insane. Like several miles so far a Byakugan user had to sniff it out.

[@jayash2957]

Exactly and there is no guarantee the affects go away Even if you are made aware how do you know your actions are still your own You could think your free and still be helping him without knowing

[@kasasukar6545]

No That is limit from sihisui eye

[@sIimepoop]

I think you got the cooldowns mixed up on shisui’s eyes. The eye danzo was using had about a 12 hour CD since he could use it at the start of the kage summit, and again at the end of his battle against sasuke. The eye itachi had was the eye with the decade long CD.

[@Tylerdontknowbetter.]

True

[@kylenetherwood8734]

That's because of his Hashirama cells. It's stated in the manga.

[@ladlad3179]

@@kylenetherwood8734 No, clearly shisui himself would be able to use his eyes alot more regularly than someone who isnt him or an uchiha. It wouldnt make sense for him to apply to the 10 year cooldown aswell as those are his original pair of eyes. Also how would he know how well his ability works indepth if he would only be able to use it twice since he awakened it? Its just common logic lol

[@kylenetherwood8734]

@@ladlad3179 You're right. Shisui has to be an exception for him to get a reputation.

[@prismssj8532]

Everyone is gonna rank Kamui to the highest in the comments, I'm calling it

[@thisisntevenmyfinalform2025]

Yo its the caribbros guy

[@pacman7328]

havent watched but guessing kamui and kotoamatsukamj

[@_YourFlyIsOpen]

I mean they aren't wrong

[@OffBrandCourier]

Would anything else even come close?

[@gameuniverse5973]

Kamui is just busted

[@DanDaMaN95cov]

3:32 Loving the Sonic Unleashed music. Windmil Isle if your curious.

[@Djammin14]

Much obliged, friend.

[@NKtmk]

Gotta appreciate the Windmill Isle OST in the background 💯

[@moch.farisdzulfiqar6123]

If I'm not mistaken Madara had the limbo clone jutsu for his MS awekening. 2 clones with MS, 4 with EMS, and 6 with Rinnegan. Remember this clones are in different reality and almost undetected without Rinnegan or Six Path sensory ability. With this clones alone Madara could subdue the tailed beast effortlessly, and imagine if this clones had access to Susanoo (not confirmed tho, but we had already saw what it's capability in the late war arc).

[@Sicruett]

He never used Limbo before having the Rinnegan though. So it has to be a Rinnegan ninjutsu like Sasuke Amenotejikara.

[@alejandroseal3513]

@@Sicruett while this is the general consensus, it could be said that since neither Nagato nor Obito used Limbo, and since Sasuke’s is a rinnesharingan instead of a normal Rinnegan, that it is Madara MS ability.

[@Sicruett]

@@alejandroseal3513 that’s also true. I guess that’s just bad consistency on the story’s part.

[@prestigehunter9729]

@@alejandroseal3513 Nagato couldn't use it because that wasn’t his Rinnegan. He could hardly use his normal rinnegan abilities and still ended up ill. Same with Obito he could only handle one eye and even then Nagatos abilities were too much to handle for him. Plus why can Sasuke only see Madaras clones with his Rinnegan? Does that mean that Madara can't see his own clones unless he has a Rinnegan? Seems more like a Rinnegan ability to me than a MS one but that's just my opinion

[@alejandroseal3513]

@@prestigehunter9729well Nagato seemed fine using the abilities, it was only summoning the gedo mazo that crippled him, but he could do everything else fine (although shinra Tensei and chibaku Tensei were decently taxing). And Obito never used the abilities because I believe somewhere it was said or just that it could be interpreted that he didn’t want to waste his time since the people he was fighting were familiar with its abilities and he had kamui anyway. As for the Rinnegan being needed to see them, Sasuke’s Rinnegan is later (in Boruto) able to teleport between dimensions, and Naruto is able to use spsm so sense them. So it’s just a hax ability in which you need some sort of extra-dimensional sensing ability to sense them, and it just so happens both Naruto’s and Sasuke’s six paths abilities allowed them to do that. Madara can probably control them and therefore knows where they are, but it’s just an extremely powerful extra-dimensional hax ability.

[@Shisuii7]

I have questions for madara mangekyou power. We dont know any of his mangekyou jutsu beside susanoo. Which he used in perfect form with EMS while sasuke got this version with rinnegan (also kakashi got the perfect susanoo too with only MS but with 6paths chakra). So can we assume one of Madaras MS power is to have step up susanoo ? While sasuke and itachi who shared the sames jutsus having skills in the different power. Like sasuke is able to control amaterasu while itachi cant and the opposite too, itachi can manipulate tsukiyomi really consciously while sasuke isnt able to do so. So sasuke MS naturaly strong to the power of amaterasu, itachi to the tsukiyomi and then madara for susanoo?

[@MythicPossessedFN]

One thing we do know about madaras ms is that at least one of them has something to do with time, it’s revealed when they talk about how Madara survived the fight with hashirama, something about delayed Jutsu

[@azzkin9401]

​@@MythicPossessedFNThey are talking about Izanagi, Madara set up an Izanagi before his battle with Hashirama in order to revive later if he ended up dying. And yes, Madara using Izanagi is a plot hole because he didn't have senju DNA yet, but there is nothing we can do about it.

[@rifqii1735]

@@azzkin9401 you don't need senju dna to use izanagi, remember when itachi told sasuke that their ancestors used to spam izanagi at war? hence izanami existed

[@edvard4068]

Are we talking pure combat ability??? Because if we aren't then you have underestimated Shisui's right* eye. Being able to intrude on people's thoughts is incredibly strong. The manga used it the wrong way, what you should influence are quick decisions. Influence a bodyguard to stab his master. Influence a recruiter so they sign the papers to hire you in order to infiltrate an organization. I am pretty sure that Shisui's right* eye can destroy an entire nation if put to right use. Edit: Wrote the wrong direction.

[@mightymoeish]

Ranking my parents, from worst to best: Starting with my dad, because he left.

[@Connarmankeskateboarding]

Top tier thumbnail bro wth, and top tier vid as always