What Happened to the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel?

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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Жыл бұрын
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@stevenpictures1
@stevenpictures1 Жыл бұрын
Correction: the Book of Mormon makes no reference to where the lost ten tribes went and only details people of the tribe of Judah and Joseph traveling to the americas
@eladjellinek843
@eladjellinek843 Жыл бұрын
Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe. Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes. Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays. So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.
@Love-One-Another
@Love-One-Another Жыл бұрын
Read Jeremiah 31 New Covenant and you'll find out who the House of Israel is. They were given something that the House of Judah was not. Once you figure it out, you will be shocked.
@samassonz
@samassonz Жыл бұрын
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@edgeoftheknife5324
@edgeoftheknife5324 Жыл бұрын
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@zacharyhenderson2902
@zacharyhenderson2902 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine searching for a lost tribe, having everybody telling you that you're wrong, and then finding an extent group of religiously Jewish people exactly where you believed you would? What a feeling that would be.
@Journeyman107
@Journeyman107 Жыл бұрын
In America of course
@zacharyhenderson2902
@zacharyhenderson2902 Жыл бұрын
@@Journeyman107 what?
@Willy_Tepes
@Willy_Tepes Жыл бұрын
@@zacharyhenderson2902 You can find them where power and riches is to be found..
@Ahasverus92
@Ahasverus92 Жыл бұрын
Keep imagining because it hasn't happened for thousands of years and chances "you" are just wrong
@Journeyman107
@Journeyman107 Жыл бұрын
@@zacharyhenderson2902 My son
@ezrapark9992
@ezrapark9992 Жыл бұрын
The name “lost” makes people want to find them. They were lost as in dead, vanished, absorbed. Some of them became Samaritans
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Here they are kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 Жыл бұрын
Technically they were all lost, at least for 40 years.
@TemvikMambu
@TemvikMambu Жыл бұрын
They are pastun tribe in afganistan now
@johnbarker256
@johnbarker256 Жыл бұрын
Damn spoiler alert much
@Bobson_Dugnutt_Esq
@Bobson_Dugnutt_Esq Жыл бұрын
I think the vast majority of them likely became samaritans
@zenverak
@zenverak Жыл бұрын
I think my favorite thing in your videos if none of it comes across as judgmental about different beliefs. You’re studying religion/culture as part of a peoples and I love it.
@samnadim9913
@samnadim9913 4 ай бұрын
Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
@diktatoralexander88
@diktatoralexander88 19 күн бұрын
It is really good, and helps people understand this stuff. I think most scholars when they truly get into it, either feel 'nothing new under the sun' or perhaps are spiritual themselves. The most stiff-necked people against religion in my experience are American Christians, to them it matters so much what people believe or do differently that they have to say something against it. That and your run of the mill undergrad atheist who's experience with religion is their asshole parents.
@Innomenatus
@Innomenatus 9 ай бұрын
You can actually find this identity of the Samaritans when a Samaritan woman talked to Jesus, and talks about their shared ancestry.
@amram1305
@amram1305 9 ай бұрын
Your right...she is of the Northern Kingdom and Christ is Southern Kingdom, but both are Israelites. Their father Jacob had the well built.
@stevemcgroob4446
@stevemcgroob4446 Жыл бұрын
It always sounded weird to me when reading about the Samaritans in the Bible. It came off as the author was trying really hard to convince me that the Samaritans were in no way related to the 10 tribes, but he also wasn't doing a good job of it.
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Here's more info on the lost tribes. Enjoy kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs
@lobsterbalelegesse9919
@lobsterbalelegesse9919 Жыл бұрын
Samaritans are coverts they are not the 12/13 tribes.
@tagbarzeev3571
@tagbarzeev3571 Жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites have been in israel for thousands of years and they have had their dna tested.The tests show that the Samaritans Israelites have similar DNA to many Diaspora groups who live in Israel. Shen et al Reconstruction of the Matralineges and Patralineges of Samaritan Israelites or blog.23and me genetics of the Samaritan Israelites.
@tagbarzeev3571
@tagbarzeev3571 Жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites are from Manasseh Ephraim and Levi
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 Жыл бұрын
I had always thought the Samaritans were mixed race Jewish and their Babylonian(?) captors. Or maybe the Israelites eventually returning from captivity and intermarrying the people that settled there in their absence.
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
Great video Dr. Henry, though I did have one issue with the insistence of this being an "unprecedented" phenomenon. What we see happening with the legend of the 10 tribes is actually quite a common occurrence in the historical record. As non literate people came into contact with literary cultures and adopted their view of history, they crafted new legends to place themselves within that new history. The Romans did it by tracing themselves back to the Trojans, as did the Irish in the Book of Invasions. Later, in West and East Africa, royal dynasties also crafted legends that connected themselves with Muhammad and his close followers in order to assert their own legitimacy as Islamic rulers. Modern day Chinese Christians even do something similar by making the 3 Magi in the Jesus birth story Chinese. It's all about trying to make sense of one's own people in the context of a foreign narrative.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 Жыл бұрын
So did the British and the Franks, both of whom have epics tracing their origin back to escapees from the fall of Troy. These are not part of their Germanic heritage, but came much later from educated writers. Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century History of the Kings of Britain traces the people of Celtic Britain back to a descendant of Aeneas named "Brutus."
@mugikuyu9403
@mugikuyu9403 Жыл бұрын
@UCx3gsrPNyQiwbxmIMM82oIQ The change would be much appreciated even if you consider it to be self-evident. I simply don’t want Muhammadans thinking that their part in our history was something it wasn’t. If anything even the small part such people have played has, on the whole, affected this continent negatively. Proud nations have been turned into rubble under the explosive savagery of Muhammadanism. It would be nice to see the evidence that dynasty’s in west Africa were doing that! I don’t doubt it but I suspect you’re overplaying just how much it happened. Interesting that you say nothing about North Africans who were so thoroughly conquered by Meffistanis that they now call themselves Arabs and couldn’t tell you their own ethnic group if you asked them 😭
@glenngordon2352
@glenngordon2352 Жыл бұрын
Thousands of years ago Pyramids were built all over the world. People in Egypt didn't know that people in South America even existed. What they all have in common is the gods came from the sky, the stars. If someone or something can come from the stars it's possible that people could go the other way. We all have different opinions but it's a fact that they all said their gods came from the sky.
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
@@glenngordon2352 lol is this your alt account Graham Hancock? Head on back to Ancient Aliens; I'm talking about actual history here.
@mugikuyu9403
@mugikuyu9403 Жыл бұрын
@@bearlytamedmodels Is that right? Please explain.
@scripturequest
@scripturequest Жыл бұрын
There's a good reason why the tribe of Simeon isn't mentioned in Deuteronomy Chapter 33, that being that Jacob cursed Simeon's tribe and said they would be scattered within Israel, because of their violence and cruelty against the men of Shechem. By the book of Numbers, the tribe of Simeon is the smallest to leave Egypt. I think their absence is a sign of the fulfilment of Jacob's curse upon them.
@mariagutierrezacevedo9526
@mariagutierrezacevedo9526 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video Dr. Henry, concise, precise and well-researched as usual. I suggest that you should make a video explaining and comparing the differences between the samaritan and the jewish pentateuch
@sampoth9564
@sampoth9564 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I took dr Tobolowsky’s History and Religion of Ancient Israel class just to fill out credits in college and its what got me into religious studies. Small world I guess
@janelackey608
@janelackey608 Жыл бұрын
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@allium2718
@allium2718 Жыл бұрын
dude has a great smile
@jonnydent825
@jonnydent825 Жыл бұрын
I don't know that we can say it's entirely unparalleled. The Romans had a myth that they were the descendants of the survivors of Troy after all.
@Lisa-my5sy
@Lisa-my5sy 3 ай бұрын
A lot of Italians have Anatolian dna
@hdde8888
@hdde8888 10 ай бұрын
1:48 Historical Origins of the Legend 8:43 The Samaritans 11:58 Eldad Hadani 12:50 The Book of Mormon 13:20 The Patriarchal Blessing 17:06 Research on Genealogies
@averageday
@averageday 10 ай бұрын
Ok
@gleidhold
@gleidhold 6 ай бұрын
Very informative episode, thank you for sharing.
@ewanhopper4275
@ewanhopper4275 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel it’s good there’s a whole community of religious scholars providing content like this on KZbin I appreciate you
@mysticwanderer4787
@mysticwanderer4787 Жыл бұрын
The bottom line is, that the tribes of the Northern Kingdom were likely either assimilated into the Assyrian population which itself was quite diverse, fled to Judah, or fled to some other place nearby. The only thing that is "lost" are the minds of those pursuing the myth of the lost tribes of Israel.
@Brahmdagh
@Brahmdagh Жыл бұрын
Like he said in the video, Empires don't generally have the incentives or the resources to move entire nation worth of ready-made taxable peasantry. They generally just take the shcolars and artisans to their capital. The peasantry remained the same, even the crusaders didn't dismantle that rural peasantry of the region.
@iqweaver
@iqweaver Жыл бұрын
@@Brahmdagh The Assyrians did, and later the Romans did too. It was a good method for control. Resettling tribal groups were they had no local allegiance made them less likely to rebel,
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 Жыл бұрын
Tbf tho it was reported that some of the exiled Samaritans moved to Greece in the 2nd century BCE but they weren't very popular at all
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 Жыл бұрын
@@iqweaver naa historically speaking the Romans were the real first ethnic cleansers in the region. Pre-roman Classical era deportation would just be of elites who could galvanise the populous into revolting against them
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 Жыл бұрын
I'd actually argue some of the "lost tribes" of Israel (i.e. people with Samaritan lineage) can be found in some northern Palestinian west bank villages. These are people who would've been forced to convert to Christianity especially under crusader rule or Islam after the Islamic conquest of the region as they unfortunately weren't seen as 'People of the Book' like Jews and Christians were. Surnames like al-Kahen (literally the arabicised version of the hebrew Cohen/priest) are a dead giveaway, for example. If they didn't keep that part of their identity and went 100% Muslim they'd have an actual arabic surname like al-Mulla or something.
@user-rx2wq6se7h
@user-rx2wq6se7h Жыл бұрын
The Ethiopian Jewish came during King Solomon’s time (they are the first born child of King Solomon’s officials). The story is that Ethiopia’s Queen Sheba came to visit King Solomon, the were intimate at one point. When the Queen Sheba left, Israel, King Solomon gave Queen Sheba a ring and said “when you go back home and found yourself with my child, send him/her to me with this ring so I will know my child” After 18 years Queen Sheba’s son Prince Minlike came to Israel and presented himself (with the ring) to King Solomon. King Solomon was very happy and was shocked Prince Minlike’s resemblance to King David (his father). Moving forward, when the Prince went back to Ethiopia, for whatever reason, the first born of King Solomon’s officials went to Ethiopia with him. The Ethiopian Jewish are the descendent of this group.
@jonathankriesler2037
@jonathankriesler2037 5 ай бұрын
Doesn’t seem very historically consistent. Firstly, why after 18 years? 18 years of age being the threshold to adulthood is an extremely modern idea. In Jewish tradition age 13 in the threshold or perhaps a little older for such a long trip but still 18 would have been completely arbitrary and unlikely. Also as you might know, sub Saharan Africa was almost completely cut off from the rest of Africa and euroAsia historically due to the huge dessert of wasteland between and mostly had trading ties with the Indian Ocean trading routes. So for the Queen and later the prince to make that kind of trip to a land they had absolutely no previous relation with seem extremely unlikely and borderline mythical. Their then later connection or claims of connection likely came from the Arab peninsula of which they were far more likely to be connected to.
@rustomkanishka
@rustomkanishka 3 ай бұрын
It seems most of them made it to Israel in the second half of the 20th century. Unfortunately, they aren't really well-accepted by Israeli society at large. Pity.
@StopTheLiess
@StopTheLiess 2 ай бұрын
No we didn’t. Queen Saba was already a first testament believer that’s why she has two names. One is her baptism name, Makeda and the other her birth name Saba
@StopTheLiess
@StopTheLiess Ай бұрын
@@BR-bi7ok that’s man made. We never had our land stolen or her lost any wars like the others through the protection of God
@robertocabuyoc2819
@robertocabuyoc2819 Ай бұрын
There is no lost ttibe,please dig so much the legit history about the 10 tribes.My country now a day called Philippines.Before the Spanish came Armada de Spaña the name of this archaepelago is Ophir.Please make your research more deeply
@nobodyatall4002
@nobodyatall4002 6 ай бұрын
The Book of Mormon is my favorite fan fiction ever!
@nathanr.9507
@nathanr.9507 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this while finishing my late night assignments. Love how interesting the topics that never even cross my mind can be.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot Жыл бұрын
The Babylonians apparently did the same thing when they deported the Hebrews to Babylon, they only took the elites and those who had certain skill sets.
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Here you go more info 😁💙... kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs
@jr2904
@jr2904 Жыл бұрын
Showing diversity of thought and skill is important, not race or color. Meritocracy is the only way to survive, since we don't have to worry about survival of the fittest any longer.
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
It would be impractical and pointless to do any more than that. Imagine the logistics and resources it would take to transport an ENTIRE kingdom's worth of people. Even today it would be a massive undertaking.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Жыл бұрын
@@porkadillo9752 Not really. The Trail of Tears was accomplished fairly cheaply. You'd be surprised how easy mass deportations can be done with just the right amount of political will, and these kingdoms of antiquity were much smaller. I'm not saying that this was what happened, just that it isn't as difficult as some people make it sound.
@new_comment
@new_comment 9 ай бұрын
There are no "lost tribes", the Lord doesn't lose what is His.
@amram1305
@amram1305 9 ай бұрын
He scattered us into every nation because of our iniquity. Now as prophecied we r waking up.
@samiam1875
@samiam1875 12 күн бұрын
Lost means "that they forgot about their history and customs"
@jordancasti11o
@jordancasti11o Сағат бұрын
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and am part of the tribe of Manasseh! An important aspect of the beliefs about the tribes is that we believe people are also adopted into Israel. Not everyone is a literal descendant.
@aldontheelf4267
@aldontheelf4267 Жыл бұрын
This is really good. I just showed my family your video on the Samaritans and this feels like a timely prequel.
@RKMalo13
@RKMalo13 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your content. Please don't ever stop sharing this awesome information!
@israelinyou2020
@israelinyou2020 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. The Samaritan neighborhood on Mount Gerizim is not in the Palestinian Authority but in Israeli territory (area c) and there is also a national park of the Nature Authority there that is worth visiting
@travisclementsmith6949
@travisclementsmith6949 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful presentation! In astrotheological thinking, "12" represents the Zodiac, and the sun's "journey" through them usually represents God or a hero of God. Thus, 12 tribes of Israel, 12 helpers of Horus, 12 labors of Hercules, 12 prominent Gods in a Western pantheon. I believe Ishmael goes on to have 12 sons as well. This is probably why the ancient editors chose 12 as the number of tribes, as it confers a Divine order or plan providing an identity beyond self or tribe to bind people to.
@solokalnesaltam3015
@solokalnesaltam3015 Жыл бұрын
Great episode! Always a good day when RFB uploads
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Heea a great video on the 12 lost tribes kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs
@friedemannkemm63
@friedemannkemm63 Жыл бұрын
An interesting point is that according to the biblical reports in 2 Kings and especially 2 Chronicles about Hezekiah and Josiah, many Israelites remained back in northern Israel. Thus, the traditional interpretation of 2 Kings 17 would even contradict the Bible itself.
@andrewstaples7544
@andrewstaples7544 Жыл бұрын
They're not lost They're scattered throughout throughout the world read Isaiah 11: 11-12
@avjack2702
@avjack2702 10 ай бұрын
We're still here though lost in minds ❤
@omfgstrid
@omfgstrid Жыл бұрын
This is a lovely and informative episode as usual. I rly didn’t care much about religious scholarship before I came across this channel but I’m glad I did
@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017
@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017 Жыл бұрын
So you like the Kool Aid he is sharing, 😢poor lost soul , wondering about the lost tribes 🤣😄😂😃
@omfgstrid
@omfgstrid Жыл бұрын
@@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017 such weird energy to bring cuz why????
@stultusvenator3233
@stultusvenator3233 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is fascinating, and it seems many "religious scholars" do indeed say different things in Academic Circles and at Conferences than they do when doing apologetics or getting paid to address church groups. A wicked web indeed. What we learn or have been told often is more tradition or doctrine, than it is based in any fact and so much has been completely overturned by research, discoveries and archelogy. Make you think.
@raguelelnaqum
@raguelelnaqum Жыл бұрын
A good video, although I think it's important to asterisk note however that historically there were well-documented Jewish communities in Axum & Ethiopian predecessor states well before the establishment of the Solomonic dynasty. While the Kebra Nagast is largely Solomonic propaganda, Jewish merchants had been travelling to the Horn of Africa long before the Romans & Greeks invaded the region. The Jewish Himyarite empire regularly invaded &/or controlled areas of Modern Day Ethiopia, as well as regions formerly under their domain and/or influence. The case of the Beta Israel is divorced from that of the Mormons in that where the Jewish heritage of the Mormons is largely forged through Replacement Theology, the Beta Israel were born through organic migration & ethnogenesis. While yes Solomonic texts help shape the modern Beta Israel, genetic and archeological evidence both corroborate their pre-Roman Exile Jewish Identity.
@oaktree__
@oaktree__ Жыл бұрын
Well said; frankly it's a bit offensive to see Ethiopian Jews put in the same category as Mormons when it comes to expressing an Israelite identity. Ethiopian Jews have been Jews for thousands of years, with a cultural and religious identity closely tied to other ethnic Jews, even while geographically separated - Mormons are not Jews in any way at all, and their usage of this identity is metaphorical and in service of a non-Jewish proselytizing religion that seeks to (as you said) replace Jews entirely.
@charlesstuart7290
@charlesstuart7290 Жыл бұрын
There is also the Lemba Tribe of South Africa, who have long practiced Judaism, have genetic and cultural links to the Arabian Peninsula which their folklore said was their original home.
@lloydgush
@lloydgush Жыл бұрын
But they still aren't the lost tribe of Dan. Much to the contrary, they are likely from judah, not lost in any sense.
@JohnDoe10350
@JohnDoe10350 Жыл бұрын
Genetic evidence? I've seen the autosomal results of Ethiopian Jews and it was identical to other Ethiopian Christians'. Not even a slight Levant shift. The Afro-Asiatic speaking East Africans, the Jewish ones included, do have significant Levant or Red Sea ancestry, but it's very old and has more to do with Natufians and early pastoralism than spread of Judaism. Eritrean Christians and certain northern Ethiopian ethnic groups have more Levantine DNA than Ethiopian Jews.
@lloydgush
@lloydgush Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe10350 Because ethiopian christians descent from ethiopian jews.
@brazilgool
@brazilgool Жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR SHARING..GOOD EXPLANATION
@worldview730
@worldview730 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, this is a great work of research
@eladjellinek843
@eladjellinek843 Жыл бұрын
Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe. Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes. Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays. So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Here's more info on this topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs enjoy 😁💙
@agis230
@agis230 Жыл бұрын
I find scholars always get details like these wrong but they are sooo sure they are right about what they interpret. They assume way too quickly that every religious text must often be clumsily put together
@eladjellinek843
@eladjellinek843 Жыл бұрын
@@agis230 its not that... The translation between Hebrew wnd English makes mistakes many times and even in Hebrew, remember... Hebrew exist more than 2000 years, some words changed their meaning, and every day Hebrew is a bit different than the Hebrew you'll find in the Bible
@agis230
@agis230 Жыл бұрын
@@eladjellinek843 How is what you're saying any contrary to what I said?
@daveyjuice7710
@daveyjuice7710 Ай бұрын
But they mingled with the women to the north east and that was their blood line gone for ever
@Gargoiling
@Gargoiling Жыл бұрын
I suppose there is a parallel with the way many countries in the ancient and medieval world claimed some sort of ancestral connection to Troy. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the two and what motivates choosing one over the other over time. It also reminds me of the history of Anglo-Saxon England. The earliest real history of the invasions was written by Bede a couple of centuries after the event. This used to be taken pretty much as fact but is now seen partly in terms of later dynasties justifying their position "why I should be king".
@chendaforest
@chendaforest Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. We know very little amount the early Anglo-Saxon migrations. History and mythology have been intertwined for most of, well, history.
@andrewwhelan7311
@andrewwhelan7311 Жыл бұрын
Bede was a prominent racist who never left the village of his birth and got his history second hand and millennia after it was supposed to have happened.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwhelan7311 Racist?
@andrewwhelan7311
@andrewwhelan7311 Жыл бұрын
@@chendaforest Yes. An Anglo centricity focused on a master race narrative that described the native indigenous Briton's as lesser breeds. The ancient Briton's origin myths refer to a migration from the near East via Troy and eventually to the island of Britain. The later attempt by Anglo Saxon royal dynasty's making the Troy connection was cultural appropriation in an attempt to discredit a native lineage that went back centuries before the Saxon's set foot on the island. The same applies to the Arthur stories. Bede was indeed a racist, at least by today's standards.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwhelan7311 well maybe by today's standards but I'm not sure we should judge people from the past by modern values. We doubtless could call him an antisemite and sexists too. It's an interesting to know though how Bede created this fanciful narrative.
@robertcarter8600
@robertcarter8600 6 ай бұрын
Healthy sobering look onto tumultious legends and stories. Thanks!
@donfuego5716
@donfuego5716 6 ай бұрын
This was really informative
@wadp5962
@wadp5962 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch one of your videos I can always count on it being well researched and professionally done, which is why I like watching them. This is no different. If you read the Bible carefully you'll see that it says that once the northern kingdom was conquered there were refugees who fled to the southern kingdom. And I can't tell you how many times I've read Luke 2: 36 until my eyes were opened. It talks about Jesus being presented in the temple and says: "There was also a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher." Asher is one of the so-called lost tribes.
@biosci777
@biosci777 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see someone actually reads the Bible! Yes, and Biblical archaeology has shown that, when the northern kingdom fell, Jerusalem grew to more than twice its former size. Probably, most Israelites in the northern kingdom were dispersed and lost, a Remnant always remained!
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LangThoughts
@LangThoughts Жыл бұрын
An important piece missing from the video is that sometimes the 12 tribes include Levi, but sometimes he is missing, and Joseph is divided into Manasseh and Ephraim. My branch of Judaism teaches that the former is a Theological division into 12, and the latter, a political one, since the Levites were Temple functionaries, and thus had an odd place in the political realm. I am sure other Jewish groups, and different Christian denoms have their own explanation. No matter what, this is why you can have 10 lost tribes and have three left over (12-3=9) because the number 10 is based on the Split Joseph count. Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place. Also, Traditional Judaism has an interesting take that I'm surprised Dr. Henry didn't mention: Jeremiah brought members of the 10 Lost Tribes back to Judah during the reign of Josiah, though the majority of their population stayed "Lost", and thus all 12 tribes exist in Judaism today, but in the Second Temple period, these returned groups were adopted into Judah or Benjamin.
@zimriel
@zimriel Жыл бұрын
"Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place" I am interested in this. Isaac Asimov (in-between science fiction stories) conjectured that Simeon was simply assimilated into Edom, like eastern Reuben into Moab and Ammon. Such Simeonites as didn't want Edom [or Egypt] simply married into Judah. Asimov is like you and like me from the east. More like me (back then) and less like you Asimov didn't care for midrash. So - where's the midrash?
@lobsterbalelegesse9919
@lobsterbalelegesse9919 Жыл бұрын
There are actually 13 tribes, the 12 is from the original 12 sons.
@usmcairbornedaddy3761
@usmcairbornedaddy3761 Жыл бұрын
Lol where are Levi’s made, why did Pilgrims get corn when the Bible says Ruth ate it for dinner?
@kathryngeeslin9509
@kathryngeeslin9509 Жыл бұрын
@@usmcairbornedaddy3761 Not sure what translation you're using (how old its language) but "corn" used to mean "grain" not just "maise", just as "apple" meant "fruit".
@oaktree__
@oaktree__ Жыл бұрын
@@usmcairbornedaddy3761 Yeah, that's a translation thing. The Bible you're probably using uses an old translation for the word grain (in English, the word "corn" used to mean any grain - barley, wheat, emmer, spelt, oats, etc.). In the original Hebrew, the word used is קלי, which of course doesn't mean maize (which did not exist in the Old World until the 15th century), but rather just means roasted or toasted grain. Hope this helps!
@Numba003
@Numba003 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for very interesting listening for my wife and I this evening. I really enjoy learning about the history within and behind the Bible. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@samnadim9913
@samnadim9913 4 ай бұрын
Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
@thewanderingisraelite
@thewanderingisraelite 11 ай бұрын
Strange is it not, that Christ told the Apostles at Mathew 10:5-6, "Go not until the gentiles or the cities of the Samaritans, but to the Lost sleep of the House of Israel." Enough said, but I enjoy your work... Generally..!! Next subject? The 144,000..(chuckle)..!!
@vrmartin202
@vrmartin202 Жыл бұрын
Humans love tribalism. This is certainly the best treatise of this subject I have listened to.
@Bureyeanne
@Bureyeanne Жыл бұрын
Lost 10 tribes may not be a physical description. In this context "lost" may be referring to the idea of having "lost" their history. There are large parts of the world where people's history is lost. For example my family history ends at being the creation of a Norse god, (which is likely a guess from a pre-industrial scholar). The point is the people of Norway for example have "lost" their history.
@aaronhow2568
@aaronhow2568 Жыл бұрын
Great vid here! :) I actually do like the part of scripture that talks about liniages of geneolgy. I find it fascinating! :)
@rainer1980
@rainer1980 Жыл бұрын
You have to remember that a lot of Greeks, and Romans would keep slaves purely as teachers, especially to their children because this was one of the ways they gained more worldly knowledge, and wisdom. The Assyrians exiling intellectuals, artisans, and craftsman to their imperial heartland would have probably been along very similar lines.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 11 ай бұрын
I don't doubt it, put it's amazing we don't have a first hand account. Some trademan that was forced to relocate to Assyria. I guess there was no need, they might have done quite well. And they would have to find someone that was literate, and pay them a hefty fee, etc.
@vincentmoore1058
@vincentmoore1058 Жыл бұрын
An exaggeration of the number of people being killed and removed is not uncommon to the Bible itself. In Joshua, the conquest of Canaan, it says that the tribes of Israel wiped out all the people there, but clearly this is hyperbole because those people show up later in the stories, including the very next book.
@blksmagma
@blksmagma Жыл бұрын
Its also in the Egyptian plagues where it says that a plague specifically for the cattle wipe out the entirety of the Egyptians' cattle, then there's a plague of flaming hail that wipes out the cattle again and then the last plague of the firstborn wipes out the firstborn of the Egyptians' cattle. This isn't even in a new book, its all within like 3 or 4 chapters. Needless to say, the Bible plays very fast and loose with the word "all".
@who167
@who167 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that archeologically there is no evidence for the battles there ever taking place, with one highly arguable exception.
@jeanetteelmore5650
@jeanetteelmore5650 Жыл бұрын
This is how we became misi formed innitially. You haave rehearsed and commtied this to memory very well. You make it sound convincing, which is your intention. YOU AND THOSE YOU REPRESENT CONTINUE TO MISSTATE FACTS, PEOPLE, RESULTS AND TWIST HISTORY. WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL IS NOT TRUE. YOU ARE REALKY INSINUATING THERE R NO LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL
@Dima-px6pr
@Dima-px6pr Жыл бұрын
And they still live to this day
@TheFranchiseCA
@TheFranchiseCA Жыл бұрын
If the Canaanites were defeated and the elites were executed, then it's easy to say they were "destroyed"... but as they re-formed, they would still exist to be fought again.
@bigtex4058
@bigtex4058 9 ай бұрын
If we knew that they would not be lost.
@code-52
@code-52 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for real, documented facts.
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap Жыл бұрын
I think both of the stories of the Samaritans are true. We have good reason to believe that the Samaritans are the literal descendants of the Israelites at the time of the Assyrian conquest. Since the Samaritans only have the Pentateuch and not the whole Tanakh, the obvious first thought might be that they split off from Judah before Joshua and later books were written. But the Samaritan Pentateuch doesn't look like an ancient, pre-Assyrian document. Based on the text, it looks like something from the middle or late Second Temple period. It seems like it isn't even as old as the Septuagint! This would indicate that the Samaritans actually did lose their Israelite culture, and reconstructed it later - just like the Bible says, and completely in keeping with what would be expected if the Assyrians replaced all the elites (including, obviously, the priests). The shorter canon is probably just because Judges and subsequent books (especially Kings) don't paint a particularly positive picture of the Northern Kingdom, and because the prophetic and philosophical sections are extremely Judean in their outlook. Most of the books just wouldn't be relevant. It's certainly an interesting case, no matter what actually happened!
@zimriel
@zimriel Жыл бұрын
There's a Samaritan "book of Joshua" as well which looks like something collected during Late Antiquity. The Samaritans had the problem that, periodically, some outside force would smash them up. Then their children would have to collect the pieces again. Emperor Justinian hit them hard. The Sasanians and the first Muslims were pro-Samaritan (and Heraclius between them left them alone) but then the 'Abbasids hit them hard again.
@user-qh4dr1vy9d
@user-qh4dr1vy9d Жыл бұрын
According to the bible the northern tribes went astray ever since Jeroboam leaded them.
@damiensutanto244
@damiensutanto244 Жыл бұрын
very interesting and plausible point of view
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Жыл бұрын
The Samaritan Pentateuch actually explains Deuteronomy. Historians have long been bothered by the fact that the Deuteronomistic History is very Israeli-centric instead of being Judah-centric as it should be if it was really written in the time of Hezekiah. There are even parts of the Deuteronomistic History which flat-out seem to consider the tribes of Judah and Benjamin as "others". The story of the priests "discovering" Deuteronomy in the Temple may actually reflect a real event given how the Samaritan Deuteronomy is different from the Jewish version. The current scholarly consensus is that the core of our Deuteronomy was written in the northern kingdom as an earlier attempt to centralize worship (of El, not Yahweh) at Mount Gerizim, and that traces of this can be seen in the core of the Samaritan Deuteronomy, even if the rest of the document had been "contaminated" by their reaction to the Judahite version later on. The Judahite priests probably got the original Deuteronomy and accompanying books from Israeli refugees and rewrote that canon to fit their worldview, expanding it include their own royal mythology.
@speedwagon1824
@speedwagon1824 Жыл бұрын
In his video about the samaritans, he states that their torah is as old as the Jewish one
@brianhenry7348
@brianhenry7348 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! What a deeply fascinating subject. New facts and ideas for me to absorb and a new book to read!
@freyatilly
@freyatilly Жыл бұрын
Nice work and presentation. The Ethiopian connection, as I understand it, is an extention to the Yemeni claims. That Sheba was in, what is now called, Yemen. The Queen there traveled to Judia and later returned, possibly bringing an early semblance of the Judaic faith with her. Then, through historic events, those people were scattered and many ended up in neighbouring Ethiopia where strong trade relations and cultural customs were clearly evident.
@Yorktown-pb8bd
@Yorktown-pb8bd 4 ай бұрын
The vast majority ended up in Europe. From there the Bible was spread to the earth. The United States is and always has been the largest producer of bibles in the world. Sorry lot we have for leadership today. Africa did not fulfill the prophecies. My ancestors were Hebrew ostrogoths on the Danube Riveraround 600AD. Yes they were Hebrews.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 10 ай бұрын
I think it's important to consider what was important to people at these times. To the tellers of tales, ordinary people likely didn't matter too much. Thus, if you remove all the members of the ruling class, you have "removed everyone".
@SobekLOTFC
@SobekLOTFC Жыл бұрын
Great job, per usual, Dr Henry 👏
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
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@elfarlaur
@elfarlaur Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. As you said, the place of the Israelites as God's chosen likely had an impact, especially as these theories exploded in the nineteenth century when ideas of racial descent became very significant. I always saw it as a similar phenomenon to the Romans connecting themselves to the Trojans, a people are introduced to a cultural context and want to fit themselves into it. In this case, Christians want to see themselves as more than simply converted Gentiles, instead they want to feel as though there was something there all along, as though their conversion was long in the making and fulfilling their destiny, connecting themselves more directly to the biblical narrative.
@samnadim9913
@samnadim9913 4 ай бұрын
Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
@yiannicart
@yiannicart 11 ай бұрын
It also should be noted that the New Testament mentions some of the lost tribes, such as the prophetess Anna being from the tribe of Asher (Luke 2:36), showing that in the first century, the Israelite tribal identities still existed in the region. Levi, Benjamin and the 'scattered 12 tribes' are all also mentioned throughout the New Testament.
@veritas2145
@veritas2145 Ай бұрын
Those lost tribes are called gentiles, and Greeks in the New Testament.
@RealCurrencies
@RealCurrencies 3 ай бұрын
Weird to discuss this without mentioning the apocryphal texts relating that the remnants of the Ten Tribes managed to escape the Assyrians, and went through 'the Gates of the Caucasus.
@berwinenzemann3468
@berwinenzemann3468 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if someday we discover aliens on another planet some people will still make the assumption that we discovered one of the lost tribes of Israel.
@algepaca
@algepaca Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@JezielProdigalSon
@JezielProdigalSon Жыл бұрын
The children of Eliah ;)
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
There are some people practically doing that already and we haven't even found evidence of aliens yet. Never underestimate the capacity of the human imagination.
@pennyforyourthots
@pennyforyourthots Жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely. People already believe that gods themselves are aliens, so I wouldn't be surprised
@berwinenzemann3468
@berwinenzemann3468 Жыл бұрын
@@pennyforyourthots Yeah Enoch was supposedly abducted by aliens.🙄
@ameribeaner
@ameribeaner Жыл бұрын
Yay I’m first LoL 🤪 So just finished the video, great video! Very informative as usual. Can’t accurately describe how excited I get when I’m notified that ReligionforBreakfast has uploaded a new video.
@thepeff
@thepeff Жыл бұрын
Doing it ironically still makes you a follower
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
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@bensplace2075
@bensplace2075 Жыл бұрын
2:38 the Gilead is the Hebrew name for a region across the Jordan river, extending from the Sea of ​​Galilee in the north and the Dead Sea in the south. Nowadays in Jordan territory. the two tribes who shared that area in that verse were Gad and half of Menashe.
@ramkanjeenterprises5416
@ramkanjeenterprises5416 Жыл бұрын
It's a good documentary and educative.
@toyoudosen6958
@toyoudosen6958 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Dr Henry. I was wondering if you still had plans to release videos about more African Diaspora Religions.
@matthewbateman6487
@matthewbateman6487 Жыл бұрын
I know this subject is enough for an entire semester/course -- but I'm surprised with your mention of last Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie, that you wouldn't also include references to Rastafari. Great video -- and very informative.
@LaNina_DJ
@LaNina_DJ Жыл бұрын
Yes we need to hear about the Rasta 12 tribes!
@matthewbateman6487
@matthewbateman6487 Жыл бұрын
@@LaNina_DJ Well, I think '12 Tribes' is a 'denomination' (if I may) of Rastafari... But, generally speaking, Rastas see themselves as spiritual successors to Israel, if not also literally.
@alphavegas1
@alphavegas1 Жыл бұрын
If you know this subject that well. I have a question. The Lemba tribe in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Are they decendants of the Hebrew priests?
@matthewbateman6487
@matthewbateman6487 Жыл бұрын
@@alphavegas1 I do not know the answer to that one, sorry :/
@johnr6087
@johnr6087 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbateman6487 Man I feel like a lot of Rastafarianism is much closer to an ethical, Theistic religion than the Orthodox Christianity I was raised in. I really respect their commitment and I consider myself really lucky I got to see Sister Carol live at a Reggae concert.
@elkiness
@elkiness Жыл бұрын
Again, so well done! As I came to Israel from North America, by way of my grandparents in Ukraine--and probably (?) --from the Babylonian exile--I didn't realize about all these claims of ''being Israelite''! Of course, I come into contact with Ethiopians, so often lovely, gentle people. I wish more of their ways would have influenced the contemporary Israelis!-- but it's been mostly the other way around. All in all, the most sensible approach to this question I have heard. I am curious to know more about what the DNA shows.🤔☺
@jackaction7077
@jackaction7077 Жыл бұрын
We are scattered all over the earth like God promised..Most of us have been awakened and been visited (by extraterrestrial means)since September 2017 and April 2020..We are different races and colors and the true targeted individuals.
@KevinReeve
@KevinReeve 12 күн бұрын
There is a promise from God to gather scattered Israel in.
@riley02192012
@riley02192012 Жыл бұрын
This has always been one of my favorite topics regarding the Hebrew Bible. I find it so interesting.
@leepaul6630
@leepaul6630 Жыл бұрын
(Around 5;50) - even at this early age, we see the removal of artisans, craftsman, and people of knowledge. They are separated from the general populace, used to the advantage of the few, and the general populace is cultivated like an ever replenishing band of drones to serve the large machine of the state. It hasn’t changed at all, has it?
@johnmcwade1
@johnmcwade1 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thank you 🙏
@elivingt
@elivingt Жыл бұрын
Juda and Simeon are a southern tribe and across the Bible you can see the tribes were separated by themselves and on the north south regions. Rechabam for instance is accepted as a king in Judea but then goes to get the Israelites approvals. As far as the lost tribes, I agree, in the books of kings and chronicles you see that King Hizkiyahu and later Yoshayau go to the north trying to demolish idol worship and call to return to the temple.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Жыл бұрын
The 10 lost tribes were never lost at all they were just diaspora. When you consider the geographic spread contained in Acts 2. Not mysticism at all.
@danandkiko
@danandkiko Жыл бұрын
This is always a fascinating topic. I live in Japan and have seen a documentary about the supposed lost tribe that "became the Japanese people." From the little that I recall, there are claimed some amazing coincidental similarities between languages, religions, and culture. Any of the countries claiming this would make a fascinating study/video. I always enjoy your videos and sometimes wish that I had followed that kind of path.
@rowdy9379
@rowdy9379 Жыл бұрын
The American Indians DNA is linked to 3 groups in Japan
@pharaongaming8617
@pharaongaming8617 Жыл бұрын
I guess it could be possible that some Jewish people influenced the Japanese culture a bit even tho Japanese aren't descended from them
@det.bullock4461
@det.bullock4461 Жыл бұрын
@@pharaongaming8617 It's more, I think, that Japanese as a language comes from a distinct group than the portion of Asia surrounding it and nobody can exactly tell to which language group it belongs to so it's easy to find a few analogies with a language of your choice if you really want. That it still tends to incorporate an inordinate number of loan words doesn't help.
@efraim6960
@efraim6960 Жыл бұрын
Pretty weird documentary given that present-day Japanese are mainly descendants of Yayoi and Jomon peoples and are genetically not related to middle easterns.
@sd-ch2cq
@sd-ch2cq Жыл бұрын
@@efraim6960 Most '10 tribes theories' are not doing very well when put to a DNA-test
@veritas2145
@veritas2145 Ай бұрын
He says the Bible barely touches the subject of the lost tribes. Lol One of the biggest themes of the Old Testament is the regathering and reconciliation of those lost tribes back to Christ.
@toddmadden8099
@toddmadden8099 2 күн бұрын
Thank you ‼️
@mwola
@mwola Жыл бұрын
The Gospels clearly shows the city These tribes are living today. WORSHIP CHRIST our FATHER of knowledge.
@sidvicious647
@sidvicious647 Жыл бұрын
The Tribe's where never lost but scattered.
@minusstage3
@minusstage3 Жыл бұрын
Amen Sid! 25
@robinellis6237
@robinellis6237 Жыл бұрын
God says they - are lost to themselves . and not to him God is spirit those who rship Him who riphinspirit und truth
@sidvicious647
@sidvicious647 Жыл бұрын
@@minusstage3 🤝🤝🤝
@sidvicious647
@sidvicious647 Жыл бұрын
@@robinellis6237 Yes However there's a special place for Physical Yisrael and that's the Word of THE MOST HIGH YAH. Isaiah chapter 11.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Жыл бұрын
*_The Answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind......._*
@justinmatthews4961
@justinmatthews4961 Жыл бұрын
Great video; however I just wanted to say that you mentioned Gilead as being a tribe forgotten or something but Gilead actually just refers to Reuben Gad and East Manasseh which settled on the east side of the Jordan River. It’s just a name for that land area
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 10 күн бұрын
When I read that story, I understood, the poor were left behind. I thought the 12 tribes was just a way to show their descent from the 12 boys. I never read it literally.
@cpjv1987
@cpjv1987 9 ай бұрын
This is part of the 2300 days prophecy in Daniel 8:14. The 3.5 years began at his baptism by John the Baptist in the Jordan river, 3.5 years later He was crucified. At the stoning of Stevan the faith for the Jews was sealed and the gospel moved forward to the gentiles.. I understand this subject in its full clarity and I can go into great detail for anyone wanting to learn more about this.
@amram1305
@amram1305 9 ай бұрын
You have no idea whats going on...
@cpjv1987
@cpjv1987 8 ай бұрын
@@amram1305 scoffer.
@amram1305
@amram1305 8 ай бұрын
@@cpjv1987 no offense, but are you saying when Stephen was stoned to death under Saul's eyes that the gospel moved to heathen gentiles who arent Israelites?
@Urbangardener1
@Urbangardener1 Жыл бұрын
Very eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. I have been studying this stuff for a while and you are closing some of the gaps for me. It was as I suspected. Eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. Well done and thank you for all of your hard work. It clearly shows in the material that you present.
@realmless4193
@realmless4193 Жыл бұрын
The twelve tribes is a simplified and symbolic representation of the tribal system of Israel, and that is very clear from the text itself. Firstly, the twelve tribes exclude Levi, an extremely important tribe, because they had no secular power. Various lists of the twelve tribes either exclude or include the tribe of Dan, rename Ephraim Joseph, or as in the song of Deborah, combine some of the Transjordan tribes into Gilead. There are also sub-tribes that are discussed such as east and west Manasseh, and then some tribes like Dan live in the wrong place instead of their tribal allotment, and so on. In reality, the tribal system of ancient Israel was more like 15 tribes or more, but they were simplified into the 12 tribes to represent the tribes of Jacob, however these exceptions to the idealized tribal system are almost always recorded in the Bible itself which is where we get most of our ideas of the difference between the idealized and real situation
@sobertillnoon
@sobertillnoon Жыл бұрын
Almost like multiple writers were having trouble keeping everything straight over the centuries that these things were written and modified.
@RogerValor
@RogerValor Жыл бұрын
@@sobertillnoon to be honest I think in ancient times they might have understood this better than we do now, and thought nothing of it.
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
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@jakeaurod
@jakeaurod Жыл бұрын
Is the landless tribalization of Levi a bug or a feature? Was it an oversight and dismissal, or a reflection of a real historical tribal circumstance, or the insulation of a caste, or a development of the concept of separation of religion and state (it may fit by delanding the religious caste, but it may not fit since the Levites also filled basic civil service roles in governance, IIRC).
@realmless4193
@realmless4193 Жыл бұрын
@@sobertillnoon no you have no clue what is going on. It is easy to understand how the tribal system works, and your theory would require all of the biblical authors to be idiots since your saying they can't keep straight a fairly sime system. You also aren't asking the interesting question: why did they feel a need to make a 12 tribes system in the first place? The system set forth in the Bible is as follows: There are 12 sons of Jacob. (12 tribes) One of these sons (Joseph) was then given 2 tribes by his father (Ephraim & Manasseh) (13 tribes?) But Levi was not given a territorial allotment and was distinguished from the other tribes. (12 normal tribes) But then one of these tribes got land on both sides of the Jordan (Manasseh) and the portions on either side of the Jordan are called half tribes (still 12 tribes) But Dan conquered land outside of it's allotment, in Naphtali, but this is still the same tribe as Dan in the south. Further, the region east of the Jordan is distinct from the rest of Israel. It is called Gilead, and it is made up of half of Mannaseh and Gad. Also Reuben. It describes a group of tribes that cover an area, not a single tribe. So Gilead is not a tribe. Kinda. It is another name for Gad kinda, like Bashan is another name for east Mannaseh. The Bible includes ways to divide Israel other than the 12 tribes to help describe the de-facto structure of Israel but it still uses the 12 tribes o refer to the ethnic origins of the people of Israel and it places the priestly class in it's own tribe seperate from the larger 12 tribes system. This is the kind of roughness you expect from actual history and not something an author would do if they were trying to make it up.
@toledoh5170
@toledoh5170 4 ай бұрын
I should note that the Book of Mormon specifically does not provide an account of the 10 "Lost" Tribes. (As you note, the only tribal identifier we're given is "Manasseh," and they're not among the people who were supposedly deported to Assyria.) However, the Book of Mormon does contain promises about the "gathering of Israel," leading Mormons (leaders and laypeople) throughout history to hypothesize about the present-day locations of the "lost" tribes. These have ranged from British Israelism to trying to find Israelite influence in cultures around the world to, on the fringes, believing that the tribes have a civilization around the North Pole - or in the center of a hollow earth!
@garanceadrosehn9691
@garanceadrosehn9691 Жыл бұрын
On one minor point: Numbers 32 and Deuteronomy 3 talk about how the tribes of Gad and Reuben decide to settle in the lands of Jazer and Gilead. Over in Judges 5 there is the mention of Gilead as if it's the proper name of a tribe, but no mention of either Gad or Reuben. Also, 2 Kings 10:32+33 makes the comment _"Hazael conquered them in all the territory of Israel from the Jordan eastward: all the land of Gilead-Gad, Reuben, and Manasseh-from Aroer, which is by the River Arnon, including Gilead and Bashan"_ (although those verses are phrased a bit differently in other translations...). Isn't it plausible that at the time the book of Judges was written, the term "Gilead" was used to mean _"those two tribes of Israel who settled on the wrong side of the Jordan"?_ A single term to cover both tribes, since those two tribes had already chosen to separate themselves from the rest of Israel? A quick scan indicates that the book of Judges has zero references to Gad, and only two to Reuben, but both names show up in other books in the Hebrew bible.
@bbl5499
@bbl5499 Жыл бұрын
Isaiah 11-11: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. That day is yet to come.
@shoeshinegirl101
@shoeshinegirl101 8 ай бұрын
Matt. 15:24 where the Messiah himself says, "I came ONLY for the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Also, Matt. 10:5-6 too! That's because Elohim "divorced" them and "scattered them to the four corners of the world." He did not do that with the tribe of Judah and the tribe of Benjamin (the "Jews") in the southern kingdom. In a Ezekiel chapter 37 it talks about the two sticks, the house of Israel and the house of Judah, becoming one stick again.
@williambeckett6336
@williambeckett6336 9 ай бұрын
They were never "lost". If they existed at all in any type of form the bible describes they were simply asimilated into the Assyrian empire through deportation and resettlement. Moving peoples was a common conquerer technique for thousands of years.
@adamnoturfuknbusiness2367
@adamnoturfuknbusiness2367 Жыл бұрын
Lots of ancient European literature claims that their people are descended from exiles of Troy the same way the Aeneid claimed that for the Romans, or atleast ancient french and british literature I know of does. This is kinna like claiming to be a different tribe of romans, but it's not common at all today I think. But you also gotta consider "tsars" were still around until a century ago.
@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul
@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul Жыл бұрын
It's sad that so many people have lost their cultural identity that anything that feels like it makes them feel special must be where they came from. I have such a huge mixed ancestry that it's not even funny, took me years but I'm finally happy just being Me! I hope anyone reading this finds comfort and solace in Just Being Satisfied with the fact they are alive and a Part of The Whole aptly named The Human Race! I loved your explanation here Sir very eye opening.
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people saw it as necessary to place themselves in Abrahamic history after conversion to Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. The Romans did something similar by placing themselves in Homeric history by identifying themselves with the Trojan prince Aeneas. It's all about trying to fit yourself in someone else's story.
@arnulfo267
@arnulfo267 Жыл бұрын
I notice that this obsession with ancestry is mostly a North American thing. Probably because most of us who live here aren't native to the land. We either come from Europe or Africa or Asia or somewhere else.
@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul
@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul Жыл бұрын
@@arnulfo267 I'm a 4th generation American my ancestors came from Ireland and Germany and I have two different native American blood lines. So I'm a bit of a mixed mutt
@mugikuyu9403
@mugikuyu9403 Жыл бұрын
It is very tragic. I’m the case of my people (The Agikuyu) we had a monotheistic religion that was a completely separate development from Abrahamic monotheism. Our ancestors had independently come to the conclusion that there was only One God and for hundreds of years had their own stories concerning God and their own manner of worship. Today, unfortunately, many of us worship and understand God through the historical and cultural lense of someone else. it is very tragic!
@Gentile212
@Gentile212 Жыл бұрын
Heea a great video on the 12 lost tribes.. Enjoy 😁💙 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs
@jamesdelrogers542
@jamesdelrogers542 Жыл бұрын
I know what the lost 13th tribe is , It's commander amadella And the battle start galactica With its rag tag Fugitive fleet .........
@Stoicbeast33
@Stoicbeast33 Жыл бұрын
If we knew that, they wouldn't be lost.
@user-bk7gv7kz5r
@user-bk7gv7kz5r Ай бұрын
Britain, France, Switzerland, Danmark, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Bohemia Moravia, Saxony, etc etc.
@theanonymousmrgrape5911
@theanonymousmrgrape5911 Жыл бұрын
1:40 “A phenomenon totally unparalleled in any other identity.” I disagree. In fact, I’d argue it’s a very common story across different identities to argue the origins of one’s culture lie in some prestigious foreign land, especially drawing from esteemed works. Perhaps the most obvious example lies with the endless list of people groups who claimed descent at one time or another from characters in the Iliad, or the Trojans as a people group. In this category, are of course the Romans, but also many later peoples, such as the Franks/French, Germans, Welsh, and even the Icelanders.
@zimriel
@zimriel Жыл бұрын
In the New World, the Mexica had the Atzlan myth.
@madhavdeval
@madhavdeval Жыл бұрын
Cambodia is so called because they claimed descent from the Vedic Kamboja tribe, if I recall correctly- you make a good point
@chendaforest
@chendaforest Жыл бұрын
Yup, everyone likes to think they are special or unique, a special people chosen by god or something. Silly really.
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and it's interesting that "birth" or "descent" legends can shift. When the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes migrated to Britain, the ruling families traced their descent back to Woden, their chief god. But when they converted to Christianity, the descent was pushed further back, as Woden's descent was claimed to be from a son of Noah who was born in the ark! After the Norman Conquest, when the Continental influence grew, and classical legends became known at least among the ruling class, an alternate descent from the Trojans and the ancient Romans was claimed. Aeneas (son of Venus), who escaped the fall of Troy and founded Rome (supposedly) now became the founding father of Britain, through his descendant Brutus or Brut. This all became mixed up with the legend of King Arthur, who became the symbol of the ultimately failed attempt to defend the Roman legacy in Britain against the barbarian invaders. Very confusing, particularly when one considers that the people embracing this view of history were the English, descended from those barbarians, intermarrying with the remaining British! What can be better than a divine ancestor? Two or more!
@chendaforest
@chendaforest Жыл бұрын
@@elainechubb971 right, a lot of these mythologies tell us more about contemporary ideas than real history. During the nineteenth century, English identity was strongly linked to a wider Germanic or 'Teutonic' identity. This fell out of favour during the great war for obvious reasons. So the legendary King Arthur was rebranded as an English Celtic warrior who heroically fought back against the evil Hun, just like in the trenches.
@MythVisionPodcast
@MythVisionPodcast Жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing video Dr. Henry! The Lost tribes of Israel topic is fascinating. It's impressive to see how the mythology continues to evolve over time.
@Tzimiskes3506
@Tzimiskes3506 Жыл бұрын
The clown is here...
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
@@Tzimiskes3506 Hi, clown.
@Tzimiskes3506
@Tzimiskes3506 Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowkrampus your projecting rainbow. Calm down. Just start thinking a bit more and you might just fall from the peak of the dunning-kruger curve, rainbow.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
@@Tzimiskes3506 Ha! Now do the thing with the tiny car.
@tomrhodes1629
@tomrhodes1629 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. And here is why the tribes of Israel were rendered ambiguous. For thus sayeth The LORD: "All who seek Truth are Israel. Spirit is life, the flesh counts for nothing." Elijah has returned, as prophesied.
@tnayenga77
@tnayenga77 17 күн бұрын
The 10 tribes of Israel married into the Assyrian culture as Samaritans while many moved to the Southern part in Judah which was destroyed in 70AD…
@thefrontporch8594
@thefrontporch8594 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Opinions are like ....well, you know, everyone has one LOL! Something I read several years ago about the founding of modern day Israel, was a great majority wanted the country to be named Judah, but the leaders decided that would not be accepted well by the world, so they decided on "Israel", which I thought that was strange since most of Israel had disappeared millenia ago.
@BenjaminKeller
@BenjaminKeller Жыл бұрын
I agree that there is a legend component. But from a religious point of view the tribes were actually lost because they didn't continue in the Israelite religious tradition. They were not physically lost, but lost from their religious tradition. They were not deported, but their identity (art, knowledge and power) was deported.
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@olafharoldsonnii4713
@olafharoldsonnii4713 Жыл бұрын
They discontinued from their heritage
@thebusybrownangel5829
@thebusybrownangel5829 Жыл бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@madderhat5852
@madderhat5852 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. The desire to be part of a greater 'other'/truth is very seductive. The huge growth in genealogy DNA sites and people finding their roots as many have lost track of their family lines.
@rhysjenkins7884
@rhysjenkins7884 Жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting video but the dates are confusing. Which calendar are you refering to?
@BESTIACRUEL8
@BESTIACRUEL8 5 ай бұрын
Thank you clarifying Dubs .
@yosh3058
@yosh3058 Жыл бұрын
The real 10 lost tribes were the friends we met along the way.
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the gospels was at the last supper when Peter said: "So thas it? What? This some kinda...New Testament?" and then everyone clapped as the credits rolled. Almost as good as the time Moses said "It's Mosin' time" and then he Mosed' all over Pharaoh and his army. Truly one of the stories of all time.
@secondexodus9105
@secondexodus9105 Жыл бұрын
Israelites came from Africa
@davidripplinger8904
@davidripplinger8904 Жыл бұрын
This comment wins the internet today.
@secondexodus9105
@secondexodus9105 Жыл бұрын
@@davidripplinger8904 if only those 10 friends along the way were not antisemitic, I would have gladly accepted that fantasy
@knows_too_much
@knows_too_much Жыл бұрын
Great video. The only thing missing here is the mention of Genetic Studies, which also shed some light on the topic.
@cernowaingreenman
@cernowaingreenman Жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember hearing that, possibly on 60 Minutes?, that some male Ethiopian Jews had the specific Y chromosome that identified them as Jewish. I'm not sure how accurate that is now given the research in genetics since then.
@lobsterbalelegesse9919
@lobsterbalelegesse9919 Жыл бұрын
Genes don't necessarily prove much because different people can have similar genes and not be related.
@stellamarina4123
@stellamarina4123 Жыл бұрын
DNA of Samaritans says they are Jewish
@secondexodus9105
@secondexodus9105 Жыл бұрын
The 12 tribes of Israel went to Africa 🌍
@lobsterbalelegesse9919
@lobsterbalelegesse9919 Жыл бұрын
@@stellamarina4123 There is no "Jewish " DNA BTW dna is science not Biblical. They r tricking people they really mean Semitic DNA they do the word play BS. Why is Samaritan religion so different than the Torah? Because they are not.
@gordonpkm7560
@gordonpkm7560 Жыл бұрын
Monica the Red haired, Blue Eyed, Maori, of the Ngati Hotu Tribe N.Z. Her DNA, took her back to Israel, A journey that had been handed down through 74plus generations ... If my memory serves me right, they came across the Berring Straite .. They must've lingered somewhere in Asia ...
@andrefavreau9818
@andrefavreau9818 Жыл бұрын
Galaad is a region on northern east side of the Jordan It’s the the half tribe of Manasseh and/or maybe Gad. Malik, in Judges 5, but the not mentioned in the video, is the other half tribe on the western side. He’s one of Manasseh’s son. Gad is not really mentioned per say either.
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