Renault Scenic (EV) - Probably The Best Family EV There Is!

[@connclissmann6514]

I'm loving that P button, personalising your dripping for alarms and warnings. Having driven a Kia EV9 it is a great car but my oh my doors it ding at you! 1km over the speed limit, look to the side door a second, dare go near a white line and you will be pestered by multi-time bells. Many can be turned off *deep* in the Settings menus, but it is a true ... annoyance. All cars should get a P button! Thanks for the review.

[@mdshovel]

I've had the Scenic Iconic for 2 months, my second EV. ... Brilliant car, totally brilliant - well thought out

[@KennethPaul]

Heat pump as standard and 22kw AC as standard, which is a lifesaver when your in the north of Scotland or more remote areas with street chargers which are also really common in Europe. Just some more reasons to consider the scenic for the price it's great value, drives wonderfully, very quiet and android automotive with Google maps is excellent. Renault are smashing it just now in design, features and price

[@elliottquinton2084]

I’m getting this, upgrading from Renault Zoe did like Megane but going for scenic

[@davidilm3752]

Love the videos. Having followed your channel for quite a while I just bought a VW Id3 which I am very happy with. I used Smart Home Charge for my Ohme Home Pro wall charger on the back of your recommendation and they were fantastic. Cheers mate 👍

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Here in Austria these are the prices without incentices which i do not get anymore. Renault Scenic E-Tech 53.920,-- Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD 500+ HP best software, best safety, White/White 51.770,-- Tesla Model Y Long Range RWD White/White 48.770,--

[@i2Them2]

Thats the most expensive Scenic with way more options then a model Y and 100km more wltp. And that Y without incentives starts at €54.200... Scenic in Techno trim with the big battery has the same price as the Y with LR RWD. Those are close. Then it's about taste.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@i2Them2 I have specced a equivalent Scenic to the Model Y Long Range RWD. Maybe in your country they are much cheaper? IDK. I do not count any incentives, i do not get any in my country.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Scenic must be at least Alpine trim to be equivalent to the Model Y. 170 HP are a joke, my Enyaq 60 ist stronger.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

This rooster drawn at the base of the windshield means that this car is made in France. And of course the rooster in a symbol of France : >.

[@KennethPaul]

It's also in the headlight plastic mouldings 😁 well don't Renault for keeping it made in France 👌

[@tubularap]

You two just chatting is pleasant to 'eaves-drop' on. Be it in a car, a bus, on a train, a tandem-bicycle or even during a walk.

[@wakeywarrior]

This gets more real world miles than Y long range- and is about £200 a month less to lease and half the insurance price. No point comparing it to a RWD Y which gets about 80 miles less real world. The tech on this is actually better than Tesla (6 year Tesla owner) with not only Google producing the software but you can also run CarPlay Wireless on its own tab. 435 a month to lease with 3 payments down, 10,000 miles a year- a winner. Battery is 92 kWh, 87 kWh useable.

[@danielstefanovic2604]

There is a model y lr rwd which gets simillar range with alitle smaller battery because its more efficient.

[@wakeywarrior]

@@danielstefanovic2604 They do not sell that one in the UK unfortunately.

[@danielstefanovic2604]

@@wakeywarrior its does now ,just anounced to replace the old rwd version for 2000£ more

[@ISuperTed]

Had a look at one of these at a dealer last week as was right next door to them shopping. Their demo was in the grey/silver colour which I thought made it look very dull from the outside - think these need a bright colour. Nice interior and roomy but the thing that put me off was the boot - odd shaped to me and too narrow with a huge load lip. As we have 2 big dogs would much prefer a wide flat space, more like an estate. Nice car and may test drive one when I change company cars next spring, but a Model Y looks more practical for the family.

[@mikadavies660]

You guys are correct, and i had almost forgotten it as sn option. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is actually more practical. 👍

[@Jaw0lf]

Another interesting family EV with some nice tricks up it’s roof! Great analogy of it being a Christmas dinner as it seems to tick a lot of boxes. However. Efficiency could be better.

[@tigerv88]

Must admit I had this on a list with the Ioniq5 and Model Y. Model Y won for me and was a bit more spacious in the back for what we need. However, some massive leaps forward for Renault and nice touches that show they are in tune with what people want from a car.

[@Lewis_Standing]

Yeah I'd chose both of those over this but perhaps it's worth considering

[@danielstefanovic2604]

yeah also model y awd which this is fwd only.

[@chrishart8548]

​@danielstefanovic2604 even RWD is better when it comes to electric. I have the enyaq. The model Y has less ground clearance and is taller the the enyaq it's got a lot of space inside.

[@anton_grahn]

Good choise I think, Model Y is a very well rounded package with great space efficiency👌

[@robinrdale8318]

Like the looks of the Renaults , waiting to see how the 5 ends up size wise etc but may end up getting a Megan as by the time the 5 comes out I think be able to pick up a 24 Megan for about 15k the way the prices are going .

[@dannymakie3065]

It's so similar to my Nissan Ariya. You can see the alliance between the 2 companies coming into play. The Ariya seems more premium but I love the Scenic. Nissan is missing autolock after 7mph and does not have a mute button on the steering wheel 😢

[@richardcarter2272]

I’d swear I’m looking down the Ryburn Valley in Calderdale looking at these backdrops!… I’m up near Barkisland/Ripponden

[@georgedaville4662]

I love listening to you two bantering away by in Gods Country Language. Good honest comment based on a lot of knowledge of the EV. sectors. This car is a serious contender, but could do with been cheaper like all EV’s ! 👍😎

[@dannycph]

Love the design.

[@gap9992]

From April 2025 in the UK EVs costing more than £40k list will cost £390 / month extra in road tax for 6 years. There will be a lot of £39,999 list EVs

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@gap9992 Per year, not per month. I imagine a lot will magically come under the £40k barrier.

[@stuartjohnston1086]

Get the larger battery version before April next year. The price difference between the 2 battery options will next year ( From April 2025 ), push the larger version into the "luxury" car tax bracket. Starts to look less of a good deal at that point, when you have to pay an extra £410 per year.

[@jamesdaw131]

Your price comparisons. I got an id7 tourer for less than these cost on a lease deal.

[@justjosh11]

Having to go company car and on my list is this long range, Kia ev3 long range, Sportage PHEV, polestar 2 long range and Tesla model 3 standard range. Would love to see you review the EV3 as I think the Scenic and EV3 are currently leading the field for me! Model 3 pretty much ruled out due to range. Disappointed with lack of heat pump in EV3 on all but top spec, whilst I think the Scenic has it as standard?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@justjosh11 Tesla has the network which means a bit less range is irrelevant.

[@OptLab]

Looks random in dark, looks great in white. It makes the lines, the lights contrast.

[@graham5649]

Amazing value 😊

[@NSE_Foden]

Interesting and enjoyable video as normal, however, is it possible to boost your audio as even with the volume on maximum on my phone, and the phone stood in a container to boost it more, I can barely hear a word you are saying if there is any background noise at my end.

[@jcfallows]

I have a similar sized remote for the Zoe. Since i have seen the exploding pagers i'm sort of going off keeping battery powered items in a pocket near my goolies 😮

[@benbocc1549]

Extra USB chargers in the back for the kids vape chargers 😂

[@AndrewEbling]

Enyaq is RWD so no torque steer and better traction/less likely to light up the driving wheels.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Torque Steer? Those cars were made in 2024 not in 1994.

[@AndrewEbling]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 plenty of torque steer on both the Renault Zoe and MG ZS EV.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@AndrewEbling Must be old constructions. Have not had such a thing in my VW Caddy. Ok the first Fiat 500E from California had the same problem.

[@AndrewEbling]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 does a caddy even have enough power to have torque steer? 😂

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@AndrewEbling IDK, never experienced it. But the much weaker Fiat 500E V 1 had it. The new Fiat 500E does not.

[@MrGonzonator]

Where's the Grand Scenic EV?!!

[@dcvariousvids8082]

For me, this looks better than the Megane and probably the Niro and the Cupra. And hasn’t got that Krypton second head look of the Ioniq 5. But just the ability to easily turn off all the annoying bits at will, without trawling through multiple menu, that usually a winner in itself.

[@Brian-om2hh]

I've noticed several recent car designs with "square" rear lower corners, and I don't particularly like it as a design feature...

[@FéargalO]

Megane looks much better but both are not very efficient but if you need a bigger boot and want to feel less cramped in the back then i guess the Scenic is for you.

[@rbdogwood]

The only obvious gripe I might consider is the fixed central rear headrest. It might be that there's a good reason for it and I don't know if the camera angle helped or hindered, but I prefer less obstruction to the rear view. I haven't trained my brain to be able to use the digital image if it's in the same place as the traditional mirror. My 'auto focus' gets in the way. I guess I'll have to evolve.

[@barryhaeger4284]

The Megan is a little worse, I think, with a lower roofline, and it put me off getting one. However, you can remove the middle headrest, and you do have the rear camera and screen option instead of the mirror.

[@rbdogwood]

@@barryhaeger4284 True, I have removed my MG4 middle headrest and it has improved things. The mirror is quite wide and obstructs the forward view, but largely wasted because of the other two headrests. I suppose the logical but awkward answer is to remove all three when not carrying passengers. I did try the camera and electronic 'mirror' but found my reflexes and 'auto-focus' challenged.

[@danielstefanovic2604]

Here in Norway the big battery version with some options is same price as model y lr with awd so its a tough sell.

[@vincehutt7616]

The underpinnings of the car is the same as the Nissan Ariya had one as a courtesy car when you look under the bonnet its the same as My Ariya

[@AdamAugustPhoto]

Still vastly prefer my Enyaq 80, but I have to admit there are some features in this that make me turn my head a little. Drivers display, quick deactivation of 'assistance' measures & that opaque pan roof are good touches & the displays look superior, but smaller boot, seemingly lower efficiency and the general look of the interior are a miss for me.

[@AndrewEbling]

Agreed - for us with 2x teenagers and a Labrador in tow, the Enyaq boot is a no brainier.

[@chrishart8548]

I've moved the steering assist onto the shortcuts bar so I can deactivate it easily on the enyaq.

[@AndrewEbling]

@@chrishart8548 I've got air recirculate, auto-hold and CarPlay, but if I could have a 4th button I'd use it for lane departure assist.

[@chrishart8548]

@@AndrewEbling I don't like the way if I'm on the phone I lose a shortcut icon

[@dannycph]

Hi EVM. Hope you make a review of the new Ford Explorer EV

[@davidoddy4668]

Missed the driver electric seat driver settings and it's lumbar massage options with intensity

[@peteglass3496]

With the panoramic roof, what's the sun's heat like on your head? A question for those of us without any thatch on top. Will the Megane get this software any time??

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@peteglass3496 Sun?? What’s that?

[@peteglass3496]

@@ElectricVehicleMan you gotta laugh. It does happen once a week down in the softie south!

[@nxsynjs]

Do you count Tesla Y as a family car? Even standard range is same sort of price range and RL range?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@nxsynjs Yes.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

The Y is actually 5K cheaper here in Austria. Bummer.

[@DBEUKGB]

​@ElectricVehicleMan I feel like the Renault Scenic is the best option if you can't get a Tesla Model Y, but if you can get a Model Y then well the Y wins for me. But the Scenic is a great car.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@DBEUKGB The scenic may be a great hardware. Without the software that accompanies the cars i would not buy them, no matter how beautiful or how exact their panel gaps are. The Y is the only one with a HEPA filter. I demand that the Diesels all stop burning and produce stinking fumes. Until that happens i will stick to the Y.

[@janfriend4390]

Dashcams. Why do manufacturers not install a USB socket by the rear view mirror cluster to power these, rather than having cable dangling down?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@janfriend4390 Not meant for that, USB sockets power down when the cars parked. Need a permanent feed.

[@janfriend4390]

@@ElectricVehicleMan- do why not make that socket a permanent feed? Simples!

[@MCSMIK]

So you compared it to a ID3 but not a Model Y. Seriously? It’s probably been designed to compete with the Y. Same class. Them rear seats look awesome. But the boot is smaller than the Y. Very interesting car. Looks classy in person for sure

[@keithdenton8386]

That's why you both drive Teslas. I drove 2500 kms through and around France in my Tesla and it cost me less to charge by half than An other EV. If I used An other EV it would have cost more than a petrol or a diesel. The efficiency and the charging costs were so much cheaper. around 25 p per kw and 3.9 mi/kWh. AN other EVs were paying 50p per kwh. Tesla superchargers have more than doubled in France in only a year. They are everywhere. Even on autoroute service areas now.

[@gohumberto]

Kia's 7 year warranty wins it every time for me, and it's about time every manufacturer did the same for their EVs.

[@Flickerbrain]

Nice car but does it have a frunk? Love the dry stone wall in the background by the way!

[@austin2planks]

@@Flickerbrain no frunk. Under the bonnet full of motor, heat pump, electronics etc.

[@nealy2815]

Peugeot announced a new bigger warranty a bit ago - has that happened?

[@markwilliamson9027]

I wonder how long before someone is charged in a fatal crash if they have turned off all the safety features

[@chrishart8548]

What safety features can you actually turn off. The abs can't be turned off, the Esp usually comes back on anyway, lane assistance is an awful thing.

[@austin2planks]

No frunk is a pain. And no V2L. But otherwise it is brilliant.

[@Woodmaster1956]

V2L is coming apparently albeit via a dedicated charger

[@austin2planks]

@@Woodmaster1956 V2G then? Not something that can be used out and about.

[@Woodmaster1956]

@@austin2planksTrue, but in over 50 years of motoring I have never needed mains supply away from home. Whereas during the energy price crisis a couple of years ago I would have loved to use my EV as a battery.

[@austin2planks]

@@Woodmaster1956 V2L is great for camping, big days out etc, but it won't have it. EV3 only on top spec.

[@barryhaeger4284]

Unfortunatly, with the list price being too close to the £40k Luxury Car Cliff Edge the more practical larger battery model will be Taxed for 5 years as a Luxury Car

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@barryhaeger4284 I imagine they’ll change that before it starts.

[@jamesdaw131]

Nearly got one of these. The shape of the boot stopped us - tall and deep boot but very narrow. Great car for someone that doesn’t transport golf clubs a lot! Went VW ID7 tourer instead…!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

73K is too much money for the ID.7.

[@jamesdaw131]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 they are £52k at full price in the UK (the bigger battery is slightly more but still sub £60k)

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@jamesdaw131 And the Y LR AWD costs how much? I've just looked it up: 54k.

[@sharonec5419]

How boring but then you play golf so ye boring +boring =extra boring.

[@jamesdaw131]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 they don’t do many good lease deals. They have just done one which i may have gone for but had already ordered the ID7. I am paying £400 a month with no out hing down - so a pretty damn good deal!

[@mikadavies660]

The thing that i did love about the Scenic is that all of the annoying nags can be switched off in a "personal setting".

[@mattpitt]

Looks good but why did they turn an MPV 7 seater into a 5 seat SUV 🙈

[@DBEUKGB]

The Tesla Model Y is the best family car, the Scenic is a close 2nd! For me anyway, but the Model Y is the best selling vehicle so...what does that tell you.😅

[@williamfence566]

If you clipped this at the wrong point the police could be round to check your laptop 🤣. Cheers fellas

[@fragu123]

What did you drink that you commented a Tesla MY would be more comfortable..? 🤔 for sure not!

[@jeffmtitanium1]

Am I missing something but to me it does not seem as practical as you say Andy, bootwise especially😅

[@FéargalO]

The ioniq 5 seems much more practical and a lot faster DC charging.

[@adrianmcgowan2950]

The Esprit Alpine is so much better looking

[@Joinusinfrance]

Why don’t you like driving into a charging spot? I wish I could!

[@FéargalO]

Much prefer the charging port on the front. Makes it a breeze to charge away from home.

[@keithgeorge7338]

KIA EV3?

[@austin2planks]

Agree you missed the EV3. Smaller but I think similar space, specs, range. V2L (top spec) and a frunk. No standard Heat pump tho. It's between these two for me

[@paulsmith8289]

Kia EV5 is out next year and I'm holding out for that over this, even though I like the Scenic.

[@stephengowler5360]

‘Goes all the way down to the bottom’ ?😂

[@FrostyNight-w7c]

Exactly the same as the Mégane in the US version very boring. Outdated

[@80y3r9]

Thanks my Google started to search it you gits

[@80y3r9]

Never happened on a video before

[@80y3r9]

And yeah I did ruddy pay for it

[@stum8374]

The only thing that electric should be is propulsion NOT DOOR HANDLES which is just a gimmick 😡 but maybe before anything else the manufacturers should find out why some of their cars CATCH FIRE !!!!!! I dont won't to become a wicker man 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@stum8374 which cars catch fire?

[@z00h]

@@ElectricVehicleMan obviously none, hence why Renault spent money designing the packaging for this battery so that it in case it goes up in flames it can be easily contained. Nobody knows why, since as you say, NMC batteries never catch fire. Boeing 787 issues also never happened.

[@Ravnsbaek]

The boot length is drawback as a family car.

[@rockinginafreeworld3256]

Hyundai Santa Fe.

[@mikadavies660]

I was looking forward to driving the Scenic EV as it appeared to be the right range at the right price. However, when I borrowed one for a day the wife immediately rejected it.... She correctly said that the distance between the wheel arches in the boot is too narrow! Not at all big enough for the IKEA run! And I believe her to be correct. Also there is no false floor panel in the boot. So with the rear seats folded down, there is a massive step up from the boot to the seats. Not good enough. It if presents itself as the ultimate family car. Then everything needs to be thought of.

[@DBEUKGB]

Tesla Model Y? Starts at £44,990!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@DBEUKGB We mentioned it.

[@harry7384]

poor ADAS :-(

[@DBEUKGB]

@harry7384 what's that? That's how important that is for me! What's ADAS?

[@DBEUKGB]

@harry7384 @harry7384 what's that? That's how important that is for me! What's ADAS? Oh wait, I've just Googled, and just you wait till FSD supervised comes to the UK! 😅🤣

[@DBEUKGB]

​@@ElectricVehicleManis the 3.0 m/kwh on eco mode? Or sport?

[@niptodstan]

I’ll stick with my Skoda Enyaq Sportline 85x.

[@robbenson4598]

But it’s French!

[@AndrewEbling]

@@robbenson4598 aren't they known for their solid electrics? 😜 In all seriousness, a few people made this observation when I bought an early Zoe. In practice, the electrics were fine. The suspension however... Well let's just say we spent more on suspension repairs than electricity during the time we owned it.

[@robbenson4598]

@@AndrewEbling can never forgive them for what they did to Joan of Arc! 😉

[@cnursery]

Why would anybody WANT to buy an EV?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@cnursery Considering the best selling car in Europe is an EV, maybe you should actually try one rather than read Facebook.

[@jaz4280]

Hideous interior. Too many buttons. Screens jammed together. The ariya version looks classier. The European are struggling with their car designs ... Same old......

[@psnchsky]

Why would anyone buy an EV? A massive fire risk, insane depreciation. Public charging issues. When you can bu an iCE vehicle that just works.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@psnchsky Massive fire risk? 😄😄😄

[@wakeywarrior]

Talk about brainwashed!

[@appkazoo5925]

@@wakeywarrior don't worry about @psnchsky being brainwashed - they are missing the vital component

[@austin2planks]

'When you can buy an ICE' that one isn't going to age well! 😂

[@dannymakie3065]

The Oracle has spoken😂

[@grahamthomas6381]

Except that its a Renault and will self destruct the day after the warranty expires.

[@jamesdaw131]

Nearly got one of these. The shape of the boot stopped us - tall and deep boot but very narrow. Great car for someone that doesn’t transport golf clubs a lot! Went VW ID7 tourer instead…!

[@fritslevie4461]

Charging port on the wrong place for me a showstopper.

[@vvvvvv8032]

How do you find the ID7 tourer? I’m thinking to get one (as a company car).

[@jamesdaw131]

@@vvvvvv8032 I love it. Had a 2016 bmw 3 series before this and the vw knocks spots off it. Haven’t done a long journey yet but seems great