Ranking The Best Fun Cars and Buying One! ($50k & Below)

[@insaneomatic34]

No WRX TR? FeelsBadMan

[@Realistick]

I think that would have been a good inclusion (in the TR form specifically), but Subaru has a strict insurance policy and I was under 25 when I started filming the series...

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick the TS is the one worth waiting for, but i think the wrx wouldve won this easily. Admittedly as an owner its been spectacular.

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick i love your vids though dude your sincerity is so refreshing and tbh i envy how tenaciously i see you chasing your dream. Ill always support even if i disagree.

[@Realistick]

Thanks, that’s great to hear, I like talking with folks who disagree too🥸

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick yeah it makes the community lively but also ive turned 34 today and perhaps all the enthusiast focus is a little overdone to me. Im dreaming of an lc500 about now like a retired dentist. A hot tight fwd car just seems like an inconvenience to me now lol

[@xXspark365Xx]

Type R is cool but impossible to buy here in Canada so it was out of contention for me. Bought a Elantra N instead

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

@xXspark365Xx in America same story often same price Type S after mark up

[@ptitjo42]

The Type S is somewhat more available, the difference is less steep at 5000 CAD compared to the 7K in the US, but still is a lot of $$$.

[@sl0907]

Most brand new type S (61-65k CAD) I've seen listed are asking less than a lightly used fl5(65-70K+CAD). Was car shopping as the type R got announced. MSRP was just within budget so I was excited. Then mark ups basically happened to the entire hot hatch segment. Couldn't get past the looks of the N so ended up getting a BRZ no mark up. Great car when u can find some twisties or track but kinda beats u up in longer commutes. If I were to shop in today's market, I'm honestly tempted at a lightly used mk8 golf R for 45k ish. Yes the engagement is lacking but still a good value at that price. German depreciation means it's still almost 5k cheaper than a used GR corolla core and the near same price as pre facelift fk8 type Rs.

[@shamalabadingdong]

​@@sl0907As an EN owner, I'd take a used mk8 R over many many cars. For sure over a 80k cad GRC or fl5

[@sunnyvalentino]

Im a married dad of a 7 yo. I have an SUV and just purchased a 24 ND3 Club. Its totally fine to take my son for soccer, tennis etc and do grocery (but not Costco) runs. People overstate their needs. Enjoy the purest drivers car out there, that also, is insanely well priced for its unique build. Double wishbones, aluminum, made in Japan, convertible, in 2024 its a crazy deal.

[@tomdoe1234]

At 6'3" I get it but for anyone normal height the Miata is #1 by far. The trunk is big enough for shopping runs. Toilet paper no problem front seat. At 5'10" it fits like a glove no issues here with space

[@2688elmo]

Enjoyed the series. You and I have such similar taste in cars. I agree almost entirely with your list. I had a 2020 ND2 and then got the FL5. The amount of reviewers waxing lyrical about FL5, I was afraid it would expose how inferior the MX5 is, because I loved that car. And FL5 simply didn't. I had both cars together for a total of 9 months before I had to get rid of the Mazda. But given the "Porsche-esque" praise FL5 always gets, which is justified, I now see the MX5 as the most fun new sports car on earth. Nothing tops that. People get all hung up about lap times and capability, which the FL5 and so many other cars have in spades. But the MX5 pivots around the driver. You sit so low, amplifying the sensation of speed. The lack of weight is just a magical thing. FL5 feels like a bus compared to MX5 with so much car behind the driver. Same goes for every other regular car. MX5 has perfect pedal placement, zero rev hang, instant response, and no active safety features that switch back on with every drive. Starting to fall in love with my FL5, but no other new car will feel as 80/90's as an MX5. I believe we may have another 12-18 months of MX5 on sale before it ends production. I hope longer. Stupid financial decision for me, but I love that car too much to not pull the trigger on one. Prefer new as I like to run it in carefully for peace of mind. Glad you put both the MX5 and FL5 as your top 2.

[@fmc7209]

Been using a ND2 as my daily for a bit over a year now and could not agree more with your comment. Little car literally RUINED almost every other car to me

[@4drturbo85]

But I hear the transmissions in the ND2 are like glass. Lots of people I've been reading about having to have their transmissions replaced due to synchro issues

[@2688elmo]

@@4drturbo85 had zero issues with mine. One of the nicest transmissions I’ve used. FL5 shift is also very nice. Loved them both as I rate them both as some of the best shifters. Neither is better though. Each is different and equally lovely to use

[@fmc7209]

@@4drturbo85 there were issues with the ND1 that were slowly improved over the years. Haven’t heard of any issues with the ND2 and haven’t had anything happen to mine either (knock on wood)

[@dipastick]

Just picked up a type s for 48k before ttl

[@Vidslistchannel]

Woah that's a sick deal. New? Where at?

[@CM-yy9bc]

A dedicated sports car will always be more fun than any compromise car. Thats why the 2 car garage is a must if you have the means!

[@kurtstephan7039]

Great series; I really enjoyed it. I made a similar decision in summer '23, basically considering all of your top six. At the time, the Toyobaru twins, GR Corolla, Civic Type R, and Integra Type S were unobtainium in my area without massive dealer markups--dealers who were also very reluctant to give test drives--plus the latter three were priced beyond was I was comfortable spending even at MSRP. And I was tempted based on its glowing reviews, but never seriously considered the Elantra N because of a bad previous Hyundai ownership experience. In contrast, I was able to get $2K off MSRP on a new Miata RF GT (manual). Because it didn't have to be a practical car, it was a no-brainer and I've loved every second driving it. Side benefit: It gets amazing gas mileage, even when being thrashed. Probably can't say that about any of the others here. But...if I could have spent more and could have gotten one for MSRP, I think I would have bought the CTR or ITS. So I understand your dilemma in making a choice!

[@genzigzag]

My friends ask me why I don't drive my RCF... the answer is always Miata 😂

[@bbeboarding]

the mustang looks like someone asked AI to make a mustang... i miss the FOST and FIST days

[@BigTimeRushFan2112]

I owned both a FoST and a FiST. Attended Ford driving school after both sales too (2017 and 2018) out at Grantsville Utah. Fun cars!

[@mattz28si]

I always wonder if anyone actually thinks the new Mustang looks good.

[@bbeboarding]

@@BigTimeRushFan2112 i sold my fist last october, that thing was a riot. Looking to replace it with a veloster n or elantra n.

[@AbleMable]

Yep! I had a FiST.... Best car I've ever owned. I horribly regret trading it in 😢

[@AbleMable]

​@@BigTimeRushFan2112FiST > FoST... Test drove both back to back, and it was a no-brainer to go with the FiST! Felt more engaging than it's bigger brother

[@Comptonjuju81]

Type R gang !

[@AngelValdovinos]

No quality

[@josephjones7155]

WRX?

[@Realistick]

I couldn’t make it happen for this series, though I tried, I did make a video of a TR with the GR Corolla so I already knew it was out of the running for me personally.

[@joshuagraham3222]

I’m a little surprised the WRX didn’t make the list. It’s a bargain for the car it is.

[@dennisthewalker]

Sticks and stone may break my bones. At the end of the day. Miata Is Always The Answer!!!

[@snarwars]

I’m glad your journey ended with the ‘answer’. Made the same decision this year too.

[@Realistick]

Nice👍 It was quite the process, but I suppose that was what I needed to realize it really was the answer🤠

[@sharkscanplay2890]

Made the same choice but went with an fk8 as I got a really nice deal. Plus I plan to mod it anyway which will over compensate for the small loss in performance between the fl5 to the fk8

[@citrusjuicebox]

Awesome series, and I agree with your conclusion! I want to mention two things: 1. Even if the ND shifter feels better than the Type R's (I'd say it's more of a toss-up, but that's just me), the reliability issues surfacing again makes the Type R the safer choice. Reports of ND transmission problems and failures recently began to increase from 2021+ MYs. 2. Given the discounts on them these days, Z Performance models can be had for around $47k (gunmetal), while Sport models are basically touching the higher end of Miatas. I don't think this puts the Z in contention for a top spot, but maybe bumps it up a few places? Anyway, excited to see what's coming next!

[@desertosprey]

Great video, Tyler! Instead of one $80k car, I went with an FL5 Type-R AND an ND2 Miata. They are both excellent for the reasons you stated and I hope to keep them for a LONG time. But I can't help you with your decision... I still struggle picking which to drive each day! :D

[@Realistick]

Thank you, I'm quite jealous of that garage! Maybe I didn't make super clear in the end, but I did choose the Miata (I'm waiting on my local dealership for the order).

[@desertosprey]

Awesome! 😃👍🏽

[@wholeNwon]

The destructive influence of FOMO extends to other things in life. Be careful. Be prudent and you'll be all right.

[@bearclaw5115]

Take chances and bet on yourself and you'll be all right.

[@hardycase3474]

You have a great youtube channel. I especially enjoyed the Si review.

[@dannyphamous]

You’re on the same page with me on cars and welcome to the club Tyler! It’s not the new best car, but it is one of the most fun and unique driving experiences: lightweight, pure, all RWD, and reminiscent to 80s/90s JDM cars. Would like a FL5, GRC, Supra, but would still miss having this experience. I would get a GR Yaris if that was available (seems more oversteery than GRC, more pure, and 2800lbs). Throughout your extensive comparison series, it seemed you didn’t give too much praise to the miata at all. In this video, I was already excited and surprised when you ranked the miata as 3rd noting and ranked it with the best shifter. I love my 2020 ND softtop only more and more daily driving exclusively top down in California. It’s the only new car that reminded me of fun lightweight 90s JDM cars that I enjoyed such as the original Miata NA, original MR2, and EF/EG Civics all under 2200lbs (Miata ND at 2334lbs). Plan to keep forever as my last fun gas car and add any used or cheap gas/ev 4 door in future when daughter turns 5. Still hope for more fun gas cars in the future but will see.

[@justinczternastek5346]

Buy both, problem solved

[@djkenny1202]

Too bad there’s not many or any y set 25k performance cars?! I miss the hot hatch era of yesteryear, when $12,000 ones were available, when some lower. When do we get a performance Versa, Fit (if it still was around)?

[@libintan6211]

wrx

[@theaxemanhd4919]

i have a 2023 WRX with the STI short throw shifter...... EXTREMELY FUN! there isn't anything else even close to the boxer rumble when you open it up, brilliant sound and the mechanical AWD system is arguably the best in the game. fun on pavement, grass, gravel, and dirt. once you get past the black plastic body panels its dope. great video just think u left a cool one out.

[@maximus9401]

Not that it matters the least bit what I think, but I'm glad you went with the decision that you did. A type R would have given you a close (even though it's quite different) experience to the GR Corolla. To trade out of one practical, great handling FWD biased high revving turbo hot hatch to another, you would have been disappointed. You went with that car that felt special and offered a unique experience completely different to what you had before. That's the right thing to do no matter what car tickles your fancy. Just a heads up though, you'll want another practical daily (ask me how I know lol)

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

You surprised me definitely made the right choice. #1 car for fun which is why we're car enthusiast

[@asphalthedgehog6580]

The answer always is: as light as possible. Acceleration, top speed and torque is fun 2 times. After that only feel, fun and cornering counts. Had a Golf V GTI. Quite simply: boring after 2 weeks. Own a Miata since 2011. Boring, ever? Are you kidding?

[@KeithWaibel]

I really is too bad you didn’t include the VB WRX. I paid new with a 100k factory service plan less than 31K for my leftover 2023 and was able to finance the car at 0 (that’s right zero) percent interest for 6 years. The Vaunted Subaru AWD system is better than any one here and once you learn how to steer with the engine (thank you Dan Gurney) it is more entertaining than the MX-5 Chassis (which I replaced with this car). Yes, the materials are cheap looking but durable, The ride is in the middle of this group, but 4 adults fit easily and the usability of this car is the best of this group. The N has that chassis bolster, The GR has that engine that should detonate before 60k miles, The Type R is FWD and a handful on icy roads. The VW does not have a manual and should be eliminated on that alone and costs 15k more. If you don’t value your warrantee the WRX for 5k can outperform all of these cars. Enough said; Subaru is the clear winner here

[@miken4348]

Type S with an aftermarket spare tire is the ultimate daily driver. Next step up is a Porsche.

[@janoycresnova9156]

That's quite a step up. It's that good?

[@KeithSchwerin]

@@janoycresnova9156 When really the other competitors are all auto only, Porsche is the only other option to step up to for manual unless you want to over spend on what BMW wants for an M3. If it was still being made I'd say that a GT350 would be a nice mid step.

[@luisjalvareztorres8481]

Using Type S and Porsche in the same sentence is wild.

[@Raj-kt7db]

How does the NB compare to the ND3? Considering buying one a few years after I graduate college but I wanna keep my expectations in check. For context, I have a 2001 LS now.

[@peter9930]

I had the same dilemma, used Fk8 type R and a used nd2 miata. I chose the Type R and don't regret it! For the price I think the FK8 is a crazy value. But sometimes I wish I went with the miata. Either way I'll eventually own one of those too. Great video!

[@mrmonday42]

Just found this channel because of your Zygrene video. I feel like his Integra may have influenced the rankings a bit ;-) Great choice by the way, ND3 is what I would choose as well, but I would probably stretch my budget for a manual Supra....this is why I'm not a financial advisor

[@bwappo]

If I had to consider one car besides my GR Corolla, it would be the choice you made, and I went through many of the same cars when narrowing down my choices. I'm super curious to see where your new car takes you. Thank you for such an informative and emotion-up-front series of evaluations!

[@racer247]

Bro, using your own point system, the GR Corolla is only 1 point lower than the Miata. This seems like an excuse to buy a new car. 😂

[@lucassitanggang5154]

There's Toyota Corolla hatchback? Astonishing. 0:52 By The way, if European British, German, and American, say this is Püh Shahhh

[@ontarioman6301]

WRX is a bargain in Canada when compared with GR or anything else. AWD to boot

[@Sonic_1000]

I ended up with a 21 Supra 3.0 and a 24 Mustang GT 10 speed. I just can't do the cars that are so much slower than the Z. Speaking of, drove a new Z, liked but did not love.

[@seb5945]

I also have a spreadsheet and been ranking cars for myself for 10 years now. It's more of a hobby than an actual plan to buy one. Also partly because I like my current car a lot, not in a hurry to replace it any time soon.

[@303MoTo]

Thoughts on the upcoming 2025 300hp Toyota 86, or the 2025 AWD Celica?

[@s4awd2]

Hmmm. A Porsche 911 GTS ? Or... An FL5, GRC and Miata :)

[@TerryManitoba]

I am done with FWD fast cars. So no type R or S - & they are too big for my liking anyhow. The Mazda & GR 86 are too small as a DD & for high mileage trips - go figure-:) VW - too boring & blah - in so many ways!!! I tried a few. 👍GR Corolla is the sweet spot for me👍 BTW - the others are not even on my radar - Especially the Mustang...

[@4drturbo85]

Unfortunately the GR Corolla is very ugly. Especially the rear.

[@SineFractal]

@@4drturbo85 that’s what they said about your mum

[@donaldpiper9763]

@@SineFractalTruth hurts don’t it .

[@TerryManitoba]

@@donaldpiper9763 No accounting for taste - I Guess. 🤡Does this GR body kit make my @$$ look big???

[@Tsukuyomi8]

The R can do impressive donuts though

[@vr6gls]

Why not include the MK8 GTI on this list? Especially since you included the Golf R. Some people find the GTI to be a bit more playful than the R, and it’s cheaper than the Elantra N, Civic Type R and Integra Type S.

[@Realistick]

I would agree that it’s a little more fun but I choose the Golf R for the series as it was more in-line with the CTR, GR Corolla and Integra Type S.

[@layne4376]

Playful v.s. giant killer. The R is in a completely different league than the GTI.

[@vr6gls]

@@layne4376 Not really. The Golf R is only significantly faster than the GTI from a launch. From a rolling start, there isn’t a huge difference, the Golf R is slightly faster. Let’s also not forget that the FWD GTI Clubsport is faster than the AWD Golf R around the Nurburgring.

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@vr6gls we don't get the Clubsport here in NA unfortunately. And honestly I don't think the GTI we get stacks up well to the competition. The GTI is only cheaper than the EN in its lowest spec (S). The EN comes fully loaded, only has one model. Every other trim level of the GTI is more expensive.

[@torlin55]

That’s great! You are the second car reviewer I know of buying the Miata for their own use. Just had to have it!

[@dasmg]

the Type-R is definitely the choice here, i have an FK8 and i can't really find a car i'd like to trade it for, and a few of these cars in your list i'd really like to own as well.

[@sl0907]

Keep it. It's a great car and friendly to the wallet. I see fk8s still being listed for similar pricing as lightly used mk8 golf Rs.

[@dasmg]

@@sl0907 i really do love it, i just always want to try new stuff. Unfortunately I don't think any of the RWD options sub 55-60k really do it for me, especially considering i didn't have to pay mark-up for this car in the first place.

[@sleety00]

Appreciate you putting this vid together! Been waiting on it since you announced it. Further affirms I gotta turo the elantra N to get it out of my system so I can fully commit to my gr86 lol

[@ric44n]

you know you want the type R !

[@johnss2k434]

Sold my type R after 3 years for what I paid for it new. If you can get one for msrp go for it!

[@theapplepaul]

'You have chosen wisely'. Great video!

[@j.v.0.t855]

6:11 Ah yes, driving in the 86 going at the exact “pee limit”.

[@KeithWaibel]

I really is too bad you didn’t include the VB WRX. I paid new with a 100k factory service plan less than 31K for my leftover 2023 and was able to finance the car at 0 (that’s right zero) percent interest for 6 years. The Vaunted Subaru AWD system is better than any one here and once you learn how to steer with the engine (thank you Dan Gurney) it is more entertaining than the MX-5 Chassis (which I replaced with this car). Yes, the materials are cheap looking but durable, The ride is in the middle of this group, but 4 adults fit easily and the usability of this car is the best of this group. The N has that chassis bolster, The GR has that engine that should detonate before 60k miles, The Type R is FWD and a handful on icy roads. The VW does not have a manual and should be eliminated on that alone and costs 15k more. If you don’t value your warrantee the WRX for 5k can outperform all of these cars. Enough said; Subaru is the clear winner here

[@MrWhiteBeans]

But it's ugly as sin 💀

[@dannyoconer6645]

I own a civic type R and yes it’s a blast and the speed can be fixed with a tune

[@naticedog]

Didn't even include the WRX... SMH This is the most affordable AWD, sporty sedan out there. Name a better AWD for 30K and under. Need to reconsider your life choices lol j/k.

[@bearclaw5115]

I get the vibe but technically this is not correct. The cheapest WRX is $33,855 out the door and that is the lowest of 5 trims (soon 6 trims). It's more affordable and everyday livable than the GRC but also not as fun. Fun fact WRX drivers earn more speeding tickets than owners of any other car. And they are expensive to ensure.

[@orochicc002]

WRX would win the best practically and affordability for sure. It's also one of the few cars still having a physical hand brake

[@nobleman-swerve]

​@orochicc002 Practicality gets a massive side eye when it's sedan only with multiple hatches in play for the competition.

[@Savagewolf624]

​@bearclaw5115 that may be true but the wierd part is insurance on a wrx is still 20 bucks cheaper for me than a grc. Figure that one out

[@4drturbo85]

Great video. I owned a 2023 Hyundai Elantra N with a manual transmission. I sold it about a month ago. It was all paid off. I really enjoyed driving the car. BUT I couldn't grow to love the looks of it I think when you buy a car you really have to love the way a car looks. The 2024s look worse in my opinion. The clutch was very weird mainly from a dead stop in first gear. The octane learning was a joke. Vehicle didn't feel that quick. So I'm trying to figure out what I should buy to replace it. Still looking. I was looking at miatas and joined a Facebook group. Seems like a lot of people are having transmission issues with the Miata. Synchro issues were they get a new transmission replacement or warranty Not sure when Mazda's going to fix that but it seems like a lot of people with 2023s are having that problem. The Civic Type r is a great car looks great in the front but the rear looks horrendous. I'm not a fan of all this new tech in these cars. Taking my time as prices continue to go down. Especially with a Nissan z. Lots of dealerships are having trouble selling those. Would love to get a new Miata as well but not sure on the reliability with the transmission I don't want to have to have it at Mazda for a new transmission a bunch of times like some people have

[@Realistick]

The transmissions aren’t built to handle extra power, people like to turbo them, people like to track them hard, it’s easy for them to get abused. I heard about some failures with the ND1 but not in huge numbers. I haven’t heard much about the ND2 issues (outside of a brief google today) so Ill look into it more for my next video but most owners love them and don’t have problems. Unless you’re planning to boost it, treat it with some degree of respect and you shouldn’t worry about it being a regular at the dealer.

[@terrancemoore496]

I actually stopped watching your video when it came down to the Honda Corporate Cousins. Two of the most expensive. Congrats man I forgot why you trading in your GR Corrolla again? Oh drive too rough and cheap materials, and you still put it in 4th place.😅

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

Hey no car is perfect man why I have over 10 older cars to scratch everything

[@alengreen589]

Toyota GR Supra 2.0 Turbo for under $ 50k?

[@bradyg499]

S2000

[@adamwright9741]

Yeah, sure… if you have another vehicle!

[@keiros1]

Miata is Always the Answer

[@teemeaux3830]

If I could fit more comfortably in the nd it would be on my shortlist. Idk how long someone 6’3 can last in a Miata everyday.

[@jacksparrow5281]

Thanks I’ll keep my 2019 370Z

[@DaddyDWALLY]

Thanks for this series, Realistick. It has been a pleasure to go on this journey with you. I was stuck between the Elantra N and GR Corolla, but I’m just going to save my money for the kids and grab another used Fiesta ST to commute around town in 😂 #FISTgang

[@bearclaw5115]

Fiesta ST? Are those still around? I assumed they all die early deaths because I never see any on the road despite only being 10yrs old. Fun cars though.

[@DaddyDWALLY]

@@bearclaw5115 I still see them occasionally. I had a ‘15 Fist and sold it for a minivan with our kids… time to get one back!!

[@bryanrubino3681]

I seriously dont understand how a VB wrx wouldn't have won this. Underappreciated as always.

[@oemj7147]

You seat very high, turbo lag, soft suspension, huge tablet in the dashboard, not a good exterior design, boring to drive, not particularly reliable.... and the list goes on. Unless you live in Alaska it's not a good choice.

[@bryanrubino3681]

@oemj7147 buddy. I own one, the drivers seat is adjustable and balances comfort and visibility really well depending on your preferences. There is little to no turbo lag, althpugh the redline is a little low one of the main highlights of the engine is a consistent power curve. Suspension is NOT soft, in factii think it errs on the side of aggression a little bit and the car corners flat. The rest is subjective but its been perfect for me and i mean not a foot wrong throughout my ownership. I bought in 22. Its a wonderfully capable performance daily.

[@Realistick]

It wasn’t included because I couldn’t get a press loan TR (under 25 when filmed) and there weren’t any TRs on Turo. I’ve also already done a more casual comparison of it against the GR Corolla (TR and Limited) so I knew it wasn’t going to replace the Toyota. Great car for a daily series though, I’m thinking about filming one of those in a couple of years if I have the resources to buy another new car.

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick might as well wait for the ts, which is the actual enthusiast package, with adjustable dampers and such. I really believe that'll be the ultimate wrx. Especially with a stage 1 tune which as a motorcycle rider i dont really care for usually. In this case though thats a reliable, ever so slightly homemade sti with just the right amount of helpful tech even if the digital display is a phone-in.

[@Realistick]

@@bryanrubino3681 I forgot that they released the TS. They really are getting so close to making another STI (just needs the LSDs and steering imo). I’ll try to get a 2025 GR Corolla together with the ts when they get them in the fleets!

[@josebelisario9669]

Surprised the WRX was not included in this list given what it offers for the price in the base and premium trims. While it may not be the best performer on tarmac, it's still fun and it trounces others when off road.

[@Realistick]

You're definitely right. I wanted to include the TR, but I was under 25 and Subaru's insurance policy is apparently too strict (just got press approval after my recent birthday). I also tried to get ahold of a modified VB, but I couldn't get it to work out.

[@michaelzero5144]

JCW Clubman All Wheel 306 hp all day long.

[@marccandrift]

Thing about miata is you never keep it, ask any miata owner lol.. Type R you dont sell ever

[@fmc7209]

And everyone that sells it regrets it and ends up buying another later on…

[@lordflyquad4721]

Yep, eventually, you sell your Miata(s), and a few weeks later you realize something is missing in your life, and get another one. I'm on my 4th...although, mine have all overlapped ...haven't been Miataless for the last 19 years.

[@streamius]

I had never heard that, but I can see it. It's the perfect car for perfect days, but on any other day there's something better. Still, I just tested one last week and can't get it out of my head.

[@thefamilydog4115]

That feeling at the end? I get it. I think about trading my 2020 Miata I bought new constantly due to its impracticality for an Integra Type S. The miata is much more of an A to A car for me which substantially limits how often I can drive it compared to a fun A to B to A car that can get me and others around. It feels impossible to let go of, but I can't deny how infrequently I can drive it compared to a more all-around car, so I get stuck driving my pickup most of the time

[@fmc7209]

Do you not drive as often mainly due to lack of space to carry things/people?

[@EchoSigma6]

Old saying, Miata is always the answer.

[@shamalabadingdong]

How does the gr corolla have a wider variety of settings than the N? From electronic suspension to active exhaust, there's way more configurability on the EN side.

[@Realistick]

It's more fun in a wider variety of settings (settings as in places), the GR works well no matter the weather or road surface!

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@Realistick ah got it. Misunderstood the wording. Overall pretty solid list. I would add a value category imo, but that would definitely change the order of the list. Here in Canada, gr corollas and fl5's were going for 70-80k while an Elantra N was 41k. It was a no brainer because I could realistically buy a c6 corvette and an Elantra N for the price of one of those. To me, value is as important as anything else because the money I spend in one car could be money that goes to another

[@mountainhobo]

"Analysis paralysis".

[@clubracer6]

I am trying so hard to cut back on my automotive subscriptions, but you’re making it hard. Great job and choice if you went MX5. With the money you save you can pick up a cheap 2nd daily if needed. Old E46/E90 insert something from Asia as well.

[@dennisthewalker]

Now that you a 6'3 miata owner such as myself. (I daily my NC1 miata) How are you going to address the headroom issue? Lumbar support? Etc?

[@Realistick]

We shall see, thinking about a lowering bracket but Ive barely looked into it. I just pushed the seat back and tilted it forward when I drove it for the series and I was alright, not great.

[@dennisthewalker]

@@Realistick Can't wait to see what you will do to the Miata!! btw...will you been selling the GR Corolla? kinda interested in it. haha.

[@Young_Bourdain]

Type R is almost unobtainable at MSRP and can’t be driven in the climates I face in the winter. The GRC or the WRX STI (used) were my only options. I went with the new GRC last year and it’s been amazing. If I lived in a warmer place I would try to get a Type R.

[@bachsi1]

Love the reviews and perspectives you offer for vehicles in THIS price range! It’s a wonderful class of car, and I also ended up close to a decision between FWD manual options and the ND. My nostalgia won though, and the ND2 was the winner for me :)

[@8Kyofu8]

Its crazy that I was in the exact same position a little over a year ago. I had a deposit down on a Civic Type R but was looking at MX-5s on the lightly used market. They were such a screaming deal price wise, so incredibly fun to drive and I didn't need the extra space. I also ended up with a Miata RF haha. Its been a year now and I drive it everyday as my daily, it'll even be my daily in the next Canadian winter since I got winter tires for it! Honestly no regrets, and the Type R/S can always come later as the more "practical" car in the future.

[@joeb4294]

Congratulations! I've been thinking about getting an MX-5 for a while. I'm holding out to see if Mazda offers some more interesting color combinations of the ND3 in its final years. Or, maybe I will be intrigued enough by the presumed "NE1" to hold out for that.

[@probablytherealpaul]

Just found your channel and subscribed! Your fun car review series is great. I’ve driven or owned many of these cars and I can’t find a lot of faults in how you’ve ranked them. I just picked up my second Type R and plan to keep it for a long time. It’s such a great car.

[@EdwinAaronSaenz]

I see what you did there at 6:12

[@cyon-p3h]

Great video, the summary is well balanced and full of useful information on helping people choosing a sports car that suits their need. This series have sparked the idea to own an MX-5 again but as a second car this time around. My reservation is that I live in a rural area and commute to work in a long stretch of straight roads, how much fun will I get out of an MX-5.

[@MK3504]

Tried dealerships across the country with the Type R, in no way is it as easy as many say to get it at MSRP. Elantra N for MSRP baby

[@spunkush]

It's crazy how they make it so hard to buy sports cars, and then use the low sales as evidence that they should discontinue manual sports cars.

[@Realistick]

It’s a huge problem, a lot of the dealers that do sell at msrp will only sell in-state.

[@notyushi4874]

I chose the GRC over the civic type R, Golf R and WRX TR. I wanted a hatch or sedan for practicality but I also wanted something rowdy and it just checked the boxes. I will say the WRX TR was very disappointing imo because I love the WRX but Subaru just fumbled on the newest gen.

[@kurtglover3648]

You won't regret the ND3 man, as an ND1 owner for several years now I can confidently say I'll always have an ND in my garage, there's just nothing else like it anymore!

[@1Icehawk1]

All you really need is a FL5 and a ND, I've owned both and it's my perfect garage for a realistic budget. Have the FL5 now but need another ND to fill that RWD gap.

[@Reala27]

Love my GR86! Fun, quick, affordable, it has a head turning factor where people really notice it. Can't beat the balance, more comfortable than one would imagine, and there is enough practicality. I've had multiple people in the back seat, so its doable, though certainly not the most comfortable. lol

[@bearclaw5115]

I'm leaning GR86 for the same reasons, great car!

[@oemj7147]

You can't fit people in the back seat of a GR86. I should know since I own one. The car might as well be advertised as a two seater.

[@Reala27]

@oemj7147 i did a trip from Pittsburgh to Cleveland and back with 4 in the car. Not exactly comfy, but it's doable.

[@oemj7147]

@@Reala27 I can't imagine how that would be possible. Maybe if the driver and passenger in the front were under 5 feet tall. I could not fit a 5"1 kid in the back seat with two people slightly under 6 feet in the front no matter how much I tried. There is literally no room for anybody with legs to seat in the back if the front seats have average size adults in them.

[@Kraize92]

LOL. I was stuck between the GRC and CTR for month and then I decided to upgrade from my NB Miata to an ND Miata and have not regretted my decision. I also had no need for a practical 4 door as I already had another one.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I was recently trying to talk myself into an ITS, but I would have needed to trade in my truck. Then a Miata low mileage NC Miata showed up on Marketplace with exactly the spec I wanted nearby. I was there in a hurry.

[@paulgemperlein626]

How tall are you? I'm 6'5" and feel Miata is out of my height range but otherwise love 'em, especially the RF. Hard to beat a powered automatic hardtop in addition to everything that a Miata brings to the table in the first place.

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

You’re stuck with BRZ /GR86 if you want a car like this unfortunately

[@Realistick]

I’m 6’3, if you’re really skinny, it might work with a soft top (less meat on the legs makes you sit a little lower). Otherwise, you are probably going to need to look at the Toyobaru twins

[@ontarioman6301]

I couldn't fit in the Miata. 6 ft 3 inches

[@ontarioman6301]

I do fit in the BRZ

[@ZackNakazora1]

I think throttle house said it best. the CTR is the best car but if you roll up to a meet and im there and you have an Elantra N (or veloster N) I will never make fun of that choice and applaud you for making fun car choices.

[@Jay_812]

As an ITS owner, I couldn’t be happier to see it at the top of the list. As an aside, I’ve seen several used with low miles in the mid 40s. That way have been the way!

[@sayanpal9491]

Miata with Hardtop?

[@banimanFJ]

As a fellow GRC owner, I would have liked you to stay, but the ND Miata is always the right choice.

[@TheOnlyMrDinoHenry]

My life doesn’t make sense for an MX5 but I almost bought one. I agree with your thesis, the car to remember internal combustion by

[@evanloudenback3700]

Best point you made, the Miata is unlike anything else on the market, in the best way possible. Combined with the affordability, reliability, and that sweet sweet transmission...Miata is the answer 👍

[@wranglerlife4ever42]

Just for fun, I would have liked to see a WRX and a Dodge Hornet RT. It would be interesting to see how these 2 cars would score. I know the Hornet is a flop and Dodge cant give them away, but curious what the score would have been in this pack of cars.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Great reviews

[@Vipes-lj5po]

I was between a used ND2 and a GR corolla and I went with the miata. The loudness is really the only issue I have with it and I plan on getting some nice comfy audio earplugs to keep in the car.

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

Condolences to those that missed out on fk8. It’s pretty much the fl5 but slightly more compact and better suspension tuning (pre-2020)

[@RonaldMartinez-f2u]

Daisy Corner

[@TheGoodBoy219]

great job man

[@krustyk98]

I come from Honda CRV and Toyota SUV, When I got my job, I aimed instantly for the FL5. Glad I found the best car.

[@ab93123]

You got an ND3??! Congrats man!! You will not regret it! I think it has been the best decision of my life (apart from my marriage of course) :)