Red Pike (Wasdale) & Pillar via the notorious Dorehead Screes from Wasdale Head (The Lake District)

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The Col of Dore Head can be reached from Mosedale if starting from Wasdale Head, although a long hard climb up Dorehead Screes is involved.
Red Pike presents an almost continuous wall of crags above Mosedale, particularly above Black Comb. Bull and Black Crags meanwhile guard the southern section. To the west a long shoulder of land falls gradually between Nether Beck and Over Beck, narrowing as they converge toward the shore of Wastwater. In the middle of the plateau is Low Tarn, a large shallow waterbody lying in a flat basin. It drains via Brimfull Beck into Over Beck. This whole area is unfrequented with few paths amongst the grassy hillocks and low crags.
Scoat Tarn at the head of Nether Beck is by contrast a corrie tarn, held in place by grassy moraines. Its depth is around 65 ft
Red Pike has a subsidiary southern top Black Crag with a height of 801 (m).
The fell can be confused with Red Pike (Buttermere), not least because its namesake is only three away, so according to Alfred Wainwright it is conventional to call it Wasdale Red Pike.
Pillar stands on the southern wall of Ennerdale, three miles from the head of the valley. Two tiers of impressive crags run the full length of the fell from Wind Gap in the west to Black Sail Pass in the east. The top tier fronts the summit ridge, a series of coves being interspersed between the buttresses. Below is a narrow terrace bearing the 'High Level Route' path and then a further wall including Pillar Rock, Raven and Ash Crags and Proud Knott. The lower slopes are planted with a broad belt of conifers, extending across the River Liza to the flanks of High Crag.
The southern flank of Pillar looks down on Mosedale, the more westerly of Wasdale's two main feeder valleys. From Wasdale Head village Pillar appears to stand at the head of Mosedale, but the valley curves out of sight, actually having its source on the slopes of Scoat Fell. The Mosedale slopes cannot compete with those above Ennerdale, although there is outcropping rock, particularly at Wistow Crags, Elliptical Crag and Murl Rigg.
The summit of Pillar is at the western end, immediately above the descent to Wind Gap 754 (m). This continues the watershed to Scoat Fell and beyond. A subsidiary spur branches off north-west of the summit, passing over White Pike before petering out in the Ennerdale Forest. The eastern ridge of Pillar stretches for about a mile, gradually descending before the final upthrust of Looking Stead. This subsidiary top is listed as a Nuttall in its own right. Beyond is Black Sail Pass, a pedestrian route between Wasdale and the head of Ennerdale. Kirk Fell stands on the other side of the pass.
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[@Happy_Hiker]

Another great video. Absolutely love the footage 16 minutes in, of you and Billy walking along the ridge in the clag. The music for that piece fits beautifully. So atmospheric. Well done once more! 😊

[@RockStar67]

Thank you Mandy very much appreciated 😊 My apologies for the late reply 🙄 ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@Coffeee1971]

"I don't have a favorite I love them all " I like what you said pal !! Dorehead Screes is beautiful and hell of a pull up there this is my type of content just blows me away.....another epic hike from you and Billy bob foster.

[@RockStar67]

Thanks buddy my apologies for the late reply 🙄 ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@mjkoehler73]

Another great one! That climb up, oooff, talk about a calf destroyer. The back half looks like a nice ridge walk.

[@KhurshidsChannel]

Wow!! The views are fantastic. Great video. Thanks for sharing. 👍56

[@richardgoodier7512]

By heck “Mountain Goat Marra” - what a walk/trek that was! That’s a serious ascent up that scree slope (Dorehead Screes). What a mountain goat you are! The footage was so atmospheric - the hanging clouds and fabulous views throughout - really takes you there, and gives you a real sense of the terrain and conditions. Very well done. Billy looked in his element. Tek care …. and keep on trekking!

[@RockStar67]

Awww mate absolutely chuffed with that feedback very much appreciated 😊 It's a tough old route nothing technical just roughneck slogging... Lol the way we like it 🤣 Have a great weekend Marra 😊 Tek care stay safe Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@davidmarshall5596]

What a difference in the days, the day after Bank Holiday car park empty, 😂😂excellent Andy!!👍 tough route up & must have got the old circulation going eh?? 😊 ya managed to capture some more excellent footage with the help of the drone too, Billy Bob as always makes it look easy 🐕 interesting what ya said about favourites & they're ALL your favourites 😊😊great walk with you & The Rockstar 🐶🐕❤ by tye way watching this on a day were the forecast is a bad 'un wi lots of rain forecast 😮😮 anyways, keep on keeping on Andy & regards to Tracey & Billy 🎉

[@richardwright9563]

All your vids have been amazing, but for me this has been the best one, absolutely beautiful, ATVB 👍

[@RockStar67]

Thanks Richard lovely feedback very much appreciated 😊 My apologies for the late reply 🙄 ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@cragratoutdoors]

Proper mountain weather and views 👌🏻

[@RockStar67]

Absolutely cheers buddy much appreciated Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@HeatherPark-ij7yz]

Really enjoyed this. The clouds gave some amazingly atmospheric shots. So much better not to have to "share" the hills ! Perhaps many walkers are happy in their own space. Thank you

[@RockStar67]

Thank you Heather very much appreciated 😊 I crave my own time and solitude on the Hills ever since a child I've been very happy in my own company....my apologies for the late reply on this one I've been very busy (life in general) Tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@richardborley7326]

Fab vid Andrew, great shout out for Paul Sharkey, I’ve been using his site and routes for a few years, fantastic. Thanks for sharing mate 🙏🙏🙏

[@RockStar67]

Thanks for watching Richard aye Paul's walking page is fantastic over the years I've often used his routes I've also known Paul for years and had a couple of days out with him he's a great lad and very experienced. Thanks for watching bud tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@stephenoverthrow2463]

Well done chap. Great footage and commentary, gorgeous views. Did that about 20 years ago, but straight up Mosedale to Black Sail pass. Billy's a cracking dog, could almost pass as Allen's dog Blue's brother, from Bush Man and Blue.

[@RockStar67]

Thanks for watching buddy very much appreciated 😊 My apologies for the late reply 🙄 Tek care ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@JPJMando]

Great episode brother 👍

[@RockStar67]

Thanks for watching matey very much appreciated 😊 👍🏻

[@user-ch2oh1km4x]

Another brilliant vid Andy and Billy. What a great route. We have been wanting to do Pillar for a while but can't decide on a route. This has inspired us to get up early, get round to Wasdale Head and do the Mosedale Horseshoe. We probably won't go up the Dorehead screens- looks a tough old slog but might start at Over Beck and go up Yewbarrow first. That'll be on the cards for a few weeks' time when we're up next. Thanks for the inspiration 😂 ATB Brian and Jill 😊😊

[@RockStar67]

Thanks Brian & Jill...Overbeck is definitely the way to go if ya don't fancy the notorious scrambles on ether end of Yewbarrow it can be bypassed on a traverse path up the side taking ya up to the col of Dorehead...thanks as always for watching guys have a fantastic day tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@Hewhowalks-fv5mq]

Well led Billy 😄😄

[@RockStar67]

Thanks for watching buddy very much appreciated 😊 👍🏻

[@ChrisSmith-di7un]

This is a stunning video. I have been looking for a place to take my sons on a wild camp and I think I’ve found it. Cheers Andy

[@RockStar67]

Thanks for watching Chris very much appreciated ...pleased to of help mate. Tek care ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@michaelcatlow8069]

Not done much walking in the West yet so need to head out that way soon. Absolutely stunning views and footage. I fancy this route up but I'd never convince the Mrs to go that way. Not with the kids in tow anyway.

[@RockStar67]

🤣🤣🤣 Don't take the wife up there mate she'll never forgive ya 😂 Thanks for watching buddy my apologies for the late reply 🙄 ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@glyndarby1715]

Hi Andy and Rockstar, wonderful film of an impressive looking walk. Great drone work yet again mate. Listening to you saying how many times you’ve been up some of the fells is so impressive mate, makes my one and only walk up Castle Crag seem poultry but it was still a major achievement for me. Keep them coming mate, they are my breath of fresh air. Cheers Glyn.

[@RockStar67]

Thanks as always Glyn very much appreciated my apologies for the late reply on this one 🙏🏻 Tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@glyndarby1715]

No problamo mate, you must be a busy bloke, cheers Glyn.

[@yvonnebailey9973]

Hi Andy and Billy. Wonderful opening drone footage. The weather looks really good at the moment. Loved the bridge near the pub. Lovely views of the valley just before the terrible rocky climb ( scramble). Always follow the rockstar Billy, dogs usually follow the easiest route (or so I'm told.) Wow you're very brave after that scary climb. Thank you so much for sharing, it's something I will never get to do again. Well done Billy Bob on black crag. Red pike certainly looked much easier. Wow the scenery with the clouds looked spooky, but eerily fantastic Well done Andy and Billy. I didn't know there were 2 black crags either. Some of the terrain is frightening. The drone footage is fantastic, so dramatic. The scenery is magnificent. The river walk at the end was beautiful. Take care and stay safe. Atb to you Tracey and of course Billy Bob.

[@RockStar67]

Apologies for my late reply Yvonne I've been very busy (life in general) thanks as always for watching very much appreciated...that scree path sure is notorious my second time on there and I think probably my last...lol that's untill some one asks me to join them for another go 😂😂.... Never say never 🤣 Tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@ireneboston7953]

That's a brutal route up or down, Andy. well done for doing it and managing to film at the same time! I remember the rest of the circuit well - I came up in the valley between Yewbarrow and Red Pike last time and did the skyline to Pillar from there - cracking area.

[@RockStar67]

Not a nice route Irene I'd forgotten how bad...i think that's my second and last time up Dorehead Screes...Wainwright has it in his book as a way up...hells fire the old boy must of been fit or maybe young 🙄 The route could be done from Overbeck even avoiding the notorious scrambles up and down Yewbarrow using its side traverse path to the col of Dorehead. Thanks as always for watching and the great feedback Irene 😊 ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@ireneboston7953]

@@RockStar67 I reckon that path has deteriorated loads since the old boy did his books. I often re-read the Wainwrights, not only for route ideas before I go and also to see how much the routes have changed afterwards, but just for the pleasure of reading his writing. The old curmudgeon certainly had a way with words! You're right - I did your circuit the Overbeck way last time (I've yet to try to get up Yewbarrow as I'm doubtful the knees would cope with those scrambles) and I'm just remembering, I also went up the Overbeck route to Red Pike and then round the Steeple end of that skyline, coming back down via Scoat Tarn. Must do that again as it was a cracker. I know I've said it before but I really enjoy your videos for the new ideas they give but also the triggering of memories of past routes I've done - nice to relive stuff when I'm now down in Norfolk and only get there occasionally. Keep it up... and keep organising that orchestra! LOL

[@Twa-Dags]

Cracking route Andy! I did question the sanity of going up Dorehead screes until I remembered coming down them, an experience I don't fancy repeating 😂 just checked out Sharkey's alternative route from the Y boulder, that looks really interesting and good fun on the right day!

[@RockStar67]

Aye mate I sometimes question my own sanity...lol I've done a lot worse...but not so much these days I have Billy and Tracey to keep me on't straight and narrow...aye mate the Y boulder route looks a grand route I'll definitely have a bash some time Tek care stay safe Mate thanks for watching ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@tonypilki3]

Another beltin video Andy. I did the horseshoe with my daughters a couple of years ago but did Yewbarrow first. When we got to the col below Stirrup Crag we surprisingly saw a couple nearing the top of the screes. The fellow came up a grassy rake to the right and is wife came straight up the scree. Is there an actual trod on the grass all the way up Andy? What a superb horseshoe though. Views just stunning and even better through the eyes of the drone. Cheers as always Andy and Billy

[@DAoutdoors]

Hi mate, hi Billy. Mega mate, I’m going to do that route, looks amazing. I’ve not done Red Pike or Pillar yet so looks like I’ll be doing that next weekend. Shame the clag was in, but it looked very atmospheric. Nice to see the pins out again, does that mean it’s the official start of summer! 🤣 All the best Marra Dave 😀🥾⛰

[@RockStar67]

Haha aye Marra it's official ☀ ☀ ☀ Mosdales a great route but Dorehead Screes really are as bad as they look there shite!!...i think next time I'd do it from Overbeck the notorious scrambles on ether end of Yewbarrow can also be avoided if required via a lower traverse path bringing you out at the col of Dorehead Thanks as always for watching Dave tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@Butchyboysadventures]

Belting vlog andy pal love the drone here flying in the mist totally agree this is a belting spot never done red pike but its on my list mate for all I did smash one of my drones up here near it and was gutted I did go up the same way as you here but was sick so binned it 1000 quid lighter 😂 but I will return one time with a new drone for it wouldn't mind Trying the other path you pointed out up the side of wall well the bit path you can see anyway good stuff buddy loved the path back down from it looked a great walk back 👍

[@RockStar67]

Thanks as always Butchy 😁 My apologies again! for the late reply 🙄 Tek care ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@hikermikem8]

After doing this route but the other way round. I had to decend via Dore Head screes 14 years ago in my early 40s and even then I vowed never to decend or Assend it again. Very steep, very tricky on the loose screes and had to dig my heals in and concentrate on my desent speed.. Not one for a trip or fall. Great video, brought back memories of the route and proberbly my favourite round 😁

[@RockStar67]

We're about the same age then Mike...lol never say never eh...I'm told if you stop you never get started again lol so that's not gonna happen. My apologies for the late reply on this one mate I've been very busy (life in general) Thanks again Tek care stay safe ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@hikermikem8]

@RockStar67 hi Andy, no worries and thanks for replying. As it happens I've just arrived home from work and was notified of Traceys video which I've just put on. Loch lomond and the trossachs 😁👍 I may be not able to do grade 3 scrambles anymore , but I get out and about as often as I can as life's to short and there is still so much to see and do yet 😁 keep up the good work and excellant video's you two and Billy 🐕

[@RockStar67]

@hikermikem8 thanks buddy much appreciated I've just put another up myself another down Newlands Valley Cat Bells side...enjoy buddy have a great week 👍🏻

[@TonysTrails]

Loved that Andy. Only time I've tried Dorehead Screes it was a miserable day and ended up abandoning. First time I did Pillar it was via the "high level route". Would like to do it again, but not sure if Charlie could do it, as I recall there being a nasty little scramble right at the end, by Pillar Rock. Not sure if I went the wrong way though...

[@RockStar67]

Hiya Tony mate the Shamrock Traverse (High level) dose have a la'al Scramble to the Summit but I think your right you could have gone wrong as I did on my first attempt a lot of years back...it really isn't that bad mate I'm sure Charlie would be fine...regarding Dorehead lol...good call turning back I've now been down and up and in no rush to do it again 🤣 Have a great weekend buddy cuddles for Charlie ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻

[@keithgoulding2806]

Awesome yet again Andy, great footage and great info on the area. I would like some advice from someone in the know, I'm in the market for some new Hiking boots any advice would be greatly appreciated 👍

[@RockStar67]

Hiya Keith thanks for watching buddy much appreciated... I go with Scarpa Rangers love them all year round I'm on my third pair in a row best boots I've ever had...comfortable straight out the box. Have a great weekend bud ATVB Andy and The ROCK STAR ⭐ 🙏🏻