“We’re attacking the symptoms and not the problems”. I cannot tell you how often I’ve seen that with so many issues. Great video
@hippodinoreserve6090 Жыл бұрын
Men are human beings. Women are human beings. We really all have the same needs. Acceptance, community, and someone to have your back.
@healedaries4644 Жыл бұрын
We do have quite a few intersections.
@DavidScott-hi4fz Жыл бұрын
This was really great. One of the things I loved about Everything, Everywhere All At Once was the idea that being kind and supportive as a man can be a strength. Also, I hope Roy gets a shot at hosting the Daily Show. Comedy chops is one thing (which Roy has), but Roy also has the empathy that Trevor had.
@DarylBanttari Жыл бұрын
It's clear to me that Roy is here not to evangelize, but to participate. I feel like I'm learning alongside him, as opposed to having a presupposed agenda projected at me
@roonietunes7 Жыл бұрын
i'm so happy that people, especially men of color-are finally talking about this. finally started therapy at age 53, and a lot of people tell me that they can see the difference.
@wordzmyth Жыл бұрын
That is awesome. Wishing you happiness
@roonietunes7 Жыл бұрын
@@wordzmyth thank you!
@slfranklin9044 Жыл бұрын
I love this comment. Are you seeing the difference?? That's when you'll be able to really exhale. Wishing you a successful new path.
@roonietunes7 Жыл бұрын
@@slfranklin9044 slowly but surely-i think it's great!
@healedaries4644 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations to you courageously changing your responses to loving yourself and those you love. ❤
@objectreborn.artsewing Жыл бұрын
Roy I've gotta say, the caliber of guests you have on just floors me. You find the most sincere, intelligent, and well spoken folks. If I see a book getting plugged, I hurry up and screenshot it because I already know I'll probably want it 😅
@LittleSailboat Жыл бұрын
This whole episode was SOLID. Loved it. Especially the conversation around both men & women being hard & soft.
@brentperez4700 Жыл бұрын
Liked the question, "why do we believe in things that are not true?"
@HeartsinNYC Жыл бұрын
the “steepness of the hill” bit is so powerful. i go bouldering a few times a week and people climb harder routes when people are with their friends or even have strangers/loose acquaintances encouraging them. they will try things they wouldn’t touch otherwise, but feeling supported and that you’ve got folks behind you who care about your success makes all the difference
@ashantiphillips3917 Жыл бұрын
This episode was amazing. My 14-year-old son is struggling with making friends and really opened my eyes trying to find a ways I can help him
@submissiveproviderstboth9485 Жыл бұрын
He could be Autistic ❤
@joelkaplan8435 Жыл бұрын
I have been to therapy for about 5 years and it’s a great thing. So glad that I can teach my son that value
@LB-lx2tf Жыл бұрын
Roy has EVERYTHING that would fill the spot on point. He puts his audience at ease, and he'll call them out also. He can gloss over an issue with his comic wit, and also delve deep into that issue to break it down with or without humor. He has a bottomless fund of info in that gifted mind of his to reach into and discuss any topic. Bottom line, Roy is sidesplitting, fall out your chair laughing, hold your stomach, and laugh till you cry FUNNY. I could go on and on with this. Roy can give what we as Daily Show enthusiasts look for in every show......a winner! 👍🏽👏🏽
@wordzmyth Жыл бұрын
Roy finds a way to take it deeper to the underlying problem. He doesn't just react to what's the obvious problem right now. I have huge respect for Roy.
@cubmexlife8587 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head! I haven't seen this side of Roy and I really loved it. He's multi-talanted.
@sedonarose7563 Жыл бұрын
My vote is Roy should be the next DS host. I always seek out his content and wish there were more! He’s such a pleasure to watch/listen to.
@TheZinmo Жыл бұрын
I loved how visible Roys desire to be the best father he is able to be.
@LDFHollister Жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed Roy Wood Jr. for years. This was down right enlightening. Thank you all!
@SJmystic Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Roy Wood Jr., for taking on this topic and having such great guests on to help the audience learn about this topic. This is SUCH an important topic for us all to live better lives and have a better society/world. And it was helpful to have you share your questions and experiences and be open to discussing things you may have felt vulnerable about. Great modeling there!! I hope MANY people listen to this conversation, and find the strength to open this topic with their loved ones.
@sarahogawa5408 Жыл бұрын
Roy Wood Junior is such an intellectual! I’m always so impressed by his insights.
@hippodinoreserve6090 Жыл бұрын
That fact is, most households need 2 incomes to survive. That’s not mens’ fault. That’s not feminist’s fault. Fight inequality and stagnant wages. Don’t fight each other.
@naylas3908 Жыл бұрын
It IS the patriarchy’s fault, therefore it’s men’s fault. There was a time when people didn’t need 2 incomes. If the MEN in power would have voted laws to keep life as affordable as back then, we wouldn’t need those 2 incomes. It’s not the women who made sure the middle class is doing so much worse and the rich get richer…
@lexruptor Жыл бұрын
@@naylas3908 The Matriarchy, you mean. These days men are treated as second class, women are pandered to constantly, stop spreading misinfo
@the_garniiics Жыл бұрын
We have double the workforce ever since women were allowed to maintain their own income and somehow we manage to have a "labor shortage". And instead of granting more legal immigration to occur to address this the government instead loosens its restrictions on gig workers, tip dependant workers, child labor laws and it's adherence of holding abortion as a constitutional right 🌚
@delnite5825 Жыл бұрын
@@naylas3908 no if youve ever had a basic 9th grade history lesson youd know that isnt true. ever consider that modern issues are due to modern failings as opposed to failings that took place way back when things were going fine by your standards? gender quotas are fking women over as much as men since the jobs that have gender quotas are either highly physically taxing and dangerous or do not allow flexibility for maternity leave. women are no longer finding it socially acceptable to do the jobs they want to do and men are being turned away from jobs they want to do due to their gender.
@abigaillabar8877 Жыл бұрын
"That's not mens fault" yes, the patriarchy is to blame
@julieroberts3871 Жыл бұрын
The hilarious Australian kids show "Bluey" is a brilliant example of how grown ups--especially Dads--can honor the soft side of their kids. Every episode has multiple lessons for parents about how to recognize feelings, normalize feelings, and even gracefully apologize when they've hurt--or even just not noticed--their kids feelings. The whole series is a splendid parenting how-to course!!
@benjaminalexander7028 Жыл бұрын
I don't even have kids, and Bluey is an absolute joy to watch! My niece will stay the weekend with me sometimes, and I definitely learn from and enjoy Bluey as much as or more than she does.
@muthonirichards6211 Жыл бұрын
You HAVE to do part 2. Even better a whole series.
@wordzmyth Жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the best things I have watched. An equal society is where everyone has an equal right to be and feel human
@cubmexlife8587 Жыл бұрын
100% agree, this is desperately needed right now.
@lbjcb5 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this comversation is happening more. Emotions and feelings are simply human! This is all "about calling men into a healthy respect for themselves and for boys."
@commandermomida-je8ny Жыл бұрын
Kindness, compassion, and vulnerability are not a weakness, these are enduring strengths reflected by internal resilience that can be impermeable. Thank you for this conversation, I hope it is heard far and wide and often. I will continue to have these encouraging, nurturing conversations with my young boys. Roy, your guests are great and you're effing amazing!
@recycleme1224 Жыл бұрын
I'm with your Roy. I have one son, so you are learning as you go and you have the smallest sample size. When I was pregnant with my son (my 3rd child), I got a couple of books on raising boys. Not sure if they helped. But I've tried to raise all 3 of my kids the same, with empathy, boundaries, security and safety, and curiosity. My son is 17 now and I'm going to share this video with him because it's important. So far, he has continued to impress me with his empathy. He has a nice group of male friends since childhood and I am very happy about that. But we are in the USA and social media and other influences are all around and do impact him. It's never ending, parenting and being concerned for our children. Thanks for putting this one together.
@daveedheard742 Жыл бұрын
These 2 guests should write a book together, I really mean it, they should put a book together.
@farahalvin8806 Жыл бұрын
This was an EXTRAORDINARY conversation. I am incredibly grateful for it.
@aylbdrmadison1051 Жыл бұрын
I think Roy should be the new Daily Show host. Why didn't Trevor just pass the torch like Jon did? Did the network not trust him? If not, they should have. Roy has that deep thoughtfulness and compassion.
@LB-lx2tf Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. He would own it! 👍🏽
@stefanhoimes Жыл бұрын
He's a fantastic interviewer on top of being hilarious.
@ethancaldwell2422 Жыл бұрын
Jon didn't choose Trevor to be the new host after him. It wasn't Jon's decision. Jon liked Trevor so Jon gave a strong recommendation to the crew to give the hosting job to Trevor. Trevor still had to audition and everything. If I had to guess, either Trevor didn't advocate strongly for one person in particular, or, because there are different producers now from when Jon was host, they just want to do it differently. Either way, it's very unlikely they're doing it this way due to a negative view of Trevor. We also need to consider the possibility that Roy might not want the position. He's a father of a young boy; he may want to focus more on family.
@advocacynaccountablity Жыл бұрын
Roy keeps bringing in these conversations we MUST have to move forward as a larger American community. Thank you!!!
@monicafelstead3260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all so much for this discussion, we badly need these ideas in the world. Plain old platonic friendship can bring monumental healing to the world. It would prevent most mass shootings, for one thing. We need to treat each other gently.
@Tanagra180 Жыл бұрын
Love, love, these behind the scenes with Roy. I could listen to him attack these complex subjects all day long!
@awesomeperson41210 Жыл бұрын
Roy is such a respectful interviewer. I feel like other podcast hosts are always interrupting their experts to but in but Roy doesn’t do that. I appreciate him
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Жыл бұрын
Powerful discussion. Thank you as always, Roy Wood Jr.!!!
@a.b.x.8395 Жыл бұрын
What a great and wonderful conversation, and you are completely right; the people are starving for this kind of conversation all over the world. Thank you!
@cubmexlife8587 Жыл бұрын
I love this conversation! This is what many people who don't understand these issues must listen to. Unfortunately the close mindedness of people are causing so much division. I believe truly in our family moto "True education starts at home". I have shared this video with a handful of family(Especially my son's)and friends. Thank you Roy and all who participated in making this possible, It was POWERFUL!!!
@owenbstronger Жыл бұрын
Such powerful stuff here. I’ve often commented in Sociology courses about the lack of connection among young men and the connection between how we shape boys’ minds and the gun violence we currently experience. We have been, as a society, doing this demographic a huge disservice.
@kateh4595 Жыл бұрын
I have greatly enjoyed Roy Wood Jr's segments on the Daily Show. I stumbled onto this by accident. It is so nice to see another facet of his creativity and wisdom. This discussion is rich and nuanced and touching. I don't normally make time to listen to podcasts but am already looking forward to listening to the one about the Matilda effect and more. Nice podcast but I think this should be more than a podcast--I'd like to see it evolve into like a Netflix Series. Thanks Roy. Keep up the wonderful work and creativity!
@rebeccageiger9110 Жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion! I think men are becoming better fathers over time. People in my generation (gen x) made a conscious effort to be there more than their dads and younger people are striving to be even better. I hope this is shared among young men who respect you as a comedian.
@roonietunes7 Жыл бұрын
yes! and i think it's paying off when i hear younger people-especially men of color-talking about this kinda stuff...gives me hope for the future!
@DarylBanttari Жыл бұрын
When your kids are going harder than you.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJvWamibrM2eoLs
@TheBarmixer Жыл бұрын
Emotional vulnerability is bravery.
@sleepnomore6065 Жыл бұрын
This conversation is brilliant! When it first started and that guy started talking all that feminist stuff I knew I was gonna stay and watch the whole thing!
@NikiFoxE Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a powerful discussion. Culture won't change on its own. We need this information to spread as far as possible.
@Sundayjean Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent conversation! I am a Well-being and Mental Health Coach and I 💯 agree with what was shared. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@duanemahabir1573 Жыл бұрын
With that being said when my grandmother passed away last year I cried a hurtful cry for hours. And that's ok. Being emotionally compromised will make you physically sick. How many people get sick from stress
@ritamariekelley4077 Жыл бұрын
Way to go!!
@wordzmyth Жыл бұрын
That is such a healthy response. Grief for a beloved grandparent is necessary because you are losing one of the people who loves you unconditionally. We need to check in with men who don't cry to see if they are OK in themselves.
@angel21991 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm happy you found healthy ways to release that grief and let your system find spaces and moments of rest and release through a process that has a timeline of its own. Thank you for sharing this. We need to make it ok to release stressful energy that wells up us in response to many stressful and painful experiences in life. We often get shamed out of this very useful release response for both genders in most brown households. Or we make this release a sign of immaturity when it's a very healthy way to move your system from stress to reset and transition us to the next step of processing the experience we are going through
@derheadbanger9039 Жыл бұрын
This should be mandatory to all kids, teachers and parents!
@juliet9548 Жыл бұрын
My ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE episode of this podcast thus far .
@oa8420 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe it; I thought the daily show was comedy only. What fantastic content! 👏🏿
@suekelsey1329 Жыл бұрын
Watching this on TV and I am letting you know that I am enjoying it A LOT. Thank you for your comments 😊👍
@LisaHart17 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for continuing this conversation. It gives me hope. Also reminds me of a young Indian boy, about 8 or 9 being interviewed and asked what he was most not looking forward to about getting older. His response, with a shy, sad look was 'eveteasing'. He knew he would be expected to do this and didn't want to.
@tomh.1336 Жыл бұрын
The impact this show and this segment in particular have can't be overrated. Thank you so much! I'm working with children and considered myself aware of stereotypes, fixed roles andxall that for a long time now. But even something so apparently self-evident as the fact you shouldn't use your partner as a cheaper, more comfortable form of therapy (to their detriment) needs to be said by eloquent and educated people to get through to you. It open my eyes to my warped idea of what my partner should be for me.
@kristinnelson-patel442 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this conversation. It’s so so so important. The kids are telling us to fix this, and they are right. I find so much hope when people with platforms talk like this.
@grandmaplaysagame Жыл бұрын
THIS is the cultural sea-change I'm working toward. Thank you, Roy for providing a platform for this discussion and education. Men deserve better from our culture.
@MinniMintz Жыл бұрын
This rings so true I can't believe I haven't heard about it before. My dad is definitely stuck in masculinity a bit. I am too, a bit, because I was the tomboy growing up and I modeled myself after my dad. Its really hard to break the cycle, so I'm glad it's being talked about.
@joshuadimasaka Жыл бұрын
Love this video! Can relate! I feel like, after watching this episode, I've got some hope of how to be a great dad! Thanks!
@tashinaking3198 Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing conversation! And Roy Wood Jr is a fantastic host! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️
@dorothea_walland Жыл бұрын
such an important topic. and just like racism, discrimination of women or poverty, it concerns us all. men raised to objectify women and not being able to show feelings and closeness grow up to be fathers, politicians, teachers... and it hurts them and it hurts everyone else around them. just like girls growing up to be objectified and discriminated against hurts everyone. and of course, as long as women cannot make the same money, the pressure on men to provide stays up there... so none of this can be solved separately, we are interwoven. as a mother of both boy&girls, as a woman, partner, employee... thank you for this!!! 🙏❤️
@kristinehoya7396 Жыл бұрын
I lied to my son and my husband every time they saw me with that look on my face: They asked, "What's wrong, are you ok? " And I said, "nothing. I"m fine." Or "I'm just tired." I taught my son, inadvertently, to lie about how we are feeling. I was not truthful about how I was feeling, they clearly saw it. I wish I had the tools to just be HONEST and say, "I'm pretty sad right now, I'm not really up for talking about it, but thank you for asking." BE HONEST because otherwise, we're just showing our kids it's better to stuff away how we're really feeling as opposed to facing the truth.
@PaulHo Жыл бұрын
This episode is so extremely powerful.
@YossiPeretz Жыл бұрын
Roy Wood Jr. should be The Daily Show host!
@david.sivella Жыл бұрын
Roy. Outstanding.
@lorrainescandia6267 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent behind the scenes podcast. The discussion was needed. This has been going on way too long. Thanks.👍👏👏
@something64 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating guests and great discussion
@Abigail-ns2fk Жыл бұрын
This is such a wonderful and necessary segment
@barleigh234 Жыл бұрын
One of the smoothest, most-nuanced discussions on life’s contradictions that I’ve found on this dystopian site💜💜💜
@caradelsol1 Жыл бұрын
I love Roy in this format!
@katebl2704 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this incredible episode!
@jimmoriarty9440 Жыл бұрын
I really needed this right now. Thank you all!
@yarnpower Жыл бұрын
Loved this! I am sharing it with my two grown sons.
@hope.8. Жыл бұрын
This Truth needs to be Every Where!
@aliciastanley5582 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video & conversation. Thanks
@aylbdrmadison1051 Жыл бұрын
I saw Ted Bunch and his lovely son Jalen in the show _We Are Man Enough._ I loved them and also highly recommend the show.😊
@DeeWeber Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this conversation.
@gyaaaldenyc Жыл бұрын
Superb episode! Go Roy go! This is everything we needed and more.
@gailforbes7834 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! So deeply true! I wonder if there is a connection to this and studies that show men in marriages or committed relationships live significantly longer lives than those who do not. Men indeed get most of their “ soft” side in relationships with women. Women on the other hand not so much. Being the vulnerable open person in most relationships with others is exhausting in and of itself and the suggestion of therapy is so helpful for all of us as we go through this change in our culture! So on this International Women’s day, let us all im race our fundamental humanness and our need for each other in community!👍🏻❤️🙏🏻
@ruthpicon2203 Жыл бұрын
Roy, great episode and guests, thank you. A lot was covered in 1 hr. Hope you follow it up with part 2. A book that folks may want to check out that touches on what was discussed today is, "The Myth of Normal, Trauma, Illness & Healing In A Toxic Culture by Dr. Gabor Mate.
@elisap1098 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic and insightful story! Loved the healthy and vulnerable conversations that happened here. Keep up the great work everyone... it'll make a difference... one moment, one hour, one day at a time.
@Libaws Жыл бұрын
Wow guys, you have been listening. Seeing us 🙏❤️🙏 we are the change
@marknason4572 Жыл бұрын
Very interested in this conversation. Thanks for providing it!
@dinawindartfoundation4592 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you.
@lilaaporia7616 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is beautiful. 💜💜💜
@lynnettegort4582 Жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful & fascinating conversation!
@Gihad97 Жыл бұрын
I always tell people I like gardening and flowers and it surprises them sometimes. I loved making my flower bed. It was very nice. Brightened the house and it was a nice physical thing to do. Very therapeutic
@Gihad97 Жыл бұрын
We do have to keep in mind we are talking about western society. In the Middle East, hugging, kissing on the cheek, holding each others arms, and these kinds of physical affection is normal. Calling each other compliments is pretty normal overseas.
@henryng9584 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating discussion.
@erinh9267 Жыл бұрын
Excellent episode
@hassanshariff Жыл бұрын
I was with a feminist for a long time and when my dad died she just patted my shoulder and went back to work the next day. I wanted a connection but these things even go to women's view of emotions in men. I could tell she was uncomfortable and said you'll be fine. Its our job women and men, to dismantle these boxes together. This was great!
@johnglow7845 Жыл бұрын
Yes many women who say "I want men to be more "valunrable and open" aren't being honest, truth is many women are their own enemies and help to push the very messages they claim to be against.. We should hold women who are misogynious accountable for their ways in order to really put a stop to the bs and start the healing but yeah.. I don't see this ever happening at least not in our life time.
@MrTekniqs Жыл бұрын
The issue is the individual not the group. My wife is a feminist and compassionate.
@hassanshariff Жыл бұрын
@@MrTekniqs not blaming a group just using that to illustrate that a view of masulicinity can come from groups in their own journey for a culture shift. Because it's built into our culture to feel uncomfortable when a men is vulnerable. Let's not focus on a label but the problem. So we can all work together to fix it.
@BroadwayDuchess13 Жыл бұрын
@Hassan Shariff Well, no. Your intention may have been to illustrate a point without blaming a group, but that's not what you did. Your example does not show that your former partner's identity as a feminist was the cause of her inability to show you compassion. Your point that she was uncomfortable would have been made without the mention of feminism. That you thought it was germane speaks more of your internalized prejudice rather than her, or anything related to the video.
@JohnHudert1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you, Roy.
@abby-gu2su Жыл бұрын
Great segment. So important to discuss this
@offtarget1758 Жыл бұрын
Loved this episode so much!!
@leannereed2790 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic piece y'all!! 💚
@760mom Жыл бұрын
I love this. Thank you
@moshirofumamoto5820 Жыл бұрын
I live alone. In constant depression people say I can make it alone. Those people are successful, but very conditioned. full of family and friends to get support. I don't.
@aevans5792 Жыл бұрын
i love this! thank you roy
@AdopteeHonesty Жыл бұрын
Loving this! By the way, if you're alive, you need therapy. Life is hard. Much love to all reading this.
@amy6890 Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome vid, thanks for this!!
@anneruby4182 Жыл бұрын
THE most important job in this society is homemaking; making homes for each other, for children, for our elderly relatives. Of course both genders need equal access to employment and compensation opportunities. But even discussions like this assume that workplace equality takes precedence over making a home. Home is a place for vulnerability and safety, rest and recovery, peace and acceptance. It takes time to make a home. It takes enough income to make a home, not a lot of money, but enough. Home making is an afterthought now.
@marcinafaithalbert6841 Жыл бұрын
This was a great conversation, but it would have been COMPLETE with an African-American woman expert on the panel. Roy, don't leave us out of these types of conversations. Black women experts are RAISING Black boys and can add so much. (I don't understand why this happens on this show???)
@nealjohnson1500 Жыл бұрын
You're a GD national treasure, RWJ.
@DeeWeber Жыл бұрын
18:08 Exactly. And it's so wrong.
@chironatlas5868 Жыл бұрын
Roy your hairline is receeding faster than the ice caps. Much love to you my brother. Always a wonderful podcast. Just keeping it light!
@mmb628jr2 Жыл бұрын
Great Topic. Great Convo…
@jordanstark5924 Жыл бұрын
As someone that has been very confused about what to label themselves this was a pretty interesting conversation. I remember telling my dad when I was like 6 I felt like half boy half girl and he immediately dismissed me. I really do dislike how everything has to be gendered for some reason. If women want to have short hair or men want to wear dresses, like who cares? Who does it benefit to making this weird arbitrary divide between half the population? I am... relatively optimistic we'll get past it but perhaps not in my lifetime
@roonietunes7 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 54 year-old asian schoolteacher who loves pink and hello kitty and stuffed animals and kilts and sarongs...i've been called a "tomgirl,' and I love it. i also raised a teenage daughter by myself. i do still get embarassed when i cry in front of my students...but I don't try to stop the tears, anyway...
@msde625 Жыл бұрын
Anger is an emotion, crying is an action verb. So tell me who's the real emotional human? "Things that make you say 'Hhmmm'!"
@ritamariekelley4077 Жыл бұрын
Anger is usually a reaction to being hurt.
@PBthesquirrel Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear these experts talk about the manosphere (pickup artists, that kind of thing)
@oldtimerv7 Жыл бұрын
Great show, Thanks
@leslieboles6439 Жыл бұрын
Let me tell you, women are being told to be emotionless too.
@margaretmae5754 Жыл бұрын
I see this in the cruel “humorous” repartee female tv characters engage in. June Cleaver was one extreme and these “models” of behavior are the other
@GewoonGw Жыл бұрын
I love when they say: im gonna be the voice of all the woman of the world". I mean I'm not saying we don't have the same issues at all but in some countries in Europe this balance is already so much more advanced. There are still large pockets of old ways, but a lot of young people are already in a much better space because there is room to talk about it