Rappers React To Metallica "And Justice For All"!!!

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[@masterofpuppets232]

The hate for Lars was definitely from the black album on...I don't think anyone can hate Lars in the 80s he was a monster

[@stephanieclark9849]

The hate for Lars really has nothing to do with his drumming. He was just the most vocal during the Napster era. The black album just gave ppl who already didn't like him an excuse.

[@Nissardpertugiu]

Lars was still high rated in early 1990's, the performances speak for themseves. And thats not easy to carry a performance like he did, hitting so hard, 3h for a 3 years in a row tour. People can criticize, but nobody go out without consequences from that kind of tour.

[@bh7355]

110 pound drumming monster, BUT responsible for no bass on ...AJFA

[@barbmurray8557]

I love LARS

[@masterofpuppets232]

@stephanieclark9849 believe me it started before Napster. He was looking glamor in the late 90s and they started playing more rock during the load Era. Even when garage days hit you can tell the difference from the songs covered in the 80s then during that time. Just wasn't the same thrash metal that I grew to love.

[@oddlilfella]

You guys should do a deep dive on this album.. every song is a masterpiece. It's been my Metallica favourite album for about 30 years.

[@jeremyparris640]

The Frayed Ends of Sanity 🤘🤘🤘

[@jackstrawful]

as a kid, I was forever going back and forth between this, ride the lighting and master. Now, these 30 yrs later, i think i've wound up in the same place as you, but it's still really tight. Just looking at the track list, Justice does seem like the right choice and the most even across the board, the other two do definitely have low points lower than anything here, but never all that low.... and then whenever I start listening to either of the others, my indecision comes right back again. Lightning has probably my single favorite song, Fade to Black (it's not up against anything from these three, but my favorite from the black album, Wherever I May Roam, for that #1 spot), and while Ktulu is my least favorite of the three instrumentals, it's still great. Then i consider the album's raw-er production and James' less polished vocals having their own charm and the metal-purist snob in me would want to award it here. (then i snap out of it, coming to my senses, remembering that i'm not even a metal-head in the first place, Metallica's the only metal band i've ever loved, how could there be a metal-purist in me? So, Lighting's fairly easily in the third spot). Master is nearly as even front to back as Justice, Battery is amazing, the whole first half is great - Shortest Straw and Harvester of Sorrow from Justice are probably stronger than Disposable Heroes and Leper Messiah, but it's not that huge a difference, and Master's Orion is my favorite of the instrumentals. So, yeah, really tight. Master's closer, Damage, Inc., has what may be the weakest lyrics of any song on all three albums, but the music itself is still great, even though Dyers Eve is certainly superior overall. And To Live is to Die isn't that far behind Orion, as well as getting a boost from pulling my heartstrings with Cliff's spoken word verses in the middle. If it weren't for the fact that Justice's One, as amazing as it is, wasn't so damned overplayed and played-out for me that I usually skip it, Justice's win would be more clear. (the black album would be my fourth favorite, behind all three of these - it's interesting, to me at least, that the two songs vying for the top individual song would be from the albums in the bottom two album spots; these four being the only 'real' Metallica albums to me. Kill 'em All is an interesting little time capsule, definitely worth hearing at least once, but isn't something i'd go back to again and again. I do love S&M, the symphony recording, but it very much feels like it's own separate thing. There are a handful of songs I like from Load and Reload, but, overall don't care for either album. And everything after that's been pretty disappointing for me; i had high hopes going into Death Magnetic, but that wore off quickly and i've pretty much given up since then. But, man, that Holy Trinity - or should it be Infernal Trilogy - is so damn amazing that it alone keeps Metallica as one of my 5 favorite bands of all time)

[@darthdev]

My fav album from them, sounds so pure, raw Metal 🤘

[@Charly_Dont_Surf]

I saw them live during this tour and the Cult opened for them. Incredible live performance!

[@hunterfitch5951]

I saw them on this tour as well, Faith No More was the opener. I was 11 years old LOL.

[@bill9605]

Show them with Queensryche

[@markmaloney3140]

Sweet. Seen them both.

[@jennyrowland2483]

I saw them when the Cult opened as well. If memory serves me correctly, it was an outdoor show in Nashville. And there was an eclipse of the moon that night. 😮

[@ironlung2323]

I saw the same show in Omaha, NE. Metallica was amazing! The Cult was booed mercilessly and they deserved it.

[@clonexx]

This album is pure anger. After losing Cliff they were lost and angry, and it really comes through on this album in every way possible.

[@marc-antoinepepin549]

True

[@crismelchor4563]

album right after cliffs death was 5.95 EP

[@panamajack5972]

@@crismelchor4563 ay dog EP is in the name, it's not an album

[@Crispy808]

They did it for cliff

[@Bob-ik8nt]

​@@panamajack5972and it's all covers

[@gimpy2206]

Metallica influences were motorhead, diamond head, iron maiden, budgie, black sabbath, judas priest mostly

[@ColinFurness77]

By the way, the "yeahs" don't start until the Black album in '91.🤘😉🤘

[@johnnyirish801]

This whole album was Lars' best work. They were pretty angry for this album, after losing Cliff, and you can hear it!!!

[@Huddle_House56]

God damn the Seattle 89 version of this is a must it BEATS you over the head for 10 minutes especially with those cans on your ears.

[@TF-lk6co]

This is the Metallica song that's grown on me the most over the years. The key change at the end is sublime.

[@gennyreese420]

Omg this is so crazy…I literally just put this CD on to rage for a bit this morning (my elderly mother whom I care for is having a rough day and of course I bear the brunt of it all, much as I love her it can be so hard) and as soon a it was over I came to KZbin and you guys drop this 🤘🏼✨so great… hope you both have a love filled Thanksgiving 🌻🧡😎💚✌ Edit excuse me, happy THRASHgiving ... if you guys haven't done Leper Messiah it's another good one for you, and fun fact, in the '80s I remember an interview James Hetfield did where he said he never intended to sing at all, the only reason he did is cuz they needed a vocalist and he was the only one who really could, what a shame it would have been had he not! I'm with you I love his voice it says thrash and metal all day and he can take it back and make it really beautiful too. I happen to stumble upon in Eddie Money tribute concert and James did an acoustic version of Baby Hold On To Me and it was so cool! Also I've said it before but I can't say enough how much I think you guys would like Spit Out The Bone the video is killer

[@windog551]

This was their 1st full album after Cliff burton Died and they never really came to terms with his death they just kept working. So they had a lot of built up Anger in this Album in my opinion.

[@JimBob_McRob]

The "New Wave of British Heavy Metal" is who inspired Metallica (from the late 70s and early 80s). Several bands were included in this group.

[@travissmith9046]

Anyone that's interested should look up the 'Metallic-Era' compilation, it's the original NWOBHM versions of songs covered by Metallica in the early days

[@metalguru85]

This isn't my favourite Metallica album but it's got some of my favourite Metallica songs on it. And this is one of them.

[@kristaspecht]

Same lol

[@mikethemotormouth]

Neil Young is most def Godfather of Grunge. Checkout Cowgirl in the Sand, Hey Hey My My(Into the Black), or Rockin in the Free World!

[@BongEyedBastard]

Hey Hey My My live has the most incredible guitar tone ever laid to tape.

[@mikethemotormouth]

@@BongEyedBastard funny I'd say the same about Cinnamon Girl

[@TheBlackQueen]

Many point to Queen's Stone Cold Crazy that was the initial spark that started Thrash. It was from 1974 and was the first moment where the raw Punky guitar tones of Glam Rock (which helped to develop Punk) were combined with Speed Metal and utilise fast alternate picking. They also had two songs before it that also contributed, such as Modern Times Rock N Roll and Ogre Battle. It would also prove as a notable influence on Metallica. It should be noted that Speed Metal existed prior to Stone Cold Crazy, mainly in the form of a handful of Deep Purple songs, most notably Flight Of The Rat, Fireball, and to some extent, Highway Star, which were all from 1970-1972. Black Sabbath's Symptom Of The Universe in 1975 is another track that emphasised aggressive distorted guitars with a fast down-picked chugging riff, as opposed to an alternate picking riff, which represents the other main kinds of Thrash riffs. Then Motorhead amped up the volume and oppressive wall of sound with louder and faster drums. While still just being Speed Metal, they for sure helped bring the energy to a lot of Heavy Metal in the late 70s, moving into the early 80s. A number of other British Metal invasion bands during the late 70s and early 80s would dive into Speed Metal, but it was Venom in 1981 with their album Welcome To Hell that not only made the guitars even dirtier and heavier enough to officially kick off Thrash Metal, but it was such a dark and atmospheric album that it helped to pioneer Black Metal as well! Welcome To Hell is one of the most important Metal albums in the genre and yet not enough people recognise it as such. 1983's Kill 'Em All by Metallica was the first Thrash album that gained notoriety in the adjacent mainstream, and even helped name the genre in the song "Whiplash", while Anthrax's first album, Fistful Of Metal, the next year would further cement the genre's name with the song Metal Thrashing Mad, which Malcolm Dome of Kerrang! would be the first reviewer to label the style as Thrash Metal. The last step into the mainstream was Metallica's ...And Justice For All which was the first album to be recognised as a Heavy Metal nominee for the 1989 Grammy Awards for the new Best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Award, though infamously lost to Jethro Tull, a Progressive Rock band from the 70s that many don't consider either Hard Rock or Heavy Metal.

[@hank35682]

You guys should 100% do more and Justice reactions it’s just to good 🤘

[@jarodperez4272]

The boy who would become my best friend introduced me to metal when we met in 7th grade. This is the album he started me on, and that depth y'all spoke of is what attracted me to it. The aggression was also nice, but that mental stimulation is what always gets me.

[@scorpionking4012]

That album is amazing, “eye of the beholder” is the most underrated song ever!!!

[@marym.5025]

As raw and new as it ever was… I’m counting 40 years for my, back then, 18 year old ears. Still so fresh.

[@AngelofSunday]

Saw them 8 times on this tour. Talk about a refocused hungry band again!! Jason’s live energy was contagious night in and night out!

[@gecko441]

i got adhd and listening to this chaos calms me down while drawing and studying

[@Knuckles-777]

This album was my first concert, Faith No More opened for them at Irvine Meadows CA and FNM got booed. I literally had whiplash for 3 days.

[@usa4freedom1]

I saw them with FNM too. Such a fun show!

[@kevinshelley2803]

Jason himself said that the reason you can't hear the bass is because it was his first Metallica album. As he was new and nervous, he simply played along with the guitars. He's there but as he's playing the guitar parts, you can't hear him.

[@Scarecrow545]

Nah, Lars literally had the sound engineer turn the bass down to where you could just barely hear it, then turn it down half more. Also, Jason playing along with the rhythm guitars sounds like a great idea. In music production, you hear the term 'marriage of sounds' used, where you almost can't tell where the bass ends and the guitar starts, creating this huge, heavy wall of sound.

[@Alex-bs4md]

I like how y'all both made the same sound at the end like "Damn, that was good meal"

[@victoriasteichen122]

I’m digging y’all’s energy, keep it up fellas

[@Industrialist2015ofUk]

Incredible piece of work! I miss 80's Metallica...not that i was there though most of the decade.

[@WilliamMckenzie-fg8qt]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TRASH TALKERS LOVE YALL

[@pdog547]

Was lucky enough to see them on the Enter Sandman tour in '92 - they are one of the best live bands I've ever seen (6th row!).

[@jonesi24]

You should check the live version from Seattle in 89 to see the theatrics that go along with it. I saw them in 89 in Jackson Mississippi at 13 and I was blown away… set the bar for every concert I’ve ever been to since.

[@wickedwings7611]

I've seen them 3 times. All amazing shows. Favorite was Summer Sanitarium in 2000. Metallica, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Mudvayne...

[@tomatoseed1443]

So good! Who cares if they "sold out" after this or whenever?!

[@canopener2485]

9:54 Hollywood's head moved so perfectly😂

[@kristaspecht]

Hey guys! Love this song and loved seeing you guys get into the song! I was singing right along! Haven't heard this in a min. Lol! That was great!! Happy thrashgiving fellas!!🐓🤓❤️

[@dvaderwasframed]

Seen them twice on this tour. Once in Fresno and also in Oakland. Queensrÿche opened in Fresno. Oakland was Faith No More, Soundgarden and Queensrÿche (Day on the Green1991)

[@emptybraincase4181]

i heard mentiin of a 14 min metallica song, and lol'd in orion and anesthesia/pulling teeth. i could repeat those 2 all day long and not get bored for quite a few days.

[@satanlaffing]

Smokey's assessment is right.

[@morrisgautreau6704]

Between 1985 to 1992 Metallica was my favorite band! (You all know what band after that which became and remained my all time favorite band!) I really love this album! I can even play some of this on guitar. But still: *What happened to the bass?*

[@KP-xn7bq]

Hope you've been well Moe. Miss you bud!

[@morrisgautreau6704]

@@KP-xn7bq Work is grueling! I really miss the gang! I really miss MJK/Tuesdays! I'm going to ask Hollywood and Smokey Ramirez if they'd be able to do my Patreon Request for my birthday: Jan 7th. It won't be as mind blowing as my first two request, but they'll really get a kick out of it!

[@disaffectedmale]

The dive bomb at the end of the finger tapped part of the solo's crescendo always, always gives me a chubby and a big ol stank face.

[@bigdaddydave3341]

There are quite a few examples of the roots of thrash from the '70s, typically evolving from Punk. However, one of my favorites thrash sounding songs that came before the genre was Stone Cold Crazy by Queen. I would love to see y'all's opinion of that.

[@jeremyruth6829]

The streak of Hollywood pausing within the first few seconds is still intact. :)

[@KP-xn7bq]

Thanks for this! Happy 🦃 Day!! ✌️ n ❤️

[@travelthenarrowtrail8660]

Thank you M E S A / B O O G I E for the coliseum mark 2 C guitar head! The power and chunk is unmatched.

[@martystocks1984]

My fav album by Metallica.oh...Metal Church Metal Church mannnn,time to pay homage to one of the metal pioneers guys with some groove metal from 1985🤟

[@joshuacanipe7688]

Metallica released the first thrash album, and it was inspired by Motorhead, hard-core punk, and NWOBHM bands, specifically Diamondhead.

[@doug071173]

Obituary is NOT thrash Obituary is Death Metal

[@BongEyedBastard]

Who cares? Get down the front when they hit Redneck Stomp and argue then.

[@locnar]

You 2 should definitely hear some "suicidal tendencies". A band of the same era mixing up metal and rap in an epic way. Unfortunately there aren't real good audio live clips on youtube. But try "you can't bring me down" or justenjoy the studio album "light camera revolution". You'll definitely like it! Great reaction channel btw 😉

[@Nosnhojyerffej]

So glad you guys are hitting this now with full appreciation. Imagine if you had started here? Hard to say but, I'm not sure you'd completely be with it like you are now.

[@metaphoria3]

This song is so underrated

[@patrickflynn1771]

Neil Young did an album called 'Mirrorball' in 95(?) and Pearl Jam was his backing band.

[@andrewsmokler7173]

Hope the trash talkers have their "concentration hats on" this is a long banger

[@Marty-Metal]

Keep On Rocking in the Free World is quite grungy

[@imonlyhuman69]

Metallica composition is masterful. i'll never understand how they were able to write such powerful songs.

[@kdm71291]

If you listen to songs like "My-My, Hey-Hey" from his 1978 "Live Rust" album, you'll understand why Niel Young was dubbed "The Grandfather Of Grunge". Glenn Miller was the leader of a Big band from the Swing era in the 1930s and 1940s..........my parents grew up in the great depression and were teenagers during WWII, so I was exposed to that music and culture early on......and when I picked up the trumpet, I even played one of their songs in HS jazz band!

[@christinehooper6488]

This was so awesome LIVE with Blackened and One. Check out LIVE in Seattle 1989

[@waynewade6723]

Bad omen - like a villain 💯🔥

[@timothydingman587]

This album was my first Metallica concert

[@stigpetersen9701]

Do this song from the Seattle-concert ‘89…..it will blow you away 🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘

[@kvonjaco]

Some great "grungy" type songs by Neil Young are "Ohio", "Cinnamon Girl", "The Loner", and "Down by the River" amongst many others.

[@joea1007]

I think the Yeas came later. Live I think they may have existed at this time though

[@KenBober]

This is the era of Metallica I love. Brings me back to when I was discovering thrash metal. Megadeth started it all though. Honestly I only listen to Metallicas first 4 albums. Metallica is perfect for introduction into metal. Probably my closest friend only listens to rap, well he loves Metallica, he's also amazed to with machinehead. You guys are so non bias and see the song as us metalheads do. You guys may be rappers but you are also part of the metal family. We all salute you!

[@miguelborges3125]

Megadeth did not start it all though. As you probably know Metallica precedes Megadeth

[@KenBober]

@@miguelborges3125 I was talking about myself. "Brings me back to when I was discovering metal. Megadeth started it all though"

[@srt8rocketship241]

Lars was seeking his justice by cutting back the bass. This is a straight up ass kicker. Speaking truth especially in the now. Eye Of The Beholder next. Shortest Straw is equally badass. Love the solo in that.

[@travishall6442]

My favorite album by them

[@cevans2021]

Now y'all need to check out Glenn Miller's song, In The Mood

[@mercedogre]

Cliff Burton was a big Misfits fan and obvious influence

[@craigparker9744]

Happy Thanksgiving brother's!!

[@adammccoy5166]

There are 4 main bands, known as "The Big Four": Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax. "Thrash Metal" is actually taken from an Anthrax song called "Metal Thrashing Mad"

[@ArtCartersWrestlingLibrary]

...And Justice for All is one of the most over-hated and under-rated albums in metal history! One of my favorite albums, PERIOD! Also, if you wanna hear why Neil Young is the "Godfather of Grunge", listen to Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black) from Rust Never Sleeps. I'll leave y'all a link to the song! Happy Thrashgiving, Trash Talkers! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWSUnKyQbrSLg8U

[@MatthewBousumonline]

James's yeahs usually happen more live when he is interacting with the crowd.

[@Madcat1776]

Wow. A blessing with my favorite Metallica album~ THANK THE GODS 🔥🔥🔥

[@markpaweena781]

Should of done the live version Seattle 89. Awesome.

[@mikenguyen4855]

Happy Thanksgiving! And please react to eye of the beholder by Metallica

[@bayridge108]

Motorhead and Venom are considered the Godfathers of thrash...Metallica is the beginning of actual thrash ... where as Motorhead and Venom weren't thrash but pointing in that direction...those were Metallica's influences . When Dave Mustaine was still in Metallica he can be seen wearing Venom shirts .

[@sumandsubstance7881]

How have y'all not reacted to 'to live is to die' yet? That song is a masterpiece

[@spikenelson6669]

listening to this in 88 at 11yrs old

[@brianbown7332]

Everyone hates on this, but this is by far my all time favorite Metallica album. Hands down.

[@fatsuperfly]

This was my favorite album and still is, I’ve grown to love the new stuff. I admit I hated some, but give it 10 years, lol. I was a teenager at the time, but the new music grows on you if you let it. But really all the music they put out is amazing, and it doesn’t sound like any other band, and i think that’s key. It’s still Metallica, and just enjoy the ride. Ppl can imitate, but only one true. Great reaction guys, much love Mahalos to you.

[@fuckamericanidiot]

Neil Young - Cowgirl in the Sand live Fillmore 1970 😍😍😍😍😍 It's about 14 minutes long but just chill and get lost in it, brilliant.

[@Ghostkeeper]

Lars was in charge of the finish product Kirk hammit just came out of Joe Satriani lessons and Lars cut most of his solos from this album it's why (Lars says this is my Band) lemy is the Voice for Thrash as a matter of fact the origin of Thrash!!!!!!!

[@kyleprince4126]

Okay I know I’m over a year late but 2 things. First they stopped playing this song live (for the most part) after the Justice tour because they thought it was too repetitive, second is another reason they turned the bass down was because Jason would just play the same thing as James and after having a legend like Cliff they weren’t very happy about that at first

[@metaphoria3]

I mean just the fact they cut down forests to make $ should be setting off alarm bells

[@mercedogre]

I'd say check out some of the covers Metallica did on Garage days album, gives you a good look into their influences

[@tubelious]

MF medley. I've always loved MF riffs n songs, but KD's vox had to grow on me. Metallica's Medley was pure bliss.

[@jduncanandroid]

Something often missed, in the last chorus changing the lyric from 'the price you pay' to 'the price WE pay' shifts the entire meaning of the song imho

[@nachocheez9690]

It affects everybody

[@Rokkoola]

Metallica formed in '81, Testament a couple years after. And then Obituary formed in like '86 and was one of the first death metal-bands

[@GalacticCenterOG]

No way is Neil Young considered to be the GFather of Grunge lmao. Dudes push in’ 80 years old. I’ve never heard that, nor would I ever believe that… that’s insane to me.

[@metaphoria3]

Haha that’s awesome Smokey how you were like they ran it back 😂

[@Chyrnobyl66]

imo this is the best song they have ever released, on the best album they ever released

[@remadeinjersey4860]

I wore out this cassette tape

[@lisamunley7728]

Love u guys!! Rock on 🎉

[@edwardnorgren8649]

that whole album is a banger

[@NoahParker98]

Only metallica songs with “ yeah “ are 91 and onward lol good video boys

[@stevestevens8709]

seen them live they still rock

[@kharma7755]

Lars may be a bit of a d-bag, but he's a phenomenal drummer. Time signatures outside of 4/4 are not particularly easy to pull off and he does it well

[@rautamies2305]

*was a good drummer

[@mattboselli1099]

This is going to be a great one. Hope the trash talkers enjoyed the day off, if you had to work well hope you enjoyed it after work. Smoke and beranger hope your turkey day was filled with slots of Turkey.

[@chrisd7047]

A lot of the people who hate on Lars are still, 20-someodd years later, pissed about Napster. Fuck Napster, fuck those people, pay artists for their work. Now, that said, is Lars technically the best drummer? No. He's not a great timekeeper. Nobody's going to confuse Lars for Neil Peart or Ringo Star or John Bonham. But Lars can't be a trash drummer or Metallica would have crashed and burned by now. Bands with shit drummers don't get 40 year careers. So what DOES Lars bring to the table? Two things that leap to mind for me: 1) theatricality, and 2) Lars is a fine orchestrator of percussion parts. He knows how to tune his snare and his toms. He knows when less is what's needed, he knows when he needs to go full ham. The composition of his drum parts is very orchestral.

[@billspivey6919]

Yep

[@rockyalls4386]

I don't believe there are any YEAHS on AJFA, the album itself.

[@sonofrobert]

Iron Maiden let's you always hear the bass. Even Megadeth doesn't have enough bass sometimes.

[@majorrager8645]

This is a good pic for Metallica, if you wanna get good thrash I highly recommend checking out they're Kill Em All album

[@LanceThompsonKssooner]

There used to be a thing called a MUSICIAN. We don't have those anymore (unless they are old guys, TOOL 😉). Lars was considered one of the best drummers, until he went after Napster 🤷‍♂️