response to allegations + accountability

[@KittydogCrystal]

pinned comment to clear up any misinfo / mistakes in the video! - at 4:57 I meant to say "you SHOULDN'T condone the abuse." to condone is to accept and allow something, and i accidentally used the word incorrectly

[@rotundly-xi9wx]

@@Dapperwaffle07 thanks dapperwaffle07 i thought the same fucking thing

[@Dapperwaffle07]

@@rotundly-xi9wx ??? did i say something wrong or am i missing the tone. sorry if i pissed you off

[@LGLP]

@@Dapperwaffle07 I think, they just curse a lot 😅

[@VerbDoesStuff]

You were a child. And you have handled this extremely maturely and genuinely changed. I don’t know what people expect of you, unless they believe you just deserve to rot in prison or die for the way you were manipulated into being when you were 14-18. I don’t take people who have that mindset seriously. I would understand if people don’t trust you, but you have clearly been obsessed with bettering yourself for years, your art’s been about it, and you didn’t omit anything in this video. You haven’t done *anything* as an adult, except maybe included mature themes in your videos, with content warnings, like, that’s it. you don’t deserve to be called a fucking groomer in your 20s because you hornyposted with another minor while you were also a minor. Legally it holds no water and if you’ve changed, morally it should hold no water in the present or future either. You were clearly not an intentionally abusive person using your position of power to take advantage of people, you just thought you were being cool and good by being horny with friends online, and you’ve long since regretted it. You even tried to apologize to everyone who would listen. This would be a reasonable stance for your opponents to take if you had continued to repeat the behavior into your adulthood, well into recent times, but you haven’t, you literally just haven’t, and in fact have cut yourself off from many communities, which was probably a pretty hard thing for you to do. You’ve become a system in trying to deal with all of this for God’s sake. You were a minor who was abused, literally the only difference between you and any other victim is that you have a big youtube channel. That’s it. If people still think it’s worth bringing it up and making legal threats against you and/or calling you a bad person all these years later, then to be consistent they should also believe that any victim of abuse who repeats it at any point during their childhood should also be ashamed and ostracized from society. Frankly that belief is disgusting even if someone does believe it, but clearly no one serious does. This is stupid online drama of people using something you did almost a decade ago while you were a child to try and justify their dislike for you. I have a feeling most people doing that are themselves minors, or super-weirdo adults in questionable online spaces. You responded to this as maturely as I’ve actually ever seen anyone ever respond to something like this. The fact that Pyrocynical got off scot free but you’re still facing backlash for THIS makes me feel kinda sick, ngl. If you’re being honest and you truly have changed, which I believe you have, you’re doing fine, keep it up. If it’s kids calling you a groomer, well, don’t take that seriously because you aren’t a groomer, objectively, and if it’s adults, well, don’t let a bunch of fucking weirdos on the internet tell that you deserve to be in prison because you were horny with another teen while you yourself were a teen being currently groomed by many adults online. It’s insanely fucked up you are being targeted this way, I can’t emphasize that enough. You have grown up, you are trying to move on, you never asked to be a famous animator as a young child, you didn’t know what that could have possibly translated to, obviously those adults should be facing the flak for the whole thing, not you, you are just a victim in this situation, this whole situation is fucked up and those adults who groomed you should have the internet dogpiling on them, not dogpiling on YOU. If you’re a kid reading this comment, whoever you are, a therapist would absolutely take the stance of helping Kittydog. She is so cleary undeniably a victim in all of this, sure, she technically did bad things when she was younger, but that was so clearly not her intent it’s actually unbelievable. She was roped into acting the ways she did by teenage hormones combined with shitty adults telling her to be super sexual who now refuse to take accountability combined with a lot of other stuff working against her, including childhood trauma, and just a need to belong. Kittydog, Crystal, whatever you wanna be called, however it’s spelled, you have matured. I’m autistic, and pretty sheltered, and I subscribed to you in 2018 and I was 19 and when I was pretty damn mentally stupid regarding sexual things, and now after some growing up, I would never feel comfortable subscribing to someone who made stuff like yours at the age you made it at. People are going to make you into a scapegoat because they want to believe there’s one famous person that can get in trouble and it will solve all their problems, but you aren’t the bad guy in this situation, at the very least you haven’t been since you were 19, and even then you were roped into it by even older people who were WAY worse than you, and that’s extremely commendable and speaks to your character given how much you were groomed into NOT moving on like that, into NOT changing. Many adults tried their hardest to turn you into a hypersexual being, but you still saw the writing on the wall and were able to get out, _as a minor._ Don’t let internet people get you down or call you a groomer. Yes, your behavior hurt some people, _while you were a minor._ But you are an adult now, who knows better, and you have changed. You even made an effort to apologize to anyone from the past. Most people like this (Like the groomers who groomed you!!!) just delete their accounts on everything and try to run from their past life, you could have just as easily deleted your youtube account, your discord account, tried to flee from your online life, and start over, but you didn’t do that. You made a video addressing EVERYTHING to your over 600k subs. That is honesty. You’re doing good, okay? You’ve become extremely mature, you’re making the right decisions, just focus on getting that therapist and another support group if you don’t have one already, and move on with your life. Everyone but terminally online weirdos and perhaps some triggered or traumatized people, believe you deserve to. People absolutely have the right to be triggered or traumatized by your past behavior, but not to blame it on you, when you were a minor who didn’t know better, who is trying to change and has been for years, ever since becoming an adult. If they should point their anger anywhere, it should be at your groomers, for corrupting their friend and turning what should’ve been their wholesome friendship into a hellish one; for causing this whole problem in the first place. You just wanted to be a good person, and were convinced being sexual was the way to do that. Godspeed, the human being behind this silly KZbin channel. I hope you find what you’re looking for in life.

[@justanobody8156]

ive been aware of quite a bit of this for a long time. not all of it but i had suspicions for what i didnt know entirely. i still love ya

[@hellotoltecs]

now that im seeing birdie ending up being weird with minors himself im now realizing that him accusing you of grooming when you were 14 AND being groomed yourself was a HUGE misuse of the word on his part. you weren't deliberately trying to hurt him at all and were just a traumatized child. i'm sorry for assuming you groomed him when in reality it wasn't the case.

[@themosaicshow]

“KD GROOMED ME!!! but what i did to that 13 year old when i was 16 noooo that wasn’t grooming… they took advantage of me actually!!” -jack, apparently

[@sylvianimates]

birdie made it clear in his video that she wasn't trying to intentionally hurt him and just because she didn't mean to doesn't mean she didn't hurt him :')) you clearly have no understanding of these situations

[@adish1401]

​@@sylvianimates But Birdie still claimed it was grooming, and it clearly had a damaging effect on KD if you look at some arguments people had about it. I was a KD in a similar situation, and I would be completely fine if the younger party told me to go f myself over having such history, but I would not enjoy them dragging my name into their online shlt when I long am not 14 nor hold any danger to others.

[@GRAFIXLYR]

i should add that Birdie specifically said that he is not trying to cancel kittydog so please do not try to cancel kittydog for this.

[@TrashyPeachy_]

Miss circle pfp spotted 🫵🏿

[@GRAFIXLYR]

@@TrashyPeachy_ MISS CIRCLE PFP GANG‼️‼️

[@Battle_for_Lily_cove]

I very much am anyway lmao

[@come_gatos_]

​@@Battle_for_Lily_cove nobody cares about your opinion

[@GRAFIXLYR]

@@Battle_for_Lily_cove ...

[@KorksBizarreAdventure]

This aged so well- everyone dog piling you esp Birdie when he’s 10x worse and never changed, blaming everyone who was in his life but himself

[@ponikoTV]

Well with the new drama that birdie didn't want to apologize to dragy and not let the kid speak his side of the story it doesn't surprise me that Jack "doesn't remember" that kittydog wanted to apologize to him. I feel like he knew she wanted to apologize but he pretended that she didn't. (I could be wrong idk)

[@KorksBizarreAdventure]

@@ponikoTVyeah Birdie accusing a 14 year old kitty dog of grooming when they were ab the same age is insane work and kitty dog took accountability several times

[@ponikoTV]

@@KorksBizarreAdventure also she never knew she was being weird, so no She's not a gr00mer, she only saw it as jokes.

[@Ziz-The-Fox]

REMEMBER NOT TO ATTACK ANYONE INCLUDED IN THE DRAMA! Attacking people only makes things worse so please take into account both sides of the story before jumping to conclusions. NEVER attack anyone.

[@3MB3Rx134]

This ^

[@toootle]

i absolutely agree with you but i would not consider this drama as this situation is pretty serious

[@Ziz-The-Fox]

@@toootleyeah a lot of situations like this is just called “drama” because it’s easier to say idk how to explain properly

[@DoctorKittuThe2nd]

This and to acknowledge that it’s not anyone’s but the victim’s place to accept their apology

[@Aisha-Nyxn]

Literally this ^^

[@selbrina]

even jack has said that just bc he doesn’t forgive you doesn’t mean that you haven’t gotten better. you were also a child, and i’m glad you’re growing better♥️

[@beattlecub]

this is the best example of the phrase “hurt people hurt people.”

[@donnowme]

nahh dis more like "hurt people take advantaje of people who also are hurt" lmao💀💀

[@kromabone]

did you NOT watch the video 💀

[@GRXC13]

Can these people calm down w the skull emojis in this reply section. It's honestly annoying.

[@mywingsareyours]

I mean most people who abuse have been abused.

[@cawingcrows2072]

Just a reminder, chat, it's not your place to forgive either side. This wasn't your trauma and it's not your apology to accept. You can say you forgive either one all you want, but in the end it is not your choice. Do not harass either person as it will not help the situation. These were both kids who had absolutely abhorrent pasts with trauma. Neither is perfect and neither is spotless in this situation. Let them figure themselves out and get the proper help they need to heal from this. Do not put them on a pedestal.

[@DoctorKittuThe2nd]

THISSSSSSS PREACH BRO🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@swagmanbrickbattlerawesome]

THAS WHAT IM SAYIN BRAH

[@Roomvoid_]

REAAALLLL

[@drewcoded]

chat😭

[@rosysquid]

TRUE!!! Man, I’m so tired of people saying “I forgive you! I don’t forgive you!” on a situation isn’t about you because it can get confusing and annoying at the same time. I prefer to stay in a neutral position than being in one side when situations like this happens. Just hope it doesn’t happen again

[@flexico64]

I miss the times when the word "grooming" made me picture a cat cleaning itself

[@alphabloodpaw3233]

Real😭

[@jasperjazzie]

i imagine pet groomers have to say "i'm a pet hairstylist" now lmao

[@mar420.74]

​@@jasperjazzie they do, when i see pet groomere on shorts they say this instead, i don't know if it's because we genuinely made that word only mean one thing nowadays or what

[@Pawziexoxo]

@@jasperjazziewhen we do planing for the future in school I need to say “I want to be a pet hairstylist “ instead of groomer because it sounds bad

[@syniimon-stix4022]

Kinda funny how when Birdie's video came out, people were willing to excuse his bad behavior in his past because he was a kid being abused, but aren't willing to do that for Kittydog when they were also a kid and being abused. Pressuring someone isn't grooming. Grooming is the act of gaining someone's trust, making them reliant on you and essentially "training" them to hold a certain mindset, opinions or do certain actions with the intention of abusing them. What happened between Birdie and Kittydog was not grooming, but Birdie is still allowed to be traumatized by it. Kittydog was an actual child when all of this happened, they have grown and changed. Birdie has also grown and changed. Neither of them are bad people, they were kids who fell in with the wrong crowd and did bad things as a result. You're allowed to hold them accountable for their bad actions, *both of them*, but you must also acknowledge that they've both changed since then. Tldr: if you believe Birdie has changed and can excuse his bad actions because he was an abused child, you can't backtrack and say that Kittydog is evil because of things that happened as a result of them being an abused child.

[@goobert5485]

💯 Facts

[@puppyloopsy]

Also truth 🗣️

[@delusionaldogz]

grooming can be pressuring, AND it was sexual. COCSA is very valid and a sad experience. there was a giant power difference. kd has also groomed multiple other people. i dont get what you want out of this.

[@syniimon-stix4022]

@@delusionaldogz Pressuring can happen *during* grooming, but pressuring itself is not grooming. Also I never said anything about it not being valid, did you miss the part where I said Birdie is allowed to be traumatized? Sure there was a power imbalance, but a power imbalance also doesn't equal grooming on its own. Also Kittydog was 14, she obviously didn't know the influence she had or what kind of responsibility she had as a popular creator. People specifically denounce minors gaining popularity because it could damage their view of themself, make them addicted to attention and because they're children and don't realize how influential they are and how much power they hold. You don't get what I want out of this? I want people to realize that they're being hypocritical. Like I said before, you're allowed to hold them accountable for their bad actions, but you also have to realize that they're not the same people. Not just Birdie, Kittydog too. Both of them. Hold them to the same standards and not different standards because you like one more than the other.

[@3MB3Rx134]

Yes!! This community has such a double standard when it comes to stuff like this, and I wish people would be able to do this more!!

[@wolfalotle5357]

I can already tell People aren’t going to take this seriously..

[@BloodKandyx]

Fr…

[@youtubeneedstogitgud3512]

Name one time the community hasn't fallen into shambles or taken this stuff seriously.

[@confetticlaws_x3]

with a community full of kids nothing is taken seriously lmao

[@youtubeneedstogitgud3512]

This is a fucking trainwreck sadly. Everyone is talented yet cannot handle certain things without being completely petty or smth

[@IMakePeopleSaltyApparently]

​@@youtubeneedstogitgud3512toxic gossip train

[@MOVED-s]

Idk how to tell y'all this, but 14yr olds are NOT EVEN CLOSE to having a fully developed mind. There is a reason an age of consent exists. Because people under that age, DO NOT have a mind developed enough to fully understand everything. (Comming from a 14 year old) Also, not to mention, this is prominent in schools, when you see people who are always being extreamly loud and obnoxious, getting into petty drama, being extreamly loud, causing chaos, ect.

[@ponikoTV]

Glad someone point this out becuese a lot of kids don't understand what they doing this is wrong, especially if they are being groomed by a adult.

[@themosaicshow]

this. kd literally did not understand the gravity of her influence. groomers deliberately exploit power dynamics. kd wasn’t deliberate about anything. i’m not saying what she did was normal or right but like.. bffr

[@ponikoTV]

@@themosaicshow ofc! Many kids make sex jokes, but that's not ok, thats why kids apologize for their weird behavior and try to be more careful! The problem is not kd or birdie, the problem is that parents let kids watch this kind of stuff.

[@Idontusethischannelnomore]

Jack was absolutely vile for what he did to you and what he tried to implicate you for when you were only 14, esoecially considering now that hes been outed for being weird to kids when he was an adult

[@nukewire78]

agreed hardcore. if someone said this shit abt me and accuse me of such a disgusting thing i would NOT be having it. birdie is a horrific person

[@Bagel_Ice]

dude, you were a kid, kids don't always know whats right and wrong. ESPECIALLY when you grew up in a hostile environmental. Thank you so much for taking accountability

[@hatlessgojira]

frfr i uh had done bad things when i was younger and its awesome she didnt mske excises cuz its really easy to

[@Sadakorka]

LITERALLY god the drama is just like how people on twitter will attack 13/14 yr old kids for this kind of shit but made even worse by the fact that its actually getting dramatized 7 fucking years later

[@lynxesghost9918]

it’s different dear god said something slightly racist as a 14/yo? yeah whatever, you’ve grown and matured ABUSED and TRAUMATIZED somebody as a 14/yo , who is STILL TRAUMATIZED and affected by it? abuse leaves a permanent stain.

[@goobert5485]

@@lynxesghost9918 people can and are allowed to change and make up for their past actions. Doing bad things or hurting people doesn’t automatically condemn you to a life of being an abuser or a bad person. I think we need to remind ourselves that KD was 14-15 when all of this happened. People can change a LOT in their adolescence, especially when they were influenced and manipulated by other abusive people around them. Abuse leaves a stain on the consciousness of those who were affected, but that *doesnt* mean healing and recovery isnt possible or granted for *both* sides of an abusive relationship. You have no stakes in their relationship. You do not know either of these people beyond their online presence, and your thoughts and opinions on how they heal and grow from this, and what actions they take to better themselves as people, is completely irrelevant, because at the end of the day they’re still trying to be good people, despite the past-and I think KD publicly acknowledging her mistakes and abusive behaviors and making an effort to heal from them is worth something.

[@Sadakorka]

also dont forget that this entire situation isnt really anyone elses (people other than the victims) business concerning how the victims are supposed to feel about this and react!!!!!! youre your own person not someone elses

[@PixieBladeArt]

I think calling out and trying to cancel a 21 year old for things they did when they were 14 is stupid actually

[@PixieBladeArt]

And don't come telling me "Time doesn't erase your actions" YES IT DOES Everyone on earth at the age of 20 is incredibly disconnected from who they were as a minor, SPECIALLY 14. I'm the same age as Kittydog, when I was 14 I was a dumbass emo furry teenager. Everyone grows and matures, so much so that the things that happened when you were a kid are completely meaningless today, because they're so far gone. Every single furry had cringe roleplays and deviancy when they were a young teen, specially in a community so infested with sexual adults influencing children. I'm telling you if we're gonna start cancelling each other for what we did when we were 14 every single furry on earth is cooked and I know you're not a saint so don't pretend you didn't do some shit. You guys need to stop believing your act that you're world class detective and moral police forces and live in the real world for a second, please, this furry generation is asinine.

[@VARNOXTHEGREAT]

@@PixieBladeArt eh, time Does NOT erase actions, all you can do is learn from the bad things you did, and try to fix yourself so you won't do it again. Kid or not, actions are not excusable.

[@PixieBladeArt]

@@VARNOXTHEGREAT It doesn't erase them but it completely erases any influence those actions have on everything. If you're at age 21 you never have anything in your mind when you were 14 weighing you down, it's insane, no, it's unbelievable, almost as if most people here haven't actually lived life and have a completely warped sense of reality due to their online lives taking over them.

[@VARNOXTHEGREAT]

@@PixieBladeArt Eh, does the influence leave? Not all cases. Some they stay for longer.

[@Ziz-The-Fox]

Personally I disagree, time can’t and will never erase your actions. You can’t do something, and the expect it to all go away with time. You have to put in the effort to change, you have to put in the effort to be a better person. Although kittydog did these things a long long time ago, that can still have long lasting effects on others. So she has changed, and she has put in the effort to fix her ways. Time cannot erase what’s already happened, but you can always strive for a better future.

[@burgeriguess]

although i don’t blame birdie for all of his actions i also think it’s unfair to blame kittydog for all of her own actions,,, both were children who were taken advantage of and had internet fame and drama way too young

[@D3ad_linez]

Yup

[@algiz_3696]

Literally. I think the main reason some of this drama gets so out of hand is because there are still underage children in this community. It’s just history repeating itself

[@NovikNikolovic]

Both were children, but only Kittydog matured. Jack didn't.

[@CottenVee]

You are actually apologizing, unlike Synnibear03 or Jack.

[@ponikoTV]

thats because she's not a groomer, just someone who did weird stuff but trying to be better

[@jouga]

God dude you were a KID. You were a vulnerable kid who was groomed into behaviours that hurt other people. They are allowed to be hurt and traumatised by that and not forgive you but you were a child and taking responsibility for your actions is all you can do now, which you have done and have been doing continuously over the past years. You yourself are owed more apologies by people who abused you than you're handing out to others now. I'm a firm believer that anyone still flaming you for mistakes you made at FOURTEEN is a kid themselves or their brain hasn't fully developed with age. Those not affected by your actions should stop for a second and picture the abused child they are pointing fingers at now.

[@doggycatta]

ik this is off topic but,,, I LOVE UR VIDEOS

[@jouga]

@@doggycatta haha thank you!

[@cruzdiabIo]

honestly this whole animation meme community is really fucked up

[@ponikoTV]

Yes it's really sad :c

[@lcm1102]

I’m so glad I left that community 4 years ago I couldn’t imagine how fcked up I will be now and days

[@ch0colatteshak3]

Word bro

[@QuestionedTurkey]

I really respect you for stepping up and owning up for your past mistakes. Everyone deserves a second chance at being a better person as long as they genuinely express remorse and actively take steps to improve, and i definitely see that from you. I hope everyone can come out on the other side of this situation better people for it and be more informed on cycles of abuse, and the psychological effects that being internet famous does to a child at such a crucial age

[@capncaramell]

Rehabilitation is so important and I've always admired you as a creator due to the fact that you've been able to be rehabilitated after being treated so horribly and becoming abusive yourself. I hope you know that your story has inspired at least one person to keep going and moving forward after experiencing something really similar to you. We are always growing, and you deserve to heal as much as anyone else

[@lynxesghost9918]

grooming (or, well, abuse) RUINS LIVES and birdie personally doesn’t forgive her, so why would you? She did get therapy and got help, but GROOMING (or, well, abuse) isn’t a thing you can “i got therapy and am healing❤” out. you CANT forgive kittydog if birdie, or any of her victims, haven’t. once an abuser, ALWAYS an abuser! it again ruins lives, and it’s obvious how much kittydog hurt birdie and still is somewhat affected. While kittydog was groomed (or, well, abuse) while being abused, it DOESN’T EXCUSE IT. an abuser in cocsa is often a victim, but they’re still the abuser.

[@capncaramell]

@@lynxesghost9918 I farted

[@dallsbeep69420]

@@lynxesghost9918 Pathetic excuse to hate KD, did you watch the video? Cope, Seethe and Grow up. Thanks!

[@Starlit_Onion]

​@@dallsbeep69420 I should not be laughing

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@capncaramellyou have no idea how sa victims feel about this (edit: I did not know this person suffered from SA, i didn’t fully process their comment, but I thought their other response was childish and they were downplaying the severity of what happened. I don’t think it is at all appropriate to make light of this situation by making jokes about it. A lot of innocent people and animals have been hurt by KD irreparably. As a victim of sexual abuse I can never forgive someone like her.)

[@Ziz-The-Fox]

I hope the animation meme doesn’t make any of those “nae groomer nae nae” animation memes

[@Mitzi-chan224]

Oh, people are gonna do that. I just know it lol

[@Ziz-The-Fox]

@@Mitzi-chan224yeah- 😭😭 it’s so foxi boxi core we can’t keep doing this man

[@LittleBee17377]

Oh god please not these ones

[@3MB3Rx134]

I want that song forever erased from my brain 😭

[@CaliiAnimations]

I saw something similar on tik tok already 🙁

[@liamthejuicylemon]

lets hope this dosent start drama and actually gets taken seriously

[@ElectricoGamez]

Probably no drama on KZbin, but on Twitter, by this point, it's 250% inevitable.

[@Misty_kittyyy]

@@ElectricoGamezTikTok straight up just dosent care about important details😭

[@DoctorKittuThe2nd]

Nah you already know this is gonna become a shitstorm

[@narwhalocean791]

i hope people have learned since the foxi boxi situation that its not ok to make 'groomer nae nae memes'

[@RadeonVega64]

@@DoctorKittuThe2nd yep

[@lizardd520]

this is generally better than most youtube apologies. underatted af, and she/they actaully admits to the wrong, and doesnt blame it on anyone or anything. mad respect towards her/them.

[@happyrawrdcore]

I hope the community doesn't completely ignore this video (as they usually do with apologies because they all value drama over rehabilitation).

[@mewmewminou]

being so fr this is actually the best apology ive seen on yt

[@wolflplushlnoice]

agreed

[@EelarsonVani]

FR!!!

[@vol_artx]

fr-!

[@nolongerinthisaccount]

no it isnt the mannii shows is better

[@Orphiccorvid]

NONE OF YALL BESIDES JACK OR ANYONE ELSE KITTY HAS HURT CAN ACCEPT THE APOLOGY ALL OF YALL ARE MEANINGLESS TO THIS. THIS IS NOT YOUR SITUATION TO FORGIVE.

[@Pepperpotater]

FR

[@Misscouchpotato-]

FR but most of these people are kids and don't really understand 😭 I hope people see this before they comment.

[@boinkysploink]

why are people even trying to forgive kittydog when they're not affected 💀 like that's just dumb

[@ASCII-MALWARE]

for reel... this comment section is fcking wild???? its full of children who shouldnt even be allowed on the internet at their age.

[@boinkysploink]

@yumphunk the cat man? i'm not quite sure

[@squeakydolphin9615]

People on the internet aren't exactly known for their capacity to forgive. If you do or say something dumb or bad as a known public figure, you'll never hear the end of it for years. You could do or say something bad when you're 14 or 15 and still get lip for it well into your late 20's. That's just how people on the internet are.

[@hboogy101]

and i wouldn't say it's exactly cause they *care*, but more that it's all they remember you for and they aren't all that invested in you in the first place

[@SinimonT4st]

THIS ia taking accountability

[@gay2062]

the fact u were actually mature enough to take accountability for ur actions is so crazy, meanwhile birdie did the same shit and honestly worse shit than just grooming children, and refuses to make a response video

[@VoidGacha61]

How can people forgive birdie for the things they did as a kid that was being abused but can’t do the same for you? I really could never hate you,kitty dog. I’m glad you’re taking accountability for your actions.

[@Misty_kittyyy]

Half the ppl don’t know what birdie did to begin with so that’s why. It’s rude on both side bc the ppl calling KD a freak are literally doing to same thing to birdie

[@hereforonereason]

@@Misty_kittyyywhat did he do?

[@Misty_kittyyy]

@@hereforonereason apparently birdie was going to date a 13 yr old at 16 bc they said they where mature enough. And this is in no way to antagonize birdie but people are forgiving them like nothing happened while coming to harass kittydog. They both apologized but I feel like people are just here for drama. I don’t support either creators really, but I hope they get better. (To clarify birdie said they where also manipulated during this time, but acknowledged how the behavior was gross too.)

[@hereforonereason]

@@Misty_kittyyy Oh crap.

[@Following.The.Extras]

​@@Misty_kittyyyhey I feel like you didn't pay attention to that part, that part was said as a way to comfort the person and such, and not the way everyone intends it to be taken as. This is the 2nd comment getting that part wrong heavily.

[@NosiyCat]

Remember if drama starts that's on the community. Jack has showed no interest on cancelling Kittydog or whatever, Like it's not Kittydog or Jack responsabilty if people start drama, they can't control it I hope both creators involved understand this and not fed into it It's not even drama... Someone both users were groomed. It's not high school drama is a real issue

[@ambroseghost]

EXACTLY!!!! Everyone in the comments section is getting upset at jack when jack literally said don’t go and harass KD. Jack has no control over his audiences actions.

[@goobert5485]

⁠​⁠@@ambroseghost but he *does* have control over his influence on his fans, and what information he divulged to his audience. He can say “dont go harass anyone” as much as he wants, but it’s a fact of the internet, as well as having an extremely parasocial fanbase, that people WILL disregard that, and use Jack’s video as an excuse to demean, insult and bully someone. It’s honestly pretty ignorant of him to make such a long-winded video full of misremembered events and incorrect information accusing a fairly popular creator on the same platform as him with a very similar audience, then turn around and claim anyone harassing KD is “not his responsibility.”

[@dia8183]

jack shouldn't have made this public then. he can say whatever pretty words he wants but this was absolutely a callout. period.

[@fudgysundaee]

@dia8183 it was like 10 minutes in a 1 hour and 50 minute video sit down

[@ambroseghost]

@@goobert5485 Birdie didn’t intend for KD to be harassed. He made it VERY clear not to go after KD. KD should be held accountable for her actions even if they happened years ago. Although I do think this situation should of been handled in private. I do think that birdie mishandled this situation by making it public. Unfortunately when things get made public the broken telephone effect happens where misinformation is spread like wild fire. I don’t think Jack is completely avoided from all responsibility because the handling of this situation was in poor taste but I do think it’s wrong to go againist someone’s wishes especially if they are the victim in a situation.

[@guminijn]

The real fault in this situation is on parents . These parents don't even know how to do parenting and not even aware that teens are having NSFW texting with others , but mostly parents just give internet to kids and don't care what content kids are consuming

[@NylaTheWolf]

To be fair Jack's parents are abusive

[@guminijn]

@@NylaTheWolf Jack who

[@mak1moee]

@@guminijn Birdie

[@towersket]

as an ex-proshipper myself i'd like to add my two cents saying, YES. PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. I was insanely young at the time. People would often look back at older time either fondly or disgusted. In my case(and often other ex-proshippers) it's in a sense of disgust or just plain discomfort. It can be such a genuinely harmful and scarring experience. If someone has had a problematic past that does not mean they are the same or haven't changed at all. Please never assume someone just stays the same and condones any past actions(especially if it was fucking years ago dude.) That does not mean you have to forgive and/or will forget something like that, but don't make harsh judgements unless someone has shown repeatedly to of not changed any of those behaviors or even attempt to be better.

[@Jynxxx5]

Isn’t pro shipping just “ship whatever you want in fiction as long as you don’t condone it irl?” 💀

[@towersket]

@@Jynxxx5 proshipping means you just accept any ships, problematic or not. doesn't mean they always ship the things mentioned. so generally yes. so it's not all bad but i was on worse spectrum. The more harmful part of it is the fact that as a child it affected me to a point i wasn't just a proshipper anymore. It can lead you down a rabbit hole in you're young.

[@towersket]

@@SunnyArts16 yeah, i know that feeling :(

[@carpstreamersafio]

as a fellow ex-proshipper i agree. change is absolutely possible when you put in the effort to change

[@treehasaplumpgyatt]

im glad you took accountability instead of keeping silent the whole entire time ❤

[@mercuryshusbandfr]

probably not the best place to say this but i love your pfp 🫶🫶

[@treehasaplumpgyatt]

@@mercuryshusbandfr ty!!

[@kittycutecat6789]

silver spoon speaking facts tbh

[@CASTLECALAMITY]

kittydog was silent about her grooming birdie for YEARS. even when she realized she messed up, she NEVER said anything. take this whole video with a grain of salt because she's only addressing it AFTER she got caught, even though she could've addressed it SEVERAL times.

[@BackToBrazil]

@@CASTLECALAMITY I thought she made a doc about it in Feb before the birdie vid?

[@V0idTwinks]

how can people understand that birdie was a child lashing out from beign groomed but not Kittydog? both have done horrendous shit as children and want to improve yet people want them to stay in the past forever? when they are both 25 are we still going to hold them accountable for something they did 10 years ago as abused chldren? when are they even allowed to be in the clear? when have they improved enough? when they die?

[@inotpurplegirlgachastudios06]

Ermmm acshewally birdie is 19 and kittydog si 20🤓👆

[@EelarsonVani]

@@inotpurplegirlgachastudios0621.

[@filip.da.avgeek123]

Im sorry for you😔 good job for speaking up and handling all that drama.

[@Tadpole_Plyrr2]

Thank you for speaking out about how those who are abused are more likely to abuse as well I was COCSAd and so I also did it because I thought it was love and normal, I was a child, you can’t compare children who don’t know any better with adults who do it for their own selfish reasons. This makes me feel seen.

[@pamonhacomanteiga]

This apology ages well since the synn make that shitty apologie for groming an tennanger and birdie being weird with some minor fanart and spending their ermegency money with market mlp plushies. I Really forgive kittydog she changed for the better

[@ponikoTV]

I used to think that "acidental gromimg" was real but after thinking twice and talking to my therapist about grooming I realize that this situation was never grooming and "acidental grooming" does not exist. Kittydog I'm sorry I assumed you were a groomer and I'm sorry that birdie accused you of grooming when you never had any bad intentions.

[@mywingsareyours]

I will say, pressuring someone into creating sexual stuff is actually considered grooming. You having grooming actions normalized to you as a result of being groomed yourself is how it perpetuates. As someone who was groomed myself as a kid, that is grooming behavior. It doesnt matter that you didnt realize you had power over him, a lot of people dont intentionally use their position acrively in grooming. Most of the time they are just trying to normalize sexual content to make it easier to get. Grooming isnt sitting down and going "i am going to groom this child lol", its just a description for certain behaviors. While it is done with intent, the intent is based around receiving stuff not around the concept of grooming. I think you'd do well to educate yourself more on what grooming actually looks like and what it can be, as i think a lot of people dont really understand all that it encompasses and understanding will help you come to terms and heal yourself. I hope you continue to get better. I dont think youre a bad person, but your behaviors were bad- but you were a kid. You have a lifetime left to make things right. Good luck.

[@kore_eon]

As a former viewer of KD and lucifer, I will be extremely honest. I wouldn't say I like this being viewed as drama, when its not drama at all. it's an unfortunate situation between 2 children at the time [who has been exposed to drama of their own [while being groomed/used and abused at the same time] and 'drama' is a gross, simplication word for something about child on child **sa**. These two have their idea of what happened based on how they felt and at the time - its understandable. in the end, its not us to make a decision on who's 'right' and who's 'wrong'. who to believe and who not too, bc this is something that happened between them - and at this moment I think the best course of action is to support these two who are now recovering adults from their horrible, misguided childhood that the internet placed on them, without a second thought how this would change them and their course of action in the future. I hope the best for both of you. and to enjoy the rest of your life looking forward and not looking back to the ppl who have failed you. I'm proud for both of you to address these controversies you've had and i hope to see improvement more on. Edit: I rlly want to retract some of my birdie statements due to seeing a tweet but im completely minding my business from now on

[@WhatTheFlup]

I genuinely hope both of you are able to find some form of healthy healing and are able to both improve and get needed help. You two were kids in shitty situations and are both victims from it. Both of you hurt people or made people uncomfortable, which sucks, but actions from 6-7 years ago from when you both were children shouldn't be the key definition of who you are for the rest of your lives. I hope you both get better. I can see you both you guys potentially misremembering things because of trauma, which is a common thing that happens- (but obviously nowadays you can really only go off of concrete screenshots or recordings from that time.) I honestly wish you both luck and growth from your childhoods and that adulthood for both of you guys is infinitely kinder. If there's anything else that comes from this, I hope it encourages everyone to have more empathy, especially towards kids participating in any sort of fandom/community.

[@DANNY657_]

ive watched since 2015-2016, and unfortunately like many others in this comment section i was exposed to nsfw and other disgusting and horrible things at such a young age which warped my views on love, sex, and relationships as a whole. i was 9 and i am now 18. your healing and motivation to comtinue going after everything has helped me immensely on my own healing journey. i have learned a lot from viewing this over the years and how well you take accountability for your own actions and understanding of it all, which has helped me realize my own as well. its not my place to forgive or to not, but i hope everyone affected heals overtime

[@sereneybeanie6733]

This video honestly touched my heart especially knowing I’ve been in a similar situation as you have and I’m still trying to actively recover and better myself from my past. I’m currently 18 now and have moved from my previous bad environment but I still have lots of learning and healing to do. To those reading this comment, always remember to be kind and have an open mind and an open heart towards others. Remember we are human and we wont always be perfect. If you have done lots wrong in your past, recognizing that it was wrong is a great first step. Don’t beat yourself up about it, but take accountability and learn from that experience, as well as apologizing and attempting to mend the damages and do what you think is right.

[@AnniChu]

I’m very glad you posted a video on your main about this. Thank you so much for pushing the message of rehabilitation for these people. People CAN grow and change, and harassing and shaming others can only push them away from that. We need to focus on uplifting victims and giving them the information and resources they need to heal.

[@youtubeneedstogitgud3512]

I am betting most of the comments contains these people - They actually know but It's not YOUR place to forgive KD, It's the victims. (Kindly respect if they DON'T forgive your precious creator) - They don't and just saying they will still watch KD regardless, meaning you don't comprehend what's even talked about. (Betting you guys aren't even 18.) - Making jokes out of it for some reason? (Get help. Just go.) - Questioning what's even going on. (Let me guess. Your new here? Welcome to the animation community, Everything is a trainwreck.)

[@BloodKandyx]

I can already see the snarky ass comments coming in now

[@youtubeneedstogitgud3512]

I wouldn't be surprised, I can just make a bingo card out of these things at this point

[@Dmitry_Volk.]

I'm kinda new here (maybe it's good that I only recently found this place, about a month ago), but I won’t ask questions because I think I roughly understand what’s going on (this is something new for me)

[@gem_b7798]

What community? There's no animation meme "community", it is more of a cult, animation memes should have just been animation memes with no community

[@youtubeneedstogitgud3512]

That checks off one part of my bingo card when reading this /hj

[@Kalashimi]

Animation meme community is actually wild, i miss the 2014-2018 era of it, less drama, more fun

[@iluvmymakiiroll]

I judged you wrong kittydog, Im sorry.

[@ponikoTV]

Same, tbh I feel bad thinking she was an awful person, but she was a just a kid.

[@rowan-priince1860]

How in the world did people watch that video and take “let’s go attack Kittydog!” from it. Jack was stating his experience, he acknowledged that it’s completely possible you changed for the better, and that he didn’t forgive you because he was still hurt by what happened. That’s absolutely valid to feel and in no way incited people to go after you. His case for grooming was not related to an age gap, but the power imbalance, there was no claim of pedophilla, calling you a pedo is absurd. He reiterated multiple times not to attack anyone he spoke about. People are absolutely braindead if they forgive him and not you and that’s coming from someone who thought his video was good (aside from leaving in misinfo). No one should be turning this into drama. It’s absolutely disgusting.

[@armymantv3972]

"How in the world did people watch that video and take “let’s go attack Kittydog!”", Maybe because he called her a groomer? Also if there was no significant age gap then there was no grooming. What power does a 14 year old on the internet even have anyway?? Birdie wanted to ruin this person otherwise they wouldn't have put that segment in the video.

[@TR0PHYK1ZZ3R]

Ok, I just have something to say. I know not many people are going to listen to this, but when kittydog did these things she was a child. Only in her early teens at 14 YEARS OLD. She was still a child when when she did all this things?? And let me just remind you that children learn things from how they are treated and how people act around them and kittydog was being gr00med at this exact time too. This is not an excuse. She shouldn’t have done what she did to birdie. But she was still hurt like this as well. AS A CHILD???? Children, again, repeat how they are treated and how others treat them!! It doesn’t matter if it’s on the internet or not, and this isn’t always the case. But people still get bad habits from things like this and do/say things they don’t mean to do and feel things they can’t control because of how bad these people affect them. And to all the adults that groomed kids. P3d0s. I just want to say FUCK YOU. This shit wouldn’t be happening if they just stayed locked up in cells where they could be now where near children. This isn’t excusing anyone’s actions and this isn’t an excuse what she did wasn’t ok but she knows that now and she’s an adult. AND IM NOT SAYING YOU NEED TO FIRGIVE HER, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND I DONT AGREE WITH WHAT SHE DID BUT PEOPLE CAN AFFECT KIDS ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE OLDER BECAUSE THEY ARE ROLE MODELS!! I AM SAYING THIS AS SOMEONE WHO IS EXPERIENCED. Sorry this is long ;D also late comment but I wanted to put this here so bad.. so that’s what I’m doing.

[@Livelaughpaperart]

I’m really sorry your feeling this way, I hope you feel better Kittydog. I’m glad you’re healing and becoming the better person. I look up to you

[@virusbugz]

this was a great apology. if people are able to forgive birdie and understand he was an abused child they should be able to forgive kittydog and understand she was an abused child. growth is definitely possible, things you do in your teenage/child years are done when your brain is still developing and cant as easily process the consequences of your actions, especially if you have a mental condition or have been traumatized or abused/groomed. you have your whole adult life to reconcile for the actions committed as a child/teen and eventually grow and change from those behaviors. its not the same as doing awful things as a fully grown adult with a fully developed brain. children's brains are not fully developed, they cannot as easily process their wrongdoings. it sometimes takes a while and a lot of convincing for them to realize how they've hurt others, but once they do they feel extreme remorse and desire to apologize. children and teens are dumb. let them learn from their mistakes

[@JPxboxman]

Finally a youtuber who doesn't blame the victim and takes accountability

[@vashmerlyn7989]

I believe in people healing, improving, and changing.

[@ComputerKisser08]

it was YEARS ago. You've both grown, it's time to move on honestly. I'm glad you took accountability

[@mtfdelta-5]

That’s really not how trauma works. they need to both seek out their own therapy to better themselves and heal from their own issues. That takes years and years. Everyone heals at their own rate.

[@goobert5485]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@mtfdelta-5the original comment isnt saying they shouldnt get therapy? Trauma is a real thing, and has tangible effects on our minds and bodies, but birdie labeling kd a groomer after several years of no contact and refusing to accept or forgive her multiple apologies is a little different than a trauma response. It seems intentionally unforgiving.

[@mtfdelta-5]

@@goobert5485 respectfully, if I was in that situation, I wouldn’t be particularly forgiving either. I’d understand why it happened. But I wouldn’t forgive them.

[@PixieBladeArt]

@@mtfdelta-5 Trauma is a product of being unable to let go, there's things that are very heavy and reasonably hard to let go, those people can live their whole lives wishing they could have peace. However if you can't get over some cringe ass furry roleplay by teenagers I think that there's an issue within.

[@goobert5485]

@@mtfdelta-5 and that’s completely fair! The difference is they’re both internet micro e-celebs with a pretty dedicated following, and everything upsetting between their relationship is being publicized to thousands of people. The label “groomer” has a lot of social consequence, and I think there’s a difference between someone being uncomfortable with talking to or forgiving someone, and actively calling them out. There’s accountability in making public accusations, you have to keep your facts in order, and keep your story clear and consistent. This is something birdie himself admits he isn’t capable of, with his BPD misremembering situations. I don’t think his come back video was unwarranted, or unnecessary, but there are consequences to posting it and following up with the information he’s given to keeping it accurate and completely transparent. That’s where I think his video is unforgiving, it isn’t providing a clear explanation of what happened between them. I have people in my life I wont forgive, and we haven’t talked in over 10 years. I dont mention them in my work life, on the internet or to strangers. I keep it to myself, my friends, family and my therapist. Thats the difference.

[@bettyjones3481]

All of the support in this comment section is amazing, kittydog, you deserve the love, Love you kittydog, love birdie, and love everyone else who was hurt by your past actions. You coming out about this is the most that anyone could do. Its the thing that some don't do. It's that thing that I love about your content and personality. You usually always address the issue, but people may not or never see that amazing trait in you. Stay safe Kd!

[@bettyjones3481]

My point still stands, while scrolling through these come I have only seen 3 negative ones out of the 200 something positive ones.

[@donaldmartel6562]

Very mature, more mature than any adults i know. Hope this is taken serious

[@what6298]

unfortunately these ignorant people wont listen. theyre literally insane. ive already seen people harassig and sh1tt1ng on her everywhere

[@falcon_arkaig]

I hope both you and Jack can heal from the trauma that happened. I'm the same age as Jack and I remember this whole situation when it was happening.

[@Ur_local_COPYKRISTALIAN]

I can hear "gr**mer nae nae" memes and angry twitter/tiktok mobs from a distance of the furture. Im really glad that you matured and improve kittydog, but I also feel bad for birdie, I hope both of you feel better especially birdie.

[@ewwwe]

Ive not watch the whole video, but THANKU for giving the proper definition of grooming, because its being completely overused in so many situations nowadays, and especially this one.

[@OnyxGothicKat]

All right I'm sorry for your situation but I'm just going to say this... Not sure how you going to hold someone accountable for their actions 7 years ago also when they were a minor- and I'm not saying it makes it right, however a one year and 7 months age gap ... If that's the case birdie might as well be held accountable for their actions of distributing NSFW are when they were a minor. There's things that just don't quite add up ... I feel like any age Gap this community considers to be grooming or pedophilia not considering the context whatsoever. I feel sorry for birdie and what they went through but they need to be more careful with how they use words in the consequences using such words

[@ooo-iz9dn]

i agree

[@goobert5485]

Facts

[@Aidselin]

Just want to tell everyone here that all that Birdie wants is for people to acknowledge that Kittydog's behavior has hurt him. That's all. This isn't about cancelling anyone. Birdie did shit things and so did Kittydog and other people but as long as everyone can grow from it and move past it. That's what matters.

[@goobert5485]

The first step to healing is admitting you‘ve hurt yourself or someone else-you *have* to take accountability. But you can’t ostracize and antagonize someone for genuinely trying to do good and be a better person. We ALL make mistakes, we’ve ALL said or done fucked up things, this is a fact of life. What defines our character is how we react, change and *grow*. Growth is the most important factor in all of this. I’m glad to have watched you grown and mature over the years, enough to finally handle all of this. You have my respect as a fellow artist, and human, as well as compassion and love. We don’t talk enough about the damage abuse does to people, and how victims can often act out their own abuse against others when they *don’t get the help they need*. Sending good vibes to you ❤

[@Aisha-Nyxn]

Even though I became a fan of kittydog in late 2022, I literally couldn't've summed this comment better!! ^-^

[@rexthehusky_]

Amazing comment

[@Numberoneanimaticsuperfan]

Im so sorry that you had to go through that. Nobody deserves to go through that. I hope you're better now! :C

[@ConfettieShippss]

I honestly don’t thing this was grooming. And I hate how people are acting like birdie didn’t do basically the same thing and other stuff

[@spkzfaith9680]

Did you not watch the video? Both KD and Birdie at a young age were influenced by many NSFW encounters. They were impressionable and because of it, have made bad decisions whilst harming others, but having taken accountability and swore they wouldn’t do it again.

[@TheBigJayAgenda]

Watch the video, lunatic

[@mypeeisred24]

@@spkzfaith9680they still did bad things.

[@LGLP]

This is the most mature acknowledgement towards such a past centered and problematic topic from you I could imagine. I especially like, that this video doesn't just clear the Birdie situation but also goes in depth about the reasoning, current state of mind and future tendencies about your problematic behavior. Very well done.👌

[@fiji.christianblue]

I'm proud of you Kittydog. Good job for handling all this in such an open and healthy way. I can see you becoming a good role model for others who have had similar life experiences. I hope for continued healing for you, birdie, and everyone else who was involved, or suffered similar experiences. 💙💙💙

[@milkrxllz]

stop using the age card everyone in the comments. kids make mistakes yes but dear god that isnt an excuse. kids are still able to take accountability, sure they may not understand what they did was wrong but, we can put on the path that helps them improve. grooming has many forms, so yes, kittydog did groom birdie. Theres many forms of grooming please look it up

[@sliceofmoka]

not grooming bro

[@Oakleyyz]

​@sliceofmoka this is grooming, it's CASA (i think is how it's said), kd didn't know the power difference BUT it was still there, Birdie was and is forever effected by her actions along with other people. We cannot decide whether to forgive Kd or not, as it's not our place, it's up to the victims

[@come_gatos_]

​​@@Oakleyyzguys.... grooming isn't = any bad relationship dynamic 😭 grooming has a definition that this situation DOES NOT FIT.

[@donnowme]

​@@come_gatos_ clearly u don't know what grooming is

[@x_n0morph]

@@come_gatos_In this context of the definition, yes it is very much a bad thing. There are 3 definitions of grooming. Ignoring the definition of grooming as in you’re grooming a dog: It’s the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity. Such as grooming your child or apprentice to enter a field of work or something of the source. However this context this does not apply. The other is manipulating and exploiting someone (in most cases but not exclusive to minors) who you are in a relationship with for sexual desires or personal gain. I am not well versed on the situation so I will not argue whether or not it is grooming or not, but you saying that grooming in a relationship context is not bad is ignorant.

[@cats-a-lot3609]

I used to hate kittydog with every fiber of my being but now I’ve changed my mind 😭 this is the best apology I’ve ever seen

[@3dghostinyourdream]

@@cats-a-lot3609 i was just to about to reply to one of ur old comments to clear things up😭😭glad youve took the time to understand

[@CatOnARadio]

We don’t have enough apologies where they just fr admit “yeah I did that, here’s some proof about it, I have no excuse, sorry man.”

[@cats-a-lot3609]

@@CatOnARadio real🔥

[@LittleMaple7269]

This really just made me happy. I hadnt know about COCSA until now and it reallt shed light on many things i went thru as a child. I hope this isnt weird to say, but i see myself in you. While our situations were vastly different, i find some solace in this video. Im really proud that you made this and acknowledged that Lucifer didnt have to forgive you. So many people wont do that. I dont know this is a ramble but. Man. This video just really hit me in the heart

[@KittyKat_official]

Well, this video made me realize that I should be more careful online. I kinda thank you for this.

[@neonwolfIsdumb]

Maybe start by not telling your age💀

[@SylvineKitsune]

@@neonwolfIsdumb even lying about your age is bad as well, hell it’s even worse than revealing your age (if you’re a minor) the best thing to do is hide your age and don’t tell anyone online until you reach adulthood 👍

[@neonwolfIsdumb]

@@SylvineKitsune Ik lmfao just telling them

[@CrystalDoggoIsMissing]

don’t tell ppl how old you are on the internet, that’s dangerous but good on you for trying to keep yourself safe!!

[@boinkysploink]

i'm honestly really proud of you for addressing your mistakes and apologizing for them. this is a huge first step. i hope that you use these mistakes as a lesson for the future and being a better person.

[@Chaoticz89]

So proud of you for taking the time to apologize kd, as long as you regret your past actions, apologize, and be a better person you have my full support

[@elsielf]

This video opened my eyes to the extensive abuse I experienced online as a minor. I truly appreciate you sharing your story while taking accountability AND providing resources that helped you begin to heal. Your transparency and the accessibility of these resources are invaluable, especially for those of us with similar experiences looking to start our healing journey. Thank you, Kittydog. I hope you don't forget that you are still a huge inspiration to lots of people out there, and that you are loved by many :)

[@priismo]

Please remember that Jack said he didnt want ANYONE going after K dog, or cancelling her, all he wanted was an apology and accountability.

[@Silly.goober_153]

THIS

[@xkero]

as someone who has experienced a lot of the stuff put in the pmvideo, i feel like you're genuinely trying to change. i don't get why people are siding with only one tho. birdie went thru about really similar situations. you were just a child who was put into bad crowds, and so was birdie. you two just did bad things as a result. but now you've both grown and changed as adults and i think that's something amazing about you both. and birdie's trauma is 100% valid. i'm just talking about the people who keep trying to side with one or the other for the same hypocritical reasons. but i'm actually very glad you're taking responsibility for your actions that you've done in the past. lots of people would just delete their channel or try acting pissy and justify their actions, but you didn't and that's a good thing tbh. i hope you can continue to heal as much as you possibly can and continue being a better person.

[@moonycat]

aw shit here we go again I'm glad that these situations are now being held by mature adults with the ability to take accountability for their actions

[@dawwyy]

True

[@thedraftingax5963]

Yeah, same.

[@FoxyMethoxyy]

Let's hope there isn't a September 2025 that brings this up. (September 2024 incident)

[@moonoftheblood]

This is probably the most mature video I've ever seen being made on a topic like this, congrats!

[@StarMan1051]

I've been following you for years now, I don't think i'll ever look at you differently. You're clearly showing that you've changed as a person, and i dont think anyone should try to bring you down. Especially over stuff that happened nearly 6-7 years ago. Keep being yourself, and dont let people bring you down.

[@Axelle_Armani]

Im glad you handled and addressed the situation. I'm also glad that you are trying to improve yourself and get help. 💙💜💖

[@alycatanimations732]

This has to be the best apology I've seen from someone. Thank you so much for taking accountability for what you did. Even tho what you did wasn't ok, I'm happy you recognized it and changed for the better. You content made me who I am today and I probably would have never thought about animating as my future career without you. You shaped my childhood and I'm so proud of you for changing as a person. ❤

[@ooo-iz9dn]

yoo chat where is this groomers yall keep talking ab because my dog lowkey matted fr

[@boondockspilled]

LMAOOOO ??

[@skrunkly191]

WHATTTT

[@trckshqt]

y’know i normally wouldn’t condone types of comments like these on a video like this, but this is genuinely hilarious 😭

[@H0suh_IzGae]

LMFAOOOO

[@S0DA5_can]

You were young and didn’t know better, it was a mistake that can’t be forgiven by some, thanks for taking your responsibility, I will be a forever a fan.

[@madisonp3109]

Kittydog, I seriously appreciate this video. Genuinely, I've never seen a content creator ever handle a situation with this much maturity and modesty. I had been a fan of yours since I was 14 (Almost 22 now!) and will admit I had been avoiding your content after hearing all these allegations. But you handled this situation so well and took accountability for absolutely everything. You absolutely have my respect, especially being a victim of abuse I understand how that can effect someone. I'm sorry you had to endure that as a child, and I'll be here supporting you as you grow and improve.

[@danneroni]

This was very nicely done. Not blamey or deflective, it was a great way to show that you care and are trying to get better. Proud of you for putting the work in to heal. I hope others are inspired to do the same.

[@rachealkennedy992]

This is my first time seeing the most smart, knowledgeable, apologize video i have ever seen.

[@rbesjsefafasdsad]

what really pisses me off is that people are acting as if you did the whole birdie grooming thing recently. yes what you did was immature and disgusting but you were 14. now you are 21. That was literally SEVEN YEARS AGO, and as for other dramas, it's been years since those aswell. people improve and change, and if you still don't wanna support people even after their change? then dont do it, simply just dont watch them or whatever instead of HARASSING THEM OVER IT. Especially the people on Twitter bro those replies actually make me feel bad it's all just an immature shithole. they just completely ignore the fact you are NOT covering up your actions or denying them, but instead taking responsibility for them, explaining them, and saying how you've improved as a person.

[@JaxPerson]

There needs to be more cohesive and effective laws for protecting children online because holy shit

[@nickyavila2132]

One thing that i hate on my country (Brazil) is that the age of consent is 14, so by the law someone 18 years old could have relationships with a 14 old but the good thing is that socially we don't accept this type of age gap

[@kelkinn]

why are half the comments posted less than 10 minutes ago people forgiving kd when its not even their apology to accept and its obvious they didnt watch the video 💀💀 if ur gonna dick ride at least watch the video first

[@doggycatta]

You don't know if they watched the video first before commenting

[@kelkinn]

@@doggycatta i mean if they commented only a few minutes after the video was uploaded they didn't watch it considering it's half an hour long

[@goobert5485]

Most of the video is restating information that’s been publicly available for years now

[@ONIONPANIKC]

WE WERENT AFFECTED I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE SAY THAT *THEY* "FORGIVE KD"

[@gem_b7798]

She doesn't even have a d!ck, and from what i read most of the comments are people acknowledging how long ago it was and acknowledging that she doesn't do that anymore, not comments like "UMG WE FORGIVES YOOOOUUU !!1!1!1"

[@VARNOXTHEGREAT]

I already know people ain't gonna take this seriously, is it that hard to stop making jokes for a second?. (Edit): I'm not trolling I'm being genuine, this isn't funny it's a serious video. Just stop with the jokes and brain rot for 5 minutes??

[@Corgi-is_a_dumb_loser]

The video hasn't even been out long enough to write a good comment and these mofos already writing dumb shit 😭😭

[@VARNOXTHEGREAT]

@@Corgi-is_a_dumb_loser On god 💀 comment below mine? "WE BEATING THE ALLEGATIONS WITH THIS ONE" like please shut up💀

[@sonjabounce]

no thsi shit is funny

[@Corgi-is_a_dumb_loser]

​@@VARNOXTHEGREATAND THE PEOPLE COMMENTING HOW THEY ARE FORGIVING HER?? like the only person that can accept this is birdie😭😭 the way kittydog words this seems like she wants her audience to forgive her but only birdie was affected her 💀💀 This should've been resolved privately but anything birdie related is "birdie drama 🤓🤓" that he was to refute and they're both big youtubers so I GUESS NOT LMAO

[@VARNOXTHEGREAT]

@@Corgi-is_a_dumb_loser Like, I'm flabbergasted, I am puzzled, I am bedazzled rn. The only person who can forgive or not forgive is Birdie/the victim. Like what are-

[@ambroseghost]

After watching this I have changed my mind a bit. This is why it’s good to listen to both sides. I feel like this situation has a lot of gray areas for me to actually take sides. So I’m remaining neutral on this topic. Although Birdie does have every right to be upset at KD because KD still ab//sed him and even she has admitted she ab//sed him. I’m in the middle about the grooming claims because the label grooming itself is vague “the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity” in some cases grooming is very obvious (like when there is a big age gap) in other cases it isn’t obvious like in a case of COCSA. Having said this abuse is still abuse weither it was intentional or not.

[@the_nedoumok]

OH GOD you're so god damn right about this situation ain't being all black and white + an importance of listening to both sides. I feel like a lot of people have a luck of doing so

[@ambroseghost]

@@the_nedoumok This situation is very confusing to me mostly why I don’t want to take sides but either way I think both birdie and KD have grown and improved a lot from their pasts. Making mistakes is a part of learning but I do think it was reasonable that KD was held accountable for her actions.

[@the_nedoumok]

@@ambroseghost it's not really our deal to forgive anyone in this situation but we must support their growth and respect their wishes. That's the best thing we could do

[@ambroseghost]

@@the_nedoumok Yep only the victims can give forgiveness.

[@come_gatos_]

This situation overall is just so unfortunate. The animation meme community being mostly a kid's hobby doesn't help, because often times people witchhunting kids acting out from trauma are also kids - and the few irresponsible adults that do cover these kids only validate the harassment in other's minds. Kids do not understand the nuances of dealing with mental illness and abuse. I feel like everyone was in the wrong in this situation. Yeah the way KD acted was gross, but let's not ignore all the things Birdie did as well. This is not to harass Birdie but to acknowledge that BOTH OF THEM where young kids dealing with issues. KD was 14 - that is not nearly old enough to handle a situation like that well. Both have obviously grown from their behavior and acknowledged their actions yet keep getting harassed by kids that do not understand these topics well enough to even participate in the discussion of them. I wish this community would improve, but it's not uncommon for me to get recommend new callout posts and harassment campaigns on new children. If you are a child in this community, do not trust the internet with your emotions - most people do not have good intentions. And if you see someone acting out, simply block and move on - harassment helps no one.

[@mypeeisred24]

bro thought he’d get pinned

[@BlissAnimations]

This is a fantastic response! Thank you for addressing this while providing evidence.

[@InvestigatorStudios]

why are people writing comments already? its been 10 minutes.

[@SpecFenn]

THATS WHAT I’M SAYING, people are already going “amazing video, I feel for you” but the video hasn’t even been published long enough for them to watch even HALF.

[@bobbbunz6379]

Good on you for owning up and making a video like this where you dont remove blame from yourself but also address that you were both doing very badly from your traumas. Good on you for getting help and improving yourself. I grew up with you and birdie and many others in the animation meme community. Im glad to see you both getting some closure from the hurt from the past. I wish the best for yalls independant futures as a fellow trauma survivor

[@OfficialCyberNE0]

All I will say is you definitely showed you wanted to improve & change as a person, & as a childhood fan of your content, I'm proud of you for doing that. It's not my place to say much nor choose sides or forgive but just try to take it easy if you're stressed about any of this. Your mental health is important too.

[@IsabellaPlayzRoblox299]

It’s ok kitty dog❤ you never meant any harm